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00:00:13 <TrueBrain> no, a heightmap of some random coordinates 00:00:16 <Rubidium> looks like a mountain range near a desert with a river in it 00:00:26 <TrueBrain> 5 degrees by 5 degrees 00:00:41 <TrueBrain> 600 pixels per degree resolution (I can generate one at 1200 px/dg, but that gives an even bigger image :p) 00:01:00 <SmatZ> interesting :) except for that line ~600 pixels from the bottom 00:01:11 <Rubidium> do you know the random coordinates of that image? 00:01:12 <TrueBrain> yeah, some images are concatted wrong on eachother 00:01:28 <TrueBrain> this image is part of 4 basefiles 00:02:12 <TrueBrain> 11N, 11E 00:02:27 <TrueBrain> (exactly 11 btw) 00:02:59 <TrueBrain> the colours btw overflow 00:03:04 <TrueBrain> (image is 8bit, source is 16bit :p) 00:03:15 <SmatZ> :) 00:04:06 <SmatZ> + * be triggered, so rereplace the signals and make the debugger userful. */ 00:04:15 <SmatZ> userful :) 00:06:55 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 00:07:45 <TrueBrain> new world, don't you love it? :) 00:07:47 <TrueBrain> rereplace .. ;) 00:08:13 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like a fractal to me... 00:08:33 <Rubidium> SmatZ: you're late with that comment 00:09:55 <Rubidium> #define userful "useful for the user using it" 00:10:40 <TrueBrain> I have no idea where the distortion comes from .. 00:10:41 <TrueBrain> how annoying 00:11:13 <TrueBrain> it looks like the obttom 600px are reverted in the x-axis .. 00:11:16 <TrueBrain> no idea how that can happen .. 00:11:28 <SmatZ> :-) 00:25:28 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad923e0.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:53 *** bleepy [bleepy@5ad00e90.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 00:28:11 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 00:32:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C21.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-80-251.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:43:17 <TrueBrain> now that was nice food :) 00:43:20 <TrueBrain> expensive 00:43:21 <TrueBrain> but nice :) 00:43:31 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 00:44:01 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: found of what region the image is? 00:52:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:59:13 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 01:13:22 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image002.png <- at least the image is correct now ;) 01:14:33 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image003.png <- picture of the world :p (WARNING: IT IS BIG!) 01:16:10 <glx> there are missing data :) 01:16:14 <TrueBrain> yup 01:17:23 <glx> and it's not world :) 01:18:15 <TrueBrain> no, it is not :) 01:18:21 <TrueBrain> bigger became slightly too large in PNG :p 01:18:34 <glx> but indeed it's big 01:18:45 <TrueBrain> any more comments? :p 01:20:18 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: where do you fetch the data? 01:21:07 *** PhoenixII [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 01:21:12 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: SRTM 01:21:14 <TrueBrain> Version 4 01:21:14 *** Phoenix_the_II [rdeboom@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:15 <TrueBrain> to be exact 01:21:26 <SmatZ> aha aha nice :) 01:25:44 <De_Ghosty> wow 01:25:48 <De_Ghosty> takes forever to load 01:26:26 <De_Ghosty> height map? 01:26:36 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: so a 90m scan of the earth .. 01:26:39 <TrueBrain> well, 90m on the equator 01:26:42 <TrueBrain> 55m on 60N 01:26:53 <TrueBrain> better to say: 1200 px/dg 01:27:05 <Sacro> glx: is 01:27:23 <De_Ghosty> ok 01:27:28 <De_Ghosty> it's a boring pic 01:28:31 <glx> Sacro: what? 01:28:37 <TrueBrain> for now, yes 01:28:45 <Sacro> glx: there is missing data 01:28:49 <Sacro> data is plural 01:29:00 <TrueBrain> omg ... you want a kick ban or something? 01:29:08 <SmatZ> !logs 01:29:16 <glx> Sacro: plural so "are" 01:29:20 <Sacro> TrueBrain: who me? 01:29:27 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image004.png <- pretty! 01:29:28 <Sacro> wtf, my mind is dead D: 01:29:30 * Sacro goes to bed 01:30:18 <TrueBrain> sounds like a plan 01:30:22 <glx> looks better 01:30:30 <TrueBrain> generating the biggest possible map ... the whole earth 01:30:44 <TrueBrain> @calc 2048 * 34.6 / 100 01:30:44 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 708.608 01:31:14 <TrueBrain> 710 MiB of memory 01:31:16 <TrueBrain> but wow :o 01:31:23 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image005.png <- BIG! 01:31:26 <TrueBrain> but ... pretty :o 01:31:44 <glx> I clicked too early it seems 01:32:21 <TrueBrain> btw, black is no data, any other color is detected height .. which can be below sealevel :) 01:35:34 <TrueBrain> I only really wonder why there are squares of different colours 01:35:48 <glx> hmm ok it's too big for firefox 01:36:16 <TrueBrain> use a real image viewer 01:39:30 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 01:39:36 <TrueBrain> I guess I should create more scaled down data-files, decreases the size of those images :p 01:39:52 <TrueBrain> but .. I doubt this would even make a good heightmap :) 01:40:01 <TrueBrain> even = ever 01:41:21 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:42:22 <glx> even gimp has problems to handle it (slow reaction) 01:43:13 <TrueBrain> libpng is SLOW with valgrind attached .. 01:43:23 <TrueBrain> glx: what are the dimensions of the image? :p 01:45:00 <TrueBrain> uploaded a new, slightly corrected, image of 005 01:45:13 <glx> 26850*9000 01:45:14 <TrueBrain> removes most of the weird squares 01:45:17 <TrueBrain> now just a few are left .. 01:45:55 <TrueBrain> takes 19 sec to generate the image :p 01:46:40 <TrueBrain> hahahaha :) 01:47:22 <SmatZ> :) 01:48:55 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image006.png 01:48:57 <TrueBrain> the highest detail 01:49:59 <Tefad> neat 01:51:01 <TrueBrain> now it is time for some correction algorithms 01:51:23 <TrueBrain> well, first I need to find my bed I guess 01:56:04 <TrueBrain> those weird squares are images that are wrongly converted 01:56:13 <TrueBrain> more exact: they contain 2 or 3 pixels with real data, the rest is garbage :p 02:04:32 <TrueBrain> hmm .. somewhere a conversion went wrong .. oh well 02:04:44 <TrueBrain> I just press: 'sh scripts/hmp.sh' 02:04:46 <TrueBrain> which takes 3 hours 02:04:48 <TrueBrain> and go to bed 02:04:49 <TrueBrain> night all! 02:07:25 <SmatZ> good night TrueBrain 02:23:42 *** Sebbe [Sebbe@x1-6-00-16-41-59-ea-88.k332.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 02:36:24 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066038.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38:53 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 02:42:14 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:50:04 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has joined #openttd 03:05:33 *** FloSoft` [~sifldoer@g229119242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:07:18 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229112244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:18 *** FloSoft` is now known as FloSoft 03:09:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:13:25 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:23:02 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 03:23:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:23:05 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 04:09:58 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 04:48:34 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm14.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 05:05:51 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:05:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:05:54 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 05:39:57 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:41:07 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 05:43:14 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-69.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:45:56 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 05:47:43 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:15:16 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0E83F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 06:18:28 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-199.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:27:55 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:27:55 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:27:58 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 06:47:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:19:22 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 07:24:54 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 07:55:30 <planetmaker> g'day 08:01:02 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 08:11:03 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:11:04 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:06 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 08:25:16 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d87152b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 08:25:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 08:45:20 <Celestar> petern: so you consider using the cargoclasses as faulty? 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10:49:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> when Mr. S. talks about "a network of security agencies" that raises horrible thoughts... 10:54:33 <Forked> V for Vendetta 10:56:15 <Eddi|zuHause> "include citizens into the network of information gathering"... hell... if that is not Stasi 2.0, what is? 10:56:26 <Eddi|zuHause> how much further can he go on with this crap? 10:57:03 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: until someone shoots him, imho 10:57:14 <Eddi|zuHause> they tried that already... 10:57:27 <Celestar> yeah 10:57:33 <Celestar> and LaFoncrap too 10:57:46 <Celestar> put them in a sack, grab a large club, and off you go 11:00:28 <Eddi|zuHause> "nobody has the intention to spy on the lives of harmless citizens" ... in the same way as nobody had the intention to build a wall? 11:01:31 <Celestar> the question is, who defines "harmless"? You can easily define a certain ethnic group as "non-harmless". Rumor has it that it has been tried at some point in the past 11:04:32 <Celestar> he's the worst person in our government by far and that is saying something 11:04:39 *** arachnid [~arachnid@clamps.notdot.net] has left #openttd [] 11:04:52 <Forked> scary times.. 11:05:01 <Celestar> I don't agree with some things the other ministers do, but they're are usually democratic people. S is not 11:08:06 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image005.png <- corrected the weird squares. WARNING: STILL A VERY VERY BIG FILE 11:09:04 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179054176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:11:31 <Celestar> O_O Awesome 11:12:20 <Celestar> TrueBrain: what resolution is that? 11:12:52 <Forked> 26850x9000 ? 11:13:05 <TrueBrain> euh .. 75px/dg 11:13:13 <TrueBrain> I still need to generate lower resolution files 11:13:17 <TrueBrain> makes the image a bit smaller :p 11:13:30 <TrueBrain> but 75 can't be divided by 2 ... :( 11:13:49 <TrueBrain> yup 11:13:54 <Forked> you did like that weebls thing said .. and forgot Norway :\ 11:14:02 <Forked> weebls song about kenya, even 11:14:26 <TrueBrain> SRTM, the main source for those images, go up to 60N and down to 60S 11:14:27 <Celestar> Forked: we need a map of that size then :) 11:14:30 <Celestar> 32k x 8k 11:14:32 <Celestar> :P 11:14:32 <TrueBrain> so sorry, no Norway 11:15:19 <Celestar> stupid shuttle can't really get into high-inclination orbits 11:15:21 <Celestar> 60° max 11:15:23 <Eddi|zuHause> luckily, i am lower than 60°N ;) 11:15:37 <Celestar> well actually it's not the shuttle's fault, but KSC's 11:15:50 <TrueBrain> also a problem of the amount of data 11:15:57 <Forked> I read KFC .. that would have been a tad funny :p 11:15:58 <TrueBrain> at 0N 1 pixel is 90m 11:15:59 <Eddi|zuHause> it's KFC's fault, definitely 11:16:02 <TrueBrain> at 60N 1 pixels is 55m 11:16:03 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: :) 11:16:08 <TrueBrain> at 80N 1 pixels would be 13m 11:17:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it's a general problem of map making 11:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause> that a sphere is not a "flat" surface 11:17:56 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot project the whole sphere on a sheet of paper 11:18:10 <TrueBrain> and that is currently the problem of this image 11:18:18 <TrueBrain> it is stretched 11:18:31 <TrueBrain> but that is the next step :) 11:18:45 <TrueBrain> first I wanted to fix the ugly colours .. 11:19:09 <TrueBrain> you can .. you just need to use your imagination to see the sphere ;) 11:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you can't as soon as you want to project both poles, one of them diverges towards infinity 11:20:56 <TrueBrain> not infinity :) 11:22:27 <TrueBrain> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Mollweide-projection.jpg <- I think that is pretty flat, and with imagination, a nice sphere :) 11:22:43 * dihedral waves hello to TrueBrain 11:22:55 <Eddi|zuHause> either that, or you end up with pixels who are next to each other on the world, but are not next to each other on the map 11:23:30 <TrueBrain> for mapgen I will use this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Usgs_map_robinson.PNG 11:23:32 <TrueBrain> hi dihedral 11:23:39 <TrueBrain> we were afraid you were dead, but good to see you alive :) 11:23:44 <dihedral> :-P 11:23:53 <dihedral> i was kinda last week 11:25:23 <Eddi|zuHause> and all the sensible maps i have ever seen made the cut at 170°W 11:26:19 <Eddi|zuHause> (i.e. centered on 10°E) 11:30:17 <Celestar> my L3 cache debugger fails somehow :S 11:30:56 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: and what good does that do? 11:30:59 <TrueBrain> Celestar: that sucks 11:31:41 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: it does not split Asia 11:32:30 <TrueBrain> or do like google-maps, just wrap the map from one side to the other and conitnue ) 11:35:14 <roboboy> gnight 11:37:44 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:42:54 <TrueBrain> @calc 16*16 11:42:54 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 256 11:42:58 <Celestar> ? 11:42:58 <TrueBrain> just checking if I am not going insnae :p 11:44:42 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:42 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:44:45 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 11:45:46 <TrueBrain> lol, a lineair height scale is a VERY bad idea :) 11:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> add more height levels :p 11:49:11 <Eddi|zuHause> err... did it ever happen to you that the system started to shut down without any interaction of yours? 11:49:55 <dihedral> yes 11:50:00 <dihedral> after some windows updates :-D 11:50:02 <TrueBrain> nope 11:50:10 <dihedral> on any other system: no 11:52:11 <Eddi|zuHause> it's weird... kde suddenly decided it wanted to shut down... 11:52:53 <DASPRiD> dihedral, windows updates? as in "new fascinating security holes, created out of stuffing out the old ones"? 11:52:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it's now sitting here with a window asking me to close it... 11:53:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and i can't figure out a way to stop the shutdown... 11:53:34 <dihedral> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellcats_Over_the_Pacific <- was a beautiful game 11:54:13 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: 'shutdown -c' cancels a shutdown 11:54:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried that, it says there is no shutdown running... 11:54:47 <Gekz> kill KDE 11:54:49 <Gekz> it's the only way! 11:54:57 <TrueBrain> so there isn't ;) It is only KDE fucking up 11:55:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but i still can't figure out a way to stop it... 11:55:59 <blathijs> 12:49:11 < Eddi|zuHause> err... did it ever happen to you that the system started to shut down without any interaction of yours? <-- Our primary domain controller did that once, just after he did the scheduled updates at 12.00 PM (which is a wonderful time for your network to break down completely...) 11:56:07 <TrueBrain> so let it .. 11:57:10 <dihedral> blathijs, you run KDE on your pdc? :-P 11:57:44 <blathijs> dihedral: AFAIK "the system" does not imply kde :-p 11:57:58 <blathijs> nor linux, for that matter 11:58:33 <TrueBrain> bah, I can't get the colours right .. maybe I should not worry about it too much either :) 11:58:56 <dihedral> no - and i personally dislike KDE a lot :-P 12:01:16 <blathijs> dihedral: I usually do so as well, but atm it's the most workable environment here (alternatives are twm and pwm or something obscure like that), so I'm giving it a go for a while 12:01:36 <blathijs> I might end up complaining to our IT department, though :-) 12:01:51 <dihedral> gnome or fluxbox are my personal favs :-) 12:02:07 <Gekz> my personal favourite is the terminal 12:02:22 <Gekz> I use XFCE. 12:02:46 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:02:53 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 12:04:48 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image007.png <- STILL VERY HUGE! 12:04:51 <TrueBrain> but with pretty colours :) 12:04:55 <blathijs> dihedral: Might be me, but isn't that an uneven list? Gnome is a desktop environment, while fluxbox is a window manager, right? 12:05:55 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [] 12:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i searched any log i could find... but there is no indication on what sent this shutdown request 12:10:45 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:25:47 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause has ghosts!!! 12:31:44 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 12:39:04 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: kill kde? 12:39:25 <SpComb> you probably need to send some magic dbus request or something 12:41:00 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.16.188.209.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 12:46:43 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:46:43 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:46 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 12:58:50 <dihedral> blathijs: is not metacity the window manager? 13:00:43 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet573.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 13:04:54 <blathijs> dihedral: the window manager of fluxbox you mean? 13:06:05 <blathijs> Ah, metacity is the default window manager of Gnome 13:06:18 <blathijs> Last time I used Gnome, it was window-manager agnostic IIRC :-) 13:09:53 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:10:26 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 13:19:08 <DASPRiD> eat more dihedral! 13:31:20 <petern> yeah, i don't eat enough dihedral 13:32:12 <dihedral> lol 13:35:11 <DASPRiD> ^^ 13:38:00 <Eddi|zuHause> you should try it, tastes like chicken 13:41:25 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:41:37 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 13:43:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:48:35 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:48:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:38 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 14:04:04 <TrueBrain> damn, my correction algorithms still fail badly :( 14:04:10 <Celestar> heh 14:04:11 <TrueBrain> that is, on small scale it looks perfect 14:04:18 <TrueBrain> but on world scale ... things are fuzzy :( 14:04:27 <Celestar> I need a desyncing cargodest game to test by cache debugger :P 14:04:44 <Eddi|zuHause> sorry, can't help there :p 14:04:53 <Celestar> :P 14:05:09 <Celestar> Ammler: we need a cargodest game :D 14:05:16 <Forked> :) 14:05:25 <Celestar> and try to make it desync :P 14:06:35 <TrueBrain> join with a modified client! 14:06:36 <TrueBrain> :p 14:06:40 <Celestar> :P 14:06:46 * Celestar pokes TrueBrain with a Windows Vista package 14:06:54 <Celestar> ok .. that was nasty 14:07:00 <Celestar> sorry :P 14:07:02 * Celestar hides 14:07:06 <TrueBrain> haha 14:08:14 * Celestar wonders whether the "!=" operator on a std::map does what he thinks it does 14:09:30 <TrueBrain> haha, always a good thing to ask yourself :) 14:10:34 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image008.png <- somehow it is too greedy (BIG IMAGE!) 14:10:40 <blathijs> probably element-by-element copy I'd expect 14:11:11 <DJNekkid> that image wont load, atleast not in my firefox 14:11:39 <DJNekkid> _seems_ to work in IE 14:12:00 <TrueBrain> seen the size, that is no suprise 14:12:04 <TrueBrain> I would suggest using a real image viewer :) 14:12:15 <TrueBrain> (it requires about 200 MiB of RAM to load in any viewer) 14:12:21 <blathijs> My FF doesn't load it either... 14:13:02 <thingwath> is this one bigger than those before? 14:13:05 <TrueBrain> no FF would be able to load those images 14:13:09 <TrueBrain> even bigger, yes 14:13:56 <thingwath> FF kaput :-( 14:14:13 <DJNekkid> what is that btw, some kind of world map in green and blue? 14:14:18 <DJNekkid> with some red? ;) 14:15:05 <Celestar> blathijs: I hope "!=" doesn't copy anything :P 14:15:13 <TrueBrain> I am really running out of clues how to compensate for latitude conversion .. 14:15:25 <thingwath> but eog is doing fine, strange 14:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> thingwath: it's written with double t 14:16:03 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:16:26 <thingwath> in german 14:17:40 * Rubidium slaps Celestar with a FS#2447 ;) 14:17:51 <Rubidium> and hello Celestar ;) 14:18:15 <TrueBrain> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image009.png <- lol .... at least it does look 3D :p (which is NOT the intention) 14:18:52 <SmatZ> Celestar: hello, current cargodest trunk compiles wtih all GCCs I tested (with patch so CC_* is known ;) 14:19:08 <Celestar> SmatZ: yeah, removed that crappy last commit anyway :P 14:19:56 <glx> TrueBrain: nice 14:20:17 <glx> and with colors it's way better than B/W 14:20:27 <TrueBrain> glx: not really .. the compenstation routine still fails 14:20:45 <Celestar> MEH 14:21:05 <Celestar> I've now totally fucked up my hg checkout :P 14:21:24 <TrueBrain> there is this big desync between what we are used to see when looking at such images, and what is reality 14:21:47 <Belugas> then, use the former :D 14:21:53 <TrueBrain> concratz :) 14:22:07 <Eddi|zuHause> why is there a blue rectangle in the middle of north america? 14:22:12 <TrueBrain> no clue what algorithms they use for that 14:22:15 <TrueBrain> as I only know real math :) 14:22:20 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:22:23 <TrueBrain> and not make-look-good math 14:22:29 <TrueBrain> no-data 14:22:42 <TrueBrain> seen of the position, most likely classified 14:23:03 <TrueBrain> (it is in some lake) 14:23:26 <blathijs> Celestar: uh, woops :-) 14:23:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it is obviously in lake superior 14:24:21 <TrueBrain> even GoogleMaps blanks out on that position :p 14:25:19 <Eddi|zuHause> it looks great as a base for a north america map, anyway 14:25:32 <TrueBrain> a whole cell of no-data, for no clear reason .. 14:25:50 <Eddi|zuHause> world maps are insanely difficult to render, anyway 14:26:18 <TrueBrain> in Europe that happens more, but that is because the data was inconclusive .. for USA it is a combination with an other survey, so there should be no reason to have a whole cell blanking out like that .. 14:26:34 <TrueBrain> even using North America as base looks like crap :) 14:26:39 <TrueBrain> (compare it to your atlas, and you will notice) 14:27:12 <Celestar> HELP! 14:28:16 * Celestar tries a clean checkup 14:28:26 <TrueBrain> Celestar: what did you do? 14:30:23 <Celestar> I'm trying to "revert" the last transaction 14:30:27 <Celestar> remotely 14:30:38 <TrueBrain> always a nasty thing with mercurial :) 14:31:10 <Rubidium> just commit the inverse of the commit you want to reverse 14:31:14 <Rubidium> instead of trying to remove the commit from the repository 14:31:21 <Celestar> or I'm doing it differently .. 14:31:21 <TrueBrain> easier is to just make a revert commit 14:31:29 <SpComb> someone's discussing C++ and copying... 14:31:37 <TrueBrain> (also you do end up with multiple heads, and that is a nasty thing too :p) 14:31:38 <Eddi|zuHause> can't you just change the tip? 14:31:46 <Celestar> TrueBrain: yeah, that much I learnt already 14:32:10 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:32:21 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, now we broke him compleletely... 14:32:22 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 14:32:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 14:32:24 <SpComb> I profiled our C++ game's code the yesterday, there were, like, 12000000 calls to our Vector class's various constructors :) 14:32:51 <Eddi|zuHause> grammer not much sense this makes sentence 14:33:06 <Celestar> SpComb: can you be a bit more specific? 14:33:52 <SpComb> no, the project deadline is on wednesday 14:34:16 <TrueBrain> did we trade SpComb for babybot, or? 14:34:29 <Rubidium> duh ;) 14:34:48 * SpComb is a bit 14:34:50 <SpComb> *not a 14:34:57 <TrueBrain> drunk 14:34:58 <TrueBrain> insane 14:34:58 <TrueBrain> stupid 14:34:59 <Celestar> *bot 14:35:01 <TrueBrain> :p 14:35:08 <TrueBrain> oh, I Thought it was a: fill in the blank 14:37:24 *** vraa [~vraa@h36.227.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:37:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:38:15 <SpComb> I guess we should just go through our code and replace "Vector" with "const Vector&" everywhere 14:39:23 *** snorre [~snorre@cF6FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 14:42:32 <Celestar> ? 14:42:44 <DJNekkid> i have a question regarding cargodest ... is there a way i can have the "going via unkown station" go away? ive tried the rn rr 14:42:50 <DJNekkid> without much luck 14:42:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77444.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:03 <Celestar> DJNekkid: not yet 14:44:10 <DJNekkid> oki :) 14:44:19 <Celestar> DJNekkid: you can reconnect the station in question 14:44:31 * SpComb is talking about a uni project, not OpenTTD 14:45:08 <Celestar> Why don't you say so right away? :S 14:45:21 * Celestar pokes SpComb with Windows Vista Premium box 14:45:40 <DJNekkid> well, its a matter of makeing an orderset (lets say we have a big train-station connected with trams), and the main station gets "no loading" on the trams orders 14:46:28 <Celestar> You lost me somewhere in between :P 14:46:35 <Celestar> what is an orderset? 14:47:24 <DJNekkid> bad wording :) 14:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> station-walk the destination station to an area that does not accept passengers, then provide a service to remove the remaining passengers 14:48:25 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 14:48:57 <DJNekkid> hmm, that is perhaps an option ... 14:49:00 <DJNekkid> let me see 14:50:27 <SpComb> Celestar: it was implied 14:50:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:50:35 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:50:45 <SpComb> we decided to write our own 2D Vector class instead of using the complex type or whatever 14:51:16 <RvGaTe> how can i make sure that industry cannot be added or move during the game? 14:51:17 <TrueBrain> haha, nice thing to know: on Google Maps it looks like Greenland is about the same size as Africa. In reality, the latter is 14 (!) times as big ;) 14:51:19 <SpComb> and unsurprisingly, it appears to be our bottleneck, with like 20% of program execution time spent in the damn thing's constructor... 14:51:26 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 14:51:41 <Celestar> hm .. 14:51:48 <Celestar> so TownEffect or CargoClasses? 14:52:01 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: i fail to see the relevance 14:52:28 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: C++ code does a lot of copying 14:52:51 <Eddi|zuHause> so? 14:52:52 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: does there always have to be a relevance? 14:53:14 <Rubidium> SpComb: if you tell it: pass by value, then it has to copy it... so it's your own fault ;) 14:53:25 <Eddi|zuHause> no, but it's not helping in making sense of his words either 14:53:47 <SpComb> it's completely irrelevant to OpenTTD, execpt to discuss C++ 14:54:16 <DJNekkid> Eddi|zuHause: that seems to make them dissappear, yes 14:54:30 <Celestar> void b(SomeClass a) { /* Code to handle a */ } void foo() { SomeClass a; b(a); return; } 14:54:33 <TrueBrain> I guess the != question of Celestar triggered it :) 14:54:43 <Celestar> this will cause the constructor of a to be called in the function call. 14:55:00 * Belugas helloes wave back at dih 14:55:06 <Eddi|zuHause> solution: pass by reference 14:55:10 <Belugas> hooo...long time ago... 14:55:38 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: the -18, is that Celsius? 14:55:40 <Celestar> or use a refernce. 14:55:44 <Celestar> reference. 14:55:53 <Celestar> void b(SomeClass& a) 14:55:59 <Celestar> it's not that much code to change :P 14:56:08 <TrueBrain> okay, GoogleMaps scales in the y-axis only, while I now try to scale in the x-axis .. ghehe :) 14:56:44 <Celestar> petern: we need to discuss that TownEffect vs CargoClass thing at some point 14:56:57 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, yes, it was in Celsius 14:57:04 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i feel sick today... but not enough to warrant going through the trouble of seeing a doctor... 14:57:07 <Belugas> now, it's "warmer", around -10 14:57:15 <TrueBrain> 1/ln(x) = ? 14:57:30 <Celestar> TrueBrain: ? 14:57:39 <Celestar> You cannot simplify this anymore 14:57:41 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, then you're not sick, you're undisposed (if ever that word exists) 14:57:43 <petern> hello 14:57:46 <TrueBrain> sucks :p 14:57:48 <petern> is there an s60 rdp client? 14:57:48 <Celestar> hey petern :D 14:57:49 <Belugas> hello petern 14:57:55 <Celestar> s60 being? 14:57:56 <petern> Celestar, cargoclass is fine there, probably 14:58:00 <petern> nokia phone 14:58:06 <TrueBrain> 1 / ln(tan(x) + sec(x)) 14:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> 1=ln(e), ln(e)/ln(x) = log_x(e) 14:58:11 <petern> i've installed s60putty 14:58:15 <TrueBrain> I need that kind of simplicated :p 14:58:15 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure if that helps you in any way :p 14:58:39 <Celestar> petern: http://s60-remote-desktop.qarchive.org/ 14:58:40 <Celestar> this? 14:58:55 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: i think you are beyond hope there 14:59:11 <TrueBrain> I was afraid so too :p 14:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> how do you get that kind of a weird formula? 15:00:09 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause: nice "simplification" :P 15:00:30 <Celestar> 1/ln(x) 15:00:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it does have less operations :p 15:00:47 <Celestar> FEWER 15:00:50 <Celestar> not less 15:00:59 <Eddi|zuHause> whatever... 15:01:01 <TrueBrain> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection 15:01:16 <Celestar> :P 15:01:44 <Celestar> TrueBrain: why do you need it simplified? 15:01:59 <Celestar> the FPU will be happy with it 15:02:46 <Celestar> hm.. 15:02:52 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 15:03:02 <Celestar> isn't ln(tan(x) + sec(x)) something with the tanh ? 15:03:07 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: not the best projection i have seen 15:03:09 <Celestar> arctanh 15:03:14 <Celestar> I mean 15:03:24 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: have you seen google maps? :p 15:03:39 <TrueBrain> Celestar: arctanh, yes 15:03:49 <TrueBrain> arctanh(sin(x)) 15:03:50 <Celestar> TrueBrain: so there is your simplification? (= 15:03:53 <TrueBrain> but the page tells you that :p 15:03:56 <Celestar> it does? 15:04:00 <Celestar> I haven't looked at it (= 15:04:14 <Celestar> if the page says so, why are you asking in the first place :P 15:04:33 <SpComb> 16:38:15 < SpComb> I guess we should just go through our code and replace "Vector" with "const Vector&" everywhere 15:04:39 <TrueBrain> but 1 / arctanh(sin(x)) 15:04:43 <TrueBrain> I was hoping it was something simple :p 15:04:51 <TrueBrain> anyway .. arctanh is not in libm :( 15:04:57 <Celestar> it's not? :S 15:05:10 <Celestar> is sec part of libm? 15:06:07 <Eddi|zuHause> arctanh is a "simple" ln-expression 15:06:11 <Celestar> yes 15:06:20 <Celestar> 1/2 ln (1+x/1-x) or so 15:06:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and sec = 1/cos ;) 15:06:51 <TrueBrain> neither is 'ln' and 'sec' ... 15:07:07 <TrueBrain> (it is in the header, not in the library :s) 15:07:21 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? 15:07:37 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater51.hku.nl] has joined #openttd 15:07:40 <Celestar> wth? 15:07:46 <Celestar> bnah 15:07:49 <petern> Celestar: that's a link farm with no real relevence to the subject 15:08:02 <Celestar> petern: yeah, sorry. 15:08:02 <TrueBrain> ah, no, it is not in the header 15:08:10 <TrueBrain> the compiler was just not mentioning that warning .. 15:10:39 <Celestar> erm 15:10:47 <TrueBrain> grr 'log' is 'ln' .. why do people always mix that :( 15:10:57 <Celestar> why do I get asserts when trying to load an openttdcoop savegame in trunk? 15:11:10 <TrueBrain> lol 15:11:33 <Celestar> hm. 15:11:35 <Celestar> only MZ11 15:11:38 <Celestar> MZ10 works 15:12:36 <petern> if it's an early one it may be due to no grf list 15:15:35 <Celestar> especially I get pbs asserts O_o 15:19:27 <Rubidium> might be one of the savegame mistakes between 0.6 and current trunk 15:19:38 <Celestar> ok 15:19:50 <SpComb> ah well, it seems gcc is indeed smart enough to optimize all the Vector operations 15:20:15 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:21:02 <SpComb> based on this gprof stuff, 83.1% of execution time was spent generating the terrain, and, uh, 0.0% running the mainloop 15:21:13 <Celestar> based on the clock, I have to go 15:21:32 <SpComb> I guess that means that if the game still felt "laggy", it's because of the "physicsal" Graphics-drawing being slow? 15:22:07 <Celestar> Arrivederci 15:22:31 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:25:39 <TrueBrain> Okay, a Sinusoidal projection it will be for now .. the others just stink 15:25:45 <TrueBrain> now I am long overdue to do some shopping 15:25:46 <TrueBrain> bbl :p 15:28:20 <SpComb> although I guess the real reason is that it's not profiling time spent inside of ClanLib 15:29:21 *** Zorn [zorn@e177115004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:31:11 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:34:11 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm14.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:42:04 <petern> hmm, so, openttd s60 port? 15:44:56 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:45:10 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm14.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:45:17 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:52:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:54:01 <Belugas> yeah.... snaw is falling down down down down down 15:54:09 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:54:19 <Belugas> anything to boost my enthusiam 15:55:16 <Eddi|zuHause> # Oh Tannenbaum, oh Tannenbaum 15:55:25 <Eddi|zuHause> # Wie grÃŒn sind deine BlÀtter 15:55:30 <petern> hmm, this is quite slow :p 16:01:20 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:01:58 <TrueBrain> petern: what is the use porting it to such OSes? :) 16:02:45 <TrueBrain> "New version of FireFox has 'Porno' button" <- cool, when I hit it, it opens Porn for me? Now that is a useful feature :) 16:03:24 <Belugas> or it sends an email to Purno, since it was a typo... 16:03:57 <Belugas> i guess the port is because the gentleman has such a phone? 16:09:56 <petern> TrueBrain, well... it can be played on a phone :p 16:18:13 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:11 <Belugas> "Don't You fucking Know What You Are?" 16:22:36 <benjamingoodger> the porn button just disables logging 16:22:46 <benjamingoodger> it's a good example of firefox playing catch-up 16:23:26 * Sacro has plugins for such features alread 16:24:25 * benjamingoodger has a copy of safari that's had such a feature since the time of henry VIII 16:26:05 <petern> Belugas, good idea! 16:27:36 <Belugas> :D 16:34:03 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:38:15 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@bib-theater51.hku.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:05 *** mortal`` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:39:31 <petern> hmm 16:39:35 <petern> sounds poo :o 16:39:38 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 16:39:43 <petern> i guess it's converted the format 16:40:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:01 <Belugas> into methan! 16:41:14 <Belugas> +e (?) 16:45:04 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:24 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:52 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:47:43 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:48 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:53:38 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:39 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 16:54:05 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet573.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:53 <TrueBrain> whoho, I finally produces a relative correct image of what I want :) 16:57:56 * TrueBrain does a dance 16:59:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:59:07 <Belugas> Foxtrot? Samba? Chacha? 