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00:07:07 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee20.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:08:06 *** nicfer [~chatzilla@168.226.105.9] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:06 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:12:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad38373.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:32 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 00:15:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41678.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:50 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-84-121.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:18:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13376 /trunk/src/ (newgrf.cpp newgrf_engine.cpp): 00:18:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Feature: Add access to current long year and date from Action 7/9/D and VarAction2 (23/24 or A3/A4) 00:18:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: Add access to (long format) building year, in Variational Action2 Variable 49 for Vehicles 00:26:18 *** Pikka|afk [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 00:33:06 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76C9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:39:52 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76BD8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:45:21 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 00:59:42 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet709.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:26 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:16:55 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:55 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 01:21:58 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:29:59 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [/part] 01:34:24 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 02:20:25 *** Pikka [~Pikka@203.63.48.165] has joined #openttd 03:23:31 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:23:31 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1240 03:23:31 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 03:24:52 *** Guest1240 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:33:12 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:35:17 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0DB66.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.exelor.de] 04:36:56 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:38:07 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 04:44:43 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad4623b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 04:48:49 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee20.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:49 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 05:45:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Belugas> MKay?? <-- it's a line from south park 05:51:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:57:01 <ln> yeah, that's what it's aboot. 06:07:52 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 06:13:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:18:14 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EAE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:31:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F555B3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:32:30 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EAE8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 06:34:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:23 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:40:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13377 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Codechange: Let 'long format' build year work in vehicle purchase list. 06:56:11 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:56:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:13 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 06:58:20 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 07:08:28 <Pikka> peter? 07:11:38 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:13:22 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:28:52 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 07:39:33 <peter1138> pikka? 07:40:04 *** iAN_ [~UNIX@212.223.130.65] has joined #openttd 07:40:07 <iAN_> hello again 07:43:34 <iAN_> good mornign to everyone =) 07:45:09 <Pikka> peter: " Let 'long format' build year work in vehicle purchase list"??? 07:45:37 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 07:46:14 <Pikka> does that mean that in the purchase list, "build year" = "current year"? :) 07:50:44 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 07:52:01 <Pikka> oh, peter, I remembered another feature request/bug fix I wanted. :) expiring wagons. 07:53:41 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:58:43 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 07:59:15 <LA> Pikka: Do both the NARS and UKRS change some base costs? 08:00:14 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 08:04:29 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 08:10:58 <peter1138> Pikka: yes, same as for 'short' build year. 08:11:12 <Pikka> oh 08:11:28 * Pikka wasn't aware that it did for short build year. must be an OTTD thing. :) 08:12:52 <peter1138> well adding it for short year fixed problems a while ago 08:13:01 <peter1138> but that may've been due to incorrect handling elsewhere 08:13:31 <peter1138> (i.e. falling back to the default group when it shouldn't've, or some such) 08:13:55 <peter1138> but some 0x4x vars work in the purchase list, and this one's pretty easy to add ;) 08:14:08 <peter1138> right, wagon expiration i have already coded, but not tested 08:14:13 <Pikka> goodo :) 08:14:18 * peter1138 wonders if it should be turn on and offable 08:15:08 <Rubidium> peter1138: you should start a discussion with the "real coders" about that change 08:15:27 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:15:45 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:15:58 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:16:04 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:17:34 <iAN_> How can I get a "transport rating" over 80%? Even that at anytime a train is loading smth. I just have transported 69% :-( ?! 08:17:44 <Pikka> Rubidium: by "real coders" do you mean MB and Oztrans? :) 08:18:29 <Rubidium> Pikka: I have no idea exactly who are meant 08:19:49 *** Touqen_ [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:20:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:12 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 08:21:35 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:23:22 <Rubidium> was meant kinda sarcastic though 08:23:28 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has joined #openttd 08:24:52 <Pikka> indeed :) 08:26:04 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:26:28 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:26:32 <Rubidium> must be raining quite violently where Mucht lives 08:27:16 *** mucht_work [~Martin@143.50.125.24] has joined #openttd 08:27:25 <Pikka> where he works, too 08:27:31 * Pikka is off home, later all 08:27:35 *** Pikka [~Pikka@203.63.48.165] has quit [] 08:29:36 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/unk2.diff < small cleanup 08:37:46 <peter1138> Rubidium: that's a sanctioned change; it's in the ttdpatch changelog 08:38:02 <peter1138> (16/06/2006) 08:38:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:38:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:38:51 <peter1138> it doesn't say if it's optional though 08:45:22 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has joined #openttd 08:48:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:53:24 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 08:54:21 <LA> can anyone suggest me any good site with hangar galleries? 08:54:41 <Ammler> LA: do you use grf2html? 08:55:09 <LA> I'm a little familiar but generally no 08:57:24 <LA> why? 08:58:05 <Ammler> you see then very fast, how basecosts are set... 08:59:53 <LA> You still want to complete your datasheet? :P 09:00:24 <Ammler> the datasheet should be generated automatically... 09:01:05 <Ammler> I did it with grep and copy&paste :-) 09:01:58 <LA> :) 09:02:16 <iAN_> Hi Ammler 09:02:43 <Ammler> LA: but the important basecosts are made by hand :-) 09:02:50 <Ammler> Hi iAN_ 09:03:01 <Ammler> how is ECS working? 09:03:08 <iAN_> bad :-( 09:03:24 <Ammler> I said, "do not use all at once" :-P 09:03:47 <iAN_> my sand mines have "just" 66% transported cargo displayed 09:03:57 <iAN_> even that 4 trains are loading at "any" time 09:04:26 <iAN_> I managed to build one station which has three sand mines arround. 09:04:37 <Ammler> well, there are many things which can influence it 09:04:59 <iAN_> trains have "full load" and the settings load one train after another 09:05:04 <Ammler> maybe you need vehicles? 09:05:36 <Ammler> read the ECS wiki and tt-forums thread 09:05:58 <iAN_> nothing with vehices. with vehicles I could increase the output 09:06:09 <iAN_> but they say I transport just 66% of the output they make 09:06:16 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-160-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:06:17 <iAN_> which means they decrease production 09:06:53 <Ammler> I am sure, someone else mentioned that in the forums... 09:12:56 <iAN_> can yoo provide me again the wiki-ecs link? 09:20:25 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:26:56 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38:47 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:40:12 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-64-250.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:43:05 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|SRA412 09:55:12 <Ammler> is there a debug option to skip a sprite in a grf? 09:57:27 <LA> Wasn't there some way to make a grf which modifies another grf? 09:57:33 <LA> You could use that 09:57:46 <Ammler> LA: don't think so 10:11:50 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 10:13:02 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm189.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:16:59 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has left #openttd [/part] 10:19:50 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:20:14 <iAN_> ok, found my problem. The rating goes not beyond 66% because my city-rating (appaling) is to bad 10:20:40 <iAN_> I spend a couple of money into advertising and my three sand mines went from 106 each to 490 each per month 10:28:00 <SmatZ> good 10:29:11 <iAN_> I have massive problems to deliver 3000 units of sand and coal to the glass-works 10:29:50 <iAN_> I think I'll restart and use two tracks and longer stations (and trains) 10:34:23 <ln> http://wuntvor.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/44/44cb4b91287cfcd8111d471867502a3cac861ab0.jpg 10:35:43 <planetmaker> ^ looool 10:36:12 <SmatZ> hehe 10:39:07 <iAN_> ROTFL 10:44:23 <dih> iAN_: you might be interested in reading some building guidelines of #openttdcoop 10:44:26 <dih> www.openttdcoop.org 10:44:33 <dih> they could be useful to you. 10:51:46 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:00:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:00:38 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:05:37 <Maedhros> hmm. i quite like this "ignoring people on the forums" feature 11:05:51 <Maedhros> Draakon is the first (and so far only) person to make it onto the list 11:05:54 <peter1138> draakon? 11:05:56 <peter1138> hehe 11:07:10 <Maedhros> hehe, yup 11:11:22 <LA> dw, he is like.. 12, lives in Estonia and has an understandment that he is correct.. He'll grow out of it :P 11:21:01 *** Zuu_ [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:22:02 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13378 /trunk/src/network/core/config.h: -Fix (r13375): compilation without network support was broken 11:22:17 <peter1138> dw? 11:23:04 <ln> deutsche welle! 11:23:22 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm189.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 11:23:52 <LA> dont worry 11:26:57 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ping timeout 9999999secs] 11:28:24 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:18 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B65DC8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:48:18 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:45 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:08:32 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 12:10:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.217.249] has joined #openttd 12:15:31 *** Zuu_ [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:21 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-168-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:24:17 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-160-186.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:30 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:27:20 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 12:35:09 *** k-man [~jason@ppp121-44-1-134.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:37:37 <iAN_> question: how to enable PBS in openttd? 12:37:48 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:38:27 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 12:38:28 <LA> by downloading YAPP patch 12:38:41 <LA> and compiling 12:38:48 <iAN_> erm.. 12:39:01 <iAN_> No. I meant how to enable it for stupid end users like myself? 12:39:03 <LA> there is no PBS is official OpenTTD as such 12:39:38 <iAN_> I found a "patches" folder in my open_ttd folder containing a "yapp_r12170.patch" file 12:40:02 <peter1138> patches need to be compiled into the source 12:40:19 <LA> patched* :P.. and then source must be compliled 12:40:26 <LA> buildottd will help you 12:40:45 <LA> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31823 12:41:17 <Ammler> or a looking for a patch pack like the one from roest... 12:42:23 <iAN_> I think I'll stick to pre-compiled, ready to use applications instead of breaking the code 12:46:08 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:46:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:46:42 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 12:50:25 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-121-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:25 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-168-215.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:34 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 13:05:04 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:05:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:56 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:19:29 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B789B1.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 13:21:01 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet655.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:22:49 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B65DC8.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:48 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:46:24 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:56 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489EF87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 14:04:01 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489DAB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:50 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41648.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:07:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 14:09:51 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: AS A VAGINA ONCE SAID: <yorick> SOMEONE BAN HIM] 14:10:10 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-222-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:46 <Zuu> iAN_: You know that you probably can find a pre-compiled win-binary with YAPP? 14:17:32 <Zuu> Look in the YAPP thread in OpenTTD Development section of tt-forums (.net) 14:20:45 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-fb4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:25:50 <LA> hmm.. I think I'll follow Maedhros and ignore draakon.. he is too ignorant.... 14:26:43 <Belugas> mmh... 14:26:55 <Belugas> you will soon find out the forums are a deserted place ;) 14:27:26 <Bjarni> heh 14:27:50 <Bjarni> whenever I look there I find somebody asking some question that they could easily have figured out on their own 14:28:00 <Bjarni> like "is window mode supported on mac?" 14:28:10 <Belugas> one word : L A Z I N E S S 14:28:22 <Sacro> another similar word: L A Z Y T O W N! 14:29:11 <murr4y> another related word: P E D O B E A R! 14:29:18 <Sacro> pfff 14:29:22 <Sacro> she's 17 now 14:29:30 <Bjarni> she? 14:29:33 <Bjarni> there is a she? 14:29:35 <Sacro> yes 14:29:38 <murr4y> stephie 14:29:55 <Bjarni> in this channel? 14:30:08 <peter1138> Sacro: that doesn't make it right to wank to pictures of 13 year olds 14:30:27 <Sacro> 13 year old != pedophile 14:30:50 * murr4y wanks to peter1138 14:30:56 <Bjarni> eek 14:31:44 <Bjarni> I would kick you for that but since you got screwed up ideas you might consider it a friendly approach 14:31:53 <Bjarni> which it isn't supposed to be 14:31:57 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:32:05 <murr4y> haha 14:32:17 <Sacro> talking of screwed up, here's lobster 14:33:59 <Bjarni> I saw a guy on TV who is a famous comedian today. He talked about his schooltime and about how he was bullied for being weird. Then he started wearing one of those Middle Eastern man dresses (I think that was his choice of words) and then he became so weird that the other kids ignored him instead of bullying him and he considered himself the winner 14:34:24 <Sacro> those man dresses disturb me 14:34:32 <SpComb> Sacro disturbs me 14:34:53 <Sacro> SpComb logs me 14:34:54 <Bjarni> Sacro disturbs everybody 14:35:17 <murr4y> disturb? 14:35:29 <murr4y> i was a week on vacation in dubai 14:35:33 <dih> yes - find a dict 14:35:36 <murr4y> there were sheets everywhere 14:36:04 <Bjarni> why would you want to go to Dubai? 14:36:15 <murr4y> oh man 14:36:16 <peter1138> why not? 14:36:24 <murr4y> my personal reason, my brother moved and lives there 14:36:32 <murr4y> however 14:36:34 <murr4y> dubai is amazing 14:36:38 <Bjarni> it disturbs me that you would go somewhere that hot on your own free will 14:36:53 <murr4y> i went in the easter 14:36:54 <Bjarni> <murr4y> dubai is amazing <-- amazingly hot, that is 14:36:57 <murr4y> so temp was perfect 14:37:15 <murr4y> sides, they have ACs everywhere 14:37:37 <Bjarni> yeah they use an insane amount of energy 14:38:12 <murr4y> yep 14:38:30 <murr4y> but the place is awesome 14:38:34 <murr4y> i thought norway was rich 14:38:41 <murr4y> wtf have we got, farms and cows 14:38:43 <Bjarni> haha 14:38:50 <murr4y> but there 14:38:55 <murr4y> they have burj-al arab, ofc 14:39:03 <murr4y> they have those palm islands with hotels 14:39:15 <Bjarni> they have the whole world 14:39:20 <murr4y> yeah 14:39:24 <murr4y> or at least they're building it 14:39:40 <murr4y> they have the dubai autodrome (i drove a rs4 there) 14:39:43 <murr4y> http://www.dubaiautodrome.com/general/content.aspx?id=106&sm=1058 14:39:51 <murr4y> best car ride of my life 14:39:59 <murr4y> jumeirah beach speaks for itself 14:40:03 <murr4y> and everything is just glory 14:40:07 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.36.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 14:40:09 * murr4y stops ranting now 14:40:40 <Bjarni> yeah 14:40:42 <Bjarni> you should 14:41:08 <murr4y> anyway, that's why you'd go to dubai 14:41:17 <murr4y> my brother and some buddies moved there and started a business 14:41:18 <Bjarni> you make more sense when you try to be evil 14:41:22 <murr4y> they're doing great 14:41:29 <murr4y> don't i make sense? :p 14:41:38 <murr4y> he has a nissan 350-z 14:41:42 <Belugas> you do, he does not 14:41:51 <murr4y> that costs a 3rd of what it costs here in norway 14:42:23 <murr4y> and it eats enourmous amounts of gas, but that doesn't matter since gas costs next to nothing there 14:42:25 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:42:41 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:46:14 <dih> 16:41 <@Bjarni> you make more sense when you try to be evil <-- or when he shuts up? 14:46:25 <Bjarni> that too 14:47:09 <murr4y> how dare you! 14:47:12 <murr4y> YOU WILL FEEL MY WRATH DOWN TO YOUR BONES, FOOLISH MORTALS 14:48:35 <SpComb> dubai sounds like a nice place, I propose that we move the entire planet's population there 14:49:06 <Bjarni> <murr4y> best car ride of my life <-- I tried a Lamborghini Murcielago.... It sucked 14:49:31 <SpComb> what, it was really hard to go in reverse with a trailer attached? 14:49:39 <dih> cht_work: 14:49:42 <dih> ops 14:49:45 <dih> gnah 14:49:50 <Bjarni> it felt like it had sacrificed everything for speed 14:49:59 <Bjarni> so it was noisy and had bad seats 14:50:02 <SpComb> and looking good 14:50:04 <Bjarni> and bad visibility 14:50:05 <peter1138> how're the autoreplace fixes going? 14:51:01 <Bjarni> I'm currently writing a report for uni... which I guess I should get back to now :/ 14:51:14 <Bjarni> somehow it's more important 14:51:43 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:48 *** mikl [~mikl@adsl.peytz.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:53:58 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 14:55:15 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 14:56:30 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@129.187.61.232] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 14:59:31 <svippery> Hm, Bjarni, what is this new yapp I hear about? 15:01:47 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:07:47 <svippery> Can anyone tell me whether yapp is part of the current revision? 15:07:54 <peter1138> it is not 15:08:16 <svippery> Is it possible to add for testing? 15:08:57 <Sacro> yes 15:09:07 <Belugas> you just need to pick up a pre-compiled version on the forums 15:09:11 <Belugas> plenty available 15:09:27 <Belugas> or, if you DARE, use svn and a complier to do it yourself ;) 15:09:36 <Belugas> compiler 15:09:42 <svippery> >:| I prefer self-compiled. 15:09:47 <svippery> I don't need your fancy binaries. 15:10:04 <blathijs> We need more of this kind of users :-) 15:10:21 <Belugas> i would not give one to you either >:[ 15:10:22 <svippery> Oh dear. 15:10:26 <svippery> What is the patch command again? 15:10:40 <Belugas> find yourself, mister attitude 15:10:51 <blathijs> patch -p0 < blaa.diff 15:10:54 <svippery> Oh, did I offend the French Canadian? :( 15:11:07 <Belugas> pretty much so yes 15:11:15 <Belugas> [11:07] <svippery> I don't need your fancy binaries. <-- like... duh 15:13:12 <svippery> It's the strangest thing, Belugas. 15:13:24 <svippery> This patch... it keeps changing a/ to b/ 15:13:29 <peter1138> -p1 then 15:13:31 <svippery> Woot? 15:13:54 <svippery> Uuuh, hax. 15:13:55 <svippery> Worked. 15:14:07 <svippery> >:D Now we're compiling! 15:14:15 <SpComb> make -j9 15:14:22 <svippery> Why -j9? 15:14:24 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 15:14:36 <peter1138> just in case you have 9 cores 15:14:42 <svippery> Oh right. 15:14:52 <svippery> I have none. 15:14:57 <svippery> Wait... I mean 1. 15:15:14 <SpComb> a zero-core processor 15:16:39 <blathijs> Cool, you just get the bus interface and memory controller, then :-) 15:16:39 <svippery> In consideration, SpComb, it's doing quite well. 15:19:32 *** iAN_ [~UNIX@212.223.130.65] has quit [Quit: Oops. Connection lost.] 15:20:48 <svippery> Hm, peter1138, it seems to be referring to a source file I do not have. 15:20:50 <svippery> pbs.h 15:21:10 <planetmaker> he. Then you didn't patch correctly 15:21:29 <planetmaker> make a clean revert and try again 15:22:41 <svippery> Hm. 15:22:47 <svippery> I got a lot of FAILED hunks. 15:23:04 <planetmaker> ^ in that case, you're bound to have a broken compilation. 15:23:17 <planetmaker> you must not have any failed hunk. Use the correct svn version. 15:23:41 <planetmaker> not svn version, but openttd version which you check out. 15:24:08 <dih> svippery: you should use the same revision that was used for the diff you have! 15:24:14 <planetmaker> ^ 15:24:20 <svippery> Oh dear. 15:24:26 *** Zorn [zorn@f054002122.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:27 <svippery> How do I checkout a specific revision? 15:24:40 <Sacro> -r $foo 15:24:40 <planetmaker> svn co -r <revision> 15:24:40 <dih> you like command line? 15:24:46 <svippery> I love command line. 15:24:57 <dih> then start using man pages 15:25:01 <dih> --help arguments 15:25:01 <planetmaker> or rather now use svn up -r <revision> 15:25:03 <SpComb> svn up -r <foo> 15:25:06 <dih> and in the case of svn 15:25:08 <dih> svn help 15:25:18 <SpComb> or read the red book 15:25:27 <SpComb> (or was it the svn book?) 15:25:33 <dih> it's a red book 15:25:36 <planetmaker> or take the blue pill ;) 15:25:42 <dih> :-D 15:25:48 <dih> "there is no spoon" 15:25:53 <SpComb> lies 15:26:05 <svippery> I have a spoon. 15:26:06 <Rubidium> +imagine 15:26:44 <svippery> Meh. 15:26:46 <svippery> I get the same error. 15:26:59 <svippery> I don't think yapp includes that pbs.h file itself. 15:28:44 <Belugas> right... 15:28:58 <Belugas> pbs.cpp in IN that patch 15:29:06 <svippery> Yes. 15:29:14 <Belugas> as well as pbs.h 15:29:17 <svippery> Well... 15:29:21 <Belugas> quite 15:30:38 <svippery> Hm... I can see neither. 15:30:52 <svippery> Aren't they supposed to be in src/ ? 15:30:58 <planetmaker> ^yes 15:31:00 <dih> pvippery: it does! 15:31:04 <dih> i used yapp myself 15:31:40 <dih> svippery: what is the error? 15:31:52 <Maedhros> if it didn't, no-one would have been able to use it ;) 15:31:58 <dih> hehe 15:31:59 <dih> true 15:32:02 <svippery> [SRC] Compiling effectvehicle.cpp 15:32:02 <svippery> In file included from /home/svip/openttd-dev/003/trunk/src/effectvehicle.cpp:28: 15:32:02 <svippery> /home/svip/openttd-dev/003/trunk/src/yapf/yapf.h:11:20: error: ../pbs.h: No such file or directory 15:32:27 <dih> you patched with -p1 15:32:43 <svippery> Is that a question? 15:32:52 <dih> does it have a questionmark? 15:32:59 <svippery> No, but people forget. 15:33:08 <svippery> But I am fairly sure I used -p0 15:33:21 <TiberiusTeng> ahh, finally got somebody here 15:33:42 * TiberiusTeng still working hard bringing NewGRF GUI to trunk 15:33:54 <svippery> Hm. :s dih, but when I do it with -p0, I get a lot of errors when patching. 15:33:55 <dih> svippery: find . -type f -name "pbs.*" 15:34:13 <dih> svippery: what revision ov openttd are you using? 15:34:17 <dih> *of 15:34:23 <svippery> 13374 15:34:36 <TiberiusTeng> but the New Graph thing just scared me off yesterday ... 15:34:36 <svippery> Since that's the version its says on the patch. 15:34:41 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:41 <glx> and patch worked without errors? 15:34:44 <planetmaker> and which patch (version)? 15:34:48 <planetmaker> ok 15:34:56 <svippery> yapp-v7.1_r13374.patch 15:35:10 <dih> what folder are you in? 15:35:17 <svippery> trunk/ 15:35:22 <dih> svn revert -R . 15:35:40 <dih> patch -p0 < yapp-v7.1*.patch 15:35:43 <TiberiusTeng> revert then patch -p1 < ../yapp-v7.1_r13374.patch (or wherever you put that patch file) 15:35:47 <planetmaker> so in the trunk dir you type patch -p0 < difffile 15:35:56 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:56 <glx> broken patch 15:35:59 <glx> it miss files 15:36:05 <planetmaker> o_O :) 15:36:16 <svippery> Someone ought to tell him that. 15:36:18 <planetmaker> no svn add src/pbs* after fixing it :) 15:36:21 <dih> or post the output of 'head -5 <patch file>' here 15:36:36 <TiberiusTeng> OUCH 15:36:47 <planetmaker> my guess^^^ 15:36:47 <svippery> diff -r eefd3dc28cd1 docs/landscape.html 15:36:47 <svippery> --- a/docs/landscape.html Tue Jun 03 21:54:07 2008 +0800 15:36:47 <svippery> +++ b/docs/landscape.html Tue Jun 03 22:44:33 2008 +0800 15:36:47 <svippery> @@ -376,29 +376,39 @@ 15:37:05 <TiberiusTeng> MY fault 15:37:07 <dih> that was made with hg 15:37:16 <dih> you have to revert 15:37:19 <dih> svn revert -R . 15:37:20 <TiberiusTeng> I'll add it RIGHT NOW, wait a sec 15:37:24 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:37:31 <svippery> Done, dih. 15:37:32 <dih> then patch with -p1 15:37:38 <planetmaker> hehe. Did that mistake once or twice, too :) 15:37:40 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:37:56 <planetmaker> svippery: don't. 15:37:57 <svippery> I'll wait for TiberiusTeng's fixed patch, dih. :P 15:38:02 <planetmaker> ^ :) 15:38:05 <dih> lazy skunk 15:38:26 <dih> svippery: at least give it a try 15:38:33 <dih> you can always svn revert again if it fails 15:38:40 <glx> it will fail 15:38:42 <svippery> It already failed. 15:38:45 <glx> it miss added files 15:38:51 <dih> hehe 15:38:55 <dih> :-D 15:39:05 <TiberiusTeng> I forgot to ask hg to include new files ... 15:39:17 <dih> did you not create a branch in your hg checkout? 15:39:34 <svippery> I also noticed the size was smaller, TiberiusTeng. 15:39:36 <dih> then you can at least make commits 15:40:04 <dih> (local commits) 15:41:31 <TiberiusTeng> yeah 15:41:50 <TiberiusTeng> I'll bring it to 13377 btw 15:41:53 <blathijs> I already wondered why -p0 failed, but that's hg's fault :-p 15:42:11 <TiberiusTeng> maybe I should hg diff -g 15:42:48 <dih> TiberiusTeng: create a branch in your hg checkout so that you also gain version controll of your stuff 15:42:54 <dih> hg branch pbs 15:43:04 <dih> hg commit -m "message" 15:43:18 <TiberiusTeng> actually I already did that :p 15:43:22 <dih> hg update default (or in this case probably trunk or openttd) 15:43:32 <dih> then why are you missing _new_ files? 15:43:59 <TiberiusTeng> I forgot to add before diff ... 15:44:07 <dih> LOL 15:44:23 <dih> a bit over-excited to release i take it 15:44:54 *** svippery is now known as svip 15:45:13 <dih> why not svuip? 15:45:21 <svip> Cause I am not svuip. 15:45:43 <dih> (vuip => very unimportant person) 15:45:49 <dih> :-P 15:45:58 <svip> You are... *hilarious*... 15:46:26 <dih> thank you - i know! 15:47:48 *** Touqen_ is now known as Touqen 15:49:30 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:49:38 *** LA is now known as vuip 15:49:47 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:47 <TiberiusTeng> ok, please check the thread again, I've updated the patch file (but it's still 10k smaller ...) 15:50:55 *** Arie- [asdfsadf@villabadmuts.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )] 15:52:07 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:52:57 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:52:59 <TiberiusTeng> note that it only updates vs80/vs90 project file, so you probably have to edit Makefile yourself 15:53:34 *** vuip is now known as LA 15:53:35 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:53:58 <Rubidium> TiberiusTeng: does it change source.list? 15:54:03 <TiberiusTeng> yes. 15:54:21 <Rubidium> then nobody needs to change a thing to get it compiled 15:54:28 <TiberiusTeng> aha. ok 15:55:08 <TiberiusTeng> I haven't dig into OTTD's build system yet, that's a great hint. thanks. 15:55:47 <glx> I hope you don't change vcproj by hand 15:55:52 <Rubidium> MSVC project files are generated from source.list and so are the makefiles 15:58:08 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EACB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:21 <TiberiusTeng> ahh, so I should remove *.vcproj out of versioning system and use generate/generate.vbs to generate them? 16:00:28 <LA> orudge: Have I filed some report post thing "Ban evasion 37753" ? 16:00:35 <LA> Coz IIRC I haven't 16:00:57 <LA> and I got an email confirmation that you have dealed with it :S 16:00:58 <svip> Uhm, is this a feature? 16:01:04 <Rubidium> TiberiusTeng: no, you should just run generate/generate.vbs if you changed something 16:01:15 <svip> The scrolling seems to be super fast if I use the arrow keys while moving the mouse. 16:01:24 <Rubidium> MSVC can't quite live without the vcprojs, which is why they are in the svn repository 16:02:02 <TiberiusTeng> OK I see. (actually I'm using VC2005 to compile/test these things) 16:02:19 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A752E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:27 <LA> hey skidd13 16:02:35 <skidd13> Hey LA 16:03:33 * TiberiusTeng back on NewGRF GUI 16:04:21 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0D3B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:21 <TiberiusTeng> oh, BTW, if I can do something for middle-stop to be included in trunk ... 16:05:32 <TiberiusTeng> an option in 'Configure Patches' ? 16:05:36 <blathijs> middle-stop? 16:06:16 <Ammler> TiberiusTeng: if it doesn't stop always in the middle... 16:06:27 <TiberiusTeng> guess so ;) 16:06:27 <Ammler> like on Terminus stations 16:07:10 <TiberiusTeng> this could be difficult, if some stations stops at middle and some doesn't ... 16:07:31 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:08:08 <Ammler> hmm, maybe setable in the order list? 16:08:53 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0D3B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:10:34 <TiberiusTeng> I think it's better as a per-station option 16:11:09 <skidd13> TiberiusTeng: well link to diff would be helpfull if you propose something ;) 16:12:20 <TiberiusTeng> skidd13, it's in the forum, and BTW it's not my creation ;) 16:13:00 <planetmaker> ^then you should give link :) 16:13:08 <peter1138> LA: i moved stuff with your report to the spam bin 16:13:17 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180070002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:38 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:14:46 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 16:16:32 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:43 <skidd13> TiberiusTeng: adapt the patch so that it matches coding style... 16:16:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:17:22 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:17:26 *** elmex [~elmex@e180070002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:44 <skidd13> Especialy the spaces between the operators 16:18:36 <skidd13> And maybe a comment what the piece of code does... 16:19:23 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:19:31 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:20:16 <TiberiusTeng> skidd13, got it 16:20:54 <TiberiusTeng> what's the policy on very-long expression lines? is wrapping okay? or everything should stay in a line? 16:21:24 <Belugas> wrapping is ok, indeed 16:21:43 <Belugas> just indent (tabbed) it correctly :) 16:22:17 <skidd13> damn Belugas... you type faster than me... 16:22:36 <Belugas> it's called coffee, skidd13 ;) 16:22:37 <Touqen> skidd13: typeracer.com 16:22:46 *** elmex [~elmex@e180070002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:54 <Belugas> hello skidd13, by the way :D 16:23:04 <skidd13> It's called study work load, Belugas ;) 16:23:21 <Belugas> her.... 16:23:29 <Belugas> as if i was not working myself :S 16:23:30 <Belugas> blaaa 16:23:38 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:09 <skidd13> lol... well work changes every day ;) ... try to fix an exam past the tests... ;) 16:24:28 <skidd13> well legaly :D 16:27:23 <TiberiusTeng> two steps indent for wrapped expressions, I guess? or one step? 16:27:38 <skidd13> two 16:27:44 <TiberiusTeng> actually I was thinking about configuration or station options, that's a lot of headache 16:27:44 <TiberiusTeng> got it 16:28:21 <skidd13> TiberiusTeng: by the way are both cached values signed int? 16:28:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:29:10 <TiberiusTeng> seems uint16 16:29:37 <skidd13> well then unsigned should fit ;) 16:30:11 <TiberiusTeng> uint == uint32 ? 16:30:35 <skidd13> yeah, but uint16 is damned slow and mostly used cause of memory reasons ;) 16:31:50 <skidd13> well I'd prefer to constify the values since they are const, but that's personal... 16:33:36 <TiberiusTeng> good coding practice never hurts ... 16:33:57 <TiberiusTeng> will take care of it later, and add an temporary configure option for it 16:34:12 <TiberiusTeng> before digging into how to have order/station specific options ... 16:34:18 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F4145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:35:03 <skidd13> Hmm... IMO a patch option is overkill, but what do the other devs say? folks 16:35:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:36:18 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41648.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37:30 <TiberiusTeng> and I have to figure out who made it from the beginning ... I just salvaged it from deep inside (?) some thread and think that's cool 16:38:06 <TiberiusTeng> since the station building of (original) stations are all at middle, so it makes sense 16:39:21 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 16:39:29 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:39:34 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 16:39:41 <Ammler> TiberiusTeng: it is Eddi|zuHause2, afaik 16:39:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> <TiberiusTeng> oh, BTW, if I can do something for middle-stop to be included in trunk ... <- i did not really intend it for trunk inclusion, imho it lacks a lot of functionality to be really useful 16:40:04 <TiberiusTeng> great 16:40:23 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause2: isn't style usefull... well no, but still nice ;) 16:40:26 <TiberiusTeng> it's just some cosmetic change in its current form 16:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a suggestion to add an orders flag to stop the train at the beginning, middle or end of station 16:42:09 <TiberiusTeng> speaking of useful ... I was once thought of locomotive switching! electric loco disconnects from the train, enters depot, and another diesel loco go out to take the train further down unelectrified route ... 16:42:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, that's a hell of a killer feature ;) 16:42:38 <TiberiusTeng> but it's way too difficult to implement in OTTD I think 16:42:43 * Belugas yawns 16:43:15 * skidd13 hands Belugas a cup of fresh brewed coffe 16:43:20 <skidd13> e 16:43:47 <Belugas> not while eating pasta-bacon-cheese, thanks :D 16:43:49 <orudge> [17:00:28] <LA> orudge: Have I filed some report post thing "Ban evasion 37753" ? <-- ah, you were perhaps subscribed to that topic, and when it was moved or split to the spam bin (and renamed), it sent a notification out to you 16:43:53 <orudge> sorry about that ;) 16:44:10 <TiberiusTeng> hope I can keep enthusiasm long enough to see it happening 8) 16:45:03 <skidd13> Belugas: well then I take it... since I need some ;D 16:45:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> TiberiusTeng: i just wrote about what kind of impact this would have on newgrf trainsets with livery overrides 16:45:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> in the forum 16:45:45 <TiberiusTeng> newgrf's another big mess (no offense) 16:45:48 <Ammler> [18:42] <Eddi|zuHause2> there was a suggestion to add an orders flag to stop the train at the beginning, middle or end of station <-- that would be usefull for conditional orders 16:46:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, it would be a flag like the loading and unloading flags 16:47:08 <TiberiusTeng> the order system/station info could have more flexibility (even think of scripting, Python/Lua ... but NoAI have picked Squirrel ...) 16:47:23 <dih> trallalla and tÃŒdeldÃŒ 16:47:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> tirili 16:47:42 <dih> Squirrel is based on Lua 16:47:49 <dih> and way more powerful 16:47:50 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:48:19 <TiberiusTeng> anyway these are far from now :p 16:48:47 <skidd13> "dih: trallalla and tÃŒdeldÃŒ" Drugs aren't good for you.... Mmmmmkeeeyyy 16:48:49 <TiberiusTeng> if it's used on signal scripting (just for example) 16:48:58 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:49:01 <TiberiusTeng> and there are many scripts got called every tick 16:49:14 <TiberiusTeng> then powerful is not necessarily a good thing 16:49:40 <dih> hey ho skidd13 16:50:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, i don't have the time to improve the middle_stop patch 16:50:08 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:50:22 <dih> TiberiusTeng: noai uses a slightly customised version of squirrel 16:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> there were also complaints that it does not work well with realistic accelleration 16:50:38 <skidd13> dih: WWOTTDGD proceeding well? 16:50:42 <dih> + you can add a 'something' to limit execution of anything to x opcodes 16:50:51 <dih> skidd13: kinda 16:51:07 <TiberiusTeng> sounds interesting 16:51:27 <dih> it's very good 16:51:31 <dih> and it's better than lua 16:51:34 <TiberiusTeng> the scripting engine haven't in trunk I think? 16:51:36 <dih> and it's still very lightweight 16:51:46 <dih> it's in the noai branch 16:51:59 <dih> there are helper classes and api's to use 16:52:08 <dih> so you dont have to do sq stuff by hand 16:52:17 <dih> and templates are in place too 16:52:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> there were also plans to use squirrel as the console language 16:52:34 <dih> uh! 16:52:43 <dih> sounds interesting ^^ 16:52:57 * TiberiusTeng cross fingers and press Build 16:53:46 <dih> how are you skidd13 16:53:52 <dih> have not seen you online in a long time 16:54:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you're born in 1913, you should be 95 by now ;) 16:54:54 <skidd13> dih: well I'm online but mostly only cause of some dev issues... currently in the last weeks of my study... 16:55:06 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489EF87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:04 <dih> how is that going? 16:56:14 <dih> the last weeks of your study, not the deving 16:57:02 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:12 <skidd13> well well... just high work load 16:57:42 <TiberiusTeng> damn, it works! :D 16:57:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> what did you do? 16:58:04 <dih> he ran make! 16:58:12 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:57 <TiberiusTeng> newgrf-gui_r13377 is done 16:59:31 <dih> 'done' is a dangerous word when talking about patches 16:59:32 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:59:59 <Ammler> TiberiusTeng: is it horizontal resizeable? 17:00:13 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:00:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> the general veto against newgrf-gui was that it's too wide 17:00:18 <TiberiusTeng> not yet. 17:00:18 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 17:00:19 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:00:22 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 17:00:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> there needs to be a low-res variant 17:00:56 <TiberiusTeng> I'll try make it horizontal scalable 17:01:13 * SmatZ wonders how wide the Group GUI is 17:01:36 <TiberiusTeng> although personally I think 640x480 viewable is enough, but since there's people asking for it and I'm at it ... 17:01:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm not sure if that will work better than having two windows wich can overlap each other, TiberiusTeng 17:02:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> TiberiusTeng: some people want to play openttd on mobile devices with much smaller screens than 640x480 17:02:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> and pretty much all windows now can be resized below that 17:03:20 <SmatZ> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Portable_device_version <-- TiberiusTeng 17:03:25 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-137-64-250.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:03:54 <SmatZ> 240x320 / 320x240 are the smallest 17:04:47 * SmatZ has a phone with ~50x30 px :-) 17:05:09 <SpComb> implementing the console as an interactive interpreter for some language would be an awesome thing 17:05:42 <dih> Eddi: that is theit touch luck 17:05:46 <TiberiusTeng> playing OTTD without mouse/touchscreen was a very pain experience 8) 17:05:53 <dih> i remember reading stuff about going below that res somwhere 17:06:20 <Belugas> a phone with a screen??? 17:06:42 <Belugas> damned... i'm still using rotating dialer ... 17:07:08 <SpComb> and here I was, whistling into a twisted-pair cable 17:07:36 <Belugas> lol 17:08:16 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:08:27 <Belugas> TiberiusTeng, ON ENGLISH.TXT, use spaces,not tab 17:08:38 <Belugas> spaces are used to align stuff 17:09:38 <skidd13> Belugas: I use both rotating dialer and a 320x220 phone... ;) So you are not alone :D 17:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> TiberiusTeng: i played TT with keyboard a lot, it went very well, but TTD lost the ability to move the mouse curser with alt+arrowkeys 17:10:45 <Belugas> skidd13, i was really joking ;) there are no more rotating dialers at home. and it's been a while i have not seen one either 17:10:53 <TiberiusTeng> oops 17:10:54 <skidd13> :( Liar 17:11:02 <skidd13> ;) 17:11:03 <glx> I have one, but can't use it 17:11:08 <TiberiusTeng> I actually played OTTD on NDS and PSP 17:11:21 <TiberiusTeng> NDS's cool (with touchscreen), but memory's just too small 17:11:23 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:11:27 <Belugas> TiberiusTeng, try to find an editor who displays tabs and spaces. you'll see a few rogue tabs without any code 17:11:34 <Belugas> skidd13, not liar, joker :D 17:11:37 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:11:44 <TiberiusTeng> but using analog stick to point something on PSP is just pain 17:11:46 <glx> TiberiusTeng: NDS can't support noai 17:11:56 <skidd13> Belugas: sometimes the difference isn't that huge 17:12:03 <Belugas> heheh 17:12:15 <TiberiusTeng> Belugas, which patch? I do use vim and highlight spaces/tabs ... maybe I just missed something 17:12:26 <Belugas> newgrf_gui_r13377 17:12:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has joined #openttd 17:12:42 <skidd13> TiberiusTeng: nice another VIM user :D 17:12:48 <TiberiusTeng> ok got it 17:12:52 <Wolf01> hello 17:13:02 <skidd13> Hi Wolf01 17:13:09 <TiberiusTeng> those tabs didn't FAILED so I didn't noticed them :p 17:13:49 <skidd13> Does anyone know a nice library for C++ to play a bit with JOR and SOR solvers? 17:13:51 <Belugas> that's the joy of patch watching :S 17:14:21 <SmatZ> JOR and SOR? 17:14:24 <SmatZ> :-) 17:14:54 <skidd13> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Successive_over-relaxation 17:15:04 * TiberiusTeng hg revert --all 17:15:10 <skidd13> SmatZ: ^^ 17:15:25 <SmatZ> thanks skidd13 :) 17:15:53 <Belugas> ho... with that name, i was expecting some yoga technics i was not aware of... 17:16:34 <SmatZ> :-D 17:16:36 <skidd13> lol... Belugas: now that you say that... funny joke I need to mention in a presentation ... 17:16:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> that sounds very... numeric 17:16:52 <TiberiusTeng> ok, updated that file in forum. 17:16:54 <Belugas> told you... i'm a joker 17:17:17 <TiberiusTeng> http://www.brianapps.net/sizer.html 17:17:35 <TiberiusTeng> (beware, its size includes window title bar/border) 17:18:38 <SmatZ> :-D 17:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> skidd13: for numeric calculations, matlab might be the way to go 17:18:49 <TiberiusTeng> with this I tried some 320x240, 256x384 on PC ... and even 'Game Options' didn't fit in screen *) 17:19:32 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause2: well I did the matlab implementation, but the task I'm on ATM is to reimplement it in a language of my choise... -> C++ 17:21:20 <TiberiusTeng> and world map can't fit horizontally in 320 17:21:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> TiberiusTeng: i said MOST windows, the job is not finished 17:22:32 <TiberiusTeng> yeah I know :p 17:23:10 * LA wonders if someone has done a 1:1 map of earth 17:23:15 <LA> :P 17:23:30 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have seen an earth heightmap 17:23:45 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:23:47 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:54 <TiberiusTeng> trying this on a 1680x1050 screen is very ... ouch. 17:24:01 <skidd13> I'm off .... 17:24:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A752E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:24:12 <Touqen> What did the five fingers say to the face? 17:24:14 <TiberiusTeng> anyway I'll try make NewGRF GUI thinner 17:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> it was 2048x1024 afaik 17:25:31 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:29:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, if you assume 1 tile equals 50m (two wagons of 25m length), then the equator would be 800.000 tiles 17:30:47 <SmatZ> that gives a reason for 1mil x 1mil maps 17:31:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> certainly :p 17:31:28 <TiberiusTeng> the window resizing system is a bit hard to understand ... 17:31:28 <SmatZ> :) 17:31:46 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:00 <Belugas> naaa... 17:32:02 <Belugas> not really... 17:32:14 <Belugas> just took me 5 guis to understand it... 17:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> but it is... REALISTIC!!!11!eins1elf 17:32:38 <SmatZ> :-) 17:32:56 <Belugas> whouu.... the word... 17:33:02 <Belugas> THAT WORD!!! 17:33:07 <Belugas> Attack!! 17:33:10 <peter1138> haha 17:33:36 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> the knights who say REALISTIC 17:34:05 <TiberiusTeng> ah! got it! 17:34:11 <Belugas> the fools, you mean ;) 17:34:14 <Rubidium> it isn't realistic to make OpenTTD realistic 17:34:24 <TiberiusTeng> top/bottom is not referring to 'padding size' but 'absolute size' ... 17:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> Belugas: have you ever watched monty python? 17:34:40 <Belugas> no 17:34:40 <TiberiusTeng> /absolute position/ 17:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i figured by your comment :p 17:35:29 <dih> Belugas pitties the fools 17:35:47 <murr4y> FOOLS 17:36:02 * peter1138 fitties the pools 17:36:11 <peter1138> (now i have to work out what 'fitties' means) 17:36:18 * Belugas engines the pools 17:36:44 <murr4y> in norwegian, fitte is "pussy" 17:36:45 <TiberiusTeng> but if I want to equally spacing those buttons/panels, then I still have to code OnSize() myself ... hmm. 17:37:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> "fit" was an east german brand of cleaning liquid 17:37:56 <planetmaker> ^ is :) 17:38:10 * planetmaker actually uses it :) 17:38:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes. i think it's one of the rare brands that survived ;) 17:38:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i clean dishes so rarely :p 17:38:51 <planetmaker> :) 17:39:09 <LA> Dish.. hmm.. that sounds almost like REALISM 17:39:12 * LA hides 17:39:33 <planetmaker> virtual cleaning prooved virtually useless :P 17:40:30 <dih> LA: can you not make a more realistic effort at hiding? 17:40:52 * LA makes a REALLY realistic effort on hiding.. 17:40:57 <peter1138> hmm 17:41:05 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [hidden] 17:41:14 <peter1138> i wonder if jack will support multiple soundcards 17:42:38 * peter1138 suspects not due to timing issues 17:42:44 *** eemeli [~yea@cs181077142.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 17:43:08 <eemeli> can somebody please recommend me some good NewGRF's 17:43:24 <eemeli> i already have generic trams, newindustries and newinfrastructure 17:43:25 <Ammler> canada trainset 17:43:27 <peter1138> canset 17:43:32 <Ammler> :-) 17:43:33 <peter1138> ding 17:43:43 <TiberiusTeng> does the window width/height including its shaded borders? 17:43:45 <peter1138> ukrs, or dbsetxl, or ... 17:43:49 <Prof_Frink> dong 17:44:21 <dih> eemeli: get the #openttdcoop grfpack 17:44:22 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:31 <dih> you'll have more than you need :-) 17:44:44 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:44:57 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:46:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:34 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:53:50 <eemeli> ok i downloaded the coop grf pack but the readme is kinda vague 17:54:37 <eemeli> previously ive just extracted the files to my data folder and activated them from the newgrf settings 17:54:40 <eemeli> how do i install these? 17:54:44 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:50 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:55:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> just extract the file into the data dir 17:55:18 <eemeli> will they activate automatically when i create a server? 17:55:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, you have to select the grfs you want in the newgrf settings dialog 17:56:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> not all sets are compatible with each other, so just loading all will most certainly fail badly 17:58:33 <dih> hehe 17:58:53 <dih> eemeli: the grfpack is nothing else than a good collection of grf's 17:59:03 <dih> it does not change anything related to the install procedure 18:03:27 *** planetmaker is now known as planetmaker|away 18:04:38 *** planetmaker|away is now known as planetmaker 18:05:58 *** LA [~lord@ip235.cab20.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]] 18:07:43 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 18:12:59 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:12:59 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1314 18:12:59 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 18:13:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00074c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:26 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:10 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:57 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:16:04 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:19:00 *** Guest1314 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:10 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:27:01 *** hnsz2002 [~hnsz2002@78-131-51-63.pool.hdsnet.hu] has joined #openttd 18:30:00 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:06 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:11 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:30:14 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:31:18 <hnsz2002> i see on the official site, from the servers query many information about game: map size, clients, game year... 18:31:46 <hnsz2002> i want make similar to this to my server... how can i read about this "queries"? 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EOL.] 18:44:35 *** Guest1324 [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:27 <hnsz2002> ok, and what is the difference betwheen "server" and "masterserver". i have only one server, that start dedicated with -D 18:45:57 <Sacro> you need a masterserver 18:46:01 <Sacro> but it's as big as a room 18:46:07 <Sacro> and needs a small generator 18:46:12 <krix> lolz :D 18:46:14 <krix> :)))) 18:46:20 <Touqen> it's also sentient and a little psychotic. 18:46:22 <dih> hnsz2002: have a look at openttdlib 18:46:27 <Touqen> Oh wait, that's the Master Controller. 18:46:32 <Touqen> nvm 18:46:50 <krix> damn :D 18:47:03 <Belugas> masterserver is the application to which all servers that are starting are contacting, in order for all to see where are each server 18:47:16 <dih> hnsz2002: OpenTTDLib can query a server if you provide ip and port 18:47:23 <dih> and then display details on a website 18:47:23 <Belugas> that is the meaning of "advertize" 18:47:35 *** MetaMorfoziS [~avr@3e44b94c.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #openttd 18:47:51 <krix> hnsz2002, and its url: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/openttdlib 18:48:20 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:21 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:48:31 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:48:34 <hnsz2002> dih: if i good understand, the master server not need? 18:48:36 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:48:45 <hnsz2002> krix: thx, i check this :) 18:48:46 <dih> hnsz2002: http://pub.dihedral.de/OpenTTDLib 18:48:57 <krix> oh 18:48:58 <dih> hnsz2002: if you only want to check ONE server 18:48:59 <krix> then that :) 18:49:15 <dih> and if you want to display it on your own website 18:49:21 <dih> then OpenTTDLib is for you 18:49:31 <hnsz2002> dih: yes, only one server 18:49:45 <dih> you can query multiple servers, but you must provide the ip and port (i.e. localhost, 3979) 18:50:09 <dih> download from the url i gave you (the latest release please) and read the docs 18:50:21 <dih> openttdlib.dihedral.de is down, just so you dont worry 18:50:28 <MetaMorfoziS> And secure every bukkint around you. 18:51:45 <hnsz2002> ok, i RTFM. dih, Belugas, krix: thanks for support :) 18:51:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:12 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 18:52:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:17 <dih> hnsz2002: have a look at http://www.openttdcoop.org/public-server for a running example 18:52:19 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 18:52:32 *** sartek [~sartek@82.78.230.182] has joined #openttd 18:52:46 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:52:57 <sartek> oh hai 18:53:02 <krix> sartek, hai! 18:53:03 <krix> :) 18:53:08 <Touqen> I upgraded your ram. 18:53:14 <MetaMorfoziS> Halp! Invashun in progress. 18:53:39 <Belugas> nice results, dih 18:53:51 <dih> :-) 18:53:54 <dih> thanks Belugas 18:58:31 <eemeli> what does the "smoothness" of world generation do 18:58:53 <MetaMorfoziS> It upgrades your ram. 18:59:00 <eemeli> no 18:59:06 <MetaMorfoziS> Then i'm wrong, sorry. 18:59:39 <eemeli> you are not forgiven 19:00:01 <MetaMorfoziS> The openttd family don't forget?:( 19:00:05 <Belugas> how smooth the differences are going to be on the generation of "edges", in your landscape 19:00:23 <Belugas> try changing it, you'll see 19:00:30 <Belugas> keep same seed, tough 19:00:43 <MetaMorfoziS> maybe it's antialiasing?:D 19:00:56 <Belugas> very useful, MetaMorfoziS 19:01:28 *** MetaMorfoziS [~avr@3e44b94c.adsl.enternet.hu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:28 *** selle [~s@g221.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 19:03:44 <hnsz2002> otherwise, we have an irc channel on freenode, #openttd-hu. this is an hungarian channel, but we welcome all openttd players. 19:03:56 <hnsz2002> if u think redirect to this the hungarian players :) 19:04:20 <Belugas> you could eventually make a post on forums ;) 19:04:29 <Belugas> you'll reach far more users hehe 19:04:42 <Belugas> or make it your signature, even... 19:05:09 <krix> i'm wrong or there was / were developers from Hungary in openttd team ? 19:05:31 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Quit: You will never be the man your mother was!] 19:05:49 <Belugas> hem... 19:05:52 <krix> hm ? 19:05:53 <krix> what ? 19:05:57 <frosch123> one iirc 19:05:57 <Belugas> i think there is none right now 19:06:09 <sartek> krix: hem = developer 19:06:31 <Belugas> Darkvater was born in Hungaria, but grew in Netherland, if memory serves well 19:06:34 <krix> ah yep 19:06:47 <Belugas> currently, i don't think we have one 19:06:48 <krix> Darkwater yepp :) i got the nick now :) 19:06:54 <frosch123> webtranslator2 is running in hungary 19:07:02 <Belugas> true 19:07:04 <Sacro> i am hungry 19:07:08 <hnsz2002> :D 19:07:11 <krix> hah.. :)) 19:07:19 <Belugas> you are sacred 19:07:33 <krix> Sacro hmm 19:07:38 <krix> why not Scaro :D 19:07:38 <krix> :p 19:07:54 <krix> Cult of Scaro, Planet of Scaro, etc. :p 19:08:22 <Sacro> Scaro? 19:08:52 <krix> this is only 'understandable' if you are familiar in DoctorWho 'universe' :) 19:09:02 *** Splatman [Splatman@78-32-219-154.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 19:09:21 <Belugas> If i'd have to be in a cult, it would be one for NIN 19:10:51 <eemeli> i downloaded Industrial Stations Renewal v0.6.3 19:11:05 <eemeli> is there a way to enable deleting single parts of a station 19:11:22 <eemeli> i mean when i try to delete something off the station the whole thing disappears D: 19:11:29 <dih> hnsz2002: why do you not move from freenode to oftc? 19:11:44 <frosch123> press "build station" and the "remove" button, not the "bulldozer" 19:12:15 <eemeli> ty 19:12:42 <sartek> dih: what's wrong with freenode?:) 19:12:56 <Noldo> it's freenode 19:13:01 <krix> and? :) 19:13:19 <dih> most openttd channels are on oftc :-) 19:14:37 *** trd_ [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:15:00 <hnsz2002> dih: i have not problem with freenode :) 19:15:41 <dih> like i said: most openttd channels are here 19:15:50 <Belugas> we had lots of problems with freenodes 19:16:01 <Belugas> and far less since we are on oftc 19:16:05 *** trd_ [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 19:16:11 <krix> what problems if i can ask ?:) 19:16:28 <Belugas> lots of deconnections 19:16:35 <krix> ah 19:16:58 <Belugas> anyway, it's irrelevant, since we are quite happy with what we have here 19:18:08 <Belugas> netsplits, if i can remembver the right words... which i doubt 19:19:02 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:31 *** trd [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:54 *** Splatman [Splatman@78-32-219-154.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [] 19:21:20 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:21:37 *** Burgundavia_ [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 19:22:41 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:22:50 *** trd [~trd@217-13-28-178.dd.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:23:51 *** Burgundavia_ [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [] 19:25:09 *** mucht_home [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:52 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 19:32:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-139-113.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:36:22 *** krix [~krics@fibhost-9-132.fibernet.bacs-net.hu] has left #openttd [Leaving] 19:45:25 *** sartek [~sartek@82.78.230.182] has quit [Quit: http://blog.sartek.net] 19:55:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:27 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 19:59:56 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:10 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:02:57 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 20:04:47 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:10:32 <eemeli> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Image:Station_entry_load-balancer.png 20:10:47 <eemeli> is there a reason why some of the signals are two-way? 20:13:25 <Wolf01> 'night 20:13:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@79.0.238.55] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:14:39 <Belugas> two ways allow to choose between the ways 20:14:41 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:21 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:50 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:17:56 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:18:29 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489EF87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:48 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:23:49 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest1341 20:23:49 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:25:51 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:10 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:27:56 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:10 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:28:11 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37eed.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:29:29 *** Hendikins|SRA412 is now known as Hendikins 20:29:52 *** Guest1341 [~Dale@c-98-223-75-242.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:00 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DE80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:07 <fjb> Hello 20:35:04 <eemeli> 23:14 <Belugas> two ways allow to choose between the ways 20:35:10 <eemeli> can you explain that 20:35:13 <eemeli> im not understanding it :S 20:35:20 <eemeli> theres 2 ways and a 1 way behind the 2way 20:39:32 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has joined #openttd 20:39:36 *** HMage [U2FsdGVkX1@vixen.shadowpanther.ru] has left #openttd [] 20:39:43 <Belugas> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Signals#Two-way_signals 20:39:58 <Belugas> read! 20:40:00 <Belugas> learn! 20:40:12 <Belugas> understnad :) 20:40:18 <SmatZ> hehe 20:40:21 <Belugas> it's a bit simple ;) 20:42:42 <eemeli> i still dont get it :R 20:43:05 <eemeli> i mean the combos 20:43:09 <eemeli> why are they two way 20:43:55 <frosch123> in the old days pathfinders required exit signals to be two-way signals to work. 20:44:17 <frosch123> I guess if you use the NTP pathfinder for trains that is still true. 20:44:26 <frosch123> for yapf it is not needed 20:44:37 <frosch123> don't know about npf 20:52:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d00074c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:29 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56:30 <dih> yapf does require 2 way though to have a 'choice' 20:57:07 <dih> i.e. if both paths lead to the same dest. yapf would normally choose the shorter (and with less penalty) 20:59:38 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-222-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:04:46 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:05:14 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 21:06:55 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:54 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:08:07 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 21:08:08 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 21:16:31 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac37eed.bb.sky.com] has quit [] 21:18:25 <Noldo> dih: what are you talking about? 21:18:58 <eemeli> he's trying to explain signals to me D: 21:19:31 <SpComb> kill(-1, SIGTERM); 21:19:37 <SpComb> enjoy ur signals 21:19:59 <dih> lol 21:20:25 <dih> eemeli: just read that wiki page, over and over, and try the things it sais in a single player game 21:20:42 <Noldo> why would yapf have been coded to need two-ways for a choice? 21:21:14 <Noldo> that need was already removed by npf before that and it would have been a major step backwards 21:21:28 <Rubidium> SpComb: killing the idle process is much nicer 21:21:56 <SpComb> the idle process? 21:22:23 <SpComb> what is this idle process that you speak of? 21:23:24 <Rubidium> http://kerneltrap.org/node/4485 <- something like that (had that once) 21:24:46 <SpComb> ah, some kernel-internal thing 21:28:34 <dih> Noldo: i think we might be using a different understanding of 'choice' 21:29:42 *** Mido [~chatzilla@H229.C192.cci.switchworks.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:13 <Noldo> ok 21:30:27 <Mido> alright i need help or something. why do i constantly get disconnected from multiplayer games with NO error message 21:30:33 <Noldo> do you have time and interest to elaborate? 21:30:56 <dih> mido: what does the server say? 21:31:05 <Mido> nothing. 21:31:12 <dih> i am doubting that 21:31:20 <Mido> nothing at all, i just suddenly return to the main menu without warning 21:31:28 <dih> the server silly 21:31:33 <dih> not your client 21:32:15 <dih> and if the server returnes to the intro screen, dont complain about your connection dropping!! 21:32:17 <sanity> The newest nightlys "industies"-list is f*ucked 21:32:30 <Mido> how can i know? it doesnt say anything in the console 21:32:41 <dih> ?? 21:32:44 <dih> what setup? 21:32:46 <sanity> R13378 21:32:50 <dih> are you using autopilot Mido? 21:32:53 *** sanity is now known as Sanity 21:33:04 <dih> it always sais something on at least the console 21:33:11 <dih> (dedicated server that is) 21:33:17 <Mido> i dont even know what autopilot is 21:33:25 <dih> generally, every server will display a message as to _why_ a client dropped out 21:33:56 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499EACB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 21:34:09 <Mido> damnit, it just did it again 21:34:25 <Mido> absolutely nothing in the console 21:34:37 <dih> Mido: i am assuming you are client (connecting to another server), right? 21:34:46 <Mido> yes 21:35:04 <dih> are you the server admin? or do you know or have means to contact the server admin? 21:35:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:23 <Mido> no, this happens on a lot of servers 21:35:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:35:38 <dih> Mido: that is not the point 21:36:01 <dih> the point is, can you or can you not find out what the message on the server is, was to why the client disconnected 21:36:07 <dih> not what your client is telling you! 21:36:42 <dih> are you playing a clean release? or is it some patched something from the forums or selfcompiled after you patching it 21:36:44 <Mido> i dont think so. 21:36:59 <Mido> clean release, yes. 21:37:16 <dih> which version? 21:37:22 <Mido> latest, 0.6.1 21:37:27 <eemeli> what server u playin on? 21:37:36 <eemeli> i can join and see what msg you get when you drop 21:37:42 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 21:37:51 <Mido> !SWE!.Highspeed.Connection 21:38:08 <eemeli> i was kinda hoping for an ip D: 21:38:53 <dih> then look it up in the servers list (http://servers.openttd.org) 21:40:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-120-111-117.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:46 <Mido> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=22236 21:41:04 <eemeli> ya im there whats your nick 21:41:15 <Mido> Mido... 21:41:17 <Mido> >_> 21:41:39 <eemeli> dont see you in the client list 21:41:59 <eemeli> did you just drop again? 21:42:32 <eemeli> "Player has left the game (kicked by server)" 21:42:40 <dih> now that is something else 21:42:53 <eemeli> they were telling him not to steal from someones coal mine :d 21:43:00 <dih> Mido: you need to perhaps change your nick 21:43:18 <dih> Player is not always welcome 21:43:30 <dih> make sure it sais .e.g. Mido in the Multiplayer screen 21:43:54 <eemeli> now you were connecting, there was a long pause about 10 seconds, and then "Connection lost" 21:44:01 <eemeli> and unpause 21:44:03 <Mido> no, player was another guy 21:44:09 <Mido> he was kicked for being a douchebag 21:45:13 <Rubidium> connection lost == unstable (inter)net connection 21:45:52 <Mido> why are there never any north american servers 21:45:53 <Mido> -_- 21:46:12 <Touqen> because there aren't that many north american's that play? 21:46:22 <Mido> there are quite a few canadians 21:46:25 <dih> they play OpenNATD 21:46:34 <dih> NorthAmericanTycoon 21:46:51 <Touqen> OpenStealYourMoneyAndRuinYourEconomyDeluxe 21:47:19 <Rubidium> aren't Americans more into the whole FPS/Flight Sim stuff? 21:47:50 <dih> Rubidium: have you met Egon Shooter lately? :-P 21:48:02 <Rubidium> never heard of 21:48:18 <dih> fps also are refered to 'ego shooters' 21:48:21 <dih> :-S 21:48:45 <dih> ego = i ? 21:48:59 <Touqen> superego and id 21:49:40 <Rubidium> the major problem with the US is that the public transport generally sucks 21:50:07 <dih> ^^ 21:50:32 <Touqen> We're a very car centric society. 21:51:14 <Touqen> Cars intrigue americans more than trains. 21:53:12 <Touqen> All of our public transit networks are on life support. 21:55:43 <Rubidium> and it can work so nicely if done properly 21:56:05 *** eemeli [~yea@cs181077142.pp.htv.fi] has quit [] 21:56:13 <Touqen> Americans are civically challenged. 21:56:49 <Touqen> There isn't anyway we competently build a workable rail network. 21:57:30 <Touqen> Our local transit organization is two years late and several million dollars behind budget on a BUS STOP. 21:57:39 *** jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:53 <jordi> hi 21:58:30 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:46 <jordi> I was about to prepare 0.6.1 Debian/Uubntu packages, and I noticed this: 21:58:48 <jordi> Due to a bug that can crash clients that get the server list we suggest you to update to 0.6.1 when you regularly play multiplayer games. 21:59:26 <jordi> Does this have security implications as in crashes makes client execute arbitrary code, and so on? 22:01:00 <Rubidium> don't know exactly about the security implications 22:03:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13379 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r13255): drive side can't be changed in intro 22:04:25 <Rubidium> jordi: what happens is that an array with pointers is going beyond it's bounds. The pointers are made with new so they should be quite random. 22:05:12 *** Pikka|afk [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-165-98-32.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:05:23 <Mido> by the way, regarding the whole mass transport by country thing. 22:05:32 <Mido> im pretty sure japan is beating everybody 22:05:35 <Rubidium> so technically one can't engineer some bad code, but it could randomly happen (the chance it probably low though) 22:05:55 <Mido> the maglev in japan now... 22:06:02 <Rubidium> Mido: if they'd turn the heating down a little and let their Shinkansens run more on time, then yes 22:06:12 <Rubidium> maglev in Japan is just a test project 22:06:24 <Mido> it works, does it not? 22:06:33 <Rubidium> a train goes over it 22:06:41 <Rubidium> but Germany had one too 22:07:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:08:27 <dih> and in germany people were allowed to notice what if fees like when the train goes over something ;-P 22:09:31 <Rubidium> yeah... DB has always issues with toolboxes and sheep 22:10:12 <dih> well... the sheep have the bigger issues :-P 22:10:27 <dih> bigger and faster issues 22:10:50 <dih> issues that will really crunch them to bits if they dont look out 22:11:08 <dih> i mean - they could end up being scrambled 22:11:15 <fjb> But cheep are cheap. 22:11:39 <dih> cheep? 22:12:00 <fjb> Sheep 22:12:39 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 22:12:44 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet655.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:05 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 22:14:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:20 <Rubidium> jordi: there are some tricks in place that should reduce the chance that it accidentally crashes clients, but one can still willfully crash 0.6.0 clients with ease 22:17:04 <Rubidium> (and all 0.5.X clients too) 22:19:05 <dih> remotely is that? 22:20:22 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:22 <Rubidium> any client that gets the server list <= 0.6.0 && > 0.4.8 22:22:35 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.54] has joined #openttd 22:25:20 <dih> so has there been a change in how the client handles the list in 0.6.1 or has there been a change how the master server sends the list? 22:25:25 <dih> i am guessing the first 22:25:31 <dih> anyhow 22:25:35 <dih> i am off to bed 22:25:42 <dih> have a good night :_) 22:25:44 <Rubidium> actually both 22:25:56 <dih> oh? 22:26:00 <dih> nice 22:26:01 <Rubidium> but the latter to reduce the impact for 0.6.0 22:26:11 <dih> ah 22:26:11 <Rubidium> as the masterserver change doesn't fix anything 22:26:23 <Rubidium> only makes it less likely to happen 22:26:27 <dih> interesting :-) 22:26:43 <dih> i'll have to have a look at the code :-) 22:26:58 <Rubidium> but if you know what you're doing then the changes are totally pointless 22:27:07 <dih> but right now my eye lids are experiencing gravity :-P 22:27:25 <Rubidium> lie on your back 22:27:33 *** ecke2 [~ecke@213.195.231.54] has joined #openttd 22:27:38 <Rubidium> and rotate your monitor 180 degrees 22:27:50 <dih> Thanks for the info Rubidium! (on the network stuff) 22:28:06 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:11 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.54] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:13 <dih> and good night 22:28:16 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host217-44-220-18.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:30:55 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13380 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Fix (r13327): MSVC signed/unsigned warning 22:31:31 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F4145.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 22:33:11 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:34 *** Tim__ [~Tim@p5B37EF23.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13381 /branches/noai/ (99 files in 10 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync with trunk r13325:13380 22:35:06 <Tim__> Hey everyone! If you open the industry List, you can only sort it alphabetically, but not after transported or type... Is this bug known already? 22:35:15 <Tim__> Or is this just me?` 22:35:37 <glx> it's a dropdown 22:36:00 <Tim__> Yes i know, the interface has changed, but even if i choose "transported" it will not sort after that, but still only alphabetically 22:37:14 <glx> hmm indeed sorting is strange 22:37:55 * Pikka|afk hmms at OTTD version numbers 22:37:59 *** Pikka|afk is now known as Pikka 22:38:30 <Pikka> do releases really have the build number "80000", or do they have "8<build number>"? 22:39:54 <glx> for newgrf? 22:40:19 <Pikka> yes... http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action7 22:40:49 <glx> http://paste.openttd.org/13570 <-- that's what is in the code 22:41:08 <Pikka> right 22:41:10 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:32 <Pikka> so it's 80000. that's kind of annoying! 22:41:45 <glx> the goal is to have release always > beta 22:42:05 <glx> or trunk 22:42:25 <Pikka> yeah, but it means I can't just check the revision number if I want later than a certain build, because then it won't work in releases 22:42:45 <Tim__> So what about that sorting bug... Someone feels like reporting it, or is it already known? 22:43:21 <Pikka> I guess I will just have to have two checks, one for revision number and one for 0.6.2 or later. 22:43:25 <glx> 0 << 28 | 7 << 24 | 0 << 20 | 0 << 19 | (13380 & ((1 << 19) - 1)) <-- current trunk 22:45:27 <glx> release would be 0 << 28 | 7 << 24 | 0 << 20 | 1 << 19 | (13380 & ((1 << 19) - 1)) 22:45:58 <jordi> Rubidium: if you can't craft a packet that would create a situation where the crash would do bad things, I gugess it's good enough 22:47:33 *** divo [~asd@x1-6-00-18-39-d3-e9-f6.k899.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:50 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:50:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:54:26 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:55:26 <Rubidium> Pikka: why do you need to test for 0.6.2 or later? 22:56:27 <Pikka> for 19th century stuff, Rubidium 22:56:42 <Pikka> needs the long date check var2s that Belugas has just added. 22:57:24 <glx> then it will be 0.7.0.13377+ 22:57:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13382 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AICargo::GetTownEffect() 22:57:54 <Pikka> glx: are the current nightlies 0.7.0? 22:58:00 <glx> yes 22:58:17 <glx> without the bit 19 22:58:18 <Pikka> ah, okay then! 23:00:54 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 23:00:57 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B789B1.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05:38 <Ammler> pikka, I have copied the nfo code from openttdw.nfo: http://svn.openttdcoop.org/grfdev/swisstowns/sprites/nfo/HEAD_OTTDREV.nfo 23:07:08 <Pikka> yep Ammler, cheers 23:09:47 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-121-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 23:15:25 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 23:15:25 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 23:25:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 23:30:35 *** ecke2 [~ecke@213.195.231.54] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34:08 *** elmex [~elmex@e180070002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:01 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 23:46:49 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:49:31 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:36 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:55:03 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-148-44-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [] 23:56:15 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B84182.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:29 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B841F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd