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00:00:37 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 00:01:41 <rortom> yorick found a bug in the ottd bot :) 00:01:57 <Lachie> but it's at http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=22846&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=200 if you're interested. 00:01:57 <rortom> it should work will all servers now :) 00:02:23 <rortom> also im submitting a patch now 00:04:47 <glx> Lachie: I know where to find it (I helped for the windows support ;) ) 00:05:25 <rortom> added: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2151 00:05:39 <glx> rortom: we have #openttd.notice ;) 00:05:47 <rortom> okok ;) 00:06:24 <rortom> i hope its small enough to pass QA :) 00:09:09 *** Digitalfox_ [~Digitalfo@bl7-183-195.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:11:17 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-190-84.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:12:07 <rortom> also the server does not restrict chat message properly 00:12:33 <rortom> i can sent "NETWORK_ACTION_GIVE_MONEY" with some money as argument 00:12:53 <rortom> and it comes out as fake message, so no cehcks i guess 00:14:23 <rortom> if you want a demonstration, just say an IP:port and you are able to test yourself :) 00:15:27 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:48 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 00:16:40 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:46 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:22:25 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BA07F.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 00:23:13 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27:00 *** Sacro1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:27:15 <glx> rortom: as spectator? 00:28:56 <rortom> yes 00:29:45 *** Digitalfox_ [~Digitalfo@bl7-183-195.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:32:25 <Ammler> rortom: ps.openttdcoop.org:3979 00:34:07 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:08 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75EC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:34:22 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:35 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37C4A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:43 <glx> rortom: does your "client" needs a specific version? 00:36:54 <rortom> no 00:37:04 <rortom> i will let it join soon :) 00:38:51 <rortom> just found a tiny thing i want to improve first 00:39:45 <glx> rortom: glx.dnsalias.net:3979 00:40:32 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75548.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:47:16 <glx> rortom: tell me when you're ready (I'll start the server ;) ) 00:48:59 <rortom> ok, i just found my bug 00:49:01 <rortom> :| 00:51:51 <glx> hmm I think it won't really give money but just tell it gave it 00:52:09 <rortom> yes 00:52:15 <rortom> ok, ready? 00:52:53 <glx> started 00:53:38 <rortom> connected 00:53:59 <rortom> say !test2 00:54:08 <rortom> to !test5 00:54:57 <glx> !test5 is nice :) 00:55:04 <rortom> test5 = kick i hope :) 00:55:09 <glx> yes 00:55:18 <rortom> it tries to place a sign 00:55:47 <rortom> so you saw the problem i guess :) 00:56:00 <glx> it's not really a problem 00:56:03 <rortom> yes 00:56:44 <rortom> but its also not good that its not checked? 00:57:50 <rortom> @ ammler: your server is password protected you gave me :) 00:59:09 <Ammler> [02:57] <PublicServer> ottd-bot has left the game (connection lost) 00:59:19 <Ammler> :-) 00:59:22 <rortom> sure, i have no password ... :p 01:00:01 <glx> rortom: rejoin my server (I added some breakpoints ;) ) 01:00:51 <rortom> ok 01:01:13 <rortom> the irc bridge is not fully working yet 01:01:13 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:02:35 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/rortom 01:03:16 <rortom> ok 01:05:13 <rortom> @glx, say when done ;) 01:15:05 <glx> need to modify code 01:15:13 <glx> so server down for now 01:22:43 <glx> rortom: retry :) 01:24:34 <rortom> ok 01:24:56 <rortom> joined 01:25:25 <glx> seems to be fixed 01:26:12 <rortom> nice :) 01:26:23 <rortom> so at least the bot helped a bit ;) 01:27:04 <glx> but I think there are other messages unwanted from spectator 01:28:39 <rortom> could be 01:28:47 <rortom> @ammler joining... 01:31:16 <rortom> @ammler: wrong password? :\ 01:33:03 <Ammler> rortom: it changes every 5mins 01:33:07 <rortom> :| 01:33:14 <rortom> pls gimme new one then ;) 01:33:14 <Ammler> I am not there anymore... 01:33:21 <rortom> got it 01:33:35 <Ammler> just reload 01:33:50 <rortom> done 01:33:57 <rortom> its on the server 01:34:10 <rortom> join #ap+ 01:34:20 <rortom> thats the irc bridge channel :) 01:34:44 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 01:36:02 <glx> your bot uses NETWORK_ACTION_SERVER_MESSAGE to send message it seems 01:36:38 <Ammler> the chat bridge would be nice for admins, which aren't able to install autopilot 01:37:46 <rortom> yes 01:37:51 <rortom> im still working on it 01:38:03 <rortom> @ glx, i will look 01:38:32 <rortom> payload = packExt('bbHz', NETWORK_ACTION_GIVE_MONEY, DESTTYPE_BROADCAST, 0, "1783424") 01:38:32 <rortom> self.sendMsg(PACKET_CLIENT_CHAT, payload_size, payload, type=M_TCP) 01:38:36 <rortom> yes, it does 01:39:28 <glx> wrong paste ;) 01:40:09 <rortom> indeed :) 01:40:12 <rortom> now i got you :) 01:40:27 <rortom> the NETWORK_ACTION_SERVER_MESSAGE is nice as it hides the botname itself 01:40:42 <rortom> thats integrating IRC better 01:46:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E31A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:55:36 <glx> rortom: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/filter_network_chat.diff <-- that will kill your bot ;) 01:57:09 <rortom> nice :) 01:57:32 <rortom> i added the functions to test ottd 01:57:41 <rortom> to its good that this is getting fixed :) 01:57:55 <rortom> *so 01:58:45 <glx> theorically it will now be unable to say anything (as it doesn't 'chat') 01:59:37 <rortom> good :) 02:01:53 <glx> hehe it's possible to team-chat without being in the team 02:01:53 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02:10 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:04:05 <glx> rejoin if you want 02:04:48 <Yexo> glx: that may actually be wanted behaviour 02:05:43 <Yexo> there even is a console command for that 02:05:54 <glx> yes and the client list gui too 02:06:14 <Yexo> the client list gui sends a message to one client, not the team the client is in 02:06:19 <rortom> @ glx, will join in a second 02:06:37 <glx> Yexo: check better :) 02:07:00 <glx> there are private, team and all 02:07:23 <Yexo> I see :) 02:08:09 <glx> so you can send a message to all members of the other company if you want 02:08:27 <glx> but indeed that can be useful 02:11:00 <rortom> @glx: connected 02:11:11 <glx> it is quite silent now ;) 02:11:20 <rortom> see #ap+ 02:11:34 <glx> on oftc? 02:11:46 <rortom> yes 02:35:29 <rortom> gn8 02:35:32 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7C777.