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00:04:45 <glx> you hear ding-ding-ding when disconnected 00:08:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-38-156.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:10:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> exactly, and reconnecting is only a couple of clicks 00:10:34 <glx> and in trunk it's even easier as you don't have to search the server in the list 00:14:41 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DB26.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:59 <kyevan> At the very least, a 'reconnect' button on the thing would be nice. 00:18:04 <Sacro> that's what she said 00:22:24 <ccfreak2k> Well, actually, he said it. 00:24:16 *** TiberiusTeng [Tiberius@140.120.15.14] has joined #openttd 00:34:19 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75CB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:40:41 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76A48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:38 *** Zuu [Zuu__@c-4d4de055.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:21 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 01:09:56 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:35:28 <Belugas> not evident enough, it must be written "RECONNECT" on it :P 01:35:36 <Belugas> it's a FEATUREUH 01:58:29 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 02:19:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: belugas * r13683 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Codechange: privatize a function that is not used outside of the class who calls it 03:01:47 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180064054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:02:33 *** Marduuhin [~mardo4@84-50-171-144-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has quit [] 03:06:36 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:44 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:14:12 *** Marduuhin [Marduuhin@84-50-171-144-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 03:15:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:22:16 *** Marduuhin 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[~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:42:03 <LA> tere pÀevast 08:42:28 <peter1138> English only! 08:42:39 <LA> :P 08:42:46 <LA> was only greeting 08:43:12 <Doorslammer|BRSet> I thought you were singing 08:43:17 <Doorslammer|BRSet> So english ta ;) 08:43:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@sarah.ppcis.org] has joined #openttd 08:43:45 <LA> shh monaro 08:46:33 <LA> doorslammer|brset do I remember right you drew some things too? 08:46:43 <LA> for some things 08:50:24 <ln> peter1138: do you speak other languages besides English? 08:52:23 <peter1138> of course not, i'm british 08:52:32 <Noldo> :D 08:53:02 <LA> stupid americans.. wait, no.. stupid brits :P 08:53:04 <ln> so were blyton's famous five. 08:56:07 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [] 08:59:36 *** bowman [johanf@81-226-229-179-no59.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:00:30 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:00:45 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Sorry, I do some things 09:01:06 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Ive done a few drawings 09:01:14 <ln> peter1138: aren't the british supposed to learn french in school? 09:01:51 <dih> yuck 09:02:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> learning something in school doesn't necessarily mean you know it afterwards :p 09:02:23 <Doorslammer|BRSet> I did, but was crap 09:02:26 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Bonjour 09:02:30 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Thats my limit 09:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> je ne sais pas beaucoup de français 09:04:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> my father had to learn russian at school for like 8 years, he doesn't speak a single word of russian :p 09:05:02 <Doorslammer|BRSet> You are not good at speaking French? 09:05:11 <Doorslammer|BRSet> I can 09:05:21 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Oiski doiski gorski 09:05:28 <Doorslammer|BRSet> My talent is unlimited ;) 09:05:52 <peter1138> ln, no 09:05:56 <peter1138> actually i did 09:05:58 <peter1138> but it was in school 09:06:07 <peter1138> i.e. long ago and forgotten 09:07:41 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:46 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:36:18 <ln> http://www.knightridergps.com/ 09:37:57 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 09:38:46 <ln> why did the monty python choose albrecht dÃŒrer? 09:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> you're awfully fast in switching contexts :p 09:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> what's wrong with albrecht dÃŒrer? 09:41:26 <ln> i'm not saying anything is wrong with him, but since monty python was the first time i heard about the guy, i was wondering if he's more famous in germany than internationally. 09:43:22 <ln> besides, this is completely relevant to the previous foreign language discussion. 09:45:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> he is definitely known in germany 09:47:12 <Doorslammer|BRSet> I have the Fliegander Zirkus VHS somewhere :S 09:47:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> verbs always end in -en, never in -an 09:48:30 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:50:11 <ln> they speak quite good german. 09:51:15 <LA> How was Donald Witcombe tied with TTD? 09:51:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> the vehicles are mostly named after beta testers 09:51:58 <LA> ok 09:52:12 <LA> I found out a few days ago I know his son 09:52:16 <LA> Greg Witcombe 09:52:37 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: it's more verbs usually end in -en (IIRC) 09:52:54 <LA> yep 09:53:03 <LA> witcombe was in QA team :P 09:53:05 *** TiberiusTeng [Tiberius@140.120.15.14] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:53:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> Rubidium: i don't know more than a handful of exceptions 09:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> actually, off the top of my head there is just one ;) 09:53:41 <Rubidium> still, an exception means always may technically be used 09:53:50 <Rubidium> *not be* (ofcourse) 09:54:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> exceptions justify the rule :p 09:55:48 <Rubidium> I can come up with at least sein and tun 09:57:02 <Rubidium> hmm, there are even more 09:57:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> enlighten me ;) 09:57:39 <Rubidium> Àrgern, erinnern and similar 09:57:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, indeed 09:58:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's still a good rule of thumb, that verbs always end with -en 09:58:42 <Rubidium> not even talking about the composed ones like wehtun and friends 10:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> with the few exceptions mentioned above where the 'e' is left out 10:00:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> but i'd be really surprised if you find a verb that ends with an ;) 10:00:53 <Rubidium> lazy bastards ;) 10:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> Rubidium: you'd rather have it like the french who only read 1 out of 4 letters they write? :p 10:02:49 <Rubidium> well, French are consequent in writing more than they speak 10:03:06 <ln> and even that one sound doesn't match the one letter. 10:03:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> like the word "août" where you only speak one of the 4 letters, or worse the word "eau" where you speak none of the written letter, instead say a completely different one :p 10:04:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> Mark Twain really picked on the wrong language :p 10:05:36 * LA likes that in Estonian one speaks exactly as he writes 10:05:49 <ln> LA: not true 10:06:00 <Rubidium> ah well, I was lazy in 'learning' German :) 10:06:02 <LA> ok.. not exactly 10:06:10 <LA> but generally 10:06:19 <ln> LA: for example, 'd' becomes 't', right. 10:06:26 <LA> like we pronounce a as a, not as ei 10:06:28 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:39 <LA> ei as in eighteen 10:07:07 <LA> ln, no 10:07:15 <ln> LA: well, almost. 