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01:03:17 *** elmex [~elmex@e180068179.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:39 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:40 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: rubyruy] 01:46:58 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.188] has joined #openttd 02:00:44 * Belugas puts on Rammstein - Spielhur 02:00:55 <Belugas> just to keep himself awake 02:07:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i know you french speakers have a thing with 'h's, but you probably meant a "Spieluhr" ;) 02:09:25 <glx> 'h's are often useless :) 02:10:48 <Eddi|zuHause> unspoken 'h's in german are typically an indicator for long vowels 02:11:57 <Eddi|zuHause> the reverse of that is: 'h's that are not after a vowel are typically spoken 02:12:26 <glx> yes in 'ch' they have a use 02:13:47 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, those are special letter combinations, like the greek-derived 'ph'. those are special anyway 02:15:33 <Eddi|zuHause> what i meant were standalone 'h's 02:23:33 <Belugas> ooops.... i guess i read the title with half awaken eyes :S 02:24:31 <Belugas> When saying "Hello", it does not sound like "Hhhhhhrrrrrello" to me... maybe it's not just the french, but the english too ;) 02:24:47 <Belugas> so... maybe it's just a german thing ^_^ after all 02:29:52 * Belugas yawns 02:30:08 <Belugas> life is so boring sometimes... 02:31:03 <murr4y> life is what you make it 02:31:04 <murr4y> ;o 02:31:40 <murr4y> for me, life is a never-ending journy towards ETERNAL EVILNESS 02:31:44 <murr4y> pretty exciting, imo 02:33:12 <Belugas> what I make of it?? 02:33:18 <Belugas> talk to my boss :S 02:33:29 <Belugas> ho... and add my wife to it too hehe 02:33:48 <glx> and the snow ? 02:33:55 <Belugas> :( 02:34:05 <Belugas> even worse then the R-word 02:34:16 <murr4y> oO 02:34:24 <glx> still work@home? 02:34:29 <Belugas> lucky for me, no snow staying on the ground yet 02:34:34 <Belugas> yup 02:34:51 <murr4y> i love snow; the winter is coming like it or not right, so i just accept it and enjoy its good sides 02:35:05 <murr4y> as i said, it is what you make it :> 02:35:10 <Belugas> a merchant i need to change from one processor to a new one, plus verification of a bug that occured on a test site 02:35:28 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:35:42 <Belugas> murr4y, you do not live in quebec. you do not know what snow is 02:35:53 <Belugas> i've spent 18 hours last winter, shoveling 02:35:59 <Belugas> THAT is HELL!! 02:36:13 <murr4y> i live in northern norway, i know very good what it is :p 02:36:41 <murr4y> only thing i have to shovel is my car ^^ 02:38:57 <Belugas> norway... yeah, i guess you would have as much as us... 02:39:12 <Belugas> even more, maybe 02:39:21 <Belugas> sincere condoleances 02:40:03 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:41:11 <murr4y> looks like you're the one who could learn a bit about what snow can be :) 02:42:06 <murr4y> the view from my room: 02:42:07 <murr4y> http://murray.sysrq.no/PB180012.JPG 02:42:16 <murr4y> http://murray.sysrq.no/PB220016.JPG <-- at night 02:42:30 <murr4y> that's near the end of november 02:42:39 <murr4y> our first snowfall, came really late 02:43:00 <murr4y> but don't come here and say that's not really beautiful :) 02:48:15 *** nicfer [~usuario@168.226.104.188] has left #openttd [] 02:49:45 <Belugas> looks pretty much like in here, apart from the fact we still have not yet received snow that lasts, which is strange for this time of the year 02:50:07 <Belugas> note that some parts of quebec are already pretty much all white 02:50:41 <Belugas> MOntreal is on the south border of Quebec, so weather is more... hem... 02:50:48 <Belugas> less hem.. 02:50:52 <Belugas> well... you know 02:50:58 <Belugas> arctic? 02:51:12 <Belugas> ok... one customer happy..let's find out about #2 03:00:09 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:29 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229064033.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:40 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g230007241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:21:27 <Belugas> mmh... 03:21:35 <Belugas> can't think straigh anymore 03:21:38 <Belugas> so... 03:21:42 <Belugas> hit the bed 03:21:43 <Belugas> see you 03:24:18 <murr4y> enjoy 03:24:49 <murr4y> let's cross our fingers, and hope you'll wake up to some snow shovelling tomorrow :> 03:32:40 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 03:32:45 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 03:32:59 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:41:28 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:57:27 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 04:18:32 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 04:19:08 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:22:49 <NoPride> anyone here can help me out with openttd dedicated server 04:30:45 *** silent [~pwr@82.78.117.11] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 05:21:19 *** Sacro| [~ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 05:22:41 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 05:23:04 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:24:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad38347.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:24:24 *** Sacro| is now known as Sacro 05:27:17 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-235-31.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:28:50 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29:07 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 05:34:10 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-151-230.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 05:42:12 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-151-230.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:42:25 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-237-218.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 06:14:15 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm153.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:16:41 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad38347.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 06:18:28 <NoPride> anyone here can help me out with openttd dedicated server 06:24:42 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 06:24:48 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:24:48 *** Zeal [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 06:24:48 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39:42 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28FC3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:40:04 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 07:01:04 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 07:01:04 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 6 days, 9 hours, 33 minutes, and 1 second ago: <Bjarni> <ln-> well, good to see you back amongst the healthy, in any case. <-- sort off.... I'm totally tired and I missed everything at uni this week 07:09:00 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:11:02 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 07:13:09 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-199.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:20:21 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 07:23:03 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 07:36:38 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 07:41:00 *** Forked [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has joined #openttd 07:51:57 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:54:37 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 07:55:39 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 08:03:36 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:04:51 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06:06 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06:46 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:13:01 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13:25 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 08:25:49 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:25:57 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:32:53 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:36:23 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:25 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066115.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:42:26 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43:49 <planetmaker> morning 08:44:28 <Forked> greetings! 08:48:07 <Alberth> good morning 08:48:25 <planetmaker> hm... is it true that articulated vehicles can only use drive-through road stops? 08:50:37 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has joined #openttd 08:51:12 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:59:26 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:56 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:06:24 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FC33.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:06:26 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:13:35 <welshdragon> planetmaker, yep 09:13:37 <clarkee> morning 09:13:56 <planetmaker> hm... interesting :) 09:38:48 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:48 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest535 09:38:48 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 09:39:14 <Alberth> Found a feature; negative clearing costs are colored red in the landarea info window, which is incorrect. I can see two approaches to solve this, either by some local tweak in that part of the code, or by introduction of a {COST} currency in the string system. What would be the preferred solution here? 09:43:08 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:47 *** Guest535 [~Dale@pool-71-98-67-2.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:47:15 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 09:47:37 *** rond [~Miranda@ppp92-100-48-119.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru] has joined #openttd 09:49:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:55 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 10:02:20 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 10:04:42 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 10:13:34 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 10:18:12 <Korenn> DaleStan: are you still working on that industry grf I posted about? Because if not, I'll have to advertize to find someone else. 10:19:09 <petern> the cargo grf should be available now, btw 10:19:20 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 10:19:31 <DaleStan> Not lately; Real Life got in the way just after I started, and hasn't let go. I'm still hoping it'll let go in the near future, but it hasn't happened yet. 10:20:20 <Eddi|zuHause> another poor soul lost to that horrible desease of "real life" ... 10:20:28 <Korenn> petern: yeah it is, thanks 10:20:44 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:49 <Korenn> DaleStan: that's fine, I'm not asking if it's done, just if it's still being worked on or not :) 10:21:38 <Korenn> I realize the holidays are coming up so expectations are low 10:22:10 <DaleStan> It's still relatively high on my list of things to do, just not tops. 10:22:49 <petern> hmm, does windows task scheduler keep a log file? 10:22:57 <petern> it says a task can't run, but i can't see why :o 10:23:49 <Eddi|zuHause> in system logs? 10:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea, i have never used it 10:27:10 <petern> don't see anything in event log 10:27:22 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:31:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B835A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:15 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater40.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 10:36:23 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:33 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:43:26 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:48:34 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:52:27 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:56:55 <yorick> is it me or could CargoList caches overflow 11:04:54 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater40.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 11:10:03 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:12:49 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 11:17:33 <yorick> argh, 3 times WITH!!!!! in one suggestion 11:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause> well... when the person cannot type... 11:22:22 <Alberth> or copy/pastes a word what he believes is a correct translation.... 11:23:10 <yorick> what kind of language has "!" as part of a word? 11:24:49 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater39.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 11:25:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 11:37:37 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 11:38:24 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: it's an automatic replacement, when someone mistypes "with", it gets replaced by that... 11:40:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:40:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:23 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:20 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:08:01 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-84-37.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has joined #openttd 12:10:28 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater39.hku.nl] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 12:14:51 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:35 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:46 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 12:23:09 <petern> Eddi|zuHause: unfortunately, whit is actually a word :p 12:23:26 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah :) 12:23:35 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:49 <Eddi|zuHause> but i suppose that it is too uncommon in the forum :p 12:27:01 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:28:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E0E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:57 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 12:36:24 <roboboy> gnight 12:39:56 <petern> i have that filter turned off anyway 12:41:58 *** Dr [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:44:26 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 12:44:40 *** George_ [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:22 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:52:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 12:52:58 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:57:25 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 12:57:38 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:58:54 <petern> heh, double tracks in one go... such an *original* suggestion... 12:59:15 <yorick> and he couldn't find anything similar 12:59:35 <petern> doesn't mean there isn't :) 12:59:49 <yorick> heh 13:00:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i want a LLL_RRR mainline in one go! 13:00:42 <petern> hehe 13:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> and automatically include load balancers! 13:01:18 <yorick> and WITH!!!! switches! 13:01:46 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, i have never even used either... 13:04:35 *** Dr [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06:35 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:07:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FF9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:40 <fjb> Hello 13:07:46 *** rond [~Miranda@ppp92-100-48-119.pppoe.avangarddsl.ru] has left #openttd [] 13:09:04 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81505.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:43 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80EAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:10:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:11:18 <gynter> hmh 13:11:22 <gynter> OpenTTDLib hates me 13:11:59 <SpComb> In Soviet Russia, OpenTTDLib hates YOU! 13:12:04 <SpComb> owait, that's what you said 13:12:46 <Gekz> In soviet russia, you get destroyed by OpenTTDLib 13:12:59 <SpComb> no, the you always has to go at the end 13:13:13 <Gekz> no u 13:14:04 <yorick> in Soviet Russia, the end always has to go at the you! 13:15:12 <gynter> There is no soviet russia 13:15:35 <yorick> in Soviet Russia, there is no you. 13:16:14 <gynter> Wrong, I was born before the collapse 13:17:19 <yorick> in Soviet Russia, the collapse was born before you. 13:17:58 <gynter> thats quite correct 13:18:38 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19:00 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:03 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:19:37 *** De_Ghosty [~s@75-119-237-218.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:18 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-186-139.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 13:26:33 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:38 <yorick> what does int result do in void VehiclePayment(Vehicle *front_v) 13:28:30 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-199.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:28 <petern> nothing 13:30:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.209.139] has joined #openttd 13:31:05 <yorick> then why is there? 13:31:25 *** Fangor [asd@c-ee0de353.013-115-7673741.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:31:43 <Fangor> hello 13:32:00 <yorick> no 13:32:10 <gynter> false 13:32:14 <yorick> NULL 13:32:23 <Fangor> hmm, I have little problem if anyone care to help :=) 13:32:28 * yorick crashes 13:32:31 <gynter> hmh, why doesn't my server send response? 13:32:43 <yorick> because it's not in soviet russia? 13:32:59 <gynter> you keep repeating yourself 13:33:06 <Fangor> its about building railway, really simple problem that you prob can figure out in 1 sec :P 13:33:23 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-186-139.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:32 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-66.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 13:33:36 <yorick> Fangor: don't ask to ask, just ask 13:33:54 <Fangor> I wanna build 1 railway between 2 stations with 2 trains on it but I cant figure out the trafic lights on the side track 13:34:03 <Fangor> see, real simple noobish question :P 13:34:14 <yorick> and what can't you figure out 13:34:23 <gynter> dont use any singnals, see what happens 13:35:04 <Fangor> well, the trains crash 13:35:14 <yorick> what version are you using? 13:35:25 <Fangor> latest 13:35:31 <Fangor> 063 13:35:39 <yorick> latest stable? 13:35:49 <Fangor> 0.6.3 13:35:53 <yorick> ok 13:36:45 <petern> they're called signals, not traffic lights. you can most likely find simple signalling guides 13:37:16 <Fangor> petern, sorry. yeah I've searched them but no one goes over what I need :( 13:37:22 <Fangor> atleast I have not found any 13:37:28 *** Terkhen [~ircap@50.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:37:31 <yorick> then what's your problem? 13:38:56 <Aali> Fangor: place a signal whereever a train may wait and dont ever build two-way signals unless you know what you're doing 13:39:05 <Aali> you'll figure it out eventually 13:39:11 <Aali> just experiment with it 13:39:23 <Fangor> I might be dumb, but I just spend the last 2 hrs doing it :/ 13:40:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.219.196] has joined #openttd 13:41:04 <Fangor> Like I wanna build I basic everyday railroad line, 2 stations 1 track, one sidetrack for train to wait, 2 trains but the with all combinations I've tried it always ends up in a jam 13:43:11 <yorick> -------------------,-----------------,--------==============,--============--------,--- 13:43:34 <yorick> =<- train, -<- rail ,<- signal 13:44:36 <mrfrenzy> yorick: you should have a single two-way signal at each end of the 1-way track 13:44:55 <Fangor> Cant I do it with 2 way tracks? 13:45:03 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28FC3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 13:45:12 <yorick> 2-way tracks with more than 1 train will always jam 13:45:39 <Fangor> ah ok, even with a sidetrack for the other train to wait on? 13:45:47 <gynter> no 13:45:48 <yorick> no 13:45:59 <yorick> but the sidetrack needs to be long enough 13:46:14 <yorick> and then you still only have 1-way signals 13:46:16 <Fangor> ok, how long? My is just about the lenght of the train 13:46:38 <yorick> lenght of train + 2 13:46:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.209.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:54 <mrfrenzy> I mean't one two-way signal at each end of the two-way track 13:47:08 <mrfrenzy> then at each ends you need to have two one-way tracks, one in each direction 13:47:17 <mrfrenzy> so trains can wait there until the 2-way track is clear 13:48:05 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48:20 <Fangor> ok, will try that 13:48:33 <Fangor> thx for helping a noob :P 13:49:05 <yorick> stop hating yourself... 13:49:27 <Fangor> ^^ 13:49:45 <mrfrenzy> it's quite common for people to say noob when they mean beginner 13:49:56 <gynter> noob != beginner 13:50:03 <Fangor> aye? 13:50:04 <yorick> newbie == beginner 13:50:06 <gynter> yes 13:50:16 <gynter> or newb 13:50:50 <petern> ... 13:51:02 <yorick> ...? 13:51:11 <gynter> Fangor, http://img19.picoodle.com/img/img19/3/12/5/f_trainsm_26fba35.png 13:52:23 <Spoons> Eeew, turn around at station enabled. 13:52:35 <gynter> ^^ 13:52:42 <Fangor> gynter, thx mate 13:55:54 <gynter> Hmm my server still doesn't like OTTD_PACKET_UDP_QUERY_SERVER 13:56:07 <gynter> it sends the data, but doens't get anything back 13:56:44 <gynter> $changed = stream_select($read, $write = NULL, $except = NULL, 0); this part returns false 14:01:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.219.196] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:02:05 <DASPRiD> gynter, that can be. is the socket blocked or unblocked? 14:02:41 <yorick> blocking/unblocking? 14:02:55 <DASPRiD> or well, more, blocking or non-blocking ;) 14:03:36 <DASPRiD> gynter, you could describe your problem a bit more and probably show some source? 