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 02:50:22 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:00:56 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F578A0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:42 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54B50.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:20:16 *** curson_ [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 03:20:16 *** curson_ [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [] 03:23:00 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:36:50 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 04:00:12 *** Sacro1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:13:39 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47:31 *** Doorslammer|BRSet [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:49:08 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:49:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 04:51:40 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:49 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:52 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 05:42:39 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:37 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 06:00:17 *** bleepy [~bleepy@5ad45699.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 06:00:46 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 06:08:32 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 06:12:25 *** gregor__ [~gregor@xdsl-87-78-20-147.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 06:18:52 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:19:27 *** gregor_ [~gregor@xdsl-87-78-35-108.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:49:25 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 06:49:32 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 06:55:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd7af.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 07:02:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host107-16-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:03:28 <Wolf01> helllo 07:03:38 <Wolf01> yes, with 3 l 07:05:48 <gregor__> ... 07:07:56 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 07:29:19 <Lachie> :D 07:31:07 *** Yorick [~Y0R1CK@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:34:54 * Lachie wines it up 07:35:28 <Yorick> I feel like I'm banned 07:37:26 * Lachie bans Yorick 07:37:35 <Lachie> why would you feel like you're banned? 07:37:42 <Yorick> check the banlist 07:38:09 <Lachie> hmm 07:38:15 <Lachie> appears to be. 07:40:47 <Yorick> TrueBrain showed up ^^ 07:41:54 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13752 /trunk/src/ (4 files): -Fix [FS#2130]: correctly restore conditional orders when they are put 'into' backup. 07:54:55 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.] 08:25:27 *** Tefad_ [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:30:52 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:51 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:53:34 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:19:03 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051075119.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:19:10 *** fmauNekAway is now known as fmauNeko 09:20:17 <fmauNeko> hello :) 09:22:38 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BB9B5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:29:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:35:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:37:26 *** Doorslammer|online [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-128.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:40:44 *** Doorslammer|BRSet [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-248.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:53 <dih> [11:44] <PublicServer> Progman has left the game (wrong player-id in DoCommand) 09:45:01 <dih> first time i actually got to see one of those :-D 09:45:17 <hylje> elaborate error messages 09:45:30 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:46:12 *** Doorslammer|online is now known as Doorslammer|BRSet 09:46:17 <Yorick> dih: was that on clean trunk? 09:47:19 <dih> Yorick, shut up 09:47:24 <dih> what else should it be? 09:47:32 <dih> at least on the server it was ;-) 09:47:44 <Yorick> patched server? patched client? 09:47:52 <dih> Yorick, i know how it can happen! 09:48:01 <dih> it's just that i never saw it happen 09:48:09 <dih> gnah 09:48:10 <dih> man 09:48:14 <dih> kid! 09:48:33 <Yorick> what's bothering you? 09:49:34 <dih> your unquallified replies :-P 09:50:02 <dih> the fact that you join channels you have no business in and other stuff too 09:50:46 <Yorick> what channels? 09:50:57 <dih> bugger off kiddo 09:53:20 <Osai> hi. is anyone familiar with road stops and the queueing behavior of busses? 09:53:55 <Osai> we are studying the queueing of busses and some things are really magical 09:54:43 *** nkx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:54:43 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:57:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm quite sure that ban-evasion qualifies for an eternal ban 09:58:14 <Yorick> Eddi: I'm pretty sure he needs a reason to ban 09:58:59 <frosch123> Osai: It only works properly with standard road stops, i.e. not drive-through. 09:59:00 *** Ammler is now known as Schweiz 09:59:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> Yorick: i'm pretty sure being an op is enough reason he needs... 09:59:25 <Osai> yeah, I expected that 09:59:58 *** Schweiz is now known as Ammler 10:00:31 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:01:32 <Osai> - static const KeyToEvent keytoevent[] = { 10:01:33 <Osai> - {'D', OrderClick_Skip}, 10:01:33 <Osai> - {'F', OrderClick_Delete}, 10:01:33 <Osai> - {'G', OrderClick_Goto}, 10:01:33 <Osai> - {'H', OrderClick_Nonstop}, 10:01:34 <Osai> - {'J', OrderClick_FullLoad}, 10:01:34 <Osai> - {'K', OrderClick_Unload}, 10:01:36 <Osai> - //{'?', OrderClick_Transfer}, 10:01:36 <Osai> - //('?', OrderClick_Service}, 10:01:38 <Osai> ouch sorry 10:01:38 <Osai> -.- 10:01:40 <Osai> wrong channel 10:02:09 * Osai slaps himself 10:03:22 <frosch123> Osai: It tries to equally distribute the vehicles to the two loading bays of each stop, also by evaluating the air-distance between vehicle and stop. But it does not know about the road-distance and esp. not about the direction a drive-through stop is reachable (i.e. which bay will be entered) 10:05:40 <Osai> okay.. thx fyi 10:10:35 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:10:35 *** nkx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:13:54 <dih> Yorick: i need no reason at all to ban who i like on the channels i have the possibility to 10:20:47 <dih> Eddi|zuHause3, the nice thing about banning yorick is, he has a static ip :-D 10:21:07 <Yorick> argh 10:21:38 <Celestar> michi_cc: you happen to be around? 10:21:43 <Yorick> the unprotected wireless neightbours do not 10:22:02 <dih> no but nobody else uses tiscaly.nl 10:22:04 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:22:12 <Yorick> dih: neither do I 10:22:17 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:22:21 <dih> wanadoo 10:22:24 <dih> so 10:22:29 <Celestar> frosch123: ? 10:22:37 <frosch123> ping 10:22:41 <Yorick> the neightbours dont use wanadoo 10:23:06 <Yorick> and you can't go banning 1/3 of the netherlands 10:23:18 <dih> you wanna watch me? 10:23:22 <Yorick> no 10:23:31 <dih> we have banned all of alaska because of one single idiot 10:23:32 <Yorick> but thank you for the offer :) 10:23:35 <Celestar> frosch123: multistop does not evaluate the air distance in the slot assignment 10:23:54 <Yorick> dih: nobody lives in alaska :P 10:23:56 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 10:24:17 *** Celestar_ [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d876124.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:24 *** Celestar_ is now known as CelestarT42p 10:25:08 <CelestarT42p> frosch123: it uses the "pathed" distance. 10:25:10 <dih> interesting nick change there 10:25:45 <CelestarT42p> when drive-through road stops were added, multistop was never (properly) adapted to use it 10:26:27 <dih> @seen Bjarni 10:26:27 <DorpsGek> dih: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Bjarni> I didn't have any 10:26:39 <dih> Celestar, can that still be done? (easily?) 10:26:49 <dih> or rather CelestarT42p 10:26:52 <frosch123> CelestarT42p: ah, ok, agreed 10:27:19 <CelestarT42p> dih: I'm not sure. I'll have a look at it asap (next weekend) 10:27:51 <CelestarT42p> dih: it was THOUSANDS of revisions ago that I added multistop :D 10:28:14 <CelestarT42p> dih: I must somehow only take the reachable bay(s) into account 10:29:04 <frosch123> dih: roadveh_cmd OnNewDay() make RoadFindPathToStop() and RoadStop::num_vehicles aware of the drive-through bay 10:29:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> if you calculate the paths anyway, why not calculate two paths, one for each enter direction 10:29:41 <CelestarT42p> dih: they are? 10:30:02 <CelestarT42p> frosch123: they are or they need to be? 10:30:08 <CelestarT42p> meh. MAJOR yapp messup here 10:30:12 <frosch123> they need to be 10:31:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> yapp can block easily if you don't pay attention 10:31:34 <CelestarT42p> Eddi|zuHause3: not block. the PBS blocked is not reveserved by anything, but no train enters it (they all "wait for a free path") 10:31:41 <Ammler> isn't it the problme, that the RVs calculate the path very early, (when they leave the station) 10:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> CelestarT42p: hmm, yes, i heard about issues like that... 10:32:10 <Ammler> they should recalculate it right before entering the new station area. 10:32:11 <CelestarT42p> meh. autoreplace should not start illegal trains (i.e. wrong length) 10:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> CelestarT42p: afaik the problem is that DBSetXL does not properly enforce that rule 10:35:08 <CelestarT42p> Eddi|zuHause3: I also wish I could build 12-unit ICE3s 10:35:14 <CelestarT42p> not only 8 and 16 10:35:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can, but they look ugly ;) 10:35:53 <CelestarT42p> yeah.very ugly 10:36:08 <CelestarT42p> but expanding my 6-tile stations to 8 is close to impossible 10:36:17 <CelestarT42p> hm .. is the ICE-TD tilting? 10:36:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> my current game is prepared for 8 tile trains (mostly) 10:37:01 <CelestarT42p> I had a game for 4 and 8 tiles 10:37:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> the real one yes, i believe, but i don't think the DBSetXL implements that 10:37:07 <Ammler> Celestar 10:37:10 <CelestarT42p> this one has 4 and 6 10:37:12 <CelestarT42p> yes Ammler ? 10:37:18 <Ammler> aren't there "half" ICEs? 10:38:14 <CelestarT42p> IRL? 10:38:26 <Ammler> no, in the set... 10:38:34 <CelestarT42p> yeah. but they are butt-ugly 10:38:50 <Ammler> indeed, they are. 10:39:15 <CelestarT42p> they do not qualify as an acceptable solution to the problem :D 10:40:23 *** Belugas_Gone [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:42:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> i wish wagons could be 50% longer 10:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> would look much better 10:43:17 *** Belugas_Gone [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:43:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:43:19 <CelestarT42p> hm .. about 4m high and 26.7m long 10:43:25 <CelestarT42p> that's close to 1:7 10:44:11 <Mark> hm, does anyone know the "real" speed of trains? 10:44:20 <Mark> like how many tiles a 100km/h train travels in a day 10:45:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> CelestarT42p: yes, but 4 tile long wagons would be kind of over the top :p 10:45:39 *** AmixE90 [~AmixE@13-128-255.ggsn.netcom.no] has joined #openttd 10:46:14 <AmixE90> Ive made a subway alike tram ;) 10:46:39 <Mark> nevermind my question, i found the answer on the wiki 10:46:42 <AmixE90> www.tv7norge.com/MorphOS/Apr2008.png 10:46:43 <Mark> didn't expect it to be there 10:46:56 <AmixE90> Does the link work? 10:46:57 <Yorick> Amix: 404 10:47:05 <AmixE90> Hmrf 10:47:10 <AmixE90> Try a 10:47:19 <AmixE90> Apr1994.png 10:48:53 <AmixE90> Works here now 10:49:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... my train-"subway" looked more like a subway than that... and even there people complained it would not look like a subway at all 10:49:10 <Yorick> 200 10:50:08 <AmixE90> 200? 10:51:11 <Yorick> yes, the statuscode for OK 10:52:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Erlangen%20Transport,%2012.%20Jul%201933.png 10:52:49 <Yorick> nice :) 10:54:31 <AmixE90> Paste it again :) 10:54:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> only that a normal subway would never use catenary 10:55:18 <gregor__> RM? Reichsmark? :S 10:55:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> why not? 10:55:37 <AmixE90> I like the nightly builds much better ;) 10:55:59 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064007.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:56:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> that was not exactly a nightly... 10:57:57 <AmixE90> Eddi|zuHause3: my construction is more like tram-metro alike system 11:00:21 <AmixE90> I like the one way arrows better in nightly etc 11:00:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> the one way arrows can be changed by newgrf 11:01:07 <AmixE90> Ahh 11:01:39 <Ammler> did that change? 11:03:49 <frosch123> the gui changed somewhen 11:03:57 <Yorick> is there any way I could skip the map download? 11:04:14 <frosch123> Yorick: start a server 11:04:28 <Yorick> I mean, as a client 11:04:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> what exactly do you want to achieve with that? 11:05:15 <Yorick> I got a ottd-lib.py from rortom :) 11:05:24 <Yorick> I'm coding a working client with it 11:05:43 <Yorick> from a base he gave me 11:06:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> that does not really answer the question... 11:06:32 <Yorick> skipping the map download...because a bot does not need map download 11:07:02 <CelestarT42p> food time 11:10:16 <CelestarT42p> hm DBSetXL missing the BR423 11:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> 425, but yes ;) 11:11:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> MB promised that the next version would have such trains 11:11:56 <CelestarT42p> because I can't replace the BR420s with anything (= 11:12:25 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83337.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:12:32 <CelestarT42p> and no I mean the BR423 11:12:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> i hope he'll include the E 04 ;) 11:13:14 <CelestarT42p> and the ICE4/NGT? :P 11:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... i have not heard about that one 11:13:51 <CelestarT42p> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baureihe_423 11:14:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8175B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:14:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:14:01 <CelestarT42p> the DLR is doing studies for the ICE successor 11:14:19 <CelestarT42p> but it's getting pretty uneconomical up there 11:14:47 <CelestarT42p> at 400km/h, a high-speed train has about the CO2 per passenger-kilometer than an Airbus 321 11:15:00 <CelestarT42p> sentence.repair(); 11:15:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i meant http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBAG_Baureihe_425 ;) 11:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> but there is probably not much of a difference 11:17:05 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 11:17:08 <hylje> yay for a local traffic multiple unit 11:17:19 <AmixE90> Would be fun to have a openttd fight in only trams and busses sometime :) 11:17:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> since when does openttd have "fights"? 11:18:02 <CelestarT42p> the 423 and 425 are pretty similar, except for the interior 11:18:11 <AmixE90> Always 11:18:20 <AmixE90> Transport fight 11:18:24 <AmixE90> :) 11:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> the openttdcoop guys have done a truck only game 11:19:02 <hylje> how efficient are RVs when it comes to simulating them? 11:25:07 <michi_cc> CelestarT42p: pong? 11:28:31 <gregor__> emissions trading inside openttd would be nice :) 11:34:25 <hylje> "Remove absurd road-elements during the road construction" 11:35:28 <hylje> "Road vehicle queueing (with quantum effects)" 11:41:01 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F11B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:00 *** Doorslammer|BRSet is now known as Doorslammer|OTTD 12:11:55 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c897.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:18 <peter1138> Pom te pom 12:19:50 *** Osai is now known as Osai|away 12:20:38 * peter1138 mumbles about forgetting to disable the AI 12:20:46 <peter1138> Also I'm losing money :o 12:21:00 <rortom> hi peter :) 12:21:09 <rortom> money, wher? :P 12:21:24 <peter1138> -£7000 at the moment, with a full loan :o 12:21:33 <rortom> D: 12:21:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21:54 <peter1138> Mostly infrastructure, so can't sell to get money either. 12:22:48 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:22:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:27:30 <gregor__> !password 12:27:31 *** gregor__ was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. 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I think we accept as train seemed to easy :P 13:08:59 <planetmaker> +o 13:09:49 <planetmaker> and +with 13:10:43 <planetmaker> namely by the author of AdmiralAI :) 13:21:09 *** AmixE90 [~AmixE@13-128-255.ggsn.netcom.no] has quit [Quit: La mour De Morph] 13:26:29 *** CelestarT42p [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d876124.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:30:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13754 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix (r13731): one could not join companies from the command line. 13:35:03 <Ammler> another fast fix :-) 13:38:28 *** Yorick_ [~Y0R1CK@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:40:14 *** Yorick is now known as Guest411 13:40:14 *** Yorick_ is now known as yorick 13:40:25 *** yorick is now known as Yorick 13:43:40 *** Guest411 [~Y0R1CK@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:59:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E31A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:50 <fjb> Hello 14:02:23 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:10:00 *** Doorslammer|OTTD [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-115-128.