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00:02:14 *** Guest138 [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:08:50 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 00:08:50 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:19 *** DaveWorley [~dave@62.6.161.178] has joined #openttd 00:12:24 <DaveWorley> Good evening gentlemen. 00:13:06 <DaveWorley> Looking for a bit of help - you will have seen my thread in the forums - is someone willing to help me step through certain stages of this "build your own" thing? 00:15:30 <Sacro> DaveWorley: which bit of t'forums? 00:16:00 <DaveWorley> OTTD General Forum 00:17:13 <Sacro> hmm, i don't see it 00:18:04 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 00:18:29 <Touqen> I see the post about switching to ottd but worried about the pbs thread... 00:18:57 <Sacro> DaveWorley: i did a search for all your posts in gen openttd 00:18:59 <Sacro> but nothing found 00:19:43 <Touqen> He has a post on the first page of gen. 00:19:52 <Touqen> You're crazy man, crazy. 00:20:00 <Sacro> ahh 00:20:06 <Sacro> DavespaceWorley 00:20:53 *** kjetil_ [~kjetil@tester.vdsl2.no] has joined #openttd 00:20:54 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-78.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:21:24 <DaveWorley> Quite, Touqen, quite. 00:21:27 *** divoafx [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 00:21:32 <DaveWorley> How do I use this myself then, this patchpack from the lad. 00:21:37 <DaveWorley> roest.. 00:21:50 <Sacro> do you have a build environment? 00:21:55 <Sacro> and doesn't he post win32 binaries? 00:22:00 <Touqen> DaveWorley: Can you use BuildOTTD? 00:22:08 <DaveWorley> Apparently not since I'm using Vista? 00:22:24 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:40 *** Forked [~kjetil@tester.vdsl2.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22:40 *** kjetil_ is now known as Forked 00:22:42 <Touqen> Ouch. 00:23:07 <Touqen> My condolences. 00:23:07 <Belugas> Depending of your habilities, you might give a try at MSVC9 00:23:25 <Belugas> i think Lakie has managed to make it work with Vista 00:23:29 <DaveWorley> Please don't confuse me. 00:23:34 <DaveWorley> I'm a .. casual .. user. 00:23:35 <glx> DaveWorley: you can use it but not with the GUI 00:23:51 <Belugas> ho hoo... TV calls... 00:23:58 <Touqen> Why exaclty doens't the gui work in Vista? 00:24:30 <glx> dunno exactly why buildottd doesn't work on vista, but mingw should work 00:24:53 <glx> at least if the mingw/msys env is up to date 00:25:00 * DaveWorley watches this go over his head. 00:26:07 <DaveWorley> Right so... roest's patch. 00:28:35 <DaveWorley> Can I not just unzip this zip file here with "OpenTTD" application in? 00:29:54 <Touqen> DaveWorley: Only if it's a built binary. 00:30:03 <DaveWorley> We'll see in a minute, then. 00:30:06 <Touqen> If it's just the patch (.diff), then you'll need to compile. 00:30:18 <DaveWorley> it's an app, not a .diff 00:30:20 <DaveWorley> am i in luck? 00:32:11 <Touqen> Perhaps. 00:32:19 <Touqen> Extract it and try and run it. 00:32:24 <DaveWorley> We're about to find out, when Vista stops being a bitch. 00:32:37 <DaveWorley> Vista's extraction facility is slower than my mother over a hundred metres. 00:32:50 <DaveWorley> I just couldn't be arsed to get the WinZip out. 00:33:23 <Sacro> DaveWorley: if tis an exe should be fine 00:33:29 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B761DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:32 <DaveWorley> It is... Just pasted it into the OTTD folder. 00:34:34 <DaveWorley> HERE WE GO 00:34:55 * Sacro stands back 00:36:25 <Touqen> 1.21 GIGAWATTS?! 00:37:55 <DaveWorley> Go on son. 00:37:59 <DaveWorley> Get in. 00:38:06 <DaveWorley> I think I might make this lad a saint. 00:38:44 <DaveWorley> Thanks Sacro, Touqen. 00:38:46 <DaveWorley> Works a dream. 00:38:57 <Touqen> Splendid 00:39:37 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76F64.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:44 *** DaveWorley [~dave@62.6.161.178] has left #openttd [] 00:51:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke] 00:51:57 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 00:52:01 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:55:50 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:29 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 01:07:59 *** Grek- [~e.kantis@c83-252-194-35.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 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timeout: 480 seconds] 06:01:18 *** Mchl [~mchl@abee80.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 06:01:42 <Mchl> hlo 06:08:59 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B383.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:30 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489C2CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:31:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13305 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13039): Confirmation window sent both yes and no answers instead of just yes. 06:36:04 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:05 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest181 06:36:05 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 06:42:29 *** Guest181 [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:45:18 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:45:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:45:20 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 06:49:08 *** 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[~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:47:06 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:55:31 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfh178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:03:37 <peter1138> dih, shut up 08:05:58 <dih> thanks 08:06:24 <peter1138> quite alright 08:06:37 <peter1138> notice it's not called "openttd.ini" 08:06:45 <dih> i was more or less serious about it, because it stops other apps (perhaps in another language) to parse the ini file (when using standard or built in ini parsers) 08:07:16 <dih> static bool ini_save(const char *filename, IniFile *ini) 08:07:31 <dih> settings.cpp:384 08:07:54 <dih> :-P 08:08:12 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:08:30 <dih> peter1138: you wanna rather change all methods to say cfg_something? 08:08:31 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 08:08:37 <dih> :-P 08:08:48 <peter1138> get. out. of. my. head. 08:08:57 <dih> knock knock 08:09:00 * dih hides 08:09:21 <Mchl> I feel great disturbance in the force... 08:14:29 <dih> peter1138: i will appologise as i mean no annoyance 08:15:19 <dih> and eh... thanks for explaining! 08:17:28 * peter1138 is actually concentrating on work stuff :p 08:18:58 <Rubidium> #define Ini somethatthatlookslikeIni 08:19:05 <Rubidium> #define ini somethatthatlookslikeini 08:19:09 <Rubidium> problem solved... 08:19:57 <dih> thanks for that Rubidium 08:21:46 <dih> what is wrong about making it ini standard? (just so i may understand where the issue is) 08:23:00 <dih> http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/config_more_ini_standard.diff 08:29:53 <Ammler> dih: you could remove everything and just leave the line fprintf(f, " = %s\n", item->value);, can't you 08:29:56 <Ammler> ? 08:30:37 <dih> shh.... dont make it simpler than it already is, people dont seem to like it around here :-P 08:31:21 <dih> esp. as that is really the _only_ thing that needed dooing, as loading the ini file with = at the end of a line is no issue IIRC 08:33:50 * peter1138 is, of course, not doing it, purely because of the amount of protesting. 08:34:00 <dih> :-P 08:34:09 <dih> peter1138: dont blame you :-D 08:42:44 <dih> you know what - forget it, i'll just write my own parser :-P 08:45:41 <peter1138> haha 08:47:14 <Ammler> dih: don't give up :P 08:48:39 <Ammler> on the other side, the file is called .cfg, not .ini 08:51:39 <peter1138> :D 08:52:10 * planetmaker ponders on the actual difference between an ini and a config in terms of usage... 08:53:51 * planetmaker also ponders what's the big deal as most people care $%§ about whether there's a = in the cfg or not and those with a script would need it... 08:54:15 <dih> pm: forget it 08:54:15 <planetmaker> :D 09:02:25 *** SirBob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 09:05:33 <Mchl> now... shall I ask, why OpenTTD config file is not in XML? 09:05:53 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 09:06:26 <Rubidium> because XML sucks 09:06:44 <Rubidium> and then we would require even more dependencies 09:06:52 <Rubidium> which are more than likely not available on all platforms 09:07:39 <Mchl> I was just joking :P 09:08:15 <Mchl> could as well ask: 'hey, JSON would be nice for config file' :D 09:08:20 <dih> yes - but if it were xml and one tag was not closed....... 09:08:56 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:11:45 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:12:07 <peter1138> god 09:12:11 <Ammler> Mchl: the dicsussion is not about changing the format, just about make it standard with a small change. 09:12:13 <peter1138> amavisd sucks for memory usage 09:12:48 <peter1138> it must do something that upsets shared memory, cos each one is 70MB resident 09:13:08 <dih> nice 09:13:14 <dih> that sucks :-P 09:13:32 <dih> is that the old or the "new" one? 09:13:37 <peter1138> new 09:13:43 <dih> yuck 09:14:27 <peter1138> fortunately the machine has a gig of spam 09:14:38 <peter1138> and two cpus 09:14:45 <peter1138> heh, athlon mps... how quaint 09:14:50 <dih> lol 09:14:51 <dih> :-P 09:15:04 <dih> you could have a look at the av stuff from www.freeav.com 09:15:22 <dih> i am not sure it's easy to implement in mail things 09:15:27 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has joined #openttd 09:15:30 <dih> but could be worth a try 09:15:41 <peter1138> well amavisd is just a email -> av gateway thing 09:15:43 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-110-195.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:44 <peter1138> it does have spamassassin loaded in it though 09:16:50 <dih> ah 09:17:23 <peter1138> http://www.usenet-forums.com/amavis-user/217270-amavis-user-memory-usage-high.html 09:17:26 <peter1138> heh 09:22:21 <Ammler> peter1138: why did I guess, you are german? 09:22:27 <Ammler> :-) 09:23:11 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-185-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:23:38 <dih> Ammler: you did not guess, you falsely assumed :-P 09:24:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:33:16 <peter1138> no idea 09:36:40 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has joined #openttd 09:39:02 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has quit [] 09:39:06 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has joined #openttd 09:51:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:56:52 <dih> trallallallalla 09:58:46 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:01:53 <dih> aronal & 10:02:10 <dih> wird nie alt (sorry ln) 10:02:14 <Ammler> bored dih? 10:02:18 <dih> yup 10:06:57 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:08 *** Zorni [zorn@e177115206.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:21:19 *** Zorn [zorn@e177115206.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:19 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:29:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:30:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13306 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_gui.cpp build_vehicle_gui.cpp): -Fix (r8362): Pass engine list by pointer instead of making a copy of it. 10:37:24 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 10:44:15 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:44:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44:58 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 10:45:44 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-12-56.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 10:45:53 <k-man> do i have to do something special to enable trams? 10:46:09 <dih> yup 10:46:11 <dih> load a grf 10:46:23 <dih> nice idea would be to get the #openttdcoop grf pack 10:46:27 <dih> www.openttdcoop.org 10:47:44 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:50:26 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:51 <k-man> dih, ok 10:52:13 <k-man> what do i do with the grf pack? 10:52:52 <dih> you did not read the page where you can download the grf pack from, did you 10:53:18 <dih> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF 10:53:35 <dih> nor did you have a look at the openttd readme file 10:53:48 <dih> or as others like calling it, the (dont)readme file 10:54:01 <hylje> SECRET_INFO 10:54:18 <k-man> sorry 10:54:45 <dih> hylje: yes - that would probably do the trick 10:55:43 * dih is making a mirror of svn.openttd.org :-P 10:56:51 <hylje> for what reason 10:57:09 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 10:58:33 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46aaf.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:58:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 10:58:47 <dih> for one thing, to avoid being blocked due to the websvn 10:59:18 <dih> hello Bjarni 10:59:36 <Bjarni> hello dih 10:59:38 <hylje> huh? 10:59:55 <dih> http://svn.dihedral.de 11:03:06 <Mchl> oh my... which svn should I use.... so many options... :P 11:07:00 <Bjarni> use the one that will give you the source of the trunk 11:07:07 <Bjarni> so you can edit it and make diff files 11:07:39 <hylje> or alternatively use the various DVCSes provided (hg and git) and commit away 11:08:46 <dih> does anybody know the stats openttd.org gets out of the google adsense? 11:10:41 <dih> did not say i was going to make the mirror accessible :-P 11:16:11 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 11:18:02 <Mchl> So I'll use one which is accessible :P 11:20:37 <dih> :-P 11:20:58 <Mchl> man, I completly lost my adsense account data... 11:21:02 <dih> well - i could make it accessible 11:21:10 <Mchl> I had like 20$ there... 11:21:17 <dih> perhaps it could lift load from openttd 11:21:27 <dih> Mchl: trallallallalla 11:21:29 <dih> :-P 11:22:15 <Mchl> it's all because they didn't let me adsense and adwords on same google account... 11:22:32 <dih> haha 11:22:46 <dih> why would you want to add adwords? 11:23:06 <Mchl> I got a free coupon :P 11:23:10 <dih> haha 11:23:11 <dih> ok 11:23:45 <Mchl> is load on svn.openttd.org that high, it would need a mirror? 11:25:16 <Rubidium> not that I'm aware of 11:25:20 <Mchl> I never had any problems connectiong to it 11:25:33 <dih> well - TB told me to make a mirror for the websvn rather than accessing the repository direclty each time 11:26:37 <Mchl> are there any stats as to how many checkouts per day (hour/minute/second/century) are there? 11:26:41 <peter1138> it would be high with websvn accessing it 11:26:43 <peter1138> that's the thing :) 11:27:02 <Mchl> yeah... I suppose so... 11:27:30 <Rubidium> well... trac has used way way too many resources as websvn 11:27:30 <Mchl> makes sense 11:27:38 <Rubidium> but removing trac solved all performance issues 11:27:52 <dih> trac was running standalone 11:27:59 * Lakie checks it out only just before he wants to play it (which is around every week, however I'd imagine at the speed things change, quite a lot)? 11:28:02 <dih> i never had issues running trac through apache2 11:28:32 <dih> and TB said that access to older revs is intence too 11:29:12 <Lakie> Thats also quite likely. 11:30:10 <peter1138> do you svn up or check out the complete thing? heh 11:30:43 <Lakie> Me? 11:30:47 <Lakie> Just svn update. 11:30:49 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has left #openttd [] 11:30:57 <Lakie> Doing the whole thing takes too long. 11:30:58 <Lakie> ;) 11:33:39 <peter1138> good ;) 11:34:56 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 11:36:16 <dih> rev 6500 :-) 11:36:44 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:40:05 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B84423.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80AB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:41:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:42:24 <planetmaker> @6500 11:44:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F574E9.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:47 <planetmaker> @help 11:44:47 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: help [<plugin>] [<command>] 11:48:29 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 11:48:36 <Mchl> now, how do you get command list? :P 11:49:00 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:00 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest216 11:49:00 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 11:49:33 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 11:49:34 <Rubidium> Mchl: you don't 11:49:38 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54726.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:49:57 <Mchl> as I expected :D 11:51:33 <Mchl> would probably flood the channel :) 11:54:24 * Lakie likes the way that the cheat window hot key is automatically hooked by his ATi drivers. 11:54:31 <Lakie> Heh, not that I've used it though. 11:54:59 *** Guest216 [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:41 <Mchl> ATi drivers stole made one letter unaccessible in my Vista system... 11:55:55 <dih> a command LIST ? 11:56:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13307 /trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: Separate VehicleList and its two functions so only the 3 users include it, reducing dependencies on misc/smallvec.h 11:56:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13308 /trunk/projects/ (openttd_vs80.vcproj openttd_vs90.vcproj): -Fix (r13307): projects/generate... 11:57:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:35 <Lakie> Misc/smallvec.h? 11:57:42 * Lakie looks it up 11:58:39 <peter1138> auto-sizing array, basically 11:58:48 <Lakie> I see. 11:59:13 <Lakie> So basically like the std::vector. 11:59:32 <Rubidium> but better 11:59:37 <peter1138> yeah, but slightly different, and we know what's in it ;) 11:59:46 <peter1138> and we know the memory allocation policy 12:00:02 <Noldo> how is it better? 12:00:16 <Rubidium> no need to memcpy structs when adding it to the vector 12:00:37 <Rubidium> i.e. half the amount of write actions to memory 12:02:00 <peter1138> important as the viewport drawer uses it 12:03:47 <Lakie> I see, so a more optimised for perpose one, nice. 12:04:29 <dih> @list 12:04:29 <DorpsGek> dih: Ctcp, Filter, Format, Math, Misc, OpenTTD, Scheduler, Seen, Topic, WT2, and XMLRPC 12:06:07 <peter1138> yeah 12:06:23 <peter1138> although we've ended up using it in other places too where a std::vector would probably be okay 12:06:32 <peter1138> even then, knowing the allocation policy is nice 12:10:58 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:15:13 <Mchl> so there is one... 12:31:01 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-98-227-99-103.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:53 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:40:34 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-83-70.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:41:19 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:48 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-12-56.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:49 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:06:34 <echinos> I have a savegame that keeps crashing on me - if I start from command line, it says "Error: !Disconnecting train 13:09:43 <glx> savegame from a broken ottd version? 13:10:56 <echinos> no, stable release 13:11:19 <echinos> the savegame was started on the same install of openttd 13:11:27 <Rubidium> changed newgrfs 13:11:31 <echinos> nope 13:11:43 <echinos> I have 2 installed, but I haven't changed them 13:12:32 <echinos> It's not a huge deal, I was mostly done that game anyway 13:14:43 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 13:17:03 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> Off Topic: Any suggestions on good websites for HDTV reviews? 13:17:17 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> Trying to read up on LED DLPs 13:18:01 <dih> german or english? 13:18:23 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> I'd prefer english, but can read some Deutsch. 13:20:49 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> dih: Was assuming your Q was for me, apologies if it was not. 13:21:59 <dih> search for stiftung waren test ;-) 13:24:48 <Chicago_Rail_Authority> dih: Thanks 13:26:00 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:27:17 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:29:36 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:33:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:26 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 13:33:43 *** Chicago_Rail_Authority [~somewhere@c-98-227-99-103.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:43:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:51:02 <Sacro> Touqen: i'm in many places 13:51:21 <Touqen> I noticed. 13:51:29 <Touqen> You're like God or something. 13:52:01 <Forked> oh thats where he is hiding 13:53:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.206.24] has joined #openttd 13:54:03 <Sacro> hehe 13:56:37 * peter1138 has found out how to make vista usable 13:56:57 <dih> by not installing it? 13:57:05 <peter1138> apart from that 13:57:11 <peter1138> switched to windows classic theem ;) 13:57:14 <peter1138> *theme 13:57:17 <dih> haha 13:57:20 <dih> i always do that :-P 13:57:30 <dih> start playing about with office 2007 13:57:31 <dih> :-P 13:57:45 <glx> hehe aero is a ressource eater 14:00:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.210.210] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:13 <peter1138> i have openoffice installed, not ms office 14:05:49 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 14:07:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.152] has joined #openttd 14:13:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.206.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.164.108] has joined #openttd 14:19:14 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:55 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 14:24:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.164.108] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:25:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.130] has joined #openttd 14:29:07 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:29:07 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:09 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 14:29:18 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-101-64-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 14:29:40 <Draakon> hi 14:29:53 <dih> peter1138: thing with ms office 2007 is, if you were able of using any previous version of office, you will fail with office 2007 14:31:49 <peter1138> heh 14:31:51 <peter1138> it's gay 14:31:53 <peter1138> i tried it 14:32:04 <peter1138> actually it's not gay 14:32:05 <peter1138> because gay is fine 14:32:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.160.204] has joined #openttd 14:32:16 <peter1138> it's like a paedophile in the software world 14:33:52 <Sacro> Office Jonathon King edition? 14:36:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13309 /trunk/src/settings.cpp: -Fix: the difficulty settings from the savegame would be reset by the ones of the intro game. 14:37:32 <dih> peter1138: it offends little kids? 14:37:34 <dih> :-P 14:39:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.160.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:34 <Rubidium> dih: no it molests them... 14:39:57 <planetmaker> :P 14:40:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.160.204] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:40:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.206.230] has joined #openttd 14:40:55 <dih> peter1138: you feel molested by ms office 2007 14:42:36 <peter1138> god yes 14:45:03 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:47:19 * Belugas avoids from now on to mix god and dih on the same context... 14:47:40 <dih> :-P 14:47:48 <dih> peter1138: you may call me dih :-D 14:47:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.167.236] has joined #openttd 14:48:23 <dih> Belugas: 'from now on' what triggered it? 14:48:24 <Sacro> or one of his many alteregos 14:49:04 <Belugas> just realizing it ;) 14:49:29 <Belugas> and seen how long we can discuss on that matter... 14:50:58 <dih> hehe 14:51:38 <Draakon> nutz 14:51:41 <Draakon> another crash 14:54:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.206.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:42 *** Hendikins [~wolfoxout@vg101.vodafone.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:57:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.219.208] has joined #openttd 14:59:51 * Hendikins yawns, doing the overnight shift at this station is *boring* 14:59:56 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 15:01:14 *** M4rk is now known as Mark___ 15:01:18 *** Mark___ is now known as Mark__ 15:01:45 *** Mark__ [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 15:01:55 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:02:07 *** M4rk is now known as Mark__ 15:03:04 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 15:03:06 <dragonhorseboy> hey 15:03:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.167.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.184.151] has joined #openttd 15:06:25 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F56C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.219.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:02 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54726.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.214.47] has joined #openttd 15:18:18 * Hendikins installs all the bits and pieces so he can play openttd at work 15:18:25 <dragonhorseboy> heh 15:18:29 <Belugas> what a genius this Trent Reznor guy is... IN CRE DI BLE 15:20:58 <SmatZ> "Trent Reznor" ? 15:21:20 *** shodan [user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 15:22:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.184.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:43 <Hendikins> dragonhorseboy: I say openttd is a great way to pass the time when I'm doing back shift at a small railway station 15:23:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.208.30] has joined #openttd 15:24:16 <Belugas> SmatZ, better known as Nine Inch Nails :) 15:24:25 <SmatZ> :-) 15:25:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr2 [~Flex@89.246.211.178] has joined #openttd 15:25:51 <Belugas> try coding for it, Hendikins... 15:25:58 <Belugas> loooong hours of pure fun! 15:27:49 <dragonhorseboy> hendikins very funny :p 15:27:50 <Hendikins> Belugas: Er, no. This is why I work for the railways. 15:28:02 <Sacro> which railway? 15:28:09 <Hendikins> dragonhorseboy: I'm dead serious. What else am I going to do at 1:30am? 15:28:16 <Hendikins> Sacro: CityRail 15:28:41 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13310 /trunk/src/ (misc_gui.cpp osk_gui.cpp): -Fix: invalidate OSK when parent editbox changes (from keyboard) 15:29:06 <Hendikins> Sacro: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CityRail 15:29:15 <Sacro> Hendikins: i know of it 15:29:43 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29:54 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:30:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.214.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:03 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:31:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.208.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:09 <Hendikins> Sacro: I could alternatively say "Rail Corporation New South Wales", however my duties fall completely within CityRail station operations. 15:33:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.205.146] has joined #openttd 15:33:49 <Hendikins> The only reason this particular station is staffed 24/7 is the 5 sets of points in close proximity to it. 15:34:57 <hylje> switches 15:35:11 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 15:35:34 <Hendikins> hylje: They're points in Australian English. 15:35:53 <Hendikins> Just like it is a railway, not a railroad. 15:36:21 <peter1138> and english english 15:36:43 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-101-64-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008051206]] 15:36:44 <Sacro> and international english 15:37:11 <Hendikins> And just remember, there's three ways: the right way, the wrong way and the railway. 15:37:20 <dih> british english ftw 15:37:33 <dih> with a mug of hot tea and a drop of milk 15:38:00 <Hendikins> And a couple of biscuits. 15:39:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr2 [~Flex@89.246.211.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:39:38 <Hendikins> I actually don't mind this particular station. 15:39:54 <Hendikins> It just gets a bit boring if I'm stuck doing 10 back shifts in a row 15:45:10 *** Zorni [zorn@e177115206.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 15:47:55 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:20 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfh178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> * Hendikins yawns, doing the overnight shift at this station is *boring* <- well, if you were on the right side of the world, it would be the dayshift :p 15:49:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's so weird... lately i have a ghost in my keyboard 15:50:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> every now and then, there are random keypresses even though i did not touch anything 15:50:14 <Hendikins> Eddi|zuHause2: I am on the right side of the world. I live in the best country there is :P 15:50:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, you have everything reversed, even "right" and "best" ;) 15:51:36 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:52:05 <Hendikins> You're just scared of our deadly wildlife :P 15:52:12 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52:20 <peter1138> heh 15:53:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> hey, we had a living wild bear a few years ago 15:53:35 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53:37 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:54:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> but the pussies were too afraid, so they shot him 15:55:07 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:37 *** planetmaker is now known as planetmaker|away 15:59:53 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:59:59 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:01:32 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfh178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:02:02 <a1270> brb 16:02:06 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 16:02:47 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:48 <Belugas> i'll send my "pussy" over there... will make just a bite out of that bear... 16:04:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> i am certain now... he only quits to show off his quitmessage... 16:04:31 *** dragonhorseboy [~dragonhor@modemcable147.26-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 16:04:52 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.65.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13:00 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:02 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 16:13:44 *** Tim [~chatzilla@p5090A45E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:05 *** Tim [~chatzilla@p5090A45E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:16:27 <a1270> Eddi|zuHause2, actually i was watching wireshark and saw i wasn't connected to here via ssl. 16:16:32 * a1270 has no life 16:20:10 * Belugas has too much of it, and sends a few to a1270 16:20:55 <peter1138> what the hell is a life? 16:22:46 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:25:09 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:58 <Mchl> a magazine apparently 16:30:13 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:30:23 <Mchl> available at www.life.com 16:30:59 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-178-98.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 16:32:23 <Digitalfox> Great Foxmarks finally support Firefox 3 =0 Now I can see what all the noise about FF3 is =0 16:33:35 <SmatZ> do Digitalmarks support Digitalfox ? 16:33:58 <Digitalfox> SmatZ lol =0 16:34:09 <Mchl> and Firebug 1.2.0 b1 also works fine at last 16:34:13 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:35:02 <Digitalfox> It's just nice to see the extensions finally working 16:35:23 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:39 <Sacro> god dmanit 16:35:43 <Sacro> i seem to be capitalising like a german 16:36:06 <Mchl> do You? 16:36:50 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499F56C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38:22 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54726.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:38:39 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm117.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:44 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:42:02 <dih> <peter1138> [18:20:55] what the hell is a life? <-- as soon as you start grunting at someone wanting an = sign at the end of a apparently not ini file 16:42:34 <dih> "things" without a life just "work" 16:42:41 <Sacro> Mchl: Yes, I Do 16:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Mchl> do You? <- very subtile ;) 16:44:36 <Sacro> subtile? 16:45:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13311 /trunk/src/ (industry_gui.cpp lang/english.txt): 16:45:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Use GUIList for the industry directory window 16:45:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Replaced the four sort buttons by a dropdown 16:45:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Reduced the default window size 16:45:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever 16:46:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> german word is "subtil"... it's not my fault that the english people can't write corretcly ;) 16:46:48 <Sacro> subtle :p 16:47:55 <Belugas> [12:40] <dih> "things" without a life just "work" <-- "devs" without a life just "dev" 16:50:40 <Hendikins> Hrm. I think my #1 problem playing ottd is that I try to be too elegant. 16:51:25 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13312 /trunk/src/lang/ (38 files in 2 dirs): -Update: apply english.txt changes from r13311 to other languages 16:51:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> Hendikins: i know that problem. 16:51:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> PBS helps a great deal ;) 16:52:41 *** kjetil_ [~kjetil@tester.vdsl2.no] has joined #openttd 16:53:34 <Hendikins> Nothing wrong with being elegant, but it is easy to overdo it 16:54:47 *** Forked [~kjetil@tester.vdsl2.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:54:47 *** kjetil_ is now known as Forked 16:58:36 <Belugas> dih, can you turn off you svn stuff for a moment please? 16:59:07 <Belugas> ping dih 16:59:08 <Belugas> ping dih 16:59:09 <Belugas> ping dih 16:59:25 <Ammler> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/ottdc/svn-trunk/src/yapf/yapf_ship.cpp', needed by `yapf/yapf_ship.d'. Stop 16:59:45 <Belugas> heheh and who said "you silent bunch" yesterday? the silent one! 17:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> silence! 17:00:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> i kill you! 17:00:10 <Belugas> dare!! 17:00:31 <Ammler> Belugas: ban the ip :-) 17:01:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> i go on strike! 17:01:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> i won't play any openttd until YAPP is in trunk 17:01:33 <Ammler> :-) 17:01:48 <Ammler> then your strike is not that long 17:02:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> it does not need to be, as long as it fulfils the purpose ;) 17:02:44 <Ammler> maybe you should also not eat at that time 17:03:44 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause2 : http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/photos/dare_to_complain.PNG 17:03:49 <Belugas> ;) 17:04:06 * Forked is a big fan of the Care Factory 17:04:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> which brings me back to the above lines :p 17:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> this is a hell of a "backfire" :p 17:05:15 <Belugas> :D 17:06:47 * hylje sends a care pack to Forked 17:06:56 <Ammler> [18:59] <Ammler> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/ottdc/svn-trunk/src/yapf/yapf_ship.cpp', needed by `yapf/yapf_ship.d'. Stop <-- did I make something wrong here? 17:06:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF10.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:07:56 <Belugas> who knows what you did? 17:08:17 <Ammler> just svn up and ./configure && make 17:08:24 <Mchl> did you run configure? 17:08:33 <Mchl> then I've no idea 17:08:37 <SmatZ> did you run make? 17:08:41 <Ammler> :P 17:08:58 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13313 /trunk/src/autoreplace_gui.cpp: -Fix-ish (r13306): List was copied in another place the autoreplace gui... 17:09:46 <Ammler> http://paste.openttd.org/11235 17:09:52 <SmatZ> Ammler: works for me 17:10:37 <SmatZ> strange, maybe make clean first? 17:11:01 <Ammler> SmatZ: seems to work now 17:11:05 <Ammler> what does make clean? 17:11:18 <Touqen> it gets rid of the intermediate files 17:11:21 <SmatZ> removes all compiled files 17:11:32 <Ammler> oh 17:11:55 <Ammler> is that because I stopped make before it was finished the first time 17:12:07 <SmatZ> :-) 17:12:17 <Ammler> hmm, but I did that not the first time 17:12:47 <Ammler> I just forget that I need to enable dedicated mode on my VPS 17:13:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> why not put that in the ./configure ? 17:13:43 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: make clean? 17:13:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> or why ./configure at all after svn up? 17:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> ./configure is only needed once 17:14:16 <Ammler> yeah, I know 17:14:25 <Ammler> but I configured without dedicated 17:14:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: no, enable dedicated 17:14:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammler: it will automattically configure dedicated if you uninstall sdl :) 17:14:51 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:18 <peter1138> no it won't 17:15:26 <Ammler> I have sdl there to use it with ssh -x 17:15:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammler: sdl-devel 17:16:29 <Ammler> well, myself has no idea aobut it at all, dih did that :-) 17:21:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:01 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 17:21:29 <Ammler> autopilot fails after update to the new ini format too :( 17:23:45 <Belugas> don't write ini format then :) 17:25:16 <peter1138> heh 17:25:21 <peter1138> it's a cfg format ;) 17:25:51 <Ammler> well, I meant the new cfg, maybe it is something else... 17:26:24 <Belugas> yeah, a cfg format is different than an ini one :) 17:28:38 <Ammler> somone idea what the problem could be? 17:28:42 <Ammler> ottdc@mozart:~/svn-nightly/bin> ./autopilot.tcl 17:28:46 <Ammler> Loading IRC module 17:28:50 <Ammler> Connected to IRC server 17:28:54 <Ammler> Autopilot engaged 17:28:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host250-234-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:29:06 <Ammler> Starting new game named 'Ammler's Test' 17:29:10 <Ammler> Landscape is 17:29:14 <Ammler> too few arguments for math function 17:29:18 <Ammler> while executing 17:29:22 <Ammler> "expr (pow(2,[get_setting patches map_y]))" 17:29:26 <Ammler> invoked from within 17:29:30 <Ammler> "if { [ string equal "$arg1" "load" ] } { 17:29:30 <Ammler> if { [ string length $arg2 ] > 0 } { 17:29:30 <Ammler> set commandline "$openttd -c $inifilename -D -g $arg2" 17:29:30 <Ammler> ds..." 17:29:30 <Ammler> oh sorry 17:29:30 <Ammler> i liked to post that: http://paste.openttd.org/11241 17:29:31 <Rubidium> well... learn Autopilot the new format 17:29:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13314 /trunk/src/ (4 files): -Codechange: Switch EngineList from std::vector to GUIList 17:29:52 <Ammler> Rubidium: any idea, what did change for autopilot? 17:30:02 <peter1138> the config file changed 17:30:03 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489B383.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:17 <Ammler> but autopilot doesn't care about them 17:30:17 <peter1138> there is no [patches] section any more 17:30:30 <Ammler> only network and autopilot 17:30:31 <peter1138> that should be 17:30:33 <Rubidium> and no gameopt 17:30:37 <peter1138> 18:27 Ammler> "expr (pow(2,[get_setting patches map_y]))" 17:30:42 <peter1138> get_settings game_creation map_y 17:30:52 <Wolf01> hello 17:30:53 <Ammler> ah, the map sizes :-) 17:31:47 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest259 17:31:48 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:51 <peter1138> seems simple to fix though :) 17:33:09 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 17:33:31 <Ammler> peter1138: yeah, I try, If I can do that, it is easy, indeed. :-) 17:35:26 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 17:37:21 <Ammler> approved, it's easy. 17:38:29 *** Guest259 [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:36 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [Leaving] 17:48:59 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-78.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:57:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:22 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 18:24:01 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 18:37:52 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:38:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:56 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:01 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-69-78.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:53:42 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 18:59:16 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 19:00:23 *** mdv [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:02:51 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 19:03:24 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:04:00 *** neli [micha@82-171-80-171.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11:08 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has joined #openttd 19:20:45 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:47 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:21:31 <dih> gnah - something changed on console related src files... 19:24:16 <glx> yes, they have been splitted in logical units 19:26:15 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 19:27:27 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:28:21 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest271 19:28:22 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:22 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:29:52 <dih> yes 19:34:59 *** Guest271 [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:02 <Belugas> you're still working on that project? nice :) 19:37:23 <dih> thought i'd let it die? 19:37:29 <dih> i love the project 19:37:31 <dih> just lack time 19:37:51 <dih> and i enjoy hasseling TB when i lack knowledge... 19:38:47 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.106.144] has joined #openttd 19:39:31 <Belugas> :) 19:39:51 <Belugas> which means the poor soul is submerged by your questions! 19:39:54 * Belugas hides 19:40:59 <dih> hehe 19:41:06 * SmatZ hides Belugas :-) 19:41:10 <dih> there is a channel were him and i hide :-P 19:41:23 <dih> SmatZ: i did not know you were THAT fat 19:41:26 <Belugas> we like hiding :) 19:41:36 <dih> hide and seekers :-P 19:41:45 <Rubidium> #omgdihisannoying 19:41:55 <dih> ha 19:41:57 <nicfer> idea for a new industry: biofuel refinery, transforms grain and algae (from other new industry, the algae plantations) into goods (fuel) 19:42:13 <dih> i'll take that as a compliment Rubidium 19:42:39 <Rubidium> nicfer: nice idea, happy coding the NewGRF 19:43:26 <SmatZ> LOL 19:43:55 <nicfer> ideas for patches are better to discuse in the patch thread right? 19:44:07 <nicfer> althrough this is more general 19:44:14 <peter1138> the patch thread? 19:44:21 <SmatZ> #tycoon ? 19:44:31 <nicfer> no, openttd diffs 19:44:35 <Belugas> nicfer, what Rubidium means is that you do not need to do a patch, you need to do a grf for it 19:44:55 <Belugas> since we support newindustries... 19:45:00 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:27 <nicfer> I was talking if I am allowed to talk about openttd patches here 19:45:36 <Belugas> of course 19:45:39 <nicfer> not related to the new industry ideas 19:45:50 <Belugas> even related :) 19:45:57 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:58 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest273 19:45:58 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:46:44 <Belugas> just that if you would like to see your biofuel stuff, the best way to see it happening is by creating a new industry grf ;) 19:48:38 <dih> silly question here 19:48:55 <dih> would it not be more tidy to move console stuff in it's separate directory 19:49:00 <dih> and newgrf_* files too 19:49:10 <dih> there are so many of them :-P 19:49:20 * dih is just curious 19:49:33 <Ammler> :-D 19:49:36 <glx> maybe one day 19:49:47 <Rubidium> and break patches? 19:49:49 <Rubidium> no way :) 19:49:53 <peter1138> easier to get filename conflicts :( 19:49:55 <Ammler> dih is careful 19:50:12 <glx> peter1138: right, MSVC is picky about that 19:50:26 <Belugas> lol at Rubidium :D 19:50:28 <Wolf01> 'night 19:50:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host250-234-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:50:52 <dih> right 19:50:54 <dih> thanks 19:51:02 <nicfer> for example coal mines doesn't get built anywhere, they need coal below the soil 19:51:04 <Ammler> you can't have same names in different directories? 19:51:08 <glx> src/a.cpp and src/b/a.cpp output the same .obj 19:51:15 <nicfer> that's my other idea 19:51:19 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B82ED6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:51:38 <glx> Ammler: MSVC puts all .obj in the same dir 19:51:46 <nicfer> I don't know how to write it in english 19:52:12 *** Guest273 [~Dale@pool-71-98-89-155.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:16 <Belugas> i see what you mean, nicfer. YOu mean that coal mines should be built in regions where there are coal underground, and not everywhere 19:53:21 <Belugas> is that it? 19:53:25 <nicfer> yes 19:53:27 <peter1138> where is coal? 19:53:36 <nicfer> same with farms and oil wells 19:54:05 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-142-184.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:54:07 <Belugas> right now, the game implies that coal/oil/resources are everywhere 19:54:15 <Belugas> so, if it needs to be done, 19:54:27 <Rubidium> do not allow building primary industries and prospecting will only build them where there's coal/oil in the ground (that's how it currently is) 19:54:28 <SmatZ> hehe 19:54:58 <Belugas> it means that regions have to be defined when game starts, regions where it is likely to find resources 19:55:16 <nicfer> you don't build a farm in arid zones right? 19:55:25 <Belugas> not the same thing 19:55:35 <Belugas> look at temperate 19:55:46 <Belugas> what is the difference ? 19:55:55 <Belugas> it's the same all over the map 19:55:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80AB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:02 <dih> farms usually rely on pigs cows and wheat that is in certain areas under the ground 19:56:27 <Belugas> ho? mining pings and cows? 19:56:28 <Belugas> cool :D 19:56:49 <peter1138> oil mines :o 19:57:00 <dih> [21:53] <nicfer> same with farms and oil wells <-- that was in response to that :-P 19:57:05 <Belugas> even cooler :D 19:57:30 <Belugas> i think he meant by "farms" places where agriculture can be achieved 19:57:58 <Belugas> remember, nicfer is not as good in english as we are. so, it's normal he makes some mistakes 19:59:01 <Belugas> regions i have in mind for a while. still not sure if it's needed. nor how to do it without making the engine crawls 20:01:00 *** ln-- [~lauri@h11n1fls32o987.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:03:30 <ln--> hejd? ?t alla 20:05:52 *** Hendikins [~wolfoxout@vg101.vodafone.com.au] has quit [Quit: Any quit message, not matter how short, is a smart arse comment to those left behind] 20:06:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13315 /trunk/src/engine_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13314): Assert if no engines or wagons available 20:07:13 <ln--> Bjarni! 20:08:42 <peter1138> he's a myth 20:09:03 <Sacro> or amoth 20:09:17 * Sacro turns on the light 20:09:48 * ln-- was in Bjarniland/Bjarnistan today 20:09:59 <Sacro> netherlands? 20:10:20 <ln--> almost correct, but so wrong. 20:11:38 <Mchl> ln: did you take pictures of ferries? 20:12:01 <ln--> we used the bridges after all. 20:12:25 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: Goodbye.] 20:13:22 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 20:13:22 <Mchl> don't tell Bjarni 20:13:36 <Mchl> he thinks that people using bridges are not clever ;) 20:13:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13316 /trunk/src/news_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move some functions around to make them grouped more logically. 20:14:13 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 20:14:27 <Mchl> am joking of course 20:16:32 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 20:18:26 <Bjarni> <ln--> we used the bridges after all. <-- the ferry is half price 20:21:20 <Belugas> [16:11] <Mchl> he thinks that people using bridges are not clever ;) <-- /me stops working on bridges than... 20:21:54 <ln> Bjarni: I believe that, but my dad insisted using the bridges and he was the one who paid, so what can you do... 20:23:01 <Mchl> was he the one, who was driving? 20:23:15 <Bjarni> hmm 20:23:37 <Bjarni> looks like the ferries just increased the prices due to oil prices while the bridge remained the same 20:23:58 <Mchl> bridge management is not clever enough 20:24:16 <Mchl> cars driving on bridge are using fuel made from oil 20:24:22 <Mchl> thus the price should be increased 20:24:26 <Mchl> :D 20:24:28 <Bjarni> :) 20:26:30 *** jez [tumbler@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:26:32 <jez> Man 20:26:40 <jez> Monica Bellucci is the sexiest thing in the world 20:27:00 <jez> http://www.sexiest-celebrities.com/files/monica_bellucci_movies0041.jpg 20:27:03 <jez> *dreamy sigh* 20:27:07 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:27:38 <Bjarni> now the prices totally shifted 20:27:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i was about to write "what an odd thing to say right after joining such a channel", but then i realized it was jez i was talking about... 20:27:42 <Mchl> she's the second actually 20:28:03 <jez> Eddi|zuHause2: good realization 20:28:25 <Bjarni> one ferry line takes 275 for one way, the bridge takes 260 and the other ferry line will not sell you a one way ticket but sells return tickets for 305 20:28:50 <jez> if i was gay, Monica Bellucci would make me straight 20:29:02 <jez> i'm not, though, so she just makes me oversexed 20:29:16 <Bjarni> that's called horny 20:29:50 <jez> nah, it's the level beyond that 20:30:02 <ln> Mchl: yes, he was 20:30:05 <jez> there's horny, then there's this feeling you sometimes get when you see something so incredibly sexy it takes over you 20:30:09 <jez> i get that with her 20:30:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is nothing in that picture that would make me any kind of more attracted than any other woman... 20:31:09 <jez> mad... 20:31:11 <Bjarni> wow... 20:31:16 <ln> Bjarni: bridges were 468 20:31:21 <ln> d'ogh 20:31:23 <ln> 465 20:31:25 <Bjarni> Scandlines are really cheap if you want to bring a bike/motorbike 20:31:32 <Bjarni> 21 DKK or 40 for a return ticket 20:31:35 <jez> Eddi|zuHause2: that is the perfect female form 20:31:43 <Bjarni> the bridge takes 145 for a one way ticket 20:31:44 <jez> as God designed, without flaw 20:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> she's way too skinny, and the boobs are fake 20:31:56 <jez> erm, neither look true 20:32:01 <jez> she's the perfect weight, and her boobs look real 20:32:10 <jez> if they were GG they would look fake 20:32:20 <Bjarni> <ln> 465 <-- funny... that price is not listed in their pricelist 20:32:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> they are actresses... their boobs are always fake... 20:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> on the same level as girls on the internet are guys 20:33:15 <Bjarni> ln: but I say that you wasted around 200+fuel for 50 km by taking the bridge then 20:34:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> man, they should start to build that bridge here... 20:34:12 <Bjarni> what bridge? 20:34:22 <jez> Eddi|zuHause2: not sure why you believe that 20:34:33 <jez> i'd say she's one of the women whose boobs do not strike me as fake 20:34:52 <jez> frankly, if they are, i want to shake the hand of the surgeon 20:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> jez: that only speaks for the surgeon ;) 20:34:57 <jez> heh 20:35:13 <ln> Bjarni: 465 = 205 + 260 20:35:33 <ln> Bjarni: but yes, i completely agree we wasted both money and fuel. 20:36:31 <Bjarni> why 205? 20:36:37 <jez> are you two lovers? 20:36:52 <ln> who? 20:37:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.brueckenweb.de/datenbank/bruecken/brueckenblatt.php?bas=3477 20:37:37 <ln> Bjarni: dunno, i think that's what the receipt from the first one stated. 20:38:27 <Bjarni> ln: so where are you now? 20:38:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> funny that they say they started in 2003, while there was no building work done yet 20:38:51 <jez> Bjarni: why arent you living together yet@? 20:39:00 *** jez was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [not funny] 20:39:00 *** jez [tumbler@87-194-212-214.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:39:17 <jez> ow 20:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> when he crossed the bridge, that would place him in sweden ;) 20:39:51 <Bjarni> oh really? 20:40:04 <ln> Bjarni: Mjölby. 20:40:04 <Bjarni> I just wondered if he stayed there or if he moved on ;) 20:40:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> what's the swedish word for "Gleis"? :p 20:40:32 <ln> 23:01 -!- ln-- [~lauri@h11n1fls32o987.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:40:49 <ln> Eddi|zuHause2: SpÃ¥r 20:40:56 <Bjarni> oh so you are close to Motala 20:41:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln: in the sense of "platform" 20:41:13 <ln> Bjarni: is that a good or bad thing? 20:41:18 <jez> what's the English word for "Gleis"? 20:41:21 <Bjarni> I don't know 20:41:27 <Bjarni> jez: track 20:41:33 <jez> o 20:41:52 <ln> Eddi|zuHause2: i think SpÃ¥r is what they use at least in Finland. (and i don't recall travelling by train in sweden, ever) 20:42:10 <Bjarni> it's SpÃ¥r in Swedish... I think 20:42:18 <Bjarni> and "Spor" in Danish 20:42:29 <jez> interesting fact: accents in French are almost totally redundant. the only ones that affect pronunciation are those on 'e' 20:42:40 <jez> other than that they're for decoration and should be dropped 20:42:51 <ln> jez: 58.4% of letters in French are redundant. 20:42:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:42:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:55 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:42:58 <Bjarni> <ln> Bjarni: is that a good or bad thing? <-- basically I use it as a landmark because I know where it is 20:43:09 <Bjarni> we have a locomotive that was built in Motala 20:43:24 <jez> ln: but they can be represented in an ASCII font 20:43:24 <jez> :-) 20:43:55 <glx> accents are not in ASCII 20:43:58 <Bjarni> ln: so you plan on going to somewhere north of Stockholm and use a ferry to Turku tomorrow? 20:45:00 <dih> tada 20:45:04 <ln> ferries from Stockholm to Turku and Helsinki are full tomorrow (as far as transporting a car is concerned), so we'll do something unexpected and go UmeÃ¥ -> Vasa. 20:45:13 <ln> (also known as Vaasa) 20:45:20 <ln> by ferry 20:46:13 <Belugas> [16:40] <jez> interesting fact: accents in French are almost totally redundant. the only ones that affect pronunciation are those on 'e' <--- congratulations. YOu made AGAIN a perfect idiot of yourself 20:46:45 <Bjarni> ln: that's a detour of like 900 km o_O 20:47:24 <Bjarni> how about just reserving a ticket on the first free ferry? 20:47:27 <ln> Bjarni: not quite, as the final target is closer to Vaasa than to Turku. 20:47:35 <Bjarni> ohh 20:47:51 <Bjarni> but still it's like 600 km in Sweden 20:48:19 <ln> Bjarni: but yes, a big detour, but cannot wait forever, not even a few days. 20:48:21 <Bjarni> however I guess the ferry is faster as the distance between the ports is smaller 20:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://maps.google.de/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.535018,11.827469&spn=0.120447,0.31517&t=h&z=12 <- on this map you see the A143 ending near Bennstedt (South), it is planned to extend that Autobahn towards the north to join the A14 near Lettewitz (North) 20:49:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF10.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you now want to cross the Saale [River], you have to take the ferry in Wettin (or less commonly the ferry in Brachwitz) 20:49:40 <Bjarni> ln: somehow I convinced myself that you lived in Turku :s 20:49:56 <ln> Bjarni: i do, my dad doesn't. 20:50:10 <Bjarni> ahh 20:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> or you have to take the next bridge, which is in Halle Kröllwitz (East), or near Könnern (very far north) 20:50:15 <Bjarni> makes sense 20:50:46 <ln> men nu mÃ¥ste jag go sova.. god natt till dom som förstor denna raden. 20:51:08 *** ln-- [~lauri@h11n1fls32o987.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51:09 <Bjarni> already? :P 20:51:16 <Bjarni> the night is young 20:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> all i understood was probably "forest" 20:51:37 <ln> yeah :/ ... woke up at 05:40 CET, expecting the same tomorrow morning 20:51:38 <Bjarni> wrong 20:51:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> see ;) 20:52:14 <Bjarni> it claims to be targeted only at the people who understands it 20:52:24 <Bjarni> nice disclaimer xD 20:53:00 * Bjarni considers making a disclaimer like that 20:53:18 <Bjarni> would be interesting to write something like that in Japanese and put it up at campus 20:53:27 <Bjarni> people will be WTF and wonder what it says 20:53:46 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B7894A.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:54:01 <Bjarni> better yet: use random Chinese chars and nobody can figure out how to translate it 20:57:40 <Bjarni> no comments? 20:57:51 <Bjarni> are you still trying to translate what I just wrote? 20:57:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have never been to a lecture about semantics-free languages 20:58:05 <Bjarni> no 20:58:16 <Bjarni> not at a technical university 20:59:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.ru-eschweilerhof.de/komfak/sfb/ 21:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> (have fun translating :p) 21:00:51 <Bjarni> hehe 21:01:14 <Bjarni> it's not as tricky to read as you might think 21:01:31 <Bjarni> the question is more like what hides behind the words used about languages 21:01:48 <Bjarni> like semantics-free language 21:02:11 <Bjarni> or Semantikfreie Sprachen if you like 21:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, syntax is how you form a sentence 21:02:45 <Bjarni> ahh 21:02:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> and semantics is what the sentence means 21:03:19 <Bjarni> ohh 21:03:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> so semantics-free languages try to achieve that whatever sentence you might be able to form, there is no chance it could possibly mean anything ;) 21:03:29 <Bjarni> so basically it's about languages without meaning? 21:04:10 <SmatZ> :-) 21:04:16 <Bjarni> I know of a dorm where somebody wrote on some woodwork something in Latin about the caretaker 21:04:27 <Bjarni> and he really wondered what it meant 21:04:38 <Bjarni> and asked people who knew Latin to translate it and nobody could 21:05:14 <Bjarni> 20 years later he retired and was told that somebody made up Latin sounding words while being drunk but it was damn fun that one of them sounded like it could be his name 21:05:31 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54726.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:05:32 <Bjarni> well at least they thought it was damn fun when they wrote it 21:05:48 <Bjarni> maybe it wouldn't have been so fun to write if they were sober 21:06:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> while on that page, the lecture about inefficient sorting is always worth a read ;) 21:06:17 <Bjarni> nahh 21:06:34 <Bjarni> I deal with useful stuff 21:07:00 <Bjarni> like trains, robots, power supply, atomic bombs, ships, navigation 21:07:03 <Bjarni> that sort of stuff 21:07:05 <Mchl> my friends havr discovered the ultimate secret of universe while being... itoxicated... 21:07:07 <Bjarni> err 21:07:15 <Bjarni> remove one in that line :P 21:07:32 <Mchl> they wrote it down, so they wouldn't forget it next morning... 21:07:45 <Bjarni> what did it say? 21:07:52 <Mchl> and next morning they read "the guy next door is an asshole" 21:07:57 <Bjarni> LOL 21:08:25 <Bjarni> at least they wrote perfectly well English while being drunk 21:08:38 <Bjarni> that's more than the Americans can do 21:08:45 <Bjarni> :P 21:08:51 <Mchl> that's strange, isnt it? 21:09:13 <Bjarni> the Americans can't write proper English while being sober either but that's another story 21:09:44 <Mchl> they seem to have slightly diffrent approach to grammar rules 21:10:00 <Bjarni> and spelling 21:10:15 <Bjarni> and choice of words 21:10:23 <Bjarni> and content 21:10:24 <Mchl> oh yeah... that one too 21:10:51 <Bjarni> and intellectual level of content 21:11:01 <Bjarni> not to mention sanity 21:12:19 <SmatZ> isn't your opinion affected by so many "songs" from America? ("black men talking mothafucka...") 21:13:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> speaking of sanity: http://www.ru-eschweilerhof.de/cs/fb17/algodat/skript.pdf 21:13:28 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064017.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:12 <SmatZ> that's a bit German 21:14:39 <Mchl> how about white man (a president actually) talking rubbish? he doesn't do this all the tie, but it happensto him far to often... 21:14:47 <Mchl> tie -> time 21:15:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> "too" 21:15:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: that's part of the sanity ;) 21:16:27 *** Zorni [zorn@e177233030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:27 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:35 <Bjarni> <SmatZ> isn't your opinion affected by so many "songs" from America? ("black men talking mothafucka...") <-- actually not... I was talking about the people 21:16:43 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:17:04 <Bjarni> Mchl: well.. compared to Reagan he is completely sane 21:17:47 <Bjarni> I think it was Reagan who had a whole lot of cards with stuff he should say and once in a while where there was a camera nearby he took at card at random and read what it said 21:17:52 <Bjarni> totally out of context 21:18:17 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:18:28 <Bjarni> one of the best is when he read it incorrectly... he claimed that 90% of all air pollution came from trees 21:18:49 <SmatZ> :-) 21:20:31 <Bjarni> one US President once returned from South America and declared that he learned a lot of that trip. For instance South America is not a country but consists of several countries 21:21:09 <Bjarni> one US president candidate once declared that he knew foreign affairs well. He could name all the continents 21:21:19 <SmatZ> hehe 21:21:21 <Bjarni> that wasn't enough to get elected though 21:21:29 <Rubidium> and forgot antartica? 21:22:32 <SmatZ> well, hier anyone can be a president candidate if he gets enough support (I think 20 000 signs) ... but maybe it has changed 21:23:22 <Bjarni> Rubidium: I think he named 5 continents 21:23:38 <Sacro> there are 5 21:23:39 <Rubidium> aren't there like 7-ish? 21:23:43 <Sacro> america 21:23:45 <Sacro> europe 21:23:46 <Sacro> asia 21:23:48 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:51 <Sacro> australiasia 21:23:54 <Sacro> africa 21:24:15 <Rubidium> lol ;) 21:24:32 <Rubidium> there are 5, 6 or 7 continents depending on the model 21:24:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:58 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:25:10 <Bjarni> North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia (might have been considered part of Asia back then), Antarctica (nobody important lives there so foreign affairs kind of don't care) 21:25:19 <SmatZ> how much planets are there in the Solar system? 21:25:30 <Sacro> 9 21:25:34 <Bjarni> but today we officially claim the world to consist of 7 continents 21:25:34 <Rubidium> 8? 21:25:35 <Mchl> pi squared 21:25:45 <SmatZ> Rubidium is the winner! 21:25:46 <Bjarni> <SmatZ> how much planets are there in the Solar system? <-- 8 21:25:53 <Bjarni> Pluto lost it's status 21:25:54 <SmatZ> hehe it was a tricky question ;) 21:25:55 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:25:56 <SmatZ> yeah 21:26:16 <Bjarni> and a whole lot of people complained afterwards 21:26:28 <Bjarni> they were absent when they voted on the status of Pluto 21:26:31 <Mchl> astrologers had their worst day ever 21:26:37 <SmatZ> poor Pluto 21:26:39 <Sacro> but it did set Holst right 21:27:00 <Bjarni> <SmatZ> poor Pluto <-- I think Mickey will treat him right anyway 21:27:05 <SmatZ> hehe 21:27:37 <SmatZ> similiar, at school I was said Mt. Everest is 8848m heigh, now it is 8850... 21:28:52 <glx> I though it was smaller 21:29:15 <Sacro> it gained 20ft 21:29:18 <Rubidium> 8844.43 without the ice 21:29:25 <Mchl> these 2 extra meters it's all the stuff people carried on the top :P 21:29:36 <Rubidium> measured in 2005 21:29:50 <Rubidium> in 1999 someone measured 8850 21:29:58 <Bjarni> some Icelandic scientists made high precision GPS readings of the highest peak in Iceland 21:30:06 <Mchl> now, I've a question... 21:30:10 <Bjarni> so it ended up being lower than expected and Norway is higher 21:30:19 <Mchl> how exactly is 0 ASL height defined? 21:30:38 <SmatZ> Rubidium: even more interesting :) 21:30:43 <Bjarni> so if the Icelandic didn't try to verify what everybody believed Iceland would still be the highest point in northern Europe 21:30:59 <SmatZ> Mchl: depends on base... 21:31:05 <SmatZ> there are two bases I think 21:31:09 <Rubidium> the latter was made using GPS 21:31:14 <Rubidium> which I don't quite trust 21:31:27 <Bjarni> <Mchl> how exactly is 0 ASL height defined? <-- that's a really good question 21:32:16 <Bjarni> you can't even say that it's the height of the ocean 21:32:21 <Bjarni> because it's not stable 21:32:27 <Mchl> just occured to me, that you can move mountain tops quite a lot, by moving this level :P 21:32:39 <Bjarni> and then I would ask "which ocean?" because they aren't even at the same height 21:33:46 <Bjarni> The Panama channel can't go through without locks (as originally planned) due to the fact that the Caribbean is higher than the Pacific 21:33:54 <Mchl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitudehere's some info as usual 21:34:00 <Bjarni> also they encountered other problems 21:34:07 <Mchl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude 21:34:15 <Mchl> were did my space go? 21:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Bjarni> <SmatZ> how much planets are there in the Solar system? <-- 8 <-- it's totally bad, because now the phrase "Mein Vater ErklÀrt Mir Jeden Sonntag Unsere Neun Planeten" does not work anymore 21:34:35 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:46 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-12-56.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> (it's to memorize the names of the planet, because they start with the same letters) 21:34:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> +s 21:35:30 <Bjarni> ohh 21:35:37 <Bjarni> well 21:35:40 <Bjarni> I don't need that one 21:35:42 <SmatZ> heeh 21:35:43 <Bjarni> I just know them 21:36:05 <SmatZ> I think there are two base sea levels, difference between them is 19m 21:36:31 <Bjarni> Mercury, Venus, localhost, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune <--- that's the order 21:36:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> the sea level is different depending on how far away from the equator you are 21:36:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13317 /trunk/src/ (news_gui.cpp news_type.h settings.cpp settings_type.h): 21:36:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: make news messages use a linked list instead of a moving circular buffer. This makes it possible to store more news messages in the history. Based on a patch by Cirdan. 21:36:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: the number of news messages is reduced by removing every news 21:36:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: message that is a configurable amount older than when it would not be shown in 21:36:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: the newspaper popup/ticker, which is e.g. a month for industry production 21:36:40 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: changes and half a year for subsidy offers. As a result the more important 21:36:42 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: messages will stay longer in the message history (if longer than 30 messages). 21:37:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> which causes big problems occasionally 21:37:29 <Mchl> there's thing called 'mean sea level' apparently 21:37:40 <Mchl> though calclating it is hell of a work 21:38:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, east germany used the russian reference point, and west germany used the dutch reference point [there's a third reference point in the mediterranean which is used by switzerland] 21:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> upon the reunification, they joined the two reference points of germany by taking the mean 21:39:25 <Mchl> jeez.. 21:39:41 <Mchl> I'd go for WGS explanation personally 21:39:51 <Mchl> seems easiest 21:39:58 <SmatZ> go go go 21:40:04 <Mchl> and least ambigous 21:40:13 <Mchl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WGS-84 21:47:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, there are attempts to synchronise the different height systems used in europe to the dutch reference point in amsterdam 21:47:44 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-185-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 21:49:16 <Rubidium> luckily enough most of Europe can't use the Dutch location grid system in the same way as in the Netherlands :) 21:49:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:50:12 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-12-56.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:50:35 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 21:51:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, they tried to build a bridge over the rhine between switzerland and germany, and the height systems have a difference of 27cm 21:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> they knew that when planning the bridge, but instead of substracting the height difference, they added it 21:51:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> so they ended up 54cm too high on the german side 21:52:04 <Rubidium> Switzerland must've been lower 21:52:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, the sea level drops the more you go outside from the equator 21:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> because the spinning forces are higher at the equator 21:52:56 <glx> coriolis 21:53:12 <Rubidium> but Switzerland is heavier per square km 21:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, that's a different force, glx ;) 21:53:30 <glx> too many forces 21:53:49 <glx> right coriolis is null at the equator 21:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> the coriolis force is the one that wears down one side of the track more than the other when going north-south (and back) 21:54:45 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37e13.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 21:54:50 * Rubidium wonders whether it's rotational spin of the earth around the sun has a measurable effect on the sealevel 21:54:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's also what causes the west wind 21:55:09 <glx> the moon has an effect 21:55:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, the moon has not a 100% effect on tides 21:55:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> the sun also takes part in it 21:56:08 <glx> yes 21:56:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's why the tides have different height during the moon phases 21:56:34 <dih> what happened to _icolour_def ? 21:56:58 <glx> disappeared 21:57:04 <glx> was a readonly 21:57:18 <dih> so - what to use instead? 21:57:25 <Rubidium> read the diff 21:57:59 <dih> yep - was just going to say that 21:58:31 <dih> and _patches has become _patches_<section> ? 21:58:53 <Rubidium> no 21:58:54 <Rubidium> read the diff 21:59:49 <dih> i do not even know in which revision it changed 22:00:00 * Rubidium wonders how hard it is to look at the log of a single file 22:00:03 <dih> Rubidium: you are for some reason being extreeeeemly helpful today! 22:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> is something he said not true? 22:01:14 <dih> i never said that it was not true 22:01:23 <dih> just said it was not helpful 22:01:29 <Rubidium> asking the question and waiting for the reply costs more time than finding out yourself 22:02:03 <dih> if you would have to look yourself, is it so hard to say that 22:02:10 <dih> and perhaps a wee bit more friendly? 22:03:07 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067124.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 22:03:13 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfh178.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:03:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> no. 22:04:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you have to deal with questions like that every day, you invent the most creative ways to tell these people that you are not going to answer the question ;) 22:04:17 <Rubidium> I'd be delighted to answer your question, but today I am not in the mood to go type the required svn command to find out the revision the change happened in, in order to type a svn command, a different one to be precise, to find out what the actual answer to your question is. 22:04:36 <Rubidium> took me 2 minutes to write with *exactly* the same result 22:04:45 *** planetmaker|away is now known as planetmaker 22:05:18 <dih> Rubidium: i did not mean 'arselicking'! but simply 'would have to look that up myself' suffices in some cases 22:05:51 <Rubidium> that's not "friendly" 22:06:22 <dih> more friendly... 22:06:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> but longer than what he actually said 22:11:39 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [/part] 22:14:56 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:38 <Ammler> dih: r13251 22:20:06 <Sacro> Bjarni: >:3 22:20:36 <Bjarni> ? 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