10:07:23 <LA> you wont say dahan tiivanil drampita :P 10:07:33 <LA> tahan diivanil trampida 10:07:51 <LA> d is much more lighter 10:08:11 <ln> what's trampida? 10:08:18 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:08:27 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:08:48 <LA> trample I think :P 10:09:01 <LA> or stamp 10:09:40 <LA> only in such words as mÌÌa or sÌÌa you day them as mÃŒia or sÃŒia 10:10:37 <LA> day = say 10:10:39 <LA> :P 10:11:01 <LA> Estonian > * 10:18:07 <peter1138> aghteen? 10:20:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> Àtin 10:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> write it how you say it, damnit :p 10:22:24 <LA> i ai dzii eidzh thi i i en 10:22:40 <LA> if you would say as you write :D 10:24:00 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee28.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:24:06 <LA> kaheksateist = ka a ha e ka es a te e i es te 10:24:14 <LA> spelling 10:24:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> what's that supposed to mean? 10:24:26 <LA> 18 10:24:49 <LA> and you still write it kaheksateist and pronounce it kaheksateis 10:24:50 <LA> t' 10:25:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> PS: i said the exact opposite 10:26:34 <LA> actually I think peter is right if you would spell as you speak, you would have a'teen 10:27:02 <LA> or a'ten 10:27:15 <LA> freaky 10:27:20 <ln> stop dreaming about teens 10:27:55 <LA> lnteen 10:28:08 <ln> anyway, why the hell was Super Mario Lost Levels only available for 2 weeks on Virtual Console in EU? 10:29:36 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee0e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:36 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 10:32:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:33:16 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:49 *** LA [~purple@ip210.cab63.mus.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]] 10:48:44 <ln> silencio 10:50:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:46 <dih> ln: english please! 10:56:57 <Doorslammer|BRSet> Roomdeath :D 11:01:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> ingles por favor! 11:01:56 <ln> dih: HÄmburgor is sandwÄ«Ä fram grundena cÅ«meta macod, oft mid cȳse, tomaton, lactuc, and cÊÄÄup eten. 11:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-monacle-cat-orders-a-burger.jpg 11:06:57 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.203] has joined 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average map size: 714 x 630\ 12:46:27 <SmatZ> hehe 12:46:28 <rortom> yes, working well :) 12:46:28 <Belugas> hello all, by the way 12:46:36 <SmatZ> hello Belugas 12:46:40 <rortom> hi 12:47:01 <rortom> just have to figure out why some servers reject the connection 12:47:08 <rortom> (the ##ERROR## lines) 12:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> firewall? lost packets? server offline? 12:47:55 <rortom> could be that this server is offline, but that list is from the master server 12:47:59 <Belugas> rortom, by the way, thanks :) I had a good time playing with your system yesterday 12:48:09 <rortom> so i thought non-working servers would be sorted out? 12:48:11 <Belugas> ho my god... me? playing???? 12:48:25 <rortom> you mean RoR? :) 12:48:43 <Belugas> yes 12:48:47 <rortom> nice to hear :) 12:48:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> rortom: there might be timeouts involved 12:48:59 <rortom> indeed @ eddi :\ 12:50:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> rortom: alternatively, those might be the ones with older packet versions 12:50:59 <rortom> no, i checked that 12:51:12 <rortom> oh you mean packet version? :| 12:51:22 <rortom> i checked only for old game info packet version 12:51:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, i meant that 12:52:04 <rortom> i will figure that out i think :) 12:52:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> you could just doublecheck these servers from the ingame list 12:52:45 <rortom> yes, or form the web server list 12:52:48 <rortom> *from 12:53:00 *** LA [~purple@ip210.cab63.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:53:09 <rortom> since the udp stuff is now working i will try to figure out the TCP messages :) 12:57:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> the TCP messages are basically the commands sent, and the random seed 12:58:01 <rortom> yes 12:58:12 <rortom> @Belugas, did RoR work well on your system? 12:58:52 <rortom> mh what was map_set again? 12:59:08 <rortom> ah, the setting i guess 12:59:14 <rortom> normal/arctic 13:03:39 <Belugas> rortom, the installation was a pain, there were some glitches, but all in all, it was a pleasant experience 13:04:38 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 13:04:40 <Belugas> altough my Athlon 1.3 with only 512 meg would have complained it was a bit of a workload... 13:04:58 <Belugas> and that i managed to crash my bus on the sideway more than once :D 13:16:33 <rortom> more stats: http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m11d65109 13:16:50 <rortom> landscape 22? 13:17:14 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:34 <rortom> hehe 13:17:41 <rortom> @ Belugas, what OS? 13:17:47 <rortom> linux/windows/mac? 13:18:02 <ln> what's "@ Belugas"? 13:18:24 <Noldo> same as Belugas: 13:19:15 <rortom> yes 13:19:52 <rortom> # 13:19:52 <rortom> normal: 138 ( 75.4%) 13:19:52 <rortom> # 13:19:52 <rortom> arctic: 14 ( 7.7%) 13:19:52 <rortom> # 13:19:54 <rortom> tropic: 11 ( 6.0%) 13:19:54 <rortom> # 13:19:56 <rortom> toyland: 10 ( 5.5%) 13:20:05 <rortom> toyland is not really used much :P 13:20:17 <Mirrakor> toyland rocks 13:20:29 <ln> the topic doesn't say anything about not flooding, carry on. 13:20:39 <Mirrakor> honestly, girls are more likely to play this world than the others :D 13:20:40 <dih> rortom: how did you build those stats? 13:20:53 <rortom> dih: my python script 13:20:59 <rortom> ln: thanks love you too :) 13:21:13 <Noldo> artic and tropic seem quite low 13:21:57 <dih> rortom: dont mind ln, it never really sais anything useful, more has the tendency to policing 13:22:27 <rortom> nvm... 13:22:42 <rortom> i wonder if that script is useful for anything as now 13:22:42 <Noldo> well it is fair to say that those lines have quite low information/line value 13:22:45 <Belugas> rortom, i don't know the number of the landscape, and i'm on XP 13:23:05 <Phantasm> Belugas: How is the bug fix? ;P 13:23:45 <dih> rortom: you could add how pany people play which version ;-) 13:23:50 <rortom> oh 13:23:53 <rortom> good idea :D 13:24:21 <dih> then run the stats every 4 hours for a month and build some averages 13:24:35 <Belugas> Phantasm, Rubidium told me about his idea earlier this week. I have to find the "enthusiasm" required to go into that work 13:25:22 <Phantasm> Belugas: What is his idea? 13:25:29 <Phantasm> The intial fixing time estimate kinda failed... ;P 13:27:23 <Mirrakor> are those online stats or local? 13:27:36 <dih> rortom: your average map size could do with some better handling 13:28:01 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:28:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:28:08 <rortom> updated: http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m1d07384d 13:28:23 <Mirrakor> Anyone knows a few good and free email programs for Windows which I could recommend to a beginner? 13:28:25 <rortom> @ Mirrakor: online 13:28:56 <rortom> dih: average map size as a list also? 13:29:16 <rortom> @ Mirrakor: thunderbird 13:29:22 <dih> no - just most used map size 13:29:28 <dih> but it would also be interesting to see 13:29:40 <dih> what number of clients decide to play on which map size 13:29:45 <dih> so a list would be the way to go 13:29:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> pegasus 13:29:49 <Mirrakor> yup I got that one, also The Bat although I don't know if it's recommendable for beginners 13:30:34 <dih> servers with errors: 5 <-- ? 13:32:55 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13684 /branches/noai/ (115 files in 10 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r13599:13683. 13:34:10 <rortom> http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m3c50ae71 13:34:16 <rortom> updated, added map sizes 13:34:34 <rortom> dih: those servers reject a UDP connection for some strange reason 13:36:45 <dih> then they just aint up and the master server has not updated that yet 13:37:18 <dih> afaik that is a window of up to 15 minutes 13:37:30 <Rubidium> rortom: you can't see whether UDP connections are rejected 13:37:41 <Rubidium> as they are just dropped 13:38:01 <dih> Rubidium: you can get rejects! 13:38:31 <rortom> Rubidium: i mean dropped :) 13:38:34 <dih> i.e. if the port is not firewalled on a unix system, yet no service is listening 13:39:03 <dih> if you try that with OpenTTDLib, you see it does not timeout, it sais something like wrong packet size 13:39:12 <rortom> my socket class says me: connection rejected 13:39:28 <dih> if it was dropped, you would get a timeout 13:39:39 <dih> that can take a little longer 13:39:57 <Rubidium> so 5 rejects and no timeouts... that's highly unlikely 13:40:28 <Rubidium> oh even more rejects 13:40:37 <dih> does not mean they are _all_ rejects... 13:40:40 <dih> just saying it can happen 13:41:08 <rortom> let me add some error msg to the list ... 13:41:43 <Rubidium> still... UDP packets can be rejected; you can't reject an UDP connection because there is no such concept (unless you make your own TCP with UDP) 13:42:08 <dih> yes, ok 13:42:56 <dih> but you still receive a packet 13:48:22 <Rubidium> rortom: where's the korean server in your list? 13:48:53 *** De_Ghosty [~s@CPE001d7e66291b-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:50:33 *** Doorslammer|BRSet is now known as Doorslammer|OTTD 13:52:22 * Rubidium wonders what happened to the openttdcoop website 13:53:10 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl10-223-170.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 13:53:53 *** planetmaker is now known as pm|away 13:56:08 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489B7F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:00:05 *** flowOver [~J@S01060016e65abad7.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:04:27 <rortom> oh, i found the problem :) 14:05:03 <dih> ..? 14:05:07 <rortom> http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m634b75f6 14:05:23 <rortom> the dns resolving failed for those hosts, but thats not important :) 14:05:32 <rortom> now all servers working :) 14:06:42 <dih> new stats? 14:06:49 <rortom> yes 14:06:53 <rortom> fixed some bugs 14:07:04 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:08:52 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BC7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:08:56 <fjb> Hello 14:09:24 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:11:32 <Rubidium> rortom: seem to miss the korean server (again) 14:11:40 <rortom> oh? :\ 14:11:59 <rortom> whats its name? 14:12:24 <Rubidium> ëìŽë ìœê°ìŽë €ì(íì°ì¡°ì¬) 14:12:44 <rortom> nice, i just see black boxes :p 14:12:51 <rortom> i will have a look where it could be .. 14:13:04 <Rubidium> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=24351 14:13:13 <rortom> yes, strange 14:13:18 <rortom> i will have a look 14:17:06 <dih> why on earth to people run 20 servers if not even one of thime is filling up? 14:17:43 <glx> because they can? 14:17:48 <rortom> @ Rubidium, its in the data, just not shown, i think its a charset problem 14:18:28 <MorgyN> utf-8? 14:18:46 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179217090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:22:13 <Belugas> Phantasm, agreed, it takes longer then expected, but that's usually the case in any development project 14:22:41 <Belugas> and mine are not exception to the rule, far from that :) 14:23:01 <Lakie> Heh 14:23:43 <Lakie> I found sometimes atleast with TTDpatch developing that I'd find a much easier way to do something (and thus finish it way before I thought I would). 14:25:05 <Belugas> that's the other way aroundf for me :) the initial idea wold seems to be a quick one, but after doing it, boom... problems here and there 14:25:14 <Belugas> or consequences, which is the case for this project :S 14:30:06 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db87127.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:30:49 <rortom> i got the problem 14:31:03 <rortom> the timeout was too short to get an answer from that server ... 14:32:10 <rortom> fixed output: http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m48c8ee06 14:32:27 <rortom> the korean server has number 93 14:33:56 <Rubidium> it doesn't show in the languages table 14:34:01 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@ip54534322.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:34:02 <Lakie> Well, Belugas, these were taskes I thought would be so very hard, or was told would be difficault. 14:34:26 <Lakie> And once in a while, I'd find something to make the job easier and more effient. 14:35:50 <rortom> good point @ Rubidium ... 14:36:35 *** llugo_ [~lugo@mgdb-4db871b7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 14:36:56 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db87638.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:01 <rortom> found the bug: copy+paste error from langauge header file ... 14:43:21 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db87127.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:22 *** pm|away is now known as planetmaker 14:44:57 <rortom> fixed and updated: http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m41357d14 14:45:02 <rortom> 4 korean servers now :) 14:45:40 <dih> my server is first queried :-P 14:46:48 <dih> rortom: can i ask you to make some averages over a cause of a few weeks to a month or so? 14:47:11 <rortom> i could do this :) 14:47:15 <dih> rortom: another thing for your stats, include if servers have grf's or not 14:47:17 <rortom> just say what you want :) 14:47:27 <rortom> the grf data is there, just not displayed 14:47:59 <dih> just another section like (x clients on grf'd games) 14:48:27 <dih> and x servers use grf's 14:49:48 <dih> and line 279/280 you might want to left pad the 9 14:50:01 <dih> if it's an sprintf you want a %2d :-P 14:50:25 <dih> well - for all number of clients 14:56:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't know if python understands printf-formatting :p 14:58:42 <dih> i dont know either, but actually every langauge should :-P 14:58:45 <dih> i know that java does not 14:58:59 <dih> sadly 14:59:45 <hylje> it does, it's also built in to strings 14:59:55 <hylje> e.g. "omg! i can has %s" % "sprintf" 15:00:10 <dih> i can has? 15:00:23 <dih> :-P 15:00:37 <hylje> silly cat talk 15:00:55 <dih> cat or can't :-P 15:01:05 <hylje> both 15:01:07 <dih> :-P 15:01:33 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 15:01:47 <Ammler> nice stats rortom 15:02:53 <rortom> thanks :) 15:02:55 <rortom> " % 20s: %3d (% 5.1f%%), %d clients" 15:03:01 <rortom> :) 15:03:36 <rortom> --> " % 20s: %3d (% 5.1f%%), %3d clients" 15:05:01 <dih> now the info on how many servers have newgrf's and how many clients play on those servers :-) 15:05:15 <rortom> working on it :) 15:05:19 <Ammler> with which grfs :P 15:05:20 <dih> :-P 15:05:33 <dih> rortom: do you actually do any ottd patching? 15:07:12 <rortom> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF 15:07:28 <rortom> so far about the all time available GRF files :p 15:07:37 <Ammler> :-) 15:10:53 <Ammler> rortom: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/GRF 15:11:09 <Ammler> our dns transfer failed :-) 15:15:41 <rortom> oh, i know those problems ... 15:15:56 <rortom> often involves lots of SND email spam ;) 15:15:59 <rortom> *DNS 15:16:38 <dih> SND = reverse dns? :-P 15:16:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> use the DNS exploits that are going around :p 15:17:32 <rortom> ;) 15:17:38 <rortom> oh, lots of grf stats ... 15:18:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> you could give statistics about the most used grfs 15:18:28 <rortom> yes 15:20:24 <rortom> 113 unique GRF's known 15:20:30 <rortom> 538 used overall 15:21:15 <rortom> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=search&q=52570103 15:21:17 <rortom> most used :) 15:21:51 <Ammler> distributed from ottd. 15:21:59 <Ammler> 2. is interesting :-) 15:22:06 <Ammler> guesses? 15:22:33 <rortom> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=search&q=6d620601 15:22:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> pbviaduct ;) 15:22:34 <rortom> :) 15:22:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> aww.. almost 15:23:20 <Ammler> stations can be used all the time. 15:23:54 <rortom> mh 15:24:08 <rortom> that big hoster stopped all servers 15:24:12 <rortom> 30 less ;) 15:24:17 <Ammler> myottd? 