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 14:17:56 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 14:18:18 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:25:24 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13755 /branches/noai/bin/ai/wrightai/main.nut: [NoAI] -Fix (r13751): wrightai is now working again 14:36:11 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 14:37:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r13756 /branches/noai/src/ (ai/ai_squirrel.cpp fileio.cpp fileio.h): [NoAI] -Fix: when an AI is found in a tar, use a fake link to the first dir. This is to ensure the dir in the tar is used when starting the AI, instead a dir outside the tar if they have the same name. 14:47:02 *** fmauNekAway is now known as fmauNeko 14:55:24 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 14:55:36 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:00:44 *** nkx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 15:00:44 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:50 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 15:10:02 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:30:21 *** nkx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:13 *** Nite [~anonym@chello062178193175.3.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 15:33:45 <Nite> Hi 15:34:23 <Nite> i cant use the "find server" buttopn anymore 15:34:36 <Nite> guess this has something 2 do with the server downtime? 15:35:31 <Nite> anyone there? 15:35:34 <Yorick> I am 15:35:56 <Nite> does the "find server" / "server list" work for u? 15:36:20 <Yorick> what version are you using? 15:36:35 <Yorick> it does work here 15:36:38 <Nite> 061 15:36:47 <Nite> 0and 060 15:36:58 <Yorick> it works here 15:37:14 <Nite> ok than i try a reinstall THX 15:37:53 <Rubidium> probably more a local network issue 15:38:15 <Nite> i had this once - and thenonly the latest build worked 15:38:54 <Nite> thx i yust wanted 2 know if it works for everyone else 15:39:25 <Yorick> he saves himself 2 characters to write! 15:39:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: skidd13 * r13757 /trunk/docs/openttd.6: -Doc: Update the man file 15:48:22 <Nite> ok i cant get it to work ... 15:49:19 <Nite> could it be taht my ISP caches the DNS records for MUCH too long. 15:50:28 *** Johnmit [~John@83-216-128-200.neilmi546.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:50:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r13758 /trunk/src/ (airport.h station_cmd.cpp): -Fix (r13226): always use st->airport_tile, st->xy is different in many cases 15:50:58 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.] 15:51:28 *** Nite [~anonym@chello062178193175.3.15.vie.surfer.at] has left #openttd [] 16:06:49 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7FA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7FA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16:34 *** yawn [~0004tom@92.4.213.181] has joined #openttd 16:16:48 *** yawn [~0004tom@92.4.213.181] has quit [] 16:23:58 *** Marduuhin [~mardo4@84-50-169-77-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has quit [] 16:27:25 *** Marduuhin [~mardo4@84-50-169-77-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 16:36:42 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:49 *** Digitalfox [~Digitalfo@bl7-183-195.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 16:39:40 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:01 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:49:27 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad545c7.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:50:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad91581.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:55 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 16:52:56 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:19 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c897.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:45 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-40-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:27:32 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:34:16 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:26 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:46:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51:22 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:51:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:53 <DJNekkid> yet another newgrf question ... is it possible to define a constant with newgrf? 17:52:41 <Rubidium> constant in what manner? 17:52:57 <Rubidium> just some value that is the same throughout your newgrf? 17:53:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can #define it and then run it through cc first ;) 17:53:18 <DJNekkid> to set a "" (or something) to a certain value, so i can enter instead of vehid in action 3's 17:53:43 <Rubidium> yup, define is the easiest way 17:54:05 <DJNekkid> so if i change the pax-wagon vehID i just change it one place 17:54:05 <Rubidium> take a look at extra/ottd_grf for an example 17:54:10 <Ammler> do you know the Makefile from Aegir? 17:55:25 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:55:30 <DJNekkid> Rubidium: where? 17:55:57 <Rubidium> in svn 17:56:02 <Rubidium> like trunk is in svn 17:56:40 <Yorick> svn://svn.openttd.org/extra/ottd_grf 17:57:11 <DJNekkid> and what do i read that with? 17:57:16 <Yorick> svn 17:57:42 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 17:57:50 <DJNekkid> any nice and easy software to use? 17:57:56 <Yorick> tortoisesvn 17:58:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> hg.openntd.org 17:58:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> s/nn/nt/ 18:04:52 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E31A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:13 *** Sacro1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:09:19 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 18:10:59 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:11 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:18:25 <dih> Eddi|zuHause3, to get back to the last point discussed about banning yorick... 18:18:27 <dih> [20:13] * dih sets modes [#ap+ +b *!*@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] 18:18:27 <dih> [20:13] <dih> @kick Yorick fuck off 18:18:27 <dih> [20:13] * JJ has kicked Yorick from #ap+ (fuck off) 18:19:04 <Yorick> dih: if you want to know, #ap+ was the default channel from the ottd-bot, so I wondered what it was about 18:22:36 <dih> i already had said something about you joining channels that are none of your business 18:23:06 <Yorick> and why is it none of my business? 18:23:08 <dih> next time you join channels you dont know, and see me as op... run 18:23:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> dih: i was mostly talking about the currently active ban on this channel 18:23:25 <dih> because ap+ is none of your business 18:23:38 <dih> nice 18:23:42 <Yorick> dih: it's about rortom enhancing the autopilot? 18:24:00 <dih> peter1138, can you change the ban for yorick to *!*@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl 18:24:02 <dih> :-P 18:24:10 <dih> Yorick, no it's not 18:24:16 <Yorick> ah 18:24:30 <dih> chanserv is your friend as to find out things like that 18:24:46 <dih> now if you will excuse me - i have an ignore list to amend 18:26:04 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] by peter1138 18:26:16 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] by peter1138 18:26:19 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~yorick@*] by peter1138 18:26:59 <Yorick> :'( 18:27:17 <Yorick> oh, he removed it 18:27:22 * Yorick hugs peter1138 18:27:48 <dih> well done peter1138 !! 18:28:20 * Yorick thanks peter1138 and kisses :) 18:28:22 <peter1138> Has anybody written passenger destinations decently yet? 18:28:31 <Yorick> no 18:28:33 *** Sacro1 is now known as Sacro 18:28:37 <peter1138> Shame that :( 18:28:42 <SpComb> indeed :( 18:28:52 <SpComb> but it's a difficult feature 18:29:04 <SpComb> you run into issues on what level of detail you want to go to 18:29:11 <peter1138> Has anyone fixed transfer (without unload) to not immediately load what it just depositted? 18:29:18 <SpComb> when figuring out the destinations for the passengers 18:30:06 <SpComb> but the thread mentioned splitting it up into two patches, and the you could use NoAI or somesuch to implement the passenger behaviour 18:30:25 <SpComb> but yeah, I think passenger destinations might be an important a feature as YAPP 18:30:50 <SpComb> you'd be able to build better passenger networks, and most important of allö have longer trains 18:31:25 <SpComb> because you'd need more capacity to transport an equivalent amount of passengers 18:38:13 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:38:26 <peter1138> Bah, not making money at all :( 18:39:51 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:43:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> the people in the thread are discussing about matrices and stuff, while the very foundations of the patch are not done properly 18:44:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> first the saving of the destinations in the cargo packets must be done, then can be discussed how to determine destinations 18:49:30 <Ammler> peter1138: our "workaround" is a 2. station right after... 18:50:21 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause3, saveload is pretty easy, they've just done it all wrong. 18:50:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes ;) 18:50:35 <peter1138> Ammler? 18:50:49 <Ammler> 1. drop, 2. load 18:51:49 <peter1138> Hey, I've finally made some money... by stopping a train that was waiting on transfers until it was ready to full-load... heh. 18:52:14 <peter1138> I could do with the loan going up by 50,000. 18:54:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> ctrl+lend ;) 18:55:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> or do you mean the max loan? 18:55:54 <peter1138> Yes. 18:56:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> i once modified the source to increase the max loan ;) 18:57:02 <peter1138> Might as well cheat ;) 18:57:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> but that leaves a mark that it was cheated ;) 18:57:54 <Ammler> peter1138: that http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/4/46/SandboxGame37.png , just smaller :-) 18:58:42 <Yexo> Ammler: I like the "This forest was an accident" :) 19:00:05 <glx> Eddi|zuHause3: nothing better than debug build :) 19:00:24 <Ammler> yeah, sometimes, it is fun "just to read the signs" 19:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> my problem was that changing the max loan in the difficulty settings did not affect the running game 19:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> because it is only checked at the start of the game 19:02:12 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause3: did you try "over" the scenario editor? 19:02:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... no 19:02:27 *** Marduuhin [~mardo4@84-50-169-77-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:05:49 <rortom> hi 19:06:06 <rortom> is the savegame format documented somewhere? 19:06:48 <Yorick> I don't think it is 19:09:01 <glx> in the source 19:09:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's a basic RIFF, if that's what you ask 19:10:12 <rortom> a RIFF? 19:11:29 *** fmauNekAway is now known as fmauNeko 19:12:20 * Rubidium wonders how hard it is to look riff up on wikipedia or google 19:12:39 <rortom> friendly as always 19:12:43 <rortom> bye 19:12:44 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F11B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:14:34 *** gregor__ [~gregor@xdsl-87-78-20-147.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:29 <Rubidium> seriously... looking it up in google/wikipedia would've cost him and us less time and would've given him more information 19:16:14 <Yexo> if he's too lazy too look up things himself, we're better of without him 19:16:28 <Rubidium> ah well, if learning someone how to fish is sarcasticly friendly... then screw him 19:18:03 <Yorick> RIFF on google or wikipedia tells you something about music 19:18:23 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIFF 19:18:51 <glx> Yorick: yes it's similar to wav format 19:18:59 <Yorick> In music, a riff is an ostinato figure: a repeated chord progression, pattern, refrain or melodic figure, often played by the rhythm section instruments, that forms the basis or accompaniment of a musical composition (though they are most often found in rock music, Latin, funk and jazz). 19:19:12 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F11B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:14 <rortom> thanks 19:19:18 <rortom> and i looked it up ... 19:19:32 <rortom> but was unable to understand it 19:19:38 <rortom> but thats not more important 19:19:40 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F11B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:21:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r13759 /trunk/src/ (depot_gui.cpp gfx.cpp gfx_type.h): -Fix [FS#2147]: selecting non-full length vehicles in the depot gui would place the "mouse pointer" out of the center of the vehicle making it hard to "aim". 19:22:51 *** gregor__ [~gregor@xdsl-87-78-33-65.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 19:23:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-82-230.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:24 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75EC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75EC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:35:38 <ln> how about adding timestamps to the chatlog thing in multiplayer 19:35:52 <Yorick> do we have a chatlog thing? 19:36:01 <Yorick> we have a console thing... 19:36:13 <Yorick> we have a gamelog thing 19:36:24 <ln> the console thing, i suppose 19:36:49 <ln> whatever the button above tab brings up 19:37:05 <Yorick> that's the console thing 19:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: provide a patch ;) 19:39:59 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: too much trouble 19:40:46 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: (that is, 5% for coding, 95% for convincing people with commit access to even look at the patch) 19:41:30 <Yorick> and if you try to convince then too much, they deem the patch unworthy 19:41:54 <Eddi|zuHause> OR: 5% for coding, 1% for putting it on flyspray, 2% making a forum post to get people interested and 93% watching these other people nag the devs 19:42:07 <Eddi|zuHause> makes together 101% ;) 19:43:01 <ln> hmm, so are there refittable trams? 19:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i assume most of the cargo trams are refittable 19:43:39 <Noldo> those timestampsa it's clientside anyway so you don't need to get into trunk to be usable 19:43:48 <Ammler> ln: autopilot could help until your patch is commited ;-) 19:44:08 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: are there such trams in cstramset? 19:44:27 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: does it have a readme? 19:44:39 <ln> dunno 19:44:39 <Ammler> eGRVTS rocks :-) 19:46:29 <Ammler> http://www.openttdcoop.org/newgrfs/trunk/8_vehicles/trams/cstramset/info.txt <-- maybe, you need SmatZ for translation... 19:48:48 <Eddi|zuHause> # And, this, is my mind, 19:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> # and although you try to infringe you cannot confine 19:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> # And, this, is my brain, 19:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause> # and even if you try and hold me back there's nothing that you can gain 19:49:03 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54418bdb.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:49:10 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54418bdb.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 19:53:09 <planetmaker> Is there an easy way to query sourcewise the 4 adjacent tiles, given an arbitrary, known tile? 19:53:36 <Brianetta> with a little math 19:53:36 <planetmaker> I'm quite sure there is... but... 19:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, there is... 19:53:49 <Yexo> Adding TileIndex(0, 1), TileIndex(1, 0), TileIndex(0, -1) and TileIndex(-1,0)? 19:54:10 <planetmaker> Brianetta: yeah, I could add each direction seperatedly. Ok. No quicker way then? 19:54:11 <Eddi|zuHause> grep for something like TILELOOP 19:54:21 <frosch123> loop with DiagDirection and TileOffsByDiagDir (or similiar) 19:54:26 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: that's used for bigger areas 19:54:42 <Brianetta> planetmaker: Not that *I* know of. 19:54:44 <planetmaker> Ah... DiagDirection... sounds good :) 19:54:46 <Eddi|zuHause> for (DiagDirection d = DIAGDIR_BEGIN; d < DIAGDIR_END; d++) { 19:54:58 <Eddi|zuHause> TileAddByDiagDir(t, d) 19:55:21 <planetmaker> Eddi, frosch123 : thx, that'll put me on the right track, I think :) 19:56:19 <planetmaker> just what I've been looking for - seemed too often used that it wasn't easer than defining it over again :) 20:02:59 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:48 <planetmaker> Hm... another question more for curiosity than need right now: MakeRiver(tile, Random()) <--- what does the Random number add to rivers? 20:11:27 <Yorick> the rapids 20:11:29 <glx> different sprite 20:11:46 *** Yorick [~Y0R1CK@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: That's it for today! Poef!] 20:12:20 <planetmaker> ah... I must use the wrong river set :) They could look more diverse :P 20:15:17 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F578A0.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:20:02 <Wolf01> 'night 20:20:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host107-16-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:23:44 <Ammler> planetmaker: are you working on the livery patch? 20:24:07 <planetmaker> I would need to know what "livery" means :P 20:24:09 <Ammler> !s/the/a/ 20:24:26 <Ammler> maybe misspelled 20:24:38 <Brianetta> livery means paint job 20:24:52 <Yexo> Ammler: you probebly mean lively rivers 20:25:10 <planetmaker> :P 20:25:13 <Ammler> yeah, http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Lively_Rivers 20:25:53 <planetmaker> actually it's not my intention to make them lively... just to _have_ them at all. 20:26:14 <planetmaker> without need to build them in the SE 20:26:25 *** Sacro1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:29:15 <planetmaker> I guess "lively rivers" is way beyond my ability to code currently 20:30:32 <planetmaker> (not to mention the time aspect) 20:32:51 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:10 <planetmaker> or is it general concensus that rivers without this lively aspect are useless? 20:38:09 <Noldo> there is no general concesus about anything 20:38:41 *** Sacro1 is now known as Sacro 20:38:47 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd7af.