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00:02:42 <SpComb> right, now the same thing iwth the ICE3 00:14:13 <fjb> Shit. I have an helicopter which stands above a heli port and doesn't move. 00:18:08 <fjb> I can stop it in the air. Strange. 00:21:37 <Gekz> lol. 00:22:14 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B78979.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:38 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BA527.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 00:28:17 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Night All.] 00:31:07 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:34:00 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77871.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:36:56 <fjb> It is standing in the air above the heliport and is stoped. Ofcourse it is blocking the heliport. 00:37:28 <SmatZ> fjb: trunk? 00:37:53 <SmatZ> fjb: save that game. Maybe report bug. Does changing planespeed patch help? What value do you have now? 00:38:04 <SmatZ> anyway, savegame would be interesting 00:38:49 <fjb> Yes, trunk +YAPP +infrstructure sharing. So I'm not sure if that bug is in plain trunk. 00:38:59 <SmatZ> aha 00:39:12 <SmatZ> YAPP shouldn't affect anything 00:39:14 <SmatZ> IS may 00:39:28 <fjb> The bug occured after one of the orders got invalid. 00:40:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B754AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:42:26 <fjb> I'm suspecting IS. 00:46:49 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-190.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 00:59:23 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 01:00:21 <fjb> Hm, what problem are the Canset guys having now? No version is availlable anymore. The official reason is the engine pool of OpenTTD. I don't understand that. Why do they not allow any downloads of that set anymore? 01:05:37 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 01:08:59 <Belugas_Gone> fjb, can you read? 01:09:02 <Belugas_Gone> "Updates including bug fixes for v0.3 are now suspended until we can provide a workable solution that can cater for multiple GRF engine sets in OpenTTD; it'll be v0.4 ..." 01:09:53 <Belugas_Gone> Thig is, i think OzTransLtd works on impulsion 01:10:04 <Belugas_Gone> nto really taking the time to think 01:10:27 <fjb> Yes, but just documenting that there ist a bug with that feature enabled would be enough till version 0.4 is out. No reason to entirely withdrw version 0.3. 01:13:08 <fjb> The set works in TTDP. TTDP has no engine pool. So why should people playing TTDP not use version 0.3 of that set? 01:16:35 <Belugas_Gone> dont' know. Maybe it's easier than to sustain the critics like "why Canset does not load in ottd" and such... 01:16:56 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13596 /branches/noai/bin/ai/library/pathfinder/road/main.nut: [NoAI] -Fix: speed-up pathfinder.road a lot (Yexo) 01:17:05 <Belugas_Gone> A personall experience, criticism that are flying like bullets are NOT pleasant... 01:17:06 <Belugas_Gone> at all 01:17:14 <Belugas_Gone> so i can understand them a bit 01:17:18 <Belugas_Gone> them ... or him... 01:17:21 <Belugas_Gone> who knows 01:20:29 <fjb> Some of the criticisms were not nice. But there are idiots every where. You can do nothing about that. But some other criticisms where home grown. Just disabling the set under certain circumstances without explaining any reason is not nice either. Unexpected behavior that is intended by the author is confusing people. 01:22:39 <Belugas_Gone> Granted, but it's their decision, for their reasons. I think it's not a good think to moan about it 01:23:45 <fjb> Explaining the decisions would keep most of the moaning down. 01:25:49 <Belugas_Gone> are you kidding ? It will just start another round of discussions from wannabe coders and others, as to how to circumvent it... 01:26:00 <Belugas_Gone> no, believe me, it's better taht way 01:26:34 <Belugas_Gone> you do not know how often did i wanted to be VERY nasty on forums lately... I can totally undersdtand those guys 01:26:37 <Belugas_Gone> totally... 01:26:48 *** bcool [~bcool@75-164-163-201.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #openttd 01:27:10 <Belugas_Gone> just take a look at the autodownload of newgrfs 01:27:11 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:27:35 <Belugas_Gone> we said no countless of times, as with the reasons why not. 01:27:42 <Belugas_Gone> go you think it has stopped the converstaion? 01:27:44 <Belugas_Gone> naaaaa 01:27:47 <Belugas_Gone> by far 01:27:49 <Belugas_Gone> so... 01:28:06 <Belugas_Gone> at some point, you read it all and say... "haa.... shut up" 01:28:13 <Belugas_Gone> and don't say a word anymore 01:30:08 <fjb> That reasons wehre explained. Nothing stops idiots. But that is another case than doing things without giving the reason. 01:30:27 <fjb> Or do you expect evry one out there to be an idiot? 01:32:16 <Belugas_Gone> to be honest? 01:32:47 <Belugas_Gone> most of the new users are pretty clueless 01:32:50 <Belugas_Gone> i mean... 01:32:57 <Belugas_Gone> it's really ... 01:33:03 <Belugas_Gone> whatever 01:36:11 <fjb> Clueless doesn't mean not wanting to learn. Nobody know everything at the moment of birth. You have to learn everything. 01:38:15 <glx> some clearly don't ;) 01:38:34 <Belugas_Gone> indeed :) 01:38:41 <SmatZ> some think they know everything 01:38:48 <fjb> Some, but not everybody. 01:38:57 <Belugas_Gone> and baby feeding has bever given any reasults 01:40:06 <fjb> The only solution would be to hide the project from new users then. 01:41:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13597 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: 01:41:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Enumification of the Map menu items. 