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00:01:10 <TrueBrain> I think some subcomponent updated on my system already .. my firefox refuses to display something :p 00:01:19 <orudge> heh, annoying when that happens 00:01:35 <TrueBrain> Shiretokowhat? 00:03:27 <TrueBrain> http://paste.openttd.org/80263 00:03:29 <TrueBrain> guess what that does 00:03:34 <TrueBrain> (it is a valid (!!) Perl application) 00:03:41 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BB291.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 00:03:53 <orudge> launches the space shuttle? 00:03:59 <TrueBrain> run it, for fun 00:04:26 <Brianetta> TrueBrain: That's genius at a level I can't even begin to comprehend 00:04:35 <orudge> I assume it won't eat anything 00:04:36 <TrueBrain> not my work 00:04:38 <TrueBrain> to be clear ;) 00:04:42 <TrueBrain> orudge: it is 100% harmless 00:05:01 <orudge> heh 00:05:04 <TrueBrain> if you know me a bit, you know where it is from 00:05:20 <orudge> reminds me of the 12 Days of Christmas thing in C 00:05:36 <TrueBrain> but really, who can tell me how that aplication works? 00:05:40 <TrueBrain> just a tip of how it is done .. 00:05:44 <TrueBrain> I have no clue, not one 00:05:48 <orudge> I haven't a clue 00:05:54 <Brianetta> TrueBrain: It's ASCII only 00:06:01 <Brianetta> so won't work on an EBCDIC box 00:06:17 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: EBCwhat? 00:06:33 <Brianetta> The bottles contain the relevant ASCII characters, incremented into punctuation 00:06:46 <TrueBrain> there are no fun C variants 00:06:58 *** welshdragon is now known as welshdra-gone 00:07:01 <Brianetta> There's a loop, which decodes the lines and inserts the counte 00:07:17 <Brianetta> rThe bottle shape of the lines id coincidental 00:07:29 <Zuu> Would be cool to make the 99-botteles of bear program whith the code in shape as beer bottles. :p 00:07:53 <TrueBrain> Zuu: I think they did exactly that :) 00:08:12 <Zuu> But shouldn't there be ascii "bottle" etc. in it? 00:08:23 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: it has to contain a loop (which does it 100 times), as requirement of the program :) 00:08:24 <Brianetta> TrueBrain: I think you missed a space at the start when you pasted 00:08:38 <TrueBrain> clearly: no 00:08:54 <TrueBrain> Brianetta: most likely 00:08:57 <TrueBrain> doesn't matter, it was the idea 00:09:01 <TrueBrain> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net 00:09:04 <TrueBrain> if you want the full source 00:09:23 <Brianetta> Zuu: Take "bottle" and increment all the ASCII values by, say, 80 00:09:45 <Zuu> Brianetta: Sure, likely some such tricks. 00:09:51 <Brianetta> I'm not going to rummage in the Perl there to find out the actual value used 00:09:54 <Brianetta> It's probably 100 00:09:59 <TrueBrain> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-shakespeare-664.html <- my all time favorite :) 00:10:03 <Brianetta> then the loop can re-use the increment 00:10:46 <TrueBrain> a,t="\n%s bottles of beer on the wall","\nTake one down, pass it around" 00:10:46 <TrueBrain> for d in range(99,0,-1):print(a%d*2)[:-12]+t+a%(d-1 or'No') 00:11:01 <TrueBrain> at least with adding enters and stuff, I can decode the above text :p 00:11:03 <TrueBrain> (python btw) 00:12:27 <Brianetta> Now use < for print and {;;}; for a loop 00:12:53 <Brianetta> and use ascii characters for their numeric equivalents (: 00:12:56 <Brianetta> Shape as a bottle 00:12:59 <Brianetta> enjoy chilled 00:16:20 <TrueBrain> lalala 00:16:45 <TrueBrain> I am hungry 00:16:50 <Brianetta> :(){ :|:& } 00:20:09 <Brianetta> ls(){ ls|ls&} 00:20:11 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-3e3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21:30 <rortom> you knew LOLCODE? 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<-- it should be fine indeed, if you are talking about the specs or the asm code 02:27:24 <Belugas> but it's been a long time ago 02:27:28 <Belugas> got to check 02:27:30 <Belugas> why? 02:34:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14251 /extra/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [OTTD GRF] -Fix (r14213): replace the right glyph and use the right colour indices in glyph sprite 02:36:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14252 /extra/website/languages/fr_FR.php: [website] -Revert (r14251): always check where you are when you it enter :) 02:39:19 <glx> +h 02:43:22 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:43:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14253 /trunk/bin/data/ (5 files): -Fix (r14214): replace the right glyph and use the right colour indices in glyph sprite 02:44:50 *** Tekky [~chatzilla@p5493F3D5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 02:45:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F890.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 02:53:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r14254 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Codechange: Code style and breathing room 03:03:08 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180065010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:08:02 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:04 *** elmex_ is now known as elmex 03:19:34 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 03:20:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:37:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C85E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:50:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DBB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:54:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DBB8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10:23 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:10:52 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:14:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80347.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:16:16 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B839D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:16:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 04:21:32 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:22:23 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 04:26:40 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:26:58 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:34:23 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:34:31 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:34:37 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 04:35:02 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 04:35:33 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm137.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 04:51:16 *** reldred|gone [~reldred@d58-105-59-114.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:55:23 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:18:18 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 05:26:49 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:34:42 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:34:53 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 05:50:19 *** roboboy [3aad2910@67.207.141.120] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 05:51:23 *** roboboy [3aad2910@67.207.141.120] has joined #openttd 06:19:00 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8751de.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 06:19:58 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 06:21:31 <Celestar> morning 06:38:14 * Celestar wonders whether one can tell vim to auto-recognize variable types from the tags file 06:46:06 *** draconnier [~svencanni@ip-83-99-87-187.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 06:46:11 <draconnier> Hi 06:46:52 <Celestar> good day 07:06:52 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:13:09 <Celestar> the GUI code sucks at times :P 07:14:41 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:58 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 07:17:40 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 07:18:39 <roboboy> anyone want to join me on the coopdev server 07:21:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:22:25 <Wolf01> hello 07:24:52 <Celestar> morning 07:25:47 <Wolf01> today is spore day! 07:25:56 <Celestar> what day? 07:26:11 <Wolf01> or better, ths evening 07:26:32 <Wolf01> stupid i key, I need to clean the keyboard 07:28:31 <Wolf01> good, another broken piece of plastic come out of the keyboard 07:28:37 <Celestar> buy a new one 07:28:54 <Wolf01> it's the laptop keyboard :P 07:29:47 <roboboy> does it have USB ports then buy a USB keyboard 07:30:44 <Celestar> laptop keyboards are expensive :( 07:31:50 <roboboy> mercurial doesnt seem to want to update the revision when I try to update 07:31:57 <Wolf01> that's the only reason why I didn't changed it yet, but I want to to a little upgrade, maybe I can change the keyboard too 07:32:09 <roboboy> it says something about a lock 07:32:11 <Wolf01> *to do 07:34:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:35:25 * Celestar sighs 07:35:59 *** draconnier [~svencanni@ip-83-99-87-187.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:37:33 <Celestar> WTH? 07:42:58 *** murray_ [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::ea7:beef] has joined #openttd 07:44:59 *** murray [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::ea7:beef] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 07:58:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff75.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 08:22:24 <peter1138> roboboy, hg pull && hg update 08:23:13 <peter1138> Belugas, seems odd to have a Random() in the middle of varaction2 code. 08:24:26 <Celestar> hey peter1138 08:26:12 <peter1138> Morning. 08:26:58 <peter1138> Hmm, there appears to be a quantity of bacon, eggs and sausages. I see a plan forming... 08:26:59 <Celestar> how's the keyboard stand? (= 08:27:10 <frosch123> Random() in GetxxxVariable() will most likely always cause desyncs :) 08:27:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DAA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:27:46 <fjb> Hello 08:28:21 <frosch123> moin 08:28:43 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-3e3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 08:28:45 <fjb> Quak frosch123 08:33:21 <Celestar> MEH 08:33:54 <fjb> MÀh 08:34:43 <Celestar> the GUI code .. 08:34:47 <Celestar> sometimes it's a real mess 08:35:42 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Quit: edgepro: Sanity is a full time job.] 08:35:51 <roboboy> So I pulled 08:36:03 <peter1138> I haven't yet found the perfect keyboard stand. 08:36:11 <roboboy> and I still get waiting for lock on cujrrent working directory 08:36:19 <peter1138> Currently it's stand on my coffee table which is exactly 115cm wide. 08:36:21 *** welshdra-gone [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:36:40 <peter1138> *sat 08:36:49 <peter1138> Stupid keyboard, typing all the wrong words :( 08:37:26 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm nearly done with the GUI 08:37:45 <Celestar> peter1138: but I'm considering rewriting the vehicle detail windows, however I'm not sure cargodest is the right place to do this 08:37:59 <peter1138> Trunk is a good place. 08:40:49 <Celestar> yeah and then I'll have a total merge mess :P 08:41:11 <peter1138> Not when you do it right. 08:42:24 <Celestar> heh..yes because I consider *rewriting* it. 08:42:42 <Celestar> Making the vehicle details window an ABC and deriving the individual windows from it 08:43:19 <Celestar> that would mean new window classes I guess :/ 08:45:06 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:46:08 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 08:46:09 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 08:48:31 <Zuu> Celestar: I tried to find out what ABC stands for when it comes to programming but have only found pages that usese 'ABC' term but not describes it. Would you mind at least tell what it is abrivated from? 08:48:53 <Celestar> ABC == abstract base class 08:49:01 <Zuu> Thanks 08:49:51 <Celestar> A class with at least one pure virtual function. It cannot be instantiated, only be derived from 08:50:22 <Zuu> Yea, know abstract classes, but have never seen the 'ABC' term before. 08:50:30 <Celestar> (= 08:50:48 <Celestar> maybe it's a celestar-specific TLA :P 08:51:54 <Zuu> I don't study computer sinence so I miss out some jargon you learn there... :) 08:52:13 <Celestar> I don't study computer science either. and I never did, and likely never will 08:52:53 <peter1138> http://svn.bucks.net/~petern/extmidi2.diff 08:52:56 <Forked> mooornin! 08:53:07 <peter1138> ^ Un-special-casing extmidi's command argument. 08:53:36 <roboboy> its still saying stuff about the lock 08:54:00 * Celestar goes TRYING to convert the vehicle details window into an ABC 08:55:18 <peter1138> Shouldn't be too hard. 08:55:26 <Celestar> I hope so (= 08:55:47 * Zuu tries to not scream to high while waiting for MSVC8 to link OpenTTD - hell slow compared to gcc/ln. Takes like 30 seconds or more in MSVC8. 08:56:01 <peter1138> Well it does more. 08:56:09 <Celestar> hm. 08:56:20 <Celestar> constructors are base before derived, right? 08:57:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:03:22 *** Pikka|tf2 is now known as Pikka 09:07:45 *** reldred [aegir@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 09:08:03 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:10:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226149121.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:49 <dih> Ammler has an issue with the word 'Patches' used in the game (Patch Settings) and would like to continue his discussion in here... 09:15:02 * frosch123 also has an issue with "ttdp compatible non-stop" 09:15:26 <Celestar> yeah, because what does it do in the first place meanwhile? :P 09:15:54 <Ammler> well, the word "patch" should not apear in any GUI form :-) 09:16:13 * frosch123 votes for "Advanced settings" and "Add non-stop orders by default" 09:16:15 <Ammler> dih: there is no need to discuss it here, devs do already know it :-P 09:16:34 <Celestar> I concur with frosch123 09:16:44 <Celestar> how about ctrl-click on a station adds non-stop orders by default? 09:17:07 <Ammler> Celestar: think about the size 09:17:45 <roboboy> what if a train already with orders is at the station and you want to clone/share the orders it has 09:19:21 <Ammler> it clones like the are, does not change 09:19:45 * fjb supports frosch123. 09:19:54 <Ammler> this setting has also influence how to "convert" older saves 09:20:32 <frosch123> Ammler: in those older saves the setting is stored in the savegame 09:21:01 <Ammler> older :-) 09:21:39 <DaleStan> <Celestar> constructors are base before derived, right? <-- Yes. Also, with multiple bases, left to right. I think virtual bases are constructed at their first location in a L-to-R depth-first search, but I'm not so sure about that. 09:22:05 <Celestar> Ammler: dih: you know "schwÀbisches" Star Wars? 09:22:15 <DaleStan> Virtual base classes always made my brain very uncomfortable. 09:22:18 <dih> Celestar: nope 09:22:49 * peter1138 wonders how to do this GUI... 09:23:27 <Celestar> dih: youtube: search for "Star wars schwÀbisch" 09:26:09 <Celestar> thanks DaleStan 09:26:53 <Celestar> why do a _ALWAYS_ forget the ";" at the end of an interface :S 09:30:56 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:31:32 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 09:32:19 <dih> i wanna watch star wars again... 09:32:51 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-191.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:34:07 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:36:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E7AB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:36:36 <Ammler> Celestar: there is no "no youtube" on topic anymore :-) 09:36:52 <Celestar> Ammler: just watch it :P 09:37:15 <Wolf01> there's no 8=D on topic anymore :D 09:38:08 <Ammler> omg 09:41:23 <Wolf01> that's a smiley with sunglasses and a large nose... - small nose, = large nose... I can't understand why people should always see something different :P 09:42:32 <Celestar> 8) 09:42:49 <Wolf01> that looks like a frog 09:43:21 <frosch123> true, it does not have any ears 09:48:33 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:49:43 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 09:50:59 <frosch123> http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/diffs/AdvancedSettings.diff <- rename "configure patches" to "advanced settings" and remove the old translations from all languages except french 09:52:03 <Noldo> \o/ 09:52:21 <Wolf01> :O 09:52:25 <yorick> why except french? 09:52:34 <frosch123> any other language that wants to stay? 09:53:13 <Ammler> german, dih is fixing it atm :-) 09:53:17 <frosch123> all those I could read looked similiar to "patch" or "lappen" or "flicken" 09:53:42 <frosch123> so I leave german to not cause conflicts :) 09:53:55 <SmatZ> frosch123: interesting, just in last language update I noticed the same change in czech.txt 09:54:30 <SmatZ> +STR_CONFIG_PATCHES :{BLACK}PokroÄilé nastavenà 09:54:35 <SmatZ> = advanced settings 09:54:45 <frosch123> svn revert czech.txt 09:54:48 <SmatZ> is it just a conincidence? 09:55:45 <Wolf01> you should then fix all, rename all "patch" occurrencies to advsettings or anything you like, so also in the console we can refer to it with the new name instead of patch.xxx 09:55:50 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c114-76-62-29.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:56:25 <Ammler> not really needed 09:56:31 <Wolf01> patch.xxx <- is there a pr0n setting in OTTD? 09:56:36 <frosch123> Wolf01: that would definitly be a separate patch 09:57:16 <Celestar> code looks MUCH cleaner if interface is separated from implementation 09:57:42 <dih> Wolf01: it's and easter egg - go find it! 09:57:59 <Wolf01> that would made sacro happy 09:58:27 <Wolf01> maybe a setting to enable nudes like on the long vehicles 10:01:12 <Ammler> shouldn't plane speed factor moved to cheats... 10:01:14 <XeryusTC> get the marsian landscape 10:01:19 <XeryusTC> there's a nude statue in there :P 10:02:10 <Ammler> well, also many 4LV trucks have one 10:02:42 <Ammler> p.. on roads 10:08:37 <Celestar> working on vehicle_gui.h sucks 10:10:17 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7DE47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:48 <dih> Ammler: it's a setting, not a cheat! 10:12:16 <Ammler> what is the difference= 10:12:16 <dih> some people might want to configure their servers to allow better plane profits 10:12:18 <Ammler> ? 10:12:26 <dih> cheats cannot be configured on servers? 10:12:29 <dih> my word 10:12:34 <dih> thinker - turn it on! 10:13:15 <Ammler> :-) 10:13:30 <dih> seriously 10:13:51 <Ammler> well, I have another view for cheats, but nevermind. 10:14:05 <dih> no you dont 10:14:09 <dih> you have YOUR view 10:14:34 <Ammler> :-) that is an other, isn't? 10:15:00 <dih> it's sometimes just not that funny anymore :-) 10:16:04 <Ammler> and why do you smile then :P 10:16:22 <Celestar> peter1138: I'll do that at some other point. it's rather large a modification :P 10:18:02 <dih> Ammler: not wanting to appear too rude... 10:20:13 <dih> anyway ;-) 10:20:16 * dih has to run :-P 10:21:36 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 10:21:42 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:26:21 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccad.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:29:22 *** johnl_ [~astronar@89.127.170.170] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:30:03 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DAA1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:38:58 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D830.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:44:30 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:31 <Celestar> DaleStan: the f() : g() syntax only works for ctors/dtors, right 10:48:52 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:34 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:51:03 <Zuu> I've never seen f() : g() for destructors, only constructors. 10:51:06 <TrueBrain> morning all 10:51:22 <Zuu> Good 'morning' :) 10:51:37 <Celestar> er .. right, Zuu (= 10:51:42 <Zuu> but yea technically it's morning in UK at least. 10:52:17 <TrueBrain> exactly 10:52:20 <TrueBrain> not that I am there, but good enough 10:52:28 <Celestar> Oy TrueBrain :D 10:52:30 *** murray_ is now known as murray 10:52:59 <Celestar> TrueBrain: is there any way I can fire up the compile farm? (= 10:53:02 <TrueBrain> my compiling in screen suspends when I close my NX session .. annoying .. 10:53:19 <TrueBrain> Celestar: already done .. 10:53:25 <Celestar> TrueBrain: awesome ;) 10:53:30 <Celestar> when? 10:53:34 <TrueBrain> last night 10:53:37 <Celestar> colly 10:53:38 <TrueBrain> Yexo requested it 10:53:39 <Celestar> cooly* 10:55:07 <TrueBrain> http://binaries.openttd.org/custom/cargodest/h62ac8281/ 10:56:06 <TrueBrain> today I hope to get the scripts converted to allow a more flexible way of scheduling compiles, then I need to fix OSX somehow .. and then I can give you easy access :) 10:57:34 <Celestar> no hurry 10:57:36 <Celestar> hm 10:57:47 <TrueBrain> I want to get this over with, so I am in a hurry :p 10:57:59 <TrueBrain> OSX target currently is a release-blocker :( 10:58:06 <Celestar> :( 10:58:22 <Celestar> do we have any release in the near future? 10:59:18 <TrueBrain> not that kind of release 11:00:22 <TrueBrain> show-blocker, maybe a better word :) 11:01:03 <blathijs> show-stopper? :-) 11:01:09 <TrueBrain> yes! 11:01:11 <TrueBrain> thank you :) 11:02:55 <yorick> where does cargodest need grep -m for? 11:03:19 <Celestar> ? 11:03:20 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 11:03:27 <TrueBrain> I think 'trunk' needs it to 11:03:31 <yorick> it doesn't 11:03:37 <yorick> or I would have failed to compile trunk 11:04:20 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff75.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04:24 <TrueBrain> not exactly, still it is a trunk thing 11:04:49 <yorick> then why does Cargodest error with the invalid option and trunk doesn't? 11:05:26 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 11:05:35 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-159-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:05:43 <Celestar> yorick: not sure. 11:05:43 <TrueBrain> use grep to find out where it is used, and you will know 11:05:49 <TrueBrain> gnuwin32.sf.net, and download grep 11:05:50 <Celestar> grpe grep ? 11:05:54 <Celestar> grep grep 11:06:03 <TrueBrain> Celestar: hg/git revision detection :) 11:06:19 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D830.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:06:25 <yorick> could have told me that 11:06:29 <TrueBrain> no 11:06:33 <yorick> ok :) 11:06:34 <TrueBrain> you could have just checked yourself 11:06:39 <TrueBrain> lazy people.. :p 11:08:05 <yorick> Celestar: I got a new warning for you about some deprecatedness 11:09:38 *** reldred|gone is now known as reldred 11:09:39 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/d2c6b81e9 11:09:48 <yorick> with gcc 4.x 11:10:10 <TrueBrain> 4.x is to unspecific .. 4.0, 4.1 and 4.3 differ A LOT :p 11:10:25 <Celestar> yeah I know 11:10:28 <yorick> 4.3 11:10:46 <Celestar> yorick: this will be fixed when we found some final revision (= 11:10:50 <yorick> TB: are you too lazy to read my error now? 11:11:05 <yorick> "/lib/gcc/mingw32/4.3.0/" 11:12:27 <yorick> btw, constructing bundle revision detection fails with hg 11:13:34 <TrueBrain> yorick: only if you don't have the right grep :) 11:20:19 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/config_fixes_4.patch <- yorick: apply this, and you solved your problem without updating grep 11:20:59 <Celestar> peter1138: it seems by turning VehicleDetailsWindow into an abc we might even end up with fewer lines of code :P 11:22:58 <yorick> TB: I got a newer grep now 11:23:06 <yorick> but the bundle detection still seems to fail 11:24:08 <TrueBrain> rm src/rev.cpp 11:24:09 <TrueBrain> make 11:25:31 <yorick> still norev000 11:25:47 <peter1138> Celestar, I thought you'd given up on that? 11:25:56 <TrueBrain> yorick: then I wouldn't know, it works here :) 11:26:20 <Celestar> peter1138: well, it's nowhere near finished 11:26:36 <Celestar> peter1138: but it might be finished this evening. 11:26:41 <peter1138> Fair enough. 11:26:48 <peter1138> Does my extmidi driver change seem reasonable? 11:27:05 <Celestar> I have no idea about the extmidi stuff 11:27:21 <Celestar> I've started out with the window stuff in cargodest :o 11:27:25 <Celestar> crap 11:27:28 <peter1138> Hee 11:27:38 * roboboy deletes his cargodest source folder and starts afresh 11:30:00 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:30:58 * Zuu thinks there should be a generic find location window which not only let you search for signs but any location string, such as signs, towns, industries and vehicles. 11:31:24 <Zuu> But I guess I better get search in sign list done first.. 11:32:35 <FauxFaux> Zuu: Patch! 11:32:55 <Zuu> Zuu: Search in sign list is a patch that is not far from getting done. 11:33:16 <Zuu> You can find version 2 with some usability issues on tt-forums. 11:33:40 <FauxFaux> Heh, 86 "open" patches on the bug tracker. :/ 11:33:47 <Zuu> (mainly that sign list steals focus always when it is open) 11:34:28 <peter1138> BICYCLE 11:34:31 <peter1138> BICYCLE, BICYCLE 11:34:33 <Celestar> ? 11:34:34 <peter1138> I WANT TO RIDE MY 11:34:39 <FauxFaux> BICYCLE 11:34:40 <TrueBrain> peter1138: take your pill, please 11:34:43 <roboboy> hehe 11:34:54 <roboboy> TRAIN 11:34:55 <Zuu> I don't want, it rains so much today.. 11:35:09 <roboboy> TRAIN,TRAIN 11:35:13 <peter1138> Why is gtk_main_iteration() returning true? 11:35:19 <FauxFaux> I WANT TO RIDE IT WHERE I LIKE 11:35:40 <peter1138> Hmm. 11:36:35 <Zuu> peter1138: have you looked on the dynamic key focus stealing patch I posted to flyspray last night: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2275 ? 11:37:05 <peter1138> No, I'm currently working out what to do with my joystick events. 11:37:11 <Zuu> Okay 11:37:40 <yorick> every time you open thd clientlist, the first client is automagically selected 11:37:48 <yorick> that bug came with the cpp-gui 11:39:58 *** LA [~hailong@82.131.17.255.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:44:27 <dih> LA! 11:44:37 <LA> dih! 11:44:52 <LA> lo ladies 11:45:02 <LA> and gentlemen.. and dih 11:45:29 <dih> thank you very much ;-) 11:45:33 *** LA is now known as LordAzamath 11:45:51 <dih> what aber LordAftermath? 11:46:04 *** LordAzamath is now known as Lord 11:46:16 <Lord> this is better 11:46:31 <Lord> cos I'm called this almost everywhere :P 11:46:33 <dih> na - not really 11:46:51 <Lord> but someone has registered this nick before too 11:46:58 <Lord> and we got a Lord at tt-forums too 11:47:16 *** Lord is now known as LA 11:47:33 <LA> ok, nuff spamming :P 11:47:37 <dih> LA, talk to #oftc, they will free Lord for you 11:48:04 <dih> /msg nickserv info Lord 11:48:11 <dih> check the register date and last quit ;-) 11:48:33 <LA> hmm 11:48:46 <dih> hehe 11:49:03 <LA> actually, I can live with LA too.. I got that from oftc too :P 11:49:22 <dih> hehe 11:49:27 <dih> LA is cooler than Lord 11:49:32 * LA is searching for nightly's changelogs 11:49:33 <dih> methinks 11:49:46 <Celestar> methinks he should stop reading the forums 11:49:53 * LA found 11:50:26 <dih> Celestarthinks nonsense :-P 11:50:43 <TrueBrain> Celestar: you won't get any smarter if you continue to read them 11:50:44 <TrueBrain> more the opisite 11:50:52 <dih> hehe 11:51:02 *** mode/#openttd [+b Lord!*@*] by peter1138 11:51:05 <peter1138> Because it's a silly nickname. 11:51:07 <Celestar> TrueBrain: some people have a weird .. tone 11:51:19 <TrueBrain> some people are weird :) 11:51:42 <Celestar> /home/vici/openttd-cargodest/src/ship_gui.cpp:48: undefined reference to `vtable for ShipDetailsWindow' 11:51:45 <Celestar> hm ... 11:52:17 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:54:16 <dih> ntl? yuck :P 11:54:25 <Celestar> ntl? 11:54:44 <LilDood> Virgin media... 11:55:07 <Celestar> bbl 11:55:17 <LA> media is not virgin :o Someone raped her 11:55:34 <LilDood> MTV? 11:55:42 <LA> possibly 11:59:51 *** roboboy [3aad2910@67.207.141.120] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:01:00 *** roboboy [3aad2910@67.207.141.120] has joined #openttd 12:05:51 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B859C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:08:17 *** Sir-Bob [~chatzilla@c114-76-62-29.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 12:08:31 <LA> Why do people spam sometimes? 12:08:38 <LA> or create spam-bots 12:08:46 <LA> which spam 12:11:35 <TrueBrain> why do you spam? 12:14:18 <Prof_Frink> LA: Money. 12:14:46 <LA> TrueBrain: I tend not to spam.. usually 12:19:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:16 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 12:27:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54470bf2.wfd82a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:28:07 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 12:33:36 <Jupix> hey, would it be difficult to implement land-only maps in openttd? 12:33:43 <Zuu> What do you prefere 'search in sign list' or 'filter sign list'? My biggest argument for 'filter' is that the f-key is available, but the s-key is heavily used for signals so taking s-key is not a good thing. (even if the f/s-key won't be global) 12:35:21 <roboboy> I replied to your thread 12:35:24 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-159-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 12:35:35 <TrueBrain> Jupix: you need to be a tiny bit more specific I Think, as 'land-only' maps is pretty vague 12:35:46 <TrueBrain> (you mean no vehicles? no snow? no trees? no houses?) 12:35:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-208-179.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:35:57 <Jupix> I mean this: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=7563 12:36:04 <Jupix> no water 12:36:09 <Jupix> or rather, no sea surrounding the land 12:37:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:37:40 <TrueBrain> give it a try ;) 12:37:41 *** LilDood_ [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:37:57 <Jupix> :P 12:38:06 <Jupix> I think I'd be a bit out of my league with that one 12:38:11 <Zuu> roboboy: Okay, I'll check that out 12:42:37 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:43:05 <Celestar> hm .. 12:43:11 <Celestar> 160 fewer lines in vehicle_gui.cpp, peter1138 (= 12:45:52 <Celestar> ... 12:47:48 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:48:09 <Celestar> what's the *point* of having identical strings in the language file? 12:48:30 <TrueBrain> different syntax meanings? 12:49:01 <Celestar> ? 12:49:26 <Celestar> they even have, apart from the hexnumber, the same name. 12:50:38 <TrueBrain> well, who knows, in some language it is translated differently :p 12:50:39 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 12:51:00 <TrueBrain> I can't give you an example in english, but I know sometimes you need 2 equal english strings, which are transltaed differently in other languages 12:51:08 <TrueBrain> not to say it is true for the strings you are looking at :) 12:54:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14255 /trunk/Makefile.src.in: -Fix [configure]: remove the requirement to have a recent enough 'grep' which understands -m. Instead, use 'head -n 1' which is more common available 12:56:51 *** LilDood_ [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Pull the pin and count to what?] 13:00:29 <peter1138> *commonly 13:00:55 <glx> too late 13:06:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:11:51 <Ammler> LA complaining about spam is also spam as this line here is spam ;-) 13:12:02 <LA> HAM 13:12:50 *** LA [~hailong@82.131.17.255.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 13:13:23 <TrueBrain> Ammler: now see what you did :p 13:14:29 <peter1138> You made him leave. Congratulations. 13:14:34 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:13 <Ammler> oh :-( 13:16:46 *** davis- [~asd@p5B2885C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:45 <Celestar> erm peter1138 ? 13:17:57 <Celestar> http://www.fvfischer.de/guicleanup.diff 13:18:25 <Ammler> yet another legal discussion, we really have to few of them. 13:18:27 <Celestar> 1000 lines of diff :( 13:21:16 <peter1138> Uh... 13:21:20 <peter1138> Should be less than that in trunk? 13:21:32 <peter1138> Do it in the right place :p 13:21:48 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-213-249-187-179.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:22:03 <peter1138> Of course, Sacro used to be a woman. 13:22:04 <Celestar> peter1138: not much of a difference. I haven't even touched the cargodest code in there. 13:22:15 <Celestar> er wait. 13:22:15 <Sacro> usedf to? 13:22:16 <peter1138> Whoops... 13:22:17 <Celestar> I have. 13:22:22 <peter1138> You have, indeed. 13:22:42 <Celestar> because I've basically redone the non-train windows. Needed to add the scrollbar (and related functions) plus the resize button 13:29:55 *** indio [~indio@79.98.1.167] has joined #openttd 13:30:57 <indio> ... 13:31:06 *** indio [~indio@79.98.1.167] has quit [] 13:31:34 <yorick> ... 13:31:51 <peter1138> Are you going to leave now, too? 13:32:56 <TrueBrain> so tempting ... 13:35:47 * yorick has left oftc () 13:36:22 <TrueBrain> don't make us happy with a dead fish 13:36:29 <TrueBrain> :) You had thatone comng ;)) 13:39:07 * yorick makes TB happy with a dead fish 13:39:24 <orudge> fish heads, fish heads, roly poly fish heads 13:39:35 <TrueBrain> I think today this channel went insnae 13:39:44 <orudge> "today"? 13:39:55 <orudge> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cn73Wtem0No 13:40:07 <TrueBrain> OH! orudge pasted a youtube link! OH! 13:40:16 <orudge> well 13:40:22 <orudge> it doesn't say "no youtube links" in the topic, as far as I can see 13:40:35 <orudge> :P 13:40:40 <TrueBrain> but clearly you know it once was 13:40:54 <orudge> well 13:40:57 <TrueBrain> which is worse, you requiring constant reminder of what is allowed and not? 13:40:59 <orudge> I was just trying to explain that I am not insane 13:41:09 <TrueBrain> orudge: you can try, you will fail 13:41:10 <orudge> and that there really was a song in the 80s called Fish Heads ;) 13:41:13 <TrueBrain> I have seen the tt-forums meet movie 13:43:18 <orudge> :P 13:46:00 <davis-> fish heads fish heads .. 13:48:16 * Celestar wonders what to do with the gui cleanup now 13:48:23 <Celestar> ok I'll be off for a bit 13:49:53 *** lobster_MB is now known as gks 13:51:01 *** gks is now known as lobster_MB 14:04:38 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-213-249-187-179.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:55 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-213-249-187-179.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:05:08 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 14:06:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:16:01 <peter1138> Celestar, did you rework it against trunk? 14:18:48 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37E2C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:18:59 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37E2C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:21:06 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccad.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:43 <Celestar> peter1138: about to 14:36:02 <Celestar> peter1138: first thing is to decide whether to get rid of the duplicate/quadruple strings. 14:36:17 <peter1138> Which ones? 14:37:05 <Celestar> peter1138: vehicle_gui.cpp:1263 14:37:12 <Celestar> peter1138: all those strings are identical 14:37:21 <Celestar> I mean each block 14:37:47 <Celestar> reworking against trunk is more difficult than the diffing against cargodest :( 14:38:31 <Celestar> peter1138: one disadvantage I have noticed abbout cargodest in the network: the savegames are siginificantly larger 14:39:11 <Celestar> peter1138: mostly because of this: 14:39:13 <Celestar> dbg: [misc] [Pool] (CargoPacket) increasing size of pool to 60416 items (1933312 bytes) 14:42:09 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: are you around? 14:43:57 <TrueBrain> 2 MiB of cargopacket data :s 14:43:59 <TrueBrain> omg .. :p 14:44:03 <Celestar> TrueBrain: well .. 14:44:22 <Celestar> dbg: [misc] [Pool] (Vehicle) increasing size of pool to 5120 items (1658880 bytes) 14:45:03 <TrueBrain> still, cargopackets is bigger ;) 14:45:10 <Celestar> yeah 14:45:18 <Celestar> cargo is clogging up at some of the stations :P 14:45:50 <TrueBrain> so an efficient network means a small savegame ;) 14:45:58 <Celestar> yeah 14:46:02 <Celestar> (= 14:46:14 <Celestar> but we have 1MB downloads for a 512x512 map. 14:50:04 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:30 <Celestar> peter1138: damnit .the current dev test games overwhelmes my CPU :(( 14:55:43 <roboboy> 70% cpu or more for openttd.exe 14:55:51 <roboboy> on the test game 15:00:27 <Celestar> good news is: its not the cargodest system (= 15:01:18 <Wolf01> it's lack of zlib? 15:01:44 <Celestar> nah 15:01:48 <Celestar> it's just a general thing 15:01:52 <Celestar> no single function sticks out 15:02:32 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:59 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 15:06:02 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 15:06:46 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0EEC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:04 *** Reemo [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E2E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:13:49 *** thgergo [~thgergo@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 15:23:42 <Celestar> peter1138: Rubidium: we might want to consider a more clever CargoList::InvalidateCache than we have now 15:23:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 15:31:26 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:41 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7DE47.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:41:15 <yorick> chat backlog still has glitches 15:41:20 <yorick> the one-pixel-off 15:41:33 <yorick> it leaves a trail on the screen with smooth scroll and pause 15:43:11 <Celestar> yes 15:56:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-2-131-220.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:00:02 <Celestar> peter1138: http://www.fvfischer.de/cacheopt.diff <= RFC. improves performance by about 70% 16:04:58 <peter1138> this_cache_safe is for? 16:04:59 <glx> couldn't you use a function to prevent code duplication? 16:05:24 <Celestar> glx: nothing 16:05:29 <Celestar> peter1138: nothing, remains 16:05:36 <Celestar> glx: yes, I'm planning to 16:05:40 <Celestar> it's a concept 16:06:05 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:07:11 <Celestar> I first need a desync test 16:07:20 <Celestar> i.e. I'm testing it against an unpached server 16:08:26 *** roboboy [3aad2910@67.207.141.120] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:09:06 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0EEC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 16:09:34 <Celestar> hm it works against an unpatched server 16:09:45 <Celestar> the second hunk doesn't do much, it occur much less often 16:11:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:52 <Celestar> I'll be back in 50 minutes or so 16:13:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm137.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:19:51 *** welshdra-gone is now known as welshdrgaon 16:19:57 *** welshdrgaon is now known as welshdragon 16:31:19 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccad.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:31:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r14256 /branches/noai/Makefile.bundle.in" target="_blank">Makefile.bundle.in: [NoAI] -Fix (r14236): forgot to move the noai changes in Makefile.bundle to Makefile.bundle.in" target="_blank">Makefile.bundle.in 16:32:37 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:32:37 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:49 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Never put off till tomorrow, what you can do the day after tomorrow] 16:43:29 <Celestar> meh stupid thunderstorm 16:46:01 *** thgergo [~thgergo@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:46:19 * Celestar was soaked 16:46:49 *** Swallow_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:00 *** thgergo [~thgergo@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 16:52:43 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:46 *** Swallow_ is now known as Swallow 16:55:37 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad34872.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:53 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad3486b.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:03:37 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:22 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 17:13:04 <Celestar> :S 17:14:17 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:18:52 *** sulai [~sulai@p5B2B6F50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:18:57 <sulai> hey =) 17:19:05 <KillaloT> hey 17:21:36 <sulai> I'm just having a look at the ottd code 17:21:46 <sulai> I have a problem with track reservation 17:23:06 <sulai> I'm calling TryReserveRailTrack(), the track gets reserved sucessfully, but the signals of the corresponding rail block don't switch red 17:23:59 <peter1138> Should they? 17:24:00 <sulai> Am I using the right function? 17:24:47 <sulai> yes... if a tile in a signal block is reserved, the block's signals should show red...? 17:25:19 <peter1138> Well you'll have to write that bit. Signals are red if there's a train in the block. 17:26:00 <sulai> oh.... okay. I thought this was directly linked to track reservation 17:27:18 <sulai> so track reservation and signal triggering are two independent things... right? 17:28:35 <yorick> yes, except for path based signals, maybe 17:29:43 <sulai> hm... is there a function which triggers all signals of a signal block to red? 17:30:06 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226149121.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176254116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:07 <sulai> like what a train does if it enters a new signal block 17:30:12 <peter1138> No. There's a function that triggers a signal update. 17:30:32 *** welshdragon2 [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:30:49 <sulai> peter1138: What name does this function have? 17:31:23 <peter1138> UpdateSignalsOnSegment or something like that. 17:31:38 <peter1138> That won't mark them red though. 17:32:37 *** Reemo [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0EEC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:32:50 <sulai> this one? UpdateSignalsAroundSegment(SigFlags flags) 17:32:53 <Celestar> how does the debug redirect work 17:33:24 <Celestar> peter1138: when I can join a "vanilla" game with my modified CargoList cache compuations, and stay online, can we assume it to be desync safe? ;) 17:33:47 <sulai> <peter1138> That won't mark them red though. <-- hm.. not good. 17:33:54 <Celestar> sulai: what are you writing? (= 17:34:20 <sulai> you know the function thats called when a train enters a new signal section? maybe this will help me ;) 17:34:43 <sulai> Celestar: something I thought to be a one-line patch ;) 17:34:43 <Celestar> I *thought* it was UpdateSignalsOnSegment? 17:34:57 <Celestar> sulai: welcome to the real world :P 17:35:21 <sulai> I want a vehicle on a level crossing to reserve the track and turn the rail segments signals red 17:35:34 <sulai> to make level crossings safer for vehicles 17:35:45 <glx> it's already done 17:35:58 <glx> reserved level crossing are closed 17:36:22 <peter1138> glx, other way around. 17:36:34 <glx> not realistic ;) 17:37:03 <Celestar> nope it's not :P 17:37:22 *** welshdragon [~vista@host81-157-252-208.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:06 <sulai> hm well its not realistic but locomotion has a similar aproach to make level crossings safe 17:38:32 <glx> TTD != Locomotion :) 17:38:54 <peter1138> More useful would be making adjacent crossing close. 17:39:09 <glx> indeed and diagonal crossing 17:39:19 <Celestar> MEH 17:39:30 <Celestar> CallVehicleTicks takes 32 million cycles on the average :o 17:39:51 <glx> called each tick for each vehicle IIRC 17:40:04 <Celestar> glx: but what does it do? :P 17:40:33 <Celestar> it takes 20 milliseconds per call :( 17:40:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@78-21-228-27.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:06 <sulai> level crossings can only be safe if trains stop for vehicles... otherwise a stoped vehicle on a crossing will be crashed. so making adjacent crossing close wouldnt help. 17:41:58 <Celestar> sulai: RVs should not get unto a crossing unless the part behind the crossing is free imho 17:42:28 <sulai> anyway... I'll try to make a patch and see how it plays ;) 17:42:32 <glx> Celestar: load/unload, motion update 17:43:12 <Celestar> glx: 20 milliseconds for each call of the function, NOT including called functions 17:43:19 <glx> autorenew 17:43:27 <Celestar> all the load/unload happens in called functions 17:43:50 <glx> FOR_ALL_VEHICLES(v) { <-- that can explain it :) 17:44:06 <Celestar> there are 3000 vehicles in game 17:44:07 <sulai> Celestar: yes, I agree 17:44:20 <Celestar> I still don't see 10000 cycles being used to call a handful of functions 17:44:21 <glx> including wagons? 17:45:18 <Celestar> glx: yes. including wagons. 17:45:20 <sulai> Celestar: but then a queue of vehicles won't pass a level crossing... they would wait for 2 tiles distance... 17:45:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:48 <Celestar> sulai: good. that's how one does it IRL too 17:46:08 <Celestar> you don't drive bumper-to-bumper over a level crossing (= 17:46:15 <sulai> anyway, thanx for UpdateSignalsOnSegment()... We'll see what it can do ;) 17:48:17 <Celestar> meh 17:48:22 <Celestar> I don't understand the assembly 17:50:26 <Celestar> who i 17:50:31 <Celestar> who here is good at assembly 17:52:20 <peter1138> DaleStan :) 17:53:04 <Celestar> :) 17:55:55 *** nicfer1 [~Administr@168.226.104.49] has joined #openttd 17:55:58 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:01:27 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:35 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 18:01:47 *** welshdragon2 is now known as welshdragon 18:05:14 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-191.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 18:13:02 *** thvdburgt [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:18 <Celestar> ok false alarm. gprof includes called functions 18:16:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff75.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:20:33 <glx> ha :) 18:21:00 <Brianetta> glx: Fancy playing my scenario? 18:21:18 *** thvdburgt [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:21:21 <glx> don't have time to play 18:21:53 <Celestar> glx: so we just need to do less work per tick, or do that work faster (= 18:22:00 *** thvdburgt [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:59 <nicfer1> a tiny suggestion, what about ctrl-enter as a shortcut for group chat? 18:23:35 <glx> there's already a ctrl-enter shortcut 18:23:39 <peter1138> You mean the way it is? 18:23:44 <yorick> nicfer1: could you tell me what the shortcut is now? 18:24:12 <yorick> something like ctrl-enter, I remember 18:24:30 <glx> there's even a patch setting to determine default destination without ctrl IIRC 18:29:22 <nicfer1> oh I tried on ctrl-enter and that patch setting and it didn't make any effect 18:29:49 <nicfer1> would be good if the switch is on, ctrl-enter will instead allow group chat 18:30:06 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:54 <Celestar> shit 18:31:08 <Celestar> Saturday evening and there's no chocolate or anything in the house 18:32:34 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 18:34:23 <peter1138> Heh 18:36:35 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 18:38:12 *** Reemo is now known as Dr_Jekyll 18:42:55 * peter1138 ponders reusing snd_seq_event. 18:57:19 <sulai> Hm I don't get it to work... 18:58:03 <sulai> UpdateSignalsOnSegment(tile, DIAGDIR_NE, GetTileOwner(tile)) // where tile is the level crossing, the rail going sw-ne 18:58:30 <sulai> should switch the signals red, shouldn't it? 18:58:37 <peter1138> No, it updates the signals. 18:58:42 <sulai> uh... 18:59:04 <sulai> this means what? 18:59:20 <peter1138> The signal update still only checks for the presence of trains. 18:59:37 <sulai> oh, okay 18:59:41 <peter1138> You need to modify that to pretend reserved track is a train. 19:00:01 <sulai> ah, i understand... I'll have a look 19:03:26 <sulai> I think I have to change ExploreSegment() to make it find vehicles too 19:06:26 <Celestar> peter1138: I'm too tired to convert that GUI cleanup to trunk now :P 19:06:55 <peter1138> Fine. 19:07:21 <Celestar> I'll have a go tomorrow. what about those trings? remove the superfluous ones? 19:10:19 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-213-249-187-179.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:44 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.122.117] has joined #openttd 19:21:45 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]] 19:24:46 *** sulai2 [~sulai@p5B2B6F50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:51 <sulai2> re 19:27:48 *** sulai [~sulai@p5B2B6F50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:56 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8751de.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:53:04 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:56:53 <TrueBrain> who knows where you can get a cheap Xbox 1? 19:57:19 <peter1138> I've got one. 19:57:26 <peter1138> It just doesn't work :o 19:58:39 <TrueBrain> we want a media center in our living room here 19:58:44 <TrueBrain> so xbox seems the best pick :p 20:00:38 <Zahl> nah, cant do HD stuff 20:01:10 <TrueBrain> no HD tv anyway 20:02:33 <Prof_Frink> TrueBrain: Or you could spend three weeks working out mythtv 20:03:44 <TrueBrain> and how would that help? 20:08:27 *** thvdburgt [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:12:41 <Zahl> ok, if you don't need HD stuff xbox is really the way to go 20:17:32 <TrueBrain> but where to get one ... for not much money .. 20:17:39 <TrueBrain> wow, those Dell Hybrids look awesome! 20:20:06 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 20:21:34 *** fjb [~frank@p5485F610.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:38 <fjb> Hello 20:21:55 <sulai2> is it possible that VehicleFromPos() doesn't work for vehicles (like busses) on crossings? I'm using a debugger and Vehicle *v = _new_vehicle_position_hash[(x + y) & TOTAL_HASH_MASK]; results in NULL every time. vehicle.cpp:424 20:22:42 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. More! More! More!] 20:23:18 <Rubidium> that functions works for all tile types/vehicles 20:26:31 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:30:50 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:23 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 20:33:01 <sulai2> when VehicleEnter_Road(Vehicle *v, TileIndex tile, int x, int y) is called by the game, is "v" already on "tile"? 20:33:36 <sulai2> or is it about to get on the given tile? 20:33:42 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8751de.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 20:33:50 <Celestar> heh 20:33:53 <Celestar> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=726191#p726191 20:33:56 <Celestar> good one '(= 20:34:43 *** svippy [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:34:43 *** svippery [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:35:17 * Celestar wonders whether to say thanks on the topic or privately 20:38:42 *** sulai2 [~sulai@p5B2B6F50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:47:36 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:03 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 20:51:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B839D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 20:52:52 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B839D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:52:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:53:56 *** Slowpoke [Lobster@dslb-088-073-250-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:55 <Brianetta> Celestar: Whose baby is shared infrastructure? 21:01:11 <Ammler> Vikthor's 21:01:32 <Vikthor> well, only partially 21:01:52 <Ammler> later from Gedemon or somehow 21:02:01 <Celestar> yeah 21:02:14 <Celestar> several people are in it, I think planetmaker is doing something on it as well. Why Brianetta ? 21:02:16 <Brianetta> We just had an idea on our server 21:02:21 <Vikthor> I added payment for track usage, and upgraded to then current trunk, but then planetmaker took on 21:02:44 <Brianetta> Road elements could benefit from SI themes 21:02:46 <Ammler> also a little bit from TrueBrain is in :-) 21:02:53 <Brianetta> so you could have a toll bridge 21:03:05 <TrueBrain> where? 21:03:06 <TrueBrain> what? 21:03:06 <TrueBrain> who? 21:03:07 <Brianetta> or a toll gate on the tile at the end of the bridge 21:03:08 <Ammler> (1. wwottdgd) 21:03:18 <Brianetta> or a toll tunnel 21:03:22 <Brianetta> or toll * 21:03:24 <Ammler> TrueBrain: sharing patch 21:03:28 <Celestar> Brianetta: Idea (dream) is to integrate it into cargodest (= 21:03:29 <TrueBrain> ah :) 21:04:06 <Brianetta> Celestar: Why? Isn't the timetabling patch being broken up into bite-sized chunks to increase chances of trunk integration? 21:05:03 <Celestar> what does timetabling have to do with it? 21:05:12 <Celestar> sorry I lost you somewhere in between :P 21:06:00 <Brianetta> Timetabling is an example 21:06:18 <Brianetta> of a patch, which is being broken down, not integrated up 21:07:52 <Celestar> Brianetta: ah. well, 1) I thought of cargodest->trunk before is->trunk. 2) As this is an own hg repo, the chunks are not needed, because the commits themselves are imported, not the whole diff. (if I understood that right). Kinda like a branch merge 21:08:15 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 21:08:59 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 21:12:39 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:23 *** nicfer1 [~Administr@168.226.104.49] has left #openttd [] 21:25:41 *** lobster_MB is now known as COCKBUSTER 21:27:17 *** COCKBUSTER is now known as lobster_MB 21:29:19 *** LilDood [~IceChat7@cpc2-bolt5-0-0-cust370.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:34:00 *** ijustam [~ija@c-68-51-94-8.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:17 <ijustam> is there a source for archived nightlys? 21:36:19 *** lobster_MB is now known as gks 21:36:52 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:06 *** gks is now known as lobster_MB 21:40:50 <Rubidium> ijustam: depends on what you're looking for 21:40:56 <Celestar> peter1138: glx: better? http://www.fvfischer.de/newcache.diff 21:41:31 <ijustam> nm, got it 21:43:38 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]] 21:44:52 *** jni [~geetee@cs181040004.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:27 *** Elukka [~elukka.el@bb-89-166-41-222.dsl.phnet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:47:27 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:47:51 <Elukka> ugh... is steam the only download service that really works... 21:47:53 <Elukka> (also hi) 21:51:12 *** mikl [~mikl@0304ds2-ba.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:52 * fjb is usually using electricity for downloading. 21:52:30 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:54:06 <nckomodo> Elukka its the only download service that doesnt suck total bollocks 21:54:16 <nckomodo> in that its actually pretty good 21:54:22 <Elukka> yeah 21:54:37 <Elukka> i downloaded trainz classics 3 from the developers own download service 21:54:47 <Elukka> and its probably corrupt or something 21:55:09 <nckomodo> oh no, my favorite garrys mod server is down D: 21:55:29 <Elukka> a digital download wants me to "please insert disc #5" 21:55:43 <nckomodo> ahahahha what 21:55:46 <nckomodo> seriously? 21:56:01 <nckomodo> that sounds really broken 21:56:08 <Sacro> Elukka: i downloaded it from usenet and it crashes on some things :( 21:56:27 <Elukka> i even tried redownloading 21:57:11 <Elukka> but curiously, nobody else seems to have had the problem 21:57:16 <Elukka> meh, have to contact tech support on monday.. 21:59:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fff75.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:55 <Brianetta> !seen lachie 22:20:07 <glx> michi_cc: should we reopen http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2276 ? 22:21:11 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:25:05 <Celestar> glx: did you get the link above? 22:25:36 <glx> Celestar: yes, it's easier to understand this version :) 22:25:53 <Celestar> I'm still unhappy with LoadUnloadVehicle 22:34:40 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:15 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 22:37:11 <michi_cc> glx: it works when I change the value in his sample savegame. maybe he changed the wrong openttd.cfg or something 22:46:21 <glx> ok I reopened and asked for the ingame value 22:48:05 <Celestar> \o michi_cc 22:49:57 *** oja [~0blivious@3E339CE3.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 22:51:51 <michi_cc> glx: okay 22:52:25 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52:29 <glx> should tell us if he correctly fixed the cfg ;) 22:52:39 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 22:56:25 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E7AB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:57:13 <oja> http://vampiee.deviantart.com/art/pheonix-flight-97201718 22:58:30 *** oja was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [spam] 22:58:31 *** oja [~0blivious@3E339CE3.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 22:58:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:59:18 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*0blivious@*.dslaccess.aol.com] by Rubidium 22:59:18 *** oja was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [oja] 23:02:02 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-3e3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:19:58 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-208-179.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:39 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit] 23:25:10 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176254116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 23:37:26 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:38:30 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@h66-244-213-147.pmcnet.ca] has joined #openttd 23:43:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F8EC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:34 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d8751de.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:49:29 *** Slowpoke [Lobster@dslb-088-073-250-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:51:23 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54470bf2.wfd82a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53:00 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54470bf2.wfd82a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:53:40 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54470bf2.wfd82a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 23:53:59 *** Rexxie is now known as Rexxars