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peer] 12:10:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80901.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80A30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:22:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:23:41 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.3.113.229] has joined #openttd 12:28:33 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 12:31:40 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:31:50 <Roujin> hi there 12:32:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.203.209] has joined #openttd 12:32:59 <SmatZ> hello Roujin 12:33:37 <SmatZ> Roujin about FS#2026, did you read http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Coding_style ? 12:33:58 <Roujin> hmm, yes, did I miss something? 12:34:25 <SmatZ> maybe it is not clearly mentioned there 12:34:26 <Roujin> oh the enum patch 12:34:47 <SmatZ> but enums, static variables etc. should be commented with ///< 12:35:50 *** thgergo [~Administr@81.183.161.100] has joined #openttd 12:36:15 <SmatZ> just have a look at other places where enums are commented :) 12:37:15 <SmatZ> but that's not really important 12:37:56 <Roujin> well I did comment the widget definition of the window, stating which is the corresponding enum value 12:38:40 <SmatZ> + TTW_BUTTONS_START, // start of pushable buttons 12:38:47 <SmatZ> really not important 12:38:50 <SmatZ> and maybe I am wrong 12:38:52 <SmatZ> :-) 12:38:57 <SmatZ> but I would use ///< there 12:39:26 <Roujin> okay.. has that to do with the automatic documentation, or is it just convention? 12:39:44 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.166.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:52 <Ammler> Roujin: the ingame rivers don't work with current trunk anymore :-( . Would be really nice, if you could take a look on it. ;-) 12:40:06 <Roujin> Ammler: noted 12:40:13 <Ammler> :-) 12:40:20 <Ammler> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1884 12:40:41 <planetmaker> ha :) Thx! 12:41:34 <planetmaker> [02:52] <SmatZ> my personal opinion is that YAPP will be in 0.7, and it will be merged rather soon... this summer I would say <-- can you give a better guestimate? 12:41:54 <planetmaker> hello, btw :) 12:42:09 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.217.113] has joined #openttd 12:42:11 <hylje> yay! 12:42:18 <hylje> it will be merged YESTERDAY 12:42:28 <Roujin> Ammler: is that the newest you have? 400 revs difference, ugh ^^ 12:42:32 <planetmaker> lool :) 12:42:46 <planetmaker> roujin: look in my wwottdgd thread. There's a newer one... 12:42:57 <planetmaker> I think I have something around r13126 12:43:07 <SmatZ> planetmaker: hello, I can't :) 12:43:17 <SmatZ> I really don't know 12:43:20 <ooo4tom> do i understand correctly, YAPP is becoming to trunk ? 12:43:21 <Ammler> Roujin: It was quite your patch there, I only removed debug.h 12:43:33 <Ammler> :-) 12:44:00 <SmatZ> but I think devs will have more time over summer 12:44:01 <planetmaker> hehe :) People (including me) start to pester around with yapp and trunk :) 12:44:10 <Roujin> SmatZ: that happens when you promise something :P 12:44:30 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 12:44:33 <Ammler> SmatZ: is not the first, peter1138 spoke about it too :-) 12:45:14 <SmatZ> I didn't promise anything, I just said my opinion :) 12:45:25 <Roujin> SmatZ: the wiki indeed does not say the point you mentioned precisely. Should I add it? 12:45:27 <SmatZ> but people understood it is a promise :-x 12:45:51 <Ammler> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=692290#p692290 12:45:57 * SmatZ shouldn't say his opinions 12:46:07 <planetmaker> hehe. Give people the small finger and they'll grab the whole hand (or something like that) 12:46:12 <SmatZ> Roujin I don't know 12:46:15 <SmatZ> hehe 12:46:43 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 12:47:07 <SmatZ> Roujin it would be good to have a look how doxygen understands ///< and // 12:48:06 <Ammler> Roujin: the ingame rivers had only offset hunks until the class conversion, so it wasn't worth for posting a updated patch. 12:48:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.203.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:39 <Ammler> SmatZ: did you try something with region GRFs already? 12:50:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.199.67] has joined #openttd 12:50:25 <SmatZ> Ammler: no 12:51:02 <SmatZ> I think I said "everything is possible" but also "it would need complex changes" or so :) 12:51:24 <Ammler> like dynamic engine pool 12:51:26 <planetmaker> ^^selective hearing is one of my strengths :) 12:52:57 <Roujin> SmatZ: I figure doxygen reads ///< comments as comments regarding the value to the left of the comment.. 12:53:39 <SmatZ> hehe :) 12:54:53 <planetmaker> honestly: don't let it stress you. Take it as praise :) 12:56:56 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.217.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:17 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.190.51] has joined #openttd 12:59:29 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@194.171.202.29] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:04:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.199.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:07 <peter1138> engine pool was quite simple actually 13:06:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.42] has joined #openttd 13:06:30 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.190.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:55 * Belugas thinks that the more people will pester about yapp in trunk , the less likely it will be. Like... reverse reaction 13:10:03 <Belugas> hello, by the way 13:11:17 <SmatZ> hehe 13:11:49 <Mchl> reverse reaction? that would be action, wouldn't it :P 13:11:50 <Belugas> and further on the matter, why can't it be already code-style compliant??? 13:12:58 <Belugas> Mchl -> action (pester) -> reaction (fuck it) 13:13:03 <Belugas> is it waht we want? 13:13:39 <Ammler> [15:05] <peter1138> engine pool was quite simple actually <-- something difficult for you? :-) 13:14:34 <SmatZ> ;-) 13:14:40 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@89.246.208.43] has joined #openttd 13:14:41 * Mchl was just making a pun... :P 13:14:47 <Belugas> region grfs? what's that concept? not the "all-in-one-climates", i hope 13:15:07 <SmatZ> Belugas: : for example, different towns have different building sets 13:15:10 <SmatZ> I like the idea ;) 13:15:16 <Ammler> Belugas: idea is manly different town and road grfs per region/town 13:15:28 <Ammler> i 13:16:36 <Belugas> ho... yeah... an old concept skidd and i worked on... the SmatZ's explanation, not the Ammler's one 13:17:00 <SmatZ> how far did you get? 13:17:14 <Belugas> words mainly :) 13:17:19 <SmatZ> ^_^ 13:17:35 <Belugas> i've watched the code a bit, tried to see what could define a town 13:17:41 <Belugas> surprisingly, not much 13:17:52 <Belugas> than a lot of thinking 13:21:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:11 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:22:48 <Belugas> i still like the idea, just... so... far... away... 13:22:52 <Ammler> Belugas: you think, it's too difficult to make it general for all types, houses, industries, roads vehicels etc..., and then you could also make "all climates in one" too :-) 13:23:31 <Belugas> cannot parse that 13:24:09 <Belugas> what the hell are you talking about 13:24:35 <planetmaker> I think the idea was: a general region concept. 13:24:45 <Ammler> not only houses 13:24:55 <planetmaker> Then landscape, houses, what-ever could have a "applies to region xy" only 13:25:11 <Belugas> in my mind, a region is not a climate 13:25:18 <Ammler> indeed 13:25:26 <planetmaker> true. But it *could* 13:25:29 <Belugas> no 13:25:33 <Belugas> it's absurd 13:25:49 <Ammler> you could then replace the terrain sprites 13:25:53 <planetmaker> Yes. But technically, the concept is the same. 13:25:59 <Belugas> no 13:26:04 <Belugas> absolutely not 13:26:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:27 <Belugas> and that is the proof you have no idea at all what it implies, technically 13:26:44 <planetmaker> oh well... I don't claim I do. 13:26:58 <Belugas> [09:24] <planetmaker> Yes. But technically, the concept is the same. <--- yes you did 13:27:51 <planetmaker> hehe. Better I should have written: regions could be introduced such that... 13:28:13 <Belugas> a region is just a portion of the map where a certain caracteric can be applied. A climate is a wider region of the maps where all the caracteristics of all the game's objects are changed 13:28:15 <Ammler> Belugas: it would be "cleaner" the the hack we had with wwottdgd/1 13:28:22 <planetmaker> [15:24] <planetmaker> Then landscape, houses, what-ever could have a "applies to region xy" only 13:29:15 <SmatZ> Ammler what hack? 13:29:51 <Ammler> height > x = snowy / height < y and south = tropic 13:30:01 <SmatZ> :) 13:30:27 <Belugas> wich is completely silly to begin with 13:30:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 13:30:47 <glx> better have a clean "all climate in one" 13:31:04 <SmatZ> simple, but rather effective :) 13:31:18 <Ammler> SmatZ: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Image:Temperate-snow-desert.png 13:31:49 <SmatZ> :) 13:33:51 <Ammler> hmm, the patch from Truelight is removed :-) 13:34:10 <SmatZ> bye 13:34:15 *** SmatZ [~Miranda@edunat.felk.cvut.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:16 <Roujin> Ammler: which was the latest revision the rivers patch applied to without too much hassle? 13:38:50 <Ammler> Roujin: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=689865#p689865 13:39:36 <Ammler> but it was planetmaker, who worked with it 13:40:21 <planetmaker> Roujin: I think r13134 worked for that trunk 13:40:56 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=91251 13:41:26 <Roujin> okay thanks 13:41:43 <planetmaker> np :) 13:42:19 <planetmaker> Should I be mistaken I'm 100% sure that a r13057 worked, but I removed it from the forums. Highlight me and I'll put it there, again 13:43:16 <Ammler> planetmaker: the patch had only offsets, afaik? 13:43:41 * peter1138 overheats 13:43:49 <planetmaker> I think there might be one hunk failure between r13057 and r13134, but not sure anymore 13:44:19 * planetmaker offers peter1138 a place in the fridge 13:45:07 * Belugas offers a place besides him on his office to poor peter1138 13:45:17 <Belugas> cooling is going to be immediate 13:45:30 <peter1138> :D 13:47:39 <Roujin> the way canals rivers and oceans are placed in the scedit is so messed up :S 13:47:51 <Roujin> also desert/lighthouse 13:48:19 <Belugas> ? 13:48:30 <Roujin> one button is used for the latter, and "overloaded" depending on climate >< 13:48:37 <Belugas> how come? where? since when? by whom? 13:49:18 <Belugas> FIX IT! 13:49:19 <Belugas> nuicely 13:49:20 <Roujin> how come? just said it. where? in the editor landscaping window. since when? long time i guess. by whom? someone i better not criticise :> 13:49:21 <Belugas> please 13:49:41 <Roujin> oO 13:50:12 <Belugas> that remindds my SD card is not plugged 13:50:29 <Roujin> (stumbled over that while enumifying the widgets in terraform_gui.cpp :P see here http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2026) 13:52:20 <Belugas> yeah... i've seen and liked 13:52:25 <Belugas> only time lacks 13:59:07 <Belugas> svn uping 14:01:18 <Belugas> svn resolved town_gui.cp 14:01:31 * Belugas hates self inflicted conflicts 14:04:04 <hylje> ha ha conflict 14:10:30 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 14:16:16 *** Roest [~ralph@p54B9DF89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:18:24 *** Lachie [whitey@creep.bur.st] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:40 *** ooo4tom [~tom@92.3.113.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:26:01 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:27:06 <[1]Roujin> Ammler, planetmaker: I'm done updating. Where shall I put it? 14:27:47 <planetmaker> Hey, Roujin. Thx. Either add it to flyspray as an update or add it to the wwottdgd thread I'd say :) 14:28:10 <planetmaker> Or is there a seperate thread on ingame rivers? Dunno... 14:28:38 <[1]Roujin> nope, there isn't. added to flyspray 14:29:04 <planetmaker> Thx a lot. I'll give it a try to get it into the next wwottdgd alpha then :) 14:30:41 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:02 *** LA [~questionm@ip155.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 14:34:17 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-98-227-99-103.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:34:41 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 14:38:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> what exactly is the sense of this "ingame river" patch? 14:38:46 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:39:09 <Roujin> oo my pc just rebooted without appearant reason :( 14:39:17 <LA> perhaps building rivers ingame? /me hides 14:40:01 *** [1]Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:23 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:40:41 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause3: it's for people who can't accept that 'man made waterway' == 'canal' ;) 14:41:29 <Belugas> craving for realism but fucking it up whenever it's convenient :S 14:43:19 <planetmaker> he. Works :) Updated todays alpha2 of wwottdgd. 14:43:38 <Roujin> I don't care. They asked, I delivered ;) 14:44:09 <planetmaker> The main intention is to be able to recover vandalism or carelessness of players who destroyed natural rivers 14:44:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 14:44:34 <hylje> and arbitrary reroutings of existing rivers 14:44:48 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-173-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:40 <planetmaker> A river won't be split in part by some track works like it can happen now - and this patch is the solution :) 14:45:57 *** Mark__ is now known as Mark 14:52:12 *** SpComb^_ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 14:54:11 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:57:35 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:58:56 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm140.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 14:59:03 *** You're now known as SpComb 15:03:32 <Belugas> personally : make it so they cannot butcher rivers from beginning 15:04:01 <peter1138> i thought about that 15:04:17 <peter1138> but that makes no sense when you can flatten mountains 15:04:30 <hylje> invincible rivers 15:04:38 <Belugas> mountains cannot flood ;) 15:05:38 <Belugas> but yes, i do understant 15:07:29 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:09:09 <planetmaker> But if you can build channels, it should be possible to (slightly) change the course of a river, too. 15:09:19 <planetmaker> On the other hand, people terraform too much anyway... 15:10:58 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-212-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:41 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 15:15:51 *** Roujin [~Roujin@p54973B73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:53 <peter1138> canals or channels? 15:22:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> is there a difference? 15:22:59 <peter1138> ... yes 15:23:52 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 15:24:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:53 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:25:45 *** Lachie [~whitey@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 15:25:48 <Mchl> there's English Channel (a.k.a. La Manche) and Panama Canal 15:26:06 <Mchl> so canals I'd say 15:32:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, both translate to the same word in german 15:34:48 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-98-227-99-103.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 15:35:08 <Mchl> as they do in polish 15:38:48 <Belugas> not in french. we have "chenal" for channel, synonym of channelway 15:39:13 <Belugas> canal is accepted too, but has a very subtil difference 15:39:40 <Belugas> hehe and a very small channel is a "rigole" 15:39:43 <Belugas> wouhhaaa! 15:39:57 <Touqen> A man, a plan, a canal; Panama! 15:41:22 <Mchl> not to mention Channel No5 etc... 15:44:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0003ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13212 /branches/noai/ (16 files in 2 dirs): 15:49:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: introducing the ability to build trams. Use AIRoad.SetCurrentRoadType to switch to Trams, than all AIRoad functions will produce tram-objects. 15:49:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Note: please note that you need a tram-grf file for this to work. In all other cases AIRoad.IsRoadTypeAvailable(AIRoad.ROADTYPE_TRAM) will return false. Don't make your AI depend on trams, not everyone has a tram-grf! 16:01:01 <Belugas> lunch time! 16:01:02 <Belugas> and... 16:01:05 <Belugas> OTTD TIME!! 16:01:18 <hylje> lumch 16:01:35 * Touqen wonders if Belugas is in his time zone... 16:01:47 <Touqen> If that is the case, I might have to move. 16:02:13 * frosch123 thinks if someone else would wallpaper his flat, he could code more... 16:02:30 <Belugas> since i'm in Quebec, it's very unlikely you're nearby, Touqen :) 16:02:51 <hylje> waa, canada 16:02:52 <Belugas> frosch123, bring the flat here, i'll do that ;) 16:05:00 <frosch123> np, I will just stuff it into the modem. (some kind of turning on the left side) 16:08:45 *** LA [~questionm@ip155.cab21.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 16:11:56 * Touqen is 6 hours away from Quebec. 16:13:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13213 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_station.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: missing @param 16:15:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13214 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_bridgelist.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: fix AIBridgeList_Length, as the max-length is weird (tnx Anton84) 16:20:22 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:22:30 <Belugas> Touqen, far enough so i would not bite you ;) 16:22:37 <Belugas> in the states? 16:22:49 <Belugas> toronto? 16:22:56 <Belugas> maritimes? 16:23:06 <Belugas> labrador? 16:26:51 <Touqen> States 16:26:55 <peter1138> tomatoes? 16:27:41 <Touqen> Let's call the whole thing off. 16:27:58 <hylje> blast off 16:28:21 <Belugas> so close from here, it's not even the States anymore :) 16:28:28 <Belugas> it's the middle-zone! 16:31:09 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 16:45:48 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-154-47-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 16:50:11 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-212-212.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:02 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host250-234-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:11:46 <Wolf01> hello 17:11:52 <Mchl> hello 17:12:18 <Touqen> hello moto 17:13:15 * Belugas welcomes Wolf01 17:18:45 *** pasky [pasky@2a01:b0:b0::] has joined #openttd 17:19:28 <Belugas> ho... a pasky 17:19:32 * pasky waves :) 17:19:43 <Belugas> rare appearance! 17:19:45 <Belugas> hello sir 17:19:54 <pasky> hi! :) 17:19:59 <pasky> so, how are things going? 17:21:43 <pasky> I'm wondering, is the generic tram set in svn, or only part of the nightlies? I'd expect anything in the nightly builds to be in the svn but it doesn't quite look so 17:21:56 <glx> only in stable releases 17:22:18 <pasky> so http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Generic_Tram_Set is wrong? 17:22:18 <glx> so 0.6.0 for now 17:22:44 <glx> it works in nighlties 17:22:57 <glx> but no grf is given 17:23:41 <pasky> ah so, ok :) 17:23:46 <glx> wiki is correct, it says "feature availability" ;) 17:24:43 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 17:24:46 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 17:30:11 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 17:31:41 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:02 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:09 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:10:32 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11DDF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:00 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:06 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 18:20:14 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:44 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::ea7:beef] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:22 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-98-227-99-103.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:31 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::ea7:beef] has joined #openttd 18:47:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:18 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5B11DDF0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 18:47:54 <murr4y> any lionhead fans here? 18:47:59 <murr4y> for those waiting on fable 2: 18:48:03 <murr4y> http://www.lionhead.com/news/webcamcentral1.html 18:48:11 <murr4y> 20:42 < Sam[WORK]> we are going to show Fable 2 being played 18:48:16 <murr4y> 20:43 < Sam[WORK]> the first public showing of the game ever 18:48:28 <murr4y> directly from sam, the community pet 18:50:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:50:58 <peter1138> traitor 18:51:19 <Mchl> what's fable again? 18:51:31 <Belugas> was not even aware that lionhead had a fable 18:51:36 <murr4y> rpg 18:51:40 <murr4y> from peter molyneux :) 18:51:52 <murr4y> the guy behind populous, magic carpet, black&white ++ 18:52:07 <Belugas> ho... steppenwolf... 18:52:09 <Belugas> nice band 18:52:27 <Belugas> or was it guesswho? 18:52:31 <Belugas> mmh... 18:55:08 <Mchl> i know to gamemakers by name: sid meyer and chris sawyer 18:55:21 <Mchl> *two gamemakers 18:55:30 <Mchl> other names tell me nothing 18:55:31 <bowman> meier :P 18:55:33 <Belugas> i know a few more... 18:55:41 <Belugas> peter nelson, 18:55:47 <Belugas> loic guilloux, 18:55:55 <Belugas> jean-francois claeys, 18:55:58 <peter1138> jeff minter 18:56:02 <Mchl> yup, Meier... my bad 18:56:08 <bowman> ken levine :) 18:56:25 <Belugas> jeff whitewhale :) 18:56:27 <Prof_Frink> John Carmack 18:57:03 <bowman> david braben 18:57:29 <Mchl> yeah... these I know too... but Ihave to lookup their names to attach them to nicknames :D 19:01:04 <bowman> fable felt too much like an mmo 19:04:47 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 19:04:49 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 19:07:15 <peter1138> murr4y: wow, it's photorealistic :o 19:07:31 <murr4y> :p 19:07:37 <murr4y> ok it kinda sucked :p 19:08:19 <bowman> hah 19:08:28 * peter1138 can't play fable as his xbox is dead :( 19:09:09 <bowman> thats normal, it was 4 years ago hehe 19:12:56 *** Forked [~kjetil@tester.vdsl2.no] has joined #openttd 19:12:59 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:29 *** thgergo [~Administr@81.183.161.100] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:32 <Ammler> Does someone know here Gotic, is that something similar? 19:15:41 <Forked> hello! 19:17:57 <Touqen> What the hell is Gotic 19:18:07 <Ammler> Gothic 19:18:32 <Ammler> http://www.gothic3.com/ 19:19:04 <Ammler> the only game benear ttd I played :-) 19:20:33 <peter1138> s/know here/here know/ 19:20:48 <peter1138> benear? beneath? 19:21:47 <Ammler> beside (thank you) 19:26:07 <bowman> gothic is at the opposite end of the rpg spectrum (the better one, imho) 19:27:06 <peter1138> wrong flag for english :( 19:27:29 <peter1138> looks pretty 19:27:38 <peter1138> always the first criteria for games ;) 19:27:42 <bowman> never actually played 3, 2 was great though :) 19:31:53 <Ammler> I still like 1 the most. :-) 19:36:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-102-138.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:42:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FC26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:58 <tneo> !save 19:54:46 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:55:21 <Prof_Frink> Is that something to add to the instakick list? 19:59:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F55BD1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:02:10 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:02:12 <dragonhorseboy> hey 20:02:22 <SmatZ> hello 20:02:31 <dragonhorseboy> how're you smatz? 20:04:35 <SmatZ> nothing exceptional :-/ what about you, dragonhorseboy 20:04:36 <SmatZ> ? 20:04:51 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:29 <dragonhorseboy> doing fine - just trying to see if there's a german diesel that fits the requirement I was thinking of or not ^-^ 20:05:58 <SmatZ> :) 20:06:58 <dragonhorseboy> if you maybe know I'm just curious for something for freights with light weight (3 axle or short-chassis trucks) but still able to work light fast trains as needed at times 20:17:52 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-137-201.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 20:19:25 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d0003ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19:29 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:39 <dragonhorseboy> which of smatz if you don't mind me asking - what kind of locomotives do you like in general? heh 20:21:39 <ln> http://www.savonsanomat.fi/video-kuva/kuvasarjat/onnettomuuskoneen-lasku(131978).ece#1 20:22:43 <SmatZ> dragonhorseboy: I don't have any preference 20:23:06 <dragonhorseboy> ah ok 20:23:53 <dragonhorseboy> me well I'll admit to that I just like industrial railroads at times (not just point throttle open and watch random landscape pass by) 20:24:03 <dragonhorseboy> so well yeah thats a lot of different small locomotives 20:25:17 <Belugas> for myself, i'd go for a Locomotive Breath 20:27:20 <Phantasm> Ãrr. 20:32:18 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: BBL] 20:37:47 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13215 /trunk/src/dock_gui.cpp: -Codechange [FS#2029]: enumify and comment Build Dock widgets (Roujin) 20:41:40 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7A164.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:43:43 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:44:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13216 /trunk/src/terraform_gui.cpp: -Codechange [FS#2026]: enumify and comment Editor Terraform Toolbar widgets (Roujin) 20:45:42 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c22.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:45:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:46:04 <ln> thedailybjarni.com 20:46:34 <SmatZ> ln: 404 20:46:38 <Bjarni> :) 20:46:56 <ln> SmatZ: i strongly doubt you got 404. 20:47:00 <SmatZ> heeh 20:48:43 <Bjarni> do anybody know a web site with technical data for Swedish trains? 20:48:52 <Bjarni> I saw one at one time but forgot the name 20:48:56 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49:01 <Bjarni> and I want to know the technical stuff for Y6 20:56:50 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 21:00:50 *** kryzen [~kryzen@AReims-151-1-77-54.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 21:00:59 <kryzen> hi all 21:01:19 <kryzen> i found a bug (maybe not) 21:01:26 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:38 <SmatZ> oh noes, a bug!!!1 21:01:58 <kryzen> monorail was hurt by gravity... 21:02:06 <kryzen> that's not normal ? 21:02:26 <SmatZ> I am sometimes hurt by gravity, too 21:02:31 <kryzen> lol 21:03:04 <kryzen> yes, we are, but monorail are different. 21:03:10 <SmatZ> :-D 21:03:12 <kryzen> no ? 21:03:19 <SmatZ> I don't know 21:03:34 <SmatZ> did you turn off the realistic acceleration patch? 21:03:36 *** Tekky [~chatzilla@p5493F143.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:03:54 <kryzen> you don't find a little difference beween us and a monorail train ? Oo :p 21:04:25 <kryzen> ho sry i forget see that :'( 21:04:59 <SmatZ> :) 21:05:22 <kryzen> i'll test imediately ^^ 21:05:26 <SmatZ> napodobne 21:05:28 <SmatZ> errrr 21:05:31 <SmatZ> wrong window 21:06:02 <Belugas> nice dialect :D 21:06:08 <SmatZ> :-) 21:06:38 <kryzen> what ? 21:07:27 <Tekky> Hi, I have a little question concerning applying patches with the "patch" program. The patch works if I specify -p0 but if I omit the -p option, it does not work. I would have thought that specifying -p0 would be identical to not specifying anything, since stripping 0 trailing slashes should be a nullop? This does not make sense to me? 21:07:55 <Bjarni> I wondered about the same thing 21:08:00 <Bjarni> but there is a difference 21:08:03 <SmatZ> "patch" is not developed by the OTTD dev ream 21:08:06 <SmatZ> team 21:08:09 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:19 <glx> I always use -p0 21:08:23 <Belugas> dev dream team 21:08:25 <Bjarni> you should 21:08:33 <Bjarni> Belugas: dream on 21:08:39 <Belugas> baby 21:08:42 <glx> unless it's a git/hg diff, then I need -p1 21:08:51 <SmatZ> "man patch" exaplains everything for me... 21:09:09 <Bjarni> Tekky: the only answer you will get from us is that to get patch to work then you have to use the -p option 21:09:28 <Bjarni> if you want to know why then seek info elsewhere 21:09:31 <Bjarni> like man patch 21:09:35 <Ammler> hmm, maybe you could create a alias patch=patch -p0 21:09:45 <Bjarni> or #patch (whereever that might mbe) 21:10:04 <Bjarni> Ammler: that would suck if you need to use -p1 for once 21:10:22 <Tekky> SmatZ: I have no "man" command as I am not using linux. 21:10:32 <Ammler> should be overwritten like other tools as ls is 21:11:08 <Bjarni> Tekky: then you could try google 21:11:13 <Tekky> Bjarni: ah, ok, thx. I thought I was doing something stupid and that the answer was simple. But I guess the answer is not so easy. 21:11:14 <SmatZ> Tekky: errr google 21:11:17 <Bjarni> you could google for man pages first :P 21:11:28 * Bjarni hides 21:11:48 <Tekky> I already read everything from patch --help 21:12:02 <Tekky> do man pages give you more info? 21:12:11 <Bjarni> usually they give you way more help 21:12:14 <Bjarni> err 21:12:17 <Bjarni> way more info 21:12:21 <SmatZ> like 21:12:24 <SmatZ> info patch ? 21:12:24 <Bjarni> man gcc is like a whole novel 21:12:29 <SmatZ> :-D 21:12:36 * SmatZ has read it once... 21:12:44 <Tekky> hehe 21:12:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:13:23 <Tekky> ah, thx, the man page of patch explained everything to me. If you do not use the -p option, then it strips all directories and only uses filenames. 21:13:30 <Bjarni> I once had a course where gcc and make was part of what we should know at the exam 21:13:47 <SmatZ> thats quite a problem 21:13:47 <Bjarni> so we got parts of the man page to read up on 21:13:52 <SmatZ> as nothing is really unified 21:14:07 <Bjarni> but it was a selected few pages 21:14:20 <Bjarni> and "the right way" is the way that works in the lab 21:14:24 <SmatZ> like switches and its meaning are different at different systems, different versions... 21:14:50 <Bjarni> that wasn't an issue 21:15:14 <Bjarni> basically we just needed to be able to compile using the libs and gcc we were given in the lab 21:15:53 <Bjarni> which means the task were much simpler than say making a makefile to make universal binaries of OpenTTD (which I had already written when I had the course) 21:16:19 <Bjarni> I didn't have much to do on the gcc/make introduction day 21:16:24 <Bjarni> :) 21:16:53 <SmatZ> :) 21:16:59 <kryzen> *to SmatZ* thx ^^ 21:17:10 <SmatZ> no problem kryzen :) 21:17:19 <Bjarni> basically the didn't demand that people knew it before taking the course and then we should all learn a minimum so we were able to solve the next task 21:17:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:17:33 <kryzen> XD i go sleeping... to another day ^^ 21:17:52 <kryzen> bye and have a good night. 21:17:56 <kryzen> all 21:18:04 *** kryzen [~kryzen@AReims-151-1-77-54.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 21:18:05 <Bjarni> a good night... 21:18:17 <Bjarni> how do you know if you have a good night 21:18:29 <Bjarni> either it's bad because you want to go to sleep but can't for some reason 21:18:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:18:38 <Bjarni> or you go to sleep and can't remember the night 21:19:30 <SmatZ> wat 21:21:16 *** k-man__ [~jason@ppp121-44-12-56.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:17 <Bjarni> watt is something you use when you measure power 21:21:19 <k-man__> if i build a station next to a station that accepts goods, with the new station also accept goods? 21:21:35 <Bjarni> have you tried it? 21:22:08 <Bjarni> if you by "next to" mean that they touch each other then they will end up being the same station 21:22:17 <Bjarni> and then the answer is yes 21:22:31 <Bjarni> if they don't touch each other then the answer is maybe 21:23:56 <Tekky> when you look at http://svn.openttd.org/, why are there some release numbers missing? For example. there is no entry for 13214? Is this because the commit was reverted? 21:24:58 <SmatZ> Tekky: no, there are more branches 21:25:05 <k-man__> Bjarni, thanks 21:25:12 <Tekky> ah, thx. 21:26:16 <Tekky> so the revision number is not branch-specific but refers to the state of the entire SVN repository? 21:26:50 <SmatZ> yes 21:27:07 <Tekky> thanks, I didn't know that. 21:28:11 <Bjarni> it makes some stuff easier when you know that one revision means something specific in all branches 21:28:31 <Bjarni> and not like cvs where the revision is file specific >_< 21:29:00 <hylje> or DVCSes where revision is gibberish 21:29:24 <SmatZ> hehe 21:33:34 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37ec0.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 21:33:49 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Of course, it also means that you can see r811152 in a fairly new & small media player 21:34:07 <Bjarni> yeah 21:34:16 <Bjarni> which is kind of interesting 21:34:33 <hylje> 8 hundred thousand revisions 21:34:54 <Prof_Frink> hylje: Well, it's in the svn of a larger project 21:35:00 <Bjarni> however 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