15:24:29 <rortom> no, that other one 15:24:51 <rortom> http://pastebin.rigsofrods.com/m272167e0 15:24:59 <rortom> fresh data, scroll to the bottom ^ 15:25:28 <Ammler> pb is 3. :-) 15:25:45 * SpComb wonders how many of the MyOTTD servers are actually visible in the server list 15:26:06 <SpComb> terom@zapotekII:~$ ps aux | grep openttd --count 15:26:06 <SpComb> 118 15:26:08 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-235-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:09 <SpComb> not all of them >_< 15:26:22 <rortom> seems so :\ 15:26:32 <rortom> do they have something to identify? 15:26:38 <SpComb> (note that that's really just a good thing, I'd kill all of them off right this second if I had my way) 15:27:00 <SpComb> rortom: they all have the same IP, and the name is of the form "username.myottd.net/tag - title" 15:27:07 <rortom> let me see 15:27:19 <Ammler> SpComb: but your servers holds the longtime record: http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=94031 15:27:30 <SpComb> haha 15:27:59 <SpComb> PID USER PRI NI VIRT RES SHR S CPU% MEM% TIME+ Command 15:27:59 <SpComb> 11764 terom 15 0 31728 12864 1928 R 0.7 0.2 78h21:55 openttd -D -g /home/terom/my_ottd/servers/93/save/auto.sa 15:27:59 <SpComb> 21188 terom 15 0 31424 10348 2268 R 0.0 0.2 55h44:38 openttd -D -g /home/terom/my_ottd/servers/262/save/auto.s 15:27:59 <SpComb> 11762 terom 15 0 31712 12648 1916 R 0.0 0.2 51h44:56 openttd -D -g /home/terom/my_ottd/servers/128/save/auto.s 15:27:59 <SpComb> 11643 terom 15 0 25456 6920 1928 S 0.0 0.1 23h30:06 openttd -D -g /home/terom/my_ottd/servers/94/save/auto.sa 15:28:51 <SpComb> 24838AD... very stable, and very unused 15:29:41 <rortom> myottd.net servers online: 25 15:30:22 <Ammler> very stable BECAUSE of unused :P 15:30:45 <MorgyN> 24838AD? won't everywhere be towns? 15:30:55 <SpComb> should probably go take a look 15:31:08 <SpComb> although it's probably running 0.5.3 or something 15:31:15 <Ammler> they are protected afaik 15:31:17 <MorgyN> greenbelt patch tbh ;D 15:32:27 <rortom> mhm 15:32:40 <rortom> i could push that data into some sort of mysql table 15:32:51 *** Zealotus [~Ping@217-211-211-179-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:14 <Ammler> rortom: GRFCrawler has a webservice support to get the infos, iirc. 15:33:21 <rortom> yes 15:33:37 <SpComb> the OpenTTD masterserver also has a MySQL database 15:34:25 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 15:34:33 <rortom> yes 15:37:34 <Ammler> rortom: dunno, who is responsible for the ottd website, but they might be interested in patches for including your stats to the webpage. :-) 15:38:04 <Ammler> webpage is on the SVN Repo, too. 15:38:10 <rortom> i saw that ... 15:38:29 <rortom> want to write spector bot first ;) 15:38:42 <rortom> anyone want to have the script to test? 15:39:05 *** planetmaker is now known as pm|away 15:39:32 *** mikl [~mikl@cpe.ge-0-2-0-812.0x50c774be.boanqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:39:46 *** Cyclonerotary [~pokerking@host217-44-19-162.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:41:06 <dih> rortom: that are details to each grf 15:41:15 <dih> that means some clients will be counted multiple times 15:41:49 <dih> can you have 2 lines in the top, like servers with newgrfs 15:41:54 <dih> and clients on newgrf servers 15:42:03 <dih> a total number would be helpful :-P 15:42:05 <rortom> sure, thats easy ... 15:42:36 <dih> but the per grf details are interesting also 15:42:37 <dih> :-) 15:47:41 <rortom> newGRF servers: 57 / 148 (38.51%) 15:47:42 <rortom> players on newGRF servers: 33 / 87 (37.93%) 15:48:36 <Ammler> rortom: those with the generic tram set are not "real" NewGRFs servers :-) 15:48:49 <Ammler> but that might be hard to differ. :-/ 15:49:19 <rortom> mhm 15:49:24 <Ammler> then the number is below 10, I guess :-) 15:49:28 <rortom> i can add GRFs to an ignore list 15:49:41 <rortom> just tell me what GRFs 15:50:05 <Ammler> only the generic trams, 1. on your list. 15:50:13 <rortom> ok, will remove it ... 15:52:37 <rortom> newGRF servers: 41 / 199 (20.60%) 15:52:37 <rortom> players on newGRF servers: 18 / 104 (17.31%) 15:54:17 <Ammler> and those are non cooper, our server is empty atm. 15:54:34 <Belugas> segregation! 15:55:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d000c11.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:00 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:59:00 *** Brianetta [~brian@sarah.ppcis.org] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:08:46 <rortom> http://openttdserver.de/server_stats.txt 16:08:57 <rortom> i will add that to a cronjob 16:09:20 <rortom> so its running every day 16:09:24 <rortom> *or such time 16:12:38 *** pm|away is now known as planetmaker 16:12:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:12:57 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489B7F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:59 <Ammler> rortom: isn't at least the filename of the GRF already in the udp packet? 16:18:39 <rortom> no 16:18:50 <rortom> i should request the grf info ... 16:19:20 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BC7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:21:19 <Ammler> that is the list of our next GRFPack: http://svn.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/trunk/md5GRFIDlist 16:21:56 <rortom> http://openttdserver.de/server_stats/ 16:22:10 <rortom> moved to html to be able to add grf links ... 16:25:08 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:25:28 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 16:25:33 <Ammler> that is nice too :-) 16:25:36 <rortom> responding servers: 22, not responding: 150 16:25:47 <rortom> my server seem to have some connection problems :| 16:26:50 *** mikl [~mikl@x1-6-00-14-bf-cc-78-b6.k706.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 16:27:41 <rortom> could be due to 1008668 hits per day of the webserver :\ 16:27:59 <MorgyN> \o/ 16:28:30 <SpComb> rortom: what webserver is that? 16:28:37 <rortom> http://monitor.rigsofrods.com/webserver/usage_200807.html 16:28:44 <rortom> *.rigsofrods.com 16:28:49 <SpComb> ah right 16:28:50 <rortom> *openttdserver.de 16:28:54 <MorgyN> thats only 11 a second 16:28:55 <MorgyN> pah 16:29:03 <rortom> yeah :) 16:29:25 <SpComb> too many .js files :P 16:29:27 <rortom> so let me get another stats :P 16:29:35 <rortom> yeah need to compress them ... 16:29:36 <rortom> http://geo.rigsofrods.com/ 16:30:10 <rortom> http://monitor.rigsofrods.com/mirrors.txt 16:30:16 <SpComb> that's a lot of mirrors 16:30:36 <rortom> yes, we have lots of data :) 16:31:06 <SpComb> I meant the world map 16:31:27 <rortom> thats the same data, once time visual map, one time text :) 16:33:19 <peter1138> heh 16:36:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:37:44 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm54.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:43 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has joined #openttd 16:42:02 <rortom> that runs now every day: http://openttdserver.de/server_stats/ 16:42:07 <rortom> and im off, cu 16:43:06 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7BD67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 16:45:37 *** Doorslammer|OTTD [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-59.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 16:46:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@adsl-58.35.Static.ssp.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:59 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B94BA.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 17:04:23 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C065.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:17 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489B7F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:52 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:24:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host126-174-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:24:10 <Wolf01> hello 17:24:29 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:24:34 <ln> hello, cheese land 17:27:14 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:02 <Digitalfox> Wow this a old news, but nonetheless funny, an F22 pilot is locked inside the F22 and had to call the firefighters =0 http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=11111 ... 17:28:45 <Digitalfox> And it seems it was a software problem.. 17:28:57 <peter1138> gah 17:29:01 <peter1138> "April 10" is not a date :( 17:29:07 <Digitalfox> 2007 17:29:11 <peter1138> bloody americans 17:29:19 <peter1138> it's "10th of April" 17:29:47 *** LA [~purple@ip210.cab63.mus.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:18 <dih> april 10 is read april the 10th 17:30:26 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:30:32 <Digitalfox> .28 million for fixing the glass.. 17:30:39 <dih> hehe 17:30:43 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:31:00 <dih> @openttd commit 17:31:01 <DorpsGek> dih: Commit by rubidium :: r13684 /branches/noai (115 files in 10 dirs) (2008-07-09 13:32:13 UTC) 17:31:02 <DorpsGek> dih: [NoAI] -Sync: with trunk r13599:13683. 17:33:02 <Digitalfox> More photos http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=20396 .. They totally ruined the F22.. .28 million to fix? yeah right.. 17:35:27 <peter1138> nice 17:35:32 <peter1138> all that mess :) 17:37:54 <Digitalfox> peter1138 if you watch the pictures, do you believe 1 million will fix that F22? When each F22 total cost is 137.5 million$ .. 17:38:04 <peter1138> no idea 17:38:28 <peter1138> just needs a clean up and a new canopy ;) 17:38:45 <Digitalfox> lol.. nope http://images.spaceref.com/news/2006/f22.48.jpg 17:39:55 <peter1138> pah, surface scratch ;) 17:40:00 <Digitalfox> Well now I should return sleep, to my dream that someday Portugal air forces will have at least 1 F-22 even if a US retired on.. 17:42:24 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfg125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:42:30 <Mchl> hello 17:45:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> german air forces had several MIG 29 17:45:34 <MorgyN> are you adding a "declare war" patch? \o/ 17:45:44 * MorgyN outfits his trains with guns 17:45:49 <Wolf01> I have several aircrafts on ace combat 17:46:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> * MorgyN outfits his trains with guns <- hm... there was that game once... transarctica or something 17:47:57 <Wolf01> that was not a game, it was called WWII :P 17:48:21 * peter1138 yawns 17:49:20 <eekee> I remember wanting to get transarctica & never getting it 17:49:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/635/Transarctica.html 17:49:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> i remember having the original once 17:50:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> but i have no idea where it's gone 17:50:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> probably my brother had it 17:50:56 <Mchl> <Eddi|zuHause3> german air forces had several MIG 29 <- All your MiGs are now belong to us :D 17:51:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> i know... these idiots sold them in favour of developing the way inferior eurofighter 17:51:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> inferiour? 17:51:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> whatever... 17:51:52 <Mchl> crappy 17:55:24 <ln> it has to be better as it has EURO in its name. 17:55:48 <Digitalfox> Eddi|zuHause3 isn't eurofighter in development for a decade or so.. When is it going to be finally introduced.. 17:56:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> how should i know? 17:56:32 <Digitalfox> never mind it seems 103 are already in use.. 17:57:18 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:25 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:03:51 <Wolf01> http://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/View.aspx?fid=1159&msg=2629842 ahahahah 18:05:01 <Wolf01> (that one and the others below it) 18:12:00 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54A85.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:14:11 <Mchl> "I suspect God is an Observer Pattern." <- lol 18:23:37 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:54 *** planetmaker is now known as pm|away 18:24:32 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:33 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:29:38 <peter1138> hmm 18:29:49 <peter1138> ror doesn't implement clutch slip :o 18:30:08 <hylje> ror doesn't implement quantum physics 18:30:14 <hylje> can't have LHC 18:30:53 <Mchl> ror? 18:32:24 <Belugas> Resume On Random 18:33:21 <Belugas> http://www.rigsofrods.com/ 18:35:40 <peter1138> pah 18:35:44 <peter1138> some things are just not right 18:35:48 <peter1138> for instance 18:36:03 <peter1138> changing down or up a gear makes the wheels change speed, not the engine 18:37:42 <Wolf01> that's right, if the right side of the gearbox can't change the speed, it must do it the other side :D 18:38:17 <Wolf01> at least without clutch 18:38:31 <peter1138> that's the other thing 18:38:31 <Wolf01> and driving on ice 18:38:39 <Wolf01> and on a pc game 18:38:47 <peter1138> hehe 18:39:01 <peter1138> the clutch is respresented on screen in an analogue manner 18:39:07 <peter1138> varying stages of clutchness 18:39:16 <peter1138> but underneath it appears to be binary, on or off 18:39:20 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:07 <peter1138> with minimal amount of clutch and high revs, it should be burning out the clutch, not spinning the wheels 18:40:21 <peter1138> hmm 18:40:27 <peter1138> maybe a ror forum would be more useful ;) 18:42:23 <eekee> hmm, jackrabbit clutch eh? 18:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... YaST does not react good if you accidently click "uninstall all" instead of "update if newer available" 18:51:00 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 18:51:33 <KingJ> Is it me, or do boats tend to group together? 18:52:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes. 18:52:45 <frosch123> All vehicles tend to group together because of station rating. 18:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> but you might need to check your multiple personality syndrome if you are grouping together :p 18:53:22 <KingJ> lol 18:53:44 <KingJ> Is is possible to un-group? Looks ugly and makes my speakers crackle horribly when you get 30 hovercraft making their sound at once heh 18:54:01 <frosch123> Timetables 18:54:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> check the setting "improved loading algorithm" 18:54:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> but that might not apply to passengers, i don't know... 18:55:04 <KingJ> Improved loading algoritm is off 18:55:10 <KingJ> I'll put it on 18:55:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> if you use full load, that will only one vehicle load at a time, so they are not all full at the same time 18:56:11 <KingJ> No full load, just Goto A then B 18:56:38 <eekee> improved loading prevents ggrouping 18:57:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> once upon a time there was a setting for auto-spacing of vehicles when they have a timetable 18:57:59 <eekee> btw would it be possible for ottd not to play more than one of any given sample at a time? It's impossible to control the volume on level crossings & all sorts of things, as well as takeoff sounds 18:59:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> afaik there is such a limit, but it is probably hardcoded 19:00:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13685 /branches/0.6/src/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) 19:00:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:00:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: In the case that elrails and 'realistic' acceleration are disabled all electrified engines would have no power on load, until the vehicle got turned around, loaded or got into a depot [FS#2102] (r13681) 19:00:08 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Saving TTD imported games in recession failed due to wrong (and unneeded) type conversions in the saveload code [FS#2131] (r13679) 19:00:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Inactive companies from old (TTD) saves could be marked active in some cases, which then loads garbage in their statistics and such [FS#2126] (r13676) 19:00:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Desync when building electrified trains on a dedicated server that was started with electrification disabled [FS#2122] (r13673) 19:00:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Clear the memory for the new AI during the loading of a savegame so it 19:00:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> i smell a release (candidate) baking 19:01:23 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:45 <eekee> hmmm 19:02:00 *** Cyclonerotary [~pokerking@host217-44-19-162.