14:03:37 <gynter> stream_set_blocking($this->fp, false); 14:03:47 <gynter> Im using OpenTTDLib from rev 9000 14:04:27 <gynter> http://pastebin.com/m43e62516 14:04:40 <gynter> Haven't modifide OpenTTDLib 14:04:44 <gynter> modified* 14:04:58 <DASPRiD> hm well you have a timeout of 0 14:05:08 <DASPRiD> which means, when there are no data on the socket at the moment, it directly returns false 14:06:04 <DASPRiD> anyway, there's a huge "warning" oh php.net/socket_select about setting a timeout of 0 ;) 14:06:20 <DASPRiD> your timeout should be at least 200,000 microseconds 14:06:24 <gynter> timeout is 1 afaik 14:06:47 <DASPRiD> $changed = stream_select($read, $write = NULL, $except = NULL, 0) 14:06:52 <DASPRiD> i would say no ;) 14:07:23 <DASPRiD> its 0 14:07:48 <DASPRiD> btw, what exacly are you trying to archive 14:07:52 <DASPRiD> query server information? 14:08:04 <gynter> yes 14:08:08 <DASPRiD> hm 14:08:28 <gynter> $changes checks only if theres data in stream to process 14:08:45 <DASPRiD> you could also use fread() :x 14:08:56 <gynter> fread reads the data 14:08:57 <gynter> sec 14:09:01 <gynter> gona paste openttdlib 14:09:06 <DASPRiD> kay 14:09:26 <gynter> http://pastebin.com/d5482bba9 14:09:46 <gynter> line 187 is the receive part 14:10:30 <DASPRiD> ugh php4 :x 14:11:32 <DASPRiD> so its only called once? 14:12:01 <gynter> in while 14:12:05 <gynter> until it has data in it 14:12:06 <DASPRiD> ah 14:12:17 <DASPRiD> i would just use fread 14:12:29 <DASPRiD> then it returns as soon as data are there 14:12:46 <DASPRiD> and in case of EOF, it returns without result 14:12:56 <gynter> $data = fread($this->fp, SEND_MTU); 14:13:23 <DASPRiD> yeah as i said, JUST the fread ;) 14:14:39 *** Terkhen [~ircap@50.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 14:14:44 <gynter> var_dump($data) returns string(0) "" 14:14:49 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179200129.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:14:49 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has joined #openttd 14:16:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:17:28 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:17:56 <gynter> Might the sent packed be wrong? 14:24:59 <gynter> packet* 14:27:11 <yorick> when calculating a feeder share, is the age of the cargo used instead of the time it took someone to get it there? 14:27:30 <Fantasya> mercy 14:29:22 <mrfrenzy> yorick: it's always the time from pickup to delivery that is payed for 14:29:33 <mrfrenzy> if you let it rot at some transfer station you will have to pay for it 14:30:04 <yorick> so the days_in_transit is reset? 14:31:44 <yorick> "pay transfer vehicle for only the part of transfer it has done: ie. cargo_loaded_at_xy to here", but the whole time seems to be used 14:32:22 <gynter> thats odd, the packed whats sent has lenght 4 14:32:23 <gynter> not 3 14:32:29 <gynter> th* 14:32:40 <yorick> did you include the size byte? 14:32:54 <gynter> yes 14:32:57 <gynter> i use OpenTTDLib 14:32:59 <yorick> and the type byte? 14:33:05 <gynter> it "should" work with that afaik 14:33:28 <yorick> ask dih ;) 14:36:16 <gynter> hmh, with my own written code, its 3, but still no answer 14:40:41 <yorick> is it a transfer bug? 14:44:15 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:45:21 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:51:18 *** clarkee [~james@adsl-213-254-176-139.mistral-uk.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:39 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 15:04:27 <gynter> I have no idea what I'm doing wrong 15:04:45 <gynter> data should move correcty since i can get servers data via game 15:10:46 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485FCEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:25 <gynter> hmm 15:11:27 <gynter> im dumb 15:11:42 <gynter> I was sending wrong packet size, now i get blocked error :P 15:14:35 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FF9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:19:51 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:25:22 <gynter> nevermind, got it working, thanks everyone 15:25:50 <yorick> http://openttd.pastebin.com/m4c664e50 <-- does this fix anything? 15:27:44 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@62.210.91.187] has joined #openttd 15:27:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 15:27:59 <Celestar> hey peops 15:28:03 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:28:17 <gynter> hello 15:28:54 <yorick> hey Celestar :) 15:29:02 * Celestar is in Paris :D 15:29:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.186.192] has joined #openttd 15:29:17 <yorick> ah 15:29:25 <Rubidium> so... ICE or TGV? 15:29:51 <Celestar> Rubidium: well, took the ICE to Paris. Will take the TGV back tomorrow 15:29:58 <Celestar> ICE at 320km/h is pretty pretty awesome. 15:30:18 <Celestar> Thanks to our incapable goverments, the Track from Frankfurt to the Border sucks ass 15:31:29 * Rubidium didn't consider the Shinkansen pretty pretty awesome; it was all very quiet and uneventfull, even when passing stations at 300+ km/h 15:31:48 <Celestar> From an enviromental point of view, the train was horrible of course. 15:31:59 <Celestar> load factor of around 10% 15:33:02 <Splex> i was on the shanghai maglev once... 450km/h 15:33:38 <Splex> that was 2005, but when i went on it again in 06, they only went up to 350... top speed is 500, but i don't think they go that fast these days 15:34:11 <Celestar> Splex: they don't run 500km/h because it'd save them like 10 seconds on that short route :D 15:34:16 <Splex> yeah :) 15:34:22 <Splex> and... surely more costly 15:34:29 <Splex> efficiency issue 15:34:45 <Splex> was pretty crazy going 450 though 15:34:49 <Splex> around the turns 15:35:09 *** Kommer [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:39 <gynter> yeh, last year longest maglev arrival delay was 6 seconds 15:36:57 <Celestar> gynter: lol 15:37:02 <Celestar> we had 20 minutes of delay yesterday 15:40:14 <Celestar> Rubidium: the thing is, the ICE can't go 320km/h in germany. 15:40:40 <Celestar> it sometimes goes up to 300km/h in Frankfurt-Stuttgart and Nuremburg-Ingolstadt, but only if it is delyed 15:42:22 <gynter> what happens if PACKET_UDP_CLIENT_GET_LIST sice exceeds the MTU? 15:42:36 <yorick> it doesn't 15:42:44 <gynter> thanks 15:43:10 <yorick> you'd need some more than 11 clients 15:43:34 <yorick> wait 15:43:45 <yorick> there are no clients in PACKET_UDP_CLIENT_GET_LIST 15:43:49 <yorick> only companies 15:44:18 <gynter> no 15:44:22 <gynter> ip's and ports 15:44:26 <gynter> should be there 15:44:32 <yorick> oh, you mean master? 15:44:36 <gynter> according to network/core/udp.h 15:44:38 <gynter> yeh 15:45:08 <yorick> it only sends the first 300-something 15:45:33 <gynter> hmm okey. 15:45:44 <yorick> @servers 15:45:44 <DorpsGek> yorick: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 15:45:58 <gynter> @error 15:46:02 <gynter> hm 15:46:16 <yorick> stupid DorpsGek :/ 15:46:33 *** yorick was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [I'm not stupid] 15:46:46 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:46:52 <yorick> why did I expect that? 15:47:08 <benjamingoodger> because you're not stupid either? 15:48:41 <petern> stupid DorpsGek 15:48:48 <petern> :/ 15:49:47 <yorick> how unfair 15:49:53 <glx> why? 15:50:13 <yorick> he does not get kicked and I did 15:50:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that seems completely fair to me... 15:50:59 * benjamingoodger nods 15:52:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:53:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80EAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:08 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:55:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8067B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:56:06 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 15:56:55 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:14 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:02:16 *** Terkhen [~ircap@150.Red-88-24-107.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:03 *** Kommer [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:14 <Celestar> do we have any naming convention for static members of a class? 16:06:19 <Celestar> m_ or no m_? 16:07:27 <Rubidium> I'd say no 16:08:20 <Celestar> Rubidium: fine my be, but we cannot access them using this->, of course 16:08:46 <Celestar> hm ... we could prefix them with "_" only since they are, in essence, a global variable, aren't they? 16:09:19 <Rubidium> NameOfClass::variable 16:09:47 <Celestar> that is possible 16:10:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.186.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:00 <Celestar> Rubidium: no it's not possible :P 16:12:30 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:12:31 <Celestar> gives a compiler error 16:12:57 <Celestar> yeah, cuz I've been st00pid 16:13:02 <Rubidium> then it isn't a static variable 16:13:59 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:14:16 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 16:14:17 <Celestar> should also change the declaration, not only definition :P 16:16:34 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:16:49 *** paul_ is now known as DephNet[Paul] 16:16:59 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:17:14 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:20:11 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet602.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:21:21 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:23:48 <Celestar> heh. 16:23:49 <Celestar> ok 16:23:59 <Celestar> where did I fsck up the saveload in cargodest :P 16:24:31 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:24:39 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:27 <glx> Celestar: trunk SAVEGAME_VERSION is 103 16:27:40 <Fantasya> crisis coming 16:27:42 <glx> and same for cargodest 16:28:12 <Fantasya> general motors going to bankrupt 16:28:13 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm153.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:01 <Fantasya> 2.5million workers will lose the job 16:29:28 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... general motors owns NBC, and NBC shows Heroes... this is going to be trouble... 16:29:30 <Fantasya> world beautiful, by the way 16:30:17 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:31:02 <Fantasya> beautiful day, yorick 16:31:07 <Celestar> glx: yeah, seems so ;) 16:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> they had that coming anyway... 16:31:16 <Celestar> glx: I just to find out where I have to raise it in cargodest :P 16:31:25 *** Kommer [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:38 <Eddi|zuHause> they would have had that 5 years earlier, but they had to cover that up with a war... 16:31:42 <yorick> Fantasya: your crisis was already there 16:31:51 <Celestar> glx: I'm wondering whether I should put the cargodest revision to 255, so that I don't have that problem all the time. 16:32:34 * yorick points out to Celestar that there is such a thing as merge to trunk :) 16:32:35 <glx> use a #define CARGODEST_VERSION = SAVEGAME_VERSION + 1 16:32:40 <Fantasya> but she dont want to stop. she still coming :] 16:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: the MiniIN had a versioning system for that :) 16:33:15 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: a nasty one :) 16:33:27 <Eddi|zuHause> well, but it did work ;) 16:33:30 <Celestar> glx: is there anything wrong with setting it to 255? :P 16:33:42 <yorick> except for you can't bump it? 16:34:20 <glx> 255 is SL_MAX_VERSION 16:34:25 <Celestar> hm .bad 16:34:41 <Celestar> but having a handful of revisions in between could be helpful (= 16:35:50 <Eddi|zuHause> two ahead should usually suffice to maintain compatibility for trunk and limited compatibility in the branch 16:36:12 <Celestar> Rubidium: do we have any guildelines for that? 16:36:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i still think the minor version should be used for patched builds 16:37:11 <glx> no minor version should never be used 16:37:17 <Eddi|zuHause> and trunk would refuse to load games with a minor version > 0 16:37:21 <Celestar> I think we should have a branch suffix. 16:37:30 <Celestar> "-cargodest" 16:38:20 <yorick> why not, glx? 16:38:43 <yorick> Celestar: hg already has unique revisions for each branch 16:38:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm153.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:38:59 <Celestar> yorick: savegame revisions 16:39:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: but you can't use those for savegame versions 16:39:27 <yorick> you can't use a string either 16:39:44 <Celestar> well .. 16:40:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.145] has joined #openttd 16:40:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.145] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:40:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.145] has joined #openttd 16:44:34 <yorick> Celestar, if you have any time, could you look at http://mz.openttdcoop.org:8000/rev/70084715cdc2 ? 16:45:01 <Celestar> yorick: looking 16:45:52 <yorick> I don't know if it even fixes anything 16:46:45 <yorick> you're the cargopacket expert :) 16:47:09 <Celestar> yorick: what is it supposed to fix? :P 16:47:26 <Rubidium> what is what supposed to fix? 16:48:36 <yorick> in case of multiple transfers, it uses only the time the transfer took instead of the whole journey for calculating the share 16:48:50 <yorick> (Rubidium has me on ignore :p) 16:49:04 <Celestar> Rubidium: the link yorick posted 16:49:41 <Rubidium> he's on ignore because he's annoying 99% of the time I'm reading this channel 16:49:51 <Celestar> http://mz.openttdcoop.org:8000/rev/70084715cdc2 16:50:44 <Celestar> but theoretically, there' nutting wrong with setting the saveload revision to like 200 in a "branch" 16:50:58 <Rubidium> oh... he has actually found a way to make FS#2427 even worse ;) 16:51:25 <Celestar> FS#2427? 16:51:29 * Celestar goes lookin 16:51:56 <yorick> it is actually part of the fix 16:52:07 <yorick> but, yes, it makes it worse 16:52:24 <Celestar> heh. 16:52:29 <Celestar> and what's wrong with your diff to 2427? 16:53:14 <yorick> read the comments there... 16:53:53 <Celestar> oh man, I'm on something that is (apparently) a 56k line... 16:54:25 <Celestar> maybe I should hijack a better one :P 16:54:34 <Eddi|zuHause> as long as it's the most expensive line you ever had... :p 16:54:49 <yorick> don't they have global wifi in Paris? 16:55:06 <Celestar> it either doesn't have any signal here, or it doesn't work :P 16:55:17 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 16:55:41 <Celestar> Rubidium: seems the entire partial payment system needs a bit o'thinking, doesn't it? 16:55:58 * yorick points out he's working on it 16:56:23 <yorick> aali and pm even more :) 16:56:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm of the opinion that waiting times on stations should not be considered 16:56:54 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly by having station expansion buildings like waiting halls and warehouses for certain cargo 16:57:06 <Rubidium> it's fine as it is... but as soon as people are going to move cargo from one company to another you'll end up with lots of trouble 16:57:13 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: not at the origin station, but in between they should be. 16:57:36 <Celestar> Rubidium: yes, for the moment. 16:57:44 <yorick> I'm of the opinion that the profit will be devided between the shareholders 16:57:45 <Rubidium> which isn't solvable without enormously exploding the size of the cargo packets 16:58:15 <Eddi|zuHause> you need a feeder share value for each company, or not? 16:58:20 <yorick> check 16:58:25 <SmatZ> why should company A take cargo dropped by company B? 16:58:33 <Rubidium> as basically each cargopacket would become a list of "origin + destination + time travelled + vehicle + company" for each leg 16:58:44 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: different local and long distance companies? 16:58:47 <yorick> the idea is to make a List with vehicles and shares 16:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> happens a lot in reality 16:58:59 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: the R word :) 16:59:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i deliberately used a different r word ;) 16:59:29 <SmatZ> hehe 16:59:41 <Celestar> Rubidium: /me considers that too much 16:59:59 <Celestar> the word "overengineered" comes to my mind :P 17:00:18 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, connecting established networks is of big gameplay value with cargodest 17:01:24 <Celestar> it will be more so with v2 :D 17:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Celestar: but the waiting time is the biggest problem for distributing a fair feeder share value 17:02:44 <Rubidium> the other thing that can be done is letting passengers and stuff pay for each leg of their route, but then you can very easily boost your profits 17:02:48 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise you could calculate each leg individually 17:02:52 <Eddi|zuHause> and just add up the values 17:03:15 <Celestar> Rubidium: yes, hence I have been reluctant do so 17:03:23 <planetmaker> SmatZ: a very usual behaviour in passanger transport :) 17:03:26 <SmatZ> Rubidium: if company B takes cargo dropped by company A, the company A will pay company B current value... but then company A will have less profit 17:03:27 <yorick> Rubidum: you only need the vehicleid and share-value for each company 17:03:32 * planetmaker waves good evening to all 17:03:35 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 17:04:03 <Celestar> good evening from France, planetmaker :D 17:04:11 <planetmaker> :D 17:04:16 <Rubidium> SmatZ: I've said that before too, in e.g. FS#2427 17:04:19 <planetmaker> You must be really adicted, Celestar ;) 17:04:21 <yorick> he's abusing someones dailup 17:04:25 <SmatZ> Rubidium: fine then :) 17:04:28 <Celestar> yeah, I am :P 17:04:32 * Celestar kicks acroread 17:04:41 <Celestar> planetmaker: no, it's just raining and I'm waiting for dinner time :D 17:04:52 * Rubidium isn't waiting for dinner time 17:04:55 <Rubidium> ... anymore 17:05:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: that can be solved by taking only the "effective distance" into account, so if the passenger would go from A(0,0) to C(0,10) and you transport him via B(5,5), the feeder share at B would be calculated as if it was at B'(0,5). so transporting people backwards would actually cost you money 17:06:41 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: you mean projecting all intermediate points onto the line [A,C] ? 17:06:46 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 17:06:52 <Celestar> hm . interesting concept 17:07:54 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: I don't think it's a terribly useful concept. 17:08:08 <planetmaker> Just consider to play with the landscape and going around a mountain range 17:08:43 <planetmaker> Rather like DB does: if you take the longer route between A and B, you pay more... 17:09:13 <thingwath> reality ;-) 17:09:28 <planetmaker> no no. I never use that word. 17:09:29 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that is exactly the point that rubidium was trying to avoid 17:09:41 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:09:55 <Eddi|zuHause> you can too easily boost your money by just shoveling the passengers to the other end of the map 17:10:21 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: my approach is not to pay when you intermediately drop the cargo. All payment is done upon final delivery 17:10:39 <thingwath> if there is no other way, they have to go to the other end of the map and pay for it :-) 17:10:39 <planetmaker> And then calculate effective travel time --> all get less, if they carry it in circles. 17:10:40 <Celestar> that is what happens now. 17:11:25 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but that requires keeping a reference to all vehicles that carried the cargo 17:11:30 <planetmaker> Celestar: doesn't happen now. You get an approx. share when you transfer cargo. The final vehicle gets the difference between paid transfer money and actual payment 17:11:33 <Eddi|zuHause> in each cargo packet 17:11:35 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yes 17:11:47 <planetmaker> I am aware of it. That's the backdraw... 17:11:49 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1CB77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that would be terribly effective. plus what do you do with invalid references? 17:12:10 <yorick> ignore 17:12:18 <yorick> :) 17:12:18 <planetmaker> you mean invalide vehicle IDs? Ignore. 17:12:28 *** Progman__ [~progman@p57A1F425.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:35 <planetmaker> meaning: don't consider when handing out money 17:12:38 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 17:12:44 <Eddi|zuHause> like when you sell a vehicle, and build another one? do they get the old ID? 17:13:45 <planetmaker> I don't know :) 17:13:50 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet602.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause> you can't cycle through each cargo packet each time you sell a vehicle 17:14:25 <planetmaker> That might indeed have interesting side effects. But they could - in principle - be taken care of. 17:14:36 <planetmaker> Then we don't use vehicleID, but companyID 17:14:50 <planetmaker> hm... no 17:14:55 <planetmaker> vehicles need income. 17:15:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what is exactly the current problem ;) 17:15:23 <planetmaker> yeah... :) 17:15:29 <yorick> if someone sells a vehicle, it does not need income 17:15:51 <planetmaker> that's for sure. 17:16:02 <planetmaker> But you don't want to attribute the money to another vehicle either. 17:17:32 <yorick> if someone sells a vehicle, just give money to the company 17:19:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E0E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:33 *** Progman__ is now known as Progman 17:20:09 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1CB77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:22 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@62.210.91.187] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:37 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@62.210.91.187] has joined #openttd 17:20:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 17:25:06 *** Terkhen [~ircap@150.Red-88-24-107.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 17:26:32 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 17:26:45 * Celestar gotta go 17:26:54 <Celestar> cu tomorrow or so 17:26:56 <Celestar> :D 17:26:59 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@62.210.91.187] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:28:07 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff58d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:34:55 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-24-149-120.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:23 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1FB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:42:55 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-24-149-120.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F425.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:48 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:47:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 17:47:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:11 *** Dr_B_Ching [~Nigel@cpc4-bexl2-0-0-cust821.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:10 *** vraa [~vraa@h215.75.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:53:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-2-114-9.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14656 /trunk/src/ (fileio.cpp fios.cpp): -Change: replace instances of x & S_IFREG with S_ISREG(x) as S_IFREG can be 0 on some platforms. 18:02:53 <petern> 0(x)? 18:03:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:03:17 <Wolf01> hello 18:03:25 <Rubidium> S_IFREG != S_ISREG 18:06:00 <petern> ahh 18:06:07 <petern> close :p 18:06:20 <petern> there's only one letter between 'em 18:07:13 <Belugas> or eleven... depends how you count them ;) 18:08:30 <glx> :) 18:16:42 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm153.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:17:31 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:15 *** Zorn [zorn@f054002090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:18 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:23:39 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-66.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:24:54 *** Zorni [zorn@e177227111.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:22 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32:03 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 18:32:12 *** Korenn [~kvirc@93-125-161-18.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 18:32:21 *** Kommer [~kommer@vestingbar.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:34 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 18:34:00 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-2-114-9.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:15 <Belugas> hehehe really tired... Receviving an email starting with FYI. Read it as "Fuck You Idiots" 18:34:51 <benjamingoodger> that is the traditional meaning, yes... 18:35:21 <benjamingoodger> FYI: "you're an idiot and I resent having to remind you of this" 18:35:27 <planetmaker> have a good night Belugas :) 18:35:46 <planetmaker> Sounds like you need to call one or two buddies and order a round of cold beer or alike 18:35:51 <benjamingoodger> indeed 18:35:55 <benjamingoodger> good night 18:38:36 <Belugas> pretty much, yes... 18:38:52 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 18:42:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:44:11 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 18:45:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14657 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-12-05 18:44:56 18:45:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: afrikaans - 5 fixed by burgerd (5) 18:45:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: icelandic - 13 fixed by scrooge (13) 18:45:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 101 fixed by Wersoo (101) 18:45:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 4 fixed, 293 changed by linasmi (297) 18:45:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: malay - 40 fixed by Syed (40) 18:45:46 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5FC33.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:21 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FC33.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-148-143.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:57:17 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:58:24 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:00 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:22 *** paul_ is now known as DephNet[Paul] 19:01:35 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 19:01:50 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:02:07 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 19:03:44 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 19:04:26 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:12:29 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:18:30 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:18:56 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:19:16 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:10 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-178-174.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 19:22:14 *** mrfrenzy [~mrfrenzy@abydos.syntaxis.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:50 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:24 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:27:34 *** Yorick is now known as yorick 19:28:13 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-178-174.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:06 *** mrfrenzy [~mrfrenzy@abydos.syntaxis.se] has joined #openttd 19:33:39 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577B855D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:45:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5485FCEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 19:59:09 <svippery> So I pop in to see if anything is new, but apparently not. 19:59:12 <svippery> :( 19:59:15 *** svippery is now known as svip 20:02:37 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 20:02:38 <yorick> ld doesn't like me 20:03:01 <svip> Really? 20:03:29 <yorick> or I just forget to define pools 20:03:37 <yorick> why are they called "old", btw? 20:05:25 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:12:27 <yorick> whoa, it compiles =) 20:12:39 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause> because there are supposed to be new ones 20:28:35 <gynter> hmh 20:28:45 <gynter> why I get blocking error when communicating with masterserver? 20:28:57 <gynter> but only if mtu is bigger than real packet size 20:29:18 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-188-101.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:30:09 <gynter> blocking is set to true 20:31:06 <svip> I haven't played this game in half a year, any new significant features since then? 20:31:08 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 20:32:45 <Sacro> Rubidium: do you want ArchLinux packages? 20:34:12 <gynter> svip, colors 20:34:35 <svip> Colours?! 20:34:40 <svip> But but... it had colours before! 20:35:04 <svip> Or did they change all the colours (e.g. invert them)? 20:35:16 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:35:32 <Eddi|zuHause> no, there are no new features since half a year ago 20:35:45 <svip> :| I said significant. 20:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> except maybe "advanced settings" 20:35:49 <svip> Sheesh. 