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00:00:25 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:00:36 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 00:32:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B772D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7737A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:49:09 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-25-139.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:51:07 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-117-21.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:23 *** eMJay [~michael@58.175.181.122] has joined #openttd 01:05:07 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:11:55 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:11:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:11:58 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 01:21:05 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21:08 *** lolman [~john@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:28 <eMJay> Ok I think I've found an issue in r14505 01:25:14 <eMJay> My trains can't seem to find the right path through a green signa 01:25:27 <eMJay> they keep trying to go through the opposite direction signal 01:25:53 <De_Ghosty> wrong type of track? 01:26:00 <eMJay> nope 01:26:09 <De_Ghosty> are you sure? 01:26:12 <eMJay> one of them is a new train, the other was working 01:26:12 <De_Ghosty> go make sure 01:26:15 <eMJay> I did 01:26:25 <eMJay> did the upgrade rail over the space many times 01:26:31 <eMJay> it was the first thing i thought of :P 01:26:56 <eMJay> I'll replace the train 01:27:58 <eMJay> nope 01:28:21 <De_Ghosty> does the track belongs to you? 01:28:25 <eMJay> upgrade track tool says "No suitable railway" 01:29:05 <eMJay> yes 01:29:09 <eMJay> I'll replace with a diesel 01:29:18 <eMJay> just to make doubly sure 01:29:31 <eMJay> still no joy 01:32:18 <eMJay> any thoughts? 01:36:06 <eMJay> I'll put up a bug on FS 01:50:59 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet727.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:55 *** eMJay [~michael@58.175.181.122] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:13:45 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 02:13:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:13:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 02:53:36 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:54:52 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 02:55:39 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:16:55 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has quit [Quit: changing servers] 03:17:08 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@loliserv.org] has joined #openttd 03:17:22 <ccfreak2k> >:| 03:19:35 *** Fibercowboy [~Fibercowb@c-98-200-204-110.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:20:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:32:02 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 03:33:32 *** Fibercowboy [~Fibercowb@c-98-200-204-110.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 03:33:41 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:33:42 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 03:35:31 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:14 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 03:45:46 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:04:00 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0F856.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 04:06:13 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:14:48 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-36.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 04:20:53 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 04:21:07 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:25:32 *** Jezral [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 04:32:16 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:53:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FF50.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 05:29:48 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FF50.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:08:26 *** Cozzie [768aa128@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 06:09:37 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:09:51 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 06:09:53 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:17:37 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:20:56 *** Zorn [zorn@e177227190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 06:29:50 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 06:38:32 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-162-137.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:52:55 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 06:59:25 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:03:25 *** fonso [~fonso@e178099232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:09:56 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-137-221.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 07:12:02 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 07:20:59 <dih> eMJay: did you check if any signal on the path the trains should go could be wrong? 07:21:10 <dih> yapf is a full path pathfinder a single wrong signal can cause an issue 07:25:25 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:26:59 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:27:08 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 07:27:12 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:35:29 <petern> dih, eMJay is not here 07:35:53 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 07:37:40 *** fonso [~fonso@e178099232.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 07:40:51 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Quit: I'm out] 07:45:34 <dih> petern: he certainly is in my tab completion 07:46:08 <dih> that is odd 07:46:23 <dih> i usually check with the tab completion if someone is here 08:07:06 <FauxFaux> Clearly your tab completion is faulty. 