01:41:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: The rework allowed to remove a function, by merging two quite similar ones. 01:41:24 <Belugas_Gone> not really possible :) 01:41:40 <glx> at least they could use the search function 01:43:13 <fjb> Most people are using the search function. But nobody hears about them. Only the few stupid people are making much noise. 01:43:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BA14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:52:48 <SmatZ> agreed, fjb 01:53:01 <SmatZ> the problematic ones are the most loud 01:53:22 <SmatZ> nobody knows about satisfied people 01:53:25 <SmatZ> nn 01:58:45 * Belugas_Gone nods 02:03:15 <bcool> ah man, I forgot why I came into this room 02:03:27 <bcool> I joined then had to go do something now I forgot why I joined 02:06:52 <bowman> what have the clueless users done now? I missed the beginning of this discussion :) 02:09:46 <Belugas_Gone> mostly, harassing with comments on how stuff can be done instead of curent way, asking for features without searching for related (if not identical) versions of the requests, not taking a NO for an answer and keep on asking the same stuff over and over again.. 02:09:50 <Belugas_Gone> stuff like that 02:09:56 <Belugas_Gone> usual routine 02:10:20 <Belugas_Gone> and the attitude... 02:10:23 <bowman> uhu 02:10:24 <Belugas_Gone> I KNOW IT ALL!!!! 02:10:31 <Belugas_Gone> you know NOTHING 02:10:33 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-6-142.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 02:10:36 <Belugas_Gone> argh... 02:11:07 <SpComb> ah, an assertion 02:11:45 <SpComb> http://paste.openttd.org/19416 <-- a pageful of C++ templates 02:12:57 <Belugas_Gone> http://devs.openttd.org/~belugas/patches/var65.patch 02:13:05 <Belugas_Gone> and a page full of code :) 02:14:28 <Belugas_Gone> nasty stuff, SpComb 02:15:07 <SpComb> I saved the game about two minutes before it crashed, though, so it wasn't that bad for me as a player 02:15:57 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 02:19:19 <Belugas_Gone> you might give it to michi_cc, whenever he'll be around 02:19:22 <SpComb> http://skrblz.fixme.fi/~terom/openttd/pvl_20080614_2009_8.sav <-- said savegame, in case it's helpful for debugging 02:24:48 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:26:32 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:36:29 <fjb> Hm, when I'm having an indutry with stockpiling then it may happen that the indutry doesn't take the cargo I'm delivering there. What happens if I'm just dumping the cargo there? I don't get paied for that cargo then. But later when that industry need the cargo again it takes the cargo already waiting at it's station. Du I get paied then for that cargo? 02:41:19 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:48:43 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: dR3x4cK] 02:49:35 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:49:49 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 02:53:34 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:56:35 *** Pikka [~user@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 03:00:47 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5528E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:01:25 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:02:16 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180065013.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:04:02 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:05:52 <fjb> Good night. 03:05:58 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CEE6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:07:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:15 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:07:57 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F55DC0.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:21:11 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 03:27:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:27:53 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 03:27:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 03:41:43 <SmoKeyy-zzZz> mornin' 03:41:56 *** SmoKeyy-zzZz is now known as _SmoKe_ 04:44:51 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 04:44:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:38:47 *** Pikka [~user@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:40:16 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 06:50:25 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489F987.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:57:39 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489E672.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:58:27 *** michi_cc [250433625f@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:03 <Wolfensteijn> /server -m 192.168.1.144 9003 7yC00n 07:54:34 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:01:43 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:01:43 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:08:11 *** Zealotus [~Ping@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:49 *** Zealotus [~Ping@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:15:41 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:11 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 08:27:39 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499E980.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:33:06 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F41FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:40:31 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 08:41:03 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm171.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 08:43:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 08:47:06 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:00:52 <planetmaker> morning 09:01:02 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm171.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has left #openttd [] 09:04:28 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> # ich zahle und verlasse den BÀcker 09:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> # hör noch den Nachrichtensprecher 09:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> # "Lage wieder mal dramatisch verschlechtert, 09:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> # heute fantastisches Wetter" 09:25:50 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 09:29:46 *** einKarl_ [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:31:05 <dih> very clever mr. Wolfensteijn 09:31:19 <dih> i hope for you, you dont use that password everywhere, and have changed it by now! 09:33:00 *** welshdragonmob [~mark@212.183.136.192] has joined #openttd 09:33:33 *** welshdragonmob [~mark@212.183.136.192] has left #openttd [] 09:33:46 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, let's hack his server 192.168.1.144!! 09:37:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:42 <dih> it's more like, try to hack my gateway! 09:39:17 <dih> + the highlight and all... 09:47:16 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@p549F18AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:52:47 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F41FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:52:47 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 10:02:12 *** einKarl_ is now known as einKarl 10:07:50 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:09:54 *** dR3x4cK [~Miranda@p5499C53A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:20 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789B8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 10:27:18 *** michi_cc [df5c07c65b@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 10:34:09 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.76.144] has joined #openttd 10:36:48 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-145.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:42:42 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a48.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:00:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm171.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:04:05 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:14:27 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )] 11:22:37 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm171.epsilon123.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:03 *** Mchl [~mchl@abej166.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 11:37:18 <Mchl> hello 11:37:54 <ln> butelka bezzwrotna 11:39:19 <Doorslammer> Hi 11:39:48 <Doorslammer> Any helpful people here know which side of train has to be lighter? / or \ 11:41:50 <Mchl> ln: butelka bezzwrotna? 11:42:00 <ln> that's polish 11:42:03 <Mchl> it is 11:42:14 <Mchl> Doorslammer: what do you mean? 11:42:26 <Doorslammer> Well, Im attempting my first ever GRF 11:42:34 <Doorslammer> Ive done a / view already 11:42:38 <Gekz> oh 11:42:41 <Gekz> lighter as in colouyr 11:42:43 <Gekz> not weight 11:42:53 <Doorslammer> But would like to know before I start the \ view if that has to be lighter or darker 11:42:58 <Doorslammer> Yeah 11:43:01 <Gekz> why not just start a game and have a look 11:43:01 <Gekz> lol 11:43:03 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:43:16 <Doorslammer> Laziness 11:43:21 <Doorslammer> Oh very well :P 11:44:15 <Mchl> ln: what do you need non-returnable bottle for? 11:44:20 <Doorslammer> Now, my poor eyesight tells me it's \ that is darker. Correct? 11:44:44 <Gekz> thought so 11:45:09 <Mchl> as sun is on the eastern side, that would make sense 11:45:09 <Doorslammer> Just wanted it to go well and not have a major fault to correct later ;) 11:45:20 <Doorslammer> Cheers, just the info I needed 11:45:37 <Doorslammer> Making the Tyne and Wear Metrocars 11:46:08 <Doorslammer> http://groups.msn.com/tyneweartransportgroup/metroin1992.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1723 11:46:36 <ln> Mchl: nothing. see, i don't know how to say "hello" in polish, so i had to use one of the few phrases i know. 11:47:21 <Doorslammer> In: I thought Eurovision would teach me :P 11:47:28 <Mchl> ln: I see :) 11:50:27 *** Zorni [zorn@d138150.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:57 *** shodan [~user@ppp101-219.static.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-102-67.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 11:56:28 <_SmoKe_> omg LOL 11:56:32 <_SmoKe_> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=b1d68043552cc0a375213317a7543a01 11:56:39 <_SmoKe_> i gotta do that to my next ex girlfriend 11:58:02 <Gekz> lol 11:59:13 <Doorslammer> Your future ex :P 11:59:42 <_SmoKe_> w/e 12:01:25 *** _SmoKe_ [Smokeey@91.201.194.47] has quit [autokilled: Do not spam other people. Mail support@oftc.net if you feel this is in error. (2008-06-21 12:01:25)] 12:02:35 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41648.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:03:33 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.76.144] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:29 <Doorslammer> Now for the electric pickup to draw 12:19:36 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:21:48 *** EER [~EER@86.90.53.41] has joined #openttd 12:24:14 <Doorslammer> Gah! Stuck on the electric pickup on the roof 12:26:02 <EER> I am having trouble with one of my lorry stations, it appears that every once in a while the rating drops to 0%, even though I am servicing it quite well 12:26:49 <EER> I have 53 lorries travelling about 25 tiles (transferring goods) 12:27:03 <Doorslammer> Cor blimey 12:27:10 <Doorslammer> Thats a fair few guv :P 12:27:17 <EER> the station itself has 7 tiles of truck stops 12:27:37 <EER> yes, I need to push 1000 goods a few tiles away to my train station ;) 12:27:52 <EER> I have the savegame: www.eer.cc/stuff/Wronnville Transport, 5th Jun 1995-2.sav (nightly r13592) 12:28:11 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.76.144] has joined #openttd 12:28:14 <EER> be warned though, I am experimenting with the toyland stuff, so it may be hard on the eyes 12:28:39 <EER> the name of the station is 'Wronville transfer' 12:28:41 <Mchl> load OpenGFX and it won't 12:29:25 <EER> I'm trying to get my sister to like this game, so gfx like this may help, then I'll have her move on to real scenarios :D 12:29:52 <EER> anyway, I saved that game about one month before the drop in rating 12:30:13 <EER> upon reloading it seems to consistently drop around the 9th of july 12:30:27 <Doorslammer> I may have bodged a fix to my Metro 12:30:35 <Doorslammer> I believe it is finished for now :) 12:30:49 <Mchl> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Graphics_Replacement 12:30:51 <Doorslammer> Just need a coder 12:31:09 <Mchl> EER: there's quite nice replacement for standard Toyland tiles 12:31:10 <Doorslammer> Shall upload to the server post haste 12:31:15 <Doorslammer> SErver doh! 12:31:20 <Doorslammer> TT Forums I meant 12:31:59 <EER> lets see 12:32:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> EER: bugs.openttd.org 12:32:31 <EER> is that the 'toyland preview' 12:32:47 <Mchl> newTerrain 12:33:02 <EER> ok, I'll report it as a bug. I wish I had a debugger here so I could investigate further, ah well. 12:33:34 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:34:05 <Mchl> also there some other GFX abailable on that page, you might want to take a look at them 12:34:50 <EER> can you load a new grf with a game in progress? 12:35:14 <Mchl> there should be no problems with these ones, as they only replace graphics, without other changes 12:36:05 <SmatZ> bugreports with savegames where newgrf was changed in-game are likely to be closed 12:36:40 <Mchl> never had any problems with OpenGFX GRFs :P 12:37:02 <glx> they can be static so of course 12:37:03 <SmatZ> OpenGFX seems to replace only sprites 12:37:08 <EER> no problem, I didn't change it before the problem occurred 12:37:40 <EER> and it seems reproducible with the savegame, so I'll go ahead and upload it :) 12:37:40 <Rubidium> EER: it isn't a bug what you are experiencing. Everytime someone dies in one of your vehicles the ratings of station nearby drop. 12:37:53 <EER> oh, that could be the case 12:38:01 <Rubidium> and your road vehicles are getting run over by trains all the time 12:38:17 <EER> true, I didn't know that impacted ratings so heavily 12:38:23 <SmatZ> hehe 12:38:27 <Mchl> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=91603 12:38:33 <Mchl> here's preview of toyland 12:38:59 <EER> it's a lot less straining on the eyes with opengfx 12:39:05 <SmatZ> :-D 12:39:12 <Rubidium> EER: ratings are going -60% on a crash 12:39:25 <EER> I'll have to try and avoid the railroad then :D 12:39:30 <Rubidium> of stations within 22 tiles 12:39:59 <EER> should I add this over here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Game_mechanics#Station_rating ? 12:40:50 <Rubidium> I guess so 12:41:23 <EER> ok, that's why I was confused, I seemed to comply with all demands listed :) 12:41:58 <Doorslammer> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=38094 12:42:04 <Doorslammer> Um, hooray I think 12:42:30 <Doorslammer> Balls, accidentally left an oversized Pikka engine in the PNG :O 12:42:42 *** Neo_ [~Neo@85.177.50.69] has joined #openttd 12:42:43 <Doorslammer> Oh well, I shall go cure that now :S 12:43:26 <Neo_> hi i have a problem with new industries and openttd could please someone help me 12:44:00 <SmatZ> EER: when you add "OpenGFX Infrastructure", maglev will become available, and AI players will try to use it... 12:44:04 <SmatZ> but there are no maglev trains 12:44:11 <SmatZ> so all AIs will bankrupt soon 12:44:28 <EER> is that only in toyland, or in every scenario type? 12:44:42 <SmatZ> EER: tested in your savegame 12:44:54 <glx> Neo_: just explain your problem 12:45:00 <EER> ok, I won't load it then ;) 12:45:02 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-66-226.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:45:25 <EER> I can simply buy them out if I'd like, but I enjoy the chaos that is called AI 12:46:11 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-66-226.