20:36:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that is clearly the most significant feature 20:36:19 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: yapp? 20:36:39 <Eddi|zuHause> nah... how can that tiny thing be significant? 20:36:53 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... and the earring bug is still not fixed... 20:36:54 <planetmaker> hm... probably you're right. 20:37:13 <planetmaker> and renaming player to company. 20:37:22 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-188-101.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:28 <Eddi|zuHause> that's clearly a huge indicator that nothing significant could have happened 20:37:35 <planetmaker> yep 20:37:44 <planetmaker> people are as bored as the devs. 20:39:58 <yorick> svip: they made it possible to play dos grfs with windows grfs combined 20:40:13 <yorick> and the YAPP 20:40:22 <svip> Yet Another Pee Pee? 20:40:27 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-190-235.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:40:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that's exactly it 20:40:47 <svip> Ah. 20:40:50 <svip> I thought so too! 20:40:55 <yorick> PBS Patch :) 20:40:59 <svip> Nice! 20:41:02 *** Terkhen [~ircap@50.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 20:41:30 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... and there's this insignificant hg branch going on... but i forgot why people even wanted that feature... 20:41:33 <Terkhen> hello 20:41:42 <yorick> infrastructure sharing 20:41:50 <yorick> and cargodest 20:44:12 <planetmaker> lool 20:44:27 <planetmaker> I've seen no AI for long either 20:44:30 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 20:47:24 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:48:29 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-190-235.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:49:42 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:58 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:50:28 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-151-217.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:50:46 <Belugas> [15:37] <Eddi|zuHause> oh... and the earring bug is still not fixed... <-- well... minds are really hard to bug fix... 20:58:51 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:04:05 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:30 *** gynter [~gynter@78-28-84-37.cdma.dyn.kou.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:14 <yorick> is there any pow function in C? 21:10:41 <Belugas> [15:38] <planetmaker> people are as bored as the devs. <-- another explanation: devs (at least me) are too busy with the insanity called R 21:10:51 <Belugas> pow wow! 21:11:23 <yorick> like the one in math.h? 21:14:16 <glx> yes the one in math.h 21:14:53 <glx> but using float math is not welcome in a multiplatform program 21:16:15 <thingwath> why? 21:17:32 <glx> well it's usually not a problem, but as OTTD requires every client do the exact same things, rounding errors can be a problem 21:17:41 *** paul_ [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:59 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-156-74-176.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:20:53 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:21:37 <yorick> my oldpool doesn't like me :( 21:21:56 <yorick> glx: pow isn't necessarily float math 21:22:56 <glx> double pow(double, double) 21:23:18 <thingwath> pow makes sense even for natural numbers :-) 21:23:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-178-141.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:25:02 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but that needs a completely different implementation 21:25:51 <Eddi|zuHause> basically, you do square-and-multiply instead of reducing it to e-functions 21:27:39 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:02 <yorick> oldpool.h:125, expression index < this->GetSize() failed 21:28:20 <yorick> why does it do that 21:29:06 <yorick> on creating a new pool item 21:31:07 <glx> you don't use the right method probably 21:31:20 <yorick> what method should I use? 21:33:35 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:18 <glx> how are you doing it? 21:34:44 <yorick> CargoShareInfo *csi = new CargoShareInfo(); 21:35:01 <glx> it should work 21:35:22 <yorick> heh 21:36:23 <glx> did you check CargoShareInfo::CanAllocateItem() before? 21:36:43 <yorick> m, no 21:36:48 <yorick> but it was empty 21:37:03 <glx> doesn't mean you can add an item 21:41:26 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:09 <yorick> undefined reference to `PoolItem<CargoShareInfo, unsigned int, &(_CargoShareInfo_pool)>::CanAllocateItem(unsigned int)' 21:49:29 <glx> then your code is broken 21:49:58 <yorick> ah, I forgot adding a block to start with 21:50:09 <yorick> but I still can't use CanAllocateItem :/ 21:50:11 <glx> beacuse all PoolItems have static bool CanAllocateItem(uint count = 1); 21:50:22 <glx> it's a static function 21:50:42 <yorick> mhm 21:51:05 <yorick> but why isn't it in mine? 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22:48:37 <benjamingoodger> yeah, I borrowed it yesterday 22:48:48 <Rubidium> between your poptarts wrappers? 22:49:08 <benjamingoodger> I left it sellotaped to the back of your monitor for a joke 22:49:10 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean the printouts of my diploma thesis draft 22:50:19 <Rubidium> did you actually succeed in creating a draft? 22:50:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i did write a few words down per chapter 22:51:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i have till monday to send it to my professor 22:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause> cool i actually found it... 23:03:18 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F5FC33.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:05:28 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 23:06:54 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:07:06 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 23:09:57 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 23:28:32 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: ZZzz,,..] 23:32:16 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:26 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:47:55 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:12 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@62.210.91.187] has joined #openttd 23:48:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 23:48:22 <Celestar> \o 23:50:28 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 23:54:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the frenchman 23:54:56 <Celestar> aye :P 23:55:10 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e179206254.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 23:55:35 <Gekz> /\/ 23:55:35 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i don't think i'm allowed to send in my diploma thesis in french... 23:55:42 <Gekz> lolo. 23:55:45 <Gekz> why not 23:55:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i believe the rules said german or english 23:56:29 <Gekz> lol I see. 23:56:47 <Gekz> I'm pretty sure in Australia it's whatever language you please, as long as there is a translator available 23:57:31 <Celestar> haha 23:57:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-178-141.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.212.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]