08:10:23 <welshdragon> hmm 08:10:36 <dih> might be due to the bouncer replaying some lines, which could have done something 08:13:46 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:28:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:30:58 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31:07 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:06 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176225156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:03:49 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:04:05 *** babyottd [~babyottd@sarah.ppcis.org] has quit [Quit: i go play openttd now] 09:05:05 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 09:06:04 *** LA [~hailong@82.131.17.255.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:08:07 <LA> pfft 09:08:41 <SpComb> yarr 09:09:08 <ln> yarr pÀevast 09:10:08 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:16:59 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-54.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:17:03 <murray> arr 09:25:51 <welshdragon> ooarr 09:26:27 <dih> kids! 09:28:35 <yorick> yorr! 09:28:55 <dih> my word yorick 09:29:14 <yorick> ? 09:29:21 <dih> you are annoying 09:29:24 <dih> as usual :-P 09:29:37 <yorick> ... 09:29:38 *** Jezral is now known as TinoDidriksen 09:29:42 <dih> hihi 09:29:48 <yorick> :S 09:30:04 <LA> HAI 09:30:21 <yorick> and he is not? 09:30:25 <yorick> LAI! 09:30:26 <dih> no - LA is not 09:30:32 <dih> hello LA :-) 09:30:34 <yorick> :-/ 09:32:30 <LA> I can't be annoying if I'm so rarely online :P 09:33:05 <dih> well - we have had people at openttdcoop that were annoying within their first 5 minutes there 09:33:08 <dih> :-P 09:33:18 <yorick> but those were only 8 years old 09:33:59 <Rubidium> dih: yorick isn't annoying when he's on your /ignore list 09:34:20 <yorick> yes I am 09:34:47 <yorick> because I talk to other people, you don't know what other people are talking about, and you look it up in the logs, and there I am, as annoying as usual 09:37:09 <welshdragon> sigh 09:37:28 <petern> what's up? 09:37:29 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-143c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:37:35 <welshdragon> yet another annoying user on #tycoon asking silly questiions 09:38:58 <dih> lol 09:39:13 <dih> good morning Zuu 09:39:27 <Zuu> dih: good morning dih 09:39:54 <dih> i had a thought regarding your autoupdate thingybob 09:40:11 <Zuu> Okay 09:40:26 <dih> i assume you hardcode urls it is to fetch to know what nightly to fetch? 09:40:54 <dih> or where do you take the data from? 09:40:55 <Zuu> It is not hard coded in the clients, but in the server. 09:41:06 <dih> where is the server? 09:41:20 <Zuu> on users.tt-forums.net/ottdau/ 09:41:39 <Zuu> Here you can see some info about where it looks for stuff: http://users.tt-forums.net/ottdau/UpdateServer/StatusPage/ 09:42:08 <dih> how about 2 things 09:42:33 <dih> how about you use something like openttdlib to fetch the rev yourself :-D 09:42:49 <dih> then nobody needs a url for the script, you simply query the server yourself 09:43:34 <Zuu> the idea is not that bad :-p 09:43:42 <yorick> ooh, spam 09:43:48 <dih> shut up yorick 09:44:10 <dih> the other thought was you could give the admins a login where they can change ip:port of the server 09:44:24 <dih> or where they can specify another url, say for something like wwottdgd 09:44:39 <dih> (a url where the binary can be fetcht that is) 09:46:52 <Zuu> yea, good idea too, just that it requires a decent amount of work. The clients need to better handle a more variating list of targets than at the momement. (they freak out quite a lot at the moment if a target gets removed/renamed) 09:47:56 <Zuu> Also all addresses etc. are just stored in an array in stead of storing it into a file and having all that infrastructure for reading/writing to file. 09:50:55 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:50:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:57 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 09:50:57 <Zuu> So while it is a good idea, I dont have much interest at the moment of spending the neccessary time for it I am sorry. 09:56:07 <dih> Zuu: how about giving targets an id, however let the autoupdater display a name :-P 09:56:36 <dih> dont worry :-P was just a thought 09:56:53 <Zuu> I've though about it yes, but decided to use the names as ID. both has its pros/cons. 09:57:36 <Zuu> One cons of using IDs is that you can't display the name when the client is offline. 09:59:52 <Zuu> unless you cache that list, which is actually a peace of cake as I allready make use of xml to for client/server communication and saving/loading a TStringStream to disk is a simple task. 10:02:02 <dih> you can keep a list of last name => id 10:02:07 *** lolman [~john@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:04:14 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:15 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has joined #openttd 10:09:39 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:28 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:14:45 *** lolman [~john@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 10:26:28 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82258.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 10:41:25 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 10:41:45 *** Burty [~ben@88-108-100-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:43:21 <Zuu> When I try to compile trunk I get the error that the compiler can not find "unicode/ubidi.h" which is included from gfx.cpp which resides in the src/ folder. (compiling using MSVS C++ 2005 Express) 10:43:45 <Zuu> I can not find the unicode folder inside the src folder, do I need to do something special to check out this directory? 10:44:34 <Burty> yeah same here 10:45:02 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:37 <Yexo> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/a3a74c4d0917 <- download new version of openttd-usefull.zip 10:45:48 <Zuu> Found out that that is because I need to get new openttd-usefull, but Yexo was faster.. :p 10:45:49 <Burty> thanks yexo 10:46:20 <Zuu> Or from here: http://binaries.openttd.org/extra/openttd-useful/ 10:53:27 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 10:54:13 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89-138-168-208.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #openttd 10:54:23 <roboboy> gnight 10:57:15 <Burty> is libicu in that ottd useful?? 10:57:53 <blathijs> I doubt it, since libicu was only recently added to openttd dependencies, and openttd-useful hasn't been updated in years (or was it?) 10:58:17 <petern> heh 10:58:24 <petern> good job devs know what's going on ;) 10:59:35 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:59:49 <Burty> yeah... shame that knowledge does not always trickle down :D 10:59:52 <Eddi|zuHause> blathijs: openttd-useful has been updated in the past few days 11:00:12 <blathijs> Oh, cool :-) 11:00:32 <blathijs> Apparently we have active windows devs again to do that sort of thing :-) 11:01:12 <FauxFaux> I'm sure that my trunk checkout built on windows without any libraries.. after removing some defines and an assert. 11:01:45 <Burty> don't worry im looking at wrong folder :( 11:01:50 <Eddi|zuHause> FauxFaux: you could probably have ./configure-d that 11:02:49 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:05:07 <FauxFaux> Not with the VS project files. Plus, I doubt having zlib as an optional component is supported. 11:06:51 <Yexo> FauxFaux: you can do configure --without-zlib 11:08:18 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-144-134-197-132.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:09:15 <Rubidium> FauxFaux: if you know your way in VS then you can compile without zlib and such too 11:10:20 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke_] 11:11:35 <Brianetta> !stats 11:12:24 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:17:31 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 11:19:31 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14506 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/indonesian.txt: -Add: stub for indonesian language. 11:31:09 *** Belugas [~jfranc@ip-240.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? 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Bloody annoying when what you're searching for, for example, an IRC channel. 13:04:14 <dih> or in fact, as it's not in quotes wie hast tu es gemacht? es geht! 13:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause> sudo make me a sandwich 13:04:35 <Brianetta> xkcd (: 13:04:53 <Brianetta> sutun 13:06:22 <Brianetta> sutum mach mir ein brot! 13:06:28 <Brianetta> sutun, damnit 13:06:59 <Eddi|zuHause> you'd have to translate su, too 13:07:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:25 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 13:07:44 <Gekz> Do germans add umlauts if the letter is capitalised? 13:07:56 <Gekz> or do they drop the diareses like the French 13:08:16 *** Tekky [~chatzilla@p5493FC2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:42 <Eddi|zuHause> we are not the french :p 13:09:26 <Tekky> The last trunk merge of cargodest has been two weeks ago. Is there an easy way to merge my local cargodest repository with trunk? 13:09:41 <yorick> yes 13:09:42 <petern> yeah, wait for glx to finish it 13:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, the easy way is to pay Celestar with time. 13:09:49 <yorick> hg pull ... && hg merge 13:10:11 <Brianetta> then upload your diff (: 13:10:29 <glx> Brianetta: no just start hg serve ;) 13:10:34 <petern> hg push :D 13:10:57 <petern> although only Celestar has permission 13:10:57 <petern> so 13:11:56 <glx> so nice the player->company sync was not done 13:12:31 <Eddi|zuHause> do i smell irony? 13:15:16 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:16:04 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:16:24 <Celestar> only I have permission to do what? (= 13:18:01 <petern> to push to your repo, heh 13:18:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.207.219] has joined #openttd 13:18:50 <Celestar> oh I thought all devs may to that (= 13:19:50 <glx> compiled \o/ 13:19:59 <Celestar> \o/ 13:20:04 <Celestar> many conflicts? 13:20:12 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... passengers are reduced by 6 and still my airport gets overrun... 13:20:26 <glx> 1 explicit conflict 13:20:39 <glx> and some renames 13:20:48 * glx checks the diff before commit 13:21:07 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: you need more runways 13:21:16 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: kill the NIMBYs 13:22:08 <glx> hmm very big diff 13:22:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i have already 5 planes serving the route 13:22:59 <Tekky> Thanks for answering my question, yorick, petern, Brianetta, glx and Eddi|zuHause 13:23:01 <Eddi|zuHause> and i can't afford a zeppelin 13:23:52 <Brianetta> Tekky: I don't remember beinh either constructive or helpful, but you're welcome (: 13:24:11 <Eddi|zuHause> a round trip takes 4:20 and planes leave every 52 minutes 13:25:08 <Tekky> Brianetta: Hehe, I am currently sorting out the responses and reading the Mercurial documentation. Maybe I will come to the same conclusion that your response wasn't constructive, but I am not that far yet :) 13:27:10 <Brianetta> (: 13:28:11 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 13:28:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 13:29:33 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: how do you compute that data? :P 13:29:58 <Eddi|zuHause> the virtual time is part of the timetable management 13:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause> 1 tick = 1 second 13:31:08 <Celestar> ah 13:31:12 <Celestar> every 52 minutes? 13:31:16 <Celestar> that's totally nuts 13:31:48 <Celestar> no route in Germany has a sub-1h frequency (by one airline) even these days 13:32:02 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:32:16 <Eddi|zuHause> every plane can only hold 12 passengers 13:32:27 <glx> http://glx.dnsalias.net:3980/ 13:32:28 <Rubidium> Celestar: Haneda-Chitose does have sub-1h frequency 13:33:16 <petern> that is not germany :) 13:33:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i really need a zeppelin, but they are very expensive 13:33:58 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 13:35:24 <Rubidium> Celestar: ANA does 22 flights Haneda->Chitose in roughly 14 hours, JAL another 20 in 14 hours and Skymark another 7 in 13 hours (and I think I'm missing some operators) 13:36:29 * Belugas wonders what burty added to the fund-a-town patch :S 13:37:41 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:41:38 <Rubidium> Celestar: is 50 trips (A->B only, excluding B->A) a lot for aircraft (all carriers merged though) 13:44:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:12 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:38 <Celestar> Rubidium: Haneda-Chitose was not sub-1h in the by the time Eddi|zuHause's game is running :) 13:49:07 <Celestar> Rubidium: and Haneda-Chitose is the most flown route in the world (wrt nof(pax)) 13:50:41 <Celestar> thanks glx :D 13:50:44 <glx> np 13:51:08 <glx> I hope I didn't break anything (I did a quick test and it seems to work) 13:51:30 <glx> though I needed to edit only 2 files 13:52:15 <Celestar> glx: I'll hope to find test time this weekend 13:55:35 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BE4E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:55:40 <fjb> Hello 14:02:01 <dih> nice work glx :-) 14:02:59 <dih> Celestar: how about a new coop game to test it :-P 14:03:02 <petern> grrrr, stupid policies :( 14:03:16 <petern> server that must have password expiration 14:03:24 <dih> :-( 14:03:31 <petern> my ssh key lets me on, but i can't remember the password to change it 14:03:36 <dih> and probably remembers the last 5 so you chose something new 14:03:40 <petern> yup 14:03:45 <dih> yuck 14:04:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i expect such a policy to make the passwords more insecure 14:04:56 <petern> yeah, we all know that 14:05:07 <petern> but it has to be enforced for various reasons :( 14:20:03 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 14:21:39 <dih> i used to use a word, e.g. secret, and then just shift my hands when typing 14:21:51 <dih> and each time i needed a new passwort i would have something different 14:22:04 <dih> i.e. drvtry would then become ftbytu 14:22:06 <dih> :-D 14:23:22 <Celestar> :D 14:23:58 <Zuu> dih: You would get in to bad luck with non-flat keyboards :p 14:24:21 <dih> why is that? 14:24:34 <Zuu> Esp. those with seperation between hands. 14:24:40 <dih> not at all 14:24:44 <Zuu> I have >10 cm between each side. 14:24:45 <dih> you learn to type with one hand 14:25:17 <Zuu> 16-17 cm to be exact 14:26:06 <petern> dih, needs digits, symbols and upper/lowercase mix 14:26:23 <dih> well then you can shift one up 14:26:34 <dih> r5g657 14:26:52 <Zuu> dih: Though you were using touch typing. - doing that I find it hard to shift one left/right on a keyboard with seperation. 14:27:08 <dih> depends on the word 14:27:14 <dih> and where the chars are 14:27:39 <dih> i.e. a word that spans across both sides - you could shift the left side one to the left and the right side one to the right 14:27:48 <dih> just be sure to hit return properly :-P 14:27:52 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FF50.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:28:02 <Zuu> dih: return is on the tumb so no problem :p 14:28:03 <petern> oh well, i managed to log in on the console as root 14:28:36 <dih> :-P 14:29:22 * Zuu is getting out a litle before it gets dark 14:32:26 *** Mooler [~mustakrak@dsl-240-112-107.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #openttd 14:32:47 *** Mooler [~mustakrak@dsl-240-112-107.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [] 14:34:23 <dih> 16:18 < Mrs_Console> *** Raub has left the game (received strange packet) 14:34:31 <dih> second time i got that in about 2 weeks time 14:34:47 <LA_> recieved strange packet? :o 14:35:24 <petern> LA_ can read :D 14:35:54 <dih> is debug printed to stdout or stderr ? 14:36:12 <dih> if it's stderr i would upp the debug level for net 14:36:14 <yorick> stderr 14:36:17 <LA_> I just wonder about the terminology.. who calls things strange? 14:36:22 <Celestar> stderr 14:36:25 <dih> and hopefully get some more info when it happens the next time 14:36:39 <petern> LA_ is strange 14:36:41 <Celestar> LA_: up down strange charm top bottom ... 14:36:43 <dih> i would love to know what is going on when that happens 14:36:49 <yorick> so would I 14:36:53 <Celestar> dih: corrupted packet? :P 14:37:08 <dih> right 14:37:10 <yorick> LA_: that would be the true one 14:37:13 <dih> so nothing special? 14:37:23 <Celestar> dih: well actually TCP should have corrupted packets... 14:37:29 <Celestar> dih: then again, maybe a corrupted client 14:37:43 <Celestar> or a crappy NIC/driver/OS 14:37:57 <yorick> second time in weeks? 14:38:05 <yorick> same user? 14:38:07 <dih> 2 connectsion from south africa :-P 14:38:11 <dih> 2 users 14:38:17 <dih> get it more than just on my server 14:38:17 <yorick> oh, crappy gateways 14:39:23 <Celestar> anything in between the NICs should be corrected by the packet's CRC 14:39:25 <Celestar> shouldn't it? 14:39:35 <yorick> unless the gateway changed the crc 14:40:09 <Celestar> yeah 14:40:12 <Eddi|zuHause> some routers have strange modes where they think they must alter packages 14:40:20 <yorick> or it messed up some packets 14:40:29 <Eddi|zuHause> like replacing internal ips with outside ips 14:40:37 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: that's called NAT (0 14:40:56 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: but that's the modification of the IP header, 14:40:59 <Celestar> not the TCP header 14:41:05 <dih> aparently when opening a station window it says supplies and accepts (undefined string) 14:41:16 <yorick> dih: I believe that was fixed 14:42:02 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:42:18 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... first TSCC gets a full season order, and then Knight Rider... i think the world is really coming to an end... 14:43:09 *** ecke__ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke__] 14:44:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:46:29 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.147.105.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:54 <Celestar> TSCC? 14:50:16 <Celestar> now THIS is scary: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1086 14:51:10 <ln> Celestar: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 14:51:41 <Celestar> :o 14:52:36 * Belugas is having fun fnu fun... doing his regular task load while installing his next computer. The current one is getting retired soon 14:54:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: well, you knew before that a scientifical carriere is not about money... 14:55:10 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 14:55:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and in east germany, the figures are probably half that... 14:56:06 <petern> football coaches *are* very important, of course 14:56:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r14508 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r14501): arrays were not properly zeroed 14:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i think they mean football coaches that are employed at an american university... 14:58:08 <ln> east german football coaches only get 0k? 14:58:15 <Belugas> mmh... UML specifies Object and Class 14:58:29 <petern> SmatZ, that makes no sense :o 15:00:17 <SmatZ> petern: the commit message or the change? See station's Accepted cargo for example 15:00:24 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:25 <SmatZ> it will show many (undefined string)... 15:01:00 <petern> i don't see how the sizeof() should be different :o 15:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: http://forum.ksta.de/archive/index.php/t-95.html 15:01:20 <SmatZ> yes, it is strange :) 15:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause> "Frank Pagelsdorf, Hansa Rostock: 550.000" 15:02:19 <petern> ah, cos it's an array typedef 15:02:24 <petern> which are quite evil 15:03:19 <SmatZ> :-) 15:03:37 <petern> (it allows the value to be modified without a pointer or reference) 15:04:13 *** ecke_ [~ecke@pc149-88.upce.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04:13 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:13 *** Xerres [~Mewes@d-206-53-71-234.cpe.metrocast.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:47 *** d-mike [~mibindsei@p4FC271A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:23 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:19:10 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:00 *** Zorni [zorn@g224107045.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:25:29 *** Zorn [zorn@e177227190.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:18 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat3.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 15:44:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:46:36 <Belugas> lunch time approaches 15:46:38 <Belugas> thanks god! 15:47:28 <SpComb> talking of lunch time, today's thedailywtf was a bit silly 15:48:15 <Eddi|zuHause> aren't they all? i mean there must be some sillyness in there to be a wtf :p 15:50:27 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:29 <SpComb> a bit silly in terms of non-wtfness 15:51:41 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-144-134-197-132.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 15:55:16 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 16:02:26 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:02:27 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5ED06875.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:32 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 16:05:49 <Zuu> The OSK-window I hope nobody minds if closing/opening of that one moves from each window to handle to being handled by generic window-code. 16:06:04 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:11:21 <yorick> what? 16:11:41 <yorick> you mean you want to unify closing the osk? 16:11:46 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:52 *** Jezral [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 16:13:09 <Zuu> yorick: when a text box loses focus (in my widget focus patch) I want to close the osk-window. And also I need to change it so that when you click to select the edit box the OSK should not open unless you click once more. 16:13:43 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:14:18 <Zuu> I figured that it will be needed to be handled before the patch gets trunk-ready or people will be annoyed by the OSK window. 16:14:57 <yorick> I am already annoyed by the OSK window 16:15:14 <yorick> and it's non-disablability 16:16:10 <Zuu> Hmm, perhaps that could be a simplier solution for now to just add a patch-option to so keyboard users (ie most users) can disable it. 16:16:53 *** Burty [~ben@88-108-123-134.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:23 <Zuu> An if-statement + return-statement in ShowOnScreenKeyboard + code to add the advanced option should be all neded I think. 16:18:34 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:44 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:46 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89-138-168-208.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [] 16:26:56 *** apo [~apo@pD9E7FA73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:28:27 <Eddi|zuHause> commercials are getting out of hand... i reduced a movie recording from 5,1 GB to 2,9 GB just by cutting out the commercials 16:29:31 <TrueBrain> howdie all 16:29:48 <Belugas> diadada TrueBrain 16:30:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CD73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:04 <Burty> hey TrueBrain 16:32:10 *** LA_ [~hailong@82.131.17.255.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 16:33:58 *** apo_ [~apo@pD9E7C333.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 16:43:19 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 16:50:27 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:11:38 *** welshdragon [~vista@adsl-83-100-138-245.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:14:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.207.219] has joined #openttd 17:14:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.207.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:51 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 17:16:29 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:20 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:23:28 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:23:37 *** Sacro_ [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:25:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:26:43 <ln> how many minutes are there in one hour this autumn? 17:27:35 <Swallow> 7 17:29:00 <Eddi|zuHause> 7 minutes to midnight 17:29:13 <Prof_Frink> 2 minutes to midnight. 17:29:56 *** fonso [~fonso@e178122062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:09 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:12 <Sacro_> 1 minute to midnight 17:30:28 <yorick> 0.5 minutes to midnight 17:30:55 <SmatZ> 7 17:31:05 <ln> i mean, dexter episodes are like over 50 minutes now?! 17:31:07 <yorick> 6 17:31:11 <SmatZ> 5 17:31:14 <Sacro_> 4 17:31:15 <yorick> 4 17:31:18 <SmatZ> 3 17:31:23 * yorick slaps Sacro_ 17:31:24 <yorick> 2 17:31:27 <Sacro_> 1 17:31:34 <yorick> 0.5 17:31:36 *** yorick was kicked from #openttd by SmatZ [ZERO] 17:31:43 <glx> lol 17:31:45 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:32:09 <yorick> we didn't use floats? 17:32:20 <SmatZ> I would kick you anyway 17:32:21 <Belugas> never ! 17:32:25 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: they always were 17:32:27 <welshdragon> yorick, you really know how to annoy people, don't you? 17:32:36 <yorick> apparently 17:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> ln: showtime is a pay-tv channel without commercials 17:32:44 <SmatZ> nah, this is fun :) sorry yorick ;) 17:32:52 <yorick> kickcount +1 17:32:59 <SmatZ> :-) 17:33:28 <ln> Eddi|zuHause: oh, so it seems for season 2 at least. 17:33:29 <yorick> 45 :( 17:33:50 <ln> in addition to season 3. 17:33:53 <Eddi|zuHause> when i say always i mean (almost) always ;) 17:34:28 <Eddi|zuHause> of course, they cut like 10 minutes for the free-tv broadcast :p 17:35:20 <ln> fantastic 17:41:58 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:41:58 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:42:14 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fef3e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:43:45 *** fonso [~fonso@e178122062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org] 17:51:44 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:51:48 <Wolf01> hello 17:52:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.242] has joined #openttd 17:52:47 <dih> hi 17:55:08 <yorick> hello wolf01 17:56:34 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 17:57:00 <Burty> hey wolf01 17:59:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.207.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00:45 <murray> hi wolf01 18:01:30 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g230128200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:03:44 <Belugas> hi Wolf 18:08:53 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176225156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:53 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:10:39 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:30 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:24:52 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 18:29:19 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:18 *** mortal` is now known as Mortal 18:37:59 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:44:31 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:44:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:56:42 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:17:47 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:59 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: smatz * r14509 /trunk/os/rpm/openttd.spec: -Fix (r14507): missing svn:keywords 19:28:04 <Belugas> hi CIA-5 19:37:52 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 19:40:06 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 19:48:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-181.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:51:32 *** apo_ [~apo@pD9E7FA73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:58:29 *** apo [~apo@pD9E7FA73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:23 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:05:50 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 20:08:04 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:12 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:08:33 *** Roujin [~ubuntu@mnch-5d85e7c1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 20:10:11 <Roujin> just wanted to jump in and tell Rubidium I've done the changes he requested on my patch (FS #2194), but he doesn't seem to be here :/ 20:11:07 <Roujin> well, have to leave again... see you 20:11:10 *** Roujin [~ubuntu@mnch-5d85e7c1.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [] 20:15:15 <Swallow> I noticed that in ShutdownGame() (openttd.cpp line ~340) some memory pools are cleaned while others are not, does this have a reason? 20:17:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fef3e.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19:38 <Belugas> i've been told it doe snot matter much 20:19:43 <Belugas> i did not want to verify 20:21:01 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 20:23:10 <Swallow> Ok, thanks 20:24:55 <Belugas> from what i remember, most are cleared tough 20:25:12 <Belugas> so if you add a pool, maybe the safest would be to clear it too 20:27:22 <Swallow> That's what I do atm, I was just checking everything, because currently the game freezes when I add an item :S 20:27:58 <glx> infinite loop somewhere? 20:28:57 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-184-245.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:08 <Swallow> Not that I know of 20:30:06 <Swallow> AFAIK it's the usage of the new operator that causes the freeze, as calling the constructor without it works fine. 20:31:42 *** d-mike [~mibindsei@p4FC271A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 20:34:08 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-123-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:08 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet604.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:34:36 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 20:37:35 *** apo [~apo@pD9E7FA73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:01 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.3/2008092417]] 20:42:41 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: [FATAL] Client error: Memory leak - More RAM needed. 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More!] 20:43:35 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-coding 20:43:36 *** Yeggs-coding is now known as Yeggs-away 20:44:33 *** apo_ [~apo@pD9E7FA73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:12 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FF50.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:45:44 *** Aylomen [~a@DSL01.83.171.147.105.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:41 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has quit [] 20:53:30 *** Burty [~ben@88-108-123-134.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 21:01:22 *** Metalcore [~evanseeds@r59h83.res.gatech.edu] has joined #openttd 21:03:10 <Belugas> tired 21:03:14 <Belugas> time to retire 21:03:21 <Belugas> to home sweet home 21:03:49 * Tekky wishes Belugas a good night. 21:04:32 *** ben_goodger [~ben@host81-153-25-139.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:06:06 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:06:28 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:06:50 <Belugas> toyou too Tekky 21:06:52 * Belugas is gone 21:07:42 <Tekky> hi Nite_Owl, good morning to you. I hope you had a nice sleep :-) 21:09:03 <Nite_Owl> A very good sleep thank you. Have only been up for a few hours. 21:12:30 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:13:51 *** Yeggs-away is now known as Yeggzzz 21:16:10 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:26 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... apparently, the "new" daylength patch has a lot less features than the "old" one 21:16:35 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:17:34 <Tekky> Eddi: In what respect? 21:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause> for example it misses the weekly autosave 21:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause> also, i have some trouble with autofill rounding, but that might be related to combining it with the timetable patch 21:29:18 <SmatZ> broken patch update? 21:29:41 <Tekky> Hehe.... I have never tried the daylength patch, only read about it. But "weekly autosave" sounds cool :) But depending on the daylength setting, a daily autosave may also be appropriate..... 21:29:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-26-69-27.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it added daily and weekly, i think 21:30:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i only used weekly, because i don't play that high daylength 21:30:34 <Tekky> I have the impression that daylength would have to do a lot more to OpenTTD than it currently does.... it would have to change the whole concept of time. 21:31:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, which makes the project so difficult, because all people have different kinds of opinions of what should be changed 21:31:40 <Tekky> My current impression of daylength is that is a hack to change the progression of time. It needs to be better designed conceptually..... 21:32:00 <Tekky> i.e. the whole concept of time in OpenTTD must be changed. 21:34:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar once wanted to incorporate that into the gamebalance branch, but that one kinda run dry... 21:35:46 <Eddi|zuHause> and i kinda need some kind of "walking" transport type, which would extend the catchment area of my network without actually providing a service 21:36:21 <Eddi|zuHause> like a train station next to a village needs to cover the entire village, but it does not really warrant a bus service 21:36:38 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:38:01 <Wolf01> 'night 21:38:04 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:38:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-173-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:40:08 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:40:29 <Nite_Owl> Eddi: Not realistic but could you not walk a bus stop out into the village 21:42:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i could, but it's very difficult to "walk" bus stops along hills unless you destroy the infrastructure 21:44:18 <Eddi|zuHause> also, a real "walking" transport type could be present during generation time, but have very limited capacity (e.g. it could spawn one "vehicle" per day, with 5km/h speed) 21:44:54 <SmatZ> hehe 21:45:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it would then provide an almost fully connected cargo network which you then can find bottlenecks to improve with your actual network 21:47:08 <Eddi|zuHause> the income calculation then can be based on how much faster the cargo got there than if it walked 21:47:45 *** Metalcore is now known as MetalDiningHall 21:53:51 *** Jezral [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:56 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 21:55:17 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89-138-168-208.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #openttd 21:55:34 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:00:10 <ln> DOES SOMEONE KNOW WHAT DAY IT IS? 22:00:44 <Eddi|zuHause> difficult thing to determine at 00:00 ;) 22:00:57 <planetmaker> YES, IT'S NIGHT, not day :P 22:01:20 <Nite_Owl> Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 @ 6:01 PM 22:01:21 <Eddi|zuHause> "nachts isses kÀlter als drauÃen" 22:02:55 <SmatZ> [00:02:52] [CTCP] Received CTCP-TIME reply from ln: Wed Oct 22 01:02:51 2008. 22:02:58 <SmatZ> ln: ^^^ 22:04:05 <ln> OTHER GUESSES? 22:04:29 <Eddi|zuHause> my solar clock was kind of out of order the whole day, because it was all cloudy and dark 22:04:40 <Chrill> ln, I think it's sunday 22:04:55 <Chrill> or Chrillday 22:05:06 <Sacro> monday, onday 22:05:11 <Sacro> tuesday, 2sday 22:05:16 <Sacro> wednesday, whatday 22:05:20 <Chrill> whatday's it 22:05:23 <Sacro> thursday - the third day 22:06:15 <Chrill> friday - Sacro's dead cus he stopped 22:06:23 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-96-107.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 22:06:49 <Eddi|zuHause> so much for the theory on who is dead... 22:07:30 <SmatZ> it's caturday! 22:08:26 <Sacro> orly? 22:08:31 <Sacro> this thread is useless without cats 22:08:40 *** murray is now known as MURRAY 22:09:39 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14510 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_rail.cpp ai_rail.hpp ai_rail.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: AIRail::TrainCanRunOnRail and AIRail::TrainHasPowerOnRail (Yexo) 22:10:10 <MURRAY> HTTP://CAPSLOCKDAY.COM/ 22:10:35 <CIA-5> OpenTTD: truebrain * r14511 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_rail.cpp ai_rail.hpp ai_rail.hpp.sq): [NoAI] -Add: AIRail::ConvertRailType (Yexo) 22:10:50 <TrueBrain> can tomorrow be a kickday? 22:11:07 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: every day it can be a kickday! 22:11:15 <fjb> Is Bjarni back tomorrow? 22:11:23 <Sacro> I hope not 22:11:37 <TrueBrain> Sacro: not really nice 22:11:50 <SmatZ> hmm no yorick here 22:11:55 <SmatZ> to demonstrate kickday 22:12:10 <TrueBrain> past his bedtime 22:12:20 <SmatZ> :-) 22:12:22 <TrueBrain> I think MURRAY wants to participate in the kickday 22:12:28 <SmatZ> hehe 22:12:34 <ln> fjb: based on the fact that he wasn't here today or yesterday, i'd say yes, he'll be here tomorrow at 11:03 CET. 22:12:44 <TrueBrain> well, I will find out after a night sleep 22:12:51 <TrueBrain> have a good day all (or night, or what ever it is you do) 22:13:05 <Sacro> TrueBrain: well, we could huff some kittens 22:14:10 <Nite_Owl> later TrueBrain 22:16:50 *** lolman_ [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> if this is official capslock day, why isn't google in caps then? 22:19:44 <SmatZ> everyday it's capslock day! 22:20:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i press it every time i want to press a, but the keyboard is offset 22:22:01 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:22:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:56 *** lolman [~John@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:24:34 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, apparently, in jamaika, someone stole 500 wagonloads of sand from a beach 22:25:23 *** MetalDiningHall is now known as Metalcore 22:25:37 *** Jezral [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has joined #openttd 22:26:08 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:26 <SmatZ> hehe 22:28:27 <Eddi|zuHause> now the hotel they were building at that beach is totally useless. they have to a) pay millions to replace the sand, b) wait for the case to be solved (which appears to be going on since july), or c) wait 100 years for the beach to repair itself 22:28:58 <Eddi|zuHause> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7678379.stm 22:32:56 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@213.237.107.120.adsl.od.worldonline.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:20 <ben_goodger> the BBC is the tool of the devil, dammit! the Guardian gives me no opportunity to think for myself, and that's the way I like it 22:40:28 *** vvv444 [~vvv444@89-138-168-208.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [] 22:40:45 <Prof_Frink> This! is! The BBC! Do not listen to the others! They are false prophets! 22:40:51 * Prof_Frink raves apocalyptically 22:41:27 <ben_goodger> and now the weather! 22:43:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:46 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:43:53 <ben_goodger> BBC News does have the best theme song ever devised, though 22:43:57 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 22:44:08 <ben_goodger> BBC One used to have the best ident music also, but now it's bloody awful 22:45:36 <ben_goodger> *reminisces about the early 90s* 22:50:19 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat3.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:58:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g230128200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 23:00:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CD73.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:11:11 <Nite_Owl> Feeding time - Later all 23:11:25 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-75-74-51-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:16:09 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:19:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.242] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:26:55 <Zuu> Good night all 23:27:24 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-143c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving]