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00:03:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15717 /trunk/src/table/ (11 files): -Cleanup: apply some documentation coding style upon the stuff in table/ 00:12:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80039.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:54 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8103D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:13:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 00:29:59 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-71fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:51 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 00:32:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15718 /trunk/src/ (130 files in 14 dirs): -Cleanup: apply some comment coding style on the rest of the sources too 00:32:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15719 /trunk/ (readme.txt src/misc_gui.cpp): -Update: the credit section. 00:33:00 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:33:21 * planetmaker hands Rubidium a new bucket of clean-up water 00:38:40 <Rubidium> why would I need that? 00:38:58 <Rubidium> my Roomba needs new batteries though 00:39:20 <planetmaker> Rubidium: with all the cleaning up you do it must be pretty dirty by now ;) 00:40:23 <SmatZ> hehe 00:41:32 *** OsteHovel^EEE [~OsteHovel@084202129118.customer.alfanett.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B84E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42:08 <planetmaker> and I think I'll need a cup of sleep now. So have a good night :) 00:42:15 * planetmaker waves 00:42:50 <SmatZ> good night, planetmaker :) 00:43:12 <Nite_Owl> later planetmaker 00:49:15 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:59 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:25:43 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:44 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:39:01 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:46:05 <Felicitus> do we have someone here who knows about ATM? 01:47:03 <Sacro> what about them? 01:47:40 <Felicitus> the ATM protocol, not the machines 01:50:16 <Rubidium> I know about it ;) 01:50:56 <Felicitus> Rubidium: i only have nearly zero knowledge of ATM, but as far as I understood: it isnt possible to interconnect 2 ATM UNI switches, right? that would only work with NNI? 01:52:39 <Rubidium> that I've got no clue about; as I said, I know about ATM ;) 01:53:14 <Felicitus> ATM protocol? 01:53:53 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has left #openttd [] 01:55:28 <Rubidium> yup 01:55:53 <Rubidium> one frame is if I recall correctly 574 bytes ;) 01:55:58 <Felicitus> yep 01:56:07 <Felicitus> thats what you find everywhere when you google about it 01:56:18 <Rubidium> true 01:56:38 <Felicitus> but it seems that there are two implementations: UNI for connecting end points to a switch and NNI for interconnecting switches, but i have no clue if that information is current 01:56:58 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:58:27 <Felicitus> and i cant find any manual on the web for the newbridge vivid yellow ridge :( 01:58:59 <Felicitus> and wtf does "ILMI" mean 02:00:17 <Rubidium> my book with something about wireless ATM doesn't mention NNI nor ILMI 02:00:25 <Felicitus> yeah most sites dont 02:00:52 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:01:04 <Rubidium> ILMI == Integrