Log for #openttd on 14th October 2008:
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00:33:07  <WebGuest> hey...
00:33:12  <A_Person> I wonder if anyone has ever managed to fill a whole map with a city with good service
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00:33:38  <WebGuest> all multiplayers servers are down or I'm facing some kind of problem?
00:36:17  <glx> it's on your end
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01:04:13  <WebGuest> @glx can you suggest what should I do?
01:04:50  <WebGuest> I have a fresh install of the latest stable release
01:06:21  <glx> I guess you pressed "find servers"
01:06:31  <WebGuest> there's a huge list of server (after I press the the button)
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01:06:52  <WebGuest> all ip numbers (no names)
01:06:58  <WebGuest> and all offline
01:07:18  <glx> so you get the list but you failed to query the servers
01:07:38  <WebGuest> is necessary any portforwading ?
01:07:40  <glx> looks like you have a problem with UDP
01:07:50  <glx> for playing it's not needed
01:08:00  <WebGuest> only for hosting, right?
01:08:03  <glx> yes
01:10:03  <WebGuest> is there any debug files I could check?
01:11:05  <glx> openttd -d net9
01:12:26  <glx> you should see something about master server, then a list of "added server to list", then many "server response from ..."
01:13:44  <WebGuest> [udp] listening on port
01:13:57  <WebGuest> this is wrong for sure :P
01:14:02  <glx> no it's ok
01:14:33  <WebGuest> the detected broadcast add. where (LAN), that's ok right?
01:14:40  <WebGuest> were
01:14:48  <glx> yes
01:15:10  <WebGuest> it resolved the master ok, and queried, then theres the list of 'added server to list'
01:15:52  <glx> so you correctly get the reply from the master server (it gave you the list)
01:16:16  <WebGuest> yeah.... did'nt get the individual server queries responses
01:16:26  <WebGuest> probably because is listening on invalid port
01:16:37  <glx> no
01:17:10  <glx> as it works for me with
01:17:38  <WebGuest> if i try to manually refresh server, nothing changes on the debug screen
01:18:24  <glx> when I refresh I get a new "server response..." line
01:18:54  <glx> so it's or your router, or your ISP
01:19:18  <WebGuest> well.... i dont run any firewall
01:19:18  <WebGuest> or such
01:20:01  <WebGuest> router i think
01:20:06  <WebGuest> just checked the logs...
01:20:27  <glx> many drop udp replys?
01:20:27  <WebGuest> "Unrecognized attempt blocked from to 189.83.###.### UDP:64231"
01:20:52  <WebGuest> this IP is from one of the server
01:20:58  <WebGuest> servers*
01:21:44  <WebGuest> cleared the router's log, and tryed to fetch the servers list again...
01:21:53  <WebGuest> got many lines as the one aboves
01:22:26  <glx> ok so it's your router, but I don't know how to solve that
01:23:01  <WebGuest> the default conf. of the router shouldn't block that kind of packet, as it's a response to a request.....
01:23:16  <glx> it fails to link the reply with the query you sent
01:25:31  <WebGuest> crap of router, lol
01:25:46  <WebGuest> it's a dlink 524..... any known issues with that one?
01:26:07  <glx> it's brand ;)
01:26:23  <WebGuest> the model 524
01:26:27  <WebGuest> DI-524
01:27:06  <glx> dunno but I never used "real" routers
01:27:37  <glx> only provider's boxes
01:29:37  <WebGuest> well then.... I'll see what I can do later
01:29:51  <WebGuest> thank you very much for your efforts
01:29:54  <glx> "Some more intelligent firewalls/routers recognize return transmissions and allow them, similar to TCP. But not all are that intelligent... "
01:30:05  <glx> I found this via google :)
01:31:35  <WebGuest> looks mine is dumb
01:31:41  <WebGuest> :P
01:31:45  <WebGuest> must got now....
01:31:49  <WebGuest> thanks again
01:31:59  <WebGuest> I'll try to find a solution
01:32:07  <WebGuest> cya !
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01:44:02  <A_Person> If I link a truck and bus depot do they increase eachother's caption area?
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01:45:44  <glx> yes, the new catchment area will be a square big enough to contain both catchment area
01:46:19  <A_Person> so for both good types
01:46:33  <A_Person> it'll grab both mail and passengers further?
01:47:07  <A_Person> you mean a rectangle?
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01:51:48  <A_Person> hm, I should buy me a new monitor or hack the game to display every pixel twice as large
01:57:38  <Sacro> or both
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02:02:23  <A_Person> Or I could sleep, bye
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06:30:56  <dih> mornin'
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07:13:05  <dih> i dont believe 1&1
07:13:11  <dih> what a rubbish company
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08:55:15  <dih> so a bug in make is causing the hash in a function to be interpreted as a comment :-P
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08:58:00  <dih>
08:58:01  <TrueBrain> dih: only for Ammlers his make :p
08:58:34  <dih> i have 3.81 and still have that bug
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08:58:38  <dih> i was just wondering about it
08:58:44  <TrueBrain> ah, .src, k k :p
08:58:51  <TrueBrain> morning all! :)
08:58:56  <dih> hello :-)
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09:00:23  <dih> so there is a reason to move away from the old delimiter, but the hash aint the best solution :-P
09:00:54  <dih> i could expect a bunch of other systems having issues with using that flag
09:01:02  <dih> morphos? :-P
09:03:12  <dih> TrueBrain: what version of make is on the compile farm?
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09:06:55  <TrueBrain> who cares? :P
09:07:22  <dih> my curiosity :-)
09:07:45  <dih> all the IN maintainers will care
09:08:01  <TrueBrain> I really don't feel like loogging in there, to look into it
09:08:03  <TrueBrain> no, they won't
09:08:27  <dih> those who create IN's with client-only patches
09:08:37  <dih> so others can still run on all other nighlies
09:08:47  <dih> well - i assume one could just edit
09:08:50  <TrueBrain> still don't see it ..
09:09:03  <TrueBrain> the compile-farm does NOT compile IN binaries
09:09:07  <TrueBrain> (and most likely never will)
09:09:12  <dih> ah - true
09:09:15  <dih> wait
09:09:28  <dih> the compilefarm used to create our wwottdgd builds ;-)
09:10:21  <dih> yeah - ok, we can simple modify :-P
09:12:46  <TrueBrain> and you really expect this problem to exist to the end of times?
09:13:26  <TrueBrain> boy, you don't know developers at all, do you? :)
09:14:16  <dih> Boy - you really think i would ask this if i did not know some things to move slower than others?
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09:14:33  <dih> you really think i would bother you with something i dont think could happen in the next 3-4 weeks?
09:14:43  <dih> you really think i just want to annoy you
09:14:54  <dih> perhaps i was wondering and looking to find a way to help fix it
09:14:55  <TrueBrain> on a scale from 1 to 10? :) :)
09:14:58  <dih> ever occured to you?
09:15:27  <dih> i love the fact that you can just put people into boxes so well TrueBrain
09:15:35  <TrueBrain> dih: please don't forget to take your pills :)
09:15:37  <dih> esp those you ought to know a wee bit better
09:15:53  <TrueBrain> I love ignore lists
09:16:02  <dih> f
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09:19:31  <TrueBrain> morning Brianetta
09:20:25  <Brianetta> Indeed!
09:20:28  <Brianetta> Good morning to you.
09:25:39  <TrueBrain> what a lovely IRC client this is ... I can extend my ignore list to include *!* ..... and no way to remove it from the type-line
09:25:42  <TrueBrain> oh happy days :p
09:35:04  <roboboy> who wrote openttd's windows installer?
09:35:35  <TrueBrain> does it matter who?
09:36:21  <roboboy> a current dev?
09:36:30  <roboboy> just wondering
09:36:41  <TrueBrain> why does it matter? :)
09:36:46  <roboboy> or a current community member?
09:37:04  <TrueBrain> (serious wondering what it adds who wrote it :) All I can see what matters is the current state :))
09:37:40  <TrueBrain> try 'svn blame' if you really want to know :)
09:38:13  <Rubidium> or svn log
09:38:24  <roboboy> ill ask a new question. Do any of the current developers fully understande the code?
09:38:44  <TrueBrain> roboboy: without doubt there is enough knowledge to understand the code
09:38:50  <TrueBrain> so I suggest just asking the question you want to ask :)
09:39:06  <roboboy> ok ill ask it when it needs asking
09:39:37  <TrueBrain> lol
09:40:09  <TrueBrain> morning Rubidium
09:41:01  <Rubidium> anyhow, svn blame will show you that a TrueLight did commit quite a lot of it
09:41:26  <TrueBrain> really? r1?
09:41:32  <roboboy> or how does the installer use the ttd registry key to get the ttd install path? I understand that it is stored in the registry, but how does the installer use it
09:42:34  <Brianetta> I'm pretty sure there's an API to the registry
09:42:54  <roboboy> there is
09:43:00  <Brianetta> wouldn't it be funny if it called regedit?
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09:43:24  <TrueBrain> roboboy: use 'grep'
09:43:27  <roboboy> but I tried reading the code to understand it and got lost
09:43:27  <TrueBrain> look for HKLM
09:43:32  <roboboy> ok
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09:44:04  <roboboy> oh how do I use svn blame from tortoise
09:44:19  <TrueBrain> :p
09:44:24  <Brianetta> Doesn't Windows/Tortoise have the command line tools?
09:44:26  <TrueBrain> (sorry, I don't use it, so use the help :p)
09:44:36  * Rubidium redirects roboboy to Tortoise's manual
09:44:54  <Brianetta> Tortoise isn't half a funny name anyway
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09:46:10  <Rubidium> but then... maybe roboboy doesn't know how to read/understand it
09:46:41  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: uncalled for :)
09:46:45  <Rubidium> hmm... so... roboboy is an AI trying to pretend to be a human: Turing test failed
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09:47:05  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: he lasted longer then the one of the last weekend :p
09:47:35  <Brianetta> Reading Uni is running Turing tests for real
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09:48:03  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: he actually switch the human controlling roboboy with an AI over the weekend
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09:48:07  <TrueBrain> morning Celestar :)
09:48:25  <TrueBrain> see what you did Rubidium! :)
09:49:12  <Rubidium> yup, I sent it back to the drawing board
09:49:46  <TrueBrain> design a better one yourself :p
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09:51:38  <Celestar> morning TrueBrain
09:52:16  <TrueBrain> how was your weekend? Cargodest productive? :p
09:52:40  <Celestar> TrueBrain: I got overloaded with work :(
09:52:52  <Celestar> situation will continue for the next 2.5 weeks :(
09:52:59  <TrueBrain> sucks :)
09:53:22  <TrueBrain> good luck!!!
09:57:54  <Celestar> thanks :D
09:58:44  <Celestar> and currently I'm sitting at home, caring for my sister (she's been taken ill) and copying 12GB of data to work upon over my stupid DSL line
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10:01:14  <TrueBrain> :s
10:01:19  <TrueBrain> I hope she gets better soon :)
10:03:15  <Celestar> yeah she will
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10:15:47  <TrueBrain> haha, cool name :)
10:15:56  <Brianetta> babyottd is a bot who might one day pass a turing test
10:16:11  <Brianetta> just a baby right now
10:16:16  <Brianetta> but will learn from us
10:16:22  <Brianetta> and, unfortunately, Jolteon
10:16:30  <TrueBrain> what can he do?
10:16:34  <TrueBrain> jump?
10:16:39  <Brianetta> !help
10:16:39  <babyottd> Pyborg commands:
10:16:39  <babyottd> !checkdict, !contexts, !help, !known, !learning, !rebuilddict, !replace, !unlearn, !purge, !version, !words, !limit, !alias, !save, !censor, !uncensor, !owner
10:16:39  <babyottd> IRC Module Commands:
10:16:39  <babyottd> !chans, !ignore, !join, !nick, !part, !quit, !quitmsg, !reply2ignored, !replyrate, !shutup, !stealth, !unignore, !wakeup, !talk, !owner
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10:16:57  <Brianetta> not an awful lot
10:17:00  <Brianetta> just chat
10:17:07  <TrueBrain> well, CHAT!
10:17:11  <Brianetta> !wakeup
10:17:23  * keyweed_ rises
10:17:36  <Brianetta> I guess he doesn't have enough words yet
10:17:42  <Brianetta> !words
10:17:42  <babyottd> I know 50 words (58 contexts, 1.16 per word), 12 lines.
10:18:15  <TrueBrain> so we
10:18:17  <TrueBrain> just need
10:18:18  <TrueBrain> to feed him
10:18:21  <TrueBrain> more stupid stuff?
10:18:32  <TrueBrain> !version
10:18:32  <babyottd> I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg
10:18:33  <TrueBrain> !owner
10:18:44  <Rubidium> especially about interesting dilemma's
10:18:51  <keyweed_> pyborg oO
10:19:01  <Rubidium> or maybe teach him some lemmas
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10:20:14  <Rubidium> though it's questionable whether it'll become viable replacement for the stupid people joining here all the time
10:20:14  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: I really like its name, can't help it :)
10:20:27  <TrueBrain> !talk
10:23:32  <Brianetta> (:
10:23:32  <babyottd> cool name : )
10:23:52  <Brianetta> He said his first words (:
10:23:53  <TrueBrain> stupid similies (even worse then yours)
10:23:56  * Rubidium slaps babyottd
10:24:40  <Brianetta> !replyrate
10:24:41  <Rubidium> :O (s)he doesn't cry... great upbringing
10:24:42  <babyottd> it : )
10:24:53  <Brianetta> !replyrate 2
10:25:31  * Rubidium ponders feeding babyottd some lorem ipsum ;)
10:25:46  <TrueBrain> babyottd: no, it is ET
10:25:48  <Brianetta> !ignore from CIA
10:25:50  <TrueBrain> it is no show ..
10:25:56  <babyottd> TrueBrain : i really like its name, can't help it
10:26:12  <Brianetta> He's working on it.
10:26:17  <TrueBrain> babyottd: please don't repeat me
10:26:22  <Brianetta> Not enough context yet for things that aren't just repeats.
10:26:23  <babyottd> he doesn't have enough words yet
10:26:29  <keyweed_> feed it some slayer lyrics :D
10:26:47  <TrueBrain> Sed ut perspiciatis, unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam eaque ipsa, quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt, explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem, quia voluptas sit, aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos, qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt, neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum, quia dolor sit, amet, consectetur,
10:26:48  <TrueBrain> adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt, ut labore et dolore
10:26:59  <Celestar> Lorem Ipsum
10:27:08  <Brianetta> Great.  Now he's going to save them until somebody says something in latin.
10:27:08  <babyottd> he's
10:27:18  <TrueBrain> ;)
10:27:19  <babyottd> ( : )
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10:27:39  <TrueBrain> palma non sine pulvere
10:27:45  * Rubidium hopes S acro doesn't see that reply of babyottd
10:27:46  <TrueBrain> (no rewards without effort)
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10:28:30  <Brianetta> lobster!
10:28:30  <babyottd> Brianetta : i really like its name, can't cry
10:28:35  <Brianetta> He can teach
10:28:48  <keyweed_> #/msg babyottd catgz /usr/doc/*/*gz
10:28:48  <Brianetta> deep, deep inside your intestines
10:28:50  <babyottd> keyweed_ rises
10:28:55  <TrueBrain> can't cry, LOL!
10:28:59  <babyottd> name, can't repeat me
10:29:00  <keyweed_> again?
10:29:01  <babyottd> do ?
10:29:12  <Brianetta> and we have reached critical mass.
10:29:49  <Brianetta> that's deep
10:29:49  <babyottd> hopes s acro doesn't cry, lol !
10:29:57  * Brianetta hugs babyottd
10:30:01  <Rubidium> maybe we should start about bogies, catenaries and such
10:30:05  <Brianetta> yes
10:30:25  <TrueBrain> it is already as annoying as some users :p
10:30:29  <Brianetta> and maybe some owen rudge references
10:31:18  <Rubidium> babyottd: bogie is a low strongly built car
10:31:19  <babyottd> it is et
10:31:37  <Rubidium> rather the other way around
10:31:45  <Brianetta> what is bogey?
10:31:45  <babyottd> stuff ?
10:31:48  <Brianetta> yes!
10:32:27  <Rubidium> babyottd: what word can be described as "the curve assumed by a cord of uniform density and cross section that is perfectly flexible but not capable of being stretched and that hangs freely from two fixed points"
10:32:32  <Rubidium> +?
10:32:33  <babyottd> do ?
10:32:41  <Rubidium> try again
10:32:48  <Brianetta> go on babyottd
10:32:55  <Brianetta> he's thinking
10:33:01  <Brianetta> about the curve
10:33:01  <babyottd> rather the other way around
10:33:28  * Doorslammer notes the current painfulness of watching this train wreck of an IRC chat
10:33:48  <TrueBrain> the other way around?
10:33:49  <Brianetta> Doorslammer (:
10:33:50  <babyottd> Brianetta : please don't see that reply of babyottd
10:33:51  <babyottd> about the curve
10:34:11  <TrueBrain> about the curve?
10:34:14  <TrueBrain> you still don't make sense
10:34:26  <Brianetta> It's best to ignore him for a bit
10:34:27  <babyottd> on Brianetta is a bot who might one day pass
10:34:38  <Brianetta> pass the turing test, yes
10:34:38  <babyottd> rather the other way around
10:34:38  <TrueBrain> hahahahaha :)
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10:34:41  <Celestar> xfs is NOT happy with the device being unplugged in the middle of a write :P
10:34:47  <babyottd> day pass a turing test, yes
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10:34:58  <Doorslammer> I may have to Tango slap someone in a minute
10:34:59  <TrueBrain> Celestar: devices rarely are .. not related to xfs :p
10:35:00  <Brianetta> hey gekz
10:35:05  <Gekz> hi.
10:35:10  <Gekz> whats up
10:35:26  <Brianetta> Please try not to engage babyottd in any deep or meaningful conversation.
10:35:34  <Brianetta> He's only ten minutes old.
10:35:34  <babyottd> he's
10:35:34  <TrueBrain> and the other bot joins
10:35:35  <TrueBrain> welcome Gekz
10:35:41  <babyottd> and we have reached critical mass
10:35:45  <babyottd> TrueBrain : i really like its name, can't repeat me
10:35:48  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: but it is cool to try ;)
10:35:51  <babyottd> dolorem ipsum, )
10:35:53  <Gekz> TrueBrain: wilkommen.
10:36:01  <Rubidium> should babyottd be seen as facetious?
10:36:02  <babyottd> bogey ?
10:36:08  <Doorslammer> Et tu, numbnuts?
10:36:13  <Gekz> babyottd: you is bot?
10:36:16  <Gekz> No.
10:36:16  <babyottd> no
10:36:17  <Brianetta> Rubidium: He learns from us, so.. yeah.
10:36:17  <Doorslammer> Bloody pillock, more like
10:36:34  <Celestar> TrueBrain: yeah :P
10:36:53  <Gekz> No.
10:36:54  <Brianetta> !ignore CIA-1
10:36:55  <Gekz> >_>!
10:36:55  <babyottd> it is no show
10:36:57  <Celestar> TrueBrain: accidently unplugged the wrong device.
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10:37:02  <Gekz> lol babyottd IS a bot
10:37:04  <babyottd> you is bot ?
10:37:06  <Celestar> TrueBrain: because my external HDD has 2 USB plugs :(
10:37:06  <babyottd> ( :
10:37:09  <Gekz> wtf.
10:37:11  <Rubidium> babyottd: do you have a savings account at Icesave?
10:37:12  <TrueBrain> Celestar: sucks ...
10:37:19  <babyottd> TrueBrain : he said his first words (
10:37:22  <Brianetta> ICE is a train
10:37:22  <babyottd> just a baby right now
10:37:25  <TrueBrain> I agree with babyottd: Gekz is a bot
10:37:34  <babyottd> i really like its name, can't help it : )
10:37:42  <Gekz> wtf
10:37:53  <Gekz> I hate you people bringing me into confusing situations
10:37:54  <Gekz> !
10:37:54  <Celestar> TrueBrain: the again, it doesn't need external power, it pulls all from the USB ports, but since my laptop only has two USB ports ...
10:37:55  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: no, "Gekz is bot"
10:37:56  <Doorslammer> I blame this all on Putin you know
10:37:59  <babyottd> no, Rubidium is a train
10:38:05  <Ammler> Celestar: the 2. is for more power
10:38:06  <Gekz> rofl
10:38:14  <TrueBrain> lol @ babyottd
10:38:16  <Gekz> cat is dog
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10:38:18  <Ammler> but mostly not needed anymore, is it?
10:38:18  <Celestar> Ammler: yeah I know
10:38:27  <Ammler> I never needed that.
10:38:32  <babyottd> i guess he doesn't cry
10:38:34  <Celestar> Ammler: the drive doesn't spin up without the 2nd one.
10:38:39  <Rubidium>
10:38:40  <Rubidium>
10:38:41  * Doorslammer writes in purple for a change
10:38:41  <Gekz> Celestar: WD?
10:38:42  <babyottd> she doesn't see that reply of babyottd
10:38:42  <babyottd> it ?
10:38:43  <Celestar> Ammler: once it is connected, it works  :)
10:38:44  <babyottd> Rubidium : please don't cry
10:38:45  <Rubidium> oeps ;)
10:38:46  <babyottd> try, )
10:38:48  <Celestar> Gekz: dunno actually (=
10:38:50  <babyottd> slaps babyottd some lorem ipsum, )
10:38:57  <babyottd> Celestar : accidently unplugged the wrong device
10:39:02  <Gekz> Celestar: I hate multiple usb plug drives
10:39:11  <Gekz> Celestar: I have a usb->sata adapter
10:39:17  <Gekz> takes AC power and a usb cord
10:39:18  <babyottd> and we have reached critical mass
10:39:21  <babyottd> hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
10:39:22  <Gekz> much more appropriate for me
10:39:24  <Doorslammer> Excuse me, Im off on a murdering spree now
10:39:25  <babyottd> pillock, more like
10:39:27  <babyottd> working on it
10:39:40  <roboboy> does the installer directly store the ttd install dir in a variable and use the variable or does it use the location from the registry directly or some other way?
10:39:41  <Gekz> what's with the spamming bot.
10:39:43  <TrueBrain> pillock? Where did he learn that word?
10:39:44  <babyottd> Gekz is a bot
10:39:44  <Gekz> it sounds like a russian
10:39:51  <Doorslammer> Sorry
10:40:00  <Celestar> bah
10:40:01  <Doorslammer> Berk berk berk
10:40:03  <Gekz> babyottd, you make me hate russians
10:40:05  <Gekz> like a fox
10:40:08  <Celestar> I wish I had my upgrade to 16MBit finally :S
10:40:13  <Celestar> 2MBit sucks for work
10:40:14  <Brianetta> Doorslammer is a berk
10:40:14  <babyottd> best to ignore him for a bit
10:40:14  <babyottd> berk
10:40:17  <Rubidium> babyottd: is one of your building blocks desoxyribonucleic acid?
10:40:23  <babyottd> replacement for the stupid people joining here all
10:40:26  <petern> Celestar... isn't XFS a journalling filesystem?
10:40:33  <Celestar> petern: yes.
10:40:34  <TrueBrain> @op
10:40:34  <Gekz> petern: XFS is a toy.
10:40:36  *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek
10:40:37  * Doorslammer shoves a Pravda up babyottd's...
10:40:39  *** mode/#openttd [+q babyottd!] by TrueBrain
10:40:46  <Gekz> that'll learn the bot
10:40:47  <Gekz> muaha
10:40:47  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: we unmute it after an hour or so ;)
10:40:48  <petern> And this, isn't "device removed" supposed to be......
10:40:57  <petern> What the fuck
10:40:57  <Brianetta> TrueBrain: unmte it for lolz
10:40:57  <Celestar> petern: but it requires some manual intervention when unplugging the device ...
10:41:00  <Brianetta> quick
10:41:04  <Gekz> Brianetta: it's Lulz
10:41:09  *** mode/#openttd [-q babyottd!] by TrueBrain
10:41:09  <Brianetta> !shutup
10:41:17  <Doorslammer> ---
10:41:18  <Brianetta> !shutup
10:41:23  <Doorslammer> ---
10:41:26  <Celestar> Gekz: I think it's a seagate
10:41:29  <Celestar> 120GB 2.5"
10:41:30  <Brianetta> There
10:41:30  <babyottd> i guess he doesn't cry
10:41:35  <TrueBrain> @kick Doorslammer repeating yourself, aren't we?
10:41:35  *** Doorslammer was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [repeating yourself, aren't we?]
10:41:38  <Brianetta> He's ignoring me
10:41:38  <babyottd> excuse me, im off on a murdering spree now
10:41:46  <babyottd> maybe we should start about bogies, catenaries and such
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10:41:47  <Gekz> lolol
10:41:47  <Brianetta> !shutup
10:41:52  <Doorslammer> Hilarious
10:41:54  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: I like it chatting like that, just I wonder what it chats after an hour ;)
10:42:01  <Brianetta> OK
10:42:05  <Brianetta> I'm going to screen him
10:42:05  <babyottd> to feed him
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10:42:07  <TrueBrain> WTF?! 'murdering spree' :s
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10:42:19  <Gekz> it's already on a killing spree
10:42:20  <Gekz> that didnt take long
10:42:26  <Doorslammer> Cool
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10:42:59  <Doorslammer> I heartily approve, should be a laugh anyhow seeing a murderous robot in Russia in the press tomorrow
10:42:59  <Brianetta> He's in mute mode
10:43:06  <Brianetta> but he's listening to us
10:43:10  <TrueBrain> @deop
10:43:14  *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek
10:43:19  <TrueBrain> tnx Brianetta :) Turn it back on in an hour or so :p
10:43:39  <Brianetta> He's supposed to respond to my commands, too, but apparently is a rebellious bastard
10:43:58  <Doorslammer> So what dumb purpose is that 'thing' supposed to serve?
10:44:20  <TrueBrain> so he is learning ;)
10:44:30  <TrueBrain> Doorslammer: we wonder the same about you
10:44:38  <Brianetta> [10:46] <Rubidium> hmm... so... roboboy is an AI trying to pretend to be a human: Turing test failed
10:44:48  <Doorslammer> TrueBrain:  That's because its true...
10:44:59  <Brianetta> We're hoping that babyottd will seem more human than roboboy
10:45:19  <Doorslammer> Its an annoying little prick
10:45:24  <Doorslammer> Seems perfectly fine
10:45:48  <TrueBrain> who votes for kban?
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10:46:18  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: would that be for someone in my ignore list or not?
10:46:40  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: most likely ;)
10:46:48  <TrueBrain> but I wonder if you have a whitelist ;)
10:47:12  <Rubidium> yup
10:47:26  <Rubidium> but as many white lists, it's completely white
10:50:06  <Brianetta> !save
10:50:06  <babyottd> Dictionary saved
10:50:40  <Brianetta> I might stick a babysarah in with my standard server's IRC bridge
10:50:51  <Brianetta> that'd be amusing
10:51:02  <Brianetta> random idiotic chat included as standard, even for solo play.
10:51:27  <Doorslammer> Could just invite Jolteon instead
10:53:36  <Brianetta> !quit
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10:54:56  <TrueBrain> maybe you should feed it the logs of DorpsGek :p
10:55:10  <Brianetta> I was about to feed it some of mine
10:55:28  <Brianetta> feeding logs is tricky - you need to strip names and IRC stuff
10:56:33  <Brianetta> Hmm, I have a few megs
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11:01:53  <Celestar> bridges for ships are summin cool
11:03:25  <Brianetta> I'm going to feed babyottd some big logs, but as a warning, PyBorgs aren't as fun when they're mature
11:03:34  <Brianetta> I'll back him up first
11:05:50  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: why not?
11:08:19  <A_Person> Boohaa, time for moar playingz!
11:08:51  <TrueBrain> thank you for that contribution
11:08:59  * Doorslammer despairs of internet spelling
11:09:15  <A_Person> "despairs of"? hmm
11:09:23  <A_Person> I only do that for fun :/
11:09:31  <A_Person> Mutilating words like that
11:09:47  <Doorslammer> Mutilating the key word of course
11:10:23  <A_Person> But it's true, I've been asleep all night, it's time to make up for all the lost play time!
11:12:07  <Celestar> :o
11:12:20  <Celestar> OpenFOAM default installation are 80000 files and 5000 folders
11:12:32  <A_Person> Woah, foamy!
11:12:48  <Doorslammer> Oh god
11:12:49  <TrueBrain> woah, annoying
11:13:19  <Celestar> KDE takes longer to create the folders on a copy process than to actually transfer the files :P
11:13:45  <Celestar> heh ok .. the default installation includes the source tree
11:14:06  <A_Person> Well, it's often like that, foam creates quickly, but try moving it to someplace else! :P
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11:17:07  <Celestar> FINALLY they finished the HDD upgrade on the cluster
11:17:21  <Celestar> lx32s3:/lproject        56T   6.5T    46T  13% /lustre_projects
11:17:24  <Celestar> good :D
11:17:30  * Celestar goes generating data
11:17:36  <TrueBrain> lol :)
11:17:45  <A_Person> Blah, I should write an ingame chronology for the
11:17:50  <A_Person> looking stuff up takes so long
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11:20:16  <A_Person> Seems there's no point in rolling back the clock below 1925, there won't be any locos to work with!
11:20:38  <Celestar> bah
11:20:44  * Brianetta has jacked babyottd into the learning machine, Matrix-style
11:20:58  <Celestar> why is the ONLY thing that regularly crashes on my PC the screen-saver-password-prompt?!
11:21:06  <TrueBrain> LOL :)
11:21:11  <Celestar> thus disallowing me to re-access my X session
11:22:20  <Brianetta>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S PU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
11:22:21  <Brianetta>  9703 brian     20   0  116m 106m 1636 R 98.7 21.1   1:51.64 python
11:22:28  <Brianetta> ouchies (:
11:22:53  <Celestar> it's annoying having to log in by going to a tty, logging in as root, killing the screensaver, logging out and going back to the X session
11:23:02  <Celestar> ouch Brianetta
11:23:09  <Brianetta> Celestar: Re-program your power button (:
11:23:17  <Brianetta> Press powere, kill screensaver
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11:23:33  <Celestar> Brianetta: hm ... acpi button events should actually allow this
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11:23:39  <Brianetta> They do
11:23:46  <Brianetta> My power buttons do all sorts of things
11:23:49  <Celestar> ..
11:23:52  <Celestar> I should actually do some work
11:23:55  <Brianetta> One restarts KDM if you're not logged in
11:23:59  <Brianetta> one just plays a sound
11:24:29  <Celestar> yeah I had that on my desktop
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11:24:49  <planetmaker> [13:20]	<A_Person>	Seems there's no point in rolling back the clock below 1925, there won't be any locos to work with! <--- use another train set.
11:24:53  <planetmaker> like 2cc IIRC
11:24:59  <Brianetta> or any of Pikka's
11:25:01  <Celestar> it played a recorded messages "Don't hit the power button, use the logout system instead, dumbass"
11:25:10  <planetmaker> and a road vehilce set like egrvs(?)
11:25:20  <Celestar> egrtvs?
11:25:26  <Celestar> egrvts?
11:25:28  <Brianetta> My server's power button beeps, then after five seconds, dous a double-beep
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11:25:37  <Celestar> some stupid abbrvtn
11:25:42  <Brianetta> If you press it a second time before the double-beep it gracefully powers off
11:25:52  <planetmaker> Celestar: yeah, something like that. extended generic road vehilce set or something alike.
11:25:58  <Brianetta> This was because my wife managed to power it off with her knee at least once whilst leaning past it
11:26:40  <Brianetta> extended generic road vehicle and tram set, I think
11:27:15  <Celestar> Brianetta: I usually disconnect the power button physically on such boxes.
11:27:38  <Brianetta> Celestar: I like to be able to shut it down, though
11:27:40  <Brianetta> It's headless
11:27:49  <Brianetta> and if I need to move it, I power it off
11:28:01  <Celestar> Brianetta: yeah me too. hence a PSU with a power off button
11:28:07  <Celestar> switch rather
11:28:08  <Brianetta> enotgraceful
11:28:19  <Celestar> graceful == shutdown -h now
11:28:27  <Brianetta> that's what my power button runs
11:28:31  <Brianetta> the second time you press it
11:31:05  * Brianetta is feeding in 38MB of distilled IRC log
11:31:14  <Brianetta> THey began as nearly 100MB of regular logs
11:31:34  <Brianetta> it's amazing how they shrink when you remove timestamps, nicks, join/part/kick etc
11:32:34  <Celestar> why is my dyndns failing :S
11:32:48  <Brianetta> It's not your day.
11:33:36  *** M4rk is now known as Mark
11:35:54  <Brianetta> Once I put a PyBorg into a French-speaking channel
11:36:00  <Brianetta> It learned French (:
11:36:05  <Celestar> hehe
11:36:10  <Brianetta> unfortunately there was a channel invasion
11:36:18  <Brianetta> and it really rapidly picked up some really bad language
11:36:23  <Brianetta> and got kicked with thte invaders
11:36:52  <A_Person> You think it's possible to maintain the maximum company preformance rating in the game?
11:37:02  <Celestar> pyborg can learn a whole language? :P
11:37:12  <Brianetta> A_Person: Yes.
11:37:22  * A_Person wonders wth te min and max income ratings are derived from
11:37:34  <Brianetta> Celestar: In as much as it can learn any language, yes
11:37:48  <Brianetta> A_Person: Your vehicles
11:38:05  <Brianetta> You get a score for any vehicle having > max
11:38:06  <A_Person> versus a theoretical max and min?
11:38:15  <Brianetta> and for every vehicle having > min
11:38:31  <Brianetta> important words are any and every
11:38:47  <Brianetta> so
11:38:54  <Brianetta> if any vehicle is > max, you get a score
11:39:06  <Brianetta> if every vehicle is > min, you get a second score
11:39:11  <A_Person> Hmm
11:39:17  <A_Person> Right, well, I should spare my little brain of that difficult magic
11:39:20  <Brianetta> I think it's 50 apiece
11:39:44  <A_Person> linked stations count as one, right?
11:39:51  <Brianetta> no
11:39:55  <Brianetta> not for station count
11:40:29  <A_Person> Hmm, so for manipulating station score one could build larger stations out of one station tiles? ;P
11:40:33  <Brianetta> basically it counts one station for every symbol in the name bars
11:40:38  <Brianetta> not tiles
11:40:43  <Brianetta> symbols in name bars
11:40:50  <Brianetta> train, bus, boat, lorry
11:40:52  <A_Person> ah, that. Makes sense
11:41:08  <A_Person> two linked bus-stops=one bus+truck stop=2
11:41:20  <Brianetta> two linked bus stops = 1
11:41:30  <Brianetta> bus stop linked with lorry stop = 2
11:41:55  <Brianetta> there's only one symbol in the name bar of a station that only accepts buses
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12:07:01  <Celestar> why does my stupid repeater always lose connection to the base station :S
12:07:17  <Rubidium> 'cause it's stupid?
12:07:35  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14463 /trunk/src/ (oldpool.h station_func.h): -Fix [FS#2348]: small possible chance of desync due to sorting on pointer instead of by (station) index (PhilSophus)
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12:08:05  <Forked> greetings
12:08:23  <Celestar> hm.
12:09:11  <Forked> or not? =p
12:09:35  <Celestar> I've two boxes. A and B. I want to backup data from A on B. To save bandwidth, I'd like to do that incrementally, and the only possible connection I have is ssh. can I somehow tunnel rsync through ssh?
12:09:40  <Celestar> \o Forked
12:09:55  <Rubidium> Celestar: yes you can
12:10:05  <Celestar> Rubidium: can you point me to docs on how to do this?
12:10:28  <Rubidium>
12:11:31  <Brianetta> Celestar: Easily.
12:11:39  <Brianetta> rsync -essh
12:12:04  <Celestar> thanks Brianetta
12:12:25  <Brianetta> rsync -essh user@a:needsbackup/ ./backup/
12:12:29  <Brianetta> or vice versa
12:13:17  <Brianetta> you just need ssh and an installation of rsync
12:13:21  <Brianetta> no rsync server required
12:15:26  <Celestar> heh. -r might be helpful as well :P
12:16:16  <Brianetta> or -d
12:16:29  <Brianetta> depending how recursive you're feeling
12:16:43  <Brianetta> but I was assuming you know the rest of rsync
12:16:52  <Brianetta> I was just outlining the ssh tunneling part
12:17:16  <Ammler> i would add -az
12:17:28  <Brianetta> I wouldn't
12:17:47  <Celestar> Brianetta: I am, but I just basically copied your line blindly :P
12:17:49  <Ammler> no a no z or no both :-)
12:18:28  <Celestar> Ammler: I'm using -zvv most of the time anyway (=
12:18:37  <Brianetta> no z
12:18:45  <Brianetta> but I always use -c
12:19:07  <Celestar> what's wrong with -z?
12:19:12  <Brianetta> increases load
12:19:20  <Celestar> yeah
12:19:23  <Brianetta> Often, I also break up -a
12:19:24  <Celestar> but I have a thin pipe
12:19:44  <Brianetta> since -a is an alias for -luiegtpiuerwguirgv
12:19:51  <Ammler> if the files are big, -P could nice too.
12:19:58  <Ammler> be
12:20:25  <Brianetta> It's only goof for interactive jobbies
12:20:31  <Brianetta> not good for logging
12:20:32  <Celestar> ROFL
12:20:37  <Celestar> I'm not logging
12:20:42  <Celestar> I'm doing in interactively
12:20:50  <Celestar> can't cron this.
12:21:05  <Brianetta> then bung on -vv --stats --progress (:
12:21:11  <Celestar> heh
12:22:09  <Celestar> opening connection using ssh -l vici otherbox rsync --server -vvlogDtprcz --partial . /media/disk/caj_dns/.
12:22:12  <Celestar> hm (=
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12:22:47  <Celestar> sounds good (=
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12:24:19  <Celestar> -c helps a LOT
12:24:48  <Celestar> since these are all ASCII files
12:26:29  <Ammler> hmm, is there a difference to rsync -essh ?
12:26:53  <Celestar> Ammler: nope, that's what rsync -essh invokes
12:28:13  <Brianetta> Celestar: -c works on binary files, too
12:28:22  <Brianetta> it's especially good on our 16GB database file
12:28:27  <TrueBrain> how can I make 'vim' remember where I last edited a file? :(
12:28:44  <Brianetta> vim .vimrc
12:30:01  <TrueBrain> not really helping yet Brianetta :p
12:30:02  <Ammler> hmm, vim saves them on ~/.viminfo
12:30:23  <Celestar> sent 80354037 bytes  received 252 bytes  213424.41 bytes/sec
12:30:23  <Celestar> total size is 399213115  speedup is 4.97
12:30:27  <Celestar> nice :)
12:30:48  <Celestar> factor 5 compression (=
12:31:05  <TrueBrain> in Gentoo, 'vim' jumps to my last line of edit when I open a file .. in Debian it doesn't
12:31:09  <TrueBrain> and it annoys the hell out of me
12:32:20  <Ammler>  such things makes the distro :-)
12:33:03  <Celestar> yes
12:35:42  <Brianetta> I wouldn't know which distros affect vim
12:35:54  <Brianetta> since I have had the same .vimrc for over a decade
12:36:01  <Celestar> TrueBrain:
12:36:14  <Ammler> Brianetta: default settings
12:36:29  <Brianetta> Ammler: Yes, I understand the concept.
12:36:52  <TrueBrain> haha, tnx, Celestar, I was looking for a single line thingy, but .. clearly it isn't :p
12:37:01  <Celestar> TrueBrain: no it's not :(
12:37:26  <Brianetta> An hour and ten minutes later, and babyottd is still slurping in the logs
12:37:37  <Celestar> ha
12:37:37  <Ammler> Brianetta: my distro doesn't need .vimrc.
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12:37:56  <Brianetta> Ammler: Like I said; I *wouldn't know*
12:38:03  <Brianetta> I've had this .vimrc for years
12:38:08  <Celestar> TrueBrain: because you want this stuff for a number of files to remember
12:38:12  <Brianetta> My home directory is venerable and ancient
12:38:49  <Brianetta> -rw-r--r--  1 brian users         514 1999-09-19 17:27 wave
12:38:49  <Brianetta> My oldest file
12:38:53  <Brianetta> by date alone
12:38:58  <Brianetta> although it actually dates back to 1994
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12:39:01  <Brianetta> when I made it
12:39:06  <Celestar> ok I'm off a bit
12:39:13  <Celestar> cu laterz :P
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12:40:24  <TrueBrain> I wonder why Gentoo does it by default, while it is not explicit in any configure file I can find ..
12:41:14  <Ammler> TrueBrain: no /etc/vimrc ?
13:05:28  <A_Person> Blah, the first locomotive should be invented on the 1st of january 1925, not some random time during the year :C
13:06:05  <Brianetta> babyottd will be too slow once he's finished learning )-:
13:08:00  <TrueBrain> comp.y:84: error: no matching function for call to ?std::list<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > >::insert(std::string&)?
13:08:00  <TrueBrain> /usr/include/c++/4.3/bits/list.tcc:99: note: candidates are: typename std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::iterator std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::insert(std::_List_iterator<_Tp>, const _Tp&) [with _Tp = std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, _Alloc = std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >]
13:08:00  <TrueBrain> /usr/include/c++/4.3/bits/stl_list.h:961: note:                 void std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::insert(std::_List_iterator<_Tp>, size_t, const _Tp&) [with _Tp = std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, _Alloc = std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >]
13:08:02  <TrueBrain> I love GCC :(
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13:10:57  <Brianetta> babyottd is still the un-learned one
13:11:21  <Brianetta> there's another instance inhaling logs
13:11:23  <Brianetta> !wakeup
13:11:48  <Brianetta> hey there babyottd
13:11:48  <babyottd> there's listening to us
13:12:24  <ln> babyottd: English Only.
13:12:26  <babyottd> write : p
13:12:48  <Brianetta> babyottd, don't take the piss
13:12:48  <babyottd> i don't cry
13:12:55  * Brianetta sighs
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13:14:00  <Doorslammer> Its DXTR :O
13:14:11  <Brianetta> its who?
13:14:26  <Doorslammer> Fixed it yet?
13:14:29  <babyottd> filesystem ?
13:14:52  <Doorslammer> Why not
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13:19:56  <dih> heh - connected from
13:20:02  <dih> :-P
13:20:04  <Brianetta> yes
13:20:20  <dih> for a second i thought via the webinterface
13:20:47  <dih> but that would have ad a different ~username@
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13:22:36  <Belugas> [09:04] <A_Person> Blah, the first locomotive should be invented on the 1st of january 1925, not some random time during the year :C  <--- you are running all the fun...
13:22:36  <Belugas> as if inventions are waiting for the first day of the year to be launched :P
13:22:36  <Belugas> MORE REALISM ... NO, GIVE US LESS... ho... just when it won't bother me please...
13:22:36  <Belugas> prrrrrt
13:22:36  <Doorslammer> Oh, apparently not
13:22:36  <Doorslammer> Carry on
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13:27:18  <Doorslammer> prrrrrt?
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13:32:28  <Gekz>
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13:43:39  <Belugas> yup. prrrrrrrt
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13:55:14  <TrueBrain> prrrrrrrrrt!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111oneoneone
13:57:35  <Belugas> enoenoeno00000000000000000?????????trrrrrrrrip
13:58:07  * TrueBrain puts Belugas on a XTC free diet
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14:00:23  * Belugas cries!
14:10:44  <ccfreak2k> Belugas, with that logic, why not have maglev trains in 1900 too?
14:13:41  <A_Person> It just made me want to skip the year, didn't start the game in that year to wait for the train, but use it
14:15:30  * Brianetta likes realism
14:15:35  * Brianetta is the Antilugas
14:15:43  <A_Person> lungas?
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14:31:27  <A_Person> Blah, I feel like a retard
14:31:39  <Gekz> good.
14:32:11  <A_Person> I have no idea how to best make my 4 train station circle to cover 4 quarters of a small town
14:32:57  <Gekz> by smashing the city
14:33:06  <A_Person> no the city isn't in the way
14:33:17  * A_Person slaps himself and just unleashes one train onto the preliminary track
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14:36:54  <A_Person> Uhh, why can't I build rail carriages
14:36:58  * A_Person goes mad
14:37:29  <Belugas> ccfreak2k, why not? why does it have to be linked to our realism??  It's just a mean of transportation, it's just a game, it's not a simulator
14:38:01  <Sacro> Belugas: lies
14:38:06  <Sacro> it should be a simulator
14:38:24  <planetmaker> I want a Scotty-like transporter ;)
14:38:32  <Belugas> nope.  it should not be. it was not built with that in mind
14:38:33  <Gekz> OpenTSD
14:38:40  <A_Person> transporters are lame and boring
14:38:56  <A_Person> TSD?
14:39:08  <Belugas> and if you insist on it been a simulator, i'll start coding the constuction of bridges based on real life time
14:39:13  <Belugas> same as the rest
14:39:19  <Belugas> now you will be really happy!
14:39:24  <Gekz> Belugas: do it
14:39:31  <Gekz> that would be incredibly awesome
14:39:38  <Belugas> and don't expcet your trains to be built on a press of a button too!
14:39:43  <Gekz> and show the trucks driving the materials there
14:39:51  <planetmaker> construction time = length^2 * basetime * material_modificator
14:40:13  <Gekz> length^2?
14:40:15  <Gekz> wtf random number
14:40:38  <A_Person> that's not random, that's squared!
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14:40:48  <planetmaker> I think it takes considerably more effort to build a 1km bridge than a 500m than a 10m bridge.
14:41:37  <planetmaker> A_Person: I think Gekz got that part :). But "2" is indeed a magic number :P
14:41:56  <planetmaker> it's the only really odd prime ;)
14:42:14  <Gekz> ._.
14:42:14  <A_Person> square is always nicer than cube, or hypercube
14:42:20  <vvv444> gm, are any of the developers online? I have a question about YAPF implementation.
14:42:20  <A_Person> :D
14:42:27  <Eddi|zuHause2> i think starting with a certain length, the cost scales linearly
14:42:47  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause2: cost: yes. Construction time: not necessarily.
14:43:09  <Eddi|zuHause2> "time" is just a version of "cost"
14:43:21  <Eddi|zuHause2> i mean it doesn't make a significant difference if you build 30 or 50 segments
14:43:35  <planetmaker> time = money. money = sqrt(evil). Deduce the rest?
14:43:35  <A_Person> not if your game measures them separately...
14:43:54  <A_Person> simulator I meant
14:44:35  <A_Person> Oh yeah, I forgot I still have a problem to fix
14:45:01  <A_Person> I finally could buy me a locomotive in nov 1925, but I can't build carriages
14:45:03  * A_Person fumes
14:45:25  * planetmaker hands over a CO2 fire extinguisher.
14:45:35  <Vikthor> planetmaker: actually I that for short lenghts it's the same, because some works are independent on lenght of bridge
14:45:37  * A_Person skips a year to save himself the trouble
14:45:42  <Vikthor> *I think
14:46:06  <Eddi|zuHause2> A_Person: the game is designed to start in 1950, not in 1925... if you want to start early, use a NewGRF set
14:46:09  <planetmaker> Vikthor: yes :) , I concur.
14:46:48  <A_Person> it works perfecto when starting at 1926, I just was stupid enough to start at '25
14:47:19  <A_Person> oh, erm, now I'm in november, well, by the end of '26 I get all the railcars I need
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14:47:51  <A_Person> ...except the passenger car...
14:48:06  <Eddi|zuHause2> A_Person: introduction years are randomised within a window of ~2 years
14:48:30  <A_Person> Hrm, I'll have to brand that into my brain then
14:48:45  <A_Person> '27 it is then
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14:58:01  <Belugas> vvv444 : you'd have more luck asking your question then jsut saying "I've got one".  But i fear i will not be able to answer you.  Others might be, tough..
14:58:24  <Belugas> it's a bit like saying "Hey guys, I've got a cup of coffee on my desk"
14:58:30  <Belugas> ho yeah? no kidding...
14:58:48  <Brianetta> shit
14:58:58  <Brianetta> I wish *I* had a cup of coffee on my desk.  )-:
15:00:39  <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't like coffee
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15:01:10  <Belugas> i cannot exist without coffee!
15:01:31  <Belugas> Brianetta, it's a vital tool @work :)
15:01:47  <planetmaker> tea is sufficient :)
15:01:55  <planetmaker> indeed far more appreciated here :)
15:02:13  <Brianetta> I did have a cup of tea
15:02:19  <Brianetta> but i eated it
15:02:23  <Doorslammer>  <--- Am I really doing my sprites wrong?
15:02:27  <planetmaker> o_O :)
15:02:28  <Doorslammer> I hate scale issues here
15:02:40  <Doorslammer> Dont eat your tea
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15:02:45  <Doorslammer> I mean...
15:02:49  <Doorslammer> Oh I dunno
15:03:11  <Brianetta> Doorslammer: I dunno; I don't have time for Blunck's opinions at the moment.
15:03:28  <Doorslammer> Cool, 1-0 so far :P
15:03:54  <Doorslammer> Dont care if that was a yes or no, feels like a goal scored :P
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15:04:02  <Brianetta> Hey, I notice the Tyne & Wear Metros at the left (:
15:04:21  <Brianetta> There's exactly one set in "heritage" Metro livery
15:04:31  <Brianetta> It's coupled to a regular unit, just like you have depicted
15:04:53  <Doorslammer> Ah, the old 4001 :)
15:05:00  <Brianetta> Less of the old
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15:05:11  <Brianetta> It was painted back that way, giving it one o fthe more recent coats of paint
15:05:20  <Doorslammer> Only one in cadmium yellow and white now :(
15:05:29  <Doorslammer> I loved that colours
15:05:45  <Brianetta> My boss is Paul Williams.  Before he worked here, he was the technical manager for Nexus Metro.
15:05:53  <Doorslammer> Glad they wont make trams as a replacement now
15:05:55  <Brianetta> He was there until 2002 or so
15:06:00  <Doorslammer> Lovely work :)
15:06:02  <vvv444> Belugas: I just don't know what's better, ask it here or write it by mail to one of the developers.
15:06:09  <Brianetta> He's a mine of useless information
15:06:21  <Doorslammer> Epic success
15:06:23  <Brianetta> vvv444: Ask here or on the dev forum
15:06:32  * Brianetta rides the Metro daily
15:06:40  <Doorslammer> Only one problem, I dont know if the coder is still at work on them :S
15:06:52  <Doorslammer> I did too when I was last there
15:06:53  <vvv444> The questions is about YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange function. Why does it has the second parameter? I think it has no reason for and just makes the code more complicated at lots of places.
15:07:07  <Brianetta> It's kind of depressing to see all the evidence of axed lines around here
15:07:13  <Brianetta> The Metro can act as a showcase for them
15:07:19  <Brianetta> especially on the way to Sunderland
15:07:19  <vvv444> Or maybe I just don't understand something...
15:07:53  <Brianetta> You should probably ask on the YAPF thread in the dev forum
15:07:54  <Doorslammer> Oh yes, amazing how many there are there
15:08:49  <vvv444> I thought sending the question to KUDr, he is the auther.
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15:08:58  <Brianetta> Good luck with that
15:09:16  <vvv444> tnx
15:09:18  <Eddi|zuHause2> @seen KUDr
15:09:18  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause2: KUDr was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 0 days, 22 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <KUDr> r
15:09:26  <Brianetta> If you want answers, you'd be best addressing your questions to the largest audience
15:09:47  <Brianetta> KUDr wrote it, but he's not the only developer who really knows about it
15:10:14  <vvv444> Hmm, ok, I'll write it at the forum.
15:10:39  * Doorslammer check's on dev|ant's profile
15:11:04  <Brianetta> "Yours doesnÂŽt look much better. Alone their height is just silly, except theyÂŽre all bi-levels ..."
15:11:06  <Doorslammer> October 5th last visit, so he's still around it seems
15:11:08  <Brianetta> Bi-levels?
15:11:15  <Brianetta> No such animal on this island.
15:11:22  <Doorslammer> I think he refers to them daft German coaches
15:11:33  <Doorslammer> Its a scale issue again
15:11:34  <Eddi|zuHause2> void YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange(TileIndex tile, Track track); <- you mean that function? there can be two tracks on a tile which are not connected
15:11:55  <Brianetta> So you work to a different scale to him.  Big deal.  Pikka's UKRS is to a larger scale than his NARS.
15:12:15  <Brianetta> If you run them together, the American trains are all tiny compared to the UK ones, when they should be huge.
15:12:20  <vvv444> If you see the implementation, you see that now it doesn't use any parameters at all.
15:12:38  <Doorslammer> True
15:13:07  <Doorslammer> But if I run up to him and kick him in the bollocks ala internet forum stylee, I get in a little trouble :P
15:13:23  <Doorslammer> So I need a subtle reply to tell him to 'get knotted'
15:13:46  * Doorslammer is the 'anti-Worley' - I'm a good little boy ;)
15:13:49  <Brianetta> "We're all welcome to our opinions, no matter how lame they are."
15:13:53  <Eddi|zuHause2> no, i have not looked at yapf implementation
15:14:07  <vvv444> Eddi: I think that if any algorithm will use the parameters in the future, it will be enough for it to have the  tile index.
15:14:12  <Eddi|zuHause2> but what exactly is your intention?
15:14:33  <Eddi|zuHause2> why change it for changes' sake?
15:14:57  <Doorslammer> I'll copy that, word for word :P
15:15:42  <vvv444> Eddi: this single parameter adds houndreds of code lines at different places. It complicates the code for no reason.
15:16:03  <vvv444> Eddi: Why do something if you don't use it at all?
15:17:04  * Doorslammer is rather proud of this new found tact and delicacy
15:17:05  <vvv444> Eddi: Besides, even if you write algorithm that uses the tile index, how will it use the track parameter? It doesn't say if you removed or added track.
15:17:24  <Eddi|zuHause2> ah, so you want to improve the code that calls the function... why don't you tell that in the first place?
15:17:59  <Belugas> reasons i can think of: Code is unfinished, Params is required elsewhere, Code has evolved and is not cleaned up
15:18:39  <Belugas> vvv444, have you tried to remove the param and the extra code?
15:19:31  <A_Person> Note to self: figure out algorithm for determining when it's more efficient to use a short train station and when a long one
15:20:01  <vvv444> Belugas: I'm working on it, I 'greped' the whole trunk and found no YapfNotifyTrackLayoutChange implementation except for one that doesn't use the params.
15:20:34  <Eddi|zuHause2> A_Person: that algorithim is trivial, station length = max(train length)
15:20:57  <vvv444> The story started from me trying to implement a simple patch. Then seeing that there are lots of code that can be refactored. Started doing that. Then bumped to this one.
15:22:33  <Belugas> classical pattern ^_^
15:22:46  <A_Person> thought there was a speed limit in stations
15:23:08  <vvv444> Yeah. I'm quite crazy on clean code :)
15:23:59  <Eddi|zuHause2> A_Person: only when the train attempts to stop, afaik
15:24:11  <A_Person> crap, I'm losing passengers by using one train per 3 stations, have to build more trains so they don't run off
15:25:21  <vvv444> Belugas: btw, where should I submit a patch if I come with something I think good enough for commiting? (At least I'll be happy for feedback)
15:25:22  <A_Person> also, that algorithm doesn't help when the train length limit is turned off
15:26:06  <Belugas> vvv444, or forums, in the devellopemnt section
15:26:47  <vvv444> tnx
15:30:08  <Belugas> no prob and good luck :)
15:30:16  <Belugas> oh... mostly, have fun!
15:32:22  <vvv444> sure :)
15:33:15  <Eddi|zuHause2> A_Person: maximum length of all currently (and in reasonable future) existing trains in your network
15:34:09  <A_Person> Well, building very long train stations can be rather tricky
15:34:32  <A_Person> difficult predict, especially when I'd like to experiment with "pipelines" made out of trains
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15:47:26  <planetmaker> hm... I don't need any predictor in the process of building train stations. All info I need to know is what kind of things can be delivered to the station and what kind of things are accepted by it. And that's shown....
15:50:48  <Eddi|zuHause2> how many trains visit the station simultaneously, that is the number i build my stations with
15:51:26  <Eddi|zuHause2> have i mentioned that i need shunting yet?
15:51:36  <A_Person> Not a predictor, but an algorithm for my braincomputerz
15:51:56  <A_Person> do you need shunting yet?
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15:53:19  <planetmaker> [17:51]	<Eddi|zuHause2>	have i mentioned that i need shunting yet? <-- haven't heard you mention that for a long time :)
15:53:41  <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, at least 3 days ;)
15:53:52  <A_Person> I'll give up on trying to figure out what you meant by that :/
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15:55:25  <Eddi|zuHause2> parsing sentences for non-germans? base sentence = "have i mentioned (...) yet" where (...) is a minor sentence "i need shunting" with the conjunction "that"
15:55:55  <planetmaker> :D
15:56:09  <Doorslammer> Night all, more adventures tomorrow
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15:56:50  <A_Person> Yes but I have no idea wether you do or don't
15:57:00  <A_Person> But that's english for meh
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15:58:55  <Bjarni> hello human beings
15:59:01  <A_Person> gruh, I forgot to test what weight the weak train can pull at top speed :/
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16:00:34  <Vikthor> Bjarni: You are inpolite to the bots :D Good afternoon to you
16:00:49  <Bjarni> yeah
16:00:56  <Bjarni> and to Sacro too :P
16:01:03  <SmatZ> Bjarni!
16:01:15  <SmatZ> welcome
16:01:45  <Bjarni> officially I have a week of vacation this week
16:02:13  <Bjarni> so far I have been at least twice as long at uni than on a normal week >_<
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16:05:56  <Bjarni> it goes without saying that right now I'm working on an assignment as well
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16:35:26  <Belugas> ho boy...
16:35:28  <Belugas>
16:35:45  <Belugas> count the number of times "realism" is invoked...
16:36:06  <Belugas> makes me nauseous...
16:36:36  <XeryusTC> Belugas: go slap them!
16:36:49  <Belugas> not worth starting a war :(
16:36:58  <Belugas> don't feel like, anyway
16:38:20  * planetmaker hands Belugas a happyness-cookie (GlÃŒckskeks) :)
16:39:17  <Belugas> planetmaker, i can't accept it, TrueBrain is watching over my hourly dose of illegal substances
16:39:20  <Belugas> but thanks
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16:40:26  <planetmaker> :D
16:40:57  <planetmaker> Last time I checked they were freely available in stores :)
16:41:21  <planetmaker> I'm not talking about those cookies :P - though they may make you happy, too ;)
16:41:30  <planetmaker> "those"
16:44:02  <Eddi|zuHause2> traditionally, the translation of "GlÃŒckskeks" is "fortune cookie"
16:44:51  <Belugas> ho..  i see.  i though they were marijuana cookies.
16:45:19  <Belugas> would love to, but there are at least 3 people watchig over me :S
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16:49:36  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: don't feed the animals, please
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16:56:29  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause2: thx for the vocabulary :)
16:56:37  <planetmaker> now you mention it - yes.
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17:24:28  <jonty-comp> so, autoreplace bug is making me desync :(
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17:24:32  <Wolf01> hello
17:25:04  <jonty-comp> I tell my fleet of HSTs to autoreplace with Eurostars on Brianetta's Standard, and instead they all go to the depots constantly, don't autoreplace, and then I desync
17:25:21  <jonty-comp> and as soon as they come out the depot they want to go back in again, so they jam up the station
17:28:20  * Sacro nudges Bjarni
17:28:44  <petern> :D
17:29:05  * Prof_Frink "nudges" Sacro
17:29:06  <petern> obviously autoreplace does not work for them, probably due to a newgrf restriction, or less likely, a lack of money.
17:29:15  <jonty-comp> hmmm
17:29:20  <jonty-comp> well I have plenty of money
17:29:30  <jonty-comp> I can't think of anything that would stop them upgrading
17:29:45  * jonty-comp runs through the usual checklist
17:30:08  <Wolf01> I think I found 2 bugs, the first is that the purchased land can be flooded but I must check if it happen again, the second is the real life, but I don't know if I can post it in flyspray
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17:33:37  <jonty-comp> I guess I'll have to manually upgrade :(
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17:34:27  <Eddi|zuHause2> jonty-comp: do they upgrade if you stop them, and hit the manual replace button in the depot?
17:34:34  <jonty-comp> it seems not
17:34:38  <jonty-comp> I'll check again
17:34:43  <petern> it could be due to r14401
17:34:54  <petern> (Or rather, the bug that r14401 fixes)
17:34:57  <jonty-comp> no
17:35:07  <jonty-comp> bah, desync again
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17:35:52  <petern> Hmm, I guess that was not backported.
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17:36:29  <jonty-comp> Hmm, I give up
17:36:31  <jonty-comp> desync heaven now :p
17:36:44  <petern> Heh, autoreplace does that ;)
17:36:51  <jonty-comp> I turned it off :(
17:37:52  <petern> Hmm...
17:37:58  <petern> I get loads of compile warnings on 0.6.3 :(
17:38:09  <petern> gcc 4.3
17:38:59  <vvv444> Well, generally it
17:39:02  <vvv444> s good
17:39:13  <vvv444> Shows they improved the compiler :)
17:39:20  * petern tests trunk
17:39:50  * SpComb writes some C++ templates
17:40:09  <petern> All gone in trunk :D
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17:41:46  <SmatZ> petern: loads? I get only that "/mnt/svn/openttd/tags/0.6.3/src/misc/dbg_helpers.h: In function 'typename ArrayT<T>::item_t ItemAtT(E, T&, typename ArrayT<T>::item_t) [with E = SignalType, T = const char* [4]]':" (disappeared with YAPP -   maybe because it is not inlined anymore or so)
17:42:20  <petern> Mostly stuff about return values, which Rubidium (I believe) has gone through and fixed for trunk.
17:43:58  <SmatZ> I have 4.3.2, too, and only this warning - did you try to reconfigure?
17:44:34  <SmatZ> amd64 though...
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18:14:53  <petern> SmatZ, fresh checkout, amd64 too.
18:15:08  <petern> (0.6.3, not trunk)
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18:39:24  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14464 /trunk/src/ (22 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: replace (uint)-1 with UINT_MAX (PhilSophus)
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18:49:33  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14465 /trunk/src/command.cpp: -Codechange: minor code style of command.cpp.
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18:52:41  <Belugas> My Bloody Valentine
18:52:43  <Belugas> again
18:52:45  <Belugas> yeah!
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19:13:26  <vvv444> Belugas:
19:14:23  <SmatZ> vvv444: nice patch, too bad KUDr isn't here
19:14:58  <vvv444> well, I'll be glad if you review and give comments on it.
19:15:11  <vvv444> Or if one notifies KUDr
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19:27:21  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14466 /trunk/src/ (10 files in 2 dirs): -Doc: remove some obsolete parameters, fix a few parameter names in comments and add a little more doxygen documentation.
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19:29:31  <LA> Belugas, are you not here?
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19:34:38  <Wolf01> he's busy, work@work I believe
19:35:15  <Belugas> yes, i'm pretty much not here at all
19:36:03  <LA> ok, Belugas, then I won't ask you about one patch..
19:37:17  <Belugas> oh God no please....
19:38:04  <TrueBrain> omg, I just found out why I hated CVS ...
19:38:06  <TrueBrain> I hate CVS!
19:38:26  <frosch123> TrueBrain: try SCCS
19:39:12  <TrueBrain> replace one sucky by an even more sucky one? :p
19:39:30  <LA> Belugas: double 'no' means 'yes'? 'then I wont ask.... '' noplease'
19:39:36  <LA> :D
19:40:52  <LA> meh.. I'll just go to sleep.. before I start making even more confuzed sentences
19:40:56  <LA> good night
19:41:09  <Rexxie> I bid you good night
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19:41:38  <SmatZ> thanks Swallow :)
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19:47:40  <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r14467 /trunk/ (7 files in 2 dirs): -Fix [FS#2350](r14443): use '~' instead of '#' as sed separator, it could be understood in a wrong way by shell
19:49:38  <planetmaker> Thank you very much, SmatZ :) You're my hero of the day :)
19:49:52  <planetmaker> ^Ammler :)
19:50:00  <SmatZ> planetmaker: :-) I hope it won't backfire, or devs will kill me :-P
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19:50:38  <SmatZ> hehe :-)
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19:52:30  <Brianetta> babyottd is *still* learning logs )-:
19:53:18  * Brianetta kills it
19:53:21  <TrueBrain> lol
19:53:25  <Brianetta> Starting to use swap memory
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19:54:02  <TrueBrain> auch
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19:54:10  <TrueBrain> hello babyottd
19:54:25  <Brianetta> !wakeup
19:54:40  <Brianetta> !talk
19:54:48  <TrueBrain> !live!
19:54:50  <Brianetta> hmm
19:54:54  <TrueBrain> !life!
19:54:56  <TrueBrain> !tothe!
19:54:56  <Brianetta> silly bot
19:54:58  <TrueBrain> !fullest!
19:55:00  <TrueBrain> hehe
19:55:01  <TrueBrain> stupid babyottd
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19:55:49  <Brianetta> ok
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19:55:58  <Brianetta> his quit message was wrong
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19:56:21  <Brianetta> boooo
19:56:26  <Brianetta> i go play openttd now
19:56:26  <babyottd> now
19:57:15  <Brianetta> He;s in learning mode
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19:57:21  <Wolf01> megahal?
19:57:26  <Bjarni> hey look
19:57:33  <Bjarni> our baby learned to talk :D
19:57:34  * SmatZ looks
19:57:36  <babyottd> i'd be amusing
19:57:37  <Brianetta> Think like when you flip the read-only switch on a terminator chip
19:57:37  <babyottd> sounds like a fox
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19:58:07  <Brianetta> sacro has quit
19:58:20  <Brianetta> like sacro
19:58:28  <Brianetta> hmm
19:58:47  <Brianetta> trying to get him to talk about sacro isn't easy
19:59:10  <Aali> a pyborg?
19:59:11  <babyottd> word ?
19:59:15  <Brianetta> yes
19:59:33  <Aali> how often does it speak?
19:59:35  <Brianetta> I was in the channel with Tom Morton when the first pyborg (babytom) ever spoke
19:59:35  <babyottd> agree with Brianetta : dunno actually (=
19:59:37  <TrueBrain> Sacro Sacro Sacro Sacro Sacro
19:59:40  <babyottd> sacro railways
19:59:54  <TrueBrain> babyottd: I refuse to agree with Brianetta, you gave me no reason to do so
19:59:56  <Bjarni> sacro railways?
19:59:59  <Bjarni> that sounds scary
19:59:59  <babyottd> that's
20:00:00  * Brianetta was an regular
20:00:08  <Vikthor> that sounds scary
20:00:11  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: see, easy to make him talk about Sacro :)
20:00:19  <Vikthor> I meant the railways
20:00:31  <Brianetta> i'd hate that
20:00:51  <Brianetta> see, easy
20:01:10  <Brianetta> I see
20:01:15  <Brianetta> he's ignoring me
20:01:15  <babyottd> excuse me, im off on a murdering spree now
20:01:26  <Vikthor> :D
20:01:29  <Bjarni> please start with yourself
20:01:34  <Belugas> make him say "gaga" from time to time!
20:01:43  <TrueBrain> Brianetta: where did he get that from?
20:01:47  <babyottd> gaga from time to
20:01:51  * Belugas goes home, it's VOTING time CANADA!
20:01:52  <Rubidium> Belugas: he doesn't cry when you slap him
20:01:54  <Brianetta> TrueBrain: I think it was Celestar
20:01:54  <babyottd> brianetta was an alt
20:01:58  <TrueBrain> ah :)
20:02:01  <babyottd> is learning, )
20:02:48  <Belugas> i never slap my boy!
20:02:55  <Brianetta> Think it's worth sending him onto #tycoon?
20:02:56  <babyottd> to feed him
20:02:59  <babyottd> words ( : because my external hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
20:03:07  <Belugas> bye guys
20:03:09  <Vikthor> meh, "gaga" is lame rather make him sing "Radio Ga Ga"
20:03:12  <Bjarni> bye Belugas
20:03:16  <Brianetta> radio ga ga
20:03:16  <babyottd> sing radio ga
20:03:16  <Vikthor> bye
20:03:16  <babyottd> Bjarni : most likely, )
20:03:21  <babyottd> words ( : see, easy to make him talk about sacro isn't cry
20:03:40  <Brianetta> !words
20:03:40  <babyottd> I know 551 words (1434 contexts, 2.60 per word), 240 lines.
20:04:34  <frosch123> babyottd: just never say "!password" when glx is here
20:04:36  <babyottd> just need
20:05:05  <Rubidium> frosch123: yeah saying !password would be nice
20:05:32  <Brianetta> You're all mean )-:
20:05:32  <babyottd> blame this all on putin you know
20:05:53  <Rubidium> Brianetta: ofcourse we are :)
20:06:13  <Brianetta> Or, as Blunck would say: o/c we are
20:06:13  <babyottd> seen as facetious ?
20:06:14  * frosch123 wonders whether putin can force babyottd to say !password ...
20:06:33  <Brianetta> frosch123: I doubt it
20:06:53  <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe SchÀuble can ;)
20:06:58  <Brianetta> maybe
20:06:58  <babyottd> maybe
20:06:59  <babyottd> maybe some owen rudge references
20:07:00  <Rubidium> babyottd: yes, it's facetious
20:07:05  <babyottd> day pass a turing test, yes
20:07:10  <Bjarni> let's just change this channel so you need voice for other people to talk
20:07:12  <babyottd> to talk
20:07:14  <Vikthor> no, Schaueble could silnece at most
20:07:23  <Vikthor> *silnce it
20:07:25  <Bjarni> that way people will need !password to get voice
20:07:27  <babyottd> just chat !
20:07:28  <babyottd> whether it'll learn the bot
20:07:58  <Rubidium> babyottd: !password is good
20:08:07  <Vikthor> babyottd: say !password
20:08:07  <Brianetta> Rubidium is good
20:08:09  <babyottd> Vikthor !
20:08:21  <Eddi|zuHause2> lmao :p
20:08:23  <babyottd> write : p
20:08:32  <frosch123> : p
20:08:33  <babyottd> users : p
20:08:41  <frosch123> users : p
20:08:43  <babyottd> lmao : p
20:08:45  <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, those damn users...
20:08:54  <Brianetta> var 43
20:08:58  <Brianetta> var 43
20:08:59  <frosch123> babyottd: you are the bot here
20:09:00  <babyottd> is bot
20:09:03  <Brianetta> var 43
20:09:17  <Brianetta> i am a bot
20:09:43  <Brianetta> he's going to pass
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20:10:36  <SmatZ> var 43
20:11:03  <Brianetta> var 43
20:11:15  <Vikthor> What are you trying to achieve?
20:11:16  <glx> <frosch123> babyottd: just never say "!password" when glx is here <-- there are other !things too ;)
20:11:18  <babyottd> you are the bot
20:11:54  <Brianetta> music files
20:12:07  <Brianetta> hmm
20:12:17  <Brianetta> I should look at that MP3 perl script I have on the server
20:12:17  <babyottd> should start about bogies, catenaries and such
20:12:25  <glx> !(download|grf|help|ip|osai|password|playercount|players|revision|version|wiki) and !(links)
20:12:52  <Ammler> osai :-D
20:12:53  <Brianetta> glx: I'm flattered (:
20:12:53  <babyottd> words ( :
20:13:01  <babyottd> Ammler : accidently unplugged the wrong device
20:13:26  <Ammler> he
20:13:47  <vvv444> Can one explain me the joke? babyottd is AI bot?
20:13:50  <babyottd> schÀuble can, )
20:13:55  <vvv444> Ic
20:14:09  <vvv444> Pity I haven't met him :)
20:14:11  <babyottd> to feed him
20:14:17  <frosch123> [22:15] <babyottd> schÀuble can, ) <- he does the best jokes in here :)
20:14:17  <Brianetta> vvv444: I wouldn't worry about him.  He's going to start a facebook account later.
20:14:18  <babyottd> the start of my application was a bad idea
20:14:23  <vvv444> No, to drink a beer with ;)
20:14:27  <TrueBrain> I tend to agree babyottd
20:14:28  <babyottd> can one explain me the joke ? frosch123 : unmte it for lolz
20:14:31  <babyottd> happy with the device being unplugged in
20:14:44  <TrueBrain> you are the joke
20:14:47  <TrueBrain> don't you understand that babyottd?
20:14:52  <babyottd> please don't met him : )
20:14:53  <TrueBrain> unplugged in, haha :)
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20:14:54  <TrueBrain> learn english
20:14:58  <SmatZ> babyottd: the whole device?
20:15:03  <babyottd> happy with the device
20:15:13  <SmatZ> glx: !osai ? :-D
20:15:15  <babyottd> just chat !
20:16:03  <glx> SmatZ: I probably added it because someone typed it
20:16:11  <SmatZ> :)
20:16:12  <babyottd> glx : i have a savings account at icesave ?
20:16:28  <Rubidium> :D
20:16:28  <babyottd> : d
20:16:41  <glx> babyottd: you should now where you have accounts :)
20:16:42  <Vikthor> babyottd: you should know best, then agin I find that higly unprobable :D
20:16:49  <babyottd> should Vikthor be seen as facetious ?
20:17:06  <SmatZ> :D
20:17:10  <glx> this bot is weird
20:17:15  <babyottd> and this, isn't make sense
20:17:34  <SmatZ> reminds me of davidx123
20:17:37  <babyottd> reply of babyottd
20:17:44  <SmatZ> "It may saund like a totaly new agme-but i dont."
20:17:57  <Brianetta> Ah; the secret's out
20:17:57  <babyottd> there's another instance inhaling logs
20:18:05  <Brianetta> that *was* true
20:18:05  <babyottd> needed that
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20:19:34  <Brianetta> SmatZ: He's ignoring you now
20:20:39  <Brianetta> bear in mind that he relays all PMs to me (:
20:20:39  <babyottd> joining here all the music files
20:21:06  <SmatZ> Brianetta: aren't bots forbidden here anyway?
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20:21:14  <Brianetta> frosch123: Really.
20:21:18  <frosch123> :)
20:21:20  <babyottd> oeps, )
20:21:43  <Brianetta> SmatZ: Probably, yeah.  Didn't find any hard evidence either way.
20:21:43  <babyottd> or some other way ?
20:22:08  <SmatZ> @ topic :)
20:22:09  <DorpsGek> SmatZ: topic [<channel>]
20:22:11  <SmatZ> ....
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20:24:00  * SmatZ slaps babyottd
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20:24:18  <Brianetta> he's sulkin
20:24:21  <Brianetta> he's sulking
20:24:23  <glx> SmatZ: DorpsGek just skips whaitespaces ;)
20:24:31  <glx> -a
20:24:34  <SmatZ> :-)
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20:28:42  <petern> whaitespaces?
20:31:05  <glx> -a :)
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20:36:24  <SmatZ> petern: I still don't get any warnings ... with --enable-assert or --disable-assert
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20:47:04  <TrueBrain> babyottd: no more talking you do?
20:47:41  <Brianetta> (:
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20:48:22  <vvv444> Who owns it? Some one called Schauble? Who is he?
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20:48:32  <Vikthor> let's teach him something usefull
20:48:32  <Vikthor> babyottd: RTFM
20:49:00  <Brianetta> rtfm
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20:49:19  <Brianetta> rtfm
20:49:22  <Brianetta> silly thing
20:49:28  <Brianetta> vvv444: Who owns what?
20:49:41  <Vikthor> vvv444: SchÀuble is german minister of interior ;)
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20:50:22  <Brianetta> He's good at shutting people up
20:50:36  <Brianetta> apparently
20:51:18  <vvv444> Oh, ic. I asked about owner of babyottd bot.
20:51:21  <babyottd> same about you
20:51:57  <Eddi|zuHause2> <frosch123> [22:15] <babyottd> schÀuble can, ) <- he does the best jokes in here :) <- i can safely say he got that from me :p
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20:56:18  <Brianetta> Vikthor: Cut that crap out
20:56:18  <babyottd> he get that from ?
20:56:27  <Vikthor> ok sorry
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21:00:23  <Sacro|Laptop> SpComb: No logs for OFTC - #openttd today (/home/terom/public_html/logs/#openttd/2008-10-15) exist!
21:00:24  <Sacro|Laptop> :(
21:00:52  <Brianetta> sacro
21:00:59  <Sacro|Laptop> Brianetta
21:01:03  <babyottd> Sacro|Laptop what is bogey ?
21:01:10  <Brianetta> answer him!
21:01:11  <Sacro|Laptop> babyottd: something that comes out of your nose
21:01:16  <babyottd> says something in latin
21:01:21  <Brianetta> ipse
21:01:25  <Brianetta> ipse something
21:01:25  <babyottd> it something, will
21:01:34  <Brianetta> what was it TrueBrain said?
21:01:40  <Brianetta> ipse cum something
21:01:41  <Sacro|Laptop> romanus eunt domus
21:01:46  <Brianetta> hehe
21:02:09  <Brianetta> it's sacro, babyottd
21:02:16  <Eddi|zuHause2> lorem ipsus?
21:02:20  <Brianetta> sacro is an admin on my server
21:02:20  <babyottd> ( : because my external hdd has 2 usb plugs : (
21:02:28  <Brianetta> ok
21:02:37  <Brianetta> you're still fixated on that USB thing
21:03:18  <Sacro|Laptop> he does seem keen on that
21:03:21  <babyottd> does it speak ?
21:03:35  <Eddi|zuHause2> no
21:04:00  <Brianetta> it speaks of sacro
21:04:00  <babyottd> learned to talk about sacro : )
21:04:05  <Sacro|Laptop> yay!
21:04:07  *** Sacro|Laptop is now known as Sacro
21:04:07  <babyottd> there Sacro|Laptop !
21:04:13  <Sacro> I'm here now
21:04:18  <Brianetta> sacro is here
21:04:21  <Brianetta> come on
21:04:21  <babyottd> back on in an hour or so : p
21:04:24  <Sacro> babyottd: I am Sacro|Laptop
21:04:27  <babyottd> i haven't learn
21:04:32  * Brianetta sighs
21:04:59  <SmatZ> hello babyottd
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21:08:09  <MOG> Kennt sich einer mit diesen RTC alarms im BIOS aus?
21:08:28  <TrueBrain> english, my friend, english!
21:08:59  <Eddi|zuHause2> no
21:09:02  <babyottd> : no, it's lulz
21:09:13  <Eddi|zuHause2> exactly
21:10:22  <MOG> oh, sorry :)
21:10:24  <babyottd> interior, )
21:10:40  <MOG> I get all mixed up with the different channels ;)
21:10:43  <babyottd> to get lcd !
21:10:51  <Sacro> babyottd: lsd?
21:11:02  <MOG> I was asking if someone is familiar with those "RTC alarm" switches in the BIOS
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21:39:35  <SpComb> Sacro: that's because you're the first person to talk on the 15th
21:39:36  <babyottd> to talk
21:39:41  <SpComb> yes, to talk
21:40:04  <SpComb> is it supposed to do that?
21:40:08  <SpComb> the first person to talk on
21:40:08  <SmatZ> to talk?
21:40:09  <babyottd> to talk
21:40:10  <babyottd> to talk
21:40:14  <babyottd> others do unto you SpComb just to teach it swears ?
21:40:37  <SpComb> Brianetta's PyBorg?
21:40:45  <SmatZ> yup
21:40:48  <Sacro> SpComb: yay
21:40:48  <babyottd> Sacro
21:40:55  <Brianetta> It's getting some serious treatment on #tycoon
21:40:59  <Sacro> Hi babyottd, how are you?
21:41:03  <babyottd> we are so dead d :
21:41:07  <Sacro> babyottd: yes, true
21:41:55  <SpComb> how amusing
21:41:59  <babyottd> how are you a bot
21:42:04  * SpComb pokes babyottd
21:44:02  <ln> babyottd: where is Bjarni?
21:44:12  <babyottd> is bot ? where did he get that from your memory !
21:44:59  <ln> babyottd: well we cannot completely rule out the possibility that Bjarni is indeed a bot, but he is assumed not to be.
21:45:10  <SpComb> Bjarni!
21:45:11  <babyottd> rofl !
21:45:14  <SmatZ> lol
21:45:38  <SmatZ> not a good idea to speak here now :)
21:45:43  <babyottd> intelligence is here
21:45:51  <SmatZ> indeed
21:46:54  <glx> sometimes it says good things
21:47:15  <SmatZ> maybe we should use that bot to communicate with bugreporters
21:47:20  <babyottd> and use the location from
21:48:19  <glx> what?
21:48:22  <babyottd> what is bogey ?
21:48:38  <Rubidium> you stupid bot, I already explained that to you
21:48:42  <babyottd> i already headbanged
21:48:45  <SmatZ> :-D
21:48:57  <Rubidium> between a set of bogies I hope ;)
21:49:04  <Rubidium> or between the catenary
21:49:13  <glx> it's the panto
21:49:18  <ln> babyottd: are you french? only in french ortography are you supposed to have a space before the questionmark.
21:49:18  <babyottd> i just said that's two gas
21:49:20  <SmatZ> :-)
21:49:22  <babyottd> so : p
21:49:59  <Vikthor> i think the way they treat him at #tycoon he will be banned for profanity here soon...
21:49:59  <Rubidium> no you didn't
21:50:01  <babyottd> #tycoon ?
21:50:18  <Rubidium> no at !password
21:50:46  <SmatZ> I think !password is the best thing to do
21:50:49  <babyottd> that usb thing
21:50:54  <SmatZ> what do you think about !password ?
21:50:59  <SmatZ> babyottd: !password ?
21:51:04  <SmatZ> :(
21:51:04  <babyottd> (
21:51:06  <babyottd> i think the way they treat him at #tycoon he will be reciting
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21:51:32  <glx> !words
21:51:32  <babyottd> I know 1286 words (5683 contexts, 4.42 per word), 1007 lines.
21:53:06  <Sacro> epic
21:53:09  <babyottd> very epic boobs
21:53:25  <Sacro> Bjarni is epic
21:53:31  <SmatZ> LOL
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21:53:51  <Sacro> babyottd: having fun?
21:53:54  <babyottd> indeed a bot ?
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21:54:49  <Bjarni> !words
21:54:49  <babyottd> I know 1320 words (5912 contexts, 4.48 per word), 1057 lines.
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21:55:24  <SmatZ> Bjarni!
21:55:26  <babyottd> oh lawdy !
21:55:32  <SmatZ> good bot :)
21:55:35  <babyottd> but good idea
21:55:46  <Bjarni> lol
21:55:48  <SmatZ> yeah, what about !password ?
21:56:06  <SmatZ> :-x
21:56:06  <Bjarni> so Sacro view me as epic
21:56:08  <ln> babyottd: Bjarni!
21:56:09  <SmatZ> :)
21:56:10  <babyottd> canada !
21:56:11  <babyottd> d : )
21:56:13  <SmatZ> hehehe
21:56:21  <Bjarni> Canada?
21:56:31  <Sacro> epic
21:56:50  <SmatZ> now his dictionary degraded to "epic boobs" :-x
21:56:52  <babyottd> his advice
21:56:56  <SmatZ> ...
21:57:03  <SmatZ> *its
21:57:18  <vvv444> babyottd: whose?
21:57:19  <babyottd> right ?
21:57:35  <glx> letf
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21:59:20  <Bjarni> !words
21:59:20  <babyottd> I know 1350 words (6007 contexts, 4.45 per word), 1079 lines.
21:59:47  <Bjarni> <SmatZ> now his dictionary degraded to "epic boobs" :-x <-- how can we clear that one?
22:00:14  <SmatZ> I don't know
22:00:16  <vvv444> Well, probably only by seeing it's logs...
22:00:18  <babyottd> i don't go to bed
22:00:20  <vvv444> *its
22:00:24  <SmatZ> :)
22:00:24  <babyottd> : )
22:00:29  <Bjarni> LOL
22:00:29  <babyottd> lol
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22:00:29  <vvv444> Of course you don't :)
22:00:30  <SmatZ> lol
22:00:30  <babyottd> lol
22:00:31  <Sacro> vvv444: damn, you corrected yourself
22:00:33  <babyottd> not yourself
22:00:46  <SmatZ> hello Socca
22:00:46  <Socca> SmatZ: here:)
22:00:47  <Bjarni>  <babyottd> i don't go to bed <-- now that's a great statement from a bot :D
22:00:48  <babyottd> hello SmatZ
22:00:48  <babyottd> go to bed
22:00:49  <babyottd> : i'm here now
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22:01:03  <Bjarni> maybe he is right
22:01:06  <Bjarni> it is kind of late
22:01:20  <SmatZ> Socca: the rage is over ... it was mostly at #tycoon though :)
22:01:21  <vvv444> So? I'm not a bot, I make mistakes ;)
22:01:50  <Bjarni> vvv444: some mistakes are worse than others
22:01:54  <babyottd> worse than others
22:02:09  <Bjarni> like switching + and - when connecting a car battery
22:02:30  <Bjarni> that's worse than making a typo
22:02:34  <vvv444> Bjarni: :) You mean I shouldn't correct myself on minor mistakes?
22:02:34  <babyottd> are worse than others
22:02:52  <Bjarni> I didn't say that
22:02:59  <Bjarni> I just made a statement that it could be worse
22:03:06  <babyottd> schaueble could siBjarniece at most
22:03:11  <Bjarni> ???
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22:03:49  <Bjarni> babyottd: please explain
22:03:53  <vvv444> Yeah, of course. I just haven't understood why Sacro said that I corrected myself. Or it's a bot either?
22:03:57  <Eoin> Ah, babyottd is here as well :P
22:04:02  <babyottd> why dont you go to sleep, too much laughing
22:04:31  <Bjarni> vvv444: don't try to understand Sacro
22:04:37  <Bjarni> the rest of us gave up a long time ago
22:05:02  <Sacro> vvv444: i was going to reply *its
22:05:05  <babyottd> he's going to think
22:05:17  <vvv444> Bjarni: Ic. Well, I'm new here, it will take me time to get familiar.
22:05:19  <babyottd> a new ai
22:05:35  <Bjarni> yeah that's right
22:05:36  <babyottd> is right
22:05:42  <Bjarni> babyottd: you are a new AI
22:06:41  <Bjarni> babyottd: how old are you?
22:06:43  <Brianetta> !words
22:06:43  <babyottd> I know 1385 words (6411 contexts, 4.63 per word), 1142 lines.
22:06:44  <babyottd> : how old are you ?
22:06:45  <vvv444> Sacro: You will see I'm quite pedantic. I beleive it helps me making less bugs btw. But anyway, thanks, you are always welcome to correct me. Especially because my English isn't perfect.
22:06:51  <babyottd> he is in fact, less human ?
22:06:56  <Bjarni> babyottd: I asked first :P
22:07:24  <Brianetta> babyottd is about 11 hours old
22:07:24  <babyottd> should start about bogies, catenaries and such
22:07:32  <SmatZ> :-D
22:07:34  <Eoin> lol
22:07:35  <babyottd> your name : )
22:07:35  <babyottd> lol : s
22:07:38  <SmatZ> lol
22:07:43  <Bjarni> now that's a great line
22:07:50  <Bjarni> let's talk about catenary
22:07:56  <Brianetta> we love the sound
22:07:56  <babyottd> sound of a write : p
22:07:59  <Brianetta> we love the sound
22:07:59  <babyottd> sound of a small child
22:08:01  <Brianetta> we love the sound
22:08:07  <Brianetta> oh well
22:08:12  <Eoin> of a small child :O
22:08:15  <babyottd> a small child
22:08:19  <Bjarni> we love the sound of the steam whistle
22:08:22  <vvv444> are you one? ;)
22:08:23  <babyottd> the sound of a deltic
22:08:24  <babyottd> that one
22:08:24  <Brianetta> we love the sound
22:08:24  <babyottd> sound
22:08:37  <Brianetta> a deltic!
22:08:37  <babyottd> of a deltic
22:08:39  <Bjarni> he actually make sense
22:08:39  <ln> sound blaster 16
22:08:44  <Eoin> lol
22:08:45  <babyottd> we love the sound of a deltic
22:08:52  <Eoin> yes we do
22:08:52  <SmatZ> LOL
22:08:52  <babyottd> lol
22:08:54  <babyottd> yes, true
22:08:55  <Bjarni> a Deltic is supposed to sound really good
22:08:59  <Sacro> it does
22:09:17  <Brianetta> It sounds like six motorbikes tied together and made to haul a train
22:09:21  <Eoin> :P
22:09:25  <babyottd> i'm not or so, ) : p
22:09:56  <Bjarni> I don't like the technology in the Deltic though... too many moving parts
22:10:09  <Bjarni> fire in the exhaust pipe
22:10:16  <Brianetta> fire in the disco!
22:10:16  <babyottd> something in prolog
22:10:21  <Bjarni> poor fuel economy
22:10:24  <Bjarni> stuff like that
22:10:27  <babyottd> of stuff like this
22:10:31  <Brianetta> Its advantage was its speed
22:10:43  <Brianetta> after HST, it was obsolete
22:11:05  <Bjarni> it's diesel electric
22:11:12  <babyottd> *siBjarnice it's sacro, Bjarni is good
22:11:19  <Sacro> :)
22:11:25  <Sacro> epic
22:11:32  <Sacro> epic boobs?
22:11:33  <SmatZ> :-D
22:11:55  <Bjarni> babyottd is making a whole lot more sense than Eliza
22:11:57  <babyottd> make sense
22:12:10  <Sacro> we study eliza this year
22:12:14  <babyottd> well, this is epic
22:12:19  <Eoin> hehe
22:12:20  <SmatZ> indeed
22:12:20  <babyottd> indeed
22:12:23  <Sacro> babyottd: indeed it is epic
22:12:36  <Brianetta> an epic game
22:12:38  <Brianetta> openttd
22:12:38  <babyottd> openttd now
22:12:39  <Bjarni> babyottd: who made you?
22:12:55  <Brianetta> ln is trying to educate him
22:12:55  <babyottd> a ai trying to load 41 music files
22:12:55  <SmatZ> openttd is epic is openttd
22:12:55  <babyottd> openttd
22:13:33  <SmatZ> sex
22:13:39  <Brianetta> ln's whittering on about denmark to babyottd
22:13:39  <babyottd> denmark has been a member of the nordic countries
22:13:48  <SmatZ> :)
22:13:51  <Bjarni> has been?
22:13:56  <Eoin> rofl!
22:13:56  <babyottd> rofl
22:13:56  <vvv444> babyottd: who is your daddy?
22:13:57  <Brianetta> for ages (:
22:14:03  <babyottd> who might one day pass a turing test
22:14:26  <Bjarni> babyottd: what is a turing test?
22:14:27  <Eoin> Denmark
22:15:17  <Bjarni> babyottd: you better learn how to build steam locomotives
22:15:26  <babyottd> : how long before it talks better than bjarni
22:15:42  <Sacro> babyottd: what are your thoughts on Isambard Kingdom Brunel?
22:16:08  <Brianetta> Brunel founded GWR
22:16:25  <Eoin> sambard Kingdom Brunel?
22:16:26  <Bjarni> he designed the Great Eastern as well
22:16:41  <Eoin> damnit pm'ing him stuff dosent seem to affect responses :P
22:16:47  <Bjarni> but I think the question was aimed at babyottd
22:16:49  <babyottd> to think
22:16:51  <Brianetta> The Brunel Centre in Swindon is a poor monument to the man
22:16:51  <babyottd> isambard kingdom brunel ?
22:17:07  <Sacro> babyottd: yes, he founded GWR
22:17:37  <Bjarni> babyottd: Isambard Kingdom Brunel was an engineer
22:18:24  <Brianetta> brunel
22:18:26  <Brianetta> yeah
22:18:26  <babyottd> d : yeah i know
22:18:34  <Brianetta> hehe
22:18:35  <Eoin> lol
22:18:35  <babyottd> lol
22:18:54  <Brianetta> bush
22:18:54  <babyottd> george bush has less brains than me
22:19:01  <Brianetta> ln
22:19:01  <babyottd> you have a Brianetta <>
22:19:02  <Eoin> ROFL
22:19:27  <Bjarni> somehow I think somebody added that line on purpose
22:19:27  <babyottd> think
22:19:41  <Brianetta> ln has been pming him bush stuff
22:19:41  <babyottd> stuff
22:19:47  <Brianetta> george bush
22:19:59  <Brianetta> bush
22:20:01  <Brianetta> come on
22:20:03  <Brianetta> bush
22:20:11  <Brianetta> meh
22:20:14  <Bjarni> you want to come on bush?
22:20:15  <Brianetta> sulky child
22:20:28  <ln> babyottd: who is the eldest son of former president?
22:20:35  <Bjarni> I thought you preferred Helen
22:20:46  <babyottd> come on Bjarni : you're going to come up with a corker !
22:20:47  <Brianetta> Helen is the love of my life
22:21:30  <Bjarni> good
22:21:31  <babyottd> is good
22:21:35  <Bjarni> yeah
22:21:37  <Eoin> lol
22:21:38  <babyottd> lol ?
22:21:48  <Bjarni> it's always nice to hear when somebody is sure that they married the right person
22:21:52  <babyottd> stupid person : p
22:22:00  <Brianetta> I definitely did
22:22:00  <babyottd> it said ur mom did
22:22:02  <Bjarni> married a stupid person?
22:22:07  <Brianetta> no
22:22:07  <babyottd> no
22:22:10  <Brianetta> the right one, damnit
22:22:35  <Bjarni> I think babyottd is acting rude right now
22:22:38  <babyottd> the right person
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22:22:58  <Brianetta> If only he knew what rude was
22:22:58  <babyottd> laptop only has two usb ports
22:23:05  <Brianetta> I reckon he learned it in #tycoon
22:23:05  <babyottd> #tycoon he will be reciting the svn now : p
22:23:10  <Bjarni> Brianetta: I know what you meant, but babyottd interrupted ;)
22:23:11  <babyottd> i know
22:23:29  <Brianetta> ice
22:23:35  <Bjarni> <Brianetta> I reckon he learned it in #tycoon <-- then it was a bad idea to send him there
22:23:38  <Brianetta> babyottd has spoken of ice before
22:23:42  <ln> babyottd: you are right, the new MacBook doesn't have FireWire anymore.
22:23:43  <babyottd> s new
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22:24:08  <Bjarni> no firewire?
22:24:17  * Bjarni goes to check specs
22:24:34  <Brianetta> firewire is just a hack port
22:24:34  <babyottd> do just that
22:24:45  <Brianetta> any firewire device is granted access to core memory
22:24:45  <babyottd> : s memory Brianetta
22:24:48  <Brianetta> that's bad
22:24:48  <babyottd> let's talk about sacro : )
22:25:14  <Eoin> lol
22:25:18  <Brianetta> The right hardware, inserted into a firewire port, can bypass all software security measures
22:25:28  <SpComb> at least it's not wireless
22:25:32  <babyottd> siSpCombece at most
22:25:32  <SpComb> wireless DMA would be <3
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22:25:50  <Brianetta> wireless DMA would be )-:
22:26:56  <Bjarni> yeah it's missing firewire
22:27:11  <Bjarni> then I'm pretty sure that I will not get one
22:27:26  <Eoin> babyottd : Obama or McCain
22:27:28  <babyottd> or so : p
22:27:30  <Bjarni> wireless DMA is less than 3?
22:28:04  <Brianetta> McCain will win
22:28:04  <babyottd> it will be reciting the svn now : )
22:28:16  <Brianetta> We just aren't that lucky
22:28:16  <babyottd> is just a baby right now
22:28:30  <Vikthor> McCain reciting svn, now that's interesting!
22:28:37  <Eoin> babyottd : Windows or Linux
22:28:42  <babyottd> or whatever its name was : p
22:28:51  <Eoin> Mac?
22:29:19  <Bjarni> SkyOS?
22:29:21  <babyottd> what ?
22:29:27  <Bjarni> yeah
22:29:29  <Bjarni> that's right
22:29:39  <Bjarni> what is SkyOS? :D
22:29:41  <babyottd> what ?
22:29:45  <Eoin> Skynet
22:29:47  <babyottd> is skynet
22:29:51  <Eoin> Yes it i
22:29:54  <Eoin> is*
22:29:59  <Bjarni> Eoin: there is an OS called SkyOS
22:30:04  <Bjarni> google it if you don't know it
22:30:07  <babyottd> if i get it !
22:30:10  <Bjarni> it's not that well known
22:30:17  <SmatZ> babyottd: can you make any longer sentence? longer than one or two words that is?
22:30:23  <babyottd> words that is a turing test
22:30:42  <Brianetta> he can
22:30:45  <Brianetta> sometimes he does
22:30:45  <babyottd> why does the robot dance
22:30:50  <Brianetta> !dance
22:30:55  <SmatZ> :)
22:30:55  <Bjarni> because it's coded to do so
22:30:56  <Brianetta> it doesn't, here
22:30:56  <babyottd> epic fail bot doesn't cry
22:30:57  <babyottd> i hope, )
22:30:59  <Eoin> no patchdot here :P
22:30:59  <SmatZ> lol
22:30:59  <babyottd> lol
22:31:03  <babyottd> to run Eoin bot here
22:31:14  <Eoin> Eoin bot? :O
22:31:15  <babyottd> : o
22:31:17  <Bjarni> lol
22:31:19  <SmatZ> :)
22:31:22  <babyottd> interior, )
22:31:35  <Bjarni> that's also a way to pass the turing test
22:31:40  <babyottd> to pass the turing test, yes
22:31:49  <Bjarni> make the human look like a bot so it's impossible to tell the difference
22:31:49  <SmatZ> openttd is the best game ever
22:31:49  <babyottd> openttd
22:33:09  <vvv444> babyott, do you play it?
22:33:27  <Brianetta> sawyer sued?
22:33:32  <Brianetta> I didn't know that
22:33:32  <babyottd> i didn't ban me : p
22:33:50  <Vikthor> duh, you are not an op :D
22:33:57  <ln> there has been some talk about that even here.. years ago
22:33:57  <babyottd> is an ai trying to load 41 music files
22:33:59  <babyottd> few week ago
22:34:08  <SmatZ> Brianetta: did he?
22:34:14  <babyottd> : where did he learn that word ?
22:34:16  <Brianetta> SmatZ: According to ln, yes
22:34:35  <Brianetta> ln is educating babyottd by om
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22:34:37  <SmatZ> ok :)
22:34:48  <Brianetta> om?  I mean tpm
22:34:53  <Brianetta> I meant pmn
22:34:56  <Eoin> xD
22:34:57  <Brianetta> gah
22:34:57  <babyottd> s xd =
22:34:59  <Vikthor> pm, perhaps?
22:35:02  <Brianetta> YES!
22:35:06  <SmatZ> :-)
22:35:06  <Sacro|Laptop> should we make contact with Infrogrames too?
22:35:07  <babyottd> pillock ? where did he learn that word
22:35:13  <babyottd> copying you make me hate russians
22:35:15  <Eoin> rofl!
22:35:16  <babyottd> rofl
22:35:18  <SmatZ> lol
22:35:18  <babyottd> lol
22:35:30  <vvv444> !words
22:35:30  <babyottd> I know 1623 words (7490 contexts, 4.61 per word), 1294 lines.
22:35:46  <Bjarni> I read that Sawyer sued Atari because Atari didn't pay him enough royalties for all his games. They settled it out of court and the result is a secret
22:35:55  <babyottd> they had failed to pay him certain royalties
22:36:01  <Brianetta> I tried making babyottd inhale 40 megs of condensed logs today
22:36:16  <SmatZ> hehe
22:36:17  <Brianetta> after five hours (and lots of swap being used) I gave up
22:36:17  <babyottd> my mum gave me no reason to get lcd !
22:36:20  <ln> babyottd: yes, exactly
22:36:40  <Eddi|zuHause2> you mean lsd
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22:37:12  <vvv444> Of course, you don't have usb port for it ;)
22:37:14  <Bjarni> <babyottd> they had failed to pay him certain royalties <-- looks like a pass for a turing test. He is better informed about this case than you guys and he is answering with more information about it
22:37:18  <SmatZ> hehe
22:37:28  <SmatZ> :-)
22:37:31  <babyottd> a write : p
22:38:28  <Eoin> lol
22:38:29  <babyottd> lol !
22:39:56  <Brianetta> he's very receptive to lols
22:40:01  <SmatZ> hehe
22:40:12  <SmatZ> openttd is the best game ever
22:40:23  <SmatZ> ^^^ learing it some serious stuff :)
22:40:32  <babyottd> repeat stuff most of the nordic countries
22:40:37  <SmatZ> wtf
22:40:54  <Brianetta> denmark I think
22:41:05  <Brianetta> ln sent him a bunch of stuff on germany, too
22:41:09  <SmatZ> hehe
22:41:28  <Eddi|zuHause2> babyottd: what do you know about germany?
22:41:43  <Eoin> germany
22:41:45  <Eddi|zuHause2> what do you _think_ you know about germany?
22:41:45  <Eoin> ich
22:41:53  <babyottd> ii, germany was divided into two separ
22:41:56  <babyottd> federal republic of germany, is it supposed to sound really good
22:42:00  <SmatZ> wow
22:42:03  <Eoin> lol
22:42:05  <babyottd> lol @ Eoin
22:42:20  <Eddi|zuHause2> Eoin: du bist Deutschland?
22:42:23  <babyottd> to do so what ?
22:42:33  <Eoin> err
22:42:35  <Eoin> what :S
22:43:18  <Eddi|zuHause2> it's a campaign in germany... translates as: "YOU are germany!"
22:43:26  <Eddi|zuHause2> [as in: each one of you]
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22:44:00  <Brianetta> Sie sind Deutschland.
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22:44:03  <Brianetta> Less condescending.
22:44:03  <babyottd> has less brains than even me
22:44:37  <Eoin> who does
22:44:39  <babyottd> else does
22:44:45  <Eoin> what does
22:44:49  <Eoin> else does?
22:45:01  <Eddi|zuHause2>
22:45:42  <Eddi|zuHause2> Eoin: you don't even know english... it must be "what does else do?"
22:45:43  <babyottd> it ?
22:45:58  <SmatZ> indeed
22:46:00  <babyottd> indeed : p
22:46:02  <Brianetta> Ah.  FÃŒr die Kinder.
22:46:21  <Prof_Frink> fnarp
22:46:33  <Brianetta> It's better than Schnappi das kleine Krokodil
22:46:33  <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: you were missing the subject and babyottd corrected you :)
22:47:02  <Eddi|zuHause2> so you heard of that one :p
22:47:24  <Brianetta> Heard of it?  I got the ringtone
22:47:41  <Eddi|zuHause2> Im Jamba Sparabo?
22:47:50  <babyottd> Eddi|zuHause2 im laughing, and to the east by poland
22:48:24  <Eddi|zuHause2> babyottd: so you went to get your car back?
22:48:30  <babyottd> it back on in an hour or so : p
22:48:54  <Eddi|zuHause2> babyottd: you must be very confident about that ;)
22:48:54  <Eoin> orly?
22:48:58  <babyottd> the other way around ?
22:49:03  <babyottd> we must let the bot has become quite slow : o
22:49:38  <Prof_Frink> Brianetta: So, instead of kids you're going to develop an artificial intelligence?
22:49:48  <babyottd> : s going to develop an artificial intelligence ?
22:49:53  <Brianetta> Kids suck
22:50:00  <Brianetta> AIs are way cuter
22:50:00  <babyottd> a way to pass the turing test when you reference making veh var 5
22:50:08  <Eoin> rofl!
22:50:08  <SmatZ> :-)
22:50:09  <babyottd> rofl !
22:50:09  <Bjarni> Brianetta: only when you breast feet
22:50:14  <babyottd> it, s new secret channel : p
22:50:20  * Prof_Frink gives babyottd a cookie
22:50:21  <Eddi|zuHause2> well, he DID say that he has other ways to teach his knowledge :p
22:50:23  <babyottd> i say lol xd
22:50:45  <SmatZ> babyottd: kthxbai
22:50:46  <Eddi|zuHause2> babyottd: you mean xkcd
22:50:48  <babyottd> SmatZ : shut up
22:50:51  <babyottd> multiplayer, you mean xkcd
22:50:57  <Eoin> xD
22:51:01  <SmatZ> it really loves me :-x
22:51:09  <SmatZ> it's the second time it says that
22:51:16  <Brianetta> He was threatening Xeryus earlier
22:51:21  <SmatZ> yeah :
22:51:23  <SmatZ> )
22:51:32  <Brianetta> making subtle threats
22:51:32  <babyottd> reference making veh var 5
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22:52:01  <SmatZ> babyottd: so are you going to code it?
22:52:07  <babyottd> meets babyottd's going to pass
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22:54:15  <Brianetta> !save
22:54:15  <babyottd> Dictionary saved
22:54:22  <Eoin> babyottd likes sauce
22:54:30  <Eoin> special saucew
22:55:26  <Brianetta> !quit
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22:55:35  <Brianetta> good bot (:
22:55:39  <SmatZ> :)
22:55:46  <vvv444> indeed
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22:56:02  <Brianetta> If anybody wants his data files, just ask
22:56:06  <vvv444> Was fun with it.
22:57:10  <vvv444> What are the general principles of its AI?
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22:58:13  <Eddi|zuHause2> i'd suggest googeling for pyborg...
22:58:29  <Brianetta> or asking Tom Morton
22:58:35  <Brianetta> He's on IRC
22:58:55  <Brianetta> basically, it breaks down sentences it sees, and stores the contexts of words in an index
22:59:13  <vvv444> oh, it's not something you made?
22:59:15  <vvv444> ic
22:59:17  <Brianetta> It then builds sentences using contexts matching one or more of the words in what it read
22:59:26  <Brianetta> and (if the chance to speak is right) says it
22:59:44  <Brianetta> vvv444: I was a debugger/tester for version 0.1
22:59:44  <vvv444> Ok, i'll look at it. thanks.
23:02:24  <ln> 01:12 <ln> Denmark is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of government.
23:02:27  <ln> 01:12 <babyottd> written by tom morton, a small child : o
23:02:30  <ln> 01:12 <babyottd> : most likely, )
23:03:49  <Eoin> lol
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23:10:23  <Eddi|zuHause2> liar! it isn't even 1:12 yet
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23:16:08  <ln> does he support utf-8, btw?
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23:17:55  <Eddi|zuHause2> he who?
23:21:05  <vvv444> eddi: they probably still have DST at finland.
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