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:06 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 20:43:07 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has joined #openttd 20:51:36 <Brianetta> Error: NOT_REACHED triggered at line 923 of /home/brian/nightly/src/strings.cpp 20:51:37 <Brianetta> openttd: /home/brian/nightly/src/openttd.cpp:142: void error(const char*, ...): Assertion `0' failed. 20:51:50 <Brianetta> Bit of a bugger, that 20:52:59 <Rubidium> Brianetta: don't keep any of the vehicle windows open that are going to a depot for autore(place|new) 20:53:06 <Rubidium> cause that's broken 20:54:52 *** Sacro1 [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:59:40 *** thingwath [~thingwath@heimdall.palisada.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:30 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:54 <Brianetta> Rubidium: Aha 21:04:13 * Brianetta adds that to the notes 21:10:49 <Rubidium> and I'm waiting for Bjarni to fix it 21:22:14 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13760 /trunk/src/ (autoreplace_gui.cpp build_vehicle_gui.cpp): -Codechange: With multiple NewGRF engine sets, engine IDs may not be allocated in the order expected by GRF authors, so sort by 'list position' instead of engine ID for all vehicle types. 21:23:06 <Rubidium> oh, unexpected progress 21:23:39 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r13761 /trunk/src/ (newgrf.cpp newgrf_engine.cpp newgrf_engine.h): -Codechange: Remove dependency on rail for altering purchase list position (mostly function renaming) 21:24:10 <peter1138> r13760 | peter1138 | 2008-07-20 22:21:51 +0100 (Sun, 20 Jul 2008) | 2 lines 21:24:10 <peter1138> r13591 | peter1138 | 2008-06-20 08:23:00 +0100 (Fri, 20 Jun 2008) | 2 lines 21:24:14 <peter1138> hmm, yeah :p 21:27:43 *** Johnmit [~John@83-216-128-200.neilmi546.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Going, Going...... Go] 21:40:51 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #openttd 21:43:21 <peter1138> Hmm, the AI has removed one of my road bits...? 21:44:03 <peter1138> Ah, no... 21:48:37 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.29.12] has joined #openttd 21:49:46 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-40-191.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:43 *** Sacro1 is now known as Sacro 21:53:11 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember the times when towns could terraform my rails ;) 22:10:32 *** Klanticus_ [~Klanticus@189-68-47-202.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 22:11:37 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@189.35.29.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:47 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:14:05 *** Yexo is now known as Guest470 22:14:05 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 22:14:52 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13762 /branches/noai/src/ai/ (ai.cpp ai_gui.cpp): [NoAI] -Change: some left-overs 22:15:47 *** Guest470 [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:26 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 22:31:57 *** fmauNeko is now known as fmauNekAway 22:37:17 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-65-196-232-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13763 /branches/noai/ (13 files in 3 dirs): 22:39:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: change the internal way of handling 'forced' AIs 22:39:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Change: store in openttd.cfg which AIs will start 22:39:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: store the AIs which are booted in the savegame, so on load the same AIs are (tried) to start 22:39:33 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: allow configuration settings per AI (via info.nut) 22:41:29 *** nicfer [~Administr@168.226.104.210] has joined #openttd 22:42:21 <nicfer> did anyone remember the submarine 'easter egg' in (o)ttd? 22:42:29 <nicfer> I have a variant for toyland 22:42:35 <nicfer> fairies! 22:43:12 <Ammler> submarine destroyed ships, didn't? 22:43:13 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13764 /branches/noai/src/ai/ai.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: wrong return value (Yexo) 22:43:19 <Ammler> in original TT, afaik 22:44:40 <nicfer> that was in a patch made by someone 22:45:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:52:21 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13765 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 22:52:21 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: GetSetting(name) now gets the setting you set via SetSetting() in GetSettings() in info.nut. 22:52:21 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: added setting example in wrightai 22:55:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-82-230.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 22:55:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D78C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:03 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:32 *** bleepy [~bleepy@5ad45699.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:21 *** GoneWacko [GoneWacko@86-60-147-155-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi] has joined #openttd 23:18:11 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051075119.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 23:23:41 <planetmaker> he, I now can create a mangrove swamp like landscape :P 23:23:53 <planetmaker> good night 23:29:48 *** curson [~curzon@p1087-ipbf214funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.] 23:39:37 *** KingJ [~kj@host81-149-184-29.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:22 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13766 /branches/noai/src/misc.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix r13745: forgot one instance of MakeNewgameSettingsLive() 23:49:10 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13767 /branches/noai/src/misc.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix r13766: Obi-Rubidium: hit save before commit 23:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> lmao :p 23:50:20 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: truebrain * r13768 /branches/noai/src/settings.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: put some more safeties in place 23:52:55 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c122-107-227-146.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd