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00:06:28 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:06:29 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 00:13:55 *** davis` [~iloveme@p5B28DB87.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 00:21:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-226-0.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15706 /trunk/src/ (fios.cpp stdafx.h): -Fix: Make sure the filename passed to unlink() is always in file system encoding. 00:26:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r15707 /trunk/src/ini.cpp: -Fix (r15686): The config file was not updated on Windows because rename() can't replace existing files. 00:41:16 *** [s] [~Ugnis@78.59.148.33] has joined #openttd 00:41:20 <[s]> hello :) 00:42:44 *** [s] [~Ugnis@78.59.148.33] has quit [] 00:44:00 <MrFrans> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42348&start=0 00:48:08 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 00:48:38 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 00:54:32 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:56:39 *** Yeggzzz [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B5E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 01:27:34 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:30:57 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 01:32:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15708 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Feature [FS#2728]: Pop up the AI Debug Window if one of the AIs crashed and show a message that the user should report the crash. 01:41:19 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [] 01:41:27 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:35 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 01:43:20 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:48:15 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:51:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@94.142.244.25] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 01:58:42 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:00:25 <Yexo> Some screenshots from a new (scripted) map generator: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/mapgen/ 02:01:04 <FauxFaux> screenshot_1 is your girlfriend? 02:04:59 <Yexo> .... 02:05:29 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 02:06:42 <energetic> nice 02:06:57 <energetic> we want harder maps 02:08:00 <Yexo> like 7? 02:09:05 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 02:09:20 <energetic> 7 is a good start ;) 02:11:26 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-143.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? 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(Thomas Jefferson)] 04:26:32 *** michi_cc [5eac770b43@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:54:00 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:54:31 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 04:59:17 *** hackalittlebit [~hackalitt@195-23-22-181.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 05:01:00 <hackalittlebit> having problems compiling new nightly 05:06:14 *** hackalittlebit [~hackalitt@195-23-22-181.net.novis.pt] has left #openttd [] 05:49:04 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 05:49:48 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 05:58:25 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 06:07:04 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12] 06:21:03 *** michi_cc [c549059256@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 06:21:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 06:27:10 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:33:50 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:42:03 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:43:18 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:45:11 *** goodger [~ben@host86-148-8-231.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:13 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.9] has joined #openttd 06:50:21 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:52:29 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:17 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 07:28:21 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E428.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:45 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:42:00 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 07:43:55 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 07:50:04 <OsteHovel^EEE> Rubidium: im here 07:54:18 <OsteHovel^EEE> it takes about 14 minuts to download 500 mb :P its so LONG.... 07:54:22 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:11 <OsteHovel^EEE> (Me is currently downloading Vmware Workstation from Vmware to test out some functions in windows95 that can be used in openttd) 07:56:26 <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: you are lucky, something that big takes me 3 hours or so 07:56:50 <OsteHovel^EEE> I peak at 610 kb/s 07:57:17 <OsteHovel^EEE> At school i peak at 11000 kb/s 07:57:20 <Alberth> but they never last long enough :) 07:58:06 <OsteHovel^EEE> True 07:59:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-71fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:59:51 <OsteHovel^EEE> Hi Zuu :D 08:00:07 <Zuu> Hi OsteHovel^EEE :) 08:00:48 <Zuu> Got to work on my assignment for monday, but though I could keep an eye on your work :D 08:06:07 <OsteHovel^EEE> the download is now sooon finished just 50 secounds... 08:06:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> I think i will use more time installing Vmware workstation than it takes to install windows 95 inside vmware :P 08:06:59 <OsteHovel^EEE> Do windows 95 take any use of 2 CPU's? 08:08:47 <Zuu> No idea 08:08:57 <Zuu> I don't even have dual core these days. 08:12:35 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 08:12:44 <OsteHovel^EEE> Hi welshdragon! 08:12:55 <welshdragon> good morning! 08:15:30 <OsteHovel^EEE> LOOOL 08:15:40 <OsteHovel^EEE> My pc just freezed... 08:15:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> when i logged on to windows 08:16:21 <welshdragon> hee 08:16:21 <welshdragon> he 08:16:34 <petern> froze 08:16:49 <OsteHovel^EEE> Im so happy i use Linux on all the other pc's becouse thats what i hate about windows... 08:16:49 * welshdragon looks at the very bottom of the homepage of tt-forums.net 08:17:15 <OsteHovel^EEE> Happy Birthday welshdragon 08:17:27 <welshdragon> :D 08:17:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> You are 22? 08:18:06 <welshdragon> indeed 08:22:55 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22:56 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 08:23:26 <OsteHovel^EEE> PXE / Network Boot is genius :P 08:27:31 <OsteHovel^EEE> "The installation of Windows 95 will take from 30 minutes to 1 hour" 08:27:32 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 08:28:32 <Zuu> Now let see how much vmware fools the installer :) 08:30:51 <OsteHovel^EEE> It finished in 3 minutes and 30 scounds 08:32:28 <Zuu> Nice, then it was far quicker than installing WinXP on vmware for me. But then Win95 is probably much smaller installation too. 08:32:54 <OsteHovel^EEE> Windows 95 uses 95 mb when its installed 08:35:32 <OsteHovel^EEE> Now im installing Windows 98 08:38:22 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 08:38:42 <OsteHovel^EEE> Good morning pavel1269 08:38:43 <pavel1269> hi 08:38:51 <pavel1269> hello OsteHovel^EEE :-) 08:41:48 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: any progress on that win bug? 08:43:12 <OsteHovel^EEE> pavel1269: Rubidium fixed it 08:43:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 08:43:33 <Rubidium> huh? 08:43:38 <pavel1269> nice .... he was just shitting about win and .... ola :-) 08:43:56 <pavel1269> not that he was lieing, but still, everyone know that :D 08:44:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> i think i read that in the SVN log... 08:44:28 <OsteHovel^EEE> r15707 | michi_cc | 2009-03-14 01:26:03 +0100 (Sat, 14 Mar 2009) | 1 line 08:44:28 <OsteHovel^EEE> Changed paths: 08:44:28 <OsteHovel^EEE> M /trunk/src/ini.cpp 08:44:28 <OsteHovel^EEE> -Fix (r15686): The config file was not updated on Windows because rename() can't replace existing files. 08:44:33 <OsteHovel^EEE> it was michi_cc 08:45:06 <pavel1269> ye, looked at it now :-P 08:46:10 <pavel1269> this is best thing i love on openttd, you found bug, which is really .... bad .... and second day, it might be fixed :-) 08:46:28 <pavel1269> openttd devs are doing great work ;) 08:47:00 *** planetmaker is now known as Cooper 08:47:39 *** Cooper is now known as planetmaker 08:48:15 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest1004 08:48:52 *** Guest1004 is now known as planetmaker 08:52:39 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:52:56 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has left #openttd [] 08:55:05 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 08:57:30 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:57:51 <Zuu> regarding r15707, is shellapi.h included on WIN64 already? shellapi.h is only included for WIN32, but not WIN64. http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset?new=15707%40%2F&old=15706%40%2F 08:59:39 <pavel1269> this one is funny for me :-) 08:59:41 <pavel1269> #else 08:59:41 <pavel1269> 307 331 rename(file_new, filename); 08:59:42 <pavel1269> #else 08:59:42 <pavel1269> 307 331 rename(file_new, filename); 08:59:51 <pavel1269> omg sry for duplicate 09:01:25 <OsteHovel^EEE> Hot food in the morning is so GOOD... 09:01:32 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:01:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> Are food in the morning called Breakfast? 09:01:53 <Zuu> Depends if you are English or not I guess :) 09:04:41 <Cybertinus> hi 09:04:45 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:06 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 09:05:14 <Alberth> good morning Cybertinus 09:05:18 <Cybertinus> OsteHovel^EEE: yeah, the food you eat in the morning is called Breakfast 09:06:00 <petern> Zuu: i think WIN32 is defined whatever windows is in use 09:06:21 <petern> or ... who knows 09:06:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> ;P 09:06:49 <Zuu> Ok, so why add || WIN64 at one spot, but not all? 09:07:01 <petern> i don't know, hence "or ... who knows" 09:07:06 <Zuu> :) 09:07:41 <OsteHovel^EEE> Zuu: maybe they forgot to add || WIN64 this time 09:10:18 <OsteHovel^EEE> I FUCKED up my installation of mingw on my compile server 09:15:20 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:26:40 <pavel1269> :-) 09:27:15 <OsteHovel^EEE> :-) 09:28:14 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 09:33:05 <pavel1269> bad error occured :-( 09:33:58 <pavel1269> http://paste.openttd.org/180385 09:34:11 <OsteHovel^EEE> MoveFileEX do NOT work on Windows 98 09:34:12 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 09:34:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> Rubidium: MoveFileEX do NOT work on Windows 98 09:34:34 <pavel1269> he knew that haha 09:34:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe 09:34:56 <OsteHovel^EEE> I just needed to try it 09:35:04 <pavel1269> <Rubidium> hmm... MoveFileEx: Requires Windows NT 3.1 or later; Win9x/ME: Not supported 09:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> Do openttd run on win9x? 09:35:51 <petern> (does) 09:35:54 <petern> not any more :D 09:36:02 <Sacro> fuck em 09:36:04 <Sacro> and the os/2 lot 09:36:09 <Sacro> and osx 10.3 09:36:12 <Sacro> and erm 09:36:12 <petern> win95 is... nearly 15 years old 09:36:17 <Sacro> petern: almost legal 09:36:22 <petern> nobody should be use.... 09:36:22 <OsteHovel^EEE> :p 09:36:23 <petern> sacro 09:36:27 <pavel1269> any idea with my error? :-/ 09:36:37 <petern> win95's been fucking you far longer already 09:36:46 <Sacro> true dat 09:36:53 <Sacro> i went 95 - 2k - xp 09:37:49 <OsteHovel^EEE> i went: DOS -> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 3.11 -> Windows 95 -> Windows 98 -> Windows NT 4.0 -> Windows 2k -> Windows XP (and im stuck at XP) 09:38:12 <pavel1269> same hehe .... but i skipped NT 4.0 :-) 09:38:45 <OsteHovel^EEE> I will never forget the Bluescreen 09:38:51 <OsteHovel^EEE> i forgot: -> Linux 09:39:28 <pavel1269> BSOD .-P 09:39:33 <pavel1269> sounds like a game haha 09:39:37 <taisteluorava> windows 7 will be pretty nice. you can even disable IE8 09:39:45 <pavel1269> :-) 09:39:58 <OsteHovel^EEE> :) 09:39:59 <pavel1269> it looks like, they will finaly do sth what is working :-) 09:40:11 <pavel1269> on way it has to :-) 09:40:46 <Sacro> taisteluorava: list 09:40:48 <Sacro> *lise 09:40:49 <Sacro> er 09:40:50 <Sacro> lies 09:40:52 <Sacro> stupid mornings 09:40:59 <taisteluorava> no :) 09:41:00 <Sacro> mornings = fail 09:41:17 <taisteluorava> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows-7-internet-explorer,7187.html 09:41:20 <taisteluorava> check it out ^^ 09:43:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:44:04 <pavel1269> cargodest .... http://paste.openttd.org/180386 give this error against current trunk 09:44:10 <Rubidium> Microsoft and "something that is working"? Well...maybe their scams 09:44:29 <pavel1269> MSVS is one, the only one, what is working atm :-) 09:45:49 <Rubidium> gheheh... boost using unlink as parameter/function name? 09:46:42 <pavel1269> static void unlink(node_type* x) 09:46:45 <pavel1269> :-) 09:46:58 <pavel1269> so func name win 09:59:47 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has joined #openttd 10:04:09 <OsteHovel^EEE> Have someone change Squerrrel latly? 10:04:22 <SmatZ> what? 10:04:44 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:05:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> welshdragon: are you here? 10:06:13 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:10:08 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:11:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> hmm 10:12:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> i got a error 10:15:20 <OsteHovel^EEE> http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/new_log.txt 10:17:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B84E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:29 *** |Japa| [~Japa@218.248.70.235] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 10:22:56 <OsteHovel^EEE> Can someone check out my error: http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/new_log.txt (Im using Mingw at Linnux) 10:25:18 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:25:40 <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: http://rafb.net/p/gtGXkq86.html 10:27:27 <Alberth> euhm, my version may be incorrect 10:27:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> " 43 scsprintf(_ss(v)->GetScratchPad(100), _SC("unexpected type %s"), IdType2Name(type)); 10:27:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> " 10:27:56 <OsteHovel^EEE> that was wat i got 10:29:12 <Alberth> sorry, it is correct, I am confused with svn vs hg :( 10:29:40 <Alberth> I don't see a swprintf there 10:31:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> strange 10:32:40 <Alberth> Last change at that line was in r15578 when squirrel got added to trunk 10:34:02 <Alberth> ah, got it: ./squirrel/include/squirrel.h:#define scsprintf swprintf 10:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> SQInteger sq_aux_invalidtype(HSQUIRRELVM v,SQObjectType type) 10:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> { 10:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> scsprintf(_ss(v)->GetScratchPad(100), _SC("unexpected type %s"), IdType2Name(type)); 10:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> return sq_throwerror(v, _ss(v)->GetScratchPad(-1)); 10:35:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> } 10:35:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 10:36:03 <Alberth> seems to depend on SQUNICODE setting 10:36:25 <OsteHovel^EEE> But it worked yesterday... :P 10:36:46 <Alberth> then yesterday you didn't have unicode? :P 10:37:22 <OsteHovel^EEE> no idea 10:38:06 <OsteHovel^EEE> cant remeber install unicode 10:38:16 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:50 <OsteHovel^EEE> if i just used: --disable-unicode ... i think i "fixed" it :;p 10:40:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> hmm 10:40:09 <OsteHovel^EEE> new error 10:40:38 <Alberth> 'man wsprintf' works here, so I may have the function in the C library 10:41:30 <Alberth> what would be the fun if the tools simply worked :P 10:42:51 <OsteHovel^EEE> New log: http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/log2.txt 10:44:05 <SmatZ> your gcc is broken 10:44:21 <OsteHovel^EEE> :p 10:44:21 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 10:44:27 * OsteHovel^EEE need to build it again 10:47:49 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-9-162.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:53:21 <OsteHovel^EEE> i think i know why it all fails 10:53:26 <OsteHovel^EEE> *failed 10:53:36 <pavel1269> :-) 10:53:36 <OsteHovel^EEE> becouse i rember i install libsdl & allegro 10:53:40 <pavel1269> as u said 10:53:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> right before i turned off my pc 10:53:50 <pavel1269> <OsteHovel^EEE> I FUCKED up my installation of mingw on my compile server 10:53:54 <pavel1269> :-) so true 10:54:14 <OsteHovel^EEE> so it finds the libsdl & allegro in /usr/lib | /usr/include and then it includes files from that direcotry 10:54:18 <OsteHovel^EEE> things that i SHOUDENT do 10:54:48 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:53 <OsteHovel^EEE> with flags: --with-sdl=0 and --with-allegro=0 it "worked" 10:54:54 <Alberth> "shouldn't", but I tend to agree 10:54:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> i got a new error 10:55:43 <OsteHovel^EEE> the "./configure" shoud have had a --prefix=/usr/i586-mingw32 so it JUST searching for lib's/include's in that directory and its subdirectories 10:56:21 <Alberth> no, prefix is the destination prefix afaik 10:56:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> --prefix-dir is prefix for destination 10:56:53 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 11:00:35 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:01:35 <Alberth> --prefix-dir is only used with OpenTTD it seems, ./configure manual of Gnu doesn't know that option 11:01:47 *** blathijs [~matthijs@195.85.225.80] has joined #openttd 11:02:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B812F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80039.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:03:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:03:42 <OsteHovel^EEE> if i use --disable-unicode it all fucks up too.. 11:03:51 <Alberth> and OpenTTD doesn't know --prefix 11:04:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> i know thats why it shoud be implented 11:05:42 <Alberth> simply never install the program, and you never have to specify a --prefix-whatever :P 11:06:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 11:06:25 <pavel1269> :-) 11:08:20 <OsteHovel^EEE> check out this error;. 11:08:21 <OsteHovel^EEE> --disable-unicode 11:08:23 <OsteHovel^EEE> *ops 11:08:29 <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:17: 11:08:29 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol 11:08:29 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)' 11:08:29 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const' 11:09:30 <pavel1269> lol at patch :-) 11:09:34 <pavel1269> *path 11:13:30 <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe 11:24:11 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:30:47 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:43 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 11:38:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> I found the error 11:39:44 <OsteHovel^EEE> Line :254 "#define unlink(file) _tunlink(OTTD2FS(file))" in stdafx.h 11:39:44 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 11:40:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> was changed in revision 15706 :P 11:41:21 <SmatZ> r15709: -Remove: support for OS Windows 11:42:14 <petern> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D 11:42:32 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 11:43:02 <Rubidium> sounds like your cross compile environments misses some important pieces of headers 11:43:11 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:42 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:43:43 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:21 <OsteHovel^EEE> but it works if i do remove that line in stdafx.h(line 254) 11:45:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> maybe.. 11:46:44 <Rubidium> OsteHovel^EEE: for what it's worth, look at the diff of r15706 and be amazed that it now breaks for you when it didn't before 11:47:54 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:48:19 <OsteHovel^EEE> (http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/15706 , they just moved OTTD2FS( from fios.cpp to stdafx.h) 11:49:36 <OsteHovel^EEE> strange that it fails 11:53:14 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: haha, i just renamed unlink() :-) 11:53:27 <pavel1269> only in 3 places 11:55:00 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: try this http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=39161&p=772908#p772908 ... that unlink fix :-) 11:57:29 <pavel1269> wait_oneway_signal should have default value 255 12:04:15 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@BAE86ab.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 12:06:37 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: did it help? 12:08:00 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/stupid_mingw.diff <- might have more chance of working 12:08:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> Hmm 12:09:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 12:09:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> it just to remove this line: "#define unlink(file) _tunlink(OTTD2FS(file))" 12:09:54 <OsteHovel^EEE> in stdafx.h 12:10:25 <Rubidium> that does only break it again 12:12:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 12:14:09 <OsteHovel^EEE> i will test your patch Rubidium 12:14:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> testing it now.. 12:14:49 <OsteHovel^EEE> compiling,... 12:15:29 <OsteHovel^EEE> if i use your patch i get this 12:15:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:17: 12:15:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol 12:15:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)' 12:15:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const' 12:15:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> and thats with unicode enabled 12:16:03 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 12:16:22 <OsteHovel^EEE> now building with unicode dissabled 12:16:25 <OsteHovel^EEE> *disabled 12:17:10 <OsteHovel^EEE> It suceeded 12:19:46 <Rubidium> try removing io.h from win32.cpp 12:21:06 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 12:21:39 <OsteHovel^EEE> With or without unicode support? 12:21:45 <Rubidium> both 12:22:05 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 12:22:10 <OsteHovel^EEE> a clean build? 12:22:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> *ops 12:22:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> forget my 2 previus lines 12:23:16 <OsteHovel^EEE> with unicode first: 12:23:37 <OsteHovel^EEE> (without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp) 12:24:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> In file included from /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/fcntl.h:20, 12:24:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> from /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/win32.cpp:18: 12:24:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: 'int _wunlink' redeclared as different kind of symbol 12:24:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/wchar.h:366: error: previous declaration of 'int _wunlink(const wchar_t*)' 12:24:05 <OsteHovel^EEE> /usr/i586-mingw32/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32/4.3.3/../../../../i586-mingw32/include/io.h:306: error: expected primary-expression before 'const' 12:24:18 <Rubidium> then I've got no clue 12:24:30 <OsteHovel^EEE> building with unicode (without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp): 12:24:51 <Rubidium> and someone has to read the headers and figure out what kind of crappy mess they are in 12:25:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> it works 12:25:36 <OsteHovel^EEE> the build works with DISABLE UNICODE and without "#include <io.h>" in win32.cpp 12:26:06 <pavel1269> :-) 12:26:21 <Alberth> it seems io.h gets pulled in again via fcntl.h 12:26:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> so unicode is fucked up on my build system 12:27:36 <Rubidium> no, mingw has made a ginourmous mess of their headers 12:27:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> true 12:28:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> is it posible to use some headers that is with msvc with gcc? 12:29:02 <Alberth> normally header files belong to a specific library, so just copying them will just make a bigger mess when trying to link 12:29:16 <pavel1269> :-) 12:29:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdaf3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:29:31 * pavel1269 kisses his MSVS 12:29:33 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 12:29:33 <OsteHovel^EEE> :p 12:30:06 <OsteHovel^EEE> MSVS SUCKS... becouse i will never be able to compile as fast i do with GCC+DistCC 12:30:46 <petern> uh huh 12:30:59 <petern> never mind that it might be slower because it's optimizing it better...? 12:31:22 <OsteHovel^EEE> (I use linux pc's + windows pc's to make a cluster to compile on) 12:32:09 <pavel1269> thanks peter :-P 12:32:19 <OsteHovel^EEE> But MSVS have a nice IDE :p 12:32:35 <pavel1269> MSVS have everythink better than GCC :-P 12:32:42 <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: using multiple machines to increase compile speed is cheating 12:32:48 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 12:32:49 <pavel1269> :-D 12:33:07 <OsteHovel^EEE> Alberth: the only Reason i can compile openttd on 45 secounds is becouse i use alot of pc's 12:33:34 <pavel1269> ye, MSVS is slow .... one build from scratch is like 5mins :O 12:33:44 <pavel1269> but result is always nice :-) 12:33:53 <Alberth> OsteHovel^EEE: 45 seconds? Thats slow, you don't have enough computer systems obviously :D 12:34:03 <OsteHovel^EEE> but MSVS HAS MUCH better Optimizations than GCC/MINGW 12:34:15 <OsteHovel^EEE> its a cluster of SUCKING OLD pc's :P 12:34:28 <pavel1269> Reason: Assertion failed at ..\src\settings_gui.cpp:714: this->d.entry.setting != NULL 12:34:28 <pavel1269> Language: czech.lng 12:34:38 <pavel1269> that assertation means, string empty? 12:34:48 <planetmaker> jo 12:34:54 <Alberth> non-existing patch option name I think 12:34:55 <pavel1269> other words ... lng broken :-/ 12:35:25 <Rubidium> pavel1269: the lng is just fine 12:35:39 <planetmaker> pavel1269: if there's no such string, it needs to be in english.txt 12:35:44 <planetmaker> but it isn't there, either. 12:35:47 <planetmaker> --> broken patch 12:35:48 <Alberth> s/patch option/advanced setting/ 12:35:54 <Rubidium> the assertion fails because you try to add a non-existing setting to the settings window 12:36:00 <pavel1269> okay 12:36:59 <pavel1269> strange is .... all patches on their own ... work, together its broken, and in places where it hadnt conficts ... :/ 12:38:08 <Alberth> pavel1269: the joys of modified meaning of values in variables 12:38:10 <Rubidium> lovely tools automatically 'resolving' conflicts in the wrong way 12:38:26 <pavel1269> Rubidium: it not automatic ... i do it manualy 12:38:54 <Rubidium> pavel1269: patch (and friends) all resolve conflicts to some degree 12:39:30 <pavel1269> hmm .... thats bad :-O 12:41:22 <Alberth> They are right most of the time. However, you cannot trust them blindly, and you need to check after wards 12:41:47 <pavel1269> what check? 12:42:04 <Alberth> whether they modified the right part of the code. 12:42:40 <Alberth> (in the good way) :) 12:43:02 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 12:43:13 <Wolf01> hello 12:43:16 <pavel1269> hi 12:43:19 <Alberth> hello Wolf01 12:43:29 <pavel1269> Alberth: sometimes its nearly impossible 12:43:56 <Alberth> pavel1269: I never said it was easy 12:45:43 <Alberth> In general, you need to understand how the program works, and how each patch modifies that behavior. Then you should be able to understand where problems may arise. 12:47:41 <pavel1269> if this error means, some string is missing .... i sohuld only check if all strings defined? 12:48:23 <Alberth> it is the name of a advanced settings that does not exist 12:48:25 <Rubidium> this error means: setting not defined even though you want it to be shown in the settings gui 12:48:44 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:51:12 <Alberth> in the same d.entry is also the name that is attempted. With a debugger you should be able to get that value at the time of the crash. Then you'll have the precise name of the non-existing setting. 12:51:15 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:58 <pavel1269> with debugger, you mean, i should debug it manually with MSVS? :O 12:53:36 <Alberth> alternatively, you can invent an artificial intelligent being that does the debugging for you 12:53:44 <OsteHovel^EEE> hehe 12:54:02 <OsteHovel^EEE> pavel1269: can you upload the patched openttd source and i can try to debug it... 12:54:02 <KingJ> heh, just come across my original transport tycoon delux box 12:54:08 <pavel1269> no other way, like openttd.exe -d ? :-) 12:54:27 <pavel1269> thats it ... 12:55:15 <OsteHovel^EEE> Can i PM you pavel1269? 12:55:26 <pavel1269> this client dont support sending files :-( 12:55:37 <pavel1269> ur nick on tt forums? 12:55:39 <planetmaker> use tt-forums 12:55:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> (or just upload directly to me: ftp.ostsoft.net/incomming 12:57:22 <pavel1269> failed? 12:57:40 <pavel1269> ahh here we goo :-) 12:57:42 <pavel1269> all.patch 12:58:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> fuck 12:58:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> i maybe fucked up your upload 12:58:32 <pavel1269> reupload? 12:58:37 <OsteHovel^EEE> how big was the file? 12:58:47 <OsteHovel^EEE> 255kb? 12:58:55 <pavel1269> 261 048 12:58:56 <pavel1269> y 12:59:11 <OsteHovel^EEE> :p 12:59:15 <pavel1269> 254,9 :-P 12:59:36 <Alberth> ascii-mode transfer? 12:59:42 <OsteHovel^EEE> 261048 byte 12:59:48 <pavel1269> so debug ;) 13:00:14 <OsteHovel^EEE> if people want the uploaded file its here: http://ostsoft.net/~ostehovel/files/openttd/all.patch 13:02:06 <OsteHovel^EEE> lol just need to clean my openttd trunk dir 13:02:07 <OsteHovel^EEE> :P 13:02:34 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:02:37 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:03:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.210.202] has joined #openttd 13:04:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> This patch need's boost 13:04:33 <pavel1269> y 13:04:41 <OsteHovel^EEE> i dont have boost.. yet.. 13:04:45 <pavel1269> :-/ 13:04:53 <pavel1269> okay ... gonna try on my own 13:05:04 <OsteHovel^EEE> (downloading boost now) 13:10:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.138] has joined #openttd 13:11:47 <pavel1269> if(this->d.entry.setting == NULL) DEBUG(misc, 0, this->d.entry.name ); 13:11:52 <pavel1269> jsut before assert :-P 13:13:13 <OsteHovel^EEE> do someone here have the Boost libs+includes for mingw? 13:14:30 <pavel1269> doesnt work together? 13:14:44 <OsteHovel^EEE> hmm 13:14:57 <petern> you only need the includes 13:14:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> im using Linux as Host but crosscompiling to windows 13:16:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 13:17:08 <OsteHovel^EEE> now its compiling the rest of openttd 13:17:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.199.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:18:27 <OsteHovel^EEE> the patch is suposedly working fine here 13:18:33 <OsteHovel^EEE> what shoud the patch do? 13:18:42 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 13:18:47 <pavel1269> many things :-) 13:18:52 <OsteHovel^EEE> it fucks when you press settings 13:18:55 <pavel1269> ye 13:19:03 <pavel1269> thats the problem :-) 13:23:57 <pavel1269> lol!!! 13:25:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v Darkvater] by ChanServ 13:26:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 13:30:11 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@BAE86ab.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:49 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: so, hows debuggin? :-) 13:30:57 <OsteHovel^EEE> sucking 13:30:59 <OsteHovel^EEE> fuck 13:31:04 <OsteHovel^EEE> ***** 13:31:13 <Aali> pavel1269: will you please remove your broken crap from the cargodest thread 13:31:18 <OsteHovel^EEE> trying a new way 13:31:21 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:31:25 <pavel1269> Aali: sorry ... 13:32:54 <Aali> keep the unlink fix in there though, it might come in handy 13:34:14 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:34:17 *** Gekz_ [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [] 13:34:29 <pavel1269> but it repairs only colision with boost libs, bot that broken gcc 13:34:35 <pavel1269> úbut not 13:34:39 <pavel1269> ** 13:35:30 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:35:33 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:35:51 <OsteHovel^EEE> your patch break compiling of openttd for linux 13:36:06 <pavel1269> :-O how can he? 13:36:45 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:58 <OsteHovel^EEE> /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/fios.cpp: In function 'bool FiosDelete(const char*)': 13:36:58 <OsteHovel^EEE> /home/ostehovel/openttd/trunk/src/fios.cpp:168: error: 'unlink_ottd' was not declared in this scope 13:37:00 <pavel1269> btw .. the missing name is economy.pax_dest_type .... so patch did sth wrong 13:37:10 <OsteHovel^EEE> i know 13:37:20 <OsteHovel^EEE> i see its in settings_economy 13:37:24 <OsteHovel^EEE> in the backtrace 13:37:32 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:37:49 <Aali> don't bother with that 13:38:02 <Aali> I'm making a proper update to cargodest 13:38:07 <OsteHovel^EEE> ok 13:38:26 <pavel1269> great 13:39:31 <pavel1269> dunno what patch broke, but ... its really bad, that STR is not empty ..... gonna leave this to sameone, who know, whats he doing :-/ 13:40:03 <Aali> you reversed the savegame bump 13:40:21 <Aali> so the setting doesn't exist in the current saveload version 13:40:37 <pavel1269> oh, i see now :-X 13:40:42 <pavel1269> thanks 13:42:36 <Aali> I'm introducing a constant for the saveload version so next time there's a savegame bump, you'll get a .rej instead of a prompt to reverse the change 13:42:50 <Aali> maybe that will stop people from posting broken patches.. 13:42:59 <pavel1269> i dont like savegame bumping, never know .... everytime openttd bumped +1 ... and i compiled my patches again +1 bump ... old savegames broken :-/ 13:43:31 <Aali> well, thats just how it works 13:43:42 <pavel1269> Aali: i had .rej file, but ignored him .... ( already applyed patch, apply anyway? or somethink similar ) 13:43:45 <Aali> keep old versions of your patchpack around if you want to play old savegames 13:43:55 <Aali> that's not a .rej 13:45:00 <pavel1269> but, why its broken, since that patch existe since savegame bump 84? why it dont work like from 85 -> 86 .... why 13:45:10 <pavel1269> talking about my ones now 13:45:53 <pavel1269> the patches from 86 should not work for 85 and below, okay, but not newer ... or i am doing again somethink wrong :-) 13:46:27 <Aali> you can make a new(er) trunk version that will load your savegames, but then you break loading of trunk savegames instead 13:47:13 <pavel1269> :-) 13:47:14 <Aali> if your patch used saveload version 84 or whatever, you can "reserve" that for your patch, but then you wont be able to load trunk games with saveload version 84 13:47:49 <pavel1269> even, if its CONDVAR? 13:47:50 <OsteHovel^EEE> why arent savegames saved in a easily extendeble format? 13:47:51 <Aali> it may still break though 13:48:12 <pavel1269> the only problem with mine patch is with that bimpage ... right? 13:48:16 <OsteHovel^EEE> true 13:48:34 <Aali> OsteHovel^EEE: it is easily extendible, for trunk 13:48:49 <Aali> why should they spend time making all the different patches compatible? 13:48:57 <pavel1269> okay ... 13:50:09 <pavel1269> so if i will remove/bump savegame ... its okay, then, why it is sooo broken? 13:51:54 <Aali> that patch would not even load its own savegames properly 13:52:22 <pavel1269> even if version 116? 13:53:12 <Aali> if you set the version to 116 you also have to update all the fields that used the old version 13:54:00 <Aali> but like I said, it doesn't matter, I'm working on a proper update 13:56:14 <pavel1269> it load just fine :-) 13:57:25 <Aali> try loading a savegame made with clean trunk, same revision 13:58:46 <Aali> and if you're talking about the patch you posted on the forums, that one will load its savegames but none of the cargodest stuff will be stored in the savegame 13:59:01 <pavel1269> oh 13:59:57 <pavel1269> so src/saveload/station_sl.cpp, saveload.cpp and setting.cpp ... all need an update? 14:00:39 <Aali> and cargopacket 14:21:32 <Wolf01> mmmh convoyAI needs an update too... I think now there are enough elements to know if the road station is not compatible with the vehicle, I have a lot of vehicles with only a "go to depot" order because the AI failed to give them orders (trying to send articulated rvs to road bays instead of roadstops) 14:21:39 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:39 *** TSC [~user@ppp118-208-232-240.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:33 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@062016205204.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:19 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E428.versanet.de] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 14:31:36 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E428.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:44:23 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@e177140082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:53:58 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:57:00 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:24 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@084202129118.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 15:09:26 <OsteHovel^EEE> pavel1269: do your patches works fine for you now? 15:13:53 <eQualizer> And already I like 0.7.0 beta 15:19:31 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:31 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest33 15:19:32 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 15:23:38 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:25:43 *** Guest33 [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:18 <Zuu> eQualizer: Nice to hear you enjoy the 0.7.0 betas. Good that people are testing them and hopefully report bugs they encounter. :) 15:26:30 <pavel1269> OsteHovel^EEE: y 15:28:56 <pavel1269> gonna rework realistic/safer crossing ... both of them 15:31:13 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:20 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-220-29.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:34:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15709 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Change [FS#2729]: be a tad more specific about the fact that you're building incompatible tracks when building incompatible track types on the same tile. 15:38:22 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:38:27 <yorick> hm, openttd fails to compile here 15:39:19 <yorick> http://pastebin.com/m1f83afc7 15:40:12 <Zuu> yorick: That one is known 15:40:16 <frosch123> update to r15710 15:40:32 <yorick> there is no 15610 15:40:38 <yorick> 15710* 15:40:46 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:06 <SmatZ> wait until it's available :-p 15:42:47 <Zuu> yorick: You can stay < 15706 if you want untill it is fixed. 15:42:56 <Ammler> hehe 15:43:33 <Ammler> btw.: 31738 openttd 25 10 3064m 22m 3464 R 30 1.1 363:47.72 openttd 15:43:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15710 /trunk/src/ (fios.cpp fontcache.cpp stdafx.h video/win32_v.cpp win32.cpp): -Fix (r15706): for non MSVC io.h needs to be included before defining unlink. Also remove redundant tchar.h includes as it is already in stdafx.h. 15:44:06 <yorick> thanks 15:46:05 <Ammler> how to see the limit for virtual ram on root servers? 15:46:40 <Rubidium> ~3 GB for 32 bits, ~256 GB for default 64 bits 15:47:18 *** lurobep [~lurobep@193.43.249.169] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:15 <Rubidium> with linux that is 15:49:54 <Alberth> that line looks like output from a linux process :) 15:51:34 <OsteHovel^EEE> 4 gb with 32bit :P 15:51:38 <OsteHovel^EEE> per process 15:52:49 <petern> Ammler, upgrade ;) 15:52:53 <Rubidium> OsteHovel^EEE: can you prove that with a reliable source? 15:53:05 <Ammler> petern: another fix in trunk? 15:53:26 <petern> 4GB address space limit, yes, not virtual ram size 15:53:39 <petern> Ammler: ages ago 15:53:50 <Ammler> we run r15654 there 15:53:51 <FauxFaux> PAEin. 15:54:02 <petern> why? 15:54:13 <petern> either stick with stables or update nightlies... 15:54:19 <petern> (or betas) 15:54:37 <Ammler> i thought, the last mem-fix was with 52 15:54:42 <petern> 4 days agorubidium(svn r15663) -Fix: growing of vsize as (some) threads weren't properly released. 15:54:55 <Ammler> oh nice. 15:56:39 <petern> and no comma after 'i thought' either 15:56:58 <Ammler> shame on me :-$ 15:57:01 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet703.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:57:37 <Rubidium> a period instead of the comma would've been okay though ;) 15:57:48 <Ammler> :P 15:57:49 <Rubidium> but it'd mean something completely different 15:58:10 <Ammler> which could be wrong ;-) 15:59:49 <Rubidium> bah... 16:00:00 <Rubidium> I'm an hour to late for UTC pi :( 16:00:04 <Rubidium> s/to/too/ 16:00:27 <petern> i like pie 16:00:52 <Rubidium> hmm... I wasn't 16:01:07 <Rubidium> it's not possible :( 16:01:12 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:01:37 <petern> hmmm? 16:01:43 <Rubidium> unless we redefine time: 3/14 15:92:65 16:01:56 <petern> ahh 16:02:09 <petern> but it's 2009/03/14 ... 16:03:29 <Rubidium> who cares about the year? 16:03:50 <Rubidium> actually... who cares about the day? 3:14 (pm) daily pi(e) time? 16:04:11 <petern> indeed 16:04:39 <planetmaker> :) have a pi pie everyone :) 16:09:26 <Rubidium> I only accept self-made pies ;) 16:09:36 <Rubidium> when can I except it? 16:09:46 <Rubidium> *expect* 16:09:54 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:10:20 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 16:13:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:54 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 16:40:40 <[wito]> am I the only one with build problems? 16:41:11 <Zuu> Nope, upgrade to r15710 16:42:05 <[wito]> I'm at it 16:42:19 <[wito]> toolbar_gui.o: In function `MenuClickHelp(int)': 16:42:20 <[wito]> toolbar_gui.cpp:(.text+0x1bb): undefined reference to `ShowAIDebugWindow()' 16:42:20 <Zuu> Ok, have not tested that r15710 solves the problems myself. 16:42:25 <Zuu> What compiler are you at? 16:42:43 <[wito]> gcc/Ubuntu/64 16:42:52 <Zuu> hmm, and that is another error than the one fixed by r15710 I think. 16:43:31 <petern> works for me 16:48:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-220-29.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:51:25 <glx> [wito]: try make clean 16:51:45 <glx> looks like a makedepend failure 16:51:51 <[wito]> k 16:52:05 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:12 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:56:19 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 17:01:02 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:12:57 <pavel1269> i have TileIndex, DiagDirection and TrackBits .... dow do i determinate next tile? :-) 17:13:16 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@84.202.129.118] has joined #openttd 17:13:45 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@84.202.129.118] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:30 <frosch123> take a look at map_func.h or similiar 17:16:56 <frosch123> or maybe also track_func.h 17:22:12 <pavel1269> :-/ i am lost in bits 17:25:29 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm133.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 17:27:21 <Rubidium> getting lost in a few bits? 17:30:35 <pavel1269> yeah, and very easily 17:30:37 <SmatZ> pavel1269: tile + TileOffsByDiagDir(dir) or so 17:30:49 <Rubidium> TileAddByDiagDir? 17:31:25 <[wito]> anyone else having problems with the newest revisions breaking cargodest? 17:31:49 <SmatZ> Rubidium: or that :) 17:32:22 <petern> nobody else is doing anything with cargodest 17:32:55 <Rubidium> lies... 17:33:41 <Rubidium> I've changed the version of some cargodest bugs in FS (those bugs are not in 0.6.3) 17:33:50 <petern> heh 17:33:54 <Rubidium> and I've added it to the 0.8 roadmap ;) 17:36:30 <pavel1269> what happends, if i call TileAddByDiagDir in crossover? :-) 17:36:52 <yorick> assert? 17:37:10 <pavel1269> :-X 17:37:28 <yorick> that seems to make sense 17:37:49 <Rubidium> crossover? as in that wine where you've got to pay for? 17:38:05 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0C3F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:16 <pavel1269> ? wine? 17:40:03 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrossOver / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software) 17:40:31 <pavel1269> i meant crossing ... crossroad :-) 17:40:37 <pavel1269> but rail one : 17:40:39 <pavel1269> *:P 17:41:07 <SmatZ> why should TileAddByDiagDir do anything special in that case? 17:41:29 <SmatZ> it just increases/decreases x/y coordinate of tile 17:41:33 <SmatZ> *tile index 17:41:40 <SmatZ> depending on directing 17:41:53 <SmatZ> it has nothing to do with whatever is present on that tile 17:42:44 <pavel1269> ... no way ... i will leave this to sameone else :-) 17:43:37 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45:42 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DCF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:13 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:05:40 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:04 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:11:35 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15711 /trunk/src/ (53 files in 10 dirs): -Codechange: lots of whitespace cleanup/fixes 18:21:35 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:44 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 18:39:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15712 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) 18:39:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-14 18:38:56 18:39:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 4 fixed by arnaullv (4) 18:39:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 3 fixed by jpx_ (3) 18:39:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 3 fixed by glx (3) 18:39:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 3 fixed by planetmaker (3) 18:39:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 fixed, 1 changed by alyr (2) 18:44:28 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm133.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: sleep] 18:46:25 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46:47 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:01:26 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-220-29.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:05:09 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 19:09:12 <taisteluorava> hm, is jpx_ ever here? 19:09:50 <frosch123> you can also try #tycoon 19:10:24 <taisteluorava> ok 19:11:42 <frosch123> @seen jpx* 19:11:42 <DorpsGek> frosch123: I haven't seen anyone matching jpx*. 19:11:45 <frosch123> @seen jupix 19:11:46 <DorpsGek> frosch123: jupix was last seen in #openttd 27 weeks, 0 days, 6 hours, 33 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <Jupix> I think I'd be a bit out of my league with that one 19:12:30 <frosch123> so to answer your question, yes he has been here 19:16:13 *** Feli_HEADACHE is now known as Felicitus 19:21:33 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37DCF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22:27 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 19:23:55 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-220-29.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:02 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]] 19:24:09 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:28 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:24:47 <Rubidium> hello owl 19:25:13 <Nite_Owl> Hello Rubidium 19:37:07 <SmatZ> hello Nite_Owl 19:37:20 <Nite_Owl> Hello SmatZ 19:38:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15713 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Feature(ette): Allow static newgrfs to set 'GRF ID engine overrides', if the source GRF is static. 19:40:19 <blathijs> Featureette? 19:41:01 <petern> too many es :D 19:41:43 <Nite_Owl> close enough with the parenthesis 19:42:02 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:43:35 <SmatZ> blathijs: 'grep Feature\(ette\) svn_log | wc -l' gives "Feature(tte)":13 and "Feature(ette)":11 ;-) 19:44:19 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:08 <frosch123> that does not count if all 11 are from me :p 19:45:40 <SmatZ> I think Belugas likeees too ;) 19:45:57 *** posixninja [~posixninj@adsl-152-113-155.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:15 <frosch123> that does not count either, beluags likes all letters in any order :p 19:46:21 <SmatZ> hehehe 19:52:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15714 /trunk/src/lang/origveh.txt: -Remove: 'Original vehicle names' - err - language... Use the (static) newgrf on BaNaNaS if you care. 19:56:44 <petern> SmatZ should remember -c 20:01:04 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 20:01:22 <SmatZ> petern: I am noob :( 20:01:43 <SmatZ> I wouldn't mind using cat svn_log | grep, but Eddi would eat me alive 20:02:32 <frosch123> | cat | 20:03:37 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:04:03 <Wolf01> 'night 20:04:13 <frosch123> night Wolf01 20:04:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host148-237-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:15:10 *** iola [~conrado@120.50.179.172] has joined #openttd 20:15:12 *** iola [~conrado@120.50.179.172] has left #openttd [] 20:16:13 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:36 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:36 <[wito]> Everybody Feng Shui tonight! (Every body get down.) 20:19:38 <Nite_Owl> I wish I was in Tijuana eating barbecued Iguana 20:20:23 <Nite_Owl> I mean as long as you are going to do up the 80's music thing 20:20:47 <[wito]> Yeye 20:22:41 <[wito]> dammit 20:23:17 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:05 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-104-215.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:19 *** libbey [~giuntini@62.60.136.28] has joined #openttd 20:27:20 *** libbey [~giuntini@62.60.136.28] has left #openttd [] 20:28:05 *** rube [proxy@spomtzsrv003.basebrasilcorretora.com.br] has joined #openttd 20:28:06 <rube> Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip 20:28:06 *** rube [proxy@spomtzsrv003.basebrasilcorretora.com.br] has left #openttd [] 20:28:13 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 20:30:37 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:00 <glx> @op 20:31:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 20:32:11 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!proxy@spomtzsrv003.basebrasilcorretora.com.br] by glx 20:32:28 <glx> @deop 20:32:31 *** mode/#openttd [-o glx] by DorpsGek 20:32:31 <Nite_Owl> shoot the rube 20:32:42 <yorick> using a proxy 20:32:44 *** TSC` [~user@ppp118-208-232-240.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 20:33:43 *** TSC` [~user@ppp118-208-232-240.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34:35 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:34:39 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 20:35:59 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:38:38 *** turcotte [~hoskins@81-31-157-42.vm.dnshosting.it] has joined #openttd 20:38:39 <turcotte> Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip 20:38:39 *** turcotte [~hoskins@81-31-157-42.vm.dnshosting.it] has left #openttd [] 20:39:18 <Nite_Owl> They seem to be spawning 20:39:29 <frosch123> looks like if you download that, your pc will start posting that stuff 20:39:53 <frosch123> so, who in here was 1337 enough to download it? 20:40:56 <Nite_Owl> Hit the 'other' channel as well 20:42:41 <George> what's the cargo class for default cargo FZDR? 20:43:02 <George> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=CargoTypes says it is piece goods 20:43:16 <George> but looks like it is refrigirated 20:43:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15715 /trunk/projects/ (langs_vs80.vcproj langs_vs90.vcproj): -Fix (r15714): Project files. (Thanks michi_cc) 20:44:57 <frosch123> MK( 26, 'FZDR', 48, 2, 6250, 30, 50, true, TE_FOOD, STR_002D_FIZZY_DRINKS, STR_004D_FIZZY_DRINK, STR_ITEMS, STR_QUANTITY_FIZZY_DRINKS, STR_ABBREV_FIZZY_DRINKS, SPR_CARGO_FIZZYDRINK, CC_PIECE_GOODS ), 20:45:06 <frosch123> it is not, unless modified 20:46:41 <frosch123> FOOD and FRUT are the only refridgerated cargos (by default) 20:46:54 <George> Ok, I'll try to make some more tests for my unexpected truck :S 20:47:45 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:06 <George> Are BUBL piece cargo too? 20:48:49 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:48:55 *** pouhyet [~crysta@200.12.44.73] has joined #openttd 20:48:55 *** pouhyet [~crysta@200.12.44.73] has left #openttd [] 20:49:01 <frosch123> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/src/table/cargo_const.h 20:49:33 <taisteluorava> i accidentally closed that bar on mirc where was "file view favorites tools commands etc..." in top. how i can get it back ^^ 20:50:57 <George> frosch123: Could you have a look at http://george.zernebok.net/temp/5LVtruckw.grf 20:51:40 <George> the refrigirated truck tries to transport bubles, while I expected sweets 20:51:41 <taisteluorava> oh, finally got it back 20:51:53 <George> I can't find what am I doing wrong 20:52:34 * taisteluorava ( NoNameScript 4.22 :: by greeny & mute :: www.nnscript.com :: www.esnation.com ) 20:52:41 <taisteluorava> ups 20:53:13 <George> stupid me. Bug found. Sorry 20:53:50 <frosch123> np :) 20:57:08 *** JLKalmar [~56117c14@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:16 <JLKalmar> hi all 20:57:32 <JLKalmar> Anyone online? 20:57:50 <frosch123> 121 to be exact 20:58:00 <JLKalmar> lol 20:58:01 <JLKalmar> ay 20:58:01 <George> frosch123: Could you suggest me what to do with armoured truck. The problem is that Gold, Diamonds, Valuables are 0A (type B), while in tyland plastick has 0A. What value should I set to RV's prop 10 (armoured van) to make it transpor bubles in toyland, not plastic? 20:58:06 <JLKalmar> but noone seems to be talking 20:58:11 <planetmaker> frosch123: I'm sure more people are online 20:58:24 <planetmaker> I'm actually quite happy that not all are in this channel, though ;) 20:58:28 <JLKalmar> Has anyone considered a modification where the game has its own car traffic system 20:58:36 <planetmaker> yes 20:58:39 <JLKalmar> the roads seem empty with just my vehicles roaming about 20:58:50 <planetmaker> run AIs 20:59:00 <planetmaker> and you'll have in no time giant traffic jams. 20:59:02 <JLKalmar> are there any Traffic AI? 20:59:31 <planetmaker> many AIs which use RV only 20:59:46 <planetmaker> like convoy which only uses busses. 20:59:47 <frosch123> George: use action7 to check climate or cargo-availabilty 20:59:53 <planetmaker> That fills towns pretty quickly 21:00:01 <JLKalmar> hmm 21:00:58 <JLKalmar> It would be better if there was a seperate AI for just cars 21:00:59 <frosch123> JLKalmar: note, the AIs planetmaker is talking about are 0.7 stuff 21:01:11 <planetmaker> uhm, yes :) 21:01:22 <JLKalmar> i didnt understand that frosch... 21:01:31 <planetmaker> OpenTTD v0.7.0-beta2 21:01:31 <JLKalmar> the traffic jams wouldnt be too bad though 21:01:36 <JLKalmar> it would be rather realistic 21:01:37 <planetmaker> 0.6.3 won't do 21:01:57 <JLKalmar> is there a traffic AI in 0,7,0 beta? 21:02:11 <planetmaker> there's no "traffic AI". 21:02:24 <planetmaker> But there's a number of AIs which build many road vehicles. 21:02:33 <George> frosch123: I tried to set it to FF and looks like it works as intended. What do you think about such a solution? 21:02:35 <planetmaker> servicing the towns using them 21:02:49 <planetmaker> or rather using them in order to service the towns and make money 21:02:56 <JLKalmar> ay, but then u get loads of bus stops and the like 21:03:09 <Ammler> [22:02] <planetmaker> there's no "traffic AI". <-- nice idea pm ;-) 21:03:13 <planetmaker> sure, JLKalmar 21:03:33 <JLKalmar> Ammler? 21:03:33 <Zuu> Yep, but you wanted crowdy streets didn't you? 21:03:35 <Ammler> a AI generating only RVs with no orders 21:03:45 <JLKalmar> That would be good 21:03:49 <JLKalmar> no orders RVs 21:03:55 <JLKalmar> i wanted it crowded with cars 21:04:02 <JLKalmar> not with bus stops :p 21:04:06 <George> JLKalmar: That would be bad 21:04:21 <Ammler> JLKalmar: there are some funny cars grfs... 21:04:26 <planetmaker> why do you mind the bus stops? 21:04:26 <Zuu> Ammler: Perhaps one MM airline, and then pumping out zero capacity RVs 21:04:34 <frosch123> George: that will use the first refittable, so if you set the refit mask accordingly it should be fine 21:04:39 <JLKalmar> because cars wouldnt go searching for bustops :p 21:04:47 <George> You'll need it to have special vehicles and special code to make them not big problem on the road 21:05:00 <Ammler> Zuu: can't the ai cheat? 21:05:01 <planetmaker> JLKalmar: well. But it doesn't necessarily look like searching. 21:05:05 <JLKalmar> i just had a thought of a temporary idea 21:05:07 <planetmaker> Ammler: no 21:05:09 <Zuu> Ammler: Nope 21:05:20 <JLKalmar> use the cheat console to play as play 8 or 10 or whatever 21:05:24 <Ammler> oh, that isn't fair :P 21:05:30 <JLKalmar> build a road thing 21:05:32 <JLKalmar> build loads of cars 21:05:39 <JLKalmar> then change back to ur own player lol 21:05:44 <Zuu> Ammler: Though you can cheat for it, change player to the AI and give it lots of money. 21:05:51 <JLKalmar> ay 21:06:10 <Zuu> That is how I keep my PAXLink AI alive :) 21:06:21 <JLKalmar> PAXLink? 21:06:23 <JLKalmar> whats that? 21:06:30 <Ammler> hehe 21:06:49 <Zuu> An AI than force citienses to airports and then flew them to other cities. :) muhahah 21:06:50 <planetmaker> JLKalmar: the name of an AI 21:06:57 <planetmaker> Which Zuu happens to be the author of 21:07:14 <planetmaker> Everyone can write his/her own AI in squirrel 21:07:31 <Zuu> Its "only" one about week of work, so it still strugels to make money. 21:07:38 <Ammler> "her" might be obsolete :-( 21:07:43 <planetmaker> :P 21:08:12 <JLKalmar> ok ive looked it up 21:08:14 <JLKalmar> know what it is :P 21:08:41 <JLKalmar> Mmmm btw 21:08:42 <Zuu> "her" or "squirrel"? :p 21:08:46 <planetmaker> :D 21:08:52 <JLKalmar> does anyone know of a complete 32bpp release? 21:09:00 <planetmaker> There ain't none 21:09:42 <planetmaker> but search the tt-forums for thread on it. 21:14:30 <George> frosch123: Thank you, this is working. 21:18:01 <petern> ain't none? so there is at least one? 21:19:07 <planetmaker> :P 21:19:41 <Ammler> I once made a torrent, maybe it is still around ;-) 21:19:55 <petern> my 32 bpp set is complete 21:19:57 <petern> ly unfinished 21:19:58 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.66] has joined #openttd 21:20:11 <TrueBrain> [/prog/openttd/trunk/src/core/smallvec_type.hpp:29]: (error) Class SmallVector which is inherited by class AutoFreeSmallVector does not have a virtual destructor <- how valid is such error? 21:20:13 <TrueBrain> (hi all ;)) 21:21:38 <Zuu> Hello TrueBrain 21:21:58 <TrueBrain> [/prog/openttd/trunk/src/console_cmds.cpp:880]: (error) Resource leak: _iconsole_output_file 21:22:02 <TrueBrain> hihi :) I like this tool :p 21:22:03 <glx> petern: lol 21:23:00 <TrueBrain> (the last one is a false error, FYI) 21:23:54 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 21:26:51 <eQualizer> What does submarines do? :D 21:26:56 <eQualizer> I just found one. 21:27:07 <Prof_Frink> eQualizer: Nothing. 21:27:09 <[wito]> eQualizer: nothing, IIRC 21:27:22 <eQualizer> Ok 21:27:32 <FauxFaux> Nothing at all. 21:27:33 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: It could mean overriding the destructor will fail in AutoFreeSmallVector, but my c++ knowledge is not that good 21:27:54 <valhallasw> as C++ probably has something special with destructors and class inheritance 21:28:01 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: that conclusion I made too; I was more wondering if someone's C++ knowledge was enough to answer that with certainty ;) 21:28:54 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet703.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:29:27 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: google brings me to http://www.codersource.net/cpp_virtual_destructors.html 21:29:54 <TrueBrain> [./core/bitmath_func.hpp:25]: (style) Function parameter 'x' is passed by value. It could be passed by reference instead. <- ghehe :) 21:30:15 <TrueBrain> (false btw, in this case) 21:30:28 <Zuu> hmm, I rarely declare my base class destructors as virtual. Is that a problem? 21:30:44 <TrueBrain> Zuu: gcc normally complains sooner or later 21:30:51 <Zuu> Ok 21:30:57 <[wito]> Yexo: you around? 21:31:06 <TrueBrain> I am just running a lint over OpenTTD, wondering what it comes up with :p 21:31:12 <TrueBrain> (cppcheck-1.30) 21:31:13 <valhallasw> heh. 21:32:44 * valhallasw is wondering if brainfuck could be implemented in robocom 21:32:53 <TrueBrain> why would you want o do tht?! 21:33:02 <TrueBrain> (both brainfuck as robocom :p) 21:34:10 <valhallasw> because my mind has been fried by robocom the last two days 21:34:20 <TrueBrain> following KI classes? :P 21:34:23 <valhallasw> *nod* 21:34:27 <TrueBrain> making flags again? 21:34:48 <valhallasw> more like a target board 21:35:00 * TrueBrain looks up the assignment of this year :p 21:36:34 <eQualizer> Is there any way to have both japanese and finnish symbols to show correctly in OpenTTD? By default, all japanese symbols show ????, but if I do what readme tells my, öÀå shows up looking like boxes. I'm running Mac OS X if that makes any difference. 21:36:36 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: the deadline was a few days ago ..... :p 21:37:04 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: what calendar are you using, exactly? :P 21:37:12 <TrueBrain> the 17th ... 21:37:14 <TrueBrain> oh 21:37:16 <TrueBrain> LOL! 21:37:17 <TrueBrain> sorry :) 21:37:26 <TrueBrain> my mind is a few days off :p 21:37:49 <TrueBrain> I still need to take the exam of that course ... :p 21:38:16 <valhallasw> ghehe 21:38:20 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: nice pattern you have to create this year :p I had to make a flag .. was nasty ;) 21:38:28 <SpComb> Zuu: if you delete a base class object with a non-virtual dtor, the inheriting class's dtor won't be called 21:38:29 <TrueBrain> this in fact might be slightly more doable ... 21:39:10 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: the hard part is not the AI. it's the language ;) 21:39:13 <Zuu> SpComb: Okay, thats nasty. Guess I have something to put up on my todo then 21:39:25 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: hehehehe :) Fair enough :) Took me a few hours before I could do with it what I wanted 21:39:29 <TrueBrain> used nasty tricks :p 21:39:46 <TrueBrain> I love Kosters for his weird ideas .. :) 21:39:50 <valhallasw> I have been thinking of -at least- adding some sort of macro compiler 21:40:01 <TrueBrain> not worth the effort :) 21:40:09 <valhallasw> nah :) 21:40:11 <TrueBrain> I still need to suggest to Kosters to use OpenTTD as nexts years assignment :p 21:40:51 <valhallasw> that, now, would be an useful assignment :P 21:40:59 <TrueBrain> a bit too big for his taste, I guess :) 21:41:24 <valhallasw> 'use three AI bots to build a flag using trains' :P 21:41:25 <TrueBrain> the Neural Network is cool :) 21:41:30 <TrueBrain> hahahaha :) 21:42:12 <valhallasw> although I think communication between AI's might be a bit simpler in ottd :) 21:42:42 <TrueBrain> btw, the cooperation part of Robocom is fun :) The competition on the other hand ... there are so many many many bots out there, it is REALLY hard to come up with something original 21:43:53 <valhallasw> *shrug* 21:44:09 <TrueBrain> it is fun that once a year you see some dutch people in top of the ranking boards :p 21:45:10 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-167-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:29 <pavel1269> gn 21:46:36 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: I think that you can make your RoboCom like that, that it makes the target board in 99% of the cases :p 21:47:31 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has left #openttd [http://quassel-irc.org - Pohodlné vykecávánÃ. Odkudkoliv.] 21:47:32 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: nope. it has two bots so it's impossible to do it in a symmetrical situation 21:47:38 <JLKalmar> Anyone 21:47:44 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 21:47:48 <JLKalmar> what do i use to write AI?? 21:47:49 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: for flags, that was very true 21:47:58 <TrueBrain> but for this .. I am not sure :) 21:48:03 <TrueBrain> JLKalmar: any text-editor you like 21:48:26 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: well, of course you are right, that is where the 1% comes from ;) 21:48:26 <JLKalmar> in that case 21:48:33 <JLKalmar> how do i write AI :P 21:48:42 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: the hardest part is making those 2 bots find eachother :) 21:48:53 <TrueBrain> (and by the lack of 'random' ... ;)) 21:49:02 <TrueBrain> but okay :) I loved the assignment ... ;) 21:49:12 <TrueBrain> JLKalmar: wiki.openttd.org, find the NoAI section .. I guess that is a nice start :) 21:49:53 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: hmyes, you could just rotate and try again if they are antiparallel. 21:50:14 <TrueBrain> but okay .. I noticed in the end it was too much fuzz to resolve all those cases :p 21:50:24 <TrueBrain> it meant even more states in my state-machine ... :p 21:50:39 <valhallasw> yeah 21:51:01 <JLKalmar> thanks 21:51:08 <TrueBrain> JLKalmar: make us some good AIs ;) 21:52:53 <Zuu> No idea about Kosters, but perhaps he like that OpenTTD uses squirrel, which is not really mainstream :) 21:53:15 <TrueBrain> hehehe :) 21:53:21 <valhallasw> oh noes, kosters is even known in sweden? :P 21:53:51 <Zuu> No, but you talked about him and I got some ideas about him from what you said. 21:54:09 <TrueBrain> he is one of the best professors I known in the IT department :) 21:54:45 <TrueBrain> anyway, Zuu, his AI course introduces 4 forms of AI in a very small praticum .. OpenTTD doesn't fit in the 'small' part :( 21:54:46 <valhallasw> I'm not sure if that says something about him or about the rest of the CS department ;) 21:55:06 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: I guess you are right ;) 21:55:07 <Zuu> :-) 21:55:22 <TrueBrain> There is one other, she gives Theory of Concurency, which is also really good at her job 21:55:30 <TrueBrain> most others so far ... well .. not really that impressed ;) 21:55:47 <valhallasw> *grin* 21:56:02 <valhallasw> *cough* algorithms *cough* complexity 21:56:22 <TrueBrain> Kosters btw was able to teach C++ to people who had no interest in programming within 1 month .. that is impressive if you ask me ;) (Astronomers btw) 21:56:26 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: v.d. Graaf?!?!? 21:56:35 <TrueBrain> that is one of the worst teachers I have seen (with all do respect) 21:56:35 <valhallasw> yeah 21:56:47 <TrueBrain> I can't sit out 100 minutes with her .... 21:56:49 <TrueBrain> I have to leave after 50 21:56:52 <TrueBrain> I really do ..... 21:56:57 <valhallasw> *grin* 21:56:59 * TrueBrain shiffers 21:57:03 <Zuu> Teaching people not interested in programming is impressive :) 21:57:03 <valhallasw> astronomers start of good, with c++ 21:57:09 <valhallasw> then they get IDL and IRAF 21:57:11 <valhallasw> *shudder* 21:57:15 <TrueBrain> IRAF is not a language :p 21:57:19 <TrueBrain> IRAF is a piece of shit :) 21:57:21 <TrueBrain> IDL is nice :) 21:57:37 <valhallasw> yeah. the first 2 minutes you use it 21:57:43 <TrueBrain> nah 21:57:45 <TrueBrain> I like IDL 21:57:49 <TrueBrain> I can do a lot with IDL :) 21:58:07 <valhallasw> I can so a lot with it, too, but it's not good for the amount of hair on my head 21:58:14 <TrueBrain> (IDL can handle 2d data really fast, for those who care :p) 21:58:16 <Zuu> Our first programming lecturer, he was arogant towards everyone who couldn't program, so only the few share that knew programming good since before (where I belonged) though he was okay. 21:58:31 <TrueBrain> Zuu: nasty :p 21:58:40 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: my hair is pretty intact ;) 21:58:57 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: I wouldn't exactly call it... fast 21:59:08 <TrueBrain> on 2D data? I can't do it faster in C++ 21:59:10 <TrueBrain> so yeah, it is fast 21:59:45 <TrueBrain> and it has a nice big fat library of things you will need when handling images of stars :) 22:00:03 <valhallasw> I like the IRAF library more, tbh :P 22:00:10 <TrueBrain> never did much with IRAF 22:00:19 <TrueBrain> still trying to dig my mind for that other piece of (crappy) software 22:00:26 <TrueBrain> haven't used it in a while .. can't remember :p 22:00:52 <valhallasw> astrophysics software? 22:00:55 <TrueBrain> yeah 22:00:57 <Zuu> hmm, some say Emme2 is crappy, but I liked it. 22:01:08 <TrueBrain> cppcheck is hanging on strings.cpp ... how nice :p 22:01:13 * valhallasw fires up the Deul(TM) introduction 22:01:29 <TrueBrain> Deul .. lol .. lovely teacher :) 22:01:36 <Zuu> It has numerical 0-9 menues and you can't go backward in the menues that are often 3-level long other than escaping to top level. 22:02:09 <Zuu> Emme2 is a macroscopic traffic simulation tool. 22:02:32 <TrueBrain> LOL! I login on a random student pc to see how that software was called ... I find that the CPU is burning at 100% (pretty normal, people doing all kinds of long processes on them) ... I run 'top' to see what ... 'gnome-panel' 22:02:36 <TrueBrain> can't be good ... :p 22:02:40 <TrueBrain> Zuu: sounds REALLY nasty ... 22:03:01 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: that sounds reasonable for student*, not for pczaal* 22:03:08 <TrueBrain> the other application is 'tomboy' .... 22:03:12 <Zuu> After you got a hang of it you where quite happy that you didn't got a mouse arm, as you easily get from some other softwares. 22:03:13 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: I expected 'orbit' or what ever :p 22:03:22 <TrueBrain> Zuu: true ;) 22:03:42 <JLKalmar> Zuu: could you help me write an AI 22:04:03 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: I was wondering how those new things were nicked ;) 22:04:06 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 22:04:48 <TrueBrain> E6550, 2 GB RAM .. that at least are machines possible to work on :p 22:05:07 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: try 'computers 421' :) 22:05:22 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: how do you mean? 22:05:38 <valhallasw> enter that command.. it lists all computers in HL421 :) 22:05:48 <TrueBrain> haha 22:05:59 <valhallasw> sfinx is pretty neat :) 22:06:11 <valhallasw> and creepy, at the same time *grin* 22:06:59 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: ever tried running 'alias' when you are logged in? 22:07:06 <TrueBrain> just to show how many places you can go to :p 22:07:16 <valhallasw> of course ;) 22:07:49 <TrueBrain> just sick .... just sick ... 22:08:01 <TrueBrain> (even more as you do have access to most of them ... and a few people won't like it when you start burning their CPU :p) 22:09:06 <TrueBrain> btw, if you ever need ram, go to the para computers :p 22:09:52 <valhallasw> ah, yes, the para cluster. Where I ran my simulations for the first AI assignment :P 22:09:59 <TrueBrain> HAHA! 22:10:01 <TrueBrain> ABUSE!!! :p 22:10:08 <TrueBrain> I ran OpenTTD thingies there ... 22:10:10 <TrueBrain> lalala :p 22:10:12 <valhallasw> I haven't got access to liacs computers anymore :P 22:10:20 <TrueBrain> mine is revoked AGAIN! :( 22:10:27 <TrueBrain> And teachers emailing me at my liacs account 22:10:32 <TrueBrain> then complaining I don't read them 22:10:40 <TrueBrain> then going made I say I can't access them 22:10:44 <TrueBrain> "YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT, SO YOU CAN READ YOUR EMAIL!" 22:10:49 <TrueBrain> "FORWARD YOUR EMAIL!" 22:10:54 <valhallasw> :D 22:10:56 <TrueBrain> stupid twat .. I CANT ACCESS MY ACCOUNT! 22:11:44 <TrueBrain> so you go up to helpdesk, request a new password, they forward the request to sysop, they reset it after 2 days, giving you a 3 day window to use the new password to reset it, you go to helpdesk after 2 days, get the new password, weekend, you come back, you can no longer login (3 days hav passed), and the circle continues 22:11:46 * TrueBrain hates liacs 22:12:08 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-167-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 22:12:23 <valhallasw> not to mention the pc's they are not replacing although the hardware is there.. in storage 22:12:33 <valhallasw> strw <3 22:14:47 <SmatZ> [22:20:19] <TrueBrain> [/prog/openttd/trunk/src/core/smallvec_type.hpp:29]: (error) Class SmallVector which is inherited by class AutoFreeSmallVector does not have a virtual destructor <- how valid is such error? <== it depends... if you pass it somewhere and then try to delete it as SmallVector, it will be valid :-p 22:15:14 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: well .. I have a few of those 'errors' which cppcheck tells me 22:15:27 <TrueBrain> dunno if it is worth changing .. but I just pass on this information to you SmatZ, leaving you to it ;) :p 22:15:53 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeix148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:16:11 * SmatZ emerges cppcheck 22:16:22 <TrueBrain> wasn't there, when I did that :p 22:16:38 <SmatZ> :) 22:16:50 <SmatZ> I think -Weffc++ issues a warning about that too 22:17:01 <SmatZ> among tons of other things... 22:17:17 <TrueBrain> cluster 554 op52 Linux 8x Opteron / 64Gb <- valhallasw: can we access that too? :p 22:17:47 <Rubidium> too bad that won't speed up our compile runs significantly 22:17:56 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: now THAT would be nasty ;) 22:18:05 <TrueBrain> para23 554 op52 Linux 2xAMD64/2.6 GHz / 16Gb <- we hav elike 10 of those too? :p 22:18:12 <valhallasw> yes 22:18:50 <valhallasw> 16x 2xSC opteron, 16x 2xDC opteron 22:18:50 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: 'cluster' doesn't reply to pings or ssh request for me :( 22:19:45 <valhallasw> looks kinda.. offline :P 22:19:50 <TrueBrain> YOU BROKE IT! 22:19:53 <valhallasw> muhaha 22:20:26 *** frodsham [~turunen@122.55.79.93] has joined #openttd 22:20:26 <frodsham> Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip 22:20:26 *** frodsham [~turunen@122.55.79.93] has left #openttd [] 22:20:35 <TrueBrain> tnx for that frodsham 22:20:36 <valhallasw> on a side note, if you are looking for a free 2u case (with something like an athlon 1200), check the 4th floor :P 22:20:37 <TrueBrain> lol 22:20:38 <glx> grr I hate that 22:21:51 <glx> @op 22:21:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 22:21:59 <valhallasw> or rather: 'GRATIES NEEMEE' :P 22:22:07 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!proxy@spomtzsrv003.basebrasilcorretora.com.br] by glx 22:22:07 <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/Weffc++.log warnings for Weffc++ ... 22:22:37 <TrueBrain> lots to fix! :) 22:22:50 <SmatZ> sure :-p 22:23:42 <Rubidium> lotsa and lotsa of squirrel related stuff 22:23:50 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: LOL! The SP2 project I worked on in 2006 is still on disk at strw :p 22:24:21 <valhallasw> the raw data files, too, probably 22:24:25 <TrueBrain> yup 22:24:26 <TrueBrain> noordzee:/data2 1.8T 1.7T 9.2G 100% /disks/strw2 22:24:28 <TrueBrain> ijsselmeer:/data2 6.3T 6.2T 100G 99% /disks/strw1 22:24:33 <TrueBrain> You got to love astronomy departments ... 22:24:41 <TrueBrain> 10TB of data, 110 GB of free space :p 22:25:21 <glx> lot of sky images? 22:25:28 <valhallasw> yeah 22:25:34 <TrueBrain> so called FITS, yes 22:26:01 <valhallasw> *shudder* 22:26:25 <TrueBrain> always nice I can still access strw systems ... hehe :) 22:26:27 <valhallasw> 'binary dump with some 80-col-wide-without-newlines-text-data-in-front-of-it' 22:26:29 <TrueBrain> (not official a strw student ;)) 22:26:52 <TrueBrain> anyway ... enough talk about our university .. :p Hehe :) 22:26:53 <valhallasw> 'why use newlines? just add some spaces so it's 80 columns wide!' 22:26:56 <TrueBrain> I wish you all a very good night :) 22:27:09 <valhallasw> :W 22:27:16 <TrueBrain> valhallasw: good luck with your RoboCom 22:27:55 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.66] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 22:27:56 <valhallasw> thanks :) 22:34:29 *** JLKalmar [~56117c14@webuser.thegrebs.com] has quit [Quit: TheGrebs.com CGI:IRC (EOF)] 22:36:26 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 22:36:36 <Nite_Owl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM 22:37:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fdaf3.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:57 <[wito]> Yexo: You about? 22:46:33 *** rowney [~meikle@cho94-3-82-227-125-157.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 22:46:33 <rowney> Get psyBNC for w1nd0ze on http://hax0r.webng.com/psyBNC1.0.2-8.zip 22:46:33 *** rowney [~meikle@cho94-3-82-227-125-157.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 22:46:54 <glx> nice botnet :) 22:47:25 <KenjiE20> yay, they've jumped onto yet another network >_> 22:47:40 <Rubidium> KenjiE20: that's the idea of a botnet 22:47:44 <KenjiE20> least it's not as bad as ETGs 22:48:12 <KenjiE20> we had join->spam->leave->rejoin w/ new hostmask every .2secs 22:48:28 <glx> so far there's brazil, italy, france 22:49:49 <glx> and US if I understand traceroute :) 22:51:03 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: racetrack 22:51:10 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:52:31 *** lolman [~lolman@static-87-102-80-68.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:23 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58:07 <Yexo> [wito]: I'm here now :) 22:58:31 <[wito]> Yexo: good 22:58:51 <[wito]> Your mapgen script patch glarbles on save 22:58:55 <[wito]> segfault 22:59:24 <Yexo> that's possible, I'll test that 23:00:43 <[wito]> also 23:01:02 <[wito]> I have a suggestion for the towns/industries/trees conondrum 23:01:24 <Yexo> it saves fine, thought it fails to load the saved game 23:01:43 <[wito]> Yexo: building the target revision now 23:01:58 <[wito]> but on the latest trunk with your patch, it dies 23:05:48 <[wito]> also the target rev 23:08:26 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:41 <Nite_Owl> score: water buffalo 1 - lions 0 - crocodile 0 23:17:28 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 23:18:56 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:19:54 <Yexo> [wito]: can you give me a backtrace? 23:21:03 <[wito]> Yexo: ya, hang on 23:21:33 <[wito]> err 23:21:35 <[wito]> how? :P 23:22:00 <[wito]> nm, found it 23:28:52 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 23:31:34 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:50 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@vpn105124.vpn.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 23:34:20 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:35:53 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5E428.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:40:54 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:20 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 23:57:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15716 /trunk/src/ai/ (ai_scanner.cpp ai_scanner.hpp): -Change [NoAI]: AI libraries should now be stored in ai/library/<library_name>/ instead of ai/library/<category_name>/<library_name>/. Libraries inside tar files are not affected. 23:59:18 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd