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me 09:23:57 <SpComb> depends, if you turn your head around a bit for some parts it kind of does 09:23:58 <HMage> yup 09:26:42 *** mongie [~what@ppp118-208-118-40.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:12 <mongie> I don't know if this is how things are done around here... but I have an issue - my fast forward button does nothing 09:31:11 <mongie> never mind 09:31:17 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm44.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:31:20 <mongie> game speed is dependent on how big the window is !?! 09:31:24 *** mongie [~what@ppp118-208-118-40.lns4.bne4.internode.on.net] has quit [] 09:31:48 <peter1138> lol 09:33:55 <HMage> er 09:34:00 <HMage> what was that? 09:34:22 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 09:34:42 <peter1138> speed-complaining 09:35:25 <HMage> you mean complaining about speed or complaining in speedy fashion? 09:36:35 <Rubidium> SpComb: "rmrm" or "mecb" or "tebnpm" aren't quite english looking words either 09:37:15 <HMage> Rubidium: lol 10:00:02 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm44.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 10:01:46 <ln-> what about vsyom privyet? 10:02:10 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81073.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8121C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:03:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:11:03 *** larsemil [~larsemil@221-173-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:19:41 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 10:24:27 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-55-122.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:24:54 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 10:24:57 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29:46 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:32:20 *** Poopsmith [~Poopsmith@124-197-37-77.callplus.net.nz] has quit [Quit: 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more flexible and remove 'hack' that used the full load flag to set the service if needed flag. 12:47:17 <jordi> Rubidium: I requested they sucked in from unstable explicitly 12:47:33 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2CBEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:34 <Rubidium> but it gets in Ubuntu 'stable' almost right away (assuming they release it in a few days) 12:47:56 <Rubidium> ofcourse I've got no problem with Ubuntu adding it to their latest release 12:48:01 <jordi> Rubidium: in normal circumstances, hardy would have got a sad 0.5.3-1 package 12:48:18 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-163-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> and what makes the circumstances "abnormal"? 12:48:53 <Rubidium> the fact that we released 0.6.0 on April 1st? 12:48:53 <jordi> Eddi|zuHause2: hardy has been frozen for some time now 12:49:04 <jordi> no new packages get in without manual approval, and only to fix stuff 12:49:33 <peter1138> however, there are *a lot* of manual approvals... 12:49:38 <peter1138> especially for gnome, heh 12:49:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> you missed my question... what makes openttd "special"? 12:49:53 <jordi> peter1138: not for major new versions of multiverse packages 12:50:16 <jordi> Eddi|zuHause2: I asked and insisted it's a good idea, I guess 12:50:38 <jordi> and maybe me being the requester (DD and so) did help 12:50:47 <jordi> if that's what you mean 12:51:20 <jordi> I argumented that the old version will be not so useful when everyone is using 0.6.x to play online. Common problem for free online games 12:51:45 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:47 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:53 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 12:52:06 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-57-222.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:53:53 <shodan> but it still needs the original files, yeah? 12:53:59 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-170-026.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:00 <shodan> ubu wouldn't be distributing them 12:54:01 <peter1138> ... 12:54:08 <peter1138> of course 12:54:28 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:54:54 <shodan> kinda interesting then that they include software that has that kind of requirement 12:55:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:55:37 <peter1138> like, say, quake2/3 12:56:41 <peter1138> 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has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:38 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499CA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:47 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:28 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:48:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12639 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix: order window was not marked dirty on changed orders. 17:49:50 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 17:49:50 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:34 <Digitalfox_Home> That's a lot of diff files peter1138 =0 17:52:23 <Digitalfox_Home> You had enginepool for r6*** :p 17:54:14 <peter1138> hmm? 17:54:20 <peter1138> oh, you found my dump? :) 17:54:26 <Digitalfox_Home> Dump directory ;) 17:54:41 <peter1138> yeah 17:54:56 <Bjarni> Digitalfox_Home: are you a plumper? 