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00:02:38 <dihedral> sorry - this is in german: http://www.scholemandfriends.com/Schwachsinn/Eichhoernchen_poppen.jpg 00:04:45 <Eddi|zuHause> typical law-german ;) 00:04:49 <Brokkoli> *G* 00:05:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but where is esterházy? sounds hungarian 00:08:02 <tokai> wtf. is KIKA-Möbel? 00:11:09 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe IKEA is called differently in austria :p 00:13:11 <Brokkoli> look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kika_(Möbelhaus) 00:15:22 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust620.winn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:15 *** wollollo [~martin@dyn1076-184.hor.ic.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:25:08 <planetmaker> http://translator2.openttd.org/ <-- IRC links need updating (they point to freenode) 00:32:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B766ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:45:38 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:47:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:39 *** Tim [~Administr@p5B37DC4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:14 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: apparently nobody cared in over 2 years :P 00:55:27 <glx> cery typical 00:55:30 <glx> *very 01:07:45 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:35 *** Sacro_ [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:15:26 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:35 *** lolman_ [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:20:40 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:23:11 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177230079.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:25:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:30:36 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177238004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:42:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-62-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:07:49 *** apo [apo@pD9E7E102.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:09:47 *** apo_ [apo@pD9E7C394.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:19:40 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 02:19:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Quit] 02:28:08 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-164-137-215.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:28:55 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.222.190] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 02:33:26 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 02:33:26 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34:12 *** Hawson [~hawson@c-98-204-189-235.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:35:06 <Hawson> 'evening all 02:35:39 <Hawson> I've been happily pulling down SVN updates for the last several months, but in the last week or so, I've hit some compile problems 02:36:28 <Hawson> The relevant bits are here: http://pastebin.ca/1349257 02:36:50 <Hawson> This is on a Linux system (Gentoo), and configure was run with no special options 02:39:29 <Sacro_> hmm, strange 02:39:48 <Hawson> just started in the last few days, and has persisted. 02:40:10 <Hawson> I've hit compile bugs with SVN before, but they have been quickly cleared up in a revision or two 02:40:46 <Brokkoli> make clean ? 02:41:24 <Hawson> Brokkoli: did that 02:41:26 <Hawson> twice 02:41:29 <Hawson> and mrproper 02:41:32 <Hawson> and re-ran configure 02:41:45 <Hawson> I suppose I could check out the source again... 02:41:48 <Brokkoli> yes 02:41:52 <Brokkoli> think so too 02:41:58 <Brokkoli> the trunk is ok 02:42:31 <Brokkoli> n8 02:42:32 <Hawson> hmm...I guess I get to download all the extensions again, eh? 02:42:45 <Brokkoli> extensions? 02:42:51 <Brokkoli> newgrfs? 02:42:54 * Hawson nods 02:43:17 <Brokkoli> you don't have to delete them.. 02:43:39 <Hawson> can I just drop them back in place in the new build tree? 02:43:58 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-164-137-215.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:44:08 <Aali> why would you keep newgrfs in your source tree in the first place? :P 02:44:24 <Hawson> Aali: because I just run eveything out of trunk/bin. :-) 02:44:37 <Brokkoli> ok... 02:44:42 <Brokkoli> newgrfs are no source files 02:44:49 <Aali> still, newgrfs should go in the global data dir 02:44:49 <Brokkoli> so it should be no problem 02:45:01 <Aali> so you dont have to move them around for different installs 02:45:05 <Hawson> if I'm going to rebuild every few days... <shrug> 02:45:14 <Hawson> Aali: all I have is the SVN build. 02:45:33 <Hawson> as this is all on a personal laptop, no need to do anything else. 02:45:54 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@e179197107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: In aller Welt werden die Parallelen zur Krise 1929 diskutiert, aber damals wurde wenigstens noch die Verantwortung ÃŒbernommen. Da sind die Banker noch rei] 02:46:22 <Aali> yeah, but if you put the newgrfs in ~/.openttd/data they'll be visible no matter where you start the openttd binary 02:46:25 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-164-137-215.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 02:46:30 <Aali> there's really no downside 02:46:37 <Hawson> Aali: <nod> 02:46:43 <Hawson> I'll do that 02:46:53 <Hawson> I've had no need to before, so never bothered 02:50:49 <Hawson> another question, if you don't mind. I notice in SVN that in the World Generation window, there's options for map edges, but are always greyed out. 02:58:57 <Aali> you have to enable the setting first 02:59:07 <Aali> (under advanced settings) 03:08:30 *** lolman__ [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:08:38 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:29 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:13:38 *** lolman_ [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:46 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:41 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:03:26 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:04:34 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet586.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:21:22 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:23:43 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 04:25:05 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [] 04:26:22 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 04:27:32 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [] 04:28:25 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 04:30:44 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [] 04:31:42 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 04:36:50 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 04:37:27 <zodttd> Hello! 