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00:14:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E3F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:08 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r14350 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r13927): do not draw PBS reservation for NW and NE depots, it is drawn through depot walls 00:29:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-146.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:30:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r14351 /trunk/src/yapf/follow_track.hpp: -Codechange: call CFollowTrackT::GetSingleTramBit() only if we know it is a tram, so compiler doesn't generate code for trains and ships 00:32:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75E67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7729B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:35:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-70-101.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:29:00 <peter1138> Sacro, subsidies are one-way. 01:29:18 <Sacro> peter1138: ah right 01:38:17 *** lilman424 [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:13 <peter1138> Haha 01:48:30 <peter1138> 13388 plays since 11th March 2005... 01:53:47 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577BAD7D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 02:02:47 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-184-196.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:08:30 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-149-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:08:56 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 02:27:34 <ecke> my pings from czech rep to usa 02:27:34 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=107ms TTL=111 02:27:34 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:34 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:34 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=106ms TTL=111 02:27:35 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=107ms TTL=111 02:27:35 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:37 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=108ms TTL=111 02:27:37 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=107ms TTL=111 02:27:39 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:39 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=106ms TTL=111 02:27:41 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:41 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:43 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=106ms TTL=111 02:27:43 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:45 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:45 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=108ms TTL=111 02:27:47 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:47 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=107ms TTL=111 02:27:49 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=109ms TTL=111 02:27:49 <ecke> VyprÅ¡el ÄasovÃœ limit şádosti. 02:27:51 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=106ms TTL=111 02:27:51 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=108ms TTL=111 02:27:53 <ecke> OdpovÄÄ od 159.153.234.50: bajty=32 Äas=107ms TTL=111 02:28:00 <ecke> some wale cut cables? 02:39:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:51:07 *** ecke was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [dunno, but a whale did not liked that] 02:51:07 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 02:52:36 <Belugas> ecke, next time you do something as stupid as that, it will be a ban 02:53:42 <Sacro> that kind of stupidity is reserved for me 02:53:45 <Sacro> and Eddi|zuHause 02:54:00 <Sacro> and sometimes Wolf01 02:54:21 <Belugas> mmh? 02:54:24 <Belugas> how so? 02:54:35 <Rubidium> and... that looks like quite a stable connection for Hungaria 02:58:51 <Belugas> you sound a bit surprised ;) 03:00:47 <Rubidium> surprised? nah, such stable connections from hungary happen sometimes 03:11:09 <Belugas> hehe 03:13:39 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 03:14:28 <orudge> [22:55:44] <Ammler> max of attachments is 3MB <-- no, tis 4MB 03:14:29 <orudge> anyway, sleep 03:15:01 <Belugas> mmh... 03:15:08 <Belugas> not enough memory on card 03:15:15 <Belugas> recording stopped 03:15:19 <Belugas> not my night :( 03:15:28 * Belugas goes to sleep 03:16:02 *** lilman424 [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has joined #openttd 03:16:19 <lilman424> does prospecting guarantee a new industry? 03:17:37 <Pikka> I don't think so... 03:18:04 <lilman424> do you know the approximate percentage chance? 03:18:59 <Pikka> afraid not 03:22:10 *** lilman424 is now known as Metalcore 03:26:34 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:28:47 *** reldred|gone is now known as reldred 03:37:50 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 03:52:48 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 04:12:28 *** penfold [~p@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust608.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:31:07 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0D454.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 04:54:02 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 05:05:00 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:03 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 05:42:46 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 05:50:09 *** Zorni [zorn@e177230135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:08:01 <peter1138> 120GB! 06:09:53 <Forked> ¯\(º_o)/¯ 06:20:22 <Pikka> zomg 06:20:37 <Pikka> woo.. 100 years on peter's server, and it's only 1975 :) 06:23:11 <ccfreak2k> That's a long time for a server to be around. 06:24:04 <Pikka> I refer, of course, to OTTD! :O 06:26:45 <peter1138> Hee 07:24:14 <planetmaker> morning ottd :) 07:26:04 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: great job. Thx a lot! :) 07:28:50 *** archjb [arcane@gurumeditation.68k.no] has joined #openttd 07:34:12 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:37:04 <peter1138> work :o 07:37:12 <Pikka> how terribly terribly! 07:37:17 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:45:37 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 07:53:28 *** Jezral [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has joined #openttd 07:56:19 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-107.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:00:17 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:28 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 08:00:30 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5C3AC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:06:32 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 08:29:24 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30:02 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:35:44 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:42 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:40:49 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:54 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 08:43:41 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:46:30 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 08:47:12 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 08:51:37 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-46-6.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 09:18:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:54 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 09:25:59 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34:36 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:34:49 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 09:34:58 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:40:19 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 09:42:05 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:48:56 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:49:04 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80DAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8100C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:50:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:51:46 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:09 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:00 <TrueBrain> lalala: HAPPY! 10:13:04 <TrueBrain> lalalaaaaa: JOY! 10:13:21 <FauxFaux> Lallala! 10:13:26 <Gekz> l. 10:13:35 <FauxFaux> a. 10:13:37 <Gekz> TrueBrain: why are you happy 10:13:51 <TrueBrain> O S X ! ! :p 10:14:07 <Gekz> explain 10:14:14 <TrueBrain> read the web 10:14:28 <Gekz> I can't 10:14:33 <Gekz> it's far too vast to read it all 10:14:54 <TrueBrain> so I suggested limiting yourself 10:14:55 <Gekz> and by the time I had finished, it will have been rewritten 10:15:46 <Gekz> TrueBrain: you just made the internet shit bricks 10:15:47 <Gekz> good show. 10:17:18 <TrueBrain> My ignore list is getting so big lately .. 10:17:56 <Gekz> I don't belong on it. 10:18:17 <Gekz> I make valid points, and agree with your awesome compilation triumph 10:18:34 <TrueBrain> fair enough :p 10:19:03 <Gekz> you have inspired me to install MacOS X on this non-Apple hardware this weekend 10:19:33 <SpComb> how illegal 10:19:44 <Gekz> not if I own the disk. 10:19:48 <SpComb> Steve Jobs will personally attend to the fact that you go to hell 10:20:00 <Gekz> Australian law doesnt allow software to be binded to a specific hardware 10:20:12 <Gekz> it doesnt even recognise software as anything 10:20:14 <TrueBrain> Gekz: I don't have a dvdrom (or any other medium that can read those round objects), so I can't :( 10:20:18 <Gekz> and a pirate as someone who makes others walk a plank 10:20:18 <SpComb> and Apple still sells software in AU? :P 10:20:33 <Gekz> TrueBrain: you can turn DVD isos into USB bootable disks 10:20:37 <Gekz> with a simple script 10:20:38 <Gekz> :P 10:20:48 <Gekz> SpComb: they just openned many more shops 10:20:50 <TrueBrain> Gekz: but I don't think 4.9 GB fits on a 1 GB stick 10:20:52 <TrueBrain> I can always try 10:20:58 <TrueBrain> but ... I doubt it can be done 10:21:09 <Gekz> SpComb: its really hard to put MacOS X on other systems 10:21:16 <Gekz> TrueBrain: dont be a fool -_-! 10:21:19 <Gekz> lol 10:21:33 <Gekz> the clear alternative is to purchase an absurdly priced 16Gb usb stick 10:21:34 <TrueBrain> Gekz: it is REALLY simple to put Mac OS X on an other system .. 10:21:40 <TrueBrain> OSX86 to the rescue!!!!! 10:21:46 <Gekz> it's not that simple 10:21:50 <Gekz> the drivers are in lacking. 10:22:00 <Gekz> and your processor has to be friendly 10:22:00 <TrueBrain> you just need a realtek or AMD network card 10:22:07 <Gekz> I have realtek 10:22:07 <Gekz> lol 10:22:09 <Gekz> who doesnt. 10:22:21 <SpComb> intel 10:22:21 <TrueBrain> your CPU .. well .. everything that has dual core is fine 10:22:32 <Gekz> Pentium 4 HT 10:22:33 <TrueBrain> non dual cores can be a problem 10:22:33 <SpComb> Apple sells hardware with AMD? 10:22:34 <Gekz> with SSE3 10:22:39 <TrueBrain> you need at least SS2 10:22:42 <TrueBrain> SSE3 if possible 10:22:45 <TrueBrain> and PPF1 10:22:49 <TrueBrain> SpComb: no 10:22:52 <Gekz> wtf is PPF 10:22:57 <TrueBrain> OSX86 has a nice patch for it 10:23:05 <Gekz> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr 10:23:24 <TrueBrain> same as for the ATA drivers 10:23:56 <Gekz> but still 10:24:01 <Gekz> I don't like MacOS X that much 10:24:05 <TrueBrain> Gekz: I mistyped :p I meant to say: and get the PPF1 iso 10:24:10 <Gekz> it wants me to everything "the MAC way" 10:24:14 <Gekz> I want to do it the fastest way 10:24:17 <Gekz> not the Mac way 10:24:18 <Gekz> >_> 10:24:26 <Gekz> I like efficiency 10:24:31 * SpComb uses ion3 10:24:43 <Gekz> I dont find being mouseless efficient 10:24:48 * Gekz hates emacs 10:24:59 * SpComb uses vim 10:25:04 <Gekz> but most of the crap I use is console 10:25:09 * SpComb uses uxterm 10:25:09 <Gekz> except Firefox 10:25:13 <Gekz> and Pidgin 10:25:16 <Gekz> I'm in xfce4-terminal 10:25:22 <Gekz> uxterm is ugly. 10:25:32 * SpComb uses firefox3, thunderbird, irssi/bitlbee 10:25:35 *** dih is now known as dihedral 10:25:52 <SpComb> not as ugly as gnome-terminal or konsole, though 10:25:55 <Gekz> I use geany for my text editing 10:26:14 <Gekz> I want my OS to be semi-merged with the internet I've decided 10:28:14 <TrueBrain> Download Google 10:28:29 <TrueBrain> I simply use KDevelop, NX, Konversation .. 10:28:31 <TrueBrain> I like my GUIs :) 10:28:49 <Gekz> KDevelop sucks to be honest 10:28:51 <Gekz> I'm a minimalist 10:28:59 <Gekz> yet I want everything to be done quickly and prettily 10:29:02 <TrueBrain> in your opinion it sucks, that is possible 10:29:04 <Gekz> I have to start programming my own stuff 10:29:08 <TrueBrain> but it doesn't mean the application itself sucks :) 10:29:15 <TrueBrain> it utilizes my time much more 10:29:34 <TrueBrain> (I can't remember names, and not plan to, so using any CLI application means I need to remember .... I want to clikc! CLICK!!) 10:29:47 <Gekz> i'm getting out a pen and paper 10:29:54 <Gekz> its more efficient than anythign I have right now 10:29:55 <Gekz> -_- 10:30:00 <TrueBrain> my writing sucks 10:30:11 <TrueBrain> last time I tried it, the professor returned it with the question what the fuck I was trying to write 10:30:16 <TrueBrain> a bit annoying ;) 10:30:19 <Gekz> lol 10:30:21 * peter1138 ponders foodage. 10:30:25 <Gekz> which language? 10:30:36 <TrueBrain> what does the language matter for my writing? 10:30:36 <TrueBrain> lol 10:30:40 <Gekz> erm 10:30:44 <Gekz> Arabic vs English? 10:30:47 <Gekz> matters a lot. 10:30:56 <TrueBrain> what ever Latin language, okay? :p 10:31:03 <Gekz> French 10:31:16 <TrueBrain> it really doesn't matter which one, my handwriting sucks 10:31:20 <Gekz> lol 10:31:26 *** dihedral is now known as dihe 10:31:32 *** dihe is now known as dih 10:31:37 <Gekz> C'est langue français! 10:31:37 <TrueBrain> Dih: keep on trying :p 10:31:41 <Gekz> Partir, partir! 10:31:43 <TrueBrain> Gekz: je ne parle pas Francais 10:31:54 <Gekz> You lie. 10:31:56 <Gekz> lol 10:32:44 <Gekz> Czech? 10:33:00 <TrueBrain> caan we put that down under Latin language? 10:33:01 <TrueBrain> :p 10:33:11 <Gekz> did I guess right? 10:33:12 <Gekz> lol 10:33:15 <dih> TrueBrain: i just wrote a little tcl script that has different output per date and nick 10:33:20 <TrueBrain> what were you trying to guess? 10:33:24 <dih> hence the nick change 10:33:27 <Gekz> the language you were writing in 10:33:33 <Gekz> when you were told your handwriting was bad 10:33:48 <Gekz> and I know that Czech is not a latin language 10:33:49 <TrueBrain> Gekz: I really wonder from which planet you are from .. 10:33:52 <Gekz> slavic language. 10:34:05 <Gekz> I am from Satin. 10:34:07 <TrueBrain> it is not the language, it is the alphabet you nitwit 10:34:12 <Gekz> the best fabric ever. 10:34:19 <Gekz> the language matters too 10:34:26 <Gekz> when r is a vowel, everything gets ugly 10:34:30 <Gekz> :P 10:34:50 <TrueBrain> I rethink that ignore idea of mine .. :p :p 10:34:57 <TrueBrain> Dih: ah :) 10:35:55 <Gekz> TrueBrain: well just answer me this, what languages do you speak? 10:36:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067125.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:36:26 *** penfold [~p@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust608.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:36:30 <TrueBrain> Many! :) 10:36:41 <TrueBrain> well, not that other people speaking that language can always understand me 10:36:41 <Gekz> listlistlist 10:36:43 <Gekz> lol 10:36:51 <TrueBrain> but I would like to think I speak those languages as well 10:36:57 <Gekz> danish/swedish/norwegian? 10:36:57 <Gekz> lol 10:37:08 <TrueBrain> once was in Israel, and I went like: gabbelgabbelgabbel 10:37:10 <TrueBrain> they arrested me :( 10:37:14 <Gekz> haha 10:37:14 <TrueBrain> was so unfair! 10:37:18 <Gekz> why 10:37:22 <TrueBrain> I Thought that was their language, and I was asking for a cup of tea! 10:37:30 <TrueBrain> I didn't know it was insulting :( 10:37:31 <Gekz> I dont speak Hebrew, nor Yiddish 10:37:45 <TrueBrain> neither do I my friend, neither do I :) 10:37:49 <Gekz> haha 10:37:57 <TrueBrain> never been in Israel, to be perfectly clear on the joke 10:38:02 <Gekz> I speak English, French, bad German and a bit of Chinese Mandarin 10:38:05 <TrueBrain> (as of course people don't understand, and think I am serious) 10:38:39 <TrueBrain> that is thinking like I have a muffin which can talk 10:38:41 <TrueBrain> really annoying 10:38:54 <TrueBrain> it can walk btw, by now 10:39:13 <Gekz> lol. 10:39:26 <Gekz> I think you are mildly insane, just like me 10:39:30 <Gekz> and this is why you want to ignore me 10:39:38 <Gekz> because the belief that you have met your match is too much to grasp 10:39:40 <Gekz> :P 10:42:49 <TrueBrain> btw, if you are really interested in the languages I speak, you should just check the wiki page, and you will have a very good idea about that 10:42:59 <Gekz> O.O 10:47:53 <Gekz> English and Dutch 10:47:55 <Gekz> how broad. 10:48:06 <TrueBrain> and all the other languages you learn as a dutch person 10:48:10 <TrueBrain> French, German, .. 10:48:21 <Gekz> haha 10:48:27 <Gekz> learn doesnt mean you become fluent 10:48:42 <TrueBrain> never will, not even in englis 10:48:47 <TrueBrain> no intension to that what so ever 10:48:47 <Gekz> lol 10:49:11 <TrueBrain> as long as they can understand me 10:49:13 <TrueBrain> find by m 10:49:14 <TrueBrain> e 10:50:19 <Gekz> lol 10:51:01 <TrueBrain> your vocabulary is also so big .. 10:51:07 <TrueBrain> 'lol', 'haha', ':P' 10:51:23 <Gekz> I speak English fluently. It may be as broad as I want. 10:51:27 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:35 <Gekz> you're the one on trial with every word :P 10:52:50 <TrueBrain> you avoid it by using REALLY short words a lot ;) 10:52:51 <TrueBrain> also a way of course 10:53:13 <TrueBrain> (:p) 10:53:20 <Gekz> English doesn't really have that many long words 10:53:25 <Gekz> like most crazy ass germanic languages 10:53:34 <TrueBrain> shit 10:53:35 <TrueBrain> penis 10:53:37 <TrueBrain> inded :p 10:54:37 <Gekz> >_> 10:54:44 <Gekz> penis is in french and german 10:54:49 <Gekz> shit is universal now 10:54:49 <Gekz> lol 10:55:07 <TrueBrain> penis is kind of english 10:55:08 <TrueBrain> but okay 10:55:30 <Gekz> der Penis 10:55:33 <Gekz> le Penis 10:55:54 <TrueBrain> the Penis 10:55:55 <TrueBrain> de Penis 10:55:59 <Gekz> 1676, perhaps from Fr. pénis or directly from L. penis "penis," earlier "tail" (cf. Eng. tail in both senses, the sexual one slang), from PIE *pes-/*pesos- "penis" (cf. Skt. pasas-, Gk. peos, posthe "penis," probably also O.E. fÊsl "progeny, offspring," O.N. fösull, Ger. Fasel "young of animals, brood"). The proper plural is penes. The adj. is penial. In psychological writing, penis envy is attested from 1924. 10:56:00 <TrueBrain> 4 languages :p (last is Dutch) 10:56:13 <Gekz> Dutch is amusing 10:56:17 <Gekz> substituting th with d 10:56:20 <Gekz> da Nederland 10:56:38 <TrueBrain> 'da', lol 10:56:42 <TrueBrain> youth slang 10:56:53 <TrueBrain> like those wanne be rappers 10:56:56 <TrueBrain> they say: 'da' 10:56:57 <Gekz> what's the official? 10:57:00 <TrueBrain> 'de' 10:57:02 <Doorslammer> Ha ha haa, Freudian! 10:57:05 <Gekz> ah 10:57:07 <TrueBrain> or in this case: 'het' 10:57:16 <TrueBrain> (Neutral) 10:57:26 <Gekz> didnt Dutch kill genders 10:57:42 <TrueBrain> only male/female 10:57:52 <Gekz> explain 10:57:53 <Gekz> lol 10:57:58 <Gekz> so now there's only neuter and ? 10:58:05 <TrueBrain> N and M/F 10:58:09 <TrueBrain> 'het' and 'de' 10:58:13 <TrueBrain> much easier, I can tell you 10:58:20 <Gekz> I k,now 10:58:26 <Gekz> German still has all three genders 10:58:28 <Gekz> makes me upset 10:58:29 <Gekz> lolo 10:58:34 <Gekz> French, with two genders, so easy 10:58:45 <TrueBrain> well, French has '3' too .. 'les' 10:58:51 <Gekz> that's plural 10:58:54 <TrueBrain> still :) 10:58:57 <Gekz> doesnt count 10:59:00 <TrueBrain> that is why I used '3' 10:59:01 <TrueBrain> :) 10:59:01 <Gekz> german has die as a plural 10:59:05 <Gekz> which is saddening 10:59:07 <TrueBrain> Dutch in plural is always 'de' 10:59:09 <Gekz> confusing 10:59:14 <Gekz> their case system makes it worse 10:59:23 <TrueBrain> try learning old Greek :) 10:59:26 <Gekz> NO 10:59:33 <Gekz> I'm doing Latin 10:59:34 <Gekz> lol 10:59:39 <TrueBrain> Latin is okay 10:59:41 <TrueBrain> managable 10:59:46 <TrueBrain> old-Greek on the other hand .. omg .. 10:59:53 <Gekz> it's broken 10:59:56 <Gekz> right to left also 11:00:03 <Gekz> and then that right to left to right thing happened 11:00:05 <TrueBrain> right to lefT?! 11:00:10 <Gekz> that's ancient greek 11:00:15 <Gekz> it was right-to-left originally 11:00:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-70-101.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 11:01:09 <TrueBrain> Gekz: that is early Greek, not a language you normally learn :p 11:01:38 <Gekz> lol 11:01:42 <TrueBrain> and it in fact was right-to-left, left-to-right, right-to-left, etc etc 11:01:42 <Gekz> I might 11:01:48 <Gekz> TrueBrain: that's what I said 11:01:50 <Gekz> except 11:01:50 <TrueBrain> mirroring the letters when going right-to-left 11:01:53 <Gekz> it started purely right to left 11:01:54 <TrueBrain> really annoying :p 11:01:57 <Gekz> then did the swapping 11:02:03 <Gekz> then left-to-right with inversed alphabet 11:02:18 <TrueBrain> but since the 5th centry BC, it was left to right 11:02:24 <Gekz> yes. 11:02:50 <TrueBrain> anyway, my knowledge of Greek is close to zero nowedays 11:03:00 <TrueBrain> I know like 5 words, and I hav a basic idea of the language constructs 11:03:03 <Gekz> I know _of_ Greek 11:03:03 <TrueBrain> scary language :p 11:03:14 <TrueBrain> 'of Greek' = 'of the Greek language' 11:03:18 <TrueBrain> 'muggesifter' 11:03:21 <TrueBrain> (look thatone up :p) 11:03:26 <Gekz> I refuse. 11:03:40 <TrueBrain> I wouldn't expect you otherwise 11:03:46 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 11:04:05 <Gekz> lol 11:06:53 <TrueBrain> *** Would I find you smiling in the picture 11:07:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F549.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:27 <TrueBrain> (guess the song :p) 11:10:41 <Ammler> TrueBrain: what is the reason for creating the mac bundle "universal"? I mean you don't make it with Linux or Windows. 11:11:32 <TrueBrain> Ammler: I don't understnad the question, sory? 11:11:47 <Ammler> never mind, was just wondering... 11:12:16 <TrueBrain> no, please rephrase 11:12:18 <TrueBrain> I like to answer :) 11:12:23 <Ammler> :-) 11:12:24 <TrueBrain> but .. well .. I don't get the question :( 11:12:35 <Brianetta> Ammler: Apple have a mechanism to select the correct binary from within an application. 11:12:40 <Brianetta> Windows and Linux do not. 11:12:55 <Ammler> I assume, you could also make single bundles for every architecture? 11:13:17 <TrueBrain> ah, like that: Ammler, it is common on the Mac to do so, I think Apple assumes their users are too stupid to pick the right binary for their system 11:13:28 <TrueBrain> it uses JAVA to bootstrap that process of selecting the correct binary 11:13:40 <TrueBrain> systems like linux and windows don't always come with java, so the 'trick' is impossible there 11:14:00 <TrueBrain> for linux it might be possible to do it in bash I guess 11:14:05 <Ammler> thanks TrueBrain and Brianetta :-) 11:14:07 <TrueBrain> but users are just smart enough to understand what they have :) 11:16:01 <Ammler> That assumption should also slowly go away, not every Linux user is also a smart user :-) 11:16:55 <TrueBrain> very true :) 11:17:05 <TrueBrain> but I think you can manage to differ between 32bit and 64bit 11:17:21 <Ammler> didn't me myslef :P 11:17:30 <TrueBrain> and to make one universal build for linux, which works on all distros .. well .. would be a big binary ;) 11:17:47 <TrueBrain> the mean reason Apple is doing it, is because of PPC / Intel 11:17:52 <TrueBrain> and I can understand it for that reason 11:17:59 <TrueBrain> you know you run 10.5, or 10.4 11:18:03 <TrueBrain> but do you know if you run Intel or PPC? 11:18:06 <TrueBrain> PPwhat? 11:18:07 <TrueBrain> :) 11:18:24 <Ammler> indeed. 11:20:37 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:24:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm169.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:27:06 <TrueBrain> time to follow some classes 11:27:08 <TrueBrain> have a good one all 11:28:18 <ccfreak2k> TrueBrain, remember the days of FAT binaries on old Macs? 11:35:30 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:25 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:46:26 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@user-54470bf2.wfd82a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:55:17 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.152.68.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:54 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:48 *** Tim [83dc24d6@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:22:02 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:25:23 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 12:26:57 *** bloopletech [~blooplete@115.131.203.144] has joined #openttd 12:28:11 <bloopletech> I believe I may have found a bug in OpenTTD, and I'd like to know if there is anything I can do to try and fix it, or at least confirm that it is a bug. 12:29:22 <bloopletech> I've tested this in both 0.6.2 and r14356 (the latest nightly), both on MAC OS X 10.5. I'll get a URL to my savegame now 12:31:12 <blathijs> bloopletech: Please describe the problem in a report on bugs.openttd.org 12:31:36 <blathijs> bloopletech: If you can reproduce the problems on other systems (or ask other people to reproduce) that would help 12:32:00 <bloopletech> I was just hoping to see if anyone else got the same error before I reported it. 12:32:26 <bloopletech> If anyone wants to try it, the URL is http://bloople.net/Standard Transport, 20th Dec 1989.sav 12:32:32 <Rubidium> then tell what you think is the bug than telling that you might possibly have found something that might be a bug 12:32:45 <ln-> bloopletech: that's not a valid URL. 12:33:40 <peter1138> So what's the possible bug? 12:33:43 <bloopletech> The error is, I have a train track laid over a road. The road was built by the town originally, and the rail track was laid by me. I want to delete the track to place an airport, however I get the error "Can't clear this area... ...owned by someone" 12:34:14 <bloopletech> ln-: URL's can contains spaces AFAIK, I can give you a percent-encoded version if you want 12:34:44 <bloopletech> This savefile was originally created in TTD on Windows with TTDPatch on it. 12:34:47 <dih> anybody know a nice tool do disassemble? 12:35:06 <bloopletech> dih: For running programs or static disassembling? 12:35:06 <dih> i have an image which aparently is assembler code and would like to go from there to source code 12:35:44 <peter1138> Ah, you're out of luck if it's from TTDPatch then. 12:35:47 <dih> (at least the output of 'file' is 'Assembler source') 12:36:11 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:36:14 <bloopletech> The rail track I'm trying to move is just west of "Little Flunninghall", in a biggish area of cleared space 12:36:42 <peter1138> dih, assembler source is source... 12:37:13 <dih> i have a .img 12:37:32 <dih> the company itself distributes it as a firmware update file.... 12:38:02 <peter1138> Quite likely that 'file' is guessing incorrectly. 12:38:37 <bloopletech> dih: I believe it *may* be possible to decompile the program somewhat further, but you would need to know the language the program was originally written in. And I don't believe you'll get back to the original source at all. 12:39:36 <peter1138> Dih asked for a disassembler though, not a decompiler. 12:39:38 <ln-> bloopletech: see http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1738.html and search for "unsafe". 12:40:50 <bloopletech> ln-: here's the encoded URL then: http://bloople.net/Standard%20Transport%2C%2020th%20Dec%201989.sav 12:41:10 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:23 <dih> peter1138: dih! 12:41:35 <Xerres> anyone here know roboboy? 12:41:47 <dih> DorpsGek does 12:41:51 <dih> @seen roboboy 12:41:51 <DorpsGek> dih: roboboy was last seen in #openttd 1 day, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <roboboy> gnight 12:41:58 <Xerres> hes from au rite? 12:42:14 <bloopletech> Xerres: I'm from AU if it helps :) 12:42:30 <dih> Xerres: yep, he is 12:42:38 <dih> you can /whowas roboboy 12:42:40 <Xerres> nah roboboy use to hang out in a channel i use to hang out in 12:42:48 <Xerres> but he use to go by lerfy 12:42:57 <Xerres> years ago 12:42:58 <bloopletech> Does what I reported possibly sound like a bug? If so, then I'll submit a bug repot 12:42:59 <dih> and now you are stalking him? 12:43:05 <Xerres> of course 12:43:13 <dih> perfect 12:43:17 <Xerres> i was just bored popping in my old irc channels and #infowar was empty 12:43:22 <dih> that is just what people want - being stalked on irc 12:43:31 <Xerres> =) 12:44:47 <peter1138> Oh wait... you're *that* Xerres 12:44:51 <peter1138> Wow 12:44:55 <peter1138> He said a lot about you 12:45:33 <Xerres> ya i didnt use this nick then either so nice try =P 12:45:38 <peter1138> Damn 12:45:42 <peter1138> :D 12:45:44 <Xerres> heheh 12:45:48 <Xerres> so what is this all about 12:45:53 <Xerres> transport tycoon. 12:45:56 <Xerres> never played it 12:46:46 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 12:46:52 <bloopletech> Xerres: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_tycoon 12:47:09 <Xerres> ya i just read it 12:47:13 <Xerres> ty tho 12:47:21 <bloopletech> yw 12:47:36 <Xerres> i dont play many games anymore 12:47:37 <Xerres> i wish i did 12:47:56 <Xerres> although i'll prolly play diablo 3 when they realease that 12:48:12 *** reldred|gone is now known as reldred 12:49:18 *** svip [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:49:31 *** svip [~svip@0x50a5b150.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:54:10 <bloopletech> I reported the bug if anyone is interested: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2311 12:54:15 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:54:26 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 12:55:29 <ccfreak2k> Xerres, it's like RollerCoaster Tycoon, except without the rollercoasters. 12:57:39 <dih> yeah - replace rollercoasters with transport, then you have it! 12:58:50 <bloopletech> The really wierd thing is I can't remove the tile even with Magic Bulldozer turned on. 13:02:29 <ccfreak2k> Flip the switch to "more magic". 13:04:26 <bloopletech> ccfreak2k: Where 13:04:33 <bloopletech> sorry, whare's that switch? 13:04:53 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:05:58 <ccfreak2k> http://catb.org/esr/jargon/html/magic-story.html 13:07:07 <bloopletech> oh, hahaha. Read that story before. 13:07:52 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@85.27.135.237] has quit [Quit: http://tinodidriksen.com/] 13:12:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:12:21 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 13:14:49 *** Phantasm [ghost@hack.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:14:50 *** Phantasm [ghost@hack.fi] has joined #openttd 13:15:32 <lobster_MB> !seen TrueBrain 13:15:39 <lobster_MB> oh wai 13:15:42 <lobster_MB> @seen TrueBrain 13:15:42 <DorpsGek> lobster_MB: TrueBrain was last seen in #openttd 1 hour, 48 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <TrueBrain> have a good one all 13:16:09 <lobster_MB> hrrrr 13:16:20 <planetmaker> bloopletech: interesting tile in your savegame :P 13:16:49 <bloopletech> planetmaker: the undeletable one? 13:16:59 <planetmaker> Did you edit the game with a scenario editor at some time? Yes, that tile 13:17:08 <bloopletech> Nup, never 13:17:27 <Rubidium> it maybe has some random ttdp bits set 13:17:41 <bloopletech> The savgame did come from TTDPatch. I can't even kill it with Magic Bulldozer so it seems like it's definitely a bug. 13:18:03 <planetmaker> obviously. It's an owner which doesn't exist elsewhere and which is not an existing company or a near-by town or industry 13:18:04 <bloopletech> (Or bug coming from TTDP, I don't mena to blame penTTD unnecisarily) 13:18:27 <bloopletech> sorry, that was a horrible sentence I just typed. 13:19:03 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:19:07 <bloopletech> Is there any way I could fix this in this particular case? Are the savefiles at all editable in a hex editor? 13:19:12 <planetmaker> how's the owner called in your version, bloopletech ? 13:19:31 <bloopletech> You mean in the error message? 13:19:46 <planetmaker> bloopletech: you could save it, rename it to *.scn and edit it in the scenario editor. Yes, the error message. Whom does the tile belong to? 13:19:58 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 13:20:01 <bloopletech> I quote "someone" 13:20:16 <planetmaker> he, ok, that's even translated correctly then :) 13:20:25 <bloopletech> That's what I get when I do ? to. The rail owner is me, the road owner is "someone" 13:20:34 <planetmaker> yep 13:21:48 <planetmaker> same here. I can delete the rail, I can delete the surrounding tiles. 13:22:22 <Gekz> bloopletech: did you change grfs during this game 13:22:45 *** reldred|gone is now known as reldred 13:22:53 <bloopletech> Gekz: Maybe. I'm not sure. 13:23:01 <Gekz> either way it's irrelevant. 13:23:02 <Gekz> lol 13:23:43 <Rubidium> owner is player 0xc 13:24:48 <dih> if if it's not a vaild player, the macig buldozer should succeed 13:24:52 <dih> rather than just 'return' 13:25:01 <planetmaker> dih: it doesn't succeed though. 13:25:16 <dih> hence the word 'should' 13:25:16 <planetmaker> or do I need to do something else than activate that cheat? 13:25:25 <dih> patch! 13:25:43 <Rubidium> the owner shouldn't be invalid in the first place 13:25:48 <planetmaker> :) 13:26:00 <ccfreak2k> Can you set a break on the magic bulldozer function and watch it? 13:26:15 <planetmaker> bloopletech: do you have the original TTD / TTDP savegame? 13:26:32 <bloopletech> I believe so, I'll dig it up for you 13:26:48 <Rubidium> and magic bulldozer only works on town owned roads 13:26:54 <planetmaker> aye. 13:26:55 <Rubidium> as you can remove roads owned by nobody 13:27:47 <bloopletech> planetmaker: I'm uploading the orig save to the bug report now 13:27:53 <planetmaker> k 13:29:38 *** Tim [83dc24d6@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:29:39 <bloopletech> planetmaker: It's up at http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2311 13:32:03 <planetmaker> hm... how do I load it at all? 13:32:18 <bloopletech> Do you have TTDPatch? 13:32:55 <Rubidium> planetmaker: place it in the save map, click on the line with the non-normal coloured savegame name 13:33:07 <Rubidium> (the latter in the load game menu ofcourse) 13:33:22 <planetmaker> I don't have patch. Thx. Rubidium, will try :) 13:33:50 <planetmaker> I didn't see it. The green and khaki colour were too much alike :) 13:35:06 <planetmaker> Seems like something already present in the original game file then. 13:35:06 <Rubidium> the original game is fine; the savegame conversion messes it up 13:35:08 <bloopletech> Hm. When I try to remove same tile in TTDPatch, I get local authority forbids this. 13:35:14 <planetmaker> he :) 13:35:54 <Rubidium> hmm, or 0.5 gives the wrong owner? 13:36:04 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:36:06 * Rubidium rebuilds 0.5 with debugging info 13:36:21 <planetmaker> OpenTTD 0.5?? :P 13:36:31 <bloopletech> btw, I got the same error in 0.6. and latest nightly 13:36:36 <bloopletech> *0.6.2 13:36:57 <planetmaker> you wrote that, yes :). I tested with a somewhat recent nightly 13:37:12 <bloopletech> planetmaker: Just making sure you knew :) 13:37:40 <planetmaker> :) Rubidium is the crack. I'm just pretending knowledge :P 13:37:41 <Rubidium> planetmaker: yeah, to find out whether the rewrite of how road owners and such are stored might be the cause of the issue 13:38:16 <planetmaker> ah :) So loading these old saves was reworked since, I assume... 13:38:49 <bloopletech> This might be a sore point, but I've only been playing OpenTTD for a couple days and I've noticed the pathfinding is (subjectively) worse than in TTDPatch. Is this just me? 13:39:21 <SmatZ> it is just you 13:39:25 <planetmaker> uhm... I assume :). But might depend upon which path finder you use. Do you use yapf for trains? 13:39:30 <bloopletech> Yep 13:40:05 <planetmaker> I think it can even be proven mathematically that the patch finder is quite alright :) 13:40:07 <bloopletech> I'm getting more lost train notifications than I did with TTDPatch I think. 13:40:12 <bloopletech> ok then 13:40:35 <peter1138> Probably because it's notifying you straight away instead of after being lost for a long time. 13:40:36 <planetmaker> bloopletech: that might also have the cause in when or why that message is issued. 13:40:39 <Rubidium> lost train with YAPF means that there is no path to the destination without reversing in stations/depot 13:41:07 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8100C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 13:41:10 <planetmaker> :) ^^ most probable cause. 13:41:28 <bloopletech> I did notice that it went for an incorrect path when the incorrect one did not require reversing, and the correct path did require a revers. 13:41:48 <planetmaker> a path with reversing is not found 13:41:49 <SmatZ> bloopletech: you are using many twoway signals. Try yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol = false in your openttd.cfg 13:41:50 <Rubidium> in ttd(p) it just drives of and randomly takes paths and when it doesn't arrive where it needs to be in quite a lot of days it tells you it is lost 13:42:20 <bloopletech> SmatZ: Ok, I will 13:42:44 <SmatZ> bloopletech: though that won't affect running game... to change setting in the game, type "patch yapf.rail_firstred_twoway_eol false" in the console (activated by ~) 13:43:12 <planetmaker> (the key left of 1) 13:43:22 <planetmaker> SmatZ: it's ^ for me :) 13:43:28 <SmatZ> ok :) 13:43:33 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:44:10 <bloopletech> I also wanted to say how hugely impressed I am by the OpenTTD developers for creating such a great game. I have immediately abandoned TTDPatch for OpenTTD. 13:47:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:47:13 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:47:13 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has joined #openttd 13:47:45 <bloopletech> Stupid question: How do I electrify existing track? 13:48:02 <bloopletech> ignore that 13:48:11 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:34 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 13:50:41 <ccfreak2k> The upgrade tool. 13:50:49 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:51:23 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:55:20 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:55:54 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:57:02 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:59:39 <bloopletech> Anyway, I gotta get some sleep, but thanks for looking at my bug! 13:59:58 <bloopletech> night 14:00:01 *** bloopletech [~blooplete@115.131.203.144] has quit [Quit: bloopletech] 14:00:07 * Belugas enjoys Chocky. From <guess who> 14:00:21 <Belugas> mmmh... Guess Who was a band... not that guess who ^_^ 14:02:07 <Xerres> i cant believe what i'm reading 14:02:15 <Xerres> has anyone ever read whats written in python 14:02:25 <Xerres> theres so many huge projects done in it. 14:03:09 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 14:03:17 * Belugas is not interested in python,sorry. too much to deal already on the stack ^_^ 14:03:36 <ccfreak2k> The stack. 14:03:37 <ccfreak2k> I get it. 14:03:51 <Xerres> its just crazy 14:04:01 <Xerres> i just read this article 14:04:27 <Xerres> its amazing what they would start with that type of coding. i didnt think anyone would do that even huge sites like youtube. 14:06:39 <ccfreak2k> Learn how Second Life's servers are put together sometime. 14:06:52 <ccfreak2k> They "glue" together everything with Python IIRC. 14:07:23 <Xerres> i didnt say it was respectable 14:07:58 <Xerres> but you cant respect the level of popularity being able to be lazy and still make money isnt... totally repugnant 14:08:06 <Xerres> can rather. 14:08:28 <Xerres> i'm kinda half in the bag atm sorry about the typing/grammar 14:08:37 <TrueBrain> lobster_MB: and reason you tried to query me? 14:08:39 <dih> at least you are forced to code nicely 14:12:37 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:12:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 14:14:14 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:34 *** reldred|gone is now known as reldred 14:16:18 <lobster_MB> TrueBrain: needed the 10.5 nightly link, but i found it on the forums 14:16:30 <lobster_MB> i hadn't installed it on my macbook, you see 14:16:31 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:45 <glx> lobster_MB: just bookmark binaries.openttd.org 14:17:06 <lobster_MB> aye 14:17:40 <TrueBrain> I was about to say that ;) It is under the download section now ) 14:18:52 <lobster_MB> quite 14:18:57 <lobster_MB> well, thanks :) 14:19:53 * planetmaker gets the impression that glx knows how to type with 10 fingers as opposed to TrueBrain ;) 14:20:08 <glx> hmm? 14:20:24 <planetmaker> you're constantly faster than TrueBrain in answering the questions :) 14:20:24 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: better impression would be that I am doing other things :p 14:20:47 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: is an interpretation, too. But not as funny ;) 14:21:05 <TrueBrain> fair enough :) 14:24:46 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:28 *** reldred is now known as reldred|gone 14:38:29 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 14:39:08 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater33.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:49:59 <peter1138> So does the 10.3+ build work on all versions of OS X, even with the compile-time changes? 14:51:56 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:51:58 <TrueBrain> compile-time changes? 14:52:18 <TrueBrain> but yes, it should work on 10.3, 10.4, 10.5 PPC, and 10.4, 10.5 Intel 14:52:21 <TrueBrain> (mind thereis no 10.3 Intel) 14:53:15 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8100C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:53:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:54:13 <peter1138> osx_target_version in config.lib 14:55:37 *** Kommer [kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:55:40 *** Kommer [kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 14:56:58 <TrueBrain> peter1138: bjarni-fism, which nobody understands why 14:57:17 <TrueBrain> it adds support to compile for 10.5 only .. 14:57:20 <TrueBrain> who would want that :p 14:57:30 <TrueBrain> but 10.4u SDK works just fine under 10.3 14:59:14 <peter1138> True... nobody really knows what Bjarni's code does ;) 14:59:50 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:01:39 <glx> even Bjarni ;) 15:01:46 <TrueBrain> peter1138: you would laugh if I told you some of the answers I got from him while asking him indepth questions ;) But not worth repeating that in public ;) 15:03:03 <peter1138> Well it never struck me that he put much effort into finding a solution for the problem ;) 15:03:13 *** European [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:03:37 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 15:03:53 *** Faceslapper [Doorslamme@144.138.223.157] has joined #openttd 15:05:18 * Rubidium shields his face 15:09:04 <Eddi|zuHause> <TrueBrain> last time I tried it, the professor returned it with the question what the fuck I was trying to write <- i once turned in an assignment in printed form, and when it was returned, the comment said "use hand writing next time" 15:09:28 <TrueBrain> hehe 15:09:46 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:47 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-107.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:48 *** Faceslapper is now known as Doorslammer 15:10:09 * Rubidium would get a handwritten note from the doctor that writing by hand causes RSI for me ;) 15:10:24 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:10:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:11:11 *** European_swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:11:13 *** European_swallow is now known as Swallow 15:11:31 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [] 15:11:34 <Eddi|zuHause> <Gekz> I dont speak Hebrew, nor Yiddish <- yiddish is easily understandable if you speak german 15:12:24 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:13:26 *** reldred|gone [aegir@creep.bur.st] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:49 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:14:50 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has joined #openttd 15:14:54 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 15:17:29 *** European [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:41 <Ammler> orudge: would it be possible to make a simple sample.cat replacement with the project you started? 15:23:57 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:25:25 <yorick> http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unnamed8thfeb1950fn9.png <-- should the colours be removed from the legend, or be added to the list? 15:30:37 <dih> colourise the list 15:31:11 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 15:32:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14359 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix [FS#2311]: the ownership of roadtiles was not properly set for very old savegames (including TTD's) making it impossible to remove some pieces of road. 15:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> put coloured squares in front of the names, i'd say 15:34:35 <Eddi|zuHause> while there, you might also consider rearranging the data in the list in columns 15:35:26 <yorick> ? 15:39:16 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:06 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe20de00-185.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:41:10 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-fe20de00-185.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:42:37 <Eddi|zuHause> | <icon> | <town, industry> | <production1, transported1> | <production2, transported2> | [...] 15:42:56 <yorick> hm, it is currently done using the string system 15:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and that makes it difficult to compare the industries 15:44:29 <yorick> and how to determine column size? 15:45:12 <Eddi|zuHause> how should i know ;) 15:45:31 <Eddi|zuHause> it might be too big of a task 15:47:31 <yorick> http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unnamed16thmar1950xx8.png :) 15:47:58 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:04 <dih> nice one yorick :-) 15:48:14 *** sunkan [sunkan@sunkan.bsnet.se] has quit [Server closed connection] 15:48:21 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:48:26 <dih> that is a very nice patch to that list ;-) 15:49:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd suggest an alternative: filter for produced/accepted cargo 15:50:13 <yorick> that will maybe go another time, but might need a filter-system to the SortableGUIList 15:51:21 <yorick> hm, patch is 30kb! 15:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that's bigger than the last one ;) 15:54:19 *** reldred|gone [aegir@creep.bur.st] has joined #openttd 15:54:34 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B80FB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:48 <yorick> happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy *finished the first version* happy happy joy joy happy happy 15:56:01 *** teggigi [~asd@ti0056a340-dhcp0311.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 15:58:39 <SmatZ> :-P 16:03:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:10:18 <TrueBrain> yorick: it is only funny if I do it 16:10:20 <TrueBrain> but now: FOOOD! 16:12:46 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:13:21 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-42-180-23.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:01 <yorick> max_station spread shouldn't affect airports that are not connected to anything else 16:17:20 <yorick> station_spread of 10 disables you to build intercontinental 16:17:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so? 16:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause> station spread makes actually break those airports 16:24:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fffd8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:25:30 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@144.138.223.157] has quit [] 16:30:25 *** welshdragon [~vista@host86-145-214-136.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:59 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0ED6A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:32 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:50:32 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:35 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 17:00:52 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 17:01:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-70-101.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:03:38 *** welshdragon [~vista@host86-145-214-136.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:04:01 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:04:07 *** Zorn [zorn@e177233230.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:12:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:12:53 <Wolf01> hello 17:14:00 <yorick> hello 17:14:24 <murray> hello 17:15:12 <Prof_Frink> hello 17:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd have said "hello", too, but i didn't want to destroy the sequence of 6 letter nicks and 5 letter words ;) 17:16:29 <Belugas> Buongiorno Wolf01 17:16:48 <teggigi> hei 17:16:54 <Belugas> let's shake it all over 17:19:37 *** penfold [~p@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust608.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:20:28 *** penfold [~p@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust608.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:14 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:30:20 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ad5.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:30:20 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:30:30 <Wolf01> bah, I want a 24h live code for xbox 17:32:12 <Bjarni> isn't that a bit short? 17:32:26 <Bjarni> if it lives for 24 hours, then you know you will lose it tomorrow 17:32:47 <Wolf01> I need it to download the new burnout update 17:33:26 <ln-> Wolf01, do you live in the north or the south? 17:33:39 <Wolf01> north 17:33:41 <Bjarni> North... I think 17:34:08 <Bjarni> North-East to be more precise ;) 17:35:02 <ln-> which province or whatever county or something? 17:35:20 <Wolf01> veneto, venice 17:35:38 <ln-> ok 17:35:42 <ln-> haven't been there 17:35:48 <Bjarni> WHAT? 17:35:51 <Bjarni> are you sure? 17:35:58 <Bjarni> you, who have been EVERYWHERE 17:36:09 <Bjarni> I don't believe you 17:36:43 <Wolf01> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=it&geocode=&q=san+michele+al+tagliamento&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11&iwloc=addr here to be more precise :D 17:38:12 * Wolf01 tomorrow will look outside the window and finds a lot of people outside his house, with tents, beer, electric railroads... 17:38:29 <Bjarni> and cameras 17:38:38 <ln-> and danish flags 17:39:04 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: xbox 360? 17:39:08 <Wolf01> yes 17:39:10 <ln-> anyway, Bologna is probably the closest point to which i've been to. 17:39:15 <TrueBrain> I might be able to help you with that .. 17:39:27 <TrueBrain> when cleaning my room I found this 48 hours xbox live gold blabla 17:39:40 <TrueBrain> I myself hav bought a year :p 17:39:53 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067125.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:39:58 *** elmex [~elmex@e180067125.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:40:39 <Wolf01> I have a 1 month card (the gta4 one) but since I don't play multiplayer I found useless to use it for one single download 17:40:57 <TrueBrain> then any is useless :p 17:41:01 <TrueBrain> why do you want to upgrade? 17:42:01 <Wolf01> because there are motorbikes, day/night cycle, new challenges... 17:42:20 <TrueBrain> motorbikes? 17:42:22 <TrueBrain> cool :) 17:42:24 <TrueBrain> free update? 17:42:29 <Wolf01> yes 17:42:37 <TrueBrain> I should look at that :) 17:43:24 <Bjarni> which game are you talking about? 17:43:32 <Wolf01> http://www.criteriongames.com/comingsoon/davis.php 17:45:56 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@62.113.133.253] has joined #openttd 17:48:20 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:49:56 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: you do understand I only gave it to you because you are always so nice to us :) 17:50:06 <DJNekkid> hmmmmmmmmmmmm... 17:52:07 <DJNekkid> is it possible to add a range to var2 type B4 ? 17:52:07 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:52:35 <DJNekkid> with initial type 85 and not 81 ? 17:53:13 <DJNekkid> i.e. ... if speed is from A to B, then use Cid1, else use Cid2 ? 17:53:34 <DJNekkid> with 81 it's only "if speed is x, then Cid1, else Cid2" 17:53:35 <DJNekkid> ? 17:54:27 <Prof_Frink> welshdragon: You could just /ignore it. 17:56:08 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B772D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:20 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c830.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:03:18 <welshdragon> Prof_Frink, it wasn't just him 18:05:39 *** nick [~nickds@cpc2-nthc5-0-0-cust388.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:05:45 <nick> yorick 18:05:47 <nick> are you here :) 18:05:57 <yorick> no, I'm just pretending to be 18:06:02 <nick> ah cool 18:08:56 <orudge> [16:20:42] <Ammler> orudge: would it be possible to make a simple sample.cat replacement with the project you started? <-- yup 18:08:59 <orudge> that's the intention of the project 18:09:03 <orudge> indeed, I already released a test binary 18:09:20 <Ammler> orudge: I meant only a sample.cat 18:09:26 <Ammler> without the patch 18:09:28 <orudge> well 18:09:31 <orudge> you need some minor patches 18:09:37 <orudge> in theory, you could have a sample.cat without many patches 18:09:44 <orudge> but it'd be 8KHz or something 18:09:46 <orudge> which sounds awful 18:09:56 <orudge> a simpler patch, which I was going to do the other night, would add support for 44KHz samples 18:09:59 <orudge> and 16-bit, etc 18:10:01 <orudge> without the whole new mixer thing 18:10:33 <Ammler> when is "the other night" ? 18:10:50 <Bjarni> like within the last 48 hours 18:10:56 <Bjarni> at least if you know English ;) 18:11:11 <Ammler> :P 18:11:21 <nick> i know my english ;) 18:11:34 <Ammler> orudge: you replacment looks like the 32bpp for graphics 18:11:41 <orudge> well 18:11:44 <orudge> not quite 18:12:00 <Ammler> I am looking for the file which would replace the sample.cat like the OpenGFX 18:12:04 <orudge> "the other night" was two nights ago 18:12:04 <orudge> yes 18:12:07 <orudge> well, my project would do that 18:12:17 <orudge> but minor patches would be required to increase the quality 18:12:23 <orudge> as there really is no point in converting the lovely new sounds to 8KHz 18:12:30 <orudge> it just makes them sound mushy 18:12:36 <Ammler> dedicated servers i.e. don't care about quality :-) 18:12:54 <orudge> well, a minor patch would be needed then to stop it complaining about sample.cat being invalid ;) 18:12:55 <Bjarni> dedicated servers should be able to completely ignore sounds 18:13:06 <orudge> (ie, the md5sum) 18:13:08 <Bjarni> graphics too 18:13:18 <Ammler> orudge: the problem there is newsound support in GRFs 18:13:23 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7EBF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:28 <orudge> how is that a problem, may I ask? 18:13:38 <Ammler> you can already start the game without a sample.cat 18:14:00 <Bjarni> I don't think we should make a new sample.cat. Wouldn't it be better to call the file something else? 18:14:02 <SmatZ> but some GRFs fail to load 18:14:05 <Ammler> but you can't use newgrfs which use that feature like UKRS 18:14:06 <nick> what is a good small download compiler to use to compile openttd on vista ? 18:14:07 <orudge> Bjarni: well, sample.cat is the simplest thing 18:14:11 <orudge> although 18:14:15 <orudge> I think I had it called something else 18:14:21 <orudge> opensfx.cat or something 18:14:27 <orudge> if it found that, it used it 18:14:28 <Bjarni> that's my point 18:14:29 <orudge> if not, it used sample.cat 18:14:35 <orudge> that was in the patch and binary I uploaded 18:14:42 <orudge> I'd just need to pull that stuff out and apply it to the current mixer 18:14:44 <Bjarni> the format can be the same, but the file should be called something different to avoid confusion 18:14:44 <Rubidium> nick: good and small are multual exclusive when talking about compilers on windows 18:14:44 <orudge> instead of the new mixer 18:14:49 <orudge> yup 18:14:51 <orudge> that's the plan, Bjarni :) 18:14:56 <Bjarni> also if they have different names then the md3 check can stay 18:15:10 <Sacro> md3? 18:15:16 <SmatZ> md3! 18:15:21 * Sacro implements a dc10 check 18:15:51 <Sacro> Bjarni: 0.6.0, an RV can't autoreplace cos of money limit 18:15:53 <Bjarni> Sacro: you go figure out what md3 is and don't come back before you have done it ;) 18:15:57 <Sacro> it just goes insanely in and out of a depot 18:16:19 <nick> Rubidium: what would you recomend then ? 18:16:39 <peter1138> Maybe Bjarni's heard of md5. 18:17:22 <Rubidium> nick: MSVC Express I reckon (but then: a) I don't use Vista, b) I don't compile on Windows, c) I don't use Windows) 18:17:50 <nick> ok many thanks anyways 18:18:07 <SmatZ> nick: you may try BuildOTTD (I have never needed it, but people have good experience with it) 18:18:23 <nick> i was told it does not work on vista 18:18:25 <SmatZ> it installs mingw and such (I think) 18:18:26 <Bjarni> <nick> Rubidium: what would you recomend then ? <-- I would recommend using an OS with a decent implementation of GCC, make and so on :p 18:18:27 <SmatZ> aha 18:18:36 <Rubidium> SmatZ: buildottd doesn't work for Vista 18:18:36 <nick> and i dont want nightly i want 0.6.2 18:18:43 <nick> vista is terrible 18:18:50 <SmatZ> upgrade to XP, for free 18:18:56 <nick> i do like xp 18:19:04 <nick> i think it will go back on my next format 18:19:05 <yorick> Bjarni: that is called mingw 18:19:07 <Rubidium> Bjarni: so that rules OSX out 18:19:07 <peter1138> Why bother compiling if you only want 0.6.2 ? 18:19:15 <nick> i want a patched 0.6.2 18:19:27 <Bjarni> xp looks like a dead smiley (x for eyes and sticking out the tongue) 18:19:35 <SmatZ> :-D 18:19:36 <nick> nice observation 18:19:39 <SmatZ> X-P 18:20:14 <Bjarni> <Rubidium> Bjarni: so that rules OSX out <-- I can use GCC and make just fine 18:20:16 <Bjarni> bbl 18:21:47 <peter1138> "decent implementation of" 18:22:41 <yorick> Rubidium: yes it does 18:22:51 <yorick> if it wasn't broken in general 18:23:20 <yorick> it just needs a mingw+msys update 18:24:10 *** nick [~nickds@cpc2-nthc5-0-0-cust388.nrth.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 18:27:37 <rortom> uhm 18:27:57 <rortom> the new website layout destroyed my auto update :( 18:28:36 <blathijs> auto update? 18:28:36 <frosch123> rortom: finger.openttd.org 18:29:02 <TrueBrain> it would have bene a poor new website, if it didn't .. 18:29:08 <rortom> i used http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/rev 18:29:18 <TrueBrain> rortom: listen to what frosch123 tells you 18:29:27 <rortom> yeah, got it thanks 18:29:50 <rortom> now i have to parse those :\ 18:31:50 <DJNekkid> peter1138: (or someone) is CB36 for waggons only called when baught or when in depot or something like that? not when, i.e. speed is changed? ;) (for var2 type B4) 18:32:32 <TrueBrain> rortom: oh no, your poor soul .. 18:32:55 <rortom> ;) 18:33:11 <DJNekkid> it seems like i can change CID based on that only on engines, not wagons 18:33:30 <rortom> i worked 8 hours on network interface drivers today, im mentally killed ;) 18:33:36 * SmatZ just started Dungeon Master in DosBOX ... don't expect me to code in next 3 days :) 18:33:52 <TrueBrain> lol @ SmatZ 18:34:21 <SmatZ> I wonder if I can finish the game with only 1 character :) 18:34:28 <Bjarni> lol 18:35:07 <Bjarni> well... just send a dragon after him in the beginning and he will be back 18:35:23 * Rubidium wonders whether pushing the reset button counts as 1 character, it's after all a kind of key 18:35:54 <Bjarni> if you enter a hole in the floor in DM2 (in the beginning), you risked being sent to a room with a dragon and it was near impossible to beat 18:37:06 <SmatZ> :-) 18:37:35 <Bjarni> I don't think you were supposed to beat it 18:40:04 <SmatZ> hehe 18:40:12 <SmatZ> I never finished DM2 :( 18:40:26 <Bjarni> I never got far in it 18:40:48 <Bjarni> I ended up with a lot of dragon meat and I couldn't figure out how to get out 18:40:56 <SmatZ> :-D 18:41:05 <Bjarni> I didn't starve though 18:42:56 <peter1138> DJNekkid, what do you mean by change CID? 18:44:38 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:48:29 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:52:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm169.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:54:57 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:49 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7EBF4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00:34 *** sulai4511 [~Miranda@p5B2B772D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:02 <DJNekkid> cid = cargoID 19:03:16 *** sulai [~Miranda@p5B2B772D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:03:30 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:03:36 <DJNekkid> (were afk fixing the sattelite antenna) 19:03:53 <peter1138> Don't base CB36 decisions on speed. 19:04:00 <peter1138> (Except running cost) 19:05:24 <peter1138> And wagons don't have a speed anyway, you have to use parent scope. 19:05:44 <DJNekkid> well, it's the running cost i want to change actually ... with a CB36 and var2 B4 19:05:50 <DJNekkid> parent scope? 19:06:18 <peter1138> "related object" 19:06:35 <DJNekkid> hmm ... i.e. the speed of the engine? 19:06:41 <peter1138> Yes. 19:06:57 <DJNekkid> and then ... how would i do that? :p 19:07:46 <DJNekkid> the clue is, i want a different running cost on a wagon when standing still, then when in transit ... 19:08:03 <DJNekkid> or rather, opposite 19:08:14 <DJNekkid> use action0 when standing still, CB36 when running 19:08:19 <DJNekkid> and it works fine with the engine 19:08:29 <peter1138> Read the varaction 2 wiki. 19:09:03 <DJNekkid> hehe ... that i've done ... any pointers? ;) 19:09:17 <frosch123> search for "related" 19:09:19 <frosch123> :) 19:09:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:36 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:10:04 <DJNekkid> as in 82/4/6? :) 19:10:13 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230224147.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: (~_~]"] 19:10:29 <frosch123> actually 82/86/8A 19:11:10 <DJNekkid> something like -1 * 0 02 00 A4 86 B4 00 FF FF 01 A3 00 01 00 FF FF AF 00 then? 19:12:22 <DJNekkid> hmm, almost (i think) 19:12:55 <peter1138> By the way, that applies for engines too, in multiple engine consists. 19:13:35 <peter1138> So you should use related scope for both engines and wagons. 19:13:45 <DJNekkid> oki... 19:14:06 <DJNekkid> "!!Error (62): Offset 8: ID D7 has not been defined." 19:14:22 <DJNekkid> hmmm 19:14:26 <DJNekkid> *scratch head* 19:14:45 <DJNekkid> bah 19:14:47 <DJNekkid> wrong line 19:16:33 <DJNekkid> yey, that actually seem to work! 19:18:49 <DJNekkid> wow! thanx, again :) 19:19:24 <peter1138> Devs in "knowing what they're talking about" shocker? 19:20:05 <DJNekkid> NOPE ... 19:20:08 <DJNekkid> sry caps 19:20:22 <DJNekkid> but what shock me, is that i start to understand what you talk about :) 19:21:28 <DJNekkid> i dont need things with a teaspoon anymore ... atleast not that big'a teaspoon ;) 19:23:40 <Alberth> DJNekkid: I always find it fun to find that I understand something, and not being able to explain how in the past it made no sense at all :) 19:24:46 <glx> <@Rubidium> SmatZ: buildottd doesn't work for Vista <-- but it installs a working migw/msys 19:25:01 <DJNekkid> hehe ... well ... i've had a lot of "a-ha"-experiences with .nfo-codeing, and i bet i'll have a lot more of them in the future as well ... the crappy thing is that i now have to copy a lot of code into new places ... i wish i could make "routines" in nfo :) 19:26:56 <frosch123> learn M4, that would match the style of undocumented nfo code :) 19:27:20 <Prof_Frink> M4? Learn M6. 19:27:50 <DJNekkid> never heard of neither 19:28:01 <Alberth> Nah, there are words used in M4. That is way too complicated :P 19:28:16 <Alberth> M4 is a macro processor 19:29:18 <frosch123> if not the macro processor 19:29:22 <Alberth> Maybe use the C pre-processor? Single line limitations are better in line with NFO coding :P 19:29:48 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:38:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:40:52 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5C3AC.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:44:00 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738c830.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC] 19:45:19 <DJNekkid> peter1138 and/or frosch123: it seems like i need 2x the wanted value for the dualheaded engine (cb36 running cost mod) 19:47:00 <frosch123> yup, for dualheaded engines the running cost property specifies the running cost for both engines together 19:47:57 <DJNekkid> well, i made it ... a MU with a "high" running cost when running, and low when standing still, i.e. loading :) 19:48:13 <frosch123> that way the the same value can be shown in the buy and offer preview window 19:48:53 <DJNekkid> yea, when u say it, i need to double the CB36 in the purchase list sprite 19:49:43 <frosch123> no, you don't have to 19:50:11 <DJNekkid> hmm, somewhere i did ... 19:50:23 <DJNekkid> ah, in the action0 it need to be double 19:50:24 *** Noldo [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 19:51:30 *** sulai4511 [~Miranda@p5B2B772D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:51:43 <peter1138> Just remember that the value is for both parts together. 19:51:55 <DJNekkid> yup... 19:52:07 <DJNekkid> and in the CB is for the first one or whatever... 19:52:21 <DJNekkid> anyway, i did get the thing to work, now i just need a lot of copy and paste :) 19:53:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-116-255.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:53:41 <DJNekkid> something to do at work when there is little to do tomorrow or monday :) 19:54:32 <yorick> meh, what makedepend should I have? 19:57:33 <TrueBrain> the purple one 19:59:02 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 19:59:22 <Chrill> !seen brianetta 19:59:28 <Chrill> whats the command? :P 20:02:42 <yorick> @seen brianetta 20:02:42 <DorpsGek> yorick: brianetta was last seen in #openttd 8 hours, 50 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <Brianetta> Windows and Linux do not. 20:02:51 <Chrill> danke 20:03:27 <Belugas> ho? 20:03:30 <Belugas> how come??? 20:03:42 <Belugas> there's no milliseconds on that stuff!!! 20:04:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-70-101.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:39 <frosch123> DorpsGek is a wizard :) 20:05:59 <yorick> no, he's a DorpsGek 20:06:00 * TrueBrain wonders if Belugas took his pill or not ... :p 20:06:36 *** penfold [~p@cpc1-hem18-0-0-cust608.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Appalled I say!] 20:08:29 <Belugas> TrueBrain, what time is it? 20:08:35 <TrueBrain> @time 20:08:36 <TrueBrain> @date 20:08:39 <TrueBrain> dunno 20:09:00 <Belugas> well... here, it's 16:0something 20:09:04 <Belugas> which means... 20:09:06 <yorick> TrueBrain: the purple one only works for linux :-) 20:09:14 <Belugas> it's close to the end of ther day 20:09:23 <Belugas> and since you have not seem much of me today, 20:09:32 <Belugas> it means i had a HELL of a day 20:09:37 <Belugas> which means... 20:09:43 <TrueBrain> HUG TIME! 20:09:45 <Belugas> I"M GOING NUTS!!!!!! 20:09:51 <Belugas> ho... that too :D 20:10:08 * Belugas hugs all the channel's users! 20:10:17 * yorick hugs Beluga back 20:10:19 <yorick> cutie :) 20:10:29 <yorick> with those black little eyes :) 20:11:19 <Belugas> next time, i guess i'll nick myself as Orca... 20:11:25 <Noldo> :D 20:11:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:11:31 <yorick> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Beluga_sturgeon.png 20:12:30 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 20:12:38 <Belugas> bleeeeeeh 20:13:07 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Delphinapterus_leucas_head_2.jpg :) YEP, that's him :) Poef!] 20:13:16 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:09 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.152.68.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:16 <Belugas> heheh 20:16:22 <Belugas> crazy yorick 20:16:49 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@12-208-15-67.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 20:23:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fffd8.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:02 <TrueBrain> I tend to agree 20:25:12 *** King_Bowser_Koopa [ferrari250@h69-131-129-150.prsstn.dial.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:40 *** King_Bowser_Koopa [ferrari250@h69-131-129-150.prsstn.dial.dynamic.tds.net] has left #openttd [] 20:27:48 <Wolf01> 'night, and thank you again TrueBrain :D 20:27:57 <TrueBrain> any time Wolf01 :) 20:28:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host213-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:29:35 <Belugas> 3 minutes to find the way out... not too fast for a ferrari 20:29:39 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D8D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:21 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:38:59 *** aikie [~pieter@30.125-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #openttd 20:40:45 *** aikie [~pieter@30.125-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:17 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:43:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:31 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:47:19 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:08 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 21:02:48 <Belugas> hooooo yeaaaaa!! 21:02:52 <Belugas> it's time to 21:02:55 <Belugas> FLY HOME!!! 21:03:06 <Belugas> night all yu sleepers! 21:03:31 <Nite_Owl> L8r Belugas 21:10:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i still don't understand why tram turning is handled differently than road vehicle turning (at end of line) 21:16:47 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:47 *** welshdragon [~vista@host86-145-214-136.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:52 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 21:17:08 *** welshdragon [~vista@host86-145-214-136.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:19:10 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:19:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:19:13 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 21:19:42 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 21:26:03 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. More! More! More!] 21:33:17 <Nite_Owl> Massive thunderstorms on the way - got to fly before the power goes out - L8r all 21:33:37 <Bjarni> looks like somebody needs an UPS 21:33:55 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:35:01 <Prof_Frink> To ship all his kit to somewhere else? 21:36:15 *** Tim [~Tim@p5B37D8D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:17 <Bjarni> I bought an UPS because I got tired of turning off whenever the weather turned bad 21:38:40 <Bjarni> surprisingly a decent UPS costs way less than a computer 21:39:11 <DJNekkid> yea ... you can get a pretty huge UPS for a lot less then 1000$ 21:39:17 <Bjarni> and while it claims to work at a few minutes at max load, it can actually last more than 30 minutes with my setup 21:39:20 <Sacro> Bjarni: a UPS 21:39:21 <Sacro> not an 21:39:47 <Prof_Frink> Or you have a computer with built-in UPS. 21:39:56 <Bjarni> you can't have that 21:40:07 <Bjarni> UPS is way more than a battery 21:40:14 <Bjarni> it's also surge protection 21:40:34 * Prof_Frink surges at Bjarni 21:40:58 <Bjarni> if lightning strikes the power lines, then the UPS dies, but while dying it cuts the power to the computer rather than giving it dangerous voltage 21:41:42 <Bjarni> this process can make the UPS emit electrical fields that would be harmful to a computer (hence the reason why the minimum distance between them is something like 30 cm) 21:42:15 <DJNekkid> or it even dont die, but "only" blow a built in fuse 21:42:54 <Bjarni> at one time the power died and I used the UPS to boot so I could read the power company's web site (using a notebook, you can't power switch and ADSL modem) 21:42:55 <DJNekkid> and what people dont recogize, if they have wiered ethernet, that the switch and router/modem/++ needs to be protected as well... 21:43:24 <Bjarni> got informed that they expected to restore the power at something like 1 or 2 O'clock and it was around 23:00 21:43:28 <Bjarni> so I went to bed 21:44:11 <DJNekkid> http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=120384 21:44:22 <DJNekkid> 1500VA ups, to about 400⬠21:45:03 <Bjarni> <DJNekkid> and what people dont recogize, if they have wiered ethernet, that the switch and router/modem/++ needs to be protected as well... <-- I realised that... and placed the internet connection on the safe side, meaning the line between the modem and the phone outlet goes though the UPS 21:45:40 <DJNekkid> as well as the switches etc needs to be connected to the ups (the power) 21:45:53 <Bjarni> yeah 21:46:04 <DJNekkid> yea, most modern "household" ups' have a DSL-line protector-fuse-thingy 21:46:08 <DJNekkid> "overspenningsvÊrn" 21:46:19 <Bjarni> if I didn't connect the switch to the UPS, I would have a hard time connecting to figure out where the power went :) 21:46:25 <DJNekkid> "power-surge-protector" or something similar 21:47:12 <Bjarni> I talked to the UPS guys at one time 21:47:41 <Bjarni> they really build whatever UPS system you want (if you want to pay for it) 21:47:50 <DJNekkid> yup... i know 21:47:57 <Bjarni> and they last for as long as you request 21:48:08 <DJNekkid> i sort of work with that ... 21:48:11 <DJNekkid> kind of :) 21:48:23 <Bjarni> so if you have something important then you tell how long it takes to start the diesel generator x) 21:48:40 <Bjarni> sort of? 21:48:40 <DJNekkid> for example 21:49:13 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:15 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:26 <DJNekkid> well ... i "build" security measures for large enterprises ... break in detection, access control etc 21:49:44 <DJNekkid> and we have battery power on all our systems 21:49:44 <teggigi> so you're an it consultant 21:49:44 <teggigi> :p 21:50:02 <DJNekkid> as well as "wiered" power 21:50:19 <DJNekkid> teggigi: nah ... 21:50:20 <Bjarni> <teggigi> so you're an it consultant <-- aka wise guy 21:50:25 <teggigi> what 21:50:29 <teggigi> wasn't meant like that 21:50:29 <teggigi> :p 21:50:34 <teggigi> was just trying to put a word to it :( 21:50:42 <Bjarni> I know 21:50:46 <teggigi> or were you flaming it consultant 21:50:48 <DJNekkid> we just tease back :) 21:51:29 <teggigi> was just trying to explain to avoid confusion 21:51:33 <teggigi> or ... something! 21:52:11 <Bjarni> I have to say that as an electrical engineer I have a pretty good idea about how UPS systems and power supplies work ;) 21:52:22 <DJNekkid> Bjarni: no doubt 21:52:29 <Bjarni> I don't need an it consultant to inform me 21:52:46 <DJNekkid> im no it consultant 21:52:55 <Bjarni> then what are you? 21:53:13 <Bjarni> uneducated freelance consultant? 21:53:45 <DJNekkid> telecommunication technition 21:54:12 <Bjarni> I'm sorry 21:54:19 <DJNekkid> "telekommunikasjons montÞr" (you are danish right?) 21:54:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-3-70-101.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:54:57 <Bjarni> no, I'm actually a Chinese hacker, who are hiding behind a .dk domain (which I hacked for this purpose) 21:55:22 <DJNekkid> i somewhat doubt that :) 21:55:42 <teggigi> really now 21:56:06 <Bjarni> ç«ã¯è³Šçµµ 21:56:48 <DJNekkid> lol 21:57:07 <ln-> "Branden blev spredt maleri" 21:57:16 <Bjarni> next is to figure out what the hell I just wrote :) 21:57:22 <ln-> see above 21:57:56 <Bjarni> however I (by accident) included a char which isn't Chinese, but Japanese 21:58:03 <Bjarni> hence it means nothing in Chinese 21:58:19 <Ammler> the first? 21:58:26 <Bjarni> no 21:58:36 <Bjarni> 㯠21:58:39 <Bjarni> that one 21:59:37 <Bjarni> writing random chars in Japanese on a Latin keyboard is actually a bit tricky as you have to think about which random keys to press in order to form actual Asian chars 22:00:05 <Bjarni> completely random keystrokes will produce an odd mix of Chinese and Latin chars 22:01:12 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:16 <DJNekkid> anyway... 22:01:24 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:24 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:01:38 <Bjarni> btw I was in the newspaper the other day 22:02:10 <Bjarni> well, sort of 22:02:28 <DJNekkid> mee to, well, my name was ... or ... my stage name was ;) 22:02:34 <Bjarni> http://nordkysten.nu/?Id=6285 <-- basically this is how I spent my weekend 22:03:25 <DJNekkid> kozy ,) 22:04:32 <ln-> thomas the tank engine 22:04:52 <Bjarni> yeah 22:04:58 <Bjarni> kids everywhere 22:04:58 <teggigi> thomastoget (Y) 22:05:09 <ln-> the series was narrated by ringo starr. 22:05:21 <DJNekkid> just the first couple of seasons 22:05:27 <ln-> yes, but still. 22:06:17 <Bjarni> they made new seasons and you can see that they added computer animation 22:06:49 <DJNekkid> i heavent seen thoose yet 22:08:38 <DJNekkid> well, im off to sleep, cya 22:10:05 <Bjarni> damn they removed the article where I was interviewed :( 22:10:28 <Eddi|zuHause> it couldn't have been important then :p 22:12:08 <Bjarni> actually it was 22:12:16 <Bjarni> I was in it 22:12:21 <ln-> maybe it had to be classified 22:12:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you keep telling yourself that ;) 22:14:17 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:15:35 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 22:18:19 <ln-> well what did you say in the interview? 22:19:13 <Sacro> @seen tekky 22:19:13 <DorpsGek> Sacro: tekky was last seen in #openttd 4 days, 16 hours, 10 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Tekky> I found the cause of the problem and have reported it to FlySpray: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/2298 22:19:46 * Sacro has noticed he's been posting binaries without the licence included 22:20:10 <ln-> "Êr det du som kÞr tÃ¥get?" - "ja." ? 22:22:09 <ln-> and btw, kill bill soundtrack has some excellent songs. 22:24:29 <Eddi|zuHause> it does. 22:28:16 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:26 <Bjarni> <ln-> well what did you say in the interview? <--- basically it was an article about http://nordkysten.nu/?Id=5416 . The difference was that it was a journalist who were actually on the train interviewing the crew 22:34:35 <Bjarni> and I talked about technical stuff (go figure) 22:36:23 <ln-> like "yes, and you need to pay attention to endianness because that's different on PPC"? 22:36:36 <Bjarni> no 22:36:50 <Bjarni> actually it was technical about the locomotive 22:37:07 <Bjarni> and it lacks endianess :p 22:37:13 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:23 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 22:37:41 <ln-> steam locomotives have endianness 22:38:52 <Bjarni> explain 22:39:17 <Bjarni> they have engineness, but endianess? 22:39:18 <ln-> like eggs have 22:43:10 <ln-> could it be that Bjarni has segfaulted because he's not saying anything 22:43:45 <Bjarni> are you talking about a core dump? 22:44:36 <ln-> heavens, no 22:44:48 <ln-> but well, have you heard kill bill soundtrack? 22:47:15 <Bjarni> maybe 22:47:32 <Bjarni> I have heard the name kill bill before 22:47:40 <Bjarni> but I can't really remember what it's all about 22:48:20 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: There's this bloke called Bill. 22:48:33 <Prof_Frink> Someone wants to kill him. 22:48:37 <Bjarni> bill@microsoft.com <-- that guy? 22:48:59 <ln-> no, just Bill. 22:49:42 <Bjarni> <ln-> "Êr det du som kÞr tÃ¥get?" - "ja." ? <-- this is a fairly decent question 22:49:50 <Bjarni> I have heard worse questions 22:50:47 <Bjarni> like this one: somebody looks at the driver in the cab in the steam locomotive and asks if that is the place where the train is controlled from 22:51:43 <Bjarni> or (this one is golden): what do you do in real life if you have to connect two wagons and the magnets don't match. I know with toy trains you life up one car and turn it around, but what do you do in real life? 22:52:37 <ln-> then it becomes a maglev train, of course. 22:54:54 <Sacro> magnets? 22:55:35 <Bjarni> yeah 22:55:39 <Bjarni> to connect the wagons 22:55:45 <TrueBrain> poor Sacro doesn't know what magnets are :p 22:55:58 <Sacro> :( 22:56:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:57:04 <Bjarni> a magnet is a silver bird 23:00:59 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:01:04 *** Prof_Frink is now known as Capn_Frink 23:02:20 <roboboy> fixing a problem with mibbit 23:02:20 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 23:02:20 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:02:30 <roboboy> fixing a problem with mibbit 23:02:30 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 23:02:30 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:02:47 <roboboy> fixing a problem with mibbit 23:02:47 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 23:02:47 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:03:51 <welshdragon> roboboy, FIX IT ALREADY 23:04:16 * Bjarni goes to get a screwdriver 23:04:27 <Capn_Frink> Sonic? 23:04:33 <FauxFaux> To stick in roboboy? 23:04:54 * Bjarni uses the screwdriver to fasten roboboy to the channel 23:04:59 <Eddi|zuHause> is it that day already? 23:05:02 <Bjarni> no more falling overboard 23:05:10 <Capn_Frink> Keelhaul the scurvey dog! 23:05:13 <Bjarni> aye 23:05:21 <Eddi|zuHause> years go by way too fast ;) 23:05:21 <welshdragon> oh god 23:05:37 <Bjarni> ? 23:05:38 <welshdragon> it had better not be talk like a pirate day 23:06:01 <Bjarni> let's make that landlubber walk the plank 23:06:14 <roboboy> im fixed 23:06:31 <roboboy> I like mibbit and it is the only way I can connect 23:06:38 <welshdragon> SSSSSHHHHHHIIIIVER ME TIMBERS 23:06:57 <Eddi|zuHause> roboboy: but you really don't have to spam like this 23:07:07 <Eddi|zuHause> any why 3 times every time? 23:07:36 <Bjarni> ohoy maties.... take a look at this http://www.qdb.us/67325 23:07:42 <roboboy> because each time it fixes the problem a littlebit more 23:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: ooooold 23:08:20 <roboboy> it cant be fixed with one partjoin unless you want me to disconect and reconnect 23:08:28 <welshdragon> Bjarni, it made nme :P 23:08:40 <Bjarni> nme? 23:09:08 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: Christmas is old too but we repeat ourselves that day every year anyway 23:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause> same procedure as last year? 23:09:55 <Bjarni> same procedure as every year miss Sophie 23:10:03 <Bjarni> err 23:10:10 <welshdragon> Bjarni, i did a typo 23:10:13 <Bjarni> same procedure as every year James 23:10:16 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong... "james" is that 23:10:51 <Bjarni> Danish television broadcasts it every new year's eve 23:11:05 <Bjarni> for the past 30 years or something 23:11:31 <Bjarni> one year they skipped it and they drowned in complains so now they don't dare not to send it :D 23:11:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it's the most repeated show of all times in germany 23:13:14 <Bjarni> on a new year's eve you can see what's on TV by looking at the amount of fireworks 23:13:29 <Bjarni> it really drops when certain stuff is on TV 23:13:32 <Bjarni> like this one 23:13:41 <ln-> wtf are you talking about? 23:13:41 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:13:43 <Bjarni> and the queen's new year's speech 23:14:15 <teggigi> schkaaaaaaaal mr winterbottom 23:14:34 *** Sacro is now known as Sarrrrcro 23:14:35 <teggigi> love it when he's trying to throw the booze into the glass 23:15:00 <Bjarni> or drinks from the vase (I will kill that cat) 23:15:05 <teggigi> hahahah 23:16:29 *** welshdragon is now known as welshpirate 23:16:43 *** teggigi [~asd@ti0056a340-dhcp0311.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:56 <Bjarni> at one time the radio had "an expert" (it would appear that it's really easy to become an expert these days) to analyse the guests 23:17:12 <Bjarni> talking about the most likely background story for their names and stuff like that 23:17:42 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:17:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:17:48 <Bjarni> <ln-> wtf are you talking about? <-- we are making up stuff to ensure that this channel is a mystery to you 23:18:06 <Bjarni> and it looks like it's working 23:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTA9KHRDmoI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2_2_t_AXhY 23:22:57 <ln-> has anyone experienced the LHC destroying earth yet? 23:23:19 <welshpirate> ln-, nay 23:24:25 <Bjarni> aye 23:24:38 <Bjarni> I think it happened 3 times already 23:25:13 <Eddi|zuHause> http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ 23:26:05 <ln-> 3.1 million views for Large Hadron Rap 23:26:49 <FauxFaux> Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolde. 23:27:22 <Bjarni> I don't think that experiment is a good idea 23:27:34 <Bjarni> considering what else the money could be spend on 23:28:30 <ln-> e.g. war on iran 23:28:50 <Bjarni> but I have yet to see what they actually want to achieve as my information mainly relies on journalists (who understands shit about physics and is against everybody in order to make a story) 23:29:18 <Bjarni> nahh 23:29:27 <Bjarni> it's better with war on Uganda 23:29:40 <Sarrrrcro> Yarrrrrr 23:29:47 <ln-> Bjarni: search youtube for "large hadron rap" to get a brief introduction -- by physicists -- to what they are looking for. 23:30:05 <Eddi|zuHause> as far as i can tell, they are searching for the Higgs-Boson, which they hope will explain some stuff about how gravity works 23:30:51 <ln-> it's about time, because we're supposed to have hover boards of BTTF2 in only 7 years. 23:30:59 <ln-> and flying cars. 23:35:46 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:50 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a scene in stargate, where they were testing an experimental jet that used extraterrestrial technology, and they go like "inertia dampers - check" - "cool, do we have phasers, too?" - "don't be silly" :p 23:37:25 <ln-> and Star Trek Enterprise appears to be available in sensibly-priced slimline boxes now. 23:37:51 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:38:23 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not going to buy that 23:38:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:38:37 <ln-> why not 23:39:50 <Bjarni> it's Enterprise 23:40:25 <Bjarni> that's why 23:41:02 <ln-> are you qualified to say so? 23:41:10 <Bjarni> yeah 23:41:30 <Progman> Eddi|zuHause: "I got an idea for the X-103" - "Which one?" - "Can we name them 'Enterprise'?" 23:41:52 <Bjarni> I watched (at least parts of) all series expect the animated series 23:41:58 <Bjarni> Enterprise sucks big time 23:42:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i have seen a few of the animated episodes a long time ago 23:42:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't actually remember anything, though :p 23:42:58 <Bjarni> I don't like the animated series or TOS. They were made in an era where USA produced horrible TV shows >_< 23:43:01 <ln-> but it has scott bacula as captain 23:43:56 <Eddi|zuHause> ln-: i'm not going to spend money on a show that is going to be repeated so often in free tv 23:44:11 <Bjarni> that's a fairly decent argument 23:44:21 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause: you live in the wrong country. 23:44:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean they repeated it already like 3 times 23:44:37 <Bjarni> You mean they spean German? 23:44:45 <Bjarni> *speak 23:45:15 <ln-> that, too, but over here you can be assured no Trek series is "repeated so ofte in free tv". 23:47:14 *** Mark [~M4rk@5ED06C8E.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:58 <ln-> 3 seasons + a few of 4 of TNG was shown in early 1990's, seasons 1 and 2 repeated ~2005. 23:48:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F549.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:28 <ln-> in the meanwhile, some not very widely available cable channel showed seasons 4..7. 23:49:08 <Eddi|zuHause> they're currently showing TOS here, i think 23:50:37 <ln-> and apart from maybe TOS, no Trek series has been shown on finnish tv from season 1 to N. 23:51:21 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 23:51:36 <ln-> maybe 4 seasons of DS9 were shown, 1 of Voyager, zero of Enterprise. 23:51:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i guess the TV market is too small there for souch niche series 23:52:27 <ln-> or we have broadcasting companies ran by idiots. 23:52:33 <ln-> *run 23:52:55 <Eddi|zuHause> that'd not be much different from here :p 23:53:05 <Bjarni> ln-: how can it be that what you want to watch isn't on TV at your place so you buy DVDs and it's on TV for free where Eddi|zuHause lives, yet it's Eddi|zuHause who lives in the wrong country 23:53:25 <ln-> like really, they quit showing TNG in the middle of a season. 23:53:39 <Bjarni> they do that here too 23:53:53 <Bjarni> not with Star Trek, but all series 23:53:53 *** Volley [~worf@84-119-46-6.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:54:32 <Bjarni> like "let's show 40 out of 50 episodes... it's not like people will care for the conclusion anyway" 23:54:47 <Eddi|zuHause> they did that with doctor who here, which they kept locked up for 3 years, and then complained about the lack of viewers for a highly underadvertised series on an unsuitible time slot 23:55:01 <ln-> in the 90's, TNG was shown in prime time, at 1900 tuesdays or something. 23:55:20 <Eddi|zuHause> your prime time is 19:00? 23:55:32 <Bjarni> TNG was once shown here at 1:15 on Wednesday (or something like that) 23:55:33 <ln-> well, sort of. compared to something else. 23:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause> 19:00 is like the worst viewed timeslot around here 23:55:57 <Bjarni> 19:00 is the news here 23:56:10 <Bjarni> or garbage 23:56:24 <Eddi|zuHause> THE news here is on 20:00 23:56:33 <Eddi|zuHause> then 20:15 the prime time begins 23:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause> statistics say that the 21:15 timeslot is the best viewed 23:57:02 <ln-> then the other channel that showed DS9 and Voyager in late 90's, and the time slot was something like Sundays "at some time between 12:00 and 15:00", or Saturdays 00:30..01:xx. 23:57:05 <Bjarni> we have news from 19:00 to 19:30, then we have local news until 20:00 23:57:48 <Bjarni> they suck at finding news to fill out 30 minutes every day though 23:58:07 <Bjarni> so you can usually get the stuff you want to see in the first 10 minutes 23:59:28 <Bjarni> however I think the news have become more and more political controlled 23:59:41 <Bjarni> I mean they are changed to fit the view of the journalists 23:59:54 <Bjarni> which is case of DR is far to the left