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08:17:52 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d86a67d.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 08:17:55 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 08:18:57 <Celestar> \o 08:19:02 <dihedral> hey ho 08:19:50 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.17.160.135.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 08:23:00 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-work 08:27:04 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 08:29:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.171.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:09:54 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@mnch-5d86a67d.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:11 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 09:36:35 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:36:57 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 09:36:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 09:36:59 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:42:03 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:36 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-201.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:45:24 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has joined #openttd 09:51:01 *** paul_ [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:51:23 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:52:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm26.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:08:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81525.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:10:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:11:34 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:36:12 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:43:39 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has joined #openttd 10:45:35 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: i read from your statement "you shouldn't trust yorick further than you can kick him" :p 10:47:22 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:52:55 <dihedral> hihi :-) 10:52:58 <dihedral> nice one Eddi|zuHause 10:57:01 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:51 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:01:11 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:01:45 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:27 <Celestar> Rubidium: I hope there won't be another savegame revision bump between now and cargodest merge :P 11:06:28 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:08:05 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:08:08 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 11:08:09 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 11:08:48 * Celestar ponders "how far can one kick yorick?" 11:09:32 <Forked> south park flashback to "kick the baby".. 11:09:54 * Eddi|zuHause ponders buying an external HD 11:12:00 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:26:21 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:36:27 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179204196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:39:56 <Celestar> Forked: never really watched South Park 11:39:59 <Celestar> only once or twice 11:40:05 <Celestar> and it sucks in the dubbed version 11:43:20 <Forked> everything sucks in a dubbed version :) 11:43:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i wouldn't say that... 11:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> but i would agree that there are more bad examples than good ones :) 11:44:21 <TrueBrain> hmm .. sucking ... 11:44:27 <TrueBrain> oh, wait, did I say that out loud? 11:44:28 <Forked> luckily I don't live in a land of dub-all :) 11:45:53 <TrueBrain> like Germany .. bleg! 11:47:06 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 11:56:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:09:05 <TrueBrain> sjoep sjoep sjoep 12:09:06 <TrueBrain> lalalalala 12:19:00 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm26.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:26:14 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.17.160.135.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:27:05 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-201.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 12:40:01 <dihedral> nininininini 12:46:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.171.135] has joined #openttd 12:47:18 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 12:51:33 <Celestar> doremifasolasido 12:53:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:11 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23:52 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:39 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:33:29 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-21-108.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:24 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 13:36:31 <Celestar> It costs 2 million dollars to move a Shuttle from Edwards AFB to KSC 13:36:32 <Celestar> O_o 13:36:57 <Celestar> and there mustn't be rain, snow, hail, temperatures below 15F or pressures below 8psi. 13:37:18 * Celestar wonders why a SPACECRAFT cannot go below 8psi. 13:37:26 <Celestar> that somehow defeats the purpose 13:41:44 <Rubidium> maybe the tires aren't warm enough to handle the pressure difference ;) 13:41:56 <Celestar> possibly 13:42:09 * Celestar is looking forward to seeing the shuttle mothballed 13:42:15 <dihedral> they could just fly it there :-P 13:42:21 <Celestar> dihedral: how? :P 13:42:24 <Celestar> dihedral: there's no tank :P 13:45:32 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 13:45:51 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [] 13:46:20 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 13:46:32 <Rubidium> Celestar: they fly the shuttle to KSC, right? 13:46:53 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-143-232.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:47:31 <Rubidium> at least http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Atlantis_on_Shuttle_Carrier_Aircraft.jpg makes me believe that 13:47:35 <Celestar> yes 13:47:43 <Celestar> Rubidium: I mean the shuttle can't fly itself (= 13:50:11 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-177-145.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 13:50:36 <Rubidium> that shuttle can land at quite a lot of locations 13:52:51 <dihedral> Celestar, a huge rubber band and catapult it into the air :P 13:57:16 <Celestar> :P 13:57:30 * Celestar wonders how to teach kontact/kde to accept some CA. 14:05:03 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:06:31 <petern> there's no central certificate thingy, unlike windows :o 14:06:39 <petern> and even firefox on windows uses its own 14:07:23 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet527.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:08:05 <Celestar> petern: KDE has a central one 14:12:34 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 14:13:53 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:15:54 <Celestar> petern: I can also import the CA. 14:16:08 <Celestar> petern: I just seem unable to set its trust level for some reason 14:16:36 <petern> ah 14:43:57 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:45:05 <Celestar> got it :) 14:45:59 <Celestar> back later 14:46:00 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:51:43 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccd9.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:52:33 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:33 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 15:01:48 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81525.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 15:02:06 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.17.60.247.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 15:04:22 *** Moshe [~chatzilla@93-172-204-184.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #openttd 15:09:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:19 <Moshe> hello all 15:23:41 <yorick> hello 15:25:59 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:29 *** Zorni [zorn@e177231235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:34:54 *** Zorn [zorn@e177115004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:42 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 15:40:28 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:42:16 <petern> bah, no network support in the s60 port :o 15:43:01 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:43:19 <blathijs> Oeh, there is an S60 port? 15:43:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:16 <petern> unofficial of course 15:46:09 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-25-3.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:25 <blathijs> If only I had the time to make an official port out of that :-) 15:47:41 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:51 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.17.60.247.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:14 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:20:12 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:09 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@192.87.217.56] has quit [Quit: COCKBUSTER SLEEP MODE] 16:41:04 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DE1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:13 <fjb> Hello 16:43:44 <FauxFaux> bjf 16:44:07 <fjb> :-P 16:49:45 <SmatZ> hello 16:52:48 <George_> Belugas: And how can I define more than 256 houses per GRF? 16:54:42 <George_> Belugas: Many houses on one slot - I mean one house, which can have different view selected randomly or with a rule. If there would be population callback, than that would be great :) 17:00:58 <glx> I think you do it like you define other houses 17:02:11 <glx> just take care to disable the "extra" houses for ttdpatch 17:04:44 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:38 <yorick> how to generate diff files from hg builds without clear revision history? 17:08:44 <yorick> (cargodest for example) 17:10:16 <yorick> (need to exclude merges from trunk) 17:11:24 <SmatZ> yorick: you may try diff /openttd-cargodest /openttd-clean ... probably with some parameters - I don't know if there is any native hg way 17:11:59 <yorick> maybe outgoing to hg.openttd.org/trunk/openttd.hg/? 17:12:06 <glx> hg diff -r latest_merge 17:12:19 <yorick> glx: I have multiple merges 17:12:50 <yorick> and I only want to get the own piece 17:14:05 <yorick> yep, hg outgoing -p http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/ :) 17:15:25 *** rubyruy [~ruy@76-10-185-242.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 17:15:48 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@77.17.107.169.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 17:15:49 <yorick> m, no, there's like 1641 KB of diff 17:18:25 * yorick blinks 17:19:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm26.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 17:23:27 *** Reemo [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0CE43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:40 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 17:24:41 *** Lakie [~Lakie@80.247.163.109] has joined #openttd 17:26:16 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0CB08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:45 <yorick> ok, 206kb of diffs upon other diffs 17:30:10 *** fjb [~frank@p5485DE1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:41:44 <thingwath> KB, kb? what? 17:42:01 <SmatZ> kilobits 17:42:37 <SmatZ> as in, 206 000 bits, or 25 750 B 17:42:46 <thingwath> and KB? :-) 17:43:03 <glx> KB is not a unit 17:43:10 <SmatZ> http://www.kb.cz/ :) 17:43:48 <thingwath> 1641 of them? Oh. 17:44:07 <benjamingoodger> glx: yes it is, it's a byte-kelvin XD 17:46:35 <yorick> no, KiloByte :) 17:46:40 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: off for now] 17:46:41 *** Fantasya [~a@78.59.192.248] has quit [] 17:47:03 <glx> kilo is k not K 17:47:43 *** lobster_MB [~michielbr@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:47:44 <benjamingoodger> there is of course a KiB which is a kibibyte and does not involve the kilo prefix. 17:49:34 <thingwath> yep, but it is not K + iB, but Ki + B 17:50:30 <Prof_Frink> And there's KI, which is potassium iodide. 17:50:57 <SmatZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JEDEC_memory_standards for memories, KB means 1024 B 17:51:46 <SmatZ> "The quoted capacity of 3Âœ inch HD floppy disks is 1.44 MB, where MB stands for 1000 times 1024 bytes." I like this one :) 17:52:52 <glx> it's wrong 17:53:06 <thingwath> it's crazy 17:55:38 <SmatZ> @calc 1457664 / 1024 / 1000 17:55:38 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1.4235 17:55:41 <SmatZ> hmm 17:55:57 <SmatZ> ah, it's formatted capacity... 17:56:22 <glx> formatted its 1.38 17:56:36 <SmatZ> @calc 1457664 / 1024 / 1024 17:56:36 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1.39013671875 17:56:37 *** mortal`` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:57:16 <SmatZ> but it's possible (but unlikely in this case ;) I don't remember the size correctly 17:58:19 <Belugas> George_, your population callback... when would you think it should be triggered? 17:58:34 <Belugas> hey ! SmatZ!! 17:58:42 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:02 <George_> 1) when industry is build. 17:59:33 *** mortal`` is now known as mortal 17:59:37 <George_> 2) periodically (like every 256, 1024, or 65536 ticks) 17:59:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.166.77] has joined #openttd 18:00:58 <SmatZ> hello Mr. Belugas :) 18:03:50 *** vraa [~vraa@h81.229.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:52 <Belugas> when industry is built??? you mean"When house is built" right? 18:05:04 <Belugas> how's life SmatZ? 18:05:32 <SmatZ> Belugas: life is going very quickly, sadly :( no time for fun, anything :-x how are you, Belugas? :) 18:06:12 <Belugas> well... about the same as you ^_^ 18:06:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.171.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:30 <SmatZ> :) 18:06:42 <benjamingoodger> hello belugas, SmatZ 18:06:49 <SmatZ> hello benjamingoodger 18:07:18 <Belugas> hello ben :) 18:07:31 <benjamingoodger> is this the room for those who've lost interest in life? 18:07:50 <petern> no 18:08:12 <benjamingoodger> oh, hello petern 18:11:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:13:11 <Belugas> benjamingoodger, it's more the room for two kinds of people: those who are eagerly waiting some new features and those who cannot provide anything new since they are workers/students caugh up on a life franzy that does not seems to end 18:13:34 <Belugas> ho... and useless ghosts too ;) 18:13:38 <benjamingoodger> ah 18:14:17 <SmatZ> :) 18:18:39 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:54 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm26.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:28:24 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 18:29:53 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:30:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-148-143.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:32 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:42:17 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F00C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r14666 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2008-12-10 18:44:59 18:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 306 fixed by khaloofah (306) 18:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 419 fixed, 45 changed by moshe (458), ybungalobill (6) 18:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 changed by alyr (1) 18:45:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ido - 12 fixed by Cecile (12) 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 10 fixed by fanioz (10) 18:47:53 <welshdragon> hmm, i'll do some welsh translations over christmas 18:48:24 * welshdragon hasn't really got time / isn't in the right frame of mind 18:49:45 * benjamingoodger will eventually have civilised debate over welsh with welshdragon but also lacks the proper frame of mind 18:50:09 <welshdragon> benjamingoodger, indeed 18:53:08 <welshdragon> are you from wales? 18:53:34 <Belugas> i'm a whale! 18:53:58 <petern> welshdragon, he thinks anything besides english is pointless 18:54:16 <welshdragon> aah 18:54:36 *** welshdragon is now known as englishdragon 18:54:48 <englishdragon> :) 18:54:50 <petern> hehe 18:55:08 <lolman> englishdragon, You do realise that dragons get slayed in England? 18:55:23 <benjamingoodger> yes, and not put on our damned flag ¬.¬ 18:55:42 *** englishdragon is now known as englishlion 18:55:48 <englishlion> :P 18:55:51 <lolman> Only one? 18:55:51 <benjamingoodger> better 18:55:59 *** benjamingoodger is now known as englishliontamer 18:56:00 <petern> the one we're not allowed to call the union jack any more... 18:56:02 <englishlion> well, there's not 3 of me 18:56:10 *** englishliontamer is now known as benjamingoodger 18:56:16 <lolman> petern, unless it was at sea we can't call it that anyway 18:56:22 <benjamingoodger> petern: that's because it's called the union flag 18:56:44 <petern> allegedly 18:56:47 <petern> when i was at school 18:56:59 <petern> we all learnt it as union jack... 18:57:14 <benjamingoodger> yes, that's a common misconception 18:57:21 <benjamingoodger> a jack is a flag that flies on a ship 18:58:41 <petern> common as in... in the 1600s 18:59:38 <benjamingoodger> actually, the flag was last updated in 1801 19:00:15 <benjamingoodger> that was when we took over Ireland 19:00:43 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:01:03 <Wolf01> hello 19:01:05 <petern> last updated, maybe 19:01:15 <petern> it's still be called the union jack all that time 19:01:18 <petern> *been 19:01:47 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE22E44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:58 <benjamingoodger> no, it has always been the Union Flag 19:02:08 <benjamingoodger> and the Union Jack when flown on ships 19:02:21 <petern> wrong 19:02:27 <lolman> Correct 19:03:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:09:56 <petern> heh 19:10:04 <petern> it is a criminal offence to fly the union jack from a boat :D 19:10:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3774.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 19:13:41 <lolman> petern, if you're not in the Royal Navy 19:14:01 <petern> well yeah 19:19:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-27-148-143.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:20 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet527.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:11 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-14-64-108.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:39 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:36:24 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:37:24 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 19:41:51 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:43:45 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:59 *** Sebbe [Sebbe@x1-6-00-16-41-59-ea-88.k332.webspeed.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:58 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 19:47:41 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:52 *** englishlion is now known as welshdragon 19:55:58 <yorick> I stripped my 1604kb patch file a bit, it doesn't inlcude all recent trunk commits with diffs on eachother anymore 19:56:05 <yorick> ot's only 111kb 19:57:57 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0D90F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:58:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 19:58:08 <Celestar> \o 19:58:15 <yorick> hello Celestar :) 19:58:19 <Celestar> how's it yorick ? 19:58:41 <yorick> it's fine :) 19:58:50 *** Netsplit galapagos.oftc.net <-> cation.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, DASPRiD, lolman, PierreW, DephNet[Paul], stillunknown, Zealotus, Splex, DaleStan, Prof_Frink, (+50 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 19:58:55 *** Netsplit galapagos.oftc.net <-> cation.oftc.net quits: Tefad 19:59:07 <SmatZ> holy netsplit! 19:59:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: @Belugas, DaleStan, mikegrb, Wolf01, vraa, wgrant, Moshe, De_Ghosty, Gekz, ecke (+34 more) 19:59:12 <orudge> splat 19:59:15 <orudge> unsplat 19:59:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v Celestar] by ChanServ 19:59:30 <SmatZ> :) 19:59:32 <Celestar> heh 19:59:34 *** Netsplit over, joins: murr4y 19:59:34 <SmatZ> you fixed it :) 19:59:42 *** Netsplit over, joins: davis-, Prof_Frink, @petern, GoneWacko, FR^2, DephNet[Paul], Eddi|zuHause, Aali, +glx, Sionide (+6 more) 19:59:57 *** Netsplit galapagos.oftc.net <-> cation.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, DASPRiD, lolman, PierreW, DephNet[Paul], stillunknown, Zealotus, Splex, DaleStan, Prof_Frink, (+51 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 19:59:59 <yorick> netsplit is over 3 times now? 20:00:05 <Celestar> heh 20:00:10 <Celestar> different people rejoined... 20:00:17 <yorick> oh, it's back 20:00:47 * yorick feels lonely 20:00:55 <Celestar> are you ok? 20:01:02 *** Netsplit over, joins: @Belugas, DaleStan, mikegrb, Wolf01, vraa, wgrant, Moshe, De_Ghosty, Gekz, ecke (+9 more) 20:01:06 *** Netsplit over, joins: murr4y, George_, blathijs, Slowpoke, nekx, HerzogDeXtEr1, Reemo, DJNekkid, rubyruy, stillunknown (+16 more) 20:01:22 <yorick> I am never ok 20:01:56 *** Netsplit galapagos.oftc.net <-> cation.oftc.net quits: mikegrb, Splex, HerzogDeXtEr1, izhirahider, eQualizer, +michi_cc, rubyruy, Gekz, stillunknown, Tefad, (+35 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:02:10 <yorick> :D 20:02:12 *** Netsplit over, joins: George_, blathijs, Slowpoke, nekx, HerzogDeXtEr1, Reemo, DJNekkid, rubyruy, stillunknown, dfox (+15 more) 20:02:16 *** Netsplit over, joins: Wolf01, vraa, wgrant, Moshe, De_Ghosty, Gekz, ecke, Ridayah, snorre, Splex (+9 more) 20:02:19 <welshdragon> holyshit 20:02:24 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F00C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-25-3.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee24.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** DASPRiD [~dasprid@dasprids.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** petern [~petern@84.246.155.74] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** PierreW [~ttdopen@pierrew.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** Kloopy_ [kloopy@kloopy.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** archjb [arcane@gurumeditation.68k.no] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-45-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:02:24 *** ServerMode/#openttd [+vov glx petern petern] by reticulum.oftc.net 20:02:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: murr4y 20:03:35 <yorick> Celestar: http://paste.openttd.org/177480 <-- it's some feeder share fix :) 20:05:12 <Celestar> yorick: what does it do? 20:05:56 <yorick> it stores the amount of squares ^ 2 / the amount of time for each vehicle on the cargopacket 20:06:14 <yorick> to destribute the feeder shares more equally 20:08:08 <Celestar> I will have a look at it, but not today. Still work remaining and headlines coming up 20:08:13 <Celestar> deadlines* 20:10:41 <Celestar> something like that should definitly go in v2 of cargodest 20:11:39 <yorick> it should go into trunk :P 20:12:36 <Celestar> that is Rubidium's call (U= 20:12:37 <Celestar> (=* 20:15:05 <Celestar> hm .. it looks rather clean at first glace 20:16:12 <Celestar> I'm just wondering about the performance (loops) 20:17:07 <Celestar> did you do a profile run? 20:17:10 <Celestar> meh 20:17:15 <Celestar> I gotta go (dinner time) 20:17:17 <Celestar> CU later 20:17:19 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@p5B0D90F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:24:30 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:06 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h66.69.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 20:32:39 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:34:49 *** vraa [~vraa@h81.229.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:21 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:40:40 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:42:46 *** wgrant [~wgrant@c122-108-27-22.eburwd9.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 20:43:50 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host86-150-1-27.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:43:57 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:46:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:48:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-142-234.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:01:08 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-60-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:01:24 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:03:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:38 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:10:04 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:10 <TrueBrain> hi Nite_Owl 21:10:30 <Nite_Owl> Hello TrueBrain 21:12:57 <TrueBrain> "Men and fathers don't know much about raising children" 21:13:02 <TrueBrain> that is what a newspaper here says 21:13:16 <TrueBrain> I wonder ... if someone becomes a father, he no longer belongs under the catagory men? Kind of cruwl .. 21:13:29 <TrueBrain> then in the article you read: "Women and mothers ..." 21:14:46 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:10 *** Tvistamx [48cf149f@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:17:12 <Tvistamx> For example, nniigggeerrss and humans may have evolved from a common ancestor. Those that left Africa grew into modern humans with low aggression and large cranial capacities. Those that remained devolved into retarded ape human hybrids. Join us at chimpout.com. http://www.chimpout.com For more info, ask in our Guest Forum. 21:17:32 <TrueBrain> @kban Tvistamx goodbye 21:17:32 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!48cf149f@webchat.mibbit.com] by DorpsGek 21:17:33 *** Tvistamx was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [goodbye] 21:18:04 *** KillaloT [~killalot@0x5738ccd9.rdnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:30 <TrueBrain> bunch of boring people here :p 21:19:32 *** TrueBrain was kicked from #openttd by petern [cock] 21:19:45 *** TrueBrain [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 21:19:47 <petern> :D 21:19:49 <TrueBrain> petern: excuse me? 21:19:53 <yorick> chimpout spam :D 21:20:14 *** yorick was kicked from #openttd by petern [cockcock] 21:20:20 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 21:20:23 <petern> :D 21:20:24 <yorick> petern: excuse me? 21:20:30 <TrueBrain> I think somsone has a cock fetish .. 21:20:34 <petern> Sacro! 21:20:46 <yorick> what have you drunk now? 21:21:00 <TrueBrain> I suspect more he took some kind of weird looking pill 21:21:15 <petern> nothing :( 21:21:29 <ecke> does anybody have logitech g9? 21:22:07 <TrueBrain> that mouse looks so ugly! 21:23:22 <ecke> doesnt matter 21:23:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:45 <TrueBrain> it was more that I was very suprised that was possible :) 21:23:48 * yorick doesn't like mice at all 21:24:43 <Sacro> yes petern ? 21:25:08 *** Quaver [spirit@azrael.silverfang.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:49 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:30:17 <Belugas> mmh 21:30:50 <Belugas> prop is passed to town houses as int 21:30:56 <Belugas> not byte 21:30:57 <Belugas> so... 21:35:16 <frosch123> so tea makes you erupt bunches of newgrf stuff instead of other gaga 21:36:26 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:57 <Belugas> hehe instead of coffee, indeed ;) 21:41:45 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:43:49 <petern> errr, cold suddenly 21:43:52 <petern> shivering :o 21:44:34 *** davis- [~suckyours@p5B28F00C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3774.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 21:52:04 <TrueBrain> pompiedom 21:53:42 <petern> quite 21:54:49 <TrueBrain> bored to the ground and back 21:55:03 <TrueBrain> I guess I should be doing something useful instead 21:56:11 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:15 <Wolf01> update the pocketpc patch 21:56:23 <benjamingoodger> TrueBrain: think of a tagline for my publishing company ¬.¬ 21:56:24 <TrueBrain> I no longer have a PocketPC 21:56:27 *** Mark [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 21:56:30 <TrueBrain> "Just buy it" 21:56:30 *** Mark is now known as M4rk 21:56:31 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 21:56:40 <TrueBrain> and playing OpenTTD on such low resolutions is just silly in my opinion .. 21:56:49 <TrueBrain> below 640x400, it is kind of unplayable 21:57:06 <Wolf01> I have it, I can do test 21:57:41 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:58:05 <TrueBrain> btw, benjamingoodger, if you use that phrase above, I expect at least 2% of your netto profit 21:58:29 <benjamingoodger> netto indeed 21:58:47 <Wolf01> 'night 21:58:53 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:59:14 <TrueBrain> (it is in general very impossible to give someone of the netto profit ... as that means it wasn't netto afterall :p) 21:59:50 <benjamingoodger> it's "net" 22:00:18 <benjamingoodger> netto is a long-dead supermarket 22:00:38 <TrueBrain> failure in translation 22:00:38 <benjamingoodger> but don't worry, I'm not going to use your tagline 22:00:40 <TrueBrain> can't help that :) 22:01:08 <TrueBrain> why did I already seen all the good movies :( 22:02:47 <TrueBrain> petern: tell us a funny story 22:03:35 <petern> once upon a time there was an englishman, an irishman, a scotsman, and a welshdragon 22:04:26 <Prof_Frink> Did they walk into a bar? 22:04:28 <Belugas> they all went to a pub, ordered some beers, and suddenly, they could understand each other! 22:04:33 * benjamingoodger is sceptical 22:04:42 <Belugas> shit... he stole my punch line :S 22:04:55 <TrueBrain> you guys are mean! 22:05:01 <benjamingoodger> the UK is the most tolerant society in the history of the world 22:05:06 <benjamingoodger> the Irish hate the English 22:05:10 <Belugas> TrueBrain, i might have a good job for you :) 22:05:11 <benjamingoodger> the Scots hate the English 22:05:16 <TrueBrain> Belugas: do tell 22:05:18 <benjamingoodger> the Welsh especially hate the English 22:05:28 <benjamingoodger> the English hate most of the English 22:05:33 <Belugas> teach benjamingoodger more emoticons then the only one he knows already!! 22:05:48 <benjamingoodger> 0.o 22:05:49 <TrueBrain> Belugas: that is indeed a fulltime job 22:05:53 <TrueBrain> sorry, I pass 22:05:58 <benjamingoodger> so, overall, the fact that we can all put up with each other makes us extremely toleran 22:06:09 <TrueBrain> no, it makes you stupid 22:06:13 <TrueBrain> a whole different thing 22:06:20 <Prof_Frink> benjamingoodger: There's a simple reason for it. 22:06:28 <Prof_Frink> We all hate the French. 22:06:34 <benjamingoodger> aha! 22:06:36 <TrueBrain> hahahahaha 22:06:36 * benjamingoodger nods 22:06:38 <welshdragon> and we are all behind computers 22:06:39 <TrueBrain> good point Prof_Frink :) 22:06:46 <welshdragon> not sat next to each other :) 22:07:08 <welshdragon> Prof_Frink, take that back, about the french 22:07:19 <welshdragon> there are some nice ones 22:07:20 <TrueBrain> French people suck; glx is the exception 22:07:31 <glx> thx 22:07:35 <benjamingoodger> they do have a very nice road to Spain 22:07:36 <TrueBrain> yw 22:07:53 <welshdragon> but then there are the nasty ones, no, reinstate it, oh and ban glx >:) 22:07:58 <benjamingoodger> and that stadium in Toulouse (that I keep driving round and round because I'm lost) is very nice 22:08:25 <Prof_Frink> Toolost? 22:08:36 <benjamingoodger> potentially 22:08:46 <glx> @kick welshdragon it could have been a @ban 22:08:46 *** welshdragon was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [it could have been a @ban] 22:09:05 <Nite_Owl> No time Toulouse 22:09:06 <TrueBrain> completely expected :) I wanted to do it, but I thought I would leave it to you glx ;) 22:09:36 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 22:09:39 * benjamingoodger installs a caravan up welshdragon 22:09:52 * welshdragon chugs along th3e M4 slowly 22:09:57 <benjamingoodger> welshdragon will now ignite the english caravan, thereby burning himself to death 22:10:17 * welshdragon dies 22:10:29 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [gurgle gurgle ded. lol] 22:10:36 * Belugas wonders if he can be designated as among the french people 22:10:39 <benjamingoodger> huzzah! 22:10:42 <TrueBrain> Belugas: 22:10:43 <TrueBrain> no 22:10:50 <TrueBrain> else you would hae been an exception too ;) 22:10:55 <Belugas> hehe 22:10:57 <Prof_Frink> benjamingoodger: And you destroyed a caravan in the process! 22:10:59 <Prof_Frink> huzzah! 22:11:05 <benjamingoodger> I did :) 22:11:16 <benjamingoodger> I don't know why everyone hates them so much though 22:11:40 <benjamingoodger> whenever I've been on the M4, the caravans have been very well-behaved and stuck to lane 1 22:11:59 *** englishlion [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 22:12:06 <Prof_Frink> They're OK on motorways, no worse than lorries. 22:12:15 <Prof_Frink> on the A5 otoh... 22:12:25 <benjamingoodger> I nearly got sandwiched between two lorries on the M3 22:12:54 <Eddi|zuHause> 1024 Bytes (1,0 kB) kopiert, 66,2646 s, 0,0 kB/s <- oh this is going to be fun... 22:12:56 <benjamingoodger> and then another one pulled out in front of me a few miles down 22:13:10 <Belugas> funny... a french guy can be either one living in France or one speaking french 22:13:15 <Belugas> semantics semantics... 22:13:43 * englishlion roars 22:13:53 <petern> i had a lorry pull out on me across 3 empty lanes at 2 am at *cough* mph once 22:13:55 <petern> that was ncie 22:15:20 <benjamingoodger> :S 22:16:55 <Belugas> mmh 22:16:57 <Belugas> a lorry? 22:17:02 <Belugas> you mean a cop? 22:17:05 <Belugas> a trailer? 22:17:13 <Eddi|zuHause> lorry [BE] == truck [AE] 22:17:19 <Prof_Frink> Artic. 22:17:30 <Belugas> ho 22:17:31 <Belugas> ha 22:17:34 <Belugas> ok 22:17:49 <benjamingoodger> juggernauts 22:17:59 <benjamingoodger> the icebergs of the motorway.... 22:18:03 <petern> fings wot are big and slow 22:18:19 <Eddi|zuHause> stuff like that happens when languages don't use names as descriptive as in german... 22:18:27 <benjamingoodger> no, big and heavy and _poorly driven_ 22:18:40 <Eddi|zuHause> where everybody knows what a "Lastkraftwagen" is supposed to be 22:18:44 <petern> only by prositute murderers 22:18:56 <benjamingoodger> oooooooh 22:19:01 <benjamingoodger> :D 22:19:28 <Eddi|zuHause> (of course they are more commonly called "LKW") 22:19:40 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: The final delivery of processed cheese? 22:19:49 *** Slowpoke [~Lobster@91-66-241-81-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:00 <petern> hehe 22:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Prof_Frink: i have no idea what you are implying... 22:21:04 <Prof_Frink> last Kraft wagon. 22:21:42 <petern> kraft dairylea... blegh 22:21:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i associate "Kraft" with ketchup... where do you get cheese from? 22:21:45 <petern> horrible stuff 22:22:02 <benjamingoodger> Eddi|zuHause: kraft produce just about everything... 22:22:13 <benjamingoodger> including Dairylea cheese 22:22:16 <benjamingoodger> which is FILTH 22:22:24 <benjamingoodger> as petern says. 22:22:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea what that is 22:22:39 <Prof_Frink> I know what it isn't. 22:22:42 <Prof_Frink> cheese. 22:22:45 <benjamingoodger> well, look it up 22:22:53 <petern> 22:22 < benjamingoodger> as petern says. 22:22:55 <petern> er 22:23:00 <petern> "Despite a 2007 reformulation that reduced salt content by 9% and saturated fat content by 34%, the claim âfull of good stuffâ was banned by the UK's Advertising Standards Authority" 22:23:14 <benjamingoodger> heh 22:23:15 <petern> heehee 22:23:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm really not a cheese person 22:23:39 <petern> it's not really cheese 22:23:40 <SmatZ> hehe 22:23:42 <SmatZ> :-D 22:23:50 <benjamingoodger> heh 22:24:32 <petern> "In November 2008 it was found by the Food Commission, an independent consumer watchdog group, that Kraft Dairylea contained high levels of 3-MCPD, a suspected human carcinogen." 22:24:35 <petern> omnomnom 22:24:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i basically hate cheese, except on pizza 22:25:04 <Nite_Owl> A fellow cheese hater 22:25:08 <Eddi|zuHause> petern: isn't everything causing cancer these days? 22:25:30 <Prof_Frink> Especially DHMO. 22:25:38 <Sacro> argh no *dies* 22:25:40 <Prof_Frink> dangerous stuff, that. 22:25:44 <Nite_Owl> only in lab rats 22:25:58 <TrueBrain> breathing causes cancer ... (unbound oxygen ;)) 22:26:05 <petern> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is9a0lGkcmY heh 22:26:12 <Nite_Owl> I think lab rats are born with cancer 22:26:24 *** englishlion is now known as welshdragon 22:26:46 * Prof_Frink is now known as St_George 22:30:15 <Nite_Owl> Imagine it is 10,000 B.C. You milked your goat the previous night but left some of the milk in the bucket. It has gone hard due to the build up of bacteria. Would your first instinct be to throw the contents of the bucket away or to reach in and taste the remnants? 22:30:46 <Prof_Frink> Nite_Owl: Depends how hungry you are, dunnit? 22:30:54 <Nite_Owl> From my upcoming essay On The Origin of Cheese 22:31:42 <TrueBrain> lol @ Nite_Owl 22:31:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite_Owl: imagine you are sitting with your fellow hunting partners around a warm fire, celebrating your recent success, suddenly the fresh meat in your hands falls into the fire... 22:32:03 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE22E44.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:32:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-177-145.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.199.111] has joined #openttd 22:33:55 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35:01 <Prof_Frink> Eddi|zuHause: Then you wave it around and say "OK, who ordered 'well done'?" 22:35:32 <Nite_Owl> after you wipe the ashes off of it 22:35:40 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-162-96.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 22:35:58 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite_Owl: it was supposed to be an analogy 22:37:07 <Nite_Owl> I understood - but I was just "milking" it for all the humor I could get 22:37:58 <Eddi|zuHause> then i'd suggest s/he// and s/of/with/ :p 22:40:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.166.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:28 *** Moshe_ [~chatzilla@93-173-83-120.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #openttd 22:43:57 <Nite_Owl> If I read that right I should have used a smiley? Probably true but I am not a big fan of smilies either. If the humor is not obvious then I have failed. 22:46:38 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 22:48:05 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 22:48:28 *** Moshe [~chatzilla@93-172-204-184.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:41 *** Moshe_ is now known as Moshe 22:48:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:49:26 *** Kloopy_ [kloopy@kloopy.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:53:18 *** kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has joined #openttd 23:13:40 <TrueBrain> back to boredome 23:21:20 <Sacro> TrueBrain: we love you too 23:21:31 <TrueBrain> tnx Sacro, that makes my day :) 23:24:03 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE22E44.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:58 <SmatZ> !logs 23:29:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B9B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41:53 <TrueBrain> hmm ... /me ponders over a very old idea of mine: MMO OpenTTD 23:45:50 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: wwottdgd ? 23:45:59 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: bigger, much bigger 23:46:05 <TrueBrain> think 10Mx10M maps 23:46:18 <SmatZ> :) with current design? 23:46:29 <SmatZ> I sure like the idea 23:46:37 <SmatZ> I like big maps... 23:46:43 <TrueBrain> I already once made a draft which shows it can be done 23:46:52 <TrueBrain> the clients only hold a small portion of the real map 23:46:53 <SmatZ> but I don't want to download 50MB map just to join 23:46:59 <TrueBrain> and the map is hosted by several servers 23:47:12 <TrueBrain> when moving around, you are trade off to other servers along the way 23:47:18 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: and random number value is stored for each sub-block? 23:47:25 <TrueBrain> exactly 23:47:35 <TrueBrain> it for sure slows the game down on the client 23:47:41 <TrueBrain> but then again, it does have less data to keep track of 23:47:46 <TrueBrain> (which should improve the speed ;)) 23:47:59 <TrueBrain> the only big problem is the server side 23:48:12 <SmatZ> hmhm 23:48:12 <TrueBrain> a train going from one server to an other server needs to be trade off correctly 23:48:21 <SmatZ> yup :) 23:48:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.199.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:48:46 <TrueBrain> by making a few 'void' tiles around the map where vehicles can be (but not shown), there is time for this to work 23:48:57 <SmatZ> imagine train crashing to anothe rtrain at different server ;) 23:49:10 <TrueBrain> there will be a lot of communication between those servers :) 23:49:20 <SmatZ> also, including station catchment area (up to ~80 x 80 tiles) 23:49:29 <TrueBrain> such things should be limited 23:49:43 <SmatZ> servers are designed to receive data one tick earlier 23:49:43 <TrueBrain> but the easiest way is to copy a part of the server left of you inside your own map 23:50:03 <TrueBrain> so if a catchment area of 80 should be possible (why on earth ..) 23:50:08 <TrueBrain> there should be 80 extra tiles on each side 23:50:18 <SmatZ> but server A executing data from server B 1 tick old , while B is executing 1 tick old data from server A ... is asking for big problems 23:50:18 <TrueBrain> and each server makes sure the other servers around him know about changes 23:50:32 <TrueBrain> synchronizing that should be relative easy 23:50:35 <TrueBrain> (put clients on a 2 tick delay ;)) 23:51:02 <SmatZ> I don't see the solution now, but if you say so, I trust you :) 23:51:10 <TrueBrain> clients are now delayed 1 tick 23:51:12 <TrueBrain> so make that 2 ticks 23:51:18 <SmatZ> first step would be making game threadsafe... 23:51:21 <TrueBrain> tick 0: server receives commands, sends it to other servers 23:51:25 <TrueBrain> tick 1: server sends it to all clients 23:51:30 <TrueBrain> tick 2: everyone executes the command 23:51:46 <TrueBrain> why threadsafe? 23:51:52 * SmatZ is thinking 23:52:02 * SmatZ turns of news so he can think 23:52:08 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 23:52:24 <SmatZ> mmm interesting new, can't turn it off :) 23:52:36 <SmatZ> about end of commies government :) 23:52:39 <SmatZ> here 23:52:57 <TrueBrain> the main problem are servers ... currently they push 100% CPU when there are 3000+ trains or what so ever, in 2kx2k maps .. so clustering that up to 10Mx10M maps .. well .. takes a lot of CPU :p 23:53:06 *** BubbaJoe [~joerixon@dyn-62-56-107-237.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:53:20 <TrueBrain> so, a server needs to be made quicker 23:53:26 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: 3000+ ? 2k x 2k ? 23:53:29 <TrueBrain> move irrelevant stuff away, back to client-only 23:53:43 <SmatZ> I think many servers have problems running much less CPU-power hungry maps :) 23:54:13 <TrueBrain> thinks like: disable trees, speeds up the game ;) 23:54:25 <SmatZ> well, anywhere you move the border what sees the server 23:54:34 <SmatZ> it is a place where train crash (for example) may happen 23:54:51 <SmatZ> but only one server sees that in the first tick 23:55:07 <SmatZ> how do you solve that? 23:55:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-14-64-108.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:16 <TrueBrain> that is a non-issue (if I understand you correct) 23:55:23 <TrueBrain> now servers also don't see crashes one tick early 23:55:26 <TrueBrain> they all see them at the same time 23:55:49 <SmatZ> yeah, but... it happens in tick 1 ... server A sees the crash 23:55:54 <TrueBrain> because each server has a portion of the map of the server next to him, mostly :) 23:55:55 <SmatZ> and server B doesn't see it at all 23:56:14 <TrueBrain> this does introduce stuff like: train-limit 23:56:16 <SmatZ> maybe server A sends the info about it to server B ... but it receives it one tick later 23:56:18 <TrueBrain> no trains of N tiles ;) 23:56:18 *** BubbaJoe [~joerixon@dyn-62-56-107-237.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [] 23:56:35 <TrueBrain> and if that doesn't solve it, make 'priority' communication between servers 23:56:43 <TrueBrain> which runs in a seperate thread, not related to the game ticks 23:56:47 <SmatZ> well... train B then may see the crash won't happen, because the train crashed earlier, etc :) 23:56:48 <TrueBrain> but that is kind of nasty ;) 23:57:09 <SmatZ> limiting train length could solve that, yes 23:57:10 *** moralist [~moralist@84-217-58-142.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:12 <TrueBrain> if there is a copy of the map, including trains and everything .. both server A and server B see the crash happen 23:57:27 <SmatZ> of *whole* map 23:57:32 <TrueBrain> if server B doesn't see it, the train was already far outside the range of serer B :) 23:57:35 <TrueBrain> server 23:57:48 <TrueBrain> say, all servers run a 64x64 map 23:57:50 <TrueBrain> A B 23:57:51 <TrueBrain> C D 23:58:03 <TrueBrain> server A has 8 tiles of server B (his left) and 8 tiles of server C (his top) 23:58:09 <TrueBrain> when no train is longer than 8 tiles 23:58:18 <SmatZ> and 64 tiles of D 23:58:19 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 23:58:27 <TrueBrain> well, a small square of D :p 23:58:34 <SmatZ> 8x8 is 64 ;) 23:58:37 <TrueBrain> B and C have 8x64, D only 8x8 ;) 23:58:38 <TrueBrain> hehe 23:58:40 <TrueBrain> like that, yes :) 23:59:00 <TrueBrain> as those '8' tiles are outside of the map 23:59:09 <TrueBrain> (a client gets the data from server A, B, C and D) 23:59:21 <TrueBrain> I think that it might just go perfectly fine, with crashes and such :)