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00:01:31 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489F217.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B820EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 00:17:03 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:17:19 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17:38 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 00:20:02 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [] 00:25:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12045 /trunk/src/newgrf_spritegroup.cpp: -Feature-ette(newGRF): Add support for var 12, Variational Action 2 00:25:47 <Gonozal_VIII> featurette?^^ 00:27:09 <Belugas> small feature, not really a big thing... 00:27:33 <Belugas> nothing to be claimed high and strong 00:28:02 <Gonozal_VIII> Game mode, 0 in title screen, 1 in game and 2 in editor <-- that? 00:28:48 <Belugas> yup 00:29:07 * Belugas is impressed, a user who knows about the inner parts of grf... 00:29:48 <Gonozal_VIII> so one could disable industry placement rules in the editor with that if one wants to? 00:29:53 <glx> or a user who knows where to look in docs 00:30:09 *** De_ghosty [~s@cpe0050ba8caf2c-cm0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:48 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B820EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:31:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:33:01 <Belugas> Gonozal_VIII, it's up to the writer to decide what to do with it, but indeed, it can be one of the possibilities 00:33:23 <Belugas> glx has a point :) 00:33:38 <Gonozal_VIII> of course i didn't know that without looking 00:34:02 *** De_ghosty [~s@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 00:34:50 <Gonozal_VIII> does patch support that too? 00:35:06 <Belugas> yes 00:37:26 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7A1BC.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:30 <Wolf01> 'night 00:42:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host190-232-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:45:06 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78.107.164.53] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:45:07 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 00:47:06 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:04 <Gonozal_VIII> action 2s can choose between action as based on all kinds of stuff... is there a way to choose between action as the same way? not just the static way with 7 or 9? 00:48:35 <Gonozal_VIII> some randomified grass and such :-) 00:49:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DC6D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:17 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:47 *** TX [~pIRCuser6@hard-soft--121.colo2.kv.wnet.ua] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59:37 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 01:00:02 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 01:01:12 *** afshdgsdfg [~Gonozal_V@N837P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 01:01:12 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest231 01:01:12 *** Guest231 is now known as Guest232 01:01:13 *** afshdgsdfg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 01:07:13 *** Guest232 [~Gonozal_V@N837P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:09:30 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:16:18 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB89C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:25:51 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r12046 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Helipad now in NewGRF airport files, rather than reference into openttdw.grf. 01:34:01 <Gonozal_VIII> wow, newgrf ports update 01:34:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r12047 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (seaplaneport.grf sprites/seaplaneport.pcx): [NewGRF_ports] -Change: new tarmac interior for seaplaneport depot. Graphic from skidd13. 01:35:02 <Gonozal_VIII> two of them :-) 01:35:05 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B757EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:18 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:31 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41:29 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76D2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:44:16 <Gonozal_VIII> Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want. 01:44:59 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:48:09 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 01:50:54 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:50:54 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:09 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:54:48 <DaleStan> xkcd is good. 01:54:57 <Gonozal_VIII> yep :D 01:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> and what's the emacs command to that? 02:21:19 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:1f07:2df:240:f4ff:fe52:a74e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:41:59 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [Quit: *ruffles JTanczos's hair and falls asleep*] 02:50:33 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50:34 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:37:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r12048 /trunk/src/ (bridge.h tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp): -Cleanup: Move some strings in the original bridge array, adjust documentation a bit. 03:38:10 *** Tefad 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divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:11:57 <redmonkey> ok 10:12:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host190-232-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:12:52 <Wolf01> hello 10:17:08 <redmonkey> Gekz: what debug level would you recommand? 10:18:37 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 10:18:47 <LordAzamath> hello 10:18:50 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 10:18:50 <LordAzamath> !logs 10:18:59 <Gekz> redmonkey: well, the highest 10:19:15 <Gekz> but that's personal preference 10:19:24 <Gekz> you know a crash is happening, so detail is dire 10:21:27 <LordAzamath> has anyone already played with this too? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310&start=760#p661834 10:21:41 <LordAzamath> if is, I'd like to get some comments :D 10:23:09 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:25:26 <Rubidium> redmonkey: what about testing the yesterday's nightly and seeing whether it happens there too? 10:28:23 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 10:29:18 <redmonkey> Rubidium: i'd have to run it a few days.. it doesn't happy frequently.. and unfortunately i don't have the time for intensive testing 10:30:07 <Rubidium> do you play with AIs? 10:30:15 <redmonkey> yes 10:30:33 <Rubidium> then it is most likely a known (and fixed) bug 10:33:10 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:34:56 <LordAzamath> is there any good reason for this? http://www.hot.ee/madisaasmae/tree.png ? 10:35:06 <LordAzamath> why are they.. in a pattern 10:35:17 <LordAzamath> I was just planting trees in tropic 10:35:39 <LordAzamath> funny thing is that trees shouldn't be on desert anyways.. 10:43:27 <guru3> well 10:43:29 <guru3> that's different 10:46:34 <LordAzamath> bye all 10:46:36 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left 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[Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:44:11 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:46:25 <Amis> is there a reason why i cant press the Build at the Many random industries in the map editor? i could before 11:47:16 <Wolf01> no cities? 11:47:29 <Amis> have cities 11:48:32 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-157-233.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 11:48:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 11:48:51 <Amis> i can build the industries manually but i want a lot... 11:49:40 <SmatZ> Amis: works for me... select Many random industries, then press Build 11:49:56 <Amis> but the Build button is unavaliable 11:51:08 <Amis> http://amis.weasy.net/screenshot.png 11:51:33 <Amis> uhh wait... something wrong with the screenshot 11:51:53 <Gekz> its a photo of you. 11:51:57 <SmatZ> Amis: it is unavailable only when you select Many arndom industries? 11:52:06 <Amis> yea 11:52:15 <SmatZ> I see the screenshot, not the photo :( 11:52:47 <Amis> what photo of me? 11:53:45 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-78.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:53:47 <Amis> may i did something wrong in the patch configuration? 11:53:59 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 11:55:11 <Amis> i reopened but still nothing... 11:55:57 <SmatZ> mmm the code has one bug 11:55:57 <Amis> uhm... can it be a problem i have a town with 247.000? 11:56:08 <SmatZ> but it shouldn't cause this 11:57:06 <SmatZ> hmm it could 11:57:35 *** Reven552 [~ronny@239.81-167-85.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:45 <Reven552> hello 11:58:06 <Reven552> anyone here? 11:58:18 <Reven552> i have a question about the game 11:58:30 <Reven552> allo 11:59:25 <Amis> hello 11:59:28 <Reven552> hi 11:59:33 <Reven552> hows it going? 11:59:54 <Reven552> are you skilled at the game, i have a question? 12:00:09 <Amis> maybe i can answer but others are listening too :) 12:00:17 <Reven552> ok, good 12:00:44 <Reven552> im bothered by the tall building small house ratio in the game... 12:01:15 <Reven552> ... i find it horribly unrealistiv that when a city grows a bit its almost soley tall buildings present... 12:01:31 <Reven552> ... and almost no housing... 12:01:41 <Reven552> ... like residential houses and such... 12:02:21 <Reven552> is there anyway to influence taht 12:02:38 <Amis> well i think only coding... what i cant do 12:02:44 <Reven552> right 12:02:56 <Reven552> ok, tx 12:03:01 <Amis> SmatZ: i deleted the town but it still do not work, i hate it... 12:03:15 <Amis> i have to cry... 12:03:41 *** Reven552 [~ronny@239.81-167-85.customer.lyse.net] has quit [] 12:05:51 *** Zoeff [Zoeff@a62-251-65-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 12:05:51 *** Zoeff [Zoeff@a62-251-65-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:09:29 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm132.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 12:15:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-157-62.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:17:14 *** ThePizzaKing 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choose 12:31:16 <Reven552> k, tx a million :) 12:31:19 <SmatZ> np 12:34:15 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-11-196.