16:59:17 <TrueBrain> Wals 16:59:18 <TrueBrain> hmm .. 16:59:23 <TrueBrain> tomorrow I can do that again :) 16:59:27 <TrueBrain> makes me happy already :) 17:00:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.138] has joined #openttd 17:01:57 <TrueBrain> Presenting to you: The Netherlands: http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/mapgen/image010.png 17:02:14 <TrueBrain> (sorry about the size, I still need to downside it to 16 colour palette :)) 17:02:48 <Belugas> it's a lie! 17:03:03 <Belugas> you should have land below sea level!! 17:03:09 <TrueBrain> the cake was 17:04:03 <TrueBrain> Belugas: there is :) Just it is painted green :p 17:04:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc762.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 17:06:12 <TrueBrain> time to make some food now :) 17:09:35 <Belugas> :) 17:09:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD79.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:15 <Belugas> grrrr... can't recall how i did it that svn was able to find the ssl tunnel on my old machine 17:16:22 * Belugas starts digging up the corpse 17:19:29 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:54 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:12 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0CB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:32 *** Yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:18 <Yorick> m, I don't remember Ameland having a giant circle on the western shore... 17:38:32 *** rubyruy [~ruy@128.189.215.158] has joined #openttd 17:40:38 <glx> Belugas: documents and settings\<user>\application data\subversion\config 17:40:55 <glx> ssh=plink in [tunnels] 17:41:48 *** sliderman [~moshe@77.126.140.73] has joined #openttd 17:41:52 <sliderman> yahhhh 17:42:01 <sliderman> finnaly 17:44:37 *** sliderman is now known as SliderMan 17:44:40 *** SliderMan is now known as Moshe 17:47:44 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 18:00:25 <petern> hmm, gps in this phone... 18:00:32 <petern> average speed home, 18.4 km/h 18:00:38 <petern> max, 45.8 km/h 18:01:17 <Belugas> indeed... thanks glx 18:03:12 <Belugas> mmh. 18:03:14 <Belugas> nope 18:03:25 <Belugas> must need something else 18:03:29 <Belugas> will wait to get home 18:03:48 <glx> do you have plink? 18:05:56 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm14.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:07:39 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 18:08:18 *** rubyruy [~ruy@128.189.215.158] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 18:09:22 <Belugas> yup 18:09:26 <Belugas> i think 18:09:29 <Belugas> i'll check again 18:09:42 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:10:52 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that image looks more like the former province "Holland"; you seem to be missing quite a bit to the east 18:12:42 *** grumbel [~grumbel@i577AC19D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:19:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:19:29 <Wolf01> hello 18:20:37 *** seba- [seba@84-255-203-82.static.t-2.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:45 <seba-> in YAPF how do you highlight the path? 18:21:00 <seba-> i mean 18:21:06 <seba-> that 'show reserved tracks' 18:21:09 <seba-> what does it do? 18:21:26 <Belugas> no putty installed 18:21:35 <Belugas> so .. fetcfh it 18:21:35 <glx> that explains :) 18:21:40 <Belugas> yup 18:22:34 <seba-> do i need to press something or how do i see it? 18:22:38 <frosch123> seba-: if you mean yapp :p go to "advanced settings" and then - I suppose - "interface" 18:22:45 <seba-> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/images/8/87/Yapp_patch-options.png 18:22:47 <seba-> this 18:22:50 <seba-> i've put this to on 18:22:55 <seba-> but i don't see what happens 18:23:23 <glx> are you using PBS signals? 18:23:28 <seba-> yes 18:23:33 <frosch123> do you use normal rail 18:23:47 <frosch123> or something weird like monorail, maglev, or some newgrf? 18:24:18 <seba-> maglev 18:24:51 <frosch123> well, then you have to look a little closer, as it might hide in the shadows 18:25:02 <glx> it's quite impossible to see reservation on maglev 18:25:07 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.16.188.209.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:25:28 *** mortal`` is now known as mortal 18:25:35 <seba-> oh 18:26:16 <seba-> i see it now on rails 18:26:18 <seba-> interesting 18:26:57 <seba-> why does it so suck on maglev 18:26:58 <seba-> :( 18:27:10 <glx> maglev tracks suck 18:27:25 <seba-> hm i've set to path_backoff_interval = 10 works better 18:27:30 <seba-> but maglev is the future 18:32:00 *** Yorick is now known as Guest503 18:32:11 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 18:32:42 <frosch123> hehe, yes, you can only see the reserved maglev track if you build two tracks next to each other and compare them 18:33:48 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:34:06 *** rubyruy [~ruy@128.189.215.158] has joined #openttd 18:34:54 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:36:40 *** Guest503 [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:36:40 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.16.200.109.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 18:40:47 *** Moshe- [~moshe@89.1.81.153.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #openttd 18:41:25 <Belugas> getting close to it 18:45:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14665 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-12-09 18:44:40 18:45:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 301 fixed by khaloofah (301) 18:45:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: esperanto - 64 fixed, 2 changed by alekcxjo (66) 18:45:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 430 fixed by moshe (430) 18:45:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 10 changed by alyr (9), oklmernok (1) 18:45:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 49 fixed, 4 changed by fanioz (40), anansboga (13) 18:46:44 *** Moshe [~moshe@77.126.140.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:47:27 *** seba- [seba@84-255-203-82.static.t-2.net] has quit [Quit: iix; With a iix here and a iix there, here a iix there a iix everywhere a iix] 19:00:59 <Belugas> youhou 19:01:06 <Belugas> there is svn up on this machine! 19:03:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-148-143.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:37 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:09:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:09:41 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:43 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:12:14 *** ronni [~ronni_hug@104-168-dsl.flatrate.fo] has joined #openttd 19:17:50 *** ronni [~ronni_hug@104-168-dsl.flatrate.fo] has quit [] 19:21:54 *** rubyruy [~ruy@128.189.215.158] has quit [Quit: rubyruy] 19:22:23 <Belugas> Jingle hell Jingle hell 19:22:37 <Belugas> snowing all the way 19:22:51 <Belugas> j'en ai eu pis j'en veux pus 19:23:03 <Belugas> pis fourre toi les dans l'cul 19:23:28 <benjamingoodger> Belugas: will you please courier me some of your snow? 19:24:38 <Belugas> if only i could... 19:25:11 <SmatZ> :) 19:25:31 <Eddi|zuHause> poor benjamingoodger has not seen snow his entire life 19:25:43 <benjamingoodger> not quite 19:25:53 <benjamingoodger> there was a tiny, tiny amount in 2005 19:25:57 <glx> we had snow today 19:26:09 <benjamingoodger> also, I went to finland for christmas 2007 19:26:32 <Brianetta> I went to Berlin 19:26:45 <Brianetta> It snowed there 19:26:48 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 19:27:29 <Belugas> it's like a beach by the ocean 19:27:42 <Belugas> if you're born near it, you would not really enjoy it 19:28:04 <Belugas> but if you're on a country like ours, you'll crave for it 19:28:13 <Eddi|zuHause> you only want what you don't have 19:28:18 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the nature of things 19:28:39 <benjamingoodger> hmm 19:28:51 <benjamingoodger> you're right about the beaches 19:30:02 <benjamingoodger> the nearest beach is 7750 metres away 19:30:31 <benjamingoodger> due directly west is a surfing beach, 29 km 19:30:58 <benjamingoodger> and I hate beaches 19:32:17 <Belugas> i love them soooo much... I even have a big picture of one on one of my walls at home 19:32:28 <Belugas> but...as a diver, i thnk it's quite understandable ;) 19:32:34 <benjamingoodger> well, you're welcome to come and use my beach ¬.¬ 19:33:15 <benjamingoodger> which of them would you like? the one covered with dog excretia, the one composed of pebbles, or the one with annoying american surfers crammed into it? 19:35:26 <TrueBrain> [19:11] <Rubidium> TrueBrain: that image looks more like the former province "Holland"; you seem to be missing quite a bit to the east <- I entered some random coordinates :p 19:35:46 <TrueBrain> it should show .. 51N - 54N and 3.26E - 6.26E 19:36:04 <Belugas> you know, as long as the access to the water is possible, i would not mind at all. I even dive under ice... so ... 19:36:25 <benjamingoodger> well, there's no ice around here 19:36:55 <benjamingoodger> oh well 19:50:01 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 19:51:49 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:59 *** Sebbe [Sebbe@x1-6-00-16-41-59-ea-88.k332.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:32 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.16.200.109.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:49 <TrueBrain> 2 years ago I wrote a 10 line comment to a single line 19:53:56 <TrueBrain> I have absolutely no clue what so ever what I tried to explain there 19:54:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E247.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:55:30 <Eddi|zuHause> lmao ;) 19:55:49 <frosch123> as long as the line of code is obvious :) 19:57:35 <benjamingoodger> indeed.. 19:57:57 <TrueBrain> nope 19:57:58 <TrueBrain> not a clue :) 19:58:08 <TrueBrain> I think it is something very clever 19:58:22 <benjamingoodger> what is the line? 19:58:30 <frosch123> yup, you was quite clever back then :p 20:01:19 <TrueBrain> scale = closestPowerOfTwo(scale); 20:01:19 <TrueBrain> small = (large + scale - 1) / scale; 20:01:19 <TrueBrain> large = small * scale; 20:01:23 <TrueBrain> it is about those 3 lines 20:01:54 <Moshe-> debug em with break points =) 20:02:04 <TrueBrain> the first functions finds the biggest power of two which fits inside the value 20:02:10 <TrueBrain> so '3' returns '2' 20:02:14 <TrueBrain> '15' returns '8' 20:02:29 <benjamingoodger> duh... :P 20:02:35 <TrueBrain> I think you missed a part of the conversation, but good for you 20:04:29 <TrueBrain> scale = large / small; btw 20:05:36 <benjamingoodger> bbl 20:05:40 *** benjamingoodger [~ben@host81-153-83-31.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 20:05:57 <TrueBrain> oh, who cares, it works ... :p 20:06:37 <frosch123> [21:06] <TrueBrain> scale = large / small; btw <- before the other stuff? 20:07:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43482.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:07:26 <TrueBrain> of course 20:07:53 <Moshe-> why is the hebrew font SO small? 20:08:06 <Moshe-> i cant even read what its says lol 20:08:15 <TrueBrain> make it bigger 20:08:19 <yorick> me stumbled upon youtube christians that try to say atheism is not true, but fail :) 20:08:32 <Moshe-> TrueBrain how do you make it bigger? 20:10:28 <yorick> openttd.cfg 20:11:44 <Moshe-> thanks 20:12:40 <Moshe-> wierd i dont have that file.. 20:12:55 <TrueBrain> Use The Fucking Search Luke 20:13:04 *** yorick is now known as Guest518 20:13:10 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:33 <Wolf01> TrueBrain "search the lucky fuck Luke!" 20:16:59 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet573.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:17:22 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:40 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 20:17:48 <Wolf01> hi 20:17:53 <TrueBrain> hi Nite_Owl :) 20:18:19 <SmatZ> hello 20:18:35 *** Guest518 [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:36 <TrueBrain> what a warm welcome :) 20:19:00 <Nite_Owl> Really - I am most flattered 20:19:27 <Nite_Owl> then again timing is everything 20:19:29 <TrueBrain> you should 20:21:44 <Nite_Owl> I guess I just caught you all in a welcoming mood at that moment 20:22:43 <TrueBrain> yeah .. when you try it again, you most likely fail :p 20:22:44 <TrueBrain> mwhahahaha 20:23:50 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:24:14 *** lolman_ [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:26:59 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 20:31:11 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:31:45 *** Moshe- [~moshe@89.1.81.153.dynamic.barak-online.net] has left #openttd [] 20:31:46 *** Moshe- [~moshe@89.1.81.153.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:48 <Moshe-> hello. 20:31:52 <Moshe-> =) 20:31:54 <SmatZ> hello 20:32:07 <Moshe-> :P 20:32:10 <Nite_Owl> Hello Moshe 20:32:26 <Moshe-> i get some too nite 20:32:29 <Moshe-> =) 20:32:45 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:35 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:47:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-36-132.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:58:14 *** benjamingoodger [~ben@host81-153-83-31.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:03:33 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:05:00 *** Moshe [~chatzilla@89.1.81.153.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:33 *** Moshe- [~moshe@89.1.81.153.dynamic.barak-online.net] has quit [Quit: MULEz SCRIPT: Cause its a jungle out there] 21:19:00 <TrueBrain> finally my correction and prediction algorithms work as I want them to :) 21:19:18 <benjamingoodger> hurrah! 21:19:47 * benjamingoodger wonders if anyone has considered writing a book on openttd 21:20:03 <benjamingoodger> like a prima guide, but... not prima... 21:22:33 <TrueBrain> lol .. like that is possible for OpenTTD :p 21:22:58 <benjamingoodger> yes, I was thinking that 21:25:14 <Sacro> 21:24 < ushdf> have they ported khtml or webkit to linux 21:25:44 <Rubidium> no, they have been to lazy to port it to linux 21:26:08 <Sacro> haha 21:26:12 <TrueBrain> haha :) Now that is a stupid question :) 21:26:41 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.16.163.33.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 21:28:23 <frosch123> benjamingoodger: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=openttd 21:28:49 <TrueBrain> "eyes-open, TTD " 21:28:50 <TrueBrain> stupid google 21:28:59 <benjamingoodger> heh 21:29:15 <benjamingoodger> Sacro: what room was that in? 21:29:43 <Sacro> benjamingoodger: #archlinux on freenode 21:29:53 * benjamingoodger buries face in hands 21:30:12 * benjamingoodger smacks head on desk 21:30:29 <benjamingoodger> ...anyway 21:30:41 <TrueBrain> does freenode still exists? 21:30:46 <benjamingoodger> oh yes 21:30:49 <benjamingoodger> *rearranges hair* so no books on openttd planned then 21:32:42 <Sacro> hmm, this opengl is confusing me 21:32:55 <Sacro> when I resize the window, ones that use height/width stay the same 21:33:03 <TrueBrain> as it should :p 21:33:31 <Sacro> but then ones that use glVertex2f(100,100) get bigger/smaller 21:34:11 <glx> scale probably changes 21:34:14 <Sacro> Yeah :\ 21:35:07 <Sacro> Gl.glOrtho(0, widthIn, 0, heightIn, -1.0f, 1.0f); 21:37:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.171.135] has joined #openttd 21:42:07 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Zzzz...] 21:42:59 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.182.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:26 <Belugas> this is the end of the DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY 21:58:28 <Belugas> !! 22:00:45 <benjamingoodger> it's the end of the world as we know it 22:01:27 <benjamingoodger> it's the end of the world as we know it... 22:01:35 <benjamingoodger> it's the end of the world as we know it! 22:01:38 <benjamingoodger> and I feel fine. 22:06:43 <TrueBrain> bah, it annoys me when you have a melody in your head, and can't find the music .. 22:07:54 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc762.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:56 <TrueBrain> lol, found it .. it turns out to be a song a friend of mine wrote .. clearly a catchy tune :p 22:22:17 *** juval [Juval@host243-135.mteabkund.se] has joined #openttd 22:22:54 <juval> Can you still play this game online? 22:24:00 <TrueBrain> How tempting to say: no, we removed that feature; of course you can. 22:24:27 <juval> haha ok i would like to but i don't know how really 22:24:43 <TrueBrain> go to http://wiki.openttd.org and read all about it :) 22:25:06 <juval> ok 22:32:28 <RvGaTe> juval, simple really... install it, run it.. go to multiplayer, find a server, join it.. start playing :) 22:34:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.171.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:36:06 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:38:11 <juval> yes but i cant fins and servers? nothing comes up does this mean that there is no games running at the moment 22:39:19 *** juval [Juval@host243-135.mteabkund.se] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:39:43 *** juval [juval@host243-135.mteabkund.se] has joined #openttd 22:39:45 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:45 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:40:04 <ccfreak2k> It probably means the game listing server can't be reached. 22:40:33 <juval> haha ok and is there a way to come around this? 22:47:00 <glx> "connection" drop down is set to "internet" ? 22:53:49 <juval> uhmm? where do i set this? 22:54:08 <glx> it's on top of the multiplayer window 22:54:21 <juval> ok 22:54:57 <juval> aha ok yes it was internet lol 22:55:30 <juval> are there any other things i do outside the game to make it work? 22:55:32 <glx> so something drops UDP packets between you and master server 22:56:34 <Eddi|zuHause> is "lol" now an interpunctation mark? 22:57:59 <lolman> No, it's half a name :) 22:58:26 <benjamingoodger> :D 22:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, so he just mistabbed 22:58:41 <Eddi|zuHause> then he shall be forgiven 22:58:46 <juval> :p 22:58:55 <benjamingoodger> "innit" is an acceptable interpunctuation in some parts of england, also 22:59:04 <lolman> Eddi|zuHause, well, that was no mistab, unfortunately 22:59:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i was being ironic... 22:59:21 <benjamingoodger> this is committed by people known as "scum" 22:59:33 <juval> aah thank you.. 22:59:40 <benjamingoodger> I mean innit, not lol 22:59:44 <lolman> benjamingoodger, also known as "chavs"? 22:59:49 <benjamingoodger> indeeed 22:59:50 <juval> aha haha 22:59:52 <Prof_Frink> twunts. 22:59:53 <benjamingoodger> people who say lol intermittently are merely annoying 23:00:18 <benjamingoodger> I have some friends who use only commas and "lol" 23:00:24 <Brianetta> I probably shouldn't post to the forum when I'm in a shitty mood. 23:00:27 <benjamingoodger> and manage to form perfectly coherent sentences 23:00:38 <lolman> Brianetta, yeah, not a good move, really :-\ 23:00:39 <benjamingoodger> Brianetta: oh, no, go on... it'll be funny to read 23:00:42 <Eddi|zuHause> s/when.*$// 23:00:48 <Brianetta> I found myself back-spacing "you're all idiots." 23:00:54 <benjamingoodger> :) 23:01:56 <lolman> Brianetta, it's good to vent, sometimes...somewhere noone else can see 23:04:11 <Brianetta> Meh. I stand by everything I said. 23:04:26 <lolman> Hehe 23:04:50 <Brianetta> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=40175&p=749489#p749489 23:05:08 <Brianetta> This one's actually amusing to me, after I thought it was just needlessly sarcastic. 23:05:34 <Brianetta> Perhaps there was a need for sarcasm. 23:06:01 <lolman> Sarcasm is often a good way of making people feel stupid ;) 23:06:02 <Brianetta> The Cargodest project has been irritating me for ages. 23:06:35 <Brianetta> So, my little rant at having to set every single bleeding station up with its own order might be justified. 23:06:48 <Brianetta> Especially when some idiot suggests that it's not an issue because you can clone orders. 23:07:10 *** juval [juval@host243-135.mteabkund.se] has left #openttd [] 23:07:21 <lolman> Yeah Heh 23:07:35 <Brianetta> <--- Is that the point? . 23:07:35 * lolman curses himself for not removing first word of that sentence 23:07:40 <Brianetta> No it's over there to the right. 23:07:42 <Brianetta> You missed it. 23:13:05 <Wolf01> 'night 23:13:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:14:02 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 23:15:19 <welshdragon> Brianetta, i like your constructive sarcasm 23:15:30 <welshdragon> (in that link posted earlier) 23:15:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:17:22 <benjamingoodger> :) 23:18:04 <Brianetta> I think DaleStan inspires me. 23:24:39 <TrueBrain> that is scary 23:27:53 <lolman> What, Brianetta or the fact he's inspired by DaleStan? 23:28:11 <DaleStan> Yes. 23:28:24 <Brianetta> Logical. 23:28:41 <DaleStan> But probably more the latter than the former. 23:29:37 <Brianetta> DaleStan: There are times when I wholly disagree with the content of your posts, but find them so well put that I choose not to care. (: 23:30:17 <TrueBrain> Glad you know yourself well enough to establish that fact ;) 23:32:00 <lolman> Hmm, *wonders how much stuff he'll need for a 5 day trip away* 23:33:00 <Nite_Owl> The DaleStan quote "an apostrophe does not mean 'look out here comes an s'" made me double over with laughter 23:34:23 <Brianetta> It's making me snigger now 23:40:33 <SpComb> What's the difference between a duck? 23:40:50 <TrueBrain> One of his legs is of equal length 23:42:10 <glx> hmm I know this one in french 23:42:43 <TrueBrain> I only in Dutch :) 23:45:30 <TrueBrain> lovely Apple with their iPhone .. a webapp inside Safire can use the orientation change ... a webapp as standalone app can't 23:45:31 <TrueBrain> whoho! 23:46:15 <Moshe> '×' 23:46:22 <Moshe> wow this channel is really talk active 23:46:24 <Moshe> lmao 23:50:41 <benjamingoodger> 0.0 23:50:49 <Moshe> ah 23:50:55 <Moshe> not really anymore huh? 23:51:02 <Moshe> i gotta find someone to talk to 23:55:46 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@e179052098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 23:56:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD79.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD79.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:58:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BD79.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]