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 12:48:04 <Neo_> I've build a scenario in which I included all the grfs I wanted to use, but when I start the game all the new industries (fish, beer and so on) all the trains with this products don't earn money 12:50:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 12:50:31 <Doorslammer> Right, posted properly now ;) 12:50:59 *** GoneWorko [GoneWacko@86-60-151-172-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 12:53:37 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-151-172-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:37 *** GoneWorko is now known as GoneWacko 12:56:20 <EER> Rating is not affected by a crashing airplane, I assume this is intentional 12:57:04 <EER> checked by looking for ModifyStationRatingAround in aircraft_cmd.cpp, which is not called, but is in train and roadveh 12:57:29 <EER> So I'll say that 'crashing train' and 'crashing road vehicle' will affect ratings 12:57:38 <Rubidium> the station is already blocked by the aircraft effectively lowering the rating 12:57:55 <EER> yes, but not in the surrounding 22 (or 30 in the case of trains) tiles 12:58:23 <Rubidium> true 12:58:30 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:53 <SmatZ> interesting, I would bet it used to lower rating at airport a lot 12:59:10 <EER> since no planes can land, I think it does lower rating a lot 12:59:22 <EER> unless you have an international airport ofcourse 13:01:33 <EER> updated: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Game_mechanics#Station_rating if it's wrong somehow let me know and I'll correct it, but I think not :) 13:02:25 *** Mchl [~mchl@abej166.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 13:02:42 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-151-172-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:02:44 *** supersum [~Supersum@82-171-194-232.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:06:56 *** supersum [~Supersum@82-171-194-232.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 13:09:06 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 13:09:16 *** Yexo is now known as Guest1097 13:09:16 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 13:10:06 *** Guest1097 [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:13:53 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-151-172-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 13:14:09 <Doorslammer> More mistakes cured, god blimey 13:14:21 <Doorslammer> Im acting like its amateur hour today 13:20:05 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 13:30:50 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13598 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt: [NoAI] -Fix (r13596): regression failed 13:35:44 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13599 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_controller.cpp ai_controller.hpp): [NoAI] -Fix: AIController::Sleep() should always have a value > 0. Warn people if the value is 0 or lower. 13:37:27 <ln> warn people?? 13:37:40 <ln> what a non-openttdnian way. 13:40:45 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13600 /branches/noai/ (75 files in 14 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r13508:13599. 13:43:49 <Neo_> could please somebody tell me how is it possible to fish in open TTD 13:45:36 *** Touqen_ [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:25 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-98-216-253-146.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:53:35 <Alberth> Neo_: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSAVFishingGrounds is what you are looking for? 13:53:45 <planetmaker> Neo_: you have to load also the fitting vehicle grfs 13:54:55 <Neo_> I play without ecs, so only with the newcargo, and i my case there are only some birds over the finshing ground 13:55:18 <Neo_> and I can't tell the ships to go and fish ;-) 13:56:52 *** Artamir [~Artamir@89.131.70.102] has joined #openttd 13:57:01 <Artamir> hi 13:57:36 <SmatZ> hi 13:57:48 <Artamir> someone can helps me 13:57:52 <glx> Neo_: raise land and build a dock 13:57:52 <Artamir> in spanish train set please? 13:58:14 <Artamir> i want to edit a train 13:58:21 <Artamir> train stats 13:58:30 <Artamir> and put it in electric railway type 13:58:55 <glx> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Trains 13:59:16 <Neo_> glx_: ok very expansive but I will try, thanks 13:59:54 <Artamir> :S 14:00:00 <Artamir> ok thanks 14:05:18 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54418bdb.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:05:29 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:05:40 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:17:05 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 14:21:22 <Artamir> I want covered stations set 14:21:27 <Artamir> someone can pass me a link please? 14:21:33 *** Neo_ [~Neo@85.177.50.69] has left #openttd [] 14:21:51 <eekee> um, try grfcrawler 14:22:05 <Artamir> I'm watching grfcrawler 14:22:06 <Artamir> but 14:22:09 <Artamir> this link 14:22:13 <Artamir> I can't download this 14:22:14 <Artamir> watch 14:22:26 <Artamir> http://www.aegir.bur.st/files/ttd/index.php?dir=Newgrfs/Station%20Sets 14:22:40 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:43 <Artamir> How can I download this grfs? 14:23:00 <eekee> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ 14:23:08 <eekee> ahh 14:23:11 <eekee> hmm 14:23:29 <Artamir> I'm trying ir 14:23:36 * eekee just woke up. Still slow. 14:24:01 <eekee> I would download all the .GRF links 14:24:07 <Artamir> yes but 14:24:11 <Artamir> sprites are... 14:24:13 <Artamir> pink 14:24:14 <Artamir> O_O 14:24:22 <eekee> oh dear :) 14:24:24 <Artamir> OMG 14:24:27 <Artamir> I download 14:24:28 <Artamir> MSDOS 14:24:29 <Artamir> hahahahahahah+ç 14:24:33 <eekee> oh1 hehe 14:24:44 <eekee> ah yes, you want the ones ending in w 14:24:51 <Artamir> thanks 14:25:00 <Artamir> I'm going to try it 14:25:02 <eekee> yw 14:25:04 <eekee> ok 14:25:04 <Artamir> someone speaks spanish? 14:25:10 <eekee> not me, sorry 14:25:28 <Doorslammer> Que? 14:25:31 <Artamir> wow 14:25:33 <Artamir> español? 14:25:33 <Artamir> xD 14:25:37 <Doorslammer> No :P 14:25:39 <Doorslammer> Sorry 14:25:54 <Doorslammer> I can say que though ;) 14:25:56 <Doorslammer> And ole 14:26:03 <Artamir> hahahahahaha 14:26:06 <Doorslammer> But thats about it 14:26:07 <Artamir> I'm from Catalonia 14:26:11 <Doorslammer> Australia 14:26:11 <Artamir> here is not "Ole" 14:26:13 <Artamir> hjahahahah 14:26:19 <Artamir> we speak catalan 14:26:28 <Artamir> we are quite different from the rest of spain 14:26:28 <Doorslammer> Miaow? 14:26:31 <Artamir> :) 14:26:31 <Artamir> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=38091 14:26:35 <Artamir> watch my screenshots 14:27:01 <Doorslammer> Nice 14:27:50 <Artamir> thanks 14:27:51 <Artamir> :D 14:28:30 <EER> interesting scenario, is it up for download somewhere? 14:28:40 <Artamir> not 14:28:45 <Artamir> I do by myself 14:28:48 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-914fe055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 14:29:07 <Artamir> I do a Barcelona's model 14:29:12 <EER> how large is it? 1024^2? 14:29:16 <Artamir> not 14:29:17 <Artamir> 2k 14:29:24 <EER> :o :D 14:29:25 <Artamir> 2000^2 14:29:43 <eekee> whoa 14:29:49 <Artamir> Cities are too small at first 14:29:52 <EER> I'm interested, if you ever upload it somewhere :) 14:30:05 <Artamir> to build infrastructures easier 14:30:10 <Artamir> mmmh okay 14:30:20 <Artamir> I'm going to upload it at the post 14:30:50 <EER> ok :) 14:33:41 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:33:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 14:34:39 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:37:51 <Artamir> I can't upload it 14:37:57 <Artamir> because it's too big 14:41:00 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-914fe055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:41:45 <EER> ah well, I'll just check the forums regularly if it's somewhere :) 14:41:55 <EER> right now, I'm off for the day. o/ 14:41:57 *** EER [~EER@86.90.53.41] has left #openttd [] 14:42:12 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-914fe055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 14:44:45 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-914fe055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45:06 <eekee> grfcrawler is flakey today. lots of "can't connect to database" errors 14:45:22 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:30 <planetmaker> Can I deactivate computer players in an existing game? 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16:45:27 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:49:09 <TiberiusTeng> combine all the sprites onto one (or few) textures to reduce texture state changes 16:49:32 <peter1138> ahh 16:49:39 <TiberiusTeng> http://http.download.nvidia.com/developer/presentations/GDC_2004/Dx9Optimization.pdf 16:49:55 <TiberiusTeng> it's the main bottleneck for now ...... 16:56:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:44 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-234-54-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06:55 <peter1138> right 17:07:09 <peter1138> but how do you organise them into often used texures? 17:11:47 *** Volley [~worf@84.119.76.144] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:53 <TiberiusTeng> I plan to do it in naive way ... create a 2048x2048 texture then put sprites with Encode() ... left to right, top to bottom ... 17:14:55 *** Boyinblue0 [~admin@5ac85a48.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [] 17:15:09 <eekee> that would be quicker than texture state changes? 17:15:13 <peter1138> hardcoded 2048x2048 or find out the biggest the card can do? 17:15:30 <peter1138> eekee: it could reduce state changes a bit 17:15:36 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe4dde00-190.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:44 <TiberiusTeng> find the card limit & another clipping (I wanna do 4096x2048, my card do support 4096x4096) 17:16:14 <TiberiusTeng> it's some kind of knapsack problem, so I don't think it'll have an optimized algorithm :p 17:16:24 <eekee> oh lol, ok 17:16:25 <TiberiusTeng> but maybe I can sort sprites small-to-large later 17:18:23 <TiberiusTeng> well, it's fine as long as we don't open the highscore chart ... ;) 17:18:39 <eekee> hehe 17:19:01 <TiberiusTeng> there's few huge sprites in there 17:22:17 *** Mchl [~mchl@abdx19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:22:19 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-66-226.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22:36 <eekee> I noticed some big textures when I unencoded all the original GRFs 17:24:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:38:46 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-143-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 17:39:30 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-145.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 17:40:14 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F590.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:18 <fjb> Hello 17:40:57 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7A54.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:12 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77871.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:27 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:52:58 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@195-50-204-106-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 17:53:05 <mikk36> hey 17:53:13 <SmatZ> hi 17:53:19 <mikk36> changing difficulty options from console aint possible ? 17:53:32 <glx> it should be possible in trunk 17:53:36 <SmatZ> in 0.6.1, not 17:53:39 <SmatZ> in trunk, yes 17:53:48 <mikk36> damn 17:56:22 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:13 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75B9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:48 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe4dde00-190.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:24:25 <curson> how comes that no tracks from 4LV is refittable for oil? o_O 18:25:09 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789B8.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:23 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789B8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:26:19 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@85.19.218.28] has joined #openttd 18:27:05 <curson> :( 18:30:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83867.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8413E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:31:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:35:22 *** Born_Acorn is now known as BBC 18:35:42 *** BBC is now known as Born_Acorn 18:36:50 <fjb> They should be refittable. In my actual game they are. 18:39:06 <fjb> In which order did you load the GRFs? 18:41:21 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43:00 <curson> fjb: they are refittable 18:43:12 <curson> to pretty much everything, excluding oil/fuel 18:43:58 <fjb> That still sounds like GRFs loaded in wrong order. 18:44:48 <curson> no warnings or errors here 18:45:09 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:45:13 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 18:45:36 <curson> which GRFs could be responsible? 18:46:18 <curson> "fuel" (example) is introduced by ECS, and 4LV must be loaded after it (and so it is) 18:46:21 <fjb> All. The order is important. 18:46:40 <fjb> Are the ECS GRFs in the correct order? 18:47:15 <curson> ECS town - construction -machinery - wood 18:47:19 <curson> this is my ECS order 18:47:25 <curson> wait... were is the chemical 18:47:28 <curson> -_- 18:48:33 <curson> gotcha, I'm an idiot :p 18:49:42 <curson> tnx fjb 18:49:53 <fjb> Problem fixed. :) 18:53:41 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:55:21 <ccfreak2k> Sroblem polved. 18:55:58 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7A54.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:58:08 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:59:29 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13601 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: resize the Tile Info window when it is needed, make it better readable 19:03:01 <fjb> My stupid engineers don't find a new sand pit. 19:06:16 <ccfreak2k> Kill them. 19:12:59 <fjb> Good plan. 19:28:50 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:30:03 * Sacro wobbles 19:33:10 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-190.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 19:44:56 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489F987.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:55:33 *** pavel1269 [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 20:02:36 <fjb> Hm, some train sets are not made for worlds with lots of water... 20:27:04 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-914fe055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 20:28:33 <fjb> They found sand. No need to kill them anymore. 20:32:31 <mikk36> why can't i change some patch options from command line in dedicated server ? 20:33:44 <Rubidium> because changing those settings causes desyncs 20:42:48 <dih> Rubidium: because the server has a setting change and the clients dont? 20:46:01 <Rubidium> because they are readable from a newgrf 20:51:35 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:25 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:53:27 *** [1]M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:53:30 *** M4rk is now known as Guest1135 20:53:30 *** [1]M4rk is now known as M4rk 20:53:31 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 20:54:14 <dih> so when they are updated, the grf will not know about it? 20:55:12 <Rubidium> yup 20:55:15 <dih> but then the server and client should still be in sync, as the servers grf would not know off the change either! 20:55:40 <dih> or would ther be a trigger on the server, notifying the grf of the change? 20:55:44 <Rubidium> dih: but someone who joins... 20:56:52 <dih> hehe 20:56:54 <dih> true! 20:57:00 <dih> makes sense 20:57:16 <ln> aren't you all supposed to watch football right now? 20:57:20 <dih> so, could grf's have a callback function for that stuff? 20:57:28 <dih> ln: nope 20:57:43 <dih> rubidium does not like football if i am not mistaken 20:57:54 <dih> and i dont really either (though i do watch games where germany plays) 20:58:02 <Rubidium> dih: and then hope that every NewGRF author handles it properly? 20:58:13 <Rubidium> seriously not going to happen 20:58:21 <dih> well... no 20:58:24 <ln> i don't either, but i'm assuming everyone but me does. 20:58:28 <dih> not hope they handle it properly 20:58:42 <dih> hmmm 20:58:47 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13602 /trunk/src/blitter/8bpp_optimized.cpp: -Codechange: little speedup for 8bpp-optimized blitter 20:59:22 <dih> can the game know if grf's use a certain setting? 21:00:22 * Prof_Frink commits r13603: Correct spelling of "optimised" 21:00:23 <ln> dih: -' -' 21:00:32 *** Guest1135 [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:03 <dih> ln: i really wish i could read your thoughts! 21:01:09 <SmatZ> Prof_Frink: bin/openttd -h 21:01:10 <valhallasw> Prof_Frink: depends on where you live :) 21:01:12 <dih> i have no idea what you are trying to communicate 21:01:30 <SmatZ> it is called "8bpp-optimized" so it is correct spelling 21:01:33 <dih> it's UK spelling 21:01:41 <Prof_Frink> valhallasw: No. I'm English, and therefore right. 21:01:46 <Prof_Frink> Everyone else is wrong. 21:01:49 <SmatZ> even if it was called "8bpp-otpmiziped", it would be correct :-P 21:02:31 <Prof_Frink> SmatZ: Search-and-destroy across the entire checkout. 21:02:45 <SmatZ> anyway 21:02:59 <SmatZ> I wonder why there is "optimized" and "color" everywhere in the code 21:03:05 <SmatZ> when there is no US dev 21:03:08 <Prof_Frink> Because you fail. 21:03:16 <Rubidium> color is just plain wrong 21:03:27 <Rubidium> -ize isn't 21:03:49 <valhallasw> america is just plain wrong 21:04:03 <Rubidium> unless the Oxford English Dictionary is wrong 21:04:31 <dih> has the use of colour and color then been 'united' to color? 21:04:42 <valhallasw> no 21:04:47 <Rubidium> http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutspelling/ize?view=uk <- optimized is correct British English 21:04:48 *** De_Ghost [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:50 <valhallasw> it should be 'kleur'. every other spelling is wrong 21:05:32 <SmatZ> Rubidium: nice 21:06:07 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 21:06:55 <dih> why on earth is there colour and color in the source? 21:07:31 <Rubidium> hysterical raisins 21:07:39 <SmatZ> dih: it used to be "color" everywhere, now it is slowly changing to "colour" :-) 21:08:00 <dih> ah 21:08:04 <dih> that explains :-) 21:16:26 <TiberiusTeng> but why? 21:17:50 <TiberiusTeng> well, forget my question :p 21:17:55 <dih> :-D 21:17:59 <dih> i was just about to respond! 21:18:14 * TiberiusTeng feeding Colour's to glColor3ub() 21:18:29 <dih> :-D 21:18:51 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:42 <Wolfensteijn> richting snackbar, heb trek en niets in huis 21:19:44 <Wolfensteijn> <@Floor-is> voetbal is duidelijk Wolfensteijn's ding niet 21:19:46 <Wolfensteijn> <Wolfensteijn> niet echt nee :) 21:19:49 <Wolfensteijn> whoops 21:19:56 <Prof_Frink> [FAIL] 21:19:58 <Wolfensteijn> the dutch just lost from the russions 21:20:00 <Wolfensteijn> russians 21:20:01 <Wolfensteijn> damnit! 21:20:03 <Prof_Frink> [FAIL] 21:20:10 * Wolfensteijn really can't type, for some reason 21:20:30 <Prof_Frink> But then, England lost to the kiwis, and England lost to the kiwis. 21:20:46 <Wolfensteijn> heh 21:20:53 * Wolfensteijn isn't a football fan 21:20:54 <Wolfensteijn> not really 21:20:55 <Wolfensteijn> and dutch 21:21:00 <Wolfensteijn> I'm kinda relieved the dutch lost 21:21:10 <Prof_Frink> Wolfensteijn: Neither England loss was football. 21:21:10 <Wolfensteijn> it's gonna be nice and quiet now :) 21:21:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:22 *** Sanity_ [~sanity@olof-herngren.narkotikapolisen.se] has joined #openttd 21:33:22 *** Sanity [~sanity@olof-herngren.narkotikapolisen.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:45 *** Sanity_ is now known as Sanity 21:38:53 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:47 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5528E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:39:53 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 21:39:57 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 21:40:55 *** Mchl [~mchl@abdx19.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: g'night] 21:41:45 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 21:52:27 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a41648.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:52:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:08:34 *** curson [~curzon@79-68-109-214.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.] 22:14:28 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:22:11 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Quit: ecke1] 22:30:28 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-190.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 22:32:47 <dih> [00:28] >Belugas< as far as i can tell, we have 2 reproducable asserts + no desyncs 22:33:04 <dih> shoot 22:33:10 <peter1138> in yapp? 22:33:12 <dih> that was not intended.... 22:33:14 <dih> yes 22:33:22 * peter1138 points at michi_cc, then 22:33:38 <dih> feedback has already been given in the forums 22:33:45 <dih> i was merely wanting to let Belugas know ;-) 22:40:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C9D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:43:16 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:44:33 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [Leaving] 22:45:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C9D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 22:45:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C9D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:54 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:40 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 23:07:48 <mikk36> ohm 23:07:59 <mikk36> why does 0.6.1 stop loading server info ? 23:08:05 <mikk36> in the servers list 23:10:35 <Rubidium> stop loading? In what way? 23:17:10 <Rubidium> totally no servers in the list? only IP addresses in the list? only a few servers and the rest IP addresses? 23:19:05 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789B8.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:19:09 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 23:24:59 <Belugas_Gone> hello 23:28:02 <Chrill> yello 23:44:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-102-67.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13603 /trunk/src/newgrf_house.cpp: 23:59:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Feature{newGRF]: Add var 65 in Variational Action 2 Variables for Houses. 23:59:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: This var will return the manhattan distance of the nearest house that match a given criteria. 23:59:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: The criterias can be: 0 : house ID/ 1 : Class ID/ 2 : grf ID 23:59:51 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: The search radius can be defined too, up to 64.