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:50 <Reven552> anyone know how to add buildings as supposed to replace them? 12:41:09 <Reven552> *opposed to 12:41:32 <Reven552> add more variation so to speak 12:43:05 <Alberth> write a new newhouses.grf file 12:44:32 <Alberth> Anybody can give some info on FS#1029? (http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1029); it seems to be the problem that Zoeff yesterday reported here 12:45:02 <Alberth> in particular, what's the next step? 12:45:40 <Alberth> i briefly looked at the patch, and I am not quite sure its ok. It also doesn't merge with r12030 atm 12:45:45 <Reven552> what do you mean write a newhouses grf file? 12:46:26 <Alberth> the GRF file is designed to replace existing houses. If you don't want that, you have to write a new version of it 12:47:55 <Reven552> right 12:48:19 <Alberth> Sorry, issue is about auto-renew of trains (but it seems to extend to vehicles in general) 12:48:31 <Reven552> i just read on several sites taht a file like taht has already been made 12:49:06 <Reven552> called newhouses.grf and needs to be switched"ON" 12:49:12 <Reven552> cant find it though 12:49:24 <Reven552> might have misunderstood the whole thing 12:49:42 <SmatZ> Reven552: those sites were about TTDPatch 12:49:48 <Alberth> it's on isn't? the houses were replaced 12:51:19 <Alberth> In openTTD, it is usually enough to make the GRF file available 12:51:33 <Reven552> ah, ok 12:51:41 <Reven552> ill try that then, tx again 12:52:27 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:52:39 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CF73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:06 <Amis> this 3x3 town growing can do any size lol... 12:56:02 <Amis> is there any record in town size? 12:57:53 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489F217.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:41 *** joey_ [~joey@xdsl-87-78-93-212.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 13:05:43 <joey_> Hey there 13:05:49 <Amis> hi 13:05:51 *** joey_ is now known as DJGummikuh 13:05:56 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:59 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B820EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:04 <DJGummikuh> hehe I like it how easy your source is compileable 13:06:11 <DJGummikuh> just started a r12049 dedicated ^^ 13:06:24 <SmatZ> :) 13:06:31 <DJGummikuh> but I wanted to ask for the names the different landscapes have in the config file 13:06:34 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:06:38 <DJGummikuh> right now it's set to desert but I would like to change that 13:06:52 <DJGummikuh> it's been ages since I last configured my other running server 13:09:18 <DJGummikuh> hmm you don't talk much I take :) 13:10:11 <SmatZ> DJGummikuh: valid values are temperate arctic tropic toyland 13:13:06 <DJGummikuh> and desert? 13:13:15 <DJGummikuh> because right now it runs as "desert" and gives me the desert theme 13:13:30 <SmatZ> it is the old name 13:13:35 <DJGummikuh> ah ok they were renamed? 13:13:42 <SmatZ> it reads it and converts to new name 13:13:44 <SmatZ> yes 13:14:11 <SmatZ> old values: normal hilly desert candy 13:15:55 <yorick> I'm having a problem with the autopilot 13:16:11 <yorick> it says its connected to the IRC server, but I can't find it 13:16:22 <SmatZ> Brianetta is the author of autopilot (as far as I know) 13:16:47 <yorick> @seen Brianetta 13:16:47 <DorpsGek> yorick: Brianetta was last seen in #openttd 4 days, 0 hours, 22 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Brianetta> Simply acknowledging your presence (: 13:17:12 <yorick> its just repeating "Connected to IRC Server" 13:17:24 <hylje> @seen DorpsGek 13:17:24 <DorpsGek> hylje: I have not seen DorpsGek. 13:19:29 <SmatZ> maybe Ammlller would know... or other people from #openttdcoop 13:20:02 <Ammlller> ? 13:20:16 <yorick> I'm having some trouble with the autopilot 13:20:45 <yorick> it is repeating "Connected to IRC server" 13:20:48 <Ammlller> which IRC server? 13:20:59 <yorick> irc.oftc.net #autopilot 13:21:32 <Ammlller> well, that should work, some other servers aren't possible, like quakenet or euirc 13:21:43 <yorick> yes, but it doesn't work 13:21:47 <yorick> it doesn't appear 13:22:01 <yorick> and is repeating the same thing 13:26:56 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:29:00 <Alberth> how do you load cargo into a ship from a canal? 13:30:39 <glx> same as sea 13:30:42 <Alberth> never mind, i found it 13:30:45 <glx> build a dock 13:31:05 <Alberth> yeh, but I didn't have a ramp next to the canal 13:33:30 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:33:42 <Alberth> glx: can you give some info how to proceed with FS#1029? (lack of autorenew) 13:34:09 *** yorick is now known as Yorick-AFK 13:38:22 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:30 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:40:52 <DJGummikuh> what exactly triggers the notification that a company is about to become bankrupt? 13:41:30 <DJGummikuh> I just got that message in the midst of june 13:41:48 <SmatZ> DJGummikuh: negative bank account 13:41:53 <DJGummikuh> for what period of time? 13:42:03 <DJGummikuh> because I'm negative all the time ^^ 13:42:15 <Amis> i think its the amount of money you DONT have 13:42:39 <SmatZ> if you are in red for 2 quarters, you get the first warning 13:42:50 <SmatZ> after 4 quarters, you go bankrupt 13:42:51 <DJGummikuh> ah ok 13:43:02 <DJGummikuh> but if I get positive again, the counter will be reset right? 13:43:07 <SmatZ> yes 13:43:19 <DJGummikuh> all right 13:43:28 <DJGummikuh> I paid all my money for terraforming and installed one train that hauls coal 13:43:30 <SmatZ> you have to be in positive when the check is done 13:43:34 <DJGummikuh> but it takes about a year to travel ^^ 13:43:42 <DJGummikuh> when is the check? 13:43:46 <Amis> tell me somebody... what the Other means in the finaces? and whats that money it take each month? 13:44:17 <DJGummikuh> the money you pay the bank to avoid paying money to the country 13:44:21 <SmatZ> every month 13:44:24 <SmatZ> I think 13:44:43 <Amis> huh? 13:45:05 <SmatZ> no, every quarter 13:45:38 <Amis> i made a map what my PC cant handle :D 13:45:42 <Amis> lol 13:45:45 <SmatZ> :-P 13:46:08 <Amis> it has 2x 600.000+ town with airports... 13:46:21 *** Reven552 [~ronny@239.81-167-85.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:22 <Amis> oh wait 13:46:33 <Amis> the other town is 1100.000 13:46:57 <Amis> its as big as the capital city of hungary :D 13:47:37 *** Yorick-AFK is now known as Yorick 13:47:47 <Amis> i see the circles! i see the structure of a town 13:47:53 <SmatZ> yeah 13:49:01 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd090.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 13:49:09 <Amis> openttd taking 50% cpu xD from the 3800Mhz 13:50:22 <Amis> is there any 64bit OpenTTD? :) 13:50:53 <Prof_Frink> alan@frinkpad:~$ file `which openttd` 13:50:53 <Prof_Frink> /usr/games/openttd: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped 13:51:22 <Amis> huh? 13:51:31 <Prof_Frink> "yes." 13:51:44 <Amis> and all or aspecial one? 13:51:59 <Yorick> can I log the irc traffic recieved by the autopilot in some way? 13:52:42 <DJGummikuh> damn I have not enough money :((( 13:52:55 <DJGummikuh> I don't really get a good start off... my initial track was too expensive 13:54:30 <DJGummikuh> wtf are Transfer Credits? 13:55:58 <Alberth> credits you get when you 'transfer' rather than 'unload' 13:56:26 <DJGummikuh> ah 13:56:29 <Alberth> (to a station where another vehicle picks it up and transports it further) 13:56:35 <SmatZ> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Feeder_service 13:56:49 <DJGummikuh> Am I getting this right that I now can drop coal at a station taht also transports coal and it doesn't mix up no longer? 13:57:11 <DJGummikuh> like it did before? 13:57:23 <Alberth> what do you mean 'mix up'? 13:57:31 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:07 <Alberth> SmatZ: no pictures! :) 13:58:08 <DJGummikuh> well in older versions of openttd when you had stations A B C and A and B offered Coal and C was the plant, when you transfered coal from A to B for the second train to continue it to C along with the coal produced at B, it would mess up the calculation 13:58:34 <Alberth> ah, 'yes' 13:58:48 <DJGummikuh> COOL :) 13:59:04 <Alberth> although it is 'virtual' money, computed afterwards afaik 13:59:22 <DJGummikuh> well as long as it calcualtes correctly in the end it's fine for me :) 13:59:59 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 14:00:03 *** Nesta [~none@p54ADE905.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:06 <Nesta> Hello 14:01:08 <DJGummikuh> hello 14:01:28 <DJGummikuh> hehe still no other r12049 server around ^^ 14:01:29 <Nesta> Is the linux version to use as a server only? 14:01:33 <DJGummikuh> Nesta: no 14:01:38 <DJGummikuh> I'm running linux version right now 14:01:42 <Amis> i remember when i had a train bringing iron ore from far than it unloaded all at a station from where trucks brang it to the factory, i could not understand why one of the 40 trucks have -0.00 income 14:01:57 <DJGummikuh> Amis: yes that was what I meant :) 14:02:32 <Nesta> Is it possible to set up OpenTTD for that purpose? 14:02:44 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@110-016-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 14:02:55 <Nesta> Was going to load it on my web server to run all the time 14:02:57 <DJGummikuh> Nesta: yes 14:03:01 <DJGummikuh> openttd -D 14:03:02 <Rubidium> DJGummikuh: why isn't the linux version able to use as a server only? 14:03:05 <DJGummikuh> I'm doing that one as well :) 14:03:15 <DJGummikuh> Rubidium: hmm perhaps I missunderstood him 14:03:24 <DJGummikuh> I thought he asked if the linux version is limited to server use only 14:03:32 <DJGummikuh> so since I'm running it as both right now, I answered no :) 14:04:44 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 14:05:01 <Nesta> So, as per the FAQ, I just install OpenTDD on my web server, copy the required files... and I assume edit a file some where to set game name, etc... and run server? 14:05:04 <DJGummikuh> Nesta it's quite easy to set up a dedicated under linux... I'm running two in parallel right now.. one 0.5.3 and one r12049 14:05:09 <DJGummikuh> Nesta: yes 14:05:10 <Yorick> is there any way to let the autopilot connect to quakenet? 14:05:16 <DJGummikuh> you need to edit the openttd.cfg 14:05:22 <Nesta> Ok 14:05:29 <DJGummikuh> then you're good to go by typing ./openttd -D in the directory where the executable lies 14:05:36 <Nesta> Thanks DJ, I will get to work on this right now 14:05:36 <DJGummikuh> assuming you have shell access by ssh or whatever 14:05:41 <DJGummikuh> yw :) 14:06:00 <Nesta> Oh yea I do.. run TeamSpeak through it =) 14:06:19 <DJGummikuh> through ssh ? 14:06:33 <DJGummikuh> btw someone didn't answer the question here for what I pay money to "Other" each month 14:06:36 <DJGummikuh> what is it? 14:06:54 <glx> loan interrest and other things 14:06:59 <Nesta> Well upload files, run install and TS through shell.... 14:07:07 <DJGummikuh> er... there is a seperate line "Loan Interest" ? 14:07:11 <DJGummikuh> Nesta: ah 14:07:41 <Amis> you pay 500-1000 (depending on inflation) a year 14:07:46 <Amis> euro 14:07:47 <Nesta> Pretty sure this would work the same way.... 14:07:58 <DJGummikuh> Amis: yeah but for what.. currently I pay 624 per year 14:08:07 <Amis> thats what i want to know too 14:08:07 <DJGummikuh> damn and IM nearly bankrupt again >.< 14:08:23 <DJGummikuh> but at least I afforded a second train ^^ 14:08:32 <Prof_Frink> DJGummikuh: No-one really knows. 14:08:33 <Alberth> Amis: nah, I have no inflation, and still pay 300/year 14:08:43 <DJGummikuh> interesting 14:08:46 <Prof_Frink> It was there in TTO 14:08:46 <glx> loan repayed? 14:08:50 <Alberth> it's rent for your HQ :) 14:08:51 <Amis> then 200-1000 14:09:01 <DJGummikuh> hmm I wonder why noone joins on my r12049 server 14:09:06 <DJGummikuh> Alberth: rofl 14:09:12 <Amis> well im thinking about.. you pay that cuz you have a bank account? :D 14:09:13 <Prof_Frink> LA actions also get listed there. 14:09:16 <DJGummikuh> I'll destryo it in an instance :) 14:09:51 <Alberth> and new statues 14:10:11 <DJGummikuh> ah yeah... shiny statues :D 14:10:40 <DJGummikuh> hmm I love the new status information about how full a train ist 14:10:41 <DJGummikuh> -t 14:10:49 <Amis> what cause a town to shrink? 14:10:56 <DJGummikuh> not enough transport 14:11:07 <DJGummikuh> rats in the streets :) 14:11:31 <DJGummikuh> ah and yet another question 14:11:39 <Amis> but i changed nothing in the last 10 years 14:11:42 <DJGummikuh> when will the arbitrary limit of 8 companies be removed? :) 14:11:54 <DJGummikuh> or isn't it arbitrary 14:12:03 <Prof_Frink> DJGummikuh: "When it is." 14:12:19 <DJGummikuh> ah ^^ 14:12:33 <DJGummikuh> what is it in for anyways? is there any reason for it? 14:12:48 <DJGummikuh> I'm just curious 14:12:56 <Amis> noooo... my town will dieeee... 14:13:44 <Prof_Frink> DJGummikuh: Hysterical Raisins again 14:14:03 <DJGummikuh> wtf 14:14:10 <DJGummikuh> something is not working right here 14:14:13 <DJGummikuh> I have two coal trains 14:14:20 <DJGummikuh> one has reached 100% and the other came to 13 or so 14:14:25 <DJGummikuh> but the 100% train wouldn't leave 14:14:26 <DJGummikuh> ??! 14:14:44 <Alberth> timetable enabled? 14:14:45 <glx> theorically it should be possible to have 16 companies, but a lot of things have to be checked 14:14:49 <DJGummikuh> hmm yeah 14:15:10 <DJGummikuh> glx: hmm where does that limit come from then? 14:15:45 <glx> map array and other things 14:16:00 <DJGummikuh> ah 14:16:11 <DJGummikuh> Amis: which landscape you play? 14:16:15 <glx> some bitfield too 14:18:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Amis> is there a reason why i cant press the Build at the Many random industries in the map editor? i could before <- maybe you set industries to none in the difficulty options? 14:19:44 <DJGummikuh> args 14:19:51 <DJGummikuh> the fill counter is right behind the sign of the station >.< 14:20:48 <SmatZ> http://88.146.45.107/ttd/big_city.png scary, isn't it 14:21:35 <DJGummikuh> wtf 14:21:38 <SmatZ> it seems to prefer NE and NW directions to grow 14:21:45 <DJGummikuh> whats that on the upper half of the map? 14:21:56 <SmatZ> the city 14:22:03 <DJGummikuh> looking scary 14:22:27 <SmatZ> yeah :-x 14:22:29 <DJGummikuh> ^^ 14:22:38 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:56 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-0-160.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26:04 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:30 <Nesta> DJGummikuh, Still around? 14:32:56 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:05 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 14:33:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 14:34:17 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.182] has joined #openttd 14:34:41 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-180-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:35:53 <DJGummikuh> Nesta: yes 14:35:59 <DJGummikuh> can't I replace vehicles no more? 14:36:06 <DJGummikuh> I want to renew the engines on my trains but I don't know how 14:36:12 <DJGummikuh> the interface changed 14:36:55 <Alberth> with the replace-vehicles GUI you mean? 14:37:40 <Alberth> if yes, it's at the bottom of the train overview window 14:39:02 <Alberth> I don't seem to get 'road vehicle out of date, needs replacement' messages 14:39:19 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:36 <DJGummikuh> Alberth: I don't see it 14:39:41 <DJGummikuh> I have this grouping interface 14:39:55 <DJGummikuh> and then I have Available Trains | Manage list | and this arrow down and a red an da green flag 14:40:01 <Alberth> click 'manage list' 14:40:03 <DJGummikuh> I want to replace my old vehicles :( 14:40:10 <DJGummikuh> WTF 14:40:13 <DJGummikuh> I didn't see that one 14:40:15 * DJGummikuh hits himself 14:42:37 <Yorick> I'm trying to use the base costs mod, but whatever parameters I fill in, it doesn't do anything :( 14:47:47 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:48:11 <Yorick> hmm...the autopilot is still not working 14:48:32 <Yorick> the normal part of it works, but it says it's connected to IRC and I can't find it 14:53:12 <UnderBuilder> one question... what grfs of the opengfx proyect work in 0.5.3? 14:53:35 <Sacro> danger will robinson! 14:57:01 <Yorick> there seems to be a problem with the $::irc join command 14:58:15 <glx> UnderBuilder: they should all work (most of them are just action A grfs) 14:58:28 <UnderBuilder> even the industries replacements? 14:58:53 <glx> if they are just graphics change yes 14:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> newindustries is about industry behaviour, industry look could be changed long ago 14:59:22 *** Takato [~takato_m@Z8768.z.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:22 <glx> if they are newindustries they won't work 14:59:35 <glx> the best way is to try it yourself ;) 15:01:36 *** Takato [~takato_m@Z8768.z.pppool.de] has left #openttd [] 15:10:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:16:09 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:16:18 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-180-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:59 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:22:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:13 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:40 <SmatZ> http://88.146.45.107/ttd/big_city2.png even more scary :) here, it decided to grow to the NE and SE directions 15:26:06 <hylje> haha 15:26:10 <hylje> scary indeed 15:27:41 <Amis> lol 15:27:44 <Amis> thats funny 15:27:48 <Amis> cant you send me the map? 15:28:24 <hylje> certainly a map to build a mass transit system in a huge city would be intriguing 15:29:29 <SmatZ> Amis: here it is http://88.146.45.107/ttd/town3.scn http://88.146.45.107/ttd/town5.scn 15:29:41 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:11 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host86-146-19-164.range86-146.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:30:39 <hylje> thanks 15:30:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:31 <Nesta> So, I installed the linuz server, got it working, but I dont see where to configure the name, etc.... 15:32:46 <hylje> openttd.cfg 15:33:16 <Nesta> I dont see it in the directory I created 15:33:58 <Amis> smartz, with what version you saved the game? cuz i cant open :P 15:35:13 *** lobster [~IceChat7@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 15:36:01 <Rubidium> Amis: I guess something recent like r12049 15:36:08 <Amis> aha 15:36:36 <DJGummikuh> hehe 15:37:07 <Amis> small medium large, city is the largest or its between large and medium? 15:40:42 <SmatZ> Amis: savegame version last changed in r12042 15:41:24 <SmatZ> Amis: probably the largest, and it has probably set the 'city' flag, so it grows faster (just guesses) 15:41:56 <Amis> and one more: how much time you clicked the expand? :D 15:42:21 <SmatZ> Amis: 100000 times :) 15:42:35 <SmatZ> edited source to repeat the operation 100000 times ;-) 15:42:50 <Amis> lol 15:43:07 <SmatZ> it took roughly one hour 15:43:24 *** DJGummik1h [~joey@xdsl-87-79-251-171.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 15:47:06 <Amis> phej... that was close... 15:47:18 <Amis> i started a mouse clicker 15:47:39 <Amis> it clicked 4600 times on the many random towns and i couldnt stop it 15:48:08 <Amis> 1 click / 0.001 second 15:49:16 <Hendikins> SmatZ: Good lord 15:49:22 <Hendikins> (I just looked at the screenshot) 15:50:25 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@xdsl-87-78-93-212.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:12 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:50 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:55:19 <Zoeff> hmm 15:55:20 *** Mark [~Mark@53559DD1.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:21 <Zoeff> question time! 15:55:30 <Zoeff> How does one remove only one part of a station? 15:55:55 <SmatZ> Zoeff: click on Remove button 15:57:05 <Zoeff> ah 15:57:05 <Zoeff> nice 15:57:21 <Zoeff> doesnt work on airports that are connected to a train station though. :'( 15:57:53 <SmatZ> you can remove the airport by dynamite 15:58:05 <Zoeff> yes but wont it remove the things connected to it as well? 15:58:09 <SmatZ> no 15:58:26 <Zoeff> kk 16:01:01 <Amis> am not good in drawing but its fun :D http://amis.weasy.net/fun.png 16:02:20 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has joined #openttd 16:07:18 <redmonkey> hehe, nice idea Amis :) 16:07:31 <Amis> what "better roads" means at towns? 16:10:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> it means it cleans up road bits that can not be connected anywhere (dead end) 16:10:38 <Amis> nothing else? 16:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm not sure what else has changed 16:11:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 16:11:28 <Amis> i wonder why the no more roads option is not allowed... not coded in map editor or removed for some reason? 16:11:35 <Amis> with it we could build nice maps 16:12:27 <Amis> any idea? 16:13:12 <Mark> the editor wont make towns if "no roads" is on 16:13:28 <Amis> but i NEED IT! 16:13:29 <Ammler> does cities grow in scenario editor? 16:13:36 <Amis> nope 16:13:42 <Ammler> so why you need it? 16:13:49 *** michi_cc [29f137a01f@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:54 <Amis> to expand towns to follow the roads i do 16:14:23 <Mark> doesnt it just say "no roads not recommended" or so? 16:14:39 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 16:16:35 *** yoe_ [~andree@kr-lun-231-148-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 16:18:01 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:20 <yoe_> anyone else having problems compiling with --enable-debug=3 --enable-desync-debug=2? in core/random_func.cpp 16:21:23 <Rubidium> not anymore 16:21:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12050 /trunk/src/core/random_func.cpp: -Fix: random_func broke for desync debug. 16:21:52 <Rubidium> though I'm wondering why you want to use desync debug 16:22:06 <Rubidium> and especially that level of desync debug 16:23:12 <yoe_> just playing around... i'm not very familiar with C but i'd like to see how everything works with vehicles leaving/entering stations, what funcs that are called etc. and instead of bothering you guys i thought i'd investigate it myself =) 16:24:26 *** michi_cc [7c6945e59e@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 16:24:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 16:25:01 <Nesta> server_name 16:25:04 <Nesta> whops 16:25:23 <Yorick> .? 16:26:04 <Nesta> Ok, so everytime I edit and save my openttd.cfg and upload it to the server (linux) and start ./openttd , it just loads the default values 16:26:24 <yoe_> Rubidium, what should i use to get the "normal" debug output to STDOUT? --enable-debug=<int> didn't do anything here.. 16:26:50 <Rubidium> run openttd -d 9 16:26:57 <yoe_> oh, thanks =) 16:27:15 <Rubidium> the --enable-debug just adds debugging symbols and other useful stuff when trying to debug stuff in the debugger 16:27:49 <Rubidium> anyhow, the binary you are running will be dead slow 16:28:22 <yoe_> i did a new configure without desync 16:29:23 <Rubidium> debug 2 disables most optimizations and 3 even disables any inlining of code (so lots of overhead due to function calls) 16:29:45 <Nesta> Should the openttd.cfg have this in it connect_to_ip = EYÿEYÿEYÿEYÿEYÿ ? 16:30:19 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:23 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:30:25 <Rubidium> does you server have more than 8 network interfaces (physical and virtual)? 16:30:43 <Nesta> Probably 16:31:12 <Rubidium> then you need a very recent nightly 16:31:32 <Nesta> Joy 16:31:32 <Rubidium> betas (or stables) will not work correctly 16:33:13 <Amis> to have nightly, the only thing i have to do is to dowload the latest nighly and copy it onto openttd? 16:34:01 <Amis> or what do i have to do? 16:34:37 <Nesta> Its asking for a password.... 16:35:40 <Nesta> For the SVN that is 16:35:50 <Rubidium> well you shouldn't try to commit I guess 16:36:06 <Rubidium> checkouts and updates do not require passwords 16:36:10 <Amis> somebody? nightly? thats the way to do? 16:36:30 <Rubidium> Amis: probably, but I never actually installed a nightly 16:37:07 <Amis> and yes it works... and yes i can open SmatZ map :D 16:38:28 <Nesta> I dont know why it was asking for a password.. maybe the wrong address or something.. but I downloaded the latest nightly they have from the website.. uploading it now 16:41:09 <SmatZ> Amis good :) 16:42:30 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43:15 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04fc98.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:32 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:45 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:45:27 <yoe_> hm, wouldn't a "ETA" be kinda useful in the status window of vehicles (e.g. "Heading for Station B, ETA 00:01:29")? 16:46:30 <Amis> wow... river tool 16:50:47 <SmatZ> yoe_: impossible 16:51:02 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 16:51:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'd not say impossible, but complicated 16:51:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> you could have YAPF return the length of the path it chose 16:51:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> and mangle that with some kind of average speed 16:51:35 <SmatZ> yeah 16:51:35 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:49 <SmatZ> but the problem is how to determine your average speed on that way 16:51:55 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:52:08 <yoe_> yeah, it'll be pretty complicated.. but what about a simple one? for, lets say "without anything in my way, i'll be there XX:XX:XX or something 16:52:18 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:24 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 16:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> the main use of that should be estimating a timetable (instead of filling out one run) 16:53:34 <yoe_> or maybe base it on data.. average time per delivery 16:54:37 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:56 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:55:42 <ln-> oh, denmark has two internets. 16:56:03 <SpComb> heh 16:56:19 <SpComb> how many internets does finland have? 16:56:45 <ln-> millions 16:56:47 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:57:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have teh jiggainternets! 16:57:23 <SpComb> hah, so finland is at least half a millions better than denmark 16:57:47 <SpComb> (except that my internet traffic to europe is moslty routed via denmark) 16:57:54 <yoe_> what dev tool would you suggest under linux? 16:58:10 <yoe_> for this project i mean 16:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> xkcd 16:58:32 <SpComb> svn? make? gcc? 16:58:40 <SpComb> and vim 16:58:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://xkcd.com/37 16:58:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://xkcd.com/378 16:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> damn 16:58:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> half copy... 16:59:59 *** yoe_ [~andree@kr-lun-231-148-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:53 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:10 *** peol [~andree@kr-lun-231-148-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 17:05:57 <Amis> somebody should make a new, improved city growing algorithm :) 17:06:05 <Yorick> goodluck 17:06:09 <Amis> hehh... 17:06:26 <Rubidium> and that somebody is .... Amis. Congratulations with the task! 17:06:30 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: thats a sweet-ass comic 17:06:34 <Sacro> *that's 17:06:37 <Amis> lol 17:07:21 <Amis> and yes! i killed 2,724,586 people with one click :D 17:07:50 <Yorick> TLC Error: char map unbalanced <-- is that normal when starting the autopilot with 0.6.0-beta3? 17:08:35 * Yorick wants glx to respond 17:08:45 <Amis> question: why the tree planting is limited? 17:08:53 <Rubidium> Yorick: you better ask the author of autopilot about it 17:09:03 <Yorick> @seen Brianetta 17:09:03 <DorpsGek> Yorick: Brianetta was last seen in #openttd 4 days, 4 hours, 14 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <Brianetta> Simply acknowledging your presence (: 17:10:05 <Yorick> I would love to do that 17:10:10 <Yorick> but he's not here 17:10:24 <Nesta> My linuxI'll use the console command to change the server_ip and saveconfig then download the config and it is changed... but when I restart the server it resets everything 17:10:45 <Yorick> reload_config set? 17:11:09 <Nesta> to true or false? 17:11:27 *** LordAzamath is now known as LordAzamath[baltica] 17:11:34 <Yorick> true? 17:12:34 <Nesta> it was set to false... set it to true... still doign the same thing 17:12:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> Nesta: the game overwrites the .cfg file on exit 17:12:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> exit the game first 17:12:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> then edit the config 17:12:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> then start 17:13:16 <Nesta> Exited... 17:13:20 <Nesta> Uploading config.... 17:13:39 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 17:14:28 <Nesta> Start server... 17:14:42 <Nesta> Still jacked up 17:14:54 <Nesta> 'server_ip' changed to: 0.0.0.0 17:15:07 <Nesta> 'server_name' changed to: My example dedicated gameserver 17:19:06 <Amis> man... Trigger Happy TV is amazing :D 17:19:18 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F39D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:40 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> are you sure you changed the right config file? 17:19:59 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:20:23 <Nesta> openttd/bin/openttd.cfg 17:23:17 <Yorick> I would really like to get the autopilot to work today :( 17:27:40 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:00 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:30:40 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31:00 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:31:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:31:37 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B3F5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:33:17 <Yorick> Brianetta! 17:33:21 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:53 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:35:19 <Yorick> I'm trying your autopilot, but there is one problem with it, as soon as I try to join my server, error: char map unbalanced appears 17:35:45 <SmatZ> sounds Yoda-ish :) 17:35:56 <Yorick> :D 17:38:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:07 <Yorick> Brianetta ? 17:39:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:39:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:41:40 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:58 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:42:02 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N949P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:43:13 <Yorick> Brianetta , please, help! 17:43:58 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:11 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:44:47 * Yorick slaps Brianetta's bottom and grins cheekily 17:45:08 <Sacro> Yorick: he isn't single :p 17:45:51 <Yorick> the hydrairc slap command author had soo many inspiration 17:47:31 <peol> could someone point me in the right direction? how would one make a station to trigger on vehicle leaving/entering (e.g. run a count function that tracks vehicles to get throughput per month) 17:47:57 <Yorick> ask belugas to implement that grf feature :-) 17:48:35 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a patch on flyspray for waypoint stats 17:48:56 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm even station stats i think 17:49:10 <Gonozal_VIII> just woke up, not too good at thinking atm^^ 17:49:15 <Brianetta> Yorick: wtf 17:49:23 <Brianetta> I'm trying to clean the sofa fabric 17:49:41 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-157-233.