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06:42:39 <dihedral> TrueBrain ? ^ 07:07:52 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 07:30:18 *** Sebbe [Sebbe@x1-6-00-16-41-59-ea-88.k332.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 07:33:21 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:35:28 <petern> TrueBrain's not a tool! 08:03:51 <dihedral> well - depends what way you look at it :-P 08:04:01 <benjamingoodger> indeed 08:08:13 <benjamingoodger> that was weird 08:08:41 <benjamingoodger> anyway 08:08:44 <benjamingoodger> off to work, byee 08:12:59 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:13:02 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 08:21:16 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has joined #openttd 08:33:18 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 08:39:41 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:39:58 *** Zealotus [~Ping@78-69-54-150-no70.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 08:42:13 *** Mortal [~mortal@217.61.144.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:29 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 08:49:59 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 08:51:06 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 08:51:37 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 09:11:48 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE2351D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:19:56 *** George__ [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 09:20:10 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:31:06 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has joined #openttd 09:31:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Celestar] by ChanServ 09:31:11 <Celestar> \o 09:34:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F462.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:36:53 <dihedral> o/ 09:40:46 <DASPRiD> happy half x-mas! \o/ 10:02:40 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 10:05:25 <Celestar> ? 10:06:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:07:07 <petern> 12 is half of 25, apparently 10:08:49 <DASPRiD> x-mas in germany is 24. 10:09:19 <DASPRiD> and anyway, half of the 12. is over in 50 minutes, so yes, half of 25 as well :P 10:10:01 <SmatZ> int c = 25 / 2 ; -> c = 12 10:10:17 <DASPRiD> SmatZ, hehe 10:12:13 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no "x-mas" in germany... 10:12:29 <Eddi|zuHause> there is only "Weihnachten" 10:12:55 <DASPRiD> >_> 10:13:08 <DASPRiD> dict.cc: christmas -> weihnachten 10:13:46 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but there is no logical etymology about how you get from "christ" to "x" 10:13:55 <DASPRiD> we are all celebrating the same: the birth of santa claus :> 10:15:54 <SmatZ> "birth of santa claus" ? 10:16:28 <Eddi|zuHause> thanks, SmatZ... i couldn't figure out how to respond to that... 10:16:33 <DASPRiD> whats wrong about that? :x 10:19:50 *** jong [~jong@flipflip.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:58 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm22.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 10:23:34 <DASPRiD> dihedral, ? 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About 90% of us chatted either from work or from school 10:41:45 <Darkvater> :D 10:41:57 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.124] has joined #openttd 10:42:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and i cannot figure out how to create a transparent database storage system for my object structure... 10:42:09 <SmatZ> :) 10:42:29 <Darkvater> so, how is it going? Or shall I come back in the evening 10:43:02 <SmatZ> I think in the evening there will be more people active, if it is not a problem for you :) 10:43:41 <Darkvater> well, it'll be probably sunday till I'm back again; got some plans for the weekend 10:44:16 <SmatZ> how are you Darkvater, anyway? 10:44:31 <Darkvater> well; there can be only one reason why I'm back :D 10:44:58 <Darkvater> I just turned in my master's thesis yesterday; grade expected in a week orso and I'm done :D 10:45:22 <Darkvater> then I thought I'd pick up my old hobby again which I've sworn not to touch until I graduate 10:45:40 <SmatZ> great :-) 10:45:44 <Darkvater> so here we are :) 10:45:51 <SmatZ> the old hobby is OTTD I guess ;-) 10:45:58 <SmatZ> very good :) 10:46:00 <Darkvater> hehe; most definitely 10:46:19 <Darkvater> don't know how much dev-time I'll have, but surely hang around here 10:46:26 <SmatZ> Celestar is coding for OTTD again, after long time :) 10:46:30 * Darkvater just loves this game and all you people 10:46:36 <Darkvater> even Bjarni :P 10:46:59 <Rubidium> Bjarni, who's that? ;) 10:47:11 <Darkvater> ah, he's left then? good :> 10:47:22 <Darkvater> hi Rubidium, see you're still pretty active 10:47:22 <Rubidium> well, I'm not quite sure of it (yet) 10:47:59 <Rubidium> congratulations with finishing your thesis 10:48:36 <Darkvater> lemme tell...it sucked. But I'm so happy it's finished 10:48:49 * Rubidium wonders how 21 months without OpenTTD developing is 10:48:52 <Darkvater> when I started about 1.5 years ago to finish, it seemed like it would never end 10:49:05 <Darkvater> hard, very hard 10:49:20 <Celestar> Darkvater: :D 10:49:23 * Celestar hugs Darkvater 10:49:24 <Darkvater> for about a year I followed all commits, lurked and read the channel logs 10:49:33 <Darkvater> then I stopped doing that as well 10:49:46 * Darkvater gives a big hug to Celestar 10:49:51 <Darkvater> and one as well to Rubidium 10:49:58 <Darkvater> petern; come here you! :) 10:50:41 <Rubidium> don't forget to hug TL aka TB; he'd like a hug too I reckon 10:50:52 <Celestar> it's good to have you back Darkvater 10:51:15 <Darkvater> but he's not here :( 10:51:43 <Darkvater> Celestar: thanks :). Haven't seen you in the longest time. still doing well? 10:51:48 <Celestar> yeah. 10:51:49 <Darkvater> how's your phd going? 10:52:25 <Celestar> good. I have all the research done. I have two publications going. I'll have vacation from next Wednesday to early January, then I start writing up. 10:52:31 <Celestar> After that, I need to find myself a job. 10:52:50 <Darkvater> so you're done by spring? nice 10:53:11 * Darkvater gives a hug to TrueBL, hope he gets it ;) 10:53:39 <Celestar> Darkvater: early summer rather I guess. 10:53:50 <Celestar> but finding a job these days .. *shrugs* 10:54:02 <Darkvater> he, I know :( 10:54:33 <Eddi|zuHause> why is merging conflicts in hg such a pain? 10:54:48 <Celestar> but in the next few weeks I might work on cargodest_v2 :D 10:55:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a conflicting line, but i have no simple way of finding out which changes affect this line 10:55:41 <Darkvater> I've heard the rumours ^^ 10:55:53 <Celestar> what rumors? (= 10:56:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226151116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:56:09 <Darkvater> about some cargodest thingie in ottd 10:56:40 <Darkvater> I've sinned....gone through the forum this week :P 10:57:03 <Celestar> Darkvater: well. there's a finished version 1 basically :P 10:57:19 * Celestar kicks Kleopatra 10:58:55 <Darkvater> Celestar: seen it :). I was never very positive towards cargodest, but I think your idea is going the right way 10:59:00 * Darkvater gives Celestar his blessing 10:59:00 <Darkvater> :P 10:59:09 * Celestar blushes 10:59:27 <Celestar> at least it doesn't desync all the time or requires a supercomputer to run on :P 10:59:37 <Celestar> but it has its .. oddities :P 11:00:54 <Celestar> so Darkvater what will you be working on? :D 11:01:17 * Celestar has some idea *g* 11:02:50 * Rubidium has some ideas too 11:03:04 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:09 <Celestar> *cough* newgrf_ports *cough* 11:03:39 * Celestar raises a mug "To Darkvater" 11:03:48 * Rubidium rather sees the bugs fixed and noai+cargodest so we can do some 0.7 betas 11:04:32 <Celestar> so cargodest v1 in 0.7 and v2 in 0.8? 11:04:42 <Celestar> sounds good to me. 11:04:46 <Darkvater> Celestar: are you psychic? :) 11:05:00 <Celestar> Darkvater: of course, do you have a memory loss? (= 11:05:10 <Darkvater> apparently 11:05:18 <Darkvater> is Ridayah 11:05:19 <Darkvater> eh 11:05:33 *** burty [~ben@212.219.91.241] has joined #openttd 11:05:33 <Celestar> ? 11:05:35 <Darkvater> it sucks when people you talked to a lot are not here anymore 11:05:40 <Darkvater> you have to type their name :P 11:05:55 <Rubidium> @seen Ridayah 11:05:56 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Ridayah was last seen in #openttd 8 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 1 minute, and 14 seconds ago: * Ridayah disappears back into the world of the anonymous lurker 11:06:04 <Darkvater> has rickch abandoned newgrf_ports? 11:06:26 <Rubidium> probably a case of real life and him disagreeing with me 11:06:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.204.46] has joined #openttd 11:06:43 <Celestar> Darkvater: apparently :( 11:06:44 <Darkvater> ha, hasn't changed a bit I think 11:07:01 <Celestar> it needs a .. rewrite :P 11:07:21 <Celestar> Rubidium: I insist that I first at least attempt to fix multistop for DTRS for 0.7 beta, k? 11:07:28 <Darkvater> so indeed, I was thinking of checking newgrf_ports.. seemingly the job is available as well :D 11:07:52 * Celestar whistles 11:08:01 <Rubidium> Celestar: then do it ;) 11:08:03 <Celestar> Darkvater: we need these three airports in 11:08:09 <Darkvater> sorry Rubidium but I'll have to give up on bugs for the time being. I have been out way too long and probably code has changed a lot as well 11:08:26 <Celestar> Rubidium: yes. I have some very preliminary patches for it and they kind of work, but they're butt ugly 11:08:27 <Rubidium> and ask TB to build a cargodest binary so people can test your changes 11:08:45 <Darkvater> I feel for you though; getting bugs fixed and pushing a release through was always very stressfull... 11:08:50 <Eddi|zuHause> argh my head is exploding 11:08:52 <Celestar> Rubidium: yes. I'm trying to get some big test game running this weekend. 11:09:45 <Darkvater> don't want too much right now; with my new job starting in january I want to take it easy :) 11:10:00 <Celestar> Darkvater: where are you starting? 11:10:17 *** burty [~ben@212.219.91.241] has quit [] 11:10:18 <Darkvater> Celestar: I also thought about custom keyboard shortcuts, but that's not as impressive :P 11:10:30 <Celestar> Darkvater: not by a long shot :P 11:10:34 <Celestar> Darkvater: but it would come handy 11:11:27 <Darkvater> perhaps with newgrf_ports we can lure back SAC ^_^ 11:11:44 <Rubidium> Darkvater: rather with custom bridge heads 11:12:50 <Darkvater> really? never thought those too important 11:13:09 <Celestar> SAC? 11:13:25 <Rubidium> Darkvater: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=741709#p741709 11:13:38 <Celestar> they did give me some headache 11:13:50 <Celestar> but the splitting up of MP_TUNNELBRIDGE helped a LOT 11:13:56 <Darkvater> hihi, ok quickly then 11:13:58 <Eddi|zuHause> they are great for roads 11:13:58 <Darkvater> I'm at work :P 11:14:10 <Darkvater> never gave up my part-time job :P 11:14:50 <Darkvater> hmm, bad SAC :P 11:14:52 <Eddi|zuHause> have a road on an embankment, and then have bridges over the river 11:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> they are also important when you have lowered rail lines through the city 11:17:52 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0C540.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:14 <TrueBrain> [11:47] <Darkvater> ah, he's left then? good :> <- best comment in ages :) 11:18:26 <Darkvater> TrueBrain: ssssh 11:18:30 * Darkvater hugs TrueBrain 11:18:35 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:18:41 <Eddi|zuHause> else you have real trouble with connecting tram stations with train stations, because there is always 1 tile space between the rails and the roads 11:19:13 <Celestar> heh 11:19:16 * TrueBrain hugs Darkvater 11:19:20 <Celestar> you mean that Bjarni is lost? 11:19:20 <TrueBrain> nice to see you again :) 11:19:23 <Darkvater> *eeeuw* 11:19:23 <Darkvater> ;p 11:19:26 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: using TB doesn't highlight me :( 11:20:09 <Rubidium> I didn't want to wake you 11:20:17 <TrueBrain> hahahahaha 11:20:24 <TrueBrain> I do not have my sound attached to my IRC, sorry ;) 11:20:46 * Rubidium would like it if there's sound attached to my IRC 11:21:10 <TrueBrain> a customer informed me yesterday that 3 (!) days ago a server was in a reboot-mood, and that ther eis now disk damage .. well .. better late then never I guess :( 11:21:18 <Rubidium> then some server somewhere in Germany would go bleep bleep ;) 11:21:27 <TrueBrain> hahahaha :) Sigh ... 11:21:29 * TrueBrain slaps Rubidium 11:21:38 <TrueBrain> in my case it would be Amsterdam I guess :p 11:22:00 <Dr_Jekyll> hello...in the newshiphs.grf is a car carrier that could carry only goods...someone could tell me what i have to change in nfo-file to make it carry car's too? 11:22:48 <Darkvater> :O shiny 11:22:54 <Darkvater> new website ^^ 11:23:01 <TrueBrain> haha, for a while now :) 11:23:14 <TrueBrain> no more SF as main binary distributor, that is even better ;) 11:23:20 <Darkvater> ok I think I really need to catch up 11:23:36 * Darkvater hugs TrueBrain 11:23:42 <TrueBrain> I wish you good luck with catching up :) 11:23:46 <TrueBrain> 21 months is a long time my friend ;) 11:23:47 <Darkvater> SF was so horrible 11:23:54 <TrueBrain> it still is ;) 11:24:08 <Darkvater> what's up with you people and 21 months? :) 11:24:16 <Darkvater> didn't I leave in May :) 11:24:33 <Rubidium> last commit was on the 10th of March 2007 11:25:26 <Darkvater> he, it looks like you have some commemorative plate on a wall or something mourning my last commit P 11:25:47 <TrueBrain> we call it 'svn log', but sure, a plate will do just fine too :) 11:25:47 <Rubidium> it's a simple lookup 11:26:01 <Darkvater> can I have the plate :) 11:26:12 * TrueBrain gets some wood .. 11:27:00 <Darkvater> :) 11:27:01 <TrueBrain> but first some bread 11:27:05 <TrueBrain> and something to put onto it 11:27:15 <Rubidium> but... there's wood in some breads 11:27:20 <Darkvater> so; how's Rubidium and TrueBrain doing? 11:27:44 <TrueBrain> BORED! 11:27:49 <TrueBrain> but that shouldn't be any suprise :) 11:28:00 <TrueBrain> (some things never change :p) 11:28:34 <Darkvater> school? work? anyone got married in the meantime ;) 11:28:40 <Dr_Jekyll> at least a hint where i can find the solution for changing cargo types that could be carried? 11:28:56 <Rubidium> maybe Brianetta or was he married in your time already? 11:29:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Dr_Jekyll: you mean a refit mask? 11:29:14 <TrueBrain> Darkvater: lol, I started doing CS at Leiden :p 11:29:15 <Zuu> Dr_Jekyll: Graphics forum of OpenTTD on tt-forums could be one place to look at 11:29:32 <Zuu> ttdpatch wiki can probably provide some help too 11:29:37 <Darkvater> Dr_Jekyll: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Action0Ships ? 11:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> action 2 for vehicles probably 11:30:00 <Darkvater> TrueBrain: weren't you already? :) 11:30:19 <TrueBrain> I am doing it for 1 year now, so .. not really ;) 11:30:45 <Darkvater> oh..then dinges, Sterrenkunde previously? 11:30:50 <TrueBrain> yup :) 11:30:56 <TrueBrain> Astronomy ;) 11:31:00 <Darkvater> pcies 11:31:14 <Darkvater> I was about to say Astrology, couldn't find the other 11:31:20 <TrueBrain> hahahahahahaha 11:31:27 <TrueBrain> no, I don't do Astrology :) 11:31:38 <TrueBrain> I really doubt some object several lightyears away can have any effect on us :) 11:31:43 <Dr_Jekyll> ok thx...i'll try further 11:31:56 * Rubidium does a form of astrology ;) 11:32:12 <TrueBrain> I wonder if Rubidium has a candle in front of him 11:32:22 <Darkvater> TrueBrain: good luck with CS :) 11:32:27 <Rubidium> when I can't see stars it's more likely that it's going to rain soon 11:32:29 <TrueBrain> tnx ... boring boring boring shit 11:32:38 <TrueBrain> haha 11:32:38 <Darkvater> Rubidium was Delft...CS as well? 11:32:48 <TrueBrain> a bit more East :p 11:32:59 <Darkvater> TrueBrain: I know...but from 3rd year on it's much more fun 11:33:13 <TrueBrain> I just finished COCO .. even that was boring :p 11:33:20 <Rubidium> I've been in Delft, but I didn't quite fancy it, though the fakkelteit looked nice 11:33:31 <TrueBrain> TJIP was nice :p 11:33:33 <TrueBrain> well .. kind of ;) 11:33:34 <Darkvater> so you burned it down? :D 11:33:44 <Darkvater> I could see the fire from my work 11:33:45 <TrueBrain> auch 11:34:01 <Darkvater> (Rijswijk) 11:34:03 <Darkvater> TJIP? 11:34:04 * Rubidium could see the stupid reporters on tv 11:34:27 <Dr_Jekyll> Eddi|zuHause i want to make the car carrier of the newships.grf carrying car instaed of only goods or at least make it refittable 11:34:33 <TrueBrain> haha, here it comes again :p 11:34:40 <TrueBrain> (sorry Rubidium, you are predictable in certain cases :)) 11:34:40 <Rubidium> "the firefighters couldn't find any trace amounts of CO2" 11:34:49 <Rubidium> still, the stupidity ;) 11:35:01 <TrueBrain> it is stupid, I agree with you there :) 11:35:03 <Rubidium> but then, I've always said that reporters are stupid 11:35:25 <TrueBrain> "if a meteor of that size would hit the earth, we most likely would all die" 11:35:37 <TrueBrain> well .. yeah ... if you blow yourself up, you most likely die too 11:35:44 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 11:36:13 <Darkvater> hihi 11:36:15 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 11:36:25 <TrueBrain> (I saw the comic scetch "dead terrorist" yesterday, it still is a very nice one :)) 11:36:27 <Darkvater> ok, gonna gt some lunch, bbl :) 11:36:38 <TrueBrain> enjoy 11:36:43 <TrueBrain> and make sure you come back here 11:38:14 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 11:38:32 <TrueBrain> DASPRiD|off: we truly don't care if you are 'off' or not 11:38:45 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 11:38:49 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: you mean achmed? :p 11:38:57 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: exactly :) 11:39:06 <Eddi|zuHause> he is really genious ;) 11:39:20 <TrueBrain> I agree :) 11:40:16 <DASPRiD> TrueBrain, me neither, but my proxy and some people do 11:41:57 <Forked> meep meep 11:42:03 <TrueBrain> zoef 11:47:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B841A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 11:55:26 <Celestar> man. 11:55:38 <Celestar> the minute Darkvater is back, I don't manage to read the backlog fast enough 11:56:07 * SmatZ is back from lunch :) 11:56:17 <TrueBrain> poor Celestar 11:58:03 * Celestar sniffs 11:58:46 <Gekz> I just bit a hole in my gums 11:58:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BDC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:45 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i don't want to go outside... 12:05:49 <Eddi|zuHause> there is snow... 12:07:16 <Gekz> eat it 12:07:17 <Gekz> or 12:07:22 <Gekz> drink so much, that you piss all over it 12:07:25 <Gekz> and it all melts 12:07:34 <Vikthor> Eddi|zuHause: Don't be afraid snow does not bite ;) 12:09:41 <Eddi|zuHause> Gekz: do not eat yellow snow 12:09:52 <Gekz> ok. 12:12:51 <TrueBrain> always a good tip 12:20:57 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 12:21:19 *** DASPRiD|off is now known as DASPRiD 12:21:30 * TrueBrain starts to run out of patients with certain people .. 12:22:24 <Gekz> patience*, sorry TrueBrain, they're completely different words. Patients are what's left in hospitals when you've finished with them xD! 12:22:30 *** DASPRiD is now known as DASPRiD|off 12:22:40 <TrueBrain> Gekz: I knew I wrote it wrong, I failed to find the effort to correct it :p 12:22:46 <TrueBrain> @kban DASPRiD|off 60 bleh 12:22:47 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~dasprid@dasprids.de] by DorpsGek 12:22:47 *** DASPRiD|off was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [bleh] 12:23:14 <Gekz> lol 12:23:34 <TrueBrain> annoying bouncers 12:23:46 * SmatZ is running of out patients 12:23:47 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~dasprid@dasprids.de] by DorpsGek 12:23:55 <SmatZ> *out of 12:23:58 <SmatZ> hmmm ... 12:24:12 <TrueBrain> lol 12:26:29 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:06 <SpComb> a revivalâ¬! 12:30:26 <Forked> so urr err.. hello! 12:30:44 <Forked> I was looking for something usefull to type.. but I never have any of that stuff to contribute with, so .. instead you got my ramblin about it 12:30:58 <TrueBrain> lol 12:30:59 <TrueBrain> nice 12:31:18 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:35:37 <Dr_Jekyll> i couldn't find where i have to change what to make the car carrier carrying cars... 12:41:00 <Alberth> Dr_Jekyll: never tried it myself, but basically, you have to create a .GRF file for it (or adapt one). Usual approach is to write a NFO file (see http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=NewGraphicsSpecs), and have grfcodec convert it to the .GRF equivalent 12:41:27 <Dr_Jekyll> Alberth ... this is done 12:41:59 <Alberth> Dr_Jekyll: well, if it doesn't work, it is not done correctly obviously. 12:44:13 <Darkvater> I made it :) 12:44:29 <Celestar> made what? 12:44:44 <Alberth> Darkvater: welcome back :) 12:45:02 <Darkvater> back of course 12:45:04 <Darkvater> hi Alberth 12:45:07 <TrueBrain> which is a challange :p 12:45:13 <Darkvater> TrueBrain was afraid I might get lost 12:45:21 <TrueBrain> big building :p 12:45:37 <Gekz> Stop communicating in English 12:45:43 <Gekz> I hereby ban English 12:45:56 <Forked> den er grei, Gekz .. vi kan skrive norsk vi.. (ÊÞå) 12:45:59 <Gekz> if a trade standard language is required, please use French. 12:46:05 <Forked> le crap. 12:46:12 <Gekz> Bokmal or Nynorsk? 12:46:13 <Gekz> :P 12:46:26 <Forked> first one, please 12:46:30 <Gekz> haha. 12:46:35 <Gekz> You're a real norwegian 12:46:40 <Gekz> only pretenders use nynorsk 12:46:43 <Forked> Indeed I am 12:47:26 <Gekz> Le merde. 12:50:32 <Forked> I always figured french was easy to talk.. you just make up french sounding words and try to put in enough "le" and "la" here and there 12:51:36 <Gekz> Non 12:52:01 <Gekz> C'est ne facile pas. 12:52:08 <Celestar> er .. french. 12:52:29 <Celestar> The french have moved down two notches in my respect ratio because of the TGV :P 12:52:54 <Gekz> lol. 12:56:05 <FauxFaux> You lot are worse than the people at work, I haev a tiny set of changes, svn up from about two weeks ago, conflicts everywhere. ¬_¬ 13:04:45 <Celestar> bah 13:04:52 <Celestar> my collegue's wife is terrorizing me 13:06:22 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:06:25 <Terkhen> good afternoon 13:06:36 <Celestar> Buenas tardes. 13:07:11 <Celestar> no don't come up with the strange idea that I know Spanish 13:07:42 <Terkhen> hahahaha 13:08:15 <Terkhen> well, i don't know that much english either 13:08:26 <Forked> Celestar: isn't it's your collegues job to be terrorised by his wife? 13:08:46 <Celestar> Forked: yes. 13:08:53 <Celestar> Forked: but he isn't here at the moment. 13:09:01 <Celestar> and she called about four times in the past ten minutes. 13:09:15 <Celestar> which part of "He's in a meeting" is that difficult to understand 13:09:39 <Forked> you get blamed for lying to cover for him .. while he is out on a secret date with his secretary 13:09:44 <Forked> it's all your fault 13:10:06 <Celestar> you'd have to be pretty deperate to jump onto our secretary 13:10:23 <Celestar> desparate 13:10:25 <Celestar> whatever ... 13:10:26 <Celestar> :P 13:15:30 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:16:16 <Forked> some people are pretty desperate .. even married ones :\ 13:16:42 <Celestar> hehe 13:18:39 <petern> hmm, she wants the big old box set that costs £89.99... should i get the new small box set that costs £39.99? :p 13:18:52 <petern> (16 dvd set) 13:19:01 <Darkvater> wrong window :O 13:19:04 * Darkvater hugs petern 13:19:07 <Forked> do you get a gigantic one that costs £129.99? 13:19:21 <petern> right window 13:19:22 <petern> but 13:19:24 <petern> Darkvater! 13:19:35 * petern hugs Darkvater 13:19:42 <petern> Forked, they're both rrp £120, heh 13:20:05 <petern> i think cheap set'll do, it'll only get watched once :p 13:20:49 <Darkvater> :D 13:22:04 * petern reads the scrollback to avoid asking all the questions already answered 13:22:38 <Darkvater> what happened to your name :) 13:22:46 <planetmaker> I guesses petern will be busy the next... few quarter of hours :) 13:23:55 <petern> nah, read it now 13:24:00 <petern> bjarni comment... funny :D 13:24:21 <petern> numbers fell off from irc... still there in the ottd world :D 13:25:03 <TrueBrain> but where did the 'n' came from? 13:25:10 <Darkvater> hehe, fell off 13:25:43 <petern> TrueBrain, n could be a generic place holder for any number 13:25:56 <petern> TrueBrain, *or* it could the first letter of my last name... 13:26:17 <petern> i think one day i reconnected to irc and didn't change my name, as this is my username 13:26:36 <petern> Darkvater, we have a big problem 13:26:42 <petern> there's a grf 13:26:44 <petern> egrvts 13:26:52 <petern> it adds horse-drawn vehicles :o 13:26:54 <Darkvater> I love you 13:27:02 <Darkvater> but continue, please 13:27:02 *** mucht_work [~martin@p4FE2351D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:27:14 <petern> mutual sir, mutal 13:27:16 <petern> +u 13:28:19 <Darkvater> what is the problem sir Peter? 13:28:36 <petern> horses! 13:28:46 <petern> "somebody" once said there'd never be horses! 13:28:48 <petern> :D 13:29:16 <Darkvater> is that me by any chance? :) 13:29:26 <Celestar> hehehe 13:29:35 <Darkvater> s/is/was/ig 13:29:53 <Celestar> the egrvts is not bad a set 13:30:04 <Celestar> the horse-drawn stuff is pointless however 13:31:08 <Darkvater> well if people want to play with them? 13:31:20 <Darkvater> but I see, we need to be stern again ^^ 13:32:00 <petern> :) 13:32:02 <Celestar> :D 13:32:09 <TrueBrain> you want to kill yet an other forum user? 13:32:13 <TrueBrain> the first one already gave so much trouble 13:32:17 <Celestar> which one? 13:32:30 <TrueBrain> took me ages to convince the police you had nothing to do with it 13:32:53 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:05 * Darkvater humbly thanks TrueBrain for his cover 13:33:24 <TrueBrain> :) 13:33:36 <Celestar> Darkvater humble .. that's a first! 13:33:49 <TrueBrain> he is a whole new person :p 13:33:57 <Darkvater> ey, I just got back :) 13:34:13 <Darkvater> I need to soften you people up a bit 13:34:21 <TrueBrain> yeah .. good point :) 13:34:27 * Celestar hands Darkvater a softenizer 13:34:56 <petern> fabric conditioner? 13:35:08 <Celestar> I like "softenizer" 13:35:09 <Celestar> :P 13:35:12 <Darkvater> http://www.wonen.nl/cgi-ebm/web/get_img_by_name.pl?ei_code=Silan%20Refresh%20vrijst&webid=1745 13:35:13 <petern> heh 13:35:16 <Darkvater> already have one :P 13:37:43 <TrueBrain> crazy person 13:44:04 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:46 <Celestar> "fabric conditioner" sounds way to much like a Fibre-Channel optimizer to me :P 13:47:35 <dihedral> Darkvater ? 13:47:39 <dihedral> how nice to see you :-) 13:48:02 <Celestar> when I came back, I didn't get that nice a welcome :P 13:48:04 <dihedral> that just made my day (so far) :-) 13:48:26 <dihedral> Celestar, were you gone for years? 13:48:39 <Celestar> no, but almost a year I guess :P 13:48:41 <dihedral> try having a _long_ nap 13:48:50 <dihedral> :-P 13:49:04 <Darkvater> hi dihedral :) 13:49:15 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 13:49:43 <Darkvater> at least the channel's a bit more lively now 13:49:52 <TrueBrain> Darkvater: only the regular people talk 13:49:55 <TrueBrain> the other 95 idle :p 13:50:15 <dihedral> lol 13:50:33 <dihedral> Darkvater, how is life? what are your plans? 13:50:47 <dihedral> will you stick around a wee bit more, or is this just a one off visit? 13:51:51 <Celestar> it's goodbye. He's going to the Moon :P 13:52:01 <Darkvater> the moon's boring 13:52:10 <Celestar> with you there? hardly. 13:52:17 <Darkvater> I've claimed me a nice chunk of Mars; expedition is going next year 13:52:29 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 13:52:54 <Darkvater> dihedral: well, life's great now and yes, I'm planning to stay; at least for now 13:53:21 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:53:34 <Darkvater> how much time I will have is still to be seen. Real job, life and how much time outside of that remains for computer-related hobbies is uncertain 13:54:46 <petern> you don't have to dev to stay here, heh 13:54:56 * petern checks his last commit :p 13:55:07 <Darkvater> no, no, like that, I'm planning on staying here 13:55:11 <Darkvater> always had a great time :D 13:55:51 <Darkvater> but to make everyone at ease, I'll not take control and commandeer people around :) 13:56:44 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I always liked it when you took control over me 13:56:45 <TrueBrain> oh wait .. 13:56:46 <TrueBrain> :p 13:58:07 <petern> remote control truebrain! 13:58:36 <Darkvater> I knew you did baby 14:03:16 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:03:39 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:56 * petern merges railtypes again 14:12:56 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:16:27 <TrueBrain> and silentness came over this channel once again :) 14:16:33 <TrueBrain> Darkvater: it really became more dull since a year or so :p 14:18:05 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:18 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:10 *** M4rk [~M4rk@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:12 <Darkvater> TrueBrain: I will not believe that :) 14:24:15 *** M4rk is now known as Mark 14:24:23 <TrueBrain> proof me wrong :) 14:24:34 <Darkvater> prove :) 14:24:49 <TrueBrain> fine 14:25:10 <Darkvater> hmm, or not? 14:25:34 <Darkvater> well I cannot since I wasn't here 14:25:50 <TrueBrain> you are allowed to do so in the future :) 14:26:18 <Darkvater> let's ask Sacro :) 14:28:48 <petern> well, since tron left 14:28:56 <petern> a lot of arguments gone :p 14:28:56 <TrueBrain> much less swearing :) 14:29:42 <Darkvater> meh, I liked Tron 14:29:50 <petern> so did i 14:30:00 <Darkvater> I know the feeling is not universal :) 14:30:14 <petern> i will not pretend there were no arguments, however :) 14:30:38 <TrueBrain> Darkvater: you most likely were the only person :p :p :p 14:30:38 <Celestar> I liked Tron too, but he was anal sometimes 14:31:15 <SmatZ> @seen Tron 14:31:15 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Tron was last seen in #openttd 43 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Tron> gcc 2.95 is plain obsolete (even has several bugs in its C++ part). further at the very least the justifications given are extremely oversimplified. 14:31:32 <Darkvater> hehe, typical :) 14:31:35 <TrueBrain> even his last comment is typical 14:31:39 <TrueBrain> haha 14:32:04 <Celestar> lol 14:32:07 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CF35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:17 <fjb> Hello 14:32:22 <TrueBrain> hi fjb :) 14:33:30 <petern> Darkvater, and he *was* considering coming back... but couldn't... because someone had removed his access :( 14:33:48 <TrueBrain> petern: which is bull :) 14:33:48 <Darkvater> Tron was? 14:33:54 <TrueBrain> all access was removed of ex-developers 14:33:57 <TrueBrain> even Darkvater has no access 14:34:00 <Darkvater> I thi 14:34:00 <TrueBrain> he just had to ask .. 14:34:09 <petern> mine wasn't, i was ex at that point 14:34:11 <Darkvater> exactly, I had an mail about account removal 14:34:24 <TrueBrain> petern: you were ex at some point? 14:34:27 <petern> yes 14:34:27 <TrueBrain> that info never reached me :) 14:34:30 <petern> for a long time 14:34:40 <petern> well, 4 months or so :o 14:34:49 <TrueBrain> sorry, completely missed that :) 14:34:55 <TrueBrain> but okay, I have been away for months too :) 14:34:59 <Celestar> What was my status? 14:35:01 <Celestar> MIA? 14:35:08 <TrueBrain> Celestar: yes :) 14:35:19 <TrueBrain> @seen rickh 14:35:19 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: I have not seen rickh. 14:35:23 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:35:24 <TrueBrain> how do you writ ehis name :p 14:35:30 <petern> @seen richk 14:35:30 <DorpsGek> petern: I have not seen richk. 14:35:34 <TrueBrain> anyway, petern, I am sorry we didn't remove your access :) I will do so next time ;) 14:35:38 <petern> good 14:36:15 <TrueBrain> it was not in our intention to make you feel left out :) 14:36:35 * SpComb yawns 14:39:11 <SpComb> so when are we going to rewrite OpenTTD? 14:39:20 <petern> feel free 14:39:34 <TrueBrain> I once wrote the ultimated patch for petern :) 14:39:38 <TrueBrain> patched all bugs of OpenTTD instantly 14:39:42 <TrueBrain> just .. it didn't do much either :) 14:39:51 <SpComb> was the patch roughly the size of the OpenTTD source code? 14:40:00 <TrueBrain> yup! 14:40:04 <SpComb> clever 14:40:12 <TrueBrain> I thought so too, yes :) 14:42:06 <fjb> You wrote a patch for petern? Does petern have that many bugs? 14:42:16 <TrueBrain> no, he is pretty bug free :) 14:42:50 <blathijs> Hmm, speaking of Tron, someone nicknamed "Tron" just walked into #llvm 14:42:52 <Forked> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7778767.stm .. ;-) 14:42:54 <blathijs> Wonder if that is the same :-) 14:43:03 <SpComb> talking about GCC and compilers... 14:43:10 <blathijs> sounds like :-p 14:43:11 <TrueBrain> blathijs: german mask ;) 14:43:25 <SpComb> 16:43:07 -!- channels : #firm #bsdforen.de #ufoai 14:43:38 <blathijs> TrueBrain: He has a t-dialin.net host 14:43:43 <TrueBrain> ;) 14:44:00 <blathijs> There is also a vurlix there, but he hasn't responded to my "Are you the OpenTTD vurlix?" question :-) 14:44:12 <TrueBrain> haha 14:44:13 <TrueBrain> Vurlix 14:44:15 <TrueBrain> old name :) 14:44:16 <TrueBrain> 2003 .. 14:44:52 <SpComb> didn't ludde pop by here at some point, or am I mistaken? 14:45:12 <TrueBrain> he drops by now and then to promote his new project :) 14:45:22 <glx> the music one? 14:45:40 <TrueBrain> yes :) 14:46:08 <Celestar> i g2g 14:46:11 <TrueBrain> bye Celestar :) 14:46:30 <Celestar> cu tomorrow I guess 14:46:33 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@129.187.69.65] has quit [Quit: now] 14:46:45 <fjb> Forked: I thought about trademarking gravity. 14:48:15 <Forked> I thought about trademarking and copyrighting pregnancy.. 14:50:13 <Darkvater> music&ludde? 14:50:26 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 14:50:34 <fjb> You can more or less easily prevent pregnancy, but you have to use gravity. 14:50:37 <TrueBrain> Darkvater: yeah, his latest project .. some kind of central music blabla 14:50:41 <TrueBrain> forgot the name :) 14:51:13 <Darkvater> some iTunes kinda store? 14:51:25 *** taytay [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51:26 <TrueBrain> no, it was free 14:51:29 <TrueBrain> and you could select TONS of music 14:51:40 <TrueBrain> but dutch people couldn't signup yet :p 14:51:44 <Darkvater> ... lawsuits 14:52:06 <Zuu> advert based music central? 14:52:53 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc1-rdng14-0-0-cust946.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:53:47 <TrueBrain> Spotify 14:53:49 <TrueBrain> that was the name 14:54:50 <Darkvater> :O 14:54:56 <Darkvater> Spotify has been developed since 2006 by a developer team at Spotify AB, Stockholm, Sweden. The company Spotify was founded by Daniel Ek (former CTO of stardoll.com) and Martin Lorentzon (former CEO of TradeDoubler) in Stockholm, Sweden. It was recently exposed to be the source of much of the pornography that is currently polluting the intertubes 14:55:27 <TrueBrain> http://www.spotify.com/en/ 14:55:29 <TrueBrain> try that :p 14:55:59 <Darkvater> I wonder if I have a wikipedia article as well :P 14:56:34 <lolman> D: No native Linux client 14:57:28 <SmatZ> "Not available in your country yet" 14:57:35 <TrueBrain> I have the same :p 14:58:27 <Zuu> I have "Free - if you have an invite" 14:58:36 <TrueBrain> well, ludde could have given you the invite :) 14:58:41 <glx> I didn't ask for invitaion :) 14:58:46 * lolman has an account but no native client :( 14:59:05 <lolman> And having to chroot to use it isn't too much fun at all :( 14:59:20 <SmatZ> lolman: there is 32bit linux client, but not 64bit? 14:59:35 <lolman> SmatZ, no, have to run the Windows one in WINE apparently 14:59:56 <SmatZ> :( 15:00:04 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:20 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:05:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:23:33 <Darkvater> < going home, see you around soon :). If someone wants to desperately talk to me, /msg is open :P 15:28:11 <TrueBrain> so tempting 15:28:27 *** Zorn [zorn@g224106123.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:29:45 <Belugas> blink blink 15:29:53 <Belugas> do i read it correctly???? 15:30:03 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 15:30:04 <Belugas> There is a Vater among us??? 15:30:14 <Belugas> ho boy... looks like a ghost to me 15:30:18 * Belugas reads back 15:34:05 <petern> sir! 15:35:08 *** Zorni [zorn@f054002078.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:15 <Belugas> Amiral !! 15:55:24 <Belugas> fuck... that was a long read :S 15:55:35 <Belugas> WELCOME BACK Darkvater!!! 15:56:23 <Belugas> hurg... there was that bottle of red wine quietly waiting for me on the kitchen... why not keep on partying ? heheh 15:56:29 <Belugas> watch out for the typos! 15:56:51 <petern> :D 16:00:44 <Mortal> belugas, that's what I tell myself every monday morning 16:01:07 <Belugas> party animal ;) 16:01:20 <Belugas> we had our christmas party yesterday @work 16:01:35 <Mortal> actually it's what I'm telling myself now as well, cause I have to write 10 pages on light and refraction this weekend 16:01:36 <Belugas> some of us are not even here today 16:01:51 <Mortal> hah, nice - what about those that are? 16:02:10 <Belugas> and most of those who are have that strange glare 16:02:11 <Belugas> as me 16:02:16 <Mortal> hehehe 16:02:17 <Belugas> vapor ware today 16:02:48 <Mortal> the danish culture with regards to christmas and partying is FUBAR... 16:03:06 <Mortal> the christmas (november, december and january, that is) is an occasion to host as many "christmas lunches" as possible 16:03:26 <Mortal> I held a christmas lunch last saturday night with some peeps in my class 16:04:28 <Mortal> so we ate chinese and played guitar hero (booze is obligatory) 16:05:13 <Belugas> :) 16:05:18 <Belugas> of course of course 16:05:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BDC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:20 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:05:39 <Belugas> we have a problem with guitar hero, to be honest. 16:05:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.204.46] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:09 <Belugas> among the programmers, half of the team are real guitar players, including your humble servant 16:06:32 <Belugas> so... we do not lower ourselves to such a trivial game ^_^ 16:06:37 <Mortal> ah 16:06:39 <Belugas> GIMME MY AXE!! 16:07:00 <Mortal> well, I'm ... sort of a guitar player? regardless I played guitar hero for the first time that weekend and scored pretty high 16:08:35 <Mortal> trivial, sure, though it's still fun, even when you do the real thing... basically, musical aptitude helps a lot 16:08:53 <Mortal> on a real guitar, musical aptitude is not all there is to it, unfortunately 16:09:03 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:15 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:09:20 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:11:02 <Belugas> attitude? maybe not on our side. Atmosphere, maybe. there are two very good jazz addicts, i'm a bit touching all that is rock, there's a blues one 16:11:22 <Belugas> so when we start jamming (which we do from time to time), the results are very funny 16:11:33 <Belugas> last time, i brough my bottle neck 16:11:40 <Belugas> the FUN we had 16:11:59 <Belugas> i've installed the guit on a little bench and used it a pedal guit 16:12:07 <Belugas> LOVELY 16:12:20 <petern> mm? 16:12:20 <Belugas> mm... back to wotrk now 16:13:20 <Belugas> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carter_S13yellowblack1.jpg 16:13:22 <Belugas> like that 16:13:36 <Belugas> David Gilmour uses it a lot 16:14:14 <Belugas> Mogwai use the bottle neck on a normal guit, as i do 16:14:44 *** joepie91 [53a0acbd@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:14:48 <joepie91> hey 16:14:59 <SmatZ> hello 16:15:14 <joepie91> i have a little problem with openttd... is there anyone who could help me? 16:15:28 <Mortal> don't ask to ask joepie91, just ask 16:15:36 <joepie91> i'm running a dedicated openttd server... with the europe map by Mega.. and there are some trams that jammed up 16:15:38 <joepie91> they're all stuck 16:15:43 <joepie91> and i can't get them anywhere 16:15:46 <Belugas> petern -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lapstyle.jpg 16:15:47 <Belugas> like that 16:16:01 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:16:15 <joepie91> ? 16:16:22 <joepie91> 17:15 Belugas petern -> 16:16:43 <Zuu> joepie91: You have unconnected tram track ends? 16:16:55 <Belugas> hello joepie91. it was not related to you 16:16:57 <joepie91> not as far as i know.. but there was road construction 16:17:05 <joepie91> and after that it all jammed up 16:17:36 <joepie91> wait 16:17:59 <joepie91> ok, it's solved already :S i decided to remove a road piece in front of the trams 16:18:01 <joepie91> and rebuild it 16:18:03 <Zuu> Tram jams are quite hard to resolve as you can't kill them as with trains, and you cant make them turn around as buses. 16:18:04 <joepie91> along with the tram track 16:18:07 <joepie91> and now it works again 16:18:18 <Zuu> Nic 16:18:20 <Zuu> e 16:18:26 <joepie91> yeah, i figured that... i had this problem on some other guys server as well 16:18:27 <joepie91> anyways 16:18:32 <joepie91> its solved now :) 16:18:46 <joepie91> also 16:19:00 <joepie91> something else... is there a good video tutorial available somewhere on advanced presginaling? 16:19:04 <joepie91> presignaling* 16:19:16 <Zuu> try youtube, if you can find anything 16:19:24 <Zuu> but I don't know of any specific. 16:19:39 <Zuu> But there are OpenTTD stuff on Youtube 16:19:48 <joepie91> i couldnt find anything decent on youtube.. there is something that shows a layout, but it was just as useful as a single screenshot 16:20:03 <joepie91> it had no explanation whatsoever 16:20:19 <Zuu> Have you tried the openttd wiki? 16:20:25 <Zuu> Or openttdcoop wiki 16:21:08 <Zuu> Not video tutorials, but has junction building help 16:21:47 <joepie91> i found something with examples of advanced signaling.. but i couldn't understand it 16:22:17 <joepie91> is there anybody here who speaks dutch and could explain me the system in dutch? 16:22:25 <joepie91> that might help, since i'm not a native english speaker :P 16:23:17 <Belugas> nor am i :( 16:23:21 <Zuu> I only know Swedish, English and Swedish signlanguage. 16:23:33 <Zuu> And the last one does not work any good on IRC ;) 16:23:39 <Belugas> yes, there are some dutch here and there, but I think the most saavy ones are busy elsewere 16:23:42 <Belugas> as i shold be too 16:23:48 <Belugas> blaaaa... 16:24:22 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:07 <Zuu> joepie91: Try enable sign gui (advanced settings / patch settings) and then right click on the signal buttons. Then you will get some instructions for each signal type. 16:25:09 <joepie91> lol ok 16:25:15 <joepie91> yeah i have gui on 16:25:25 <joepie91> but i still dont understand which signals relate to which signals :P 16:25:33 <joepie91> and how i should build something more advanced 16:25:51 <joepie91> hmm isnt DorpsGek dutch? his name is dutch :P 16:25:59 <Zuu> You can start by leaving out the third signal type to make things easier at the begining. 16:26:27 *** tcohen_ [~tcohen@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26:31 <Zuu> So you have entry and exit signals. 16:26:42 <joepie91> ok 16:27:02 <joepie91> so the entry signal goes green when at least one of the exit signals after it is green? 16:27:08 <Zuu> Start with station entrys and use them there and experiment with other usages. 16:27:17 <Zuu> Yes that is correct. 16:28:30 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F462.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:28:48 <joepie91> ok 16:29:02 <joepie91> and what is the effect of putting two exit signs after each other? 16:29:08 <joepie91> does it influence the entry sign? 16:30:15 <Zuu> if you have two exit signals (white sign below the light) there is no special thing hapening. The first one, closest to the entry signal will show green when the railway block after the signal is free. 16:31:11 <joepie91> ah, ok 16:31:18 <joepie91> i will try to make some constructions now :P 16:31:18 <joepie91> brb 16:31:41 <Zuu> What sometimes is used is to put the third pre-signal type "combo" infront of an exit signal. Then the combo signal shows the status green if at least on exit behind the combo signal shows green. 16:32:17 <Zuu> At the same moment the combo signal acts as an exit signal to the first entry signal. 16:33:22 <Zuu> if you have: entry -> combo -> exit, then the entry shows the status of the exit signal, if you just have one of each. 16:34:06 <Zuu> (and that there are no trains blocking the blocks between, because if there is a train in a block all signals leading to that block will be red. 16:34:09 <Zuu> ) 16:34:11 <glx> <joepie91> hmm isnt DorpsGek dutch? his name is dutch :P <-- you can try to talk to it, but don't expect an answer :) 16:43:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.204.46] has joined #openttd 16:44:10 *** Mortal is now known as Guest951 16:44:12 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:44:18 *** Sebbe [Sebbe@x1-6-00-16-41-59-ea-88.k332.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 16:46:58 <Belugas> hint hint hint --> "it" <-- 16:48:34 <petern> hurr 16:48:45 <petern> it's name! 16:49:52 <svippery> Its name or it's name? 16:50:03 <petern> it is name 16:50:10 <petern> bastard 16:50:12 <svippery> I knew it! 16:50:15 <petern> correcting me like that :p 16:51:04 *** svippery is now known as svip 16:51:11 <svip> English is a harsh mistress. 16:51:21 <mortal> its name 16:51:29 *** Guest951 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:07 <joepie91> yay! 16:52:13 <joepie91> i got a route working 16:52:15 <joepie91> with presignals 16:52:19 <svip> O: 16:52:19 <joepie91> and waypoints :) 16:52:21 <joepie91> http://i37.tinypic.com/28mps1z.png 16:52:24 <svip> Amazing. 16:52:52 <svip> What language is that? 16:52:56 <joepie91> Dutch :) 16:53:04 <svip> It seems to be imitating English. 16:53:04 <svip> Ah, Dutch. 16:53:08 <svip> The language of the Future. 16:53:12 <joepie91> but its a bit weird of a translation :P 16:53:14 <joepie91> lol not really 16:53:20 <joepie91> dutch sucks anyways :) 16:53:28 <svip> It is my prediction that in 2037, the most widely spoken language is Dutch. 16:53:31 <joepie91> too complicated :P 16:53:36 <joepie91> lol 16:53:51 <svip> Maybe 2047. 16:53:57 <joepie91> u know where they speak Dutch? :P 16:54:13 <svip> You see, the Netherlands will come out as the winners of this crisis. 16:54:24 <svip> And they will rise as an empire and take over the world. 16:54:30 <svip> Before the Chinese gets their arses together. 16:54:47 <joepie91> lol 16:54:48 <svip> In the end, we will be talking a mixture of Chinese and Dutch in 2072. 16:55:01 <joepie91> at least somebody knows in what country dutch is spoken :P 16:55:09 <svip> I dunno its name in English, cause English won't be spoken by then. 16:55:13 <mortal> dutch is awesome 16:55:17 <joepie91> lol 16:55:26 <joepie91> are there any dutch people paying attention right now? :P 16:55:34 <mortal> I've always wanted to learn Dutch 16:55:41 <svip> Me too. 16:55:47 <mortal> I can read it mostly fine, since it's similar to German, Danish and English, which I know 16:55:58 <joepie91> http://www.speakdutch.nl/ 16:56:00 <svip> OH dear. 16:56:01 <joepie91> :) 16:56:06 <svip> O_O I did not notice mortal was a Dane. 16:56:16 <joepie91> is mortal a dane? :P 16:56:21 <svip> joepie91: A little warning about Danes; they can be VERY intimidating. 16:56:56 <mortal> I never said so, only that I know German, Danish and English and my hostmask might be Danish 16:57:01 <joepie91> lol 16:57:08 <mortal> ...but yeah I'm Danish 16:57:15 <joepie91> haha 16:57:23 <joepie91> scandinavian languages rock :D 16:57:36 <joepie91> but i don't know any of them :( 16:57:38 <svip> Unfortunately, joepie91, I know more Estonian than Dutch. 16:57:38 <mortal> "Ik wens je veel plezier met de lessen." 16:57:41 <joepie91> i just know dutch and english :P 16:57:54 <mortal> I wish you viel pleasure with the reading 16:57:58 <svip> Of course you are Danish, mortal, no one except Danes and crazy people who want to learn Danish. 16:58:35 <joepie91> viel = a lot or much 16:58:38 <mortal> yeah I know 16:58:40 <joepie91> or in dutch: veel 16:58:41 <joepie91> :P 16:58:49 <mortal> who are those svip? 16:58:52 <mortal> the last group there 16:58:54 <joepie91> 17:58 svip Of course you are Danish, mortal, no one except Danes and crazy people who want to learn Danish. 16:58:58 <svip> Well... 16:58:59 <joepie91> i want to learn danish :P 16:59:07 <svip> One of them is joepie91, mortal. 16:59:11 <mortal> ah 16:59:17 <svip> And obviously, he seems crazy. 16:59:21 <joepie91> lol 16:59:22 <svip> Which is no surprise, being Dutch and all. 16:59:24 <joepie91> well ok 16:59:26 <mortal> hej sven .. try to put Ã¥l flavÞrs in yÞr cup at Þnce 16:59:26 <joepie91> thats kinda true :P 16:59:28 <svip> I suspect all Dutchies wants to learn Danish. 16:59:39 <joepie91> whoa whoa 16:59:44 <joepie91> who's called sven here? 16:59:46 <joepie91> :P 16:59:55 <svip> Yeah, isn't it "svend"? 17:00:05 <joepie91> (argh, connection to my ttd server dropped again -_- i hate my internet) 17:00:06 <mortal> it's from toothpaste for dinner 17:00:08 <svip> You sound Swedish, mortal. 17:00:08 <joepie91> uhm 17:00:12 <joepie91> svend = ? 17:00:18 <joepie91> svenska = swedish 17:00:19 <svip> = name 17:00:22 <joepie91> as far as i know :P 17:00:24 <mortal> yeah Svend is a name in Danish 17:00:30 <joepie91> uhm 17:00:34 <joepie91> but who is called svend here then? 17:00:37 <mortal> no one 17:00:42 <svip> No one, I suspect. 17:00:42 <mortal> I was parodying... something 17:00:46 <joepie91> lol 17:00:47 <mortal> I'm not exactly sure 17:00:50 <joepie91> what exactly? 17:00:57 <joepie91> (btw my name is sven :P) 17:01:04 <svip> o_O 17:01:46 <joepie91> lol 17:02:03 <svip> I thought your name was joepie91. 17:02:17 <joepie91> that's my NICKname, dummy -_- 17:02:43 <svip> -o- 17:03:20 <mortal> anyway http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/030107/norway-vacation.gif 17:03:45 <joepie91> anyways 17:03:52 <joepie91> anybody feels like challenging me in openttd? 17:04:01 <joepie91> i now have around 1,2 billion on my own game server 17:04:03 <joepie91> try to beat me :P 17:04:29 <joepie91> it's Evilzone.org TTD #1 :P 17:04:55 <Zuu> joepie91: In 2.5 hours auto nightly server might get restarted if there is a new nightly. 17:05:53 <Zuu> see #openttd.nightly 17:06:28 <Prof_Frink> joepie91: What, annual profit? 17:06:58 <joepie91> nope 17:06:59 <joepie91> cash 17:07:04 <joepie91> annual profit is around.. 17:07:06 <Prof_Frink> Boring. 17:07:06 <joepie91> lemme check 17:07:20 <joepie91> 16 million 17:07:34 <joepie91> euro 17:07:53 <joepie91> beat me :P 17:08:23 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:08:24 <petern> minimum number of terraformed tiles! 17:08:32 <petern> that's my kind of contest, heh 17:08:42 <joepie91> .. 17:08:45 <svip> Terraformed? 17:08:51 <svip> You mean modified. 17:09:04 <svip> You did not provide an ecosystem for those tiles, did you? 17:10:12 <Belugas> smart ass 17:10:19 <svip> That's me! 17:10:43 <Belugas> so you are :S 17:10:50 <mortal> terra·form [vn] to make a planet more like Earth, so that people can live on it 17:11:19 <svip> I just don't like misuse of the word "terraform", Belugas. 17:12:05 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:12:11 <petern> part of terraforming is modifying surface topography 17:12:39 <svip> Yes, petern, but the planet in OpenTTD has already been terraformed or is a natural inhabitable planet. 17:12:55 <petern> sigh 17:13:00 <svip> Well, that is my assumption. 17:13:18 <Forked> is OpenTTD taking place on another planet? 17:13:24 <petern> it could do 17:13:27 <petern> tto could! 17:13:27 <glx> mars 17:13:29 <mortal> s/planet/world/ 17:13:58 <joepie91> wow 17:14:10 <mortal> let's not offend the flat earth society 17:14:11 <joepie91> are the conversations here always of such *high* level? :P 17:14:22 <Prof_Frink> Forked: TTO did. 17:14:48 <Prof_Frink> Well, TTWE technically 17:15:50 <petern> i suppose we ought to rename src/terraform_* ? 17:18:38 <Belugas> terraform in OpenTTD means landscaping 17:18:55 <Belugas> as usual, people forget about the fact OpenTTD HAS A REALITY OF ITS OWN!!!! 17:19:03 <petern> yeah, it's not real 17:19:12 <Belugas> yup yup yup 17:19:15 <petern> therefore it's being made ... like earth ;)_ 17:19:29 <svip> :o 17:19:32 <Belugas> out of bits and members ;) 17:23:37 <fjb> And flat. 17:23:51 <Belugas> and sharp 17:24:03 <Belugas> ho... no... that's music, sorry... 17:24:32 <fjb> And checked. 17:24:47 <Belugas> yes, mate 17:24:59 <Belugas> check-mate... got it? 17:25:08 <fjb> :-) 17:25:30 <Belugas> fuck i'm drunk 17:25:37 <svip> lol 17:28:37 <petern> mmm, booze 17:28:44 <petern> a clever idea 17:29:14 * petern ponders wine, or beer 17:29:16 * thingwath wants beer! :-( 17:30:00 * Belugas is on wine 17:30:02 <Belugas> still 17:30:52 * fjb serves orange juice. We may have kids here. 17:31:13 * joepie91 kicks orange juice out of the room, even though he doesn't drink alcohol 17:31:13 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@p57B0C540.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:23 * joepie91 accidentally hit Dr_Jekyll 17:31:48 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:53 <fjb> Hide from Mr. Hyde. 17:31:59 <thingwath> luckily I have at least some kofola and I don't have to drink water, blah 17:32:04 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm22.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:40:18 *** joepie91 [53a0acbd@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause> <Belugas> and sharp <- a "sharp" does not appear in my kind of music... 17:41:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm more of a "flat" person :p 17:43:49 <Belugas> i'm a minor 7th, 6th and even 9th kinda chord player 17:44:06 <Belugas> that is when my guit is in standard tuning ^_^ 17:44:22 <Belugas> otherwise, good luck naming th chords! 17:44:52 <Eddi|zuHause> 2 or 3 â is my "natural habitat", 1 or 4 â are ok, 0 or 5 â i have to watch out for hitting the right note occasionally and when it comes to the â¯, i am usually totally lost 17:45:27 <Eddi|zuHause> 6â is fun ;) 17:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the strange thing is... there are mnemonics for the â-keys, but never can remember the mnemonics, only the names of the keys themselves 17:49:16 <Eddi|zuHause> (F B Es As Des Ges) 17:49:30 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 17:49:58 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the opposite with the â¯-keys, there i can only ever remember the mnemonic 17:50:33 <Eddi|zuHause> ("Geh Du Alter Esel Hole Fisch" ~> G D A E H Fis) 17:53:44 *** vraa_ [~vraa@h158.188.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:05 * Belugas fills up his glass 17:54:20 <SmatZ> :-) what are you drinking, Belugas? 17:54:45 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 17:54:47 <Belugas> don't use mnemonics, Eddi|zuHause. I just need to know the shape of the chords and move them up and down the neck. 17:54:53 <Belugas> wine, dear SmatZ, wine 17:55:18 <SmatZ> Belugas: alone? :( 17:56:14 *** vraa [~vraa@h66.69.89.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:32 * SmatZ is drinking with Belugas ^_^ 17:59:44 * glx is drinking aspirin 17:59:53 <SmatZ> poor glx :( 18:00:00 <Belugas> not alone. colleagues around too 18:00:08 <glx> just a cold 18:00:11 <Belugas> sorry for you, glx. 18:00:27 <Belugas> come here, the cold will kill your cold 18:00:28 <Belugas> hohohoh 18:01:03 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: that's what i was trying to say, for the keys that i encounter very often, i don't know the mnemonics, for the other keys, i can't remember them without the mnemonic 18:01:50 <Eddi|zuHause> and of course i don't think in chords... my job is to give the base notes, for the chords and the melody, there is the rest orchestra :p 18:02:51 <SmatZ> ahh, happy Belugas :) 18:04:36 <thingwath> what a pity there is not enough wine to make everyone on the world happy :-/ 18:04:43 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 18:05:24 <SmatZ> there is wine for everyone! www.winehq.org 18:05:44 <thingwath> :-) 18:05:45 <SmatZ> thingwath: do you have a sed mood? 18:05:47 <SmatZ> *sad 18:05:49 <SmatZ> :-x 18:05:58 <Eddi|zuHause> the strange thing is, that is what i think every time i read "wine" :p 18:06:04 <SmatZ> me too :) 18:06:19 <thingwath> huh. 18:06:30 <Eddi|zuHause> especially since the real wine is not spellt "wine" in my native language 18:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: s/sed/sad/ :p 18:07:08 <Eddi|zuHause> when you're in a sed mood ;) 18:07:16 <SmatZ> hehehe 18:08:02 <thingwath> I've been using emacs last few week, so no sed mood for me. 18:09:13 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:15 <Belugas> i understand what you mean, Eddi|zuHause, 'bout tghe chordsa nd all l 18:09:21 <Belugas> been there too 18:09:49 * Belugas enjoys the offixe, for once, SmatZ ;) 18:10:12 <Eddi|zuHause> your keyboard can't possibly enjoy you today :p 18:10:23 <SmatZ> :-) 18:12:51 <glx> not worse than other days ;) 18:12:58 <SmatZ> hehe 18:13:32 <SmatZ> I bought today beer, 8Kc (~0,3 E) per bottle (0,5l) 18:13:35 <SmatZ> and it's very fine :) 18:14:05 <SmatZ> too bad people become fat because of drinking beer :-x 18:15:03 <Belugas> hehehe 18:15:13 <Zuu> That is lots of mony for a bottle concidering that your beer taxes are much lower than here in Sweden :p 18:15:14 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@cp734887-a.gelen1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 18:15:24 <SmatZ> indeed, Zuu 18:15:35 <SmatZ> errr 18:15:42 <SmatZ> no :) I think it is very cheap 18:16:02 <SmatZ> I haven't seen cheaper beer in the west Europe actually :) 18:16:24 <thingwath> Some should return the bottles. 18:16:27 <Zuu> hmm, noo, well muliplied by 100 insted of 10 to get it in swedish kronor :p 18:16:46 <thingwath> someone, hm 18:17:48 <SmatZ> 8 Czech koruny = 3.30259214 Swedish kronor :) 18:17:58 <thingwath> there are ~50 of them, 3 crowns each, hurrah, I'm such a great investor. 18:18:09 <Zuu> Almost PI then.. :p 18:18:17 <SmatZ> of course I am returning bottles 18:18:31 <thingwath> me too, but not very often 18:18:36 <SmatZ> I used to return bottles for water... but they sell water in plastic bottles nowadays 18:18:56 <Zuu> which also can be returned, can't they? 18:19:08 <thingwath> not here 18:19:23 <SmatZ> no 18:20:01 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3164.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 18:20:31 <SmatZ> hello frosch123! 18:21:00 <frosch123> afternoon/evening smatz :) 18:21:05 <Zuu> You'll have to change the bar code and bring them here :-p 18:23:06 <SmatZ> hehe 18:23:14 <Zuu> That's caring about the environment, sending them over half europe to return them :p 18:23:24 <SmatZ> :-D 18:23:48 <thingwath> I would like to use just tap water... 18:24:36 <yorick> who needs bottled water? 18:24:36 <Zuu> Like, Vattenfall, they had a campaign where you could sign on their website, and they would fabricate a small yellow man in plastic that they would send through europe as some campaign for the environment... 18:24:55 <thingwath> yorick: me :-/ 18:24:57 <yorick> :D 18:25:20 <yorick> they invented taps for that 18:26:10 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@100-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 18:26:11 <thingwath> Yep, and mostly it works. 18:26:24 <Zuu> I wished they had empty bottles you could buy when you forget your bottle at home. And then just take som water from the washrooms at university. 18:26:37 <thingwath> But not here, tap water is so disguisting here :-( 18:27:08 <SmatZ> I drink tea most of the time 18:27:11 <SmatZ> and I drink a lot 18:27:29 <SmatZ> ~3 litres of tea and ~2 litres of water a day 18:27:30 <Zuu> Here, tap water is often as good as or better than bottle water, still people buy it on bottle. 18:27:34 <yorick> we have the cleanest tap water of whole europe here 18:27:41 <SmatZ> bottled water though... 18:27:59 <thingwath> yorick: 'we'? :-) 18:28:03 <yorick> the dutch 18:28:15 <yorick> the only place I drink bottled water is france 18:28:23 <thingwath> well, I guess it's pretty good almost everywhere, except Brno 18:28:29 <frosch123> [19:30] <yorick> we have the cleanest tap water of whole europe here <- do not drink distilled water 18:28:33 <SmatZ> hehe 18:29:48 <glx> <yorick> the only place I drink bottled water is france <-- why? 18:30:04 <thingwath> tap water here taste like rust, blah 18:30:10 <SmatZ> :-x 18:31:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:31:11 <Belugas> because the springwaters are good in Frnace! 18:31:25 *** edeca [~david@lenny.lionserver.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:31:51 <glx> in britain it's understandable to drink bottled water, but that's all 18:31:55 <Zuu> Belugas: You sound like me when I've mixed dvorak and querty to much :p 18:32:11 <thingwath> Frnace! Nice :-) 18:32:17 <Zuu> qwerty* 18:32:37 <SmatZ> Belugas is enjoying his evening :) 18:32:43 <SmatZ> and it's very good 18:32:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:23 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:43 <yorick> because tap water in france tastes like rust 18:35:19 <SmatZ> I am sorry for you, yorick :-x 18:35:20 <Zuu> Isn't it more like afternoon in east Canada now. 18:35:39 <SmatZ> depends what you call 13:35 :) 18:35:46 <yorick> fortunatly I do not live in france :) 18:35:55 <SmatZ> but glx does :-P 18:35:57 <thingwath> you can boil it, if you don't mind cleaning the kettle every two days 18:36:03 <SmatZ> hehe 18:36:15 <SmatZ> Zuu: 18:36:25 <SmatZ> errr... Zuu: I would call it "afternoon" too ;) 18:36:45 <Zuu> hehe ok, for a minute I though you would write something serious. :) 18:36:53 <Zuu> s/minute/seconds/ 18:36:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host121-194-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:36:58 * yorick is sorry for glx 18:37:05 <Wolf01> hello 18:38:32 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 18:38:53 <Zuu> Bha, I've eaten all my "lussekatter" (translates to "St. Lucia Bun" according to wikipedia) 18:39:15 <SmatZ> hello Wolf01 18:39:20 <Zuu> Hello 18:39:41 <SmatZ> :) Zuu 18:40:19 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40:36 <Zuu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lussekatt 18:41:16 <benjamingoodger> oh, those are delicious, we make them in cornwall as a local delicacy 18:41:54 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@100-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:16 <edeca> It's much harder to make money with ECS, bah! :) 18:42:25 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42:53 <Belugas> yup, beginning of afternoon 18:43:32 <Zuu> and already drunk, how is thins going to end... ;-D 18:43:33 <edeca> benjamingoodger: Ah, Engrish person? 18:43:52 <benjamingoodger> depends who you ask 18:44:08 <benjamingoodger> but cornwall is generally accepted (by those who matter) as being part of england 18:44:12 <benjamingoodger> and I was born in england 18:44:19 <benjamingoodger> so yes, I suppose. how can I be of service? 18:44:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BDC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:03 <Belugas> it will and at 5, wen the bus brings me home 18:45:06 <Belugas> mmm 18:45:10 <Belugas> WILL bring me home 18:45:32 <benjamingoodger> Belugas: BTW it is idiomatically permissible to use either 18:45:40 <edeca> benjamingoodger: Heh, was just interested! As long as you renounce Cornwall's language/flag/independance you're just as english as me :) 18:46:28 <Belugas> it is? well... not to offend you, but i'll wait fr mister Nelson's approbation :) 18:47:04 <Belugas> my preferred loyal subject of the rolay majesty 18:47:06 <Belugas> or somehting 18:47:42 <benjamingoodger> how much exactly have you had, belugas? :S 18:47:53 <benjamingoodger> edeca: born in Bucks, where are you? 18:48:04 <Zuu> So Nelson was/is an important person in Canadas history? 18:48:07 <edeca> benjamingoodger: Beds actually, so not far 18:48:47 <Belugas> Zuu, no, he is a very importat person in OpenTTD's hystory 18:48:53 <benjamingoodger> ah, my mother used to commute to bedford... we lived in rushden until I was five 18:48:54 <glx> Zuu: in french history too IIRC :) 18:49:04 <Zuu> Belugas: Okay :) 18:49:06 <benjamingoodger> then moved to cornwall, to have my accent mocked forever ¬.¬ 18:49:27 <Belugas> benjamingoodger, not enough to be an idito, enough to be still logical, and too much to be sober 18:49:51 <benjamingoodger> hmmmm 18:51:38 <Belugas> tooobe too be, tootoootoo be toom toom beee 18:52:40 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:53:38 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:55:01 <Zuu> I see, nelson was an important person in English/British history, which is why you find streets named after him in Britich Columbia, Canada. 18:55:23 <edeca> Yes, he was fairly important ;) 18:55:36 <edeca> And was pickled in spirits on his trip home, mmmm 18:56:21 <Belugas> well... right now, i think he is more on tf2 18:56:23 <edeca> Has anybody considered writing a 'proper' stock market for ottd? It would be great to bankrupt the AI creatively ;) 18:56:41 <Belugas> beurk... 18:57:07 <glx> AI is weird enough to bankrupt itself 18:57:19 <Zuu> edeca: A stock market that works better than the one we have in real life? 18:57:35 <edeca> Zuu: Nah, just as bad as real life would be fine ;) 18:57:48 <Belugas> then, useless to code 18:57:55 <Belugas> fuck real life in ottd!! 18:58:03 <edeca> glx: I just invest in 75% of the AI when it is cheap and sell for profit 18:58:21 <edeca> Belugas: value = rand() + 42; 18:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause> <Zuu> Isn't it more like afternoon in east Canada now. <- that's what we call "Restalkohol", i.e. alcohol that carried over from last night's party 18:59:36 <edeca> Perhaps accidents could dent the price, allow 1% purchase not 25% or something 19:00:12 <Zuu> Eddi|zuHause: That word makes perfectly sense in Swedish too. Through not something I've heard anyone use. 19:01:05 <Zuu> edeca: after the aircrash of SpanAir half the value of that company was gone. 19:01:21 <edeca> Zuu: Yep, something like that would stop me from investing in 75% for profit! 19:01:36 <yorick> what's currently stopping from extending the amount of client slots? 19:01:39 <yorick> no client pool? 19:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Zuu: i think the word came up here in context of traffic police checks 19:02:19 <Eddi|zuHause> where a person was pulled out in the morning, and they still found significant amount of alcohol in his blood 19:02:26 <glx> yorick: it's more a limit in UPD packet size IIRC 19:02:39 <yorick> the clients are no longer sent in the UDP packet 19:02:54 <yorick> ;) 19:03:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the wwottdgd people had to do some significant hacks for their 50 clients patch 19:03:57 <yorick> they're not needed anymore 19:04:06 <yorick> only one constant needs to be changed 19:04:35 <Eddi|zuHause> there were things about colour changing and stuff 19:05:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-67-165.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:05:31 *** yorick is now known as Guest965 19:05:41 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:10 <yorick> colour changing should have nothing to do with it 19:07:10 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:29 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:10:42 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:12:08 *** Guest965 [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:16 * Belugas yawns 19:15:52 * benjamingoodger pokes belugas 19:16:09 * benjamingoodger has been up for 31 hours and isn't yet yawning 19:16:25 <Eddi|zuHause> in soviet russia, belugas pukes you! :p 19:16:49 <benjamingoodger> let's hope not 19:17:38 <Belugas> SNAP SNAP SNAP!! 19:18:41 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... is there a proper translation of "Schwedische Gardinen"? [as in "behind bars"/"in jail"] 19:19:36 <benjamingoodger> swedish curtains? 19:19:53 <benjamingoodger> we have a phrase "it's curtains for you!" but I don't think we have swedish curtains 19:20:13 <Eddi|zuHause> so it does not have the same connotation 19:20:26 <Prof_Frink> "swedish curtains" eh? 19:21:02 <benjamingoodger> I suppose not 19:23:17 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g226147237.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:23:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no idea why the curtains are supposed to be swedish :p 19:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> opposing to a "swedish drink", which has a clear origin in the 30 years war 19:27:33 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 19:30:44 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g226151116.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:44 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 19:30:44 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-26-67-165.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 19:31:52 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 19:39:38 *** CommanderZ [~Miranda@81.30.238.40] has joined #openttd 19:40:04 <CommanderZ> hi 19:40:10 <CommanderZ> what are these two files? 19:40:10 <CommanderZ> #include "unicode/ubidi.h" 19:40:11 <CommanderZ> #include "unicode/ushape.h" 19:40:46 <Belugas> those look suspiciously like header files to me 19:41:10 <CommanderZ> i meant...where can I get them? 19:42:14 <petern> they should come with whatever's trying to use them 19:42:39 <CommanderZ> ottd is trying to use them and they didn't come with it :) 19:43:36 <petern> then that's probably a bug 19:43:52 <petern> should be using <> if it's not part of the project, i thought 19:45:03 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:22 <CommanderZ> oh, may it be that they come with windows platform sdk? it seems I deleted it for some reason unknown to me 19:45:47 * Rubidium points CommanderZ to the website 19:47:04 <Zuu> CommanderZ: the usefull zip got updated a while ago. 19:47:46 <CommanderZ> I see, I missed it somehow 19:48:11 <glx> CommanderZ: libicu 19:48:23 <glx> it's in usefull.zip 19:48:58 <Zuu> CommanderZ: So did I, though the ottd build system for VS had got broken :p 19:49:23 <glx> nightlies are built with VS 19:49:40 <glx> so we take care of not breaking VS 19:50:43 <Belugas> if /me was a courageous young man, he would eventually search google to know what those files are exactly 19:51:27 * Zuu waves to his clip line function that now clips away lines that has both x or both y coordinates outside of the clip rect. :) 19:52:39 <CommanderZ> I googled them, but i had no idea what would they do in OTTD (or why my ottd suddenly doesn't compile now) 19:53:25 <CommanderZ> aah, it works now. thanks guys :) 19:54:01 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:54:01 <Rubidium> you could've looked at the few lines around the includes to get a clue what they are use for 19:54:22 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 20:04:39 *** dfox [~dfox@r5cv134.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:16:24 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:17:48 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:14 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:15 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 20:21:41 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:31:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r14668 /trunk/src/gfx.cpp: -Change: use include <> instead of include "" when including ICU's headers. 20:33:38 *** George__ [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920]] 20:36:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.201.84] has joined #openttd 20:40:04 *** joepie91 [53a0acbd@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:40:44 <joepie91> hey 20:41:31 <joepie91> anybody here? 20:41:34 <welshdragon> no 20:42:06 <joepie91> ah 20:42:08 <joepie91> :P 20:42:14 <joepie91> i got a little problem again 20:42:39 <welshdragon> which is...? 20:42:41 <joepie91> i have trains running from a factory to a city station 20:42:44 <joepie91> transporting goods 20:42:51 <joepie91> but there are no goods accepted 20:43:00 <joepie91> so the train is configured to leave the goods at the station 20:43:02 <joepie91> and there are trams 20:43:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.204.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:05 <joepie91> that pick up the goods there 20:43:06 <welshdragon> find a station that accepts goods 20:43:16 <joepie91> and transport it to the inner of the city 20:43:18 *** rubyruy [~ruy@S0106000c6e57c851.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:19 <joepie91> that all works fine 20:43:26 <joepie91> but when the trams deliver something 20:43:29 <joepie91> it costs me money 20:43:33 <joepie91> instead of making profit 20:43:46 <joepie91> i've been googling for why, but i couldnt find the reason 20:44:19 <welshdragon> what commands to the trauins have at that station? 20:44:25 <welshdragon> *trains 20:44:40 *** FloSoft` [~sifldoer@g229127089.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:44:53 <joepie91> they pickup with the load command 20:45:06 <joepie91> and they deliver at the city with the... "... and return empty" command 20:45:13 <joepie91> (my game is dutch, i dont know the translation) 20:45:14 <Yexo> joepie91: see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=36345 20:46:03 <welshdragon> i was aboutto say exactly what yexo pointed oout 20:46:10 <joepie91> ah, i see 20:46:14 <joepie91> i'll read it now :P 20:47:49 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 20:48:08 *** FloSoft [~sifldoer@g229166036.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:48:08 *** FloSoft` is now known as FloSoft 20:48:27 <joepie91> ah 20:48:29 <joepie91> i see 20:48:34 <joepie91> i understand it now :P 20:48:37 <joepie91> thanks 20:48:50 <joepie91> (and yexo, i see you posted the answer there :P) 20:49:55 <Yexo> it was one of the first threads that popped up on a forum search in the problems sections for "transfer" 20:50:21 <joepie91> oh 20:50:23 <joepie91> well 20:50:28 <joepie91> i used google and couldnt find it there :P 20:50:40 <joepie91> also... even if i opened the forums... the topic title isn't very descriptive :) 20:50:46 <welshdragon> never use google for things like that 20:50:49 <joepie91> maybe if the topic was changed that would be better :0 20:50:51 <joepie91> :)*\ 20:50:56 <joepie91> hmm 20:51:00 <welshdragon> use the search feature on www.tt-forums.net 20:51:03 <joepie91> google usually points to the openttd wiki anyways :) 20:51:10 <joepie91> ok, will do :) 20:51:18 <Yexo> joepie91: I don't blame you for not finding that thread, but the issue pops up regurarly and the problems is always people using tranfer orders when they don't understand how they work 20:52:21 * Belugas transfers the content of his glass in his mouth 20:52:47 <Belugas> problem is that contary to OTTD, there is a real impact now 20:53:13 <welshdragon> you are more drunk? 20:53:46 <benjamingoodger> I have a suspicion that there would be less dupes if phpmyadmin's search functionality wasn't so appalling 20:53:59 <frosch123> [21:54] * Belugas transfers the content of his glass in his mouth <- you were used to mugs, weren't you :) 20:55:16 <Belugas> for coffee, frosch123. Just coffee :) 20:55:25 <Belugas> welshdragon, no, i'm getting better 20:55:44 <Belugas> lunch time made miracles ;) 20:55:54 *** Purno [~Purno@5350931D.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56:29 <joepie91> also... when i use the transfer system for a tram to pick up the goods from a train halfway, because the train cant get close enoguh, am i using it right? 20:57:13 <Yexo> yep, but even if you're using it right it can show a negative figure 20:57:41 <frosch123> it works better when the fastest vehicle is the last in the chain 20:57:55 <frosch123> also it does only work oneway transportation 21:05:41 <glx> which is ok for goods 21:06:02 *** genclay [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:06:10 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-37-165.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:06:45 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:20 *** Yeggstry [~mind@host-1.event-dsl.multiplay.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:11 * SpComb just finished reading his K&R 21:16:20 <SpComb> took me a while to get around to reading it 21:17:22 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet596.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:18:11 <SmatZ> :) 21:18:28 <SmatZ> gratz SpComb, do you remember most of it? 21:18:40 <SmatZ> I read the C99 standard, but I can't say I know it :-x 21:18:45 <SmatZ> *TC3 21:19:12 <SpComb> there were a couple new things, but most of the stuff I already knew 21:19:25 <SpComb> it did clarify some things re alignment or int promotion, though 21:20:10 *** genclay is now known as Yeggs|SLAN 21:20:13 <SmatZ> good :) 21:20:22 <SpComb> I'm a bit unsure how you're supposed to write a varargs function that takes uint16_t/uint32_t/uint64_t arguments, though :/ 21:20:32 <SpComb> because uint16_t gets promoted to int 21:20:44 <SpComb> so it seems kind of scary 21:24:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 21:28:05 *** nekx [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 21:37:13 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:56 <Belugas> can I get a promotion too? 21:44:13 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has joined #openttd 21:45:08 * SpComb promotes Belugas to an unsigned long float 21:45:54 <Belugas> float 21:45:56 <Belugas> i like that 21:49:03 <SmatZ> hahaah 21:49:16 <Zuu> @logs 21:49:57 <Zuu> hmm, whatever promotion - it sounds interesting :) 21:50:31 <SpComb> you can put it on your business card 21:50:40 * SpComb is currently a "Software Development" 21:51:47 <SmatZ> :) 21:52:59 * Eddi|zuHause is currently a "cand. Dipl. Inf" 21:53:13 <TrueBrain> Infidel? 21:53:21 * Belugas is currently a long float 21:53:31 <SpComb> unsigned! 21:53:38 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: I guess "cand. Inf." without the "Dipl." :) 21:53:44 * benjamingoodger is currently a Publishers 21:53:45 <Belugas> nope. since then, i' 21:53:47 <Belugas> ve 21:53:50 <Belugas> signed my check 21:53:59 <Belugas> therefor, im signed 21:54:04 <SpComb> hrmph 21:54:06 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that wouldn't make much sense 21:54:14 <SmatZ> :-D @ Belugas 21:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: silence! 21:55:09 <TrueBrain> @op 21:55:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 21:55:13 *** mode/#openttd [+q *!truebrain@openttd.org] by TrueBrain 21:55:16 <TrueBrain> like this? :p 21:55:18 <TrueBrain> @deop 21:55:21 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 21:55:40 * Zuu tries to disobey the silence 21:57:06 *** mode/#openttd [-q *!truebrain@openttd.org] by DorpsGek 21:57:06 <TrueBrain> YEAH! 21:57:09 <TrueBrain> I can talk again :) 22:03:44 *** fjb [~frank@p5485CF35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:05 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:08:37 <Belugas> LIBERTY!!! 22:08:53 <glx> have a nice week end with snow Belugas :) 22:08:54 <Belugas> Let's ride home like a crazed rabbit!! 22:09:02 <TrueBrain> enjoy Belugas :) 22:09:02 <Belugas> thanks, you too, glx :) 22:09:08 <TrueBrain> eat some snow for me :) 22:09:15 <Belugas> and you too TrueBrain 22:09:18 <Belugas> ehmm.. 22:09:24 <benjamingoodger> nokton Belugas 22:09:28 <Belugas> the enjoy, not the snow eating stuff ;S 22:09:35 <Belugas> ben, I salute ya 22:09:37 <Belugas> bye all 22:09:40 * Belugas is gone 22:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> by the german constitution, dignity is the highest good of a human, not liberty 22:10:25 <Yexo> TrueBrain: you made me curious with your post in the heightmaps thread. How 'automatic' is your system? 22:10:47 <joepie91> is DorpsGek a bot? 22:10:52 <glx> as much as it can Yexo 22:11:02 <Eddi|zuHause> is joepie91 a turing test candidate? 22:11:22 <glx> joepie91: you tried to talk to it? 22:11:37 <benjamingoodger> joepie91: there are three apples on the table. I take two of them away. how many do I have? 22:12:25 <joepie91> two 22:12:29 <joepie91> since you took two away 22:12:30 <Yexo> glx: so how much input does it need, only coordinates of the map edges? 22:12:33 <joepie91> and there's one on the table 22:12:39 * benjamingoodger proclaims joepie91 is a non-bot 22:12:45 <joepie91> nice try tricking me :P 22:20:27 *** Leif_ [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 22:20:48 *** joepie91 [53a0acbd@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:25:33 *** Leif__ [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 22:25:56 *** Terkhen [~ircap@147.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [] 22:26:35 *** Leif__ is now known as Zuu_ 22:27:09 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:27:44 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 22:28:19 *** Zuu is now known as Guest993 22:29:19 *** Guest993 [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 22:32:49 *** Leif_ [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:39 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:12 *** FR^2 [frr@oscar.frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 22:40:58 *** Leif_ [~Zuu@c-a4fbe253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 22:41:20 *** Leif_ is now known as Zuu 22:45:17 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 22:46:33 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:49:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3164.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:42 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred_furs@resnet596.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:56:09 *** Ne_Mic [~Ne_Mic@e182120182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 22:56:33 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet596.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:43 *** CommanderZ [~Miranda@81.30.238.40] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:10 <Ne_Mic> hi, I've just started to do some models for the Enhanced GFX but I can't find some good blueprints of train engines, anybody who have some hints for me where i could find some 23:02:37 <TrueBrain> Yexo: as automated as it gets 23:02:43 <TrueBrain> gimme some latitude and longitude coordinates 23:02:49 <TrueBrain> and gimme some width and height (in lat and lon) 23:03:00 <TrueBrain> and I can produce you a map (of in theory any size, but max resolution is 1200 px/dg) 23:03:11 <Yexo> nice :) 23:03:21 <TrueBrain> yup 23:03:27 <TrueBrain> just now I need to access VMap0 data 23:03:34 <TrueBrain> to get correct seas/lakes/rivers 23:03:40 <TrueBrain> but that is a pain in the ass 23:03:49 <TrueBrain> (as VMap0 data is not really .. consistant :() 23:04:19 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 23:04:21 <Yexo> for a map of the netherlands you'll need that data (or a lot of manual work) :p 23:04:32 <TrueBrain> manual work is not in my dictonary :) 23:04:42 <TrueBrain> I refuse to do anything specific for any place 23:04:47 <TrueBrain> so far it works out fairly well :) 23:04:54 <TrueBrain> but in that map, check the really big images :p 23:05:00 <TrueBrain> be careful, FireFox doesn't load them :) 23:05:08 <TrueBrain> (map as in url without imageNNN.png) 23:05:22 <TrueBrain> the last image only is loadable in OpenTTD, the rest is not 23:05:28 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-153-7.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [] 23:07:31 <Yexo> there are some really nice maps there :) 23:07:35 <TrueBrain> yup :) 23:07:37 <TrueBrain> SRTM data :) 23:10:38 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-153-7.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 23:11:48 *** mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:56 <Rubidium> Ne_Mic: you could look in the graphics sections of OpenTTD and TTDPatch on the forum or in the "Game: Guess the train" thread in the general transport discussion forum; they might contains links to websites with blueprints 23:16:09 <Yexo> bah, loading a heightmap causes an infinite loop with my 'remove water edges" patch :( 23:18:59 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:21:48 *** csanchez_ [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #openttd 23:22:43 <Ne_Mic> Rubidium: Thank you 23:23:01 *** csanchez_ [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has left #openttd [] 23:23:15 <TrueBrain> Yexo: so a big to fix :) 23:24:28 <Yexo> yep, but I first need to change st->airport_tile (and train_tile/dock_tile) to contain INVALID_TILE instead of 0 when there is no airport 23:24:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BDC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24:48 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred_furs@resnet596.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:08 <Yexo> and the patch is already 51kb ;) 23:25:36 <Rubidium> don't forget the tunnels and bridges 23:25:53 *** Dred_furst [~Dred_furs@resnet596.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:26:03 *** Lodrezoh [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #openttd 23:26:44 <Yexo> it's already impossible to build a tunnel going out the map 23:27:12 *** Lodrezoh [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has left #openttd [] 23:27:13 <Yexo> only the signal-updating code asserst for rail bridges (and most likely tunnels ending at the edge) 23:27:20 <benjamingoodger> that would be interesting 23:28:04 <benjamingoodger> position two tunnels at the same y-coord on left-right/right-left edges on two maps, and run trains between them. servers burn slightly, but it would be fun to watch 23:29:18 *** lodrezoh [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #openttd 23:30:51 <lodrezoh> is it a known issue that suddenly railway stations appear corrupted (wrong orientation)? 23:31:00 <lodrezoh> at least in os x 23:31:22 <Rubidium> Yexo: isn't it much easier to add MP_VOID at the northern edges too? 23:31:24 <Yexo> lodrezoh: have you recently updated any grf file? 23:31:59 <lodrezoh> Yexo: well, just downloaded the whole thing and got some the GRFs from an old TTD 23:32:06 <Yexo> Rubidium: that prevents some problems, but a lot of functions assume they are called with tile several tiles from the map edge 23:32:11 <lodrezoh> it was working fine 23:32:19 <lodrezoh> but then suddenly i got that effect 23:32:28 <lodrezoh> when running it again 23:33:11 <Rubidium> Yexo: true, but now the patch looks littered with IsValidTiles 23:33:22 <lodrezoh> the strange thing is that the station appears orientated opposit that selected in the station building panel 23:33:47 <lodrezoh> but the graphics are the ones that would correspond to selected orientation 23:33:51 *** Ne_Mic [~Ne_Mic@e182120182.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 23:34:02 <lodrezoh> the result is quite weird... 23:34:07 <Yexo> like ExporeSegment in signals.cpp, it adds TileOffsByDiagDir(exitdir) to tile and assumes that is still a valid tileindex. That assumption wil fail on all edges (not only on the north ones) 23:34:41 <Yexo> Rubidium: it'll become even worse, my local patch is twice as big 23:34:55 <Rubidium> Yexo: what edges are there besides the northern and southern edges? 23:35:14 <Yexo> huh? 23:35:32 <Yexo> all edges as in NE, NW, SE, SW :p 23:35:38 <SmatZ> Yexo: there can't be rails at edges 23:35:46 <Yexo> SmatZ: there can be with my patch :) 23:36:04 <SmatZ> ah :) 23:36:15 <Yexo> but that breaks a lot of assumptions in the current code 23:36:21 <Rubidium> Yexo: northern edges == NE | NW, southern edges == SE | SW; there are already MP_VOID edges at the southern edges 23:36:32 <Rubidium> I propose to add MP_VOID also to the northern edges 23:36:42 <Yexo> but in what cases does that help? 23:37:06 <Yexo> the IsValidTile checks are also needed for the southern edges (as IsValidTile(tile with MP_VOID) returns false) 23:37:09 <Rubidium> any case where it assumes tile - or + 1 (x or y) is valid 23:37:40 <Yexo> but MP_VOID tiles are invalid tiles, not valid 23:38:23 <Rubidium> they are unbuildable and such, but... there aren't invalid indices 23:38:36 <TrueBrain> a very good night to you all 23:38:41 <Yexo> night TrueBrain 23:38:59 <Rubidium> e.g. ExploreSegment won't need changes if you add MP_VOID at the northern edge 23:39:15 <Yexo> most of the places require IsValidTile(tile) (so no MP_VOID tiles), so require only tile < MapSize(), so MP_VOID tiles are ok 23:40:11 <Rubidium> if the requirement is tile < MapSize(), then it handles MP_VOID gracefully too 23:40:16 <Yexo> can ships enter tiles at the northern edge currently? 23:40:21 *** lodrezoh [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has left #openttd [] 23:40:34 <Rubidium> Yexo: yes 23:40:39 <SmatZ> Yexo: are you making an "unlimited" wrapping world? 23:41:01 <Rubidium> oh, hmm.. maybe not; depends on what you mean exactly 23:41:06 <Yexo> SmatZ: not a wrapping world, but I'm trying to allow terraforming the land at the edges 23:41:08 <SmatZ> Yexo: there can even be buoys.... and I think even oit rigs 23:41:18 <Rubidium> they can enter the tiles at the northern edge, they can't cross the edge 23:41:21 <Yexo> are you sure? the tiles with TileY(tile)==0 23:42:16 <Yexo> hmm, that makes adding a row of void tiles harder (converting older savegames at least) 23:42:52 <SmatZ> Yexo: yes... not oil rigs though :) 23:43:11 <SmatZ> but oil rigs can be an southern border (at least they could be in older versions) 23:43:13 *** lodrezoh [~csanchez@80-186-243-139.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #openttd 23:43:34 <Yexo> yes, but the souther border is not a problem anyway 23:45:02 *** mortal` [~mortal@0x573a3da2.odnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is grinning and holding a spatula. Guess not.] 23:46:37 <Rubidium> then don't allow those freeform edges on old savegames? 23:47:42 <Rubidium> OpenTTD in Arabic make it ... uhm ... harder to navigate ;) 23:47:50 <Yexo> I'll first finish the patch without a row of MP_VOID tiles and then see how much can be deleted if that row is introduced 23:48:27 <Rubidium> luckily the translator hasn't reaches STR_PATCH* 23:51:49 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54:35 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:57:36 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Quit: Operator, give me an exit]