17:54:58 <Belugas> on my machine, it would rather be a dumb directory :D 17:54:58 <peter1138> see, i said (somewhere) i'd done it ages ago 17:55:12 <Bjarni> looks like you took a look at peter1138's toilet :P 17:55:16 <peter1138> the 2008 one is a total rewrite, of course 17:55:50 <Digitalfox_Home> Bjarni you pervert =0 17:56:01 <Bjarni> :( 17:56:15 <Bjarni> wouldn't that imply that I'm turned on by this 17:56:21 <Bjarni> which is certainly NOT the case 17:56:26 <peter1138> i dumped all the patches off one machine into a directory called... dump 17:56:39 <Digitalfox_Home> Now be a good boy Bjarni and commit the enginepool of peter1138 =0 17:56:56 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd26d.f.ppp-pool.de] has joined #openttd 17:57:07 <Bjarni> first you insult me and then you ask me for a favour 17:57:19 <Bjarni> that's not a wise order of doing stuff 17:57:28 <Digitalfox_Home> Bjarni :) 17:57:35 <peter1138> Bjarni, how's the fix for the newgrf/autoreplace problem? 17:58:27 <Bjarni> it's not done 17:59:35 <peter1138> started? 17:59:42 <Bjarni> yes 17:59:46 <Bjarni> ages ago 17:59:55 <Bjarni> I have a plan on how to do it 18:00:02 <Bjarni> but it's not a minor change 18:00:08 <ln-> http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/04/09/image/One%20talented%20Ho.jpg 18:00:12 <peter1138> we're doomed 18:00:18 <Bjarni> hehe 18:00:23 <Bjarni> that's why it takes a while 18:00:28 <Bjarni> well 18:00:32 <peter1138> ln... er... 18:00:53 <peter1138> that's intentional, right? 18:00:56 <Digitalfox_Home> ln how the hell did that happen? :\ 18:01:03 <Bjarni> I mean the reason why it takes a while is that I want to think it though carefully and ensure that it works before committing anything 18:01:35 <Bjarni> <Digitalfox_Home> ln how the hell did that happen? :\ <-- looks like it's on purpose 18:01:37 <peter1138> i'm sure it's not the sactioned method of getting it up there 18:01:40 <Bjarni> Americans... 18:02:02 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F56251.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:02:16 <Digitalfox_Home> But even on porpuse how did he do it? :\ 18:02:38 <Digitalfox_Home> *purpose 18:02:51 <Bjarni> he lifts the front and placed it on top of the wagon 18:02:58 <glx> pictures are quite explicit on how he did it 18:03:09 <Bjarni> he then lowered the front and rear so the middle is lifted 18:03:28 <Bjarni> yeah 18:03:40 <Bjarni> bbl 18:04:27 <Belugas> didn't he used the rear to push him on the truck? 18:04:33 <Belugas> that's how i see it, anyway 18:05:37 <glx> the other way would be nice to see too :) 18:05:54 <Belugas> you mean how he would get down? 18:05:58 <glx> yes 18:06:36 <Belugas> the truck would just raise its... platform ? 18:06:36 <Belugas> hehe 18:06:50 <Belugas> ->benne<- 18:10:05 <Belugas> but either way, the guy is a genius :) 18:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's funny ;) 18:14:49 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:14:49 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:11 *** divoafx 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full load and full load any based on the patch setting instead of using the patch setting directly. 18:26:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> oh where they travel into the past ;) 18:26:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, that's a funny episode ;) 18:26:57 <ln-> exactly 18:27:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> "did you switch colours?" - "they wore them like that" - "and the women wore less" [rough translation] 18:30:25 <ln-> in another episode, o'brien says the funniest sentence of all trek... 18:31:27 <ln-> o'brien, odo and sisko are dressed and masqueraded as klingons. o'brien tells a joke to odo, who doesn't laugh, and o'brien says: "it's not easy being funny wearing these teeth!" 18:32:09 <Belugas> odo needed to be dressed?? 18:33:47 <ln-> if you have to ask, i won't spoil you. 18:35:25 <Belugas> hehe 18:35:46 <Belugas> it will take a lng time before i'd watch those episodes anyway :) 18:36:10 <ln-> but instead i'll tell that captain Janeway in Voyager was supposed to be played by a french-canadian actress. 18:36:20 <Belugas> i know 18:36:29 <Belugas> Genevieve Bourne 18:36:37 <Belugas> or something like that 18:36:39 <ln-> Bujold 18:36:43 <Belugas> true 18:37:12 <ln-> she was not very convincing in those clips. 18:37:21 <Belugas> and we all know taht Shatner was canadian too 18:37:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> most of the scifi stuff gets produced in canada anyway 18:38:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> like stargate 18:38:06 <ln-> surely Shatner is still alive 18:38:09 <Belugas> nikita too 18:38:43 <Belugas> was canadian, ln-. Now an american :) 18:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> i read somewhere that canadians are occasionally called "wannabe americans" ;) 18:39:03 <Belugas> not in my book, Eddi|zuHause2... by far... 18:43:47 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:49:39 *** Guest985 [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:57 <Belugas> # Sending out an SOS 18:52:12 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:46 <Bjarni> back 18:53:16 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> i read somewhere that canadians are occasionally called "wannabe americans" ;) <--- this would appear to be such a devious insult that I would never use it 18:53:49 <Belugas> depends 18:54:07 <Belugas> some canadians (mostly on the "west") would like it to happen 18:54:23 <Belugas> but not the majority, by far 18:54:37 <Belugas> and it's for sure not the case in quebec 18:55:11 <Bjarni> I wonder if Mexico is wannabe Americans 18:55:19 <ln-> and Texas 18:55:21 <Bjarni> somehow I don't think so 18:55:42 <Bjarni> I mean they wouldn't mind the money but they would mind the culture 18:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> texas is the only country that joined the USA as a state (instead of the other countries, who joined as "territory" and later got promoted to "state") 18:56:58 <Ammler> I liked the Serie ReGenesis 18:57:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> "liked"? i thought that still gets produced? 18:57:47 <Ammler> hmm, the laborary is booomed up in last episode, so I thought its finish :-) 18:57:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i didn't watch it 18:58:12 <peter1138> booomed up? 18:58:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i thought i read somewhere they ordered a 4th season 18:58:14 <Ammler> really "unamerican" finish 18:58:37 <Ammler> peter1138: :-) 18:59:47 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d0430a9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:59:57 <Bjarni> well it's not like the movie guys never figured out a way to make money on some story they trapped in a dead end like after they killed all characters and blew up the planet 19:00:25 <Digitalfox_Home> lol http://www.petitiononline.com/RRH53888/petition.html already 150000 signatures =0 19:00:45 <Digitalfox_Home> *almost 19:01:06 <Bjarni> what? 19:01:13 <Bjarni> who is this guy? 19:01:39 <Forked> so today I found lolcode .. and I feel openttd should not be rewritten in that language 19:01:53 <Forked> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093051/ 19:02:04 <Digitalfox_Home> Bjarni: Uwe Boll, the German director behind such horrid video game adaptations as House of the Dead, BloodRayne, Dungeon Siege and Postal, has recently admitted that he would retire from making movies if enough people want him to stop. When FearNet mentioned to Boll a petition online signed by 18,000 people requesting that he cease making films, Boll responded that â18,000 is not enough... 19:02:06 *** jez9999 [pinout@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:02:06 <Digitalfox_Home> ...to convince me.â So how much would be enough? 19:02:19 *** glx|away is now known as glx 19:02:30 <Digitalfox_Home> âOne million,â Boll said. âNow we have a new goal.â 19:03:07 <Forked> on my fifth attempt I found a movie that has scored higher than 3.0 on his list 19:03:20 <Digitalfox_Home> So almost 150000 signatures until now :) 19:03:23 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499CA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:38 <Bjarni> lol 19:03:45 <Forked> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0758781/ .. looks great! 19:03:45 <Bjarni> now I get the signatures 19:04:14 <Bjarni> maybe 150k people is enough for him to stop 19:04:38 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:13 <Bjarni> Factual errors: The press announcement for this movie claimed the story is based on true events. However, the notion that a convict who survives three jolts from the electric chair is automatically pardoned and set free is an urban legend. There is no such law. <-- lol 19:05:43 <Bjarni> surely there should be no such law 19:05:56 <SmatZ> being retarted for rest of life 19:06:03 <Bjarni> imagine setting free a serial killer due to technical malfunctions in the chair 19:06:43 <SmatZ> it is probably functioning if it gives him a jolt 19:07:16 <Bjarni> right 19:07:23 <Bjarni> hmm 19:07:28 <Bjarni> making movies of video games 19:07:35 <Bjarni> who wants to make a pacman movie? 19:07:53 <Vikthor> better yet, a TTD movie :D 19:08:12 <SmatZ> wow :) 19:08:18 <SmatZ> I have seen a few at youtube 19:08:28 <Bjarni> me too 19:08:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> Season 4, Episode 1: TB or not TB 19:08:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> Original Air Date: 3 March 2008 19:08:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> [says IMDB] 19:08:48 <Bjarni> however they were not convincing enough to proof as a 90 minute cinema experience 19:08:55 <SmatZ> :-) 19:09:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> (to Ammler) 19:09:11 <Vikthor> Well I think it would be pretty boring 19:09:17 <Bjarni> The Secret of Monkey Island could be interesting though 19:09:25 <Bjarni> and then again we already know the plot 19:09:42 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause2: yeah, I saw the german syncs only 19:10:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> they came on a really odd channel, i always missed them... 19:10:26 <Ammler> I guess, they are too complicted to see in english 19:10:52 <Bjarni> What is too complicated in English? 19:11:08 <Ammler> ReGenesis, for me :-) 19:11:28 * Bjarni looks up ReGenesis 19:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's about a genetic laboratoratory 19:11:36 <Bjarni> I better figure out what it is before replying to that one ;) 19:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> from what i read 19:12:27 <Ammler> novag, north american ... 19:12:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Genetisist David Sandstrom is the chief scientist at the prestigious virology/micro-biology NORBAC laboratory which is a joint enterprise between the USA, Canada and Mexico and is responsible for countering bio-terrorism." 19:12:53 <Ammler> ah norbag 19:12:54 <Bjarni> thriller.... 19:13:01 <Bjarni> doesn't sound like my kind of thing 19:13:18 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> where do you get "thriller" from? 19:13:44 <Bjarni> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0429422/ 19:13:44 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:53 * Belugas watched a very intense show yesterday evening... 19:14:04 <Belugas> how they cracked the maya wwriting 19:14:10 <Belugas> man... i REALLY loved it! 19:14:12 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause2: I have also a torrent of them, if you need :-) 19:14:15 <Bjarni> documentary? 19:14:21 <Belugas> eas 19:14:22 <Roujin> about monkey island movie... http://www.majusarts.de/film/monkey/ <-- but that's rather 90 seconds than 90 minutes ^^ 19:14:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think i can help myself, thank you ;) 19:14:27 <Bjarni> sounds interesting 19:14:36 <Belugas> it was :) 19:14:55 <Belugas> Maya writing was the reason i got into computers :) 19:15:04 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:15:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is a weird way ;) 19:15:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> i got into computers because my father worked with them 19:16:01 <Belugas> so did my father, but since i was a rebel toward him, it was certainkly not to do as dad :D 19:16:31 <Belugas> but i've found out that i was able to order all the notes and graphics of glyphs more easily on a screen than on paper :) 19:16:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> hehe ;) 19:17:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> i guess i'm not the rebellic type in general 19:19:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:20:37 <Bjarni> so Mayans made Belugas use computers 19:20:42 <Bjarni> now that sounds logical 19:23:08 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:08 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:28 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499CA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:25 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:29:57 <Belugas> [15:19] <@Bjarni> so Mayans made Belugas use computers <- false... you are altering my words 19:30:58 <Bjarni> so did the Mayans 19:33:22 <Bjarni> well if the Mayans didn't write anything then Belugas might never had started using computers 19:34:30 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:59 <Digitalfox_Home> Anyone here has monkey Island 1?? Is it 3MB of size or it should be more for the enhanced version with sound and 156 colors? 19:35:08 <Digitalfox_Home> *256 19:35:28 *** LordA [~questionm@ip114.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:35:43 *** LordA [~questionm@ip114.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [] 19:37:10 *** Guest1182 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:38:37 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-248-075.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:40:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i had monkey island on 4 1.2MB disks 19:40:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> but there's no chance i'll find a drive to read them and get the data somewhere useable 19:41:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> if i even find the disks 19:41:31 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:43:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-144-229.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:43:31 *** Guest1182 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:37 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d0430a9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:43:53 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:44:20 <Ammler> [1]Roujin: Roujin around? 19:45:12 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:46:17 <Ammler> is that big load of work: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/570 19:46:44 *** Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d0430a9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:44 <Ammler> adding a new parameter password to start arguemnts? 19:47:32 <SmatZ> Ammler: sure it isn't, I guess it is not added due to possible security problems 19:47:35 * SmatZ has no clue 19:48:04 <Ammler> well, its doable for clientside only, isn't? 19:48:15 <SmatZ> yes 19:48:26 <Sacro> don't specify the password on the command line >< 19:48:28 <Sacro> is viewable easily 19:48:40 <Sacro> ls /etc/pacman.conf.pacnew 19:48:41 <Sacro> err 19:48:43 <Sacro> hmm 19:48:51 <SmatZ> yes, that's what I mean by "security problems" 19:48:55 <Sacro> /bin/sh: /proc/self/cmdline: Permission denied 19:48:57 <SmatZ> but on the other hand 19:48:57 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:48:59 <Sacro> pff 19:49:05 <Sacro> cat 19:49:07 <SmatZ> most people play from home 19:49:08 <Sacro> >< 19:49:14 <Sacro> SmatZ: some don't 19:49:22 <Sacro> it'll show up in /proc/self/cmdline 19:49:24 <Ammler> well, thats up to the client, isnt? 19:49:32 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:49:34 <SmatZ> Sacro: nobody forces you to use that :) 19:49:45 <Sacro> ytur 19:49:47 <Sacro> err 19:49:48 <Sacro> true 19:49:59 <Ammler> I tried to start ottd with expect but that didn't work :-) 19:50:03 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7896C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:50:42 <Ammler> my little start script: http://svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/autostart/start 19:50:54 <Ammler> the only missing thing is the password :-) 19:51:14 <Sacro> http://www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/64265/1207769291/vibrotrim.jpg 19:51:15 <Sacro> err 19:51:18 <Sacro> wrong channel 19:51:27 <Ammler> not needed in trunk really, but nice to have it 19:51:38 <SmatZ> Sacro: definitely :) 19:52:04 <SmatZ> Ammler: are you able to code it? 19:52:22 <Ammler> I wouldn't ask here, if I am.. ;-) 19:52:30 <SmatZ> :-( 19:52:42 <Sacro> SmatZ: pfft 19:52:48 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:52:49 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12641 /trunk/src/ (40 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: do not use the same button for two completely distinct tasks, just make an extra button for it and hide them when not needed. 19:52:54 <Ammler> then I would write the patch and post it to fs :-) 19:53:00 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B60E1C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:10 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:16 <Sacro> http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r275/petehix/88mph.jpg 19:53:37 <SmatZ> lol 19:53:56 <SmatZ> 70% at 40MPH? that's rather a lot 19:54:17 <Ammler> its around 60km/h? 19:54:41 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:47 <Ammler> thats usual town speed 19:55:04 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 19:55:15 <Ammler> SmatZ: aren't you either? 19:55:20 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:55:34 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:08 <SmatZ> Ammler: it is a bit over 60km/h, and the law says 50km/h in most countries :) 19:56:31 <Ammler> I meant the coding :P 19:56:34 <SmatZ> and I guess people will break before you hit her 19:56:43 <SmatZ> so one can go at ~100km/h 19:56:48 <SmatZ> then start braking 19:56:56 <SmatZ> hit the child at ~60km/h 19:57:02 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E30C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:05 <SmatZ> and it will still have 70% chance to live 19:57:11 <Ammler> noway 19:57:24 <Ammler> that breaking is calculated in 19:58:06 <SmatZ> are you really sure? 19:58:11 <Ammler> nope 19:58:40 <Ammler> well, you have chance to live, but how 20:00:31 <SmatZ> is there any place where I can get ttdpatch < 1.7a2 ? 20:00:49 <Sacro> SmatZ: THE INTErNETS 20:01:11 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:14 * Sacro will sell you one if you require it 20:01:47 <SmatZ> Sacro: I wonder it is not at http://ttdpatch.net/src/old/ 20:02:08 <SmatZ> or if it was that alpha stage 20:02:15 <SmatZ> it was not released... 20:06:58 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:10:33 *** Morloth [~bram@53542231.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:10 *** User [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:13:43 *** User is now known as Guest1187 20:16:04 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:31 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:16:32 *** UserErr0r [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:18 <Kloopy> I've only ever closely followed OTTD developemnt (watcing SVN checkin logs/development forum and wiki updates) since about 0.5.0 so I'm not too sure what happens at this stage of the process... How quickly do the wonderful developers tell their plans for the 0.6.X/0.7.0 release? What major updates are planned, etc? 20:18:17 <Digitalfox_Home> Kloopy a good start http://blog.openttd.org/ 20:19:19 *** UserError [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:27 <Belugas> a good start... try seeing the futur on a cristal ball and come back telling us what we'll do next :D 20:20:33 <Kloopy> lol 20:20:55 <Kloopy> I presume there are some ideas and features that you're excited by that you're tempted to work hard on? 20:21:28 <Sacro> teehee 20:21:33 <Sacro> you said "hard on" 20:21:38 <Sacro> XD 20:21:56 <Kloopy> I spent years coding and working on Planetarion, the space browser based comat game, and that voluntary work was all about working on the stuff we foudn fun, as much as possible. I presume at this point you're quite keen to develop the more fun features? 20:22:07 <Kloopy> combat* 20:22:27 <Belugas> there are stuff been worked on indeed 20:22:34 <Belugas> most of them are known 20:22:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> Kloopy: devs do not tell their plans, you occasionally get a cryptic commit message out of the blue like "ability to build tunnels under rails built on foundations, maybe other uses, too" 20:22:58 *** Guest1187 [~User@c-98-202-77-105.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> and then it's the total killer feature that everyone wanted for ages 20:23:05 <Kloopy> hehe, Eddi indeed, I have read some cryptic messages in blog.ottd.com to. 20:23:06 <Kloopy> too 20:23:09 <Belugas> or "Add support to property xyz" :D 20:26:05 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:26:17 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:27:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> # HwÊr cwóm helm - HwÊr cwóm byr[ne] - HwÊr cwóm feax flówende 20:27:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> # HwÊr cwóm hand - on hearpestrenge - HwÊr cwóm [scir fyyr] scÃnende 20:27:47 <Kloopy> ÐŒÑÐŒÑ. вÑеЌ пÑОвеÑ. or something, wasn't it? 20:27:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> english only! 20:28:07 <Kloopy> ... 20:28:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it is old english, but still english 20:29:00 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause2 is light, as you can lead in the title only engrish is allowed. 20:29:05 <jez9999> strange 20:29:15 <jez9999> The Pirate Bay doesnt give me any videos for Sugababes - stronger 20:29:22 <jez9999> it was a semi-popular video, i thought they had everything :-) 20:29:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> "everything" ... where do you get that thought from? 20:31:24 <ln-> nw: Battlestar Galactica 4x01 20:32:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> Kloopy: if you are really interested: http://www.geocities.com/magpie930/THEMES/THnature_whiterider.htm 20:32:34 <peter1138> it's on youtube though 20:32:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:15 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:33:20 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> jez9999: generally, for stuff older than 6 months you probably better results from a tracker specialised to that kind of stuff [music videos] 20:33:38 <jez9999> such as? 20:33:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> +get 20:33:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> how should i know? 20:34:00 <jez9999> i'll just get it off eMule 20:34:09 <jez9999> you'd have though TPB could archive stuff though 20:34:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> a tracker does not archive anything 20:34:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> it only tracks 20:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> hence the name 20:34:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> if there are no seeders, there is nothing to track 20:35:00 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:35:20 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:12 <peter1138> sugarcubes were better than sugababes anyway 20:36:54 <Belugas> what i hate is sugarfree 20:37:01 <Belugas> does not taste as good... 20:37:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> better than alcoholfree 20:37:30 <Belugas> of course :) 20:37:46 <jez9999> the Kad network manages to have a remarkable array of stuff available 20:37:46 <peter1138> björk from 20 years ago 20:37:49 <jez9999> even historic 20:38:11 <Belugas> funny... Tanita Tiakram - Twist in my Sobriety 20:38:16 <Belugas> so a propos :) 20:38:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have that song 20:38:46 <peter1138> ... Sugarcubes - Birthday ... 20:38:46 <peter1138> heh 20:38:52 <Belugas> I love that song... 20:38:57 <Belugas> so good memories :) 20:39:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> i only have sugar hill, does that count? 20:39:20 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40:44 *** Guest1188 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:43:26 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 20:44:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:52 *** Guest1188 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47:04 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 20:52:09 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:24 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:57:27 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:02:32 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:56 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:11:47 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:03 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:13:49 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@mnch-4d0430a9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 21:18:10 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:36 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:25:09 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:51 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:34:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r12642 /trunk/src/oldloader.cpp: -Fix: remove buggy buoys at tile 0 from old TTDP savegames 21:34:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> who tests such patologic cases? 21:35:24 <Progman> http://progman2002.pr.funpic.de/pw_argument.diff 21:36:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> + " -p password = Join password\n" <- add "big security warning" 21:37:24 <Progman> what do you mean? 21:37:27 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:53 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:38:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> like "passwords given on the command line may be viewable by other users of the computer" 21:39:22 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 21:39:30 <kaan> evening all 21:40:47 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: I do search and test patologic cases 21:41:04 <SmatZ> many my patches are for patologic cases :) 21:42:05 <Progman> any other complains? I'm not sure how to free the password as I do atm just a _login_pw = NULL; 21:42:58 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:20 <Belugas> Progman, do not use spaces to align your stuff in network_client.cpp 21:44:26 <Belugas> use tabs instead 21:45:07 <Progman> I did again? 21:45:15 <Progman> damn, I got :set et by default ;) 21:46:06 <Rubidium> VARDEF... booh! 21:46:32 <Progman> just copied from the other variables o_O 21:47:02 <Rubidium> those need to be 'fixed' too 21:47:28 *** Guest1191 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:47:32 <Progman> what should be it instead? 21:47:34 <Ammler> nice done Progman 21:47:42 <Rubidium> something with extern 21:48:51 <Rubidium> _login_pw isn't initialised, which will give trouble on some platforms 21:49:00 <Progman> replacing VARDEF with extern doesn't work 21:49:32 <SmatZ> is there any platform that doesn't initialize by 0 by default? (maybe gcc2 ?) 21:50:05 <Rubidium> SmatZ: some debuggers do explicitly initialise it by something that isn't 0 21:51:36 <peter1138> static vars are initialized by default 21:51:59 <peter1138> hmm, or maybe that's just a quirk, heh 21:52:01 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499CA74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 21:52:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> if initialisation is not specified in the language definition, it may be an arbitrary number 21:52:32 *** Guest1191 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:45 <Ammler> this code should be server independet, isn't? 21:52:46 <Progman> what should I changed, and how? 21:52:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> it is probably 0 for previously unused memory, but if the memory was used before, it might keep old values stored there 21:52:51 <Ammler> I had desync 21:53:10 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has joined #openttd 21:54:01 <SmatZ> any OS can't afford to let any application read data that haven't been zeroed before 21:54:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> ("new" memory is typically cleared by the OS, for security reasons) 21:54:24 <SmatZ> I think 21:54:30 <Rubidium> but cleared doesn't mean zero-ed 21:55:14 <Wolf01> 'night 21:55:20 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host177-232-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:55:25 <Rubidium> MSVC debugger does mark uninitialised memory with non-zero stuff 21:56:22 <SmatZ> well, non-zeroed data could countain, for example, passwords... it would be a high security risk if an app could allocate memory with that 21:56:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: i mean "used before" by the same program 21:56:47 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: maybe... I don't really know, probably 21:57:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> and if you really want to get passwords, read the swapfile ;) 21:57:30 <Rubidium> SmatZ: *if* MSVC writes 0xCCCCCCCC to all newly allocated memory, then it doesn't zero it, but passwords can't be found either 21:57:51 <SmatZ> Rubidium: true 21:58:03 *** ProfFrin1 [~proffrink@90.211.131.77] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> or in case of MS applications, read the "text" variable of the "password" field ;) 21:58:24 <SmatZ> truth is that bss != heap 21:58:29 <SmatZ> bss should be zeroed 21:58:35 <SmatZ> heap doesn't have to 21:58:50 <SmatZ> if you reallocated memory previously freed by you process 21:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> the truth is, it all depends on the language definition 21:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> most newer language define initialisation of variables, but C[++] is very lazy in that kind of aspect 22:00:04 <Diadem> 200 trains transporting steel. Earning 400K per year each. 22:00:09 <Diadem> I like those numbers :) 22:00:30 <Diadem> Station rating 37%... Hmm, can add another 200 trains then :P 22:01:04 <SmatZ> :-) Diadem look at some openttdcoop games then :) 22:01:25 <Diadem> They don't reach those numbers 22:01:30 <Diadem> Not in 1968 22:01:36 <Diadem> They don't even start building before 2000 22:01:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12643 /trunk/src/ (41 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: be more explicit about the orders a vehicle has (non stop and full load are ambiguous and depend on some patch settings). 22:02:17 <SmatZ> :) 22:02:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> rubidium likes orders :) 22:02:31 <SmatZ> Rubidium orders 22:02:31 <Diadem> I've hooked up 93 out of 110 iron ore mines so far :) 22:03:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> we need goods destinations, too 22:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> where "goods" means "every cargo to be delivered to towns" 22:04:37 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41673.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:06:48 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:08:58 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 22:09:22 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E30C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:20:34 <ln-> Bjarni! 22:21:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-! 22:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> you reclaimed your dash 22:21:41 <ln-> hmm, when did that happen... 22:21:55 *** ln- is now known as ln 22:22:34 <Patrick`> bleh 22:22:39 <Patrick`> nothing I build ever turns out right 22:22:48 <Patrick`> it's an unsatisfying mess of spiderweb tracks 22:22:57 <Patrick`> prototyped a feeder/feedee system 22:23:12 <Patrick`> catchment areas = :S 22:24:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Erlangen%20Transport,%2012.%20Jul%201933.png 22:25:48 <SmatZ> hehe realmark :) 22:26:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... 22:27:12 <SmatZ> reichmark :) 22:27:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> any ambitions to get YAPP into trunk? i hate savegame version patches 22:27:46 <SmatZ> reichsmark! 22:28:01 <Rubidium> once it works properly maybe 22:28:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> what kind of "properly" is missing? 22:29:53 <Rubidium> things like crashes 22:30:15 <ln> someone should patch the fullscreen mode of SDL to something a little more usable. 22:30:43 <Rubidium> and that that station 'issue' with my savegame is resolved 22:30:46 <ln> i've tried, not quite successfully. 22:30:49 <SmatZ> ln: what problems with SDL fullscreen do you have? 22:30:57 <Sacro> Rubidium: i'll keep testing YAPP 22:31:03 <Rubidium> because the performance is still *way* less than when I'd use manual presignals 22:31:13 <Rubidium> performance meaning throughput 22:31:14 <ln> SmatZ: i can't move the mouse cursor to another screen, and cannot alt-tab out of OTTD while in fullscreen. 22:31:22 <Sacro> but i think it should be in for 0.7.0 22:32:15 <peter1138> ln: well fix sdl then :p 22:32:27 <SmatZ> ln: well, what more irratates me, is that the mouse pointer is invisible sometimes in the windowed mode 22:32:37 <SmatZ> but I think it is SDL problem, too 22:32:47 <ln> peter1138: as i said, i've tried, but i'm not very familiar with X11 api. 22:34:17 <ln> an almost-good solution is creating a borderless window of the size of the screen. 22:34:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have never used full screen in linux 22:35:59 <ln> the unsolved problem with the borderless window is that it stays below the bar. 22:37:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> mark it "always on top" 22:37:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> and trap alt+tab so you can hide the window 22:38:08 *** jez9999 [pinout@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 22:38:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> but this is the reason why i do not use full screen, i want the bar to be visible 22:42:57 <ln> what button should i press to build a Schwebebahn line? 22:43:19 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.67.68] has joined #openttd 22:43:38 *** Diadem [math@115pc224.sshunet.nl] has quit [Quit: Gone] 22:43:40 <peter1138> a what? 22:44:00 <Sacro> ln: the Schwebebahn button 22:44:11 <ln> a Schwebebahn 22:44:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.schwebebahn-wtal.de/ 22:45:20 <kaan> how does plane shadows stay under the plane? 22:45:56 <kaan> is the shadow a wagon or something? 22:46:04 <SmatZ> shadow is a vehicle 22:46:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> shadow is a "special" vehicle 22:46:52 <kaan> yes i know, but every other special vehicle stays where it is made in the first place 22:47:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> the shadow vehicle is referenced from the airplane vehicle 22:47:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> so the status can be updated when the airplane moves 22:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> like wagon positions get updated when the engine moves 22:48:16 <kaan> so it is handled sort of like aa wagon, ok 22:48:31 <kaan> thanks 22:49:33 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B7896C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:52:33 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-144-229.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r12644 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: rework the order gui a little to prepare it for some future changes. 23:00:36 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> now you are getting scary... CHANGES!?! 23:03:20 <SmatZ> oh noes 23:09:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CC9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:05 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has left #openttd [] 23:14:50 <Ammler> something happen with TTDPatch nonstop? 23:15:48 <SmatZ> Ammler: did you notice any changes? 23:15:53 <SmatZ> there shouldn't be any 23:15:56 <Ammler> yeah, trains stop now 23:16:07 <Ammler> at stations, which aren't in the order list 23:17:07 <SmatZ> Ammler: you probably know, Progman did the patch you were asking for : http://bugs.openttd.org/task/570 23:17:32 <Ammler> SmatZ: of course, already in use 23:17:36 <Ammler> I:-) 23:17:46 <SmatZ> :-) 23:17:59 <Ammler> I hope, will go to trunk, too, so I can use nightlies :-) 23:18:00 <Rubidium> Ammler: what version are you using? 23:18:19 <Ammler> 12594 23:18:27 <Ammler> Rubidium: should we update? 23:18:49 <Rubidium> lets say that trunk's kinda unstable lately 23:19:25 <Ammler> :-) 23:19:56 <Ammler> its like it has to be after branching 23:34:16 <Ammler> Rubidium: works fine with current nightly 23:34:19 <Ammler> thanks 23:43:05 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Other people's death, the answer to all my problems.] 23:47:12 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:57:12 <Ammler> good night all 23:58:41 *** planetmaker [~chatzilla@Fd26d.f.ppp-pool.de] has quit [Quit: Good bye!] 23:58:53 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.172] has joined #openttd