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:47 <peol> hm, i never found any working ones (the waypoint stats i found was for r4XXX) 17:50:03 <Gonozal_VIII> update it ;-) 17:50:54 <peol> hehe, sure, because i'm a god in C-programming ;) 17:52:28 <Gonozal_VIII> you are? cool 17:52:53 <SmatZ> cool 17:52:58 <Yorick> Brianetta, please help *begs* 17:53:13 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:54:51 <Brianetta> Yorick: With what? 17:55:29 <Yorick> the autopilot doesn't let me join 17:55:36 <Brianetta> Which autopilot? 17:55:43 <Yorick> 2.0.4 17:55:54 <Brianetta> Which server? 17:56:05 <Yorick> hmm...private server 17:56:08 <Yorick> it lets me join 17:56:14 <Yorick> but then gives an error 17:56:21 <Brianetta> What error? 17:56:32 <Brianetta> You need to volunteer a great deal more information 17:56:41 <Yorick> [18:35] <Yorick> I'm trying your autopilot, but there is one problem with it, as soon as I try to join my server, error: char map unbalanced appears 17:57:06 <Brianetta> Never seen that error before. haven't heard of it. Is this at the server, or in your game? 17:57:16 <Yorick> the server 17:57:16 <Gonozal_VIII> unbalanced?^^ 17:57:25 <Brianetta> OK 17:57:31 <Brianetta> Try using a less weird name 17:57:38 <Yorick> Error sourcing /Documents and Settings/Eigenaar/Mijn documenten/downloads/OpenTT 17:57:38 <Yorick> D/FreeWrap/autopilot.tcl: char map list unbalanced 17:57:47 <Brianetta> Try using a less weird name 17:57:49 <Yorick> less wierd what? 17:57:51 <Brianetta> name 17:57:59 <Yorick> as client? 17:58:00 <Brianetta> What's your player name? 17:58:03 <Yorick> Yorick 17:58:11 <Brianetta> OK, so the next thing to look at is your config file 17:58:26 <Brianetta> The only thing left is that you've changed the responses 17:59:13 <Yorick> only thing I've changed is the irc part, but even if I disable it 17:59:32 <Brianetta> Even if it's disabled, the IRC settings must remain valid 17:59:42 <Yorick> they are 17:59:44 <Brianetta> otherwise the file doesn't parse properly 17:59:59 <Brianetta> What are your responses? 18:00:40 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:00:44 <Yorick> here is a copy of my openttd.cfg: http://pastebin.com/d5d8b6401 18:00:48 <Yorick> my what? 18:01:00 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:01:38 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe get rid of that _ in the nick and server name? 18:01:59 <Brianetta> GoneWacko: Doesn't matter 18:02:06 <Yorick> gonewacko? 18:02:17 <GoneWacko> pfft. 18:02:18 <Brianetta> Yorick: Are you using the latest version of autopilot? 18:02:20 <GoneWacko> Learn to tab complete you! 18:02:21 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe poor gonewacko, always gets highlighted because of me 18:02:27 <Yorick> 2.0.4 18:02:34 <Brianetta> Gonozal_VIII: I did tab-complete :-p 18:02:45 <Gonozal_VIII> i know that :P 18:02:54 <Gonozal_VIII> but gontab isn't enough 18:02:56 <Brianetta> Yorick: Try the latest SVN release 18:03:11 <GoneWacko> You'd be thoroughly retarded if you actually wrote my nickname entirely by hand 18:03:19 <Brianetta> Gon*: Work out between you which of you is responsible for this sorry state of affairs. 18:03:30 <Yorick> Brianetta, I'll try, but I'm going to eat something first 18:03:33 <Yorick> cya 18:03:41 *** Yorick is now known as Yorick|AFK 18:03:49 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-157-233.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:04:01 <Gonozal_VIII> since when does one have to leave irc for food? 18:04:48 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:1f07:2df:240:f4ff:fe52:a74e] has joined #openttd 18:05:40 <Gonozal_VIII> fish = Today's fish is Trout a la crÚme. Enjoy your meal. <-- that setting seems to be very important 18:10:52 <Amis> good night all! byebye 18:11:02 *** Amis [~amis.weas@dsl5400EB4F.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Say What?] 18:11:10 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:11:10 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:11:46 *** Zuu [~leif@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:12:10 <Sacro> !fish 18:12:15 <Sacro> @fish 18:12:23 <Sacro> i'm sure _42_ used to respond 18:16:47 <Ammler> Sacro: nope, it doesn't 18:16:48 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [Quit: back later] 18:17:01 <Ammler> just tested at #openttdcoop 18:17:40 <SmatZ> _42_ is not here 18:17:58 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:19:50 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:19:50 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:55 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:22:12 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:22:13 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-157-233.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:29 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:22:30 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22:50 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 18:22:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 18:23:19 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:29:16 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:56 *** Yorick|AFK is now known as Yorick 18:30:28 <Yorick> back! 18:30:30 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd090.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 18:30:38 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd090.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 18:31:28 <Yorick> well brianetta, how do I check out the svn? 18:32:41 <peol> Yorick, http://www.openttd.org/dev.php 18:32:53 <Yorick> peol, I know about that =D 18:33:05 <Yorick> Access to the SVN server on ppcis.org is only available through ssh. 18:33:21 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-234-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:33:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:33:24 <peol> svn checkout <url> <local dir> 18:33:39 <peol> oh 18:34:07 <Yorick> but that is not very nice fr a windows system 18:34:45 <Gonozal_VIII> tortoise svn :-) 18:35:12 <Yorick> without having to install more junk, please 18:35:21 <Gonozal_VIII> that's no junk 18:35:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> <peol> could someone point me in the right direction? how would one make a station to trigger on vehicle leaving/entering (e.g. run a count function that tracks vehicles to get throughput per month) <- there might be a function "VehicleLoadUnload" or something that will trigger on arrival of a train on a station, and will also send it going again, you could hook up the counting there 18:35:26 <Yorick> it is 18:35:26 <Rubidium> what scm works nice on windows? 18:35:43 <Gonozal_VIII> you also need tortoise merge for applying and creating patches 18:35:49 <Yorick> no you dont 18:35:54 <Gonozal_VIII> do too 18:36:07 <Yorick> MSYS _O_ 18:36:10 <Rubidium> nah... applying patches on windows systems is much better done in Microsoft Word 18:36:13 <peol> Eddi|zuHause3, aye. i found EnterStation/LeaveStation in train_cmd.cpp 18:36:27 <Gonozal_VIII> microsoft word wtf? 18:36:40 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 18:36:41 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... joke 18:37:02 <Rubidium> well... notepad sucks even more 18:37:23 <Rubidium> and with MS Word you can (manually) do highlighting 18:37:29 <Gonozal_VIII> you don't need a texteditor for applying patches.. 18:37:51 <Rubidium> you do not want to know how many people apply patches that way ;) 18:38:19 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:1f07:2df:240:f4ff:fe52:a74e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:21 <Rubidium> as a matter of fact I even did it 18:38:22 <Gonozal_VIII> well i did that too with too many conflicts to solve in tortoise merge... 18:38:45 <Gonozal_VIII> but not on a regular basis 18:39:11 * Rubidium wonders whether backporting is 'on a regular basis' 18:42:03 <Yorick> yes, but now tell me how to get the svn using the windows svn 18:42:24 <Rubidium> a) there is no "windows svn" 18:42:27 <Gonozal_VIII> tortoise svn :P 18:42:31 <Yorick> svn for windows 18:42:42 <Gonozal_VIII> right click on a folder and svn checkout 18:42:49 <Rubidium> Gonozal_VIII: that is not svn for windows 18:42:56 <Yorick> WITHOUT tortoise! 18:43:06 <Gonozal_VIII> it works fine in windows 18:43:08 <Rubidium> svn for windows is the command line svn client from svn built to run on windows 18:43:22 <Rubidium> so it should be done as peol said 18:43:52 <Yorick> Access to the SVN server on ppcis.org is only available through ssh. 18:44:12 <Rubidium> tried svn+ssh://ppcis.org/<whatever> ? 18:44:52 *** saati [saati@infinity.wigner.bme.hu] has joined #openttd 18:44:56 <saati> hi 18:46:11 <saati> in 0.6-beta3 mail/goods tram dissapear (i cant buy new ones) sometime near 1997, is this a bug or by design? 18:47:03 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:47:03 <Sacro> MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russians visiting a health resort received a rude shock when a nurse used hydrogen peroxide instead of water to give them enemas. 18:47:44 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB74AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:49 <Rubidium> saati: probably by design (no new trams after somewhere in the 1950s/1960s I guess) 18:48:26 <Gonozal_VIII> you can turn on the patch option "vehicles never expire" 18:49:16 <Yorick> svn: Can't create tunnel: Can't find file. 18:50:21 <Gonozal_VIII> tunnels have to be placed slope :-) 18:50:36 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:00 <Gonozal_VIII> make sure your internet is sloped 18:51:17 <Yorick> =D 18:51:37 <Yorick> [19:51] Yorick is connected via SSL (secure link) 18:51:57 <Yorick> I think my internet is sloped enough 18:52:21 <Gonozal_VIII> huh, where did the words go in the first line 18:52:31 <Yorick> ? 18:52:48 <Yorick> "/whois Yorick" 18:52:49 *** Jortuny is now known as Jortuny-away 18:52:53 <Gonozal_VIII> [19:50:21] Guest232: tunnels have to be placed slope :-) 18:52:59 <Gonozal_VIII> i wrote more... 18:53:02 <Gonozal_VIII> and my nick :S 18:53:08 <saati> Gonozal_VIII: thx 18:53:11 <Yorick> [19:50] <Gonozal_VIII> tunnels have to be placed slope :-) 18:53:47 <Yorick> Brianetta ? 18:54:13 <Yorick> hmpf 18:54:18 * Yorick gives Brianetta a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC 18:58:39 <Yorick> someone help me? 18:58:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83C69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:58:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:59:00 <LordAzamath[baltica]> with what? 18:59:09 *** LordAzamath[baltica] is now known as LA 18:59:17 <Yorick> trying to checkout from a ssh+svn server 18:59:44 <Brianetta> Are you using the private key? 18:59:47 <Gonozal_VIII> just use tortoise :P 18:59:47 *** LA is now known as Guest292 19:00:01 *** Guest292 is now known as LA[lord] 19:00:01 <Brianetta> There's no such thing as anonymous ssh 19:00:23 <Yorick> yes I know 19:00:47 *** nfc [nfc@88.195.110.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:52 <Brianetta> Which ssh client are you using? 19:00:57 <Brianetta> and which SVN client? 19:01:00 <Yorick> Anonymous SVN access for autopilot seems to be the title of your post 19:01:11 <Yorick> there comes the problem 19:01:18 <Brianetta> Anonuymous SVN, yes, but not anonymous ssh 19:01:19 <Yorick> putty with Subversion standard client 19:01:30 <Brianetta> Putty 19:02:03 <Brianetta> When you say standard client, do you mean the Unix one, or Tortoise? 19:02:11 <Yorick> Unix one, running on windows 19:02:22 <glx> putty + svn works for me 19:02:42 <Brianetta> What did you do with the secret key? 19:02:45 <Yorick> yes, but I dont know how to set up and you do 19:02:48 <glx> but you need a public key :) 19:02:58 <Brianetta> glx: You need a secret one, ironically 19:03:06 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@r75-110-2-196.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:11 <Yorick> I put the secret key in the putty folder 19:03:31 <Yorick> I dunno how to do it 19:03:31 <Gonozal_VIII> you need to upload your private key to a website 19:03:32 <Brianetta> http://instantbadger.blogspot.com/2006/09/svn-over-ssh-svnssh-on-windows-via.html 19:03:47 <Brianetta> Gonozal_VIII: You're misunderstanding this. 19:03:53 <Ammler> www.openttdcoop.org/autopilot-svn-42.tar.bz2 19:04:25 <Yorick> ah, thanks 19:04:40 <Yorick> Ammler: don't make it that easy 19:04:52 <Yorick> you spoiled all the puttistic fun 19:04:57 <Ammler> I wasn't able to checkout it either 19:05:36 <Ammler> Brianetta: is 42 last revision? 19:05:42 <Brianetta> um 19:05:46 <Brianetta> hang on 19:05:56 <Gonozal_VIII> putting the private key in some dir for a program to read isn't exactly the best for security 19:06:04 <Brianetta> yes 19:06:27 <Brianetta> Gonozal_VIII: There's no other way to do it 19:06:47 <Brianetta> Since that private key is available to download, it's hardly an issue 19:07:15 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-20-187.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:37 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@r75-110-2-196.gvllcmtc01.gnvlnc.ab.dh.suddenlink.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:07:54 <Ammler> Brianetta: how to checkout it with linux? 19:08:17 <Ammler> should be easy, I assume :) 19:08:37 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:08:50 <Yorick> svn svn+ssh://... 19:09:02 <Yorick> svn co ... , I mean 19:09:23 <Ammler> hmm can you be more specific? 19:09:43 <Yorick> svn co svn+ssh://svn@ppcis.org/autopilot 19:10:36 <Ammler> and the private key? 19:12:01 <Yorick> how should I know that? 19:13:44 <Yorick> hmm...I like that winmerge-thingy :) 19:16:03 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:00 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:24 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:17:32 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has joined #openttd 19:17:45 <DirtYiCE> hi 19:18:09 <Yorick> hi 19:18:35 <Yorick> Brianetta: the same problem again! 19:18:53 <DirtYiCE> any NoAI people here? 19:19:02 <Rubidium> Yorick: you should get the SSL key needed for the ssh connection 19:19:09 <Rubidium> and you can find that on the forum 19:19:36 <Gonozal_VIII> most people here are not ais 19:19:40 <Yorick> Rubidium: ammler gave me the source 19:19:46 <Gonozal_VIII> or any kind of i 19:20:14 <Rubidium> DirtYiCE: why? 19:20:22 *** Zaviori [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 19:20:22 <Yorick> DirtYiCE: *check 19:20:32 <Yorick> but I think you should ask Rubidium, he's the main dev 19:20:36 <Yorick> on it 19:20:41 <DirtYiCE> i just started to (or try) make an ai 19:21:31 * Rubidium has very very little AI knowledge 19:22:02 <DirtYiCE> well currently.. 19:22:16 <DirtYiCE> why can't I change colors? 19:22:30 <DirtYiCE> but it's not the most important thing.. 19:22:51 <DirtYiCE> only a nice to have thing :) 19:22:59 <Gonozal_VIII> ai doesn't care about colours ;-) 19:23:26 <Rubidium> DirtYiCE: because the API is far from finished and colours are very low on the todo list 19:23:46 <DirtYiCE> where is the todo list? 19:23:52 <Rubidium> and the API isn't going far lately due to serious time constraints 19:24:02 <Yorick> somewhere inside Rubidiums head 19:24:04 <Rubidium> actually there isn't one 19:24:23 <DirtYiCE> oh :) 19:25:00 <DirtYiCE> anyway, what do you reccomend to start with? road transport or air transport? 19:25:16 <Gonozal_VIII> air is easier 19:25:17 <Rubidium> air is quick money, road transport is more challenging 19:25:54 <DirtYiCE> so then i should make somethong working with air, tnen after challenge with road :) 19:26:11 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-234-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:24 <Gonozal_VIII> a good train ai would be nice 19:27:44 <DirtYiCE> and what's with the LowerRaise patch? did it get into trunk? 19:29:47 <Rubidium> I have no idea what patch you're talking about 19:30:08 <DirtYiCE> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=30933&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=f2951a308c21e6fa3ca8143759d42391&start=260 19:30:34 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-185-228.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:47 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl4-210-198.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 19:32:00 <Yorick> hmm...it works! 19:32:21 <Yorick> I put an email 19:32:29 <DirtYiCE> hmm.. how can i get a list of available cargos? 19:32:41 <DirtYiCE> i see no AICargoList 19:33:45 <Rubidium> then you have to iterate them manually I guess 19:34:00 <Yorick> Brianetta: email needs to be filled in 19:34:43 <DirtYiCE> Rubidium: hmm.. but where can i get cargo_ids? 19:35:22 <DirtYiCE> ( sorry if i ask stupid questions ) 19:35:44 <Rubidium> nowhere, just that it is 0..31 19:35:59 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:36:01 <DirtYiCE> ahm 19:36:50 <DirtYiCE> or maybe get it from vechiles? because i shouldn't care with cargos that i can't transport.. 19:36:52 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-234-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:36:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 19:41:46 *** peter1138 [~petern@88-108-234-13.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 19:47:54 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:51:19 <Yorick> Brianetta? 19:52:28 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [Quit: --> house] 19:53:17 <Yorick> the autopilot is just not coming up with unpausing the game when going from 0 to 1 client 19:53:29 <Yorick> but when I go from 1 to 2, it unpauses 19:53:42 <Yorick> and when I go back to 1, it unpauses again :( 19:53:58 <Yorick> going from 1 to 0 pauses the game, as it should 19:55:06 <valhallasw> then fix your config file? 19:55:17 <Yorick> its at pause_level = 0 19:55:18 <valhallasw> oh,wait 19:55:23 <Yorick> and min_players = 0 19:55:24 <Yorick> ;) 19:55:43 <Nesta> What should this variable be set to? "lan_internet" 19:55:58 <valhallasw> sounds like a variable that's hardcoded in one location and variable in the other 19:56:37 <Yorick> maybe the coop guys have changed the thing 19:57:33 <Yorick> ah, I can see $::players > $::pause_level && $::pause_level >= 0 19:57:47 <Yorick> on onjoin 19:58:39 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-105.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:58:44 <Yorick> aah 19:59:42 <Yorick> it's a variable on both 20:00:38 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 20:00:39 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 20:01:52 *** LA[lord] [~LordAzama@ip18.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 20:05:41 <Nesta> Any one know why I would be having a problem with the config file resetting everytime I start the linux server? 20:06:17 <Gonozal_VIII> not beginning with a newline? :-) 20:06:26 <Nesta> exit 20:06:29 <Nesta> Doh 20:06:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> EWrongWindow detected 20:07:18 <Nesta> Going to try it 20:07:27 *** DJGummik1h [~joey@xdsl-87-79-251-171.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:07:42 <Yorick> hmm...it seems to miss the clientcount 20:08:03 <Nesta> Should I be using the -D command? 20:09:35 *** Yorick is now known as Yorick|AFK 20:09:55 <Nesta> Gonozal_VIII - Didn't help 20:10:27 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:10:42 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:11:42 <Ammler> Yorick|AFK: older ottds hadn't the pauselevel 20:11:54 <Ammler> thats why Brian made that in autopilot 20:12:23 <Ammler> if you like to switch off, pauselevel, set it to -1 20:12:28 *** Agravain [~chatzilla@lns-bzn-44-82-249-247-153.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:12:41 <Ammler> in other hand you can switch off min_players with 0 20:13:55 <Ammler> pause_level = min_players - 1 20:14:05 *** Agravain [~chatzilla@lns-bzn-44-82-249-247-153.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [] 20:14:46 <planetmaker> any of the devs here? In nightly 12025 on my mac the currency symbol for euro doesn't work. I got a question mark there... 20:16:21 <Rubidium> planetmaker: and in 12050? 20:16:42 <Rubidium> because I'm not fancying fixing already fixed bugs 20:16:47 <Rubidium> furthermore did you compile yourself? 20:17:31 <Nesta> Rubidium - Know why my openttd.cfg would be resetting everytime I start the linux server? 20:18:06 <Rubidium> I got absolutely no idea 20:18:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12051 /branches/noai/ (345 files in 26 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk (r11795:12050). 20:18:47 <peol> Nesta, write protect it ;-) 20:19:17 <Rubidium> but it is most likely because you have invalid settings in there 20:20:00 <Nesta> I was thinking that LoL 20:20:08 <planetmaker> rubidium: I didn't compile myself. Just from the archive. Haven't tested, but will test with xxx50. 20:23:52 <Nesta> peol - No dice, still loads up in the default, just doesn't change file now 20:24:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r12052 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix [FS#1737] (r11494): The cargo translation table was loaded at the right time, but all the other global variables were now loaded too early. ;) 20:24:18 <peol> probably some invalid settings as Rubidium noted 20:24:51 <Nesta> The damn thing is so crunched together I cant make head or tails of most of it anyway LoL 20:26:04 <Nesta> Any one have a working config file, I could nab to work off of? 20:26:07 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@110-016-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:48 <planetmaker> rubidium: I got a ? on the latest nightly, too. 20:27:02 <planetmaker> for the currency symbol instead of euro that is 20:27:06 <Rubidium> just a black one or a red one? 20:27:19 <Rubidium> and are you using any newgrfs? 20:27:49 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:28:18 <planetmaker> The right colour. In all places, like status bar, money chart... 20:28:34 <Maedhros> actually, i'm not getting any symbol at all where the euro symbol should be in options menu dropdown 20:28:37 <planetmaker> I've the openttdcoop grf package... 20:28:52 <planetmaker> and was playing on their server... 20:29:21 <Rubidium> the euro character works for me 20:29:29 <Maedhros> i can just about see it on the in-game status bar, but it seems to be the same colour as the status bar, so all i see is the shadow 20:29:29 <Ammler> openttdcoop currency is pounds :P 20:29:39 <Ammler> £ 20:31:32 <planetmaker> ammler: yes? Hmm... I always thought currency was a local issue... 20:32:09 <Maedhros> http://devs.openttd.org/~maedhros/euro.png 20:32:10 <planetmaker> it is. the other currency symbols work. 20:32:35 <Maedhros> (this is with no newgrfs at all, on r12052) 20:33:20 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:04 <planetmaker> I get the same w/o any newgrf 20:34:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12053 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (177 files in 14 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Sync: with trunk r11949:12050. 20:34:47 <Yorick|AFK> O+ 20:34:52 *** Yorick|AFK is now known as Yorick 20:34:55 <Ammler> planetmaker: didn't you see the smily? 20:35:25 <planetmaker> sry. missed it :) 20:35:46 <Ammler> -y+e 20:35:47 *** Yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: quitterdyquitquit hmm...Peter R. de Vries is showing how it really went with Nathalee Holloway right now :-)] 20:36:01 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has quit [] 20:36:35 <Chrill> DJ Chrill @ TGS Radio | #TGS.Radio | Winamp: http://listen.tgsradio.com/listen1.pls | WMP: http://listen.tgsradio.com/listen1.asx 20:37:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:32 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-121-216-53-146.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:38:23 <planetmaker> anyplace to paste screenshot (sniplets)? 20:38:51 <Maedhros> hmm. £ and Â¥ still work, so it can't be just due to multi-byte problems 20:39:06 <planetmaker> yes. $, too. 20:39:26 <Maedhros> that's only a single-byte in utf-8 ;) 20:39:42 <planetmaker> But unlike your scree shot, in the currency selection I still have currency (EUR) available. 20:40:00 <planetmaker> but ingame it screws. 20:42:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F57730.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:42:43 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:44:28 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:49 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:58:41 <Nesta> screenshot_format = savegame_format = 20:58:59 <Nesta> is that line supposed to look like that? 20:59:10 <glx> no 21:00:26 <Nesta> Is there a page some where that explains how this should look.... 21:01:05 <glx> it should be 2 lines 21:02:21 <Nesta> screenshot_format = savegame_format 21:02:30 <Gonozal_VIII> savegame format is png :-) 21:02:31 <Nesta> and rightclick_emulate = false 21:03:03 <glx> screenshot_format = 21:03:03 <glx> savegame_format = 21:03:03 <glx> rightclick_emulate = false 21:03:10 <glx> should be like that 21:03:49 <Nesta> jpeg for screenshot? 21:03:57 <Prof_Frink> NEVER 21:04:15 <glx> keep the default value 21:04:18 <Prof_Frink> Do what Gonozal_VIII said. 21:04:23 <Nesta> There is no value... thats the problem 21:04:37 <glx> that's the default value :) 21:04:43 <Nesta> there are a few that have no value 21:04:50 <glx> the game will do the right thing 21:08:10 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.153.73.130] has joined #openttd 21:11:14 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-246-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:13:11 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:36 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd090.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:41 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 21:28:15 <Nesta> I was redoing the config file and I just reran it and got this error up exit... 21:28:26 <Nesta> ini: invalid value 'HOW_TOWN_NAMES|SHOW_STATION_NAMES|SHOW_SIGNS|FULL_ANIMATION|FULL_DETAIL|WAYPOINTS' for 'display_opt' 21:28:37 *** sHELL [~dah@ip51cfa249.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 21:28:45 <sHELL> hi 21:28:48 <Chrill> hai 21:29:01 <Rubidium> Nesta: looks like you're missing a S 21:29:15 <sHELL> ._. kinda wondering, any way to add some more industry to OpenTTD? 21:29:37 <sHELL> and not replacing the orginal ones :/ 21:29:40 <Chrill> There's the NewIndustries, but I am not sure if they work in OpenTTD.. 21:30:34 <Chrill> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list&cid=4 check this 21:30:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> newindustries works in 0.6 but not in 0.5 21:31:15 <sHELL> hmm 21:31:36 <sHELL> new industrie as in adding more of the same? (thats most of the hits I get in google) 21:32:56 <Wolf01> 'night 21:33:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host190-232-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:33:22 <sHELL> more talking about, a new industry like having an extra suply chain... example, uranium mine >>> uranium enrichment >>> nuclear plant :P 21:33:53 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 21:34:03 <Gonozal_VIII> with lots of protestors and a train maximum speed of 5 km/h? 21:34:32 <sHELL> XD 21:34:58 <hylje> newind allows for more complex stuff than that 21:37:35 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:35 <sHELL> can I get a url to that... google keeps pushing me back to the "buy new industry" stuff :/ 21:38:22 <Gonozal_VIII> http://george.zernebok.net/newgrf/downloads.html 21:38:35 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d04fc98.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 21:39:42 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 21:39:45 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 21:41:39 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:51:54 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 21:54:05 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@p54BB927B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:55:29 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p5B206EF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: quit] 22:00:47 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 22:06:10 *** Zuu [~leif@c-363c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:07:06 *** Nesta [~none@p54ADE905.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: « ÃÃÃÌ®§îöñ » Info~[v9.5]~ Released~[October 27, 2003]~] 22:12:19 <Noldo> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atari-Tycoon-Deluxe-PC-DVD/dp/B000H1K8WW/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202076566&sr=8-2 22:12:22 <Noldo> hmm 22:12:49 <Noldo> I didn't know there was such a recent rerelease 22:13:06 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 22:13:24 <Gonozal_VIII> so? 22:13:35 <SmatZ> no TTD in that package 22:13:52 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-246-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:21 <Noldo> ah sorry 22:15:00 <Noldo> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atari-Transport-Tycoon-Replay/dp/B00005LDJB/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1202076566&sr=8-1 22:15:21 <Noldo> so this is the latest release 22:15:23 <Gonozal_VIII> Minimum Age: 3 O_o 22:15:40 <Gonozal_VIII> Fun Toyland world <-- hehehehe 22:15:49 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-246-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 22:16:25 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-057-246-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:16:35 <Gonozal_VIII> can't see a 3 year old playing ttd... 22:16:55 * SmatZ cannot order from Amazon 22:16:59 <Gonozal_VIII> in the "fun toyland world" 22:17:11 <Gonozal_VIII> cannot order from amazon? why? 22:17:25 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has left #openttd [] 22:18:06 <SmatZ> Czech republic is not listed in "Countries Covered by Amazon Payments".... nor Austria as I can see http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=3149601#countries 22:18:15 <SmatZ> maybe I misundestand what it means 22:18:39 <Gonozal_VIII> amazon works fine here 22:18:49 <SmatZ> hmm so it should work here too :) 22:19:33 <Gonozal_VIII> well... there's amazon.at but no amazon.cz 22:20:03 <SmatZ> "Marketplace" is probably that 'second-hand' store from Amazon 22:20:42 <Noldo> Gonozal_VIII: well, there is nothing in the content that would make it not suitable for a 3 year old 22:21:26 <Gonozal_VIII> it's not about the content... chess content is suitable for children too 22:21:28 <Noldo> though I remember my 7 year old sister-in-law playing and she was mostly just blowing up stuff 22:22:43 <SmatZ> :) 22:26:07 * SmatZ wonders why he gets "svn: No such revision 11934" when he tries to "svn up" in ttdpatch svn directory... 22:26:14 <Noldo> eventually I had to ask here how to cheat for more money and people were giving me the "don't you wanna play fair" lecture :) 22:26:31 <glx> lol @ SmatZ 22:26:33 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 22:26:38 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26:41 <Gonozal_VIII> wait a few decades^^ 22:26:55 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 22:26:57 <SmatZ> :) 22:30:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:38:55 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-0-160.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:40:23 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:42:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E1DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:51 <fjb> Hello 22:43:00 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 22:43:36 <Gonozal_VIII> every odd number is prime 22:43:43 <Gonozal_VIII> 1, 3, 5, 7.... see? 22:44:17 <Rubidium> 1 isn't a prime 22:44:43 <Gonozal_VIII> well... it can be divided by 1 (and) itself... 22:45:26 <Rubidium> it isn't a prime number by definition 22:45:29 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII has less than nine fingers. 22:45:47 <Gonozal_VIII> some exceptions are to be expected 22:46:06 <Gonozal_VIII> but 11 and 13 works again, so 9 is no problem 22:49:47 <Gonozal_VIII> i can read thoughts over irc... 22:50:03 <Gonozal_VIII> think of any even prime number and i'll guess which one it is 22:50:39 <Rubidium> using Gonozal_VIII's principles a Fibonacci sequence exists of only primes too 22:51:32 <Gonozal_VIII> yep :-) 22:51:49 <Gonozal_VIII> nobody cares about stupid 8 22:53:06 *** divoafx [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:55:05 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:56:08 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: `fortune` says: http://paste.openttd.org/508 22:56:17 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 22:56:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 22:57:03 <Gonozal_VIII> that's where i got it from^^ 22:57:10 <peter1138> from me? 22:57:28 <Gonozal_VIII> no 22:57:33 <Gonozal_VIII> that's old 22:57:46 <Rubidium> from chanserv ofcourse 23:00:05 <fjb> That reminds me about a very religios guy. I asked him out of curiousity why he belives in god. He explained that all science is a lie, so only religion is true. 23:00:27 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 23:01:10 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: fortune also says http://paste.openttd.org/509 23:01:48 <peter1138> time is fleeting 23:01:51 <fjb> He claimed that teaching science is bad, because science has proofs. But you can trust in no proof, so that is bad. Religion has no proofs because you just have to belive, that is a good thing. 23:01:57 <fjb> :-) 23:02:19 <Gonozal_VIII> makes a whole lot of sense^^ 23:03:00 <Rubidium> but then he proved his point, which makes it untrustworthy, i.e. bad 23:03:03 <peter1138> the days when he frequented his on fan group... 23:03:06 <peter1138> *own 23:04:18 <fjb> Yeah. We discussed a bit about that and the principles of proofs. But he claimed that all asumptions on which proofs are based are plain wrong. I saw no sense in further dicussing that and he didn't understand why. At least I think my questions was answered. 23:05:19 <fjb> Don't discuss with religious people about religion. :-) 23:05:50 <fjb> And don't ask them simple questions. 23:07:14 <Gonozal_VIII> the less they know, the more they believe 23:07:41 <SmatZ> the more they believe, the less they know 23:07:48 <SmatZ> the other way around.... 23:07:49 <fjb> Yes, the is a principle of many religions, sadly. 23:07:52 <fjb> That also. 23:08:24 <Gonozal_VIII> like those idiots teaching creationism in schools 23:08:38 <fjb> I didn't want to question his religion. 23:09:18 * Rubidium ponders whether there are actually people that believe nothing 23:09:24 <fjb> Yeah, he voted for creationism as an alternate view of the world. 23:10:18 <fjb> I knew somebody who belived almost nothing. At least nothing that somebody (even close friends) told him. :-) 23:10:24 <Gonozal_VIII> well... all unproven theories in science are believes too 23:10:37 <SmatZ> true 23:10:39 <Rubidium> fjb: but then he believed in that 23:10:52 <SmatZ> but there are many indicies they are true 23:11:07 <fjb> Rubidium: Yes, he believed in something. Almost nothing, but really not nothing. 23:11:39 <SmatZ> like - well, somebody could say there are many indicies a God exists... 23:11:47 <Gonozal_VIII> yeah... wouldn't believe stuff without any kind of indication that it could be that way... 23:13:35 <fjb> SmatZ: Most people belive that because they were told when they were little kids. God may exist, but the chances are low. 23:13:44 <Gonozal_VIII> there are things where science just doesn't work... like the question what was before the big bang or what's beyond the event horizon of a black hole... 23:15:05 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: yes, that's also what I don't understand - why is there anything instead of nothing? wouldn't it be simpler if there never was anything? no people, no Earth, no Sun, no Space at all 23:16:15 <SmatZ> why is our space energetically cheaper than 'nothing' - 23:16:50 <Gonozal_VIII> simpler and a lot more plausible... probability of an universe like ours where we can exist are low... but if it was otherwise, we couldn't think about why it is like it is^^ 23:16:54 <fjb> That would be simpler, not OpenTTD hacking, no discussions like this. But is that an indication of god? Maybe. Or is it just we not understanding it yet? Both is possible. 23:16:56 <SmatZ> I think one day scientists will understand that - and I hope I will be alive that day :) 23:17:27 <SmatZ> fjb: the other question, what was before the God? :-) 23:17:35 * fjb thinks SmatZ is a Timelord. 23:17:44 <SmatZ> :) 23:17:53 <fjb> SmatZ: I also had that tought.. Who made god? 23:18:03 <fjb> thought 23:18:53 <Rubidium> god ofcourse 23:18:56 <Rubidium> via recursion 23:19:03 <SmatZ> :-D 23:19:20 * SmatZ is afraid of possible Stack Overflow 23:19:34 <Gonozal_VIII> my believe in that part would be that there were a lot of universes before ours started and there will be a lot more after that, almost all of them not suitable for life but we wouldn't have evolved in one of those 23:19:38 <fjb> Rubidium: How big is the god stack? 23:19:39 <Chrill> Patchman made love to orudge`, thus creating God 23:19:50 <SmatZ> uh :-x 23:20:29 <Rubidium> infinite 23:20:30 <Chrill> Anyone here who can download two songs for me? I sort of can't find em thru the hub I have access to 23:20:52 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: maybe there were +inf universes before us with intelligent life, and there will be +inf after us 23:20:54 <Gonozal_VIII> that's illegal chrill ;-) 23:20:59 <fjb> Chrill: Try amazon. 23:21:06 <Rubidium> try itunes 23:21:07 <Gonozal_VIII> yes that too smatz 23:21:08 <Chrill> but that's not for free 23:21:11 <Chrill> and iTunes suck 23:21:21 <Chrill> my computer can't handle it :( 23:21:30 <Gonozal_VIII> and i'm sure there's other intelligent life in ours too 23:21:32 <fjb> Nothing is for free. 23:21:41 <Chrill> is too 23:21:46 <SmatZ> downloading is legal here... 23:21:57 <SmatZ> but I couldn't send it to you, because it is illegal 23:22:05 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: If it is really intelligent we will never get to know about it. 23:22:07 <Chrill> why's everyone proper like orudge here? :( 23:22:27 <fjb> Mr Proper? 23:22:38 <fjb> Makes the kitchen clean. 23:22:39 <SmatZ> make mrproper doesn't work in OTTD Makefile 23:22:45 <Rubidium> primarily because the CIA is watching and relaying info to the RIAA? 23:22:46 <SmatZ> :-D 23:22:48 <Gonozal_VIII> distances are too big to ever meet others anyways 23:22:59 * Chrill slaps CIA upside down with a forktruck 23:22:59 <UnderBuilder> one question... is legal changing the firefox icon by the internet explorer one? 23:23:04 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: better for them. 23:23:06 <Rubidium> SmatZ: make mrproper does work! 23:23:15 <UnderBuilder> not creating one, selecting it from the icon list 23:23:50 <SmatZ> Rubidium: yeah, sorry - make realclean doesn't work 23:24:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-157-62.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:24:29 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: maybe... maybe there will be a way to do shortcuts in space - and maybe there are other civilisations watching us already 23:24:35 <fjb> UnderBuilder: That depends on where you are living. Better ask a local lawyer. 23:24:40 <UnderBuilder> I want to camuflate my firefox as IE 23:25:25 <UnderBuilder> here suitments by piracy are strange thing (Argentina) 23:25:58 <UnderBuilder> (i'm talking about the Chrill thing) 23:28:06 *** ServalTheStalker [~b4lite@bas1-toronto01-1177658472.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 23:28:40 <ServalTheStalker> !help 23:28:47 *** ServalTheStalker is now known as Serval 23:28:53 <Gonozal_VIII> !nohelp 23:28:59 <Serval> aww, no easly link XD 23:29:41 *** Serval [~b4lite@bas1-toronto01-1177658472.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 23:29:53 <fjb> Strange guy. 23:29:59 <Sacro> superbowl 42! 23:30:05 <Chrill> UnderBuilder, it's legal to DL but not to share, I think, here 23:30:32 <fjb> Chrill: Where are you living? 23:30:37 <Chrill> swe 23:31:41 <fjb> SWE? That is no ISO country code. 23:31:53 <glx> .se 23:34:26 <fjb> That is part of the EU. I would not asume that sharing copyrighted thinks is allowed there. I may be wrong, but better ask a lawyer first. 23:34:42 <Chrill> why's everyone so boringly legal 23:34:56 <Gonozal_VIII> officially 23:35:31 <fjb> Chrill: We don't care if the police takes your computer away. But we care if they take ours. 23:35:46 <Chrill> And they monitor OFTC to take someone sending a single song, oh yes 23:35:53 <Chrill> nobody's ever busted for file sharing damnit 23:36:16 <glx> happened here 23:36:23 <fjb> Not busted, but you can easily lose your computer equipment that way. 23:36:26 <Chrill> oh noes, CIA's gunna eat me up 23:36:28 *** sdsgsgdsghfg [~Gonozal_V@N949P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:36:28 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest316 23:36:28 *** Guest316 is now known as Guest317 23:36:28 *** sdsgsgdsghfg is now known as Gonozal_VIII 23:36:32 <ln-> 01:21 < Chrill> but that's not for free <-- why would you need to get your songs free? 23:36:47 * Chrill is arrested 23:36:47 <fjb> Chrill: Why don't you do illegal things by yourself? 23:36:50 <ln-> Chrill: would you like to work for free, too? 23:36:54 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 23:37:03 <Chrill> Soz guys, gotta go to the station, i got arrested 23:37:14 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Weee Waaa Weee Waaa Wee Police r comings to get mee] 23:37:22 <SmatZ> ln-: because you pay fees for recording companies by every empty CD, HDD, DVD,... you buy in a shop? 23:37:27 <fjb> Stupid guy. 23:37:59 <Gonozal_VIII> most of the money for cds never reaches the artists 23:38:02 <SmatZ> I have the right to download music/movies, because I pay much more in these fees than the music/movies I download is worth 23:38:05 <ln-> SmatZ: i don't pay, i doubt he pays either. 23:38:15 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: nor the price you pay in shop 23:38:18 <fjb> If they would never get him for doing illegal things, they get him because he is asking in open chanels... 23:38:28 <glx> SmatZ: but you can't upload :) 23:38:31 <Rubidium> Gonozal_VIII: s/most/none/;s/never / 23:38:35 <Gonozal_VIII> that's what i was talking about smatz 23:38:53 <SmatZ> glx: yeah... 23:39:02 <SmatZ> but somebody has to, so I can download 23:39:21 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: 41 days to go! *O*] 23:40:25 <fjb> Asking people "Can you do illegal things for me for free?" is still stupid. 23:42:59 *** Guest317 [~Gonozal_V@N949P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:43:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:43:59 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 23:50:58 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-0-160.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]