04:37:33 *** goodger_ [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:38:02 *** goodger_ [~ben@host86-158-205-163.range86-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:38:59 <Sacro_> Evening zodttd 04:39:50 <zodttd> Hi Sacro_. Hoping perhaps Darkvater isn't idle atm. 04:41:14 <Sacro_> He'lll be asleep 04:41:33 <zodttd> Ah ok. Snap. :( 04:41:40 <Sacro_> Yeah 04:41:43 <Sacro_> he'll be getting up soon 04:44:01 <zodttd> Great. I don't know the heirarchy of the development team at OpenTTD anymore. I remember speaking to Darkvater in the past though. Just wanted to talk about a current OpenTTD port of mine. 04:46:38 <Aali> perhaps you should just say what you want to say 04:53:14 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 04:53:14 *** Sacro_ [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:57:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:58:25 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-164-137-215.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:05:13 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 05:06:13 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has joined #openttd 05:27:21 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:28:50 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:44:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 05:52:47 *** Arsonide [~Arsonide@24-178-137-255.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #openttd 05:53:31 <Arsonide> Hey I got a little nostalgia and was thinking of reinstalling Locomotion (had a lot of fun with it back in the day), when someone pointed me to this...and it seems to be very similar, apparently there's a lot more to do here though. 05:53:48 <Arsonide> One question though, how do I get music working in OpenTTD? 05:54:25 <|Japa|> open winamp in the background 05:54:42 <|Japa|> unless you actually like the midi's that come with TTD 05:54:56 <Arsonide> I wouldn't mind the midis, if I knew where to put them. 05:55:16 <Arsonide> Just...something, right now I'm hearing saw mills and boat whistles and silence. 05:55:24 <Aali> did you check the wiki? 05:55:30 <Arsonide> There's a wiki? 05:55:34 <|Japa|> ust copy the GM folder from TTD 05:56:48 <Arsonide> Excellent 05:56:49 <Arsonide> Thank you 06:03:03 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:33:11 <Forked> morning 06:39:22 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:44:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F7D1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:02:42 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 07:08:08 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:22 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:09:39 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:16:28 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:16:57 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:22:14 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23:11 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:23:57 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@ppp118-208-66-110.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:26:25 <AshKyd> Does anybody know if âNo Town Bridges within 2 tilesâ or similar functionality ever made it into OpenTTD, and if so how to enable it in the config file? 07:28:25 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:28:41 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 07:43:33 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:05:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.172.252] has joined #openttd 08:21:25 <Eddi|zuHause> did you try changing the road layout in the advanced settings? 08:21:54 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 08:22:21 <AshKyd> Not really. I think itâs on âbetter roadsâ but itâs built dour bridges right next to each other. Iâll see what the wiki says. 08:48:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:58:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:59:18 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 09:14:35 *** Hexan [~Hexan@0x5da04c4a.arcnqu2.static.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [] 09:24:57 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 09:36:23 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:38:39 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 09:54:15 *** De_ghosty [~s@69-196-169-121.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:26 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-160.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 09:56:01 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-160.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 10:07:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B800C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 10:07:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B800C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:07:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:13:17 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23:56 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:28:18 *** smeding [~smeding@5354BE76.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:37:10 <Mark_> goodmorning 10:37:32 <Mark_> any chance of getting oneway signs for trams? 10:50:23 <el_en> "no" is a safe guess. 10:51:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55:10 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-160.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 10:55:47 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@216-165-16-160.DYNAPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #openttd 11:14:38 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:31 *** tfarago [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:35 <tfarago> ah 11:24:41 <tfarago> grrr 11:25:00 <Alberth> not happy to be here? 11:25:42 *** Darkvater is now known as Guest1044 11:25:42 *** tfarago is now known as Darkvater 11:25:45 <Darkvater> there 11:26:11 <Alberth> welcome again 11:26:55 <Darkvater> hmm what was the channel rejoin command 11:27:15 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:27:16 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:27:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 11:27:19 <Darkvater> :) 11:27:22 <Darkvater> /cycle 11:28:03 <Darkvater> brb 11:28:05 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [] 11:28:11 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has joined #openttd 11:28:23 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@ppp118-208-66-110.lns1.bne4.internode.on.net] has left #openttd [] 11:28:37 *** tfarago [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:39 *** tfarago is now known as Darkvater 11:28:50 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:28:50 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 11:31:01 <Darkvater> hmm 11:32:14 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [] 11:32:15 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:32:40 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:32:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 11:32:50 <Darkvater> (sorry guys, setting up new linux box) 11:52:14 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:56:00 *** lolman__ [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:13 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 12:04:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:28 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:23:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdcea.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:32:01 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:11 *** Guest1053 [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:39:44 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.23.83.14] has joined #openttd 13:00:16 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:01:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:03:23 <dihedral> oO 13:03:31 <dihedral> 2 Swallows 13:04:50 <MrFrans> multiplying 13:08:43 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:51 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 13:13:45 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 13:25:00 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has joined #openttd 13:27:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:28:39 *** Foto2 [~Foto2@cpe.atm2-0-12958.abnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:29:09 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:29:29 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:30:52 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-254-121.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:30:57 <Foto2> I have downloaded OpenTTD 0.6.3 but i need the "Transport Tycoon Delux Location" 13:31:10 <Foto2> I have downloaded OpenTTD 0.6.3 but i need the "Transport Tycoon Delux Location" Where can i download thats ? 13:31:24 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:31:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:31:31 <Foto2> I have downloaded OpenTTD 0.6.3 but i need the "Transport Tycoon Delux Location" Where can i download thats ? 13:32:00 <Foto2> I have downloaded OpenTTD 0.6.3 but i need the "Transport Tycoon Delux Location" Where can i download thats ? 13:32:00 <glx> google knows 13:32:07 <|Japa|> yup, it does 13:32:08 <Foto2> no they dont know :P 13:32:29 <glx> you won't get a download location here 13:33:03 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:33:14 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 13:34:15 <Foto2> Why 13:40:14 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:40:35 *** Foto2 [~Foto2@cpe.atm2-0-12958.abnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 13:41:22 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:03 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:50:38 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:55:35 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has joined #openttd 13:56:37 <|Japa|> http://www.citiesxl.com/index.php?/content/view/62/24/lang,en/ 13:57:44 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:18 <Forked> what is it? 14:12:20 <Alberth> Forked: "CITIES XL⢠is the next-generation in city-building games..." 14:12:33 <Forked> oh ok 14:13:53 <Alberth> completely buzzword compliant within the application domain :) 14:14:08 <Forked> I somehow read "citisex" first =p 14:20:17 <Alberth> oops, floating point exception. My code is not yet optimal 14:20:49 <MrFrans> "# On going content production allowing player to regularly upgrade their game. 14:20:49 <MrFrans> # GEMs (Gameplay Extension Modules) allow players to switch their mayor position for CEO seats, from car dealerships to ski resorts, " 14:21:16 <MrFrans> want to do everything in one game. *rollseyes* 14:21:55 <|Japa|> as long as I can be a transport tycoon :P 14:23:15 <Alberth> MrFrans: you missed the last part, about making persistent interconnected world with blogs and avatars 14:23:31 <Alberth> s/world/worlds/ 14:24:01 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:24:09 <Alberth> no way 'hundreds of buildings' is going to be enough 14:28:05 <MrFrans> been in development since 2007, that makes it all a bit more believeable. Still makes me wonder about possible depth that the GEMs will have. 14:32:43 <Swallow> If some advanced settings don't exist in an (old) savegame, does the game then use the default values, the _settings_newgame values, or something else? 14:34:39 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng14-0-0-cust620.winn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:38:57 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet542.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 14:39:38 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. 14:48:56 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@f054125161.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:48:59 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:16 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:51:51 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has joined #openttd 14:54:35 *** Guest1053 is now known as Mortomes 14:55:28 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm28.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:05:54 <|Japa|> hmm... 15:06:23 <|Japa|> playing a flat, 64x64 map, with a single city in the middle, and no industries, is fun 15:06:44 <|Japa|> it's a challenge to get al the passengers transported withing the city 15:09:10 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:10:29 *** einKarl [~einKarl@91-66-180-201-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:57 <Alberth> yet there are users complaining that not enough people live in a city 15:16:34 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:17:12 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 15:19:54 <frosch123> why is there a water supply right next to my desert town, so I cannot fund a water tower... 15:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> make it close ;) 15:26:41 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 15:29:55 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:18 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:34:34 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has joined #openttd 15:34:54 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has quit [] 15:35:45 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has joined #openttd 15:35:51 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has quit [] 15:36:42 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has joined #openttd 15:38:27 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 15:38:30 <MrFrans> "The gameplay associated with Transport GEMs should mainly be directed towards the usual transport tycoons produced so far with some new features that should bring more fun. 15:38:30 <MrFrans> But thatâs not all, if you use a Transport GEM in the context of the planet offer, you should get some more fun with other Transport GEM owners but I canât say much about this for nowâŠ" 15:38:39 <MrFrans> http://www.citiesxl.com/index.php?/content/view/52/68/lang,en/ 15:42:29 *** mackensen [~cfulton@75-48-124-237.lightspeed.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:41 *** Mortal is now known as Guest1070 15:42:49 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:43:12 <mackensen> hello 15:43:47 <mackensen> has anyone else had trouble/tried compiling r15591? 15:44:57 <Swallow> OS? Compiler? 15:45:33 <mackensen> Linux, g++ 4.2.4 15:45:41 <mackensen> never had a problem before the latest nightly 15:46:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and we need to summon our telepathic powers to find out your error message? 15:46:28 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 15:46:39 <mackensen> Eddi|zuHause: getting there ;) 15:47:03 <mackensen> "/home/cfulton/openttd/trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp:252: error: â_switch_modeâ was not declared in this scope" 15:47:09 <mackensen> errors start there 15:48:24 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, there was someone messing around with variables.h recently 15:48:39 <SmatZ> mackensen: what configure parameters do you use? 15:48:49 <mackensen> this may be unrelated, but svn throws an error message during update: svn: Failed to add directory 'src/3rdparty/squirrel': object of the same name already exists 15:48:58 *** Guest1070 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:59 <mackensen> SmatZ: defaults only 15:49:02 <SmatZ> mackensen: no, it's not unrelated 15:49:12 <SmatZ> remove that directory, then svn up again 15:49:46 <SmatZ> (it can be unrealated, but probably isn't) 15:50:35 <mackensen> SmatZ: looks like that was preventing a full update 15:50:46 <mackensen> gah, now svn's grumbling about a lock 15:51:02 <Eddi|zuHause> svn cleanup 15:51:40 <mackensen> Eddi|zuHause: I know, but it's not working 15:52:31 <mackensen> okay, svn updated 15:52:40 <mackensen> recompiling 15:57:33 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:57:57 <mackensen> that worked--odd that it had a problem with the squirrel directory 15:58:58 <mackensen> thanks all 16:00:51 <Sacro> `SpComb logs seem to be dropping things :( 16:00:59 <SpComb> such as? 16:01:07 <Sacro> zodttd was in this morning, i went to bed 16:01:12 <Sacro> i see no mention of him being here in the lgos 16:01:40 <Sacro> well, in last1000 16:01:46 <Sacro> hmm, when I search I can find him 16:01:54 <Sacro> but I can't go to the line in the logs any more 16:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> mackensen: the problem with the squirrel directory is that it was changed from an external to a regular directory 16:02:23 <SpComb> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1235795810#1235795810 16:02:45 <Sacro> hmm, strange 16:02:45 <mackensen> Eddi|zuHause: okay, yeah, I saw something about that in the changelog 16:02:51 <SpComb> Sacro: is it the timestamps? 16:02:59 <zodttd> back 16:03:22 <Sacro> zodttd: so i see 16:03:40 <zodttd> Heh saw my highlight, and popped in 16:11:46 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-145-222.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:17:41 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-254-121.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:17:42 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 16:19:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:23:37 <zodttd> I was trying to get back in contact with Darkvater last night but we're on opposite timezones...I have OpenTTD up and running on the iPhone for "jailbroken" devices. Though I'm working on the same deal with another transport tycoon project, I was wondering if with the usage of OpenGFX I could bring OpenTTD to the AppStore as a free release? Assuming I provide complete sources and stay within the licensing agreement. Hence why I would like per 16:29:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a nice idea, but opengfx is not fully finished yet, you'd get a horrible amount of reports for having black boxes move through the screen 16:29:43 <zodttd> Thats what I was afraid of :( 16:31:00 <zodttd> I hadnt heard about it for a bit, and went to the wiki and saw the 89% figure, and wasn't sure how much the other 11% was needed. 16:31:10 <Aali> and even when that is finished, perhaps you should wait for the 0.7 release? 16:31:38 <glx> and there is still no replacement for sounds 16:32:23 <Aali> AFAIK the missing graphics include all monorail/maglev vehicles and some town buildings 16:32:25 <zodttd> True. And true. Well that squashes that. 16:32:26 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it would be trivial to add an empty sample.cat ;) 16:32:40 <Eddi|zuHause> you'd just have no sound 16:32:49 <zodttd> Yeah I could release without sound, but not sure if thats the image to portray 16:33:18 <Eddi|zuHause> well, sound is less essential than houses and trains ;) 16:33:23 <zodttd> True! LOL :) 16:33:49 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and toyland is completely missing, i believe 16:34:11 <zodttd> Yeah all I heard was toyland was missing. I didn't know about the others. 16:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i have never used OpenGFX, just seen a few screenshots, and there i didn't like it 16:35:33 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:35:35 <|Japa|> no, there are some opengfx sprites for toyland 16:35:59 <Eddi|zuHause> |Japa|: yes. but they are not included in the pack 16:36:09 <|Japa|> k 16:36:22 <|Japa|> man I wish I could code 16:36:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't need to code anything for opengfx 16:36:39 <|Japa|> I also wish I could manage to DL the ottd source 16:36:50 <|Japa|> nah, not opengfx 16:37:08 <Eddi|zuHause> that's easy, just "svn co <URL>" 16:37:11 <|Japa|> I want to know how to code so I can make two tracks per tile 16:37:26 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, please do that ;) 16:37:27 <|Japa|> and I don't have a cool OS 16:37:39 <Sacro> you can with || and = 16:37:45 <Eddi|zuHause> you can do "svn co" even in uncool OSes 16:37:45 <Sacro> just not with / and ` 16:37:48 <Sacro> \ 16:37:53 <|Japa|> yeah, but // and \ would be sweet 16:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> that is a nice intention, but how do you intend to make switches? 16:38:45 <zodttd> Design trumps coding in this case huh :) 16:39:06 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause trumps everything (loudly) 16:39:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that's what i wanted to say, but i couldn't express it ;) 16:39:33 <Eddi|zuHause> not trumpet, tuba 16:39:42 *** worldemar [~world@213.178.47.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:06 <|Japa|> well, at first, I was thinking just tio have it working on straights, with nothing extra 16:40:26 <Eddi|zuHause> you don't get far with only straights 16:40:56 <|Japa|> well, something like this: ---<===>--- is fine for trains to pass each other 16:41:03 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:07 <|Japa|> and for sexy stations 16:41:14 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 16:41:20 <|Japa|> but I'm getting ahead of myself anyway 16:43:21 <|Japa|> nooooo..... the Tortoise SVN that I have downloaded is the x64 one 16:43:48 <Eddi|zuHause> bad idea ;) 16:43:57 <|Japa|> damn my windows re-install 16:47:22 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:47 *** wollollo [~martin@dyn1076-184.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:52:50 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:53:11 *** Mortal is now known as Guest1076 16:53:13 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:54:53 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.185.98] has joined #openttd 16:58:55 *** Guest1076 [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:59:53 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:49 *** Tim [~Administr@p5B37EED6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:08 *** neli [micha@88.159.210.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:21:47 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-183-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 17:26:17 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has joined #openttd 17:34:01 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:15 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:37:58 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:35 *** xahodo [~xahodo@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:10 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:54:35 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.71.160] has joined #openttd 18:00:19 <batti5> I have a little suggestion, thare is a suggestion at ttd forum that sais in the ottd 0.7 final it should be a new title screen, i think thare should be a poll or something, whare people can thair own created title screen, and others vote, the title screen with the most votes can get in trunk, and the devs can judge it, what do you all think? 18:01:54 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:05:21 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 18:05:52 <Sacro> batti5: i think you get the award for most mistakes in a sentence. 18:05:57 <Sacro> ;) 18:09:16 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.185.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:21 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 18:11:00 *** worldemar [~world@85.114.185.98] has joined #openttd 18:19:01 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:20:41 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:52 <SmatZ> batti5: OTTD doesn't allow the title screen to use any newgrf 18:22:16 <SmatZ> and I like the current title screen :) 18:22:26 <Tim> I don't ;-) 18:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i wish i could turn off sound in the title screen ;) 18:23:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:24:00 <glx> SmatZ: static grfs are allowed 18:24:47 <Eddi|zuHause> the only problem i have with the current title screen is that it gets rather dull when resolutions get higher 18:26:41 <el_en> Are there any theories that can be taken seriously about a Nazi base on Antarctica? 18:27:00 <Tim> Oo 18:28:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i did never hear any 18:29:20 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm28.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:35:24 <Brokkoli> el_en: no 18:35:37 <el_en> Ok. 18:36:50 <SmatZ> glx: those don't depend on the savegame though :) 18:37:04 *** Tim [~Administr@p5B37EED6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:37:10 <glx> true 18:41:22 *** |Japa| [~Japa@117.201.99.129] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 18:42:04 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has left #openttd [] 18:43:31 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:05 *** neli [micha@88.159.210.43] has joined #openttd 18:44:39 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 18:48:20 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:50:53 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 18:51:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15594 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:51:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-02-28 18:51:15 18:51:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 7 fixed by khaloofah (7) 18:51:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 1 fixed by glx (1) 18:51:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frisian - 51 fixed by luc (51) 18:51:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 25 changed by planetmaker (25) 18:51:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 2 changed by lorenzodv (2) 18:52:28 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B800C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:55:41 <batti5> <SmatZ> You don`t understand, please view here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=42044 18:56:32 <el_en> batti5: the correct apostrophe character is ', not `. 18:57:44 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:58:20 <petern> well no, ` is not an apostrophe... 18:59:18 <el_en> indeed not. 18:59:21 <Brokkoli> it's "something strange" 18:59:39 <batti5> el_en sorry 18:59:39 <petern> i must admit i never found a use for the ¬ key either 18:59:54 <Brokkoli> wheres that? 18:59:54 <el_en> it is U+0600 grave accent 19:00:12 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:20 <Eddi|zuHause> AltGr+^ 19:00:34 <Brokkoli> no key for that here 19:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> interestingly, it's also on AltGr+6 19:01:46 <el_en> lies, AltGr+6 is Â¥. 19:02:29 <worldemar> different keyboards? 19:02:40 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:03:03 <worldemar> i have italian keyboard at work and it differs from russian even in \ | ` ~ characters and etc 19:03:16 <glx> | <-- that's AltGr+6 19:03:48 <thingwath> ¬ is for negation? 19:04:19 <petern> ¬ is shift+` 19:04:20 <el_en> italian and russian, what a strange combination. 19:04:25 <thingwath> AltGr+6 switches irssi to window six :o) 19:04:42 <Eddi|zuHause> no, | is AltGr+< 19:05:03 <petern> | is shift+\ 19:05:03 <el_en> Eddi|zuHause is correct there. 19:05:07 <glx> well < is left to W 19:05:19 <Brokkoli> left to X 19:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause> no, Q is left to W ;) 19:05:30 <petern> left to? 19:05:38 <petern> left to my own devices, i probably would 19:05:39 <Eddi|zuHause> < is left to Y, where it belongs 19:05:48 <Eddi|zuHause> left of? 19:05:48 <thingwath> pf, evil qwertz 19:05:53 <petern> < is left of > 19:05:57 <Sacro> hmm 19:06:02 <Sacro> qwertÞ 19:06:04 <Brokkoli> < is below > 19:06:07 <Eddi|zuHause> no, > is Shift+< 19:06:10 <thingwath> qwertÅ¡! 19:06:14 <petern> > is shift+. 19:06:17 <petern> < is shift+, 19:06:19 <glx> azerty here 19:06:22 <petern> you silly people with your silly keyboards 19:06:25 <Sacro> zwerty 19:06:25 <Brokkoli> qwertz 19:06:26 <el_en> I would hate to have a QWER<Y keyboard like Eddi does 19:06:51 <SmatZ> hehe 19:10:35 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 19:11:30 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet542.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13:48 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:14:39 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:15:55 *** goodger_ is now known as goodger 19:16:12 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:16:17 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@BAEbdcc.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 19:20:06 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913]] 19:21:10 <batti5> can somebody help me with this http://paste.openttd.org/179965 please 19:22:44 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:26:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.213.3] has joined #openttd 19:26:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.172.252] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:38 <Eddi|zuHause> el_en: if you grew up with it, you get so used to it that you can't handle different layouts 19:36:02 <petern> (1962-1920)*365.25 19:37:57 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:38:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 19:39:07 <frosch123> 15340.5 19:39:08 <frosch123> boring 19:48:33 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejl11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:51:47 *** sawtooth [~Anthony@74-46-200-179.dr01.wyng.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #openttd 19:52:52 <el_en> Eddi|zuHause: de layout is actually quite nice when fin/swe is not easily available, because despite Y/Z prank, most shift+number combinations are the same. 19:53:38 <frosch123> shift+number, reminds me of czech keyboard :) 19:53:58 <SmatZ> frosch123: you have used it? 19:54:30 <frosch123> several times, but if it took longer I search for xmodmap :) 19:55:07 <SmatZ> ah, you need it to write "correspondence" with your czech partners, right? 19:56:21 <frosch123> well, not me. but sometimes I have to show them stuff on their computer 19:56:31 <SmatZ> :-p 19:56:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:00:43 <frosch123> in fact it is a combined english/czech keyboard with both layouts printed on the keys. so it is even harder, as you can usally find the same symbol twice on the keyboard.. 20:00:44 <thingwath> most czech layouts sucks so bad, and people still use it... :) 20:01:10 <SmatZ> :o) 20:01:22 <frosch123> most? how man are there? 20:01:27 <frosch123> +y 20:01:35 <thingwath> at least qwertz/qwerty versions 20:01:47 <thingwath> and some modified "programming" layouts 20:01:54 <SmatZ> and the one which has numbers instead of characters with accents 20:02:11 <SmatZ> "czech amateur layout" or so... 20:02:58 <thingwath> still, there is no common czech layout with correct czech âquotesâ, for example 20:03:58 <SmatZ> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdcz.htm http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdcz1.htm http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdcz2.htm known by MS :) 20:04:19 <Eddi|zuHause> âquotesâ <- those are not on the german layout either 20:04:23 <Eddi|zuHause> sadly 20:04:32 <thingwath> of course 20:05:08 <thingwath> you simply have to make your own layout 20:05:50 <SmatZ> (for some reason, the links I posted don't work in FF nor Konqueror... maybe they work only in IE, but I can't test it) 20:05:50 <thingwath> SmatZ: should I see someting on that pages? :) 20:05:59 <thingwath> ah :) 20:06:07 *** Chommik [rafal@xdsl-14188.lubin.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 20:06:08 <SmatZ> thingwath: I have no clue :) but I suppose so :) 20:06:11 <Chommik> helo 20:06:21 <thingwath> I only have Konqueror and Gecko :) 20:06:43 <frosch123> â â â â <- if I only knew, which is the correct german one... 20:07:07 <Chommik> i've a problem with unicode fonts. how do I change it in openttd.cfg? 20:08:22 <frosch123> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Unicode 20:09:08 <Chommik> i'm doing is is written in it, but I get an error when I'm starting openTTD 20:09:24 <thingwath> well, I could also use «french quotes», for example, even in czech, they are little strange, but also correct 20:09:32 <Chommik> "nable to use '5x7.pcf.gz' for small font, FreeType reported error 0x1, using sprite font instead" 20:09:50 <thingwath> (but of course, you won't find them on your keyboard) 20:09:57 <Chommik> do I need to enter absolute path or what? 20:10:07 <frosch123> arn't they like »this« ... 20:11:10 <thingwath> those are called russian :) 20:11:28 <thingwath> (at least in czech typography) 20:12:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 20:13:22 <Chommik> so, maybe it's something wrong with my X.org? 20:16:18 <thingwath> shouldn't there be a fontconfig name for the font? 20:16:30 <frosch123> small_font = /usr/share/fonts/misc/5x7.pcf.gz <- works for me 20:18:24 <Chommik> ok, works :) 20:18:41 <Chommik> and Unicode works too 20:18:52 <Chommik> thanks so much, bye 20:19:02 *** Chommik [rafal@xdsl-14188.lubin.dialog.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 20:29:14 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@BAEbdcc.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:42 <batti5> <petern> (1962-1920)*365.25: 15340? 20:36:18 *** nofor [~nofor@193.43.249.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:40 <batti5> need help, i created a grf, but it aint visible from newgrf add window, http://paste.openttd.org/179968 what is wrong? renum & grfcodec sais all ok. 20:47:57 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, i just lost my 'A' key... 20:49:23 <batti5> i need to go soon. 20:49:36 <glx> doesn't your action 8 miss a 00 ? 20:49:49 <batti5> whare? 20:51:13 <glx> <sprite-number> * <length> 08 <version> <grf-id> <name> <description> 20:51:19 <glx> you miss description 20:51:33 <glx> anyway your real sprites are not at the right place 20:52:24 <glx> I wonder how renum and grfcodec can say it's ok :) 20:52:35 <frosch123> it is ok for grfcodec :) 20:52:49 <glx> yes it did a real grf 20:53:01 <frosch123> and I guess nforenum thought it is no newgrf, so did not bother 20:53:09 <batti5> wine renum.exe le5100.nfo 20:53:10 <batti5> NFORenum v3.4.6 - Copyright 2004-2007 Dale McCoy. 20:53:12 <batti5> Processing file "le5100.nfo". 20:53:13 <batti5> Processing complete. 20:53:38 <glx> your sprite 5 should be sprite 0 20:54:03 *** pound_fool [~pound_foo@static-66-16-55-157.dsl.cavtel.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:04 <glx> hmm no you completely forgot the sprite 0 indeed 20:54:20 <glx> the one telling how many sprites are defined 20:54:57 <glx> you should read and understand the docs first :) 20:55:22 <pound_fool> reading is easy. understanding... 20:56:25 <glx> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=TheFirstVehicle <-- this is what you need to understand batti5 20:58:39 <batti5> i dont understand it 21:00:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83DBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:14 <Brokkoli> you should read the texts 21:02:10 <batti5> still dont get it 21:02:35 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B837A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:02:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:04:06 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejl11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 21:04:07 <glx> at least compare your nfo and the example, you will easily spot the differences 21:04:22 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:34 <maristo> hi 21:05:35 <maristo> Äu iu parolas esperanton? 21:05:54 <glx> english only please 21:06:14 <maristo> i just asked about esperanto speakers 21:06:34 <maristo> is here somebody of translation team 21:07:22 <maristo> probably no 21:08:43 <frosch123> 2008-12-18 was the last esperanto translator active 21:08:58 <frosch123> so if you want, you can be "the team" 21:09:24 <maristo> good, i suppose esperanto.txt needs some corrections 21:11:25 <frosch123> http://www.openttd.org/en/ <- see third post how to become a translator 21:12:16 <maristo> i'm registered now 21:22:33 <batti5> need help, http://paste.openttd.org/179969 on i loadit & apply it turns green, but it would not appare inplace off SH 40 electric 21:22:41 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.82.71.160] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:08 <glx> do you add it in running game or in intro menu ? 21:25:00 <glx> you have 2 action 8 21:25:26 <glx> and 2 action 1 21:26:30 <glx> same for action 2 and 3 21:26:43 <glx> indeed you redefined engine 0 twice 21:28:32 <glx> you really should try to understand what you are doing 21:29:40 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-211-146-65.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:56 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:30:41 <SmatZ> hello Nite_Owl 21:31:36 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 21:33:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B837A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:35:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B837D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:35:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:44:29 *** Turnskin [~x@201.0.125.92.dul.tomsknet.ru] has joined #openttd 21:45:04 <Turnskin> Hi all 21:45:19 <Turnskin> Mozno po-russki pisat'? 21:45:37 <SmatZ> hello Turnskin, as the topic says, only English is allowed :) 21:45:56 <SmatZ> hmm no, topic doesn't mention that rule anymore... 21:45:57 <Turnskin> Well, i have a question anyway 21:46:20 <Turnskin> ECS 21:46:58 <SmatZ> Turnskin: if nobody here helps you, try asking here http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=34758 21:47:37 <Brokkoli> whats your question? 21:48:05 <Turnskin> OTTD 0.6.3 ECS latest (4b?). Self-made scenario with every kind of an industry 21:48:10 *** SmatZ changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.6.3, 0.7.0-beta1 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for FS + SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only | Discussion of realism is now a quietable offence 21:48:57 <Turnskin> The problem is that most of farms begin to close like "This farm is inside the city border and is being closed" (translation) 21:49:27 <glx> don't let towns grow :) 21:49:28 <Brokkoli> maybe less cities 21:49:28 <Turnskin> But the distance between any city and this farm is more than 50 cells 21:50:01 <Turnskin> E.g. map is 512*512 with 10 or so cities of 5k pop. max. 21:50:08 <Brokkoli> ok.. 21:50:26 <Brokkoli> there could be a bug in 0.6.3? 21:50:50 <SmatZ> or in ECS ;) or intended behaviour... 21:50:56 <Brokkoli> yes 21:51:02 <glx> ECS decides that by itself 21:51:07 <Brokkoli> yes 21:51:08 <Turnskin> Temperate, all ECS vectors included. 21:51:10 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F7D1.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:51:28 <Brokkoli> but is the distance calulation correct? 21:51:39 <Turnskin> Did anybody meet this situation? 21:51:56 <Turnskin> Fruit farms and forests are being closed. 21:52:34 <Brokkoli> using 0.7 beta i didn't have that problem 21:52:35 <Turnskin> Brokkoli Well, it's much more 2 screens (of normal view of main window). 21:52:44 <Brokkoli> haven't tried 0.6.3 21:52:56 <Turnskin> I never met this later too. 21:54:16 <Turnskin> Brokkoli What is 0.7? Where can i read it's features? 21:54:24 <Brokkoli> openttd 0.7 21:54:36 <Brokkoli> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-testing 21:54:55 <Turnskin> Brokkoli OK, thanx 21:56:35 <Turnskin> Brokkoli So, no passenger dests still in 0.7? :( 21:57:47 <Brokkoli> no.. 21:58:21 <Turnskin> Brokkoli Does it 1) Support 0.6.3 (older?) scenarios 2) Building diagonal railways by dragging ? 21:59:08 <Brokkoli> yes it does 21:59:25 <Brokkoli> but i don't know if 0.7 final versions will support 0.7 beta savegames 21:59:37 <Turnskin> I made nice ECS scenarios for TTDP and OTTD r120... and 0.6.3 but every time i was to do it from begining due to incompatibility. 22:00:26 <frosch123> official versions are upwards compatible 22:00:37 <frosch123> or downwards... never get that 22:00:37 <Brokkoli> is the beta official? 22:00:41 <Turnskin> Sounds good 22:00:44 <Brokkoli> ok 22:00:49 <frosch123> beta is official 22:00:51 <Brokkoli> ok 22:01:51 <Turnskin> Is George being here is That Great George, Famous GRFmaker? ;) 22:01:58 <frosch123> however you can drag horizontal/vertical track only with autorail 22:02:04 <frosch123> not with the oldschool-tools 22:02:26 <frosch123> Turnskin: yes he is, but likely sleeping 22:03:03 <Turnskin> Nice to meet him at least in userlist ;) 22:04:14 <frosch123> otoh IIRC it is about midnight for him ... 22:04:23 <Turnskin> OK, i'll download 0.7 and try. 22:04:35 <frosch123> also update ECS vectors in that case 22:04:45 <Turnskin> Yep, for me too - it's 4.05 in Siberia. 22:05:17 <Turnskin> frosch123 From George's site? 22:05:33 <frosch123> don't overwrite you old ECS vectors, if you want to continue playing with 0.6.3 22:05:37 <glx> from openttd content download :) 22:05:46 <frosch123> Turnskin: you can also get them though the ingame content download 22:05:58 <glx> 0.7.0 feature 22:06:17 <Turnskin> O, cool 22:06:40 <Turnskin> But i prefer do it manually... From which URL? 22:07:06 <frosch123> take a look at grfcrawler.tt-forums.net 22:07:45 <Turnskin> OK, i'll take a look... 22:08:35 <Turnskin> Thanx to all. 22:08:40 <Turnskin> Good luck! 22:08:45 *** Turnskin [~x@201.0.125.92.dul.tomsknet.ru] has left #openttd [] 22:15:28 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 22:43:56 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 22:45:06 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:42 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:05 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:48:50 *** amixppc [~Michal@062016234094.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 22:49:04 <amixppc> hi 22:49:09 <amixppc> trying out the new beta 22:49:13 <SmatZ> hello 22:49:37 <amixppc> i try to find missing content online etc 22:49:56 <amixppc> click on it and i get a list with red dots missing 22:50:11 <amixppc> but i cant download them 22:50:39 <SmatZ> only some grfs are available online 22:50:53 <amixppc> ohh 22:51:11 <SmatZ> *via the "download content" OTTD feature 22:51:33 <SmatZ> you can try http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/ or simply google for grf's name :) 22:51:59 <amixppc> is it possible to choose more than one grf file at time? 22:52:14 <SmatZ> for download? yes 22:52:25 <SmatZ> just check the checkbox :) 22:52:29 <amixppc> for adding available newgrf 22:52:50 <SmatZ> ah... if you mean the "Add NewGRF" window, then the answer is "no" 22:54:39 <frosch123> 118 is a nice number 22:54:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdcea.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:41 <SmatZ> I wouldn't say so... 22:55:45 <SmatZ> @base 10 2 118 22:55:45 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 1110110 22:55:49 <SmatZ> not very nice 22:56:03 <SmatZ> @base 10 16 118 22:56:03 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 76 22:57:45 <Wolf01> 'night 22:57:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:58:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 22:58:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v Rubidium] by ChanServ 22:58:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v petern] by ChanServ 23:07:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F32C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:56 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.202.215] has joined #openttd 23:23:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.213.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:50 *** gregor__ [~gregor@xdsl-87-78-35-230.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 23:32:52 <gregor__> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page <-- What about cutting this adress? Who needs /wiki/index.php in it? 23:35:33 <SmatZ> is that possible? 23:36:03 <SmatZ> even http://wikipedia.org/OpenTTD redirects to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD 23:36:23 <SmatZ> with one 404 ... 23:38:53 <gregor__> SmatZ, that is client-side <meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="5; URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD">, it would be possible server-side through mod_rewrite/.htacces ;) 23:39:23 <SmatZ> gregor__: wouldn't it cause doubling of number of HTTP requests? 23:39:45 <SmatZ> I have no clue about that :) 23:39:58 <SmatZ> but why do you mind the longer address? 23:40:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B837D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:56 <gregor__> SmatZ, not notable, looks dirty 23:42:33 <thingwath> / on wiki.openttd.org has 301 redirect to /wiki/index.php/Main_Page, so where is the problem? :) 23:42:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:42:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:42:48 <Belugas> no problem in my mind 23:47:13 <gregor__> thingwath, http://wiki.openttd.org/Oil_Refinery is shorter and better to read than http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/index.php/Oil_Refinery and the first one is not a redirect to the second. 23:48:03 <thingwath> why would anyone read such URL? :) 23:49:05 <Brokkoli> /wiki/ should not be removed 23:49:14 <Brokkoli> but index.php can 23:49:28 <Brokkoli> look here 23:49:29 <Brokkoli> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL 23:49:56 <DaleStan> Brokkoli: wiki's already in the url. *wiki*.openttd.org. Why have it twice? 23:50:05 <Brokkoli> look here 23:50:06 <Brokkoli> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory 23:51:03 <Brokkoli> it's possible but not good 23:51:30 <DaleStan> That said, thingwath's right. Joe Random doesn't read URLs. Click links and (if you're lucky) search, but read? 23:52:42 <Brokkoli> i would prefer to remove the "index.php" that's easy and unproblematic 23:53:01 <thingwath> Joe Random. I don't. :) In fact, I don't even write them, if I wanted to get to the Oil_Refinery page now, I would go to www.openttd.org, click on Manual link and type "Oil refinery" in the search box :) 23:53:46 <Brokkoli> me too 23:53:55 <Brokkoli> but it looks better ;) 23:55:44 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:58:51 <Brokkoli> and google likes it more 23:59:20 <Brokkoli> pages without a query string get a higher ranking