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:51 <Belugas> eekee, everything is possible. Just needs to be done. Volunteer? 19:07:32 <eekee> Belugas: yeah, if I can understand the code. Also when my neck's not hrting too badly. The thing is, I thought it was done. I used a version around 9xxx which didn't have that problem 19:10:29 *** EER [~some@s5592681b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:13:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13686 /branches/0.6/src/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) 19:13:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:13:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Memory leak when NewGRFs got forcefully disabled and they defined GOTO labels (r13675) 19:13:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash when drawing a non-real sprite caused by NewGRF interference [FS#2127] (r13674) 19:13:35 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Disable static NewGRFs when non-static NewGRFs query them in the context 19:13:37 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: of network games. This makes it impossible for static NewGRFs to disable 19:13:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: non-static NewGRFs and 'bad' things happening because the non-static NewGRF 19:15:32 <Belugas> sorry for you neck, eekee. maybe it's something that has been triggered due to big maps or something 19:15:58 *** Zeal [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13687 /branches/0.6/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp signal.cpp): 19:16:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:16:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Signals were not updated correctly when a player removed a non-existing track piece (r13626) 19:16:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Signal states could be propagated through waypoints built in orthogonal axis (r13589) 19:16:00 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Track was not removed on company bankrupcy when there was a ship on lower halftile (r13488) 19:16:01 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Let ships also navigate on half-tile sloped watery rail tiles (r13485) 19:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... what can i do to a program when kill -9 does not have an effect? 19:17:56 <Prof_Frink> kill --with-fire 19:18:20 <Rubidium> kill -9 -1 maybe? 19:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> lmao :p 19:18:34 <Prof_Frink> Or find out what it's blocking on, and fix it 19:18:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was trying to be less drastic :p 19:19:06 <Prof_Frink> But yeah. `sudo reboot` should work 19:19:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> i was running "zypper update" and it said install failed with rpm getting signal 11 19:19:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> and now an rpm instance is sitting there 19:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> doing nothing 19:21:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13688 /branches/0.6/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 19:21:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:21:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: If the first bridge can not be build for a given length, then none of the 19:21:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: other bridges can. Effectively meaning that if someone replaces the first bridge 19:21:07 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: with a bridge that can be only 3 tiles longs then only other bridges that can be 19:21:09 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: 3 tiles long will be buildable, but only if they are 3 tiles long [FS#2100] 19:21:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: (r13611) 19:21:21 *** [Nemesis] [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:01 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause3: Oh, that's easy then. Install *buntu. 19:22:26 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:51 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfg125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:02 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-235-173.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:25:21 *** Zeal [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:26:57 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfg125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:27:56 <kyevan> Heh, oops. Last revision last night was unbuildable? ;) 19:30:34 *** [Nemesis] [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:30:46 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13689 /branches/0.6/ (8 files in 3 dirs): 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Server crashing when banning the rconning client (r13661) 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Incorrect usage of strtoul (r13508) 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Crash when one tries to raise the nothern corner of MP_VOID tiles (i.e. the southern corner of the tiles on the southern map edge) in the scenario editor [FS#2106] (r13624) 19:30:59 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Division by zero when one would press 'd' (skip order) when there's no order (r13409) 19:32:11 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:32 <Belugas> kyevan, looks more to me like a "nothing to build since no (significant) change been done" 19:33:36 <Belugas> but i may be wrong... 19:34:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:17 <Rubidium> actually... it's more like the compile farm stopped for unknown reasons 19:34:58 <peter1138> disk space again? heh 19:35:29 *** Cyclonerotary [~pokerking@host217-44-19-162.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:37:56 <Belugas> or i goofed, but somehow, i doubt that 19:37:58 <Belugas> notthis time 19:38:27 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:38:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-41-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:38:49 <Rubidium> Belugas: then we'd have compile failures 19:38:58 <Rubidium> and we don't have those 19:39:17 <Belugas> indeed, that's why i doubt it's my fault :) 19:39:42 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: Not if there wasn't enough space to store the compile logs 19:40:04 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13690 /branches/0.6/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 19:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [0.6] -Backport from trunk: 19:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Bus/truck forgetting go-to-depot order when entering a non-drivethrough road stop [FS#2117] (r13664) 19:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: Only the front of a RV would be considered when determining to what cargos a vehicle can be refitted instead of all cargos [FS#2109] (r13622) 19:40:11 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: - Fix: RVs continueing onto next DT station when they are build adjacent to them [FS#2040] (r13581) 19:40:16 <Rubidium> well... the win32 compile log exists (and is up to date) 19:40:26 <Rubidium> however it doesn't show on the nightly server 19:40:40 <Rubidium> so somewhere between the compile and the transfer it went wrong 19:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... i give up... 19:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> brb 19:51:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75CB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:54:34 *** ecke1 [~ecke@213.195.230.1] has joined #openttd 19:54:34 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:54:53 *** LA [~purple@ip210.cab63.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:56:55 *** LA [~purple@ip210.cab63.mus.starman.ee] has quit [] 20:05:47 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:51 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:50 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:31:32 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-244-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:41 *** TiberiusTeng [~Tiberius@sbt.idv.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:36:08 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76FF8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:36:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ok... now it's getting scary... reboot failed while fsck-ing the harddrives 20:38:14 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: The phrase is "Oh fsck" 20:39:04 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not a "vital" disk... just my brand new 1TB SATA disk holding all my TV recordings 20:39:06 <Wolf01> I read "while fucking the harddrives", then I read better 20:39:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and not even the fsck failed, it just hung 20:39:36 <Eddi|zuHause> for minutes 20:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause> without any output 20:39:46 <Eddi|zuHause> then i unplugged the disk 20:40:20 <Eddi|zuHause> while on that matter... is SATA hot-pluggable? 20:40:27 <valhallasw> yep 20:40:31 <KingJ> sorta 20:40:36 <valhallasw> if the OS supports it, at least 20:40:43 <valhallasw> so windows probably fails -_- 20:40:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the OS is brand new 20:40:47 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: ubuntu? 20:40:52 <Eddi|zuHause> no, suse 20:41:00 <ln> hmm, anyway, disable fsck. 20:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause> won't help much if the disk fails :p 20:42:00 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: i've seen case(s) where e2fsck takes lim t->infinity, but the disk is fine, and disabling fsck is a workaround. 20:42:28 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i admit it is a while since i rebooted, but it was fine all the previous times 20:42:55 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: the hot-pluggability of SATA also depends on whether your SATA controller supports hot-plugging. many of them don't. 20:43:21 <Eddi|zuHause> so... if i plug in the SATA data+power cable into the drive, does my computer blow up? 20:43:30 <Belugas> Freaking L A Z I N E S S !!!! http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=38360 20:44:24 <ln> hard to tell. i'd hope the worst case is that the drive is not recognized without a reboot, but... 20:44:24 *** thingwath [~thingwath@heimdall.palisada.net] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 20:49:12 <Eddi|zuHause> ata4: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300) 20:50:47 <Eddi|zuHause> sd 3:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk 20:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause> appears to have not blown up ;) 20:50:58 <ln> great success 20:51:05 <Ammler> Belugas: that is noai-ai for 20:51:14 <Ammler> playing ttd for you. ;-) 20:52:59 <Wolf01> 'night 20:53:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host126-174-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:54:14 <ln> @seen Bjarni 20:54:15 <DorpsGek> ln: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 0 days, 0 hours, 46 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Bjarni> I didn't have any 20:54:21 <ln> a whole week! 20:54:39 * Rubidium slaps ln 20:54:53 <Rubidium> you should've asked 46 minutes and 21 seconds earlier 20:55:08 <ln> yes, my bad 20:56:06 <Mirrakor> quick let's try all other nicks, maybe we find one close enough 20:56:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13691 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: make it easier to determine whether a command is ran in the context of autoreplace or not 20:56:53 <Eddi|zuHause> Mirrakor: we had that already 20:56:54 <ln> SmatZ: run 20:57:53 * SmatZ slaps ln 20:58:11 <ln> SmatZ: i mean, "run" and not "ran" 20:58:30 <SmatZ> I know 20:58:43 <Eddi|zuHause> how is output of fsck supposed to look like? it says "Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes" without any status information 20:58:49 <EER> you should load before you run 20:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause> run, fsck, run 20:59:14 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: it should continue with Pass 2: .... Pass 3: 20:59:30 <valhallasw> Eddi|zuHause: IDE officially does not support hotswapping, but it generally works. Windows even detects 'new hardware!' 20:59:48 <valhallasw> not advisable though, as the IDE cable is hard to attach correctly at once -_- 21:00:06 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: i mean, there is not supposed to be any "10% done" message? 21:00:27 <valhallasw> try -v 21:00:36 <Eddi|zuHause> or anything -- besides CPU usage -- indicating that it is still doing anything 21:00:41 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: nope, unless you gave some (most likely undocumented) parameter to get a progress bar. 21:00:43 <valhallasw> probably spams you screen all under, but hey, who cares. 21:01:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember reiserfsck being more verbose ;) 21:01:18 <ln> yeah, and see what happened to nina reiser then. 21:01:43 * valhallasw slaps ln around with his predictability-meter 21:02:28 <ccfreak2k> However, on supported motherboard, PCI is hotswappable. 21:03:05 <valhallasw> not exactly 'hot'. the PCI slot is disabled entirely before swapping 21:03:21 <valhallasw> let's call it warm-swappable -_- 21:03:34 <ln> i once removed an IDE drive during DOS scandisk, and scandisk happily continued way beyond 100%. 21:04:12 <ccfreak2k> valhallasw, I'd call it hot swapping because the machine is still "hot". 21:04:37 <peter1138> i once installed a ISA soundcard with the pc still on 21:04:43 <peter1138> by mistake 21:05:04 <SmatZ> once I tried if floppy is hot swappable 21:05:06 <SmatZ> it isn't 21:05:07 <ln> haha, funny star trek discussion in dexter 4x07. 21:05:08 <SmatZ> and it burnt 21:05:19 <peter1138> windows automatically installed the drivers and it worked without a reboot 21:05:27 <peter1138> wasn't a PnP card either 21:06:28 <ln> errr... dexter 2x07. 21:06:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you are half a year behind, ln 21:07:02 <peter1138> which one's dexter? 21:07:08 <peter1138> is it like dexter's laboratory? 21:07:27 <Eddi|zuHause> no, dexter is a phorensic employee for the miami police department 21:07:34 <ln> i've been busy during the past months, but now i've got some time, and i found a web site. 21:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause> and during nights, he is a mass murderer 21:08:27 <peter1138> hm 21:08:36 <peter1138> sounds implausible 21:08:48 <Eddi|zuHause> you should watch it, it's genious ;) 21:09:15 <peter1138> hm 21:09:28 <peter1138> dunno if it's broadcast 21:09:29 <valhallasw> Eddi|zuHause: does dexter create file systems? 21:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it does not appear like it :p 21:09:53 <peter1138> hmm? 21:10:25 <KingJ> Can you reset what a station accepts? 21:10:37 <valhallasw> there is a correlation between file system programmers and killers. didn't you know? 21:10:41 <ln> i don't understand why anyone uses torrent when it's possible to download episodes in HD through HTTP. 21:10:55 * Belugas goes home enjoy the night all 21:11:01 <peter1138> nini Belugas 21:12:11 <ln> peter1138: and yeah, i can recommend Dexter, too. 21:12:58 *** pm|away is now known as planetmaker 21:18:32 *** Mirrakor [~linuser@p57B2E9E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:22:22 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:58 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: Prison Break s3 done [x], half of House M.D. s4, ~half of Dexter s2. 21:23:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i have actually never started prison break 21:24:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d000c11.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's still saying "Pass 1" 21:25:21 <Eddi|zuHause> how long is 1TB on 30MB/s? 21:26:14 <Eddi|zuHause> (1 TB) / (30 (MB / s)) = 9.70903704 hours 21:27:54 <ln> prison break is... is... not really bad, but they could have made it more compact and shorter without losing much. 21:28:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but it should actually only check the filesystem, not the data 21:28:13 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... it moved 21:28:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it's at Pass 5 now 21:28:48 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EE62.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 21:28:52 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 21:29:05 *** Mchl [~mchl@abfg125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:29:35 <Eddi|zuHause> /dev/sdd1: 201481/121847808 files (1.5% non-contiguous), 228204295/243663871 blocks 21:30:44 <valhallasw> ln: is s3 worth the time? 21:31:31 <ln> valhallasw: well, ... ... no. 21:32:12 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm still sad that they screwed up Heroes S2 so badly 21:32:43 <Eddi|zuHause> after that insanely good S1 21:33:41 <ln> will i regret if i download Heroes S2? 21:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it catches up in the last couple of episodes ;) 21:37:12 <Eddi|zuHause> but it does not nearly reach up to S1 21:38:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Tim Kring officially apologised for how they screwed up S2 21:38:54 <glx> I saw the 2 first episode yesterday, was not bad 21:39:03 <ln> but dubbed? 21:39:07 <glx> yes 21:39:14 <ln> too bad 21:39:21 <glx> but TV channel scheduled it at silly time 21:39:23 <glx> 0h15 21:39:39 <ln> anyway, did you know this actor of "Hiro" works part-time for Industrial Light and Magic? 21:40:05 <glx> it's available with subtitles with DVB-T but I don't have that on all TVs 21:40:14 <glx> ln: yes 21:40:22 <glx> and he played in scrubs too 21:41:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i knew that ;) 21:42:00 <Eddi|zuHause> the bad thing about S2 is that it takes very long to build up tension, they should have carried on the story much faster 21:42:29 <kyevan> AGH. Curse you, curse you all! 21:42:33 <kyevan> I didn't need another addiction! 21:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause> also, the interconnection between the storylines is not very "ausgeprÀgt" [don't know of a proper translated word] 21:42:56 <peter1138> oh, S2 sucked? 21:43:10 <ln> i also watched 1x01 of The Sarah Connor Chronicles the other day. 21:43:10 <peter1138> i managed to catch all of S1 which is quite a task for me 21:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause> S1 is awesome... ;) 21:44:17 <glx> indeed :) 21:44:19 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: the pilot is not really representative for what happens next, 21:44:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it developed for the better, though 21:45:50 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: the damn download site has broken urls for 1x02 and 1x03, cannot proceed. 21:46:42 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: that's why they use torrents :p 21:49:57 <ln> so 2007's 21:50:11 <Eddi|zuHause> all in all, i just had two series of "collateral damage" this season... 21:50:36 <Eddi|zuHause> bionic woman [which was kinda boring] and moonlight [which was good, but they axed it anyway] 21:51:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd recommend Pushing Daisies ;) 21:55:52 <ln> what about Jericho? 21:56:13 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't count ;) 21:56:24 <Eddi|zuHause> and i did not watch that (yet) 21:56:27 <glx> never seen the end (they stopped due to bad audience) 21:56:40 <ln> but i mean, is the S2 any better than S1? 21:56:43 *** GT [~GT@adsl-dc-4664d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:56:52 <glx> 2 episodes before the end of S1 21:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause> they stopped at 1x14 here 21:57:10 <Eddi|zuHause> and "promised" to broadcast the rest of S1 together with S2 21:58:09 <Eddi|zuHause> so they showed 14 episodes, and have another 15 episodes left now 21:59:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: rumor has it that S2 was worse because of significant budget cuts 21:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. former main actors getting very little screen time and stuff 22:00:08 <ln> great... so.. i won't waste my time on jericho anymore. 22:00:39 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's definitely over now ;) 22:00:43 *** mikl [~mikl@x1-6-00-14-bf-cc-78-b6.k706.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: mikl] 22:00:55 <ln> gotta go sleep now though 22:01:20 <peter1138> hmm, good idea 22:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> let's see what next season brings 22:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Knight Rider 22:01:44 <ln> spokoynyi nochi to all 22:01:58 <Prof_Frink> bless you 22:02:22 <Eddi|zuHause> spooky night as well ;) 22:02:33 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it's "ghost hour" now [0h-1h] 22:04:08 <peter1138> no, it's 11pm! 22:04:43 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 22:05:38 *** EER [~some@s5592681b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 22:11:31 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:31 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 22:13:32 *** dlunch [~dlunch@61.108.29.49] has joined #openttd 22:26:03 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179217090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 22:29:39 *** GT [~GT@adsl-dc-4664d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 22:31:45 <SmatZ> @seen yorick 22:31:46 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: yorick was last seen in #openttd 2 days, 2 hours, 57 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Yorick> badgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadger 22:31:49 <SmatZ> !seen yorick 22:32:01 <SmatZ> mushroommushroom 22:33:09 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@dslb-088-073-244-013.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:37:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 22:37:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:40:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:40:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:33 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:49:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54A85.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:11:46 *** semafor [~Jonas@ti400720a080-5096.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 23:16:21 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7C9AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:21:03 *** planetmaker is now known as pm|away 23:22:18 <semafor> Is there are roadmap for v 1.0? 23:22:28 <semafor> *a 23:23:36 <semafor> Or, does v1.0 exclude game files from the orignial ttd? 23:24:16 <Belugas> to be honest, there is no roadmap for v 1.0 23:24:44 <Belugas> don't even know if there will be one, of if we just keep on 0.9, 0.10 etc... 23:27:19 <Ammler> semafor: current version is as stable as Version 6.1, you can easy imagine ottd without the 0 in front. :-) 23:28:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EA62.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:03 <semafor> yeah, but that means no release party for a 1.0 version 23:30:40 <Ammler> they already made party for release 10000 23:30:52 <semafor> In Norway? 23:30:57 <semafor> Did I miss out? 23:31:06 <Ammler> in dutchieland, I guess. 23:31:07 <Belugas> no it was in netherlands 23:31:11 <rortom> :\ 23:31:17 <rortom> hi all 23:31:22 <rortom> who was there? :) 23:31:35 <Belugas> a few devs and a few users 23:31:45 <rortom> pics? :P 23:32:09 <Belugas> Rubidium, truebrain, blathijs, boekabart (i think) and... i must have forgot who else 23:32:16 <Belugas> no photos, aprat the cake itself 23:32:24 <rortom> some guy deleted our wiki yesterday to replace it with that text: "hello. my name is james. i think that everyone here is a nerd and thats why i have deleted this part of the wiki, just to help you become more normal. anyway, bye." 23:32:54 <rortom> :| 23:32:56 <Belugas> how "nice" 23:33:12 <Belugas> too bad you cannot trace him and do the same with his face 23:33:13 <Vikthor> I would be rather dead, than "normal" like him :p 23:33:47 <rortom> hehe 23:34:18 <Vikthor> Anyway, good night 23:34:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:35:16 <Belugas> tv time 23:35:30 <rortom> python spectator coding time :D 23:35:42 *** llugo_ [~lugo@mgdb-4db871b7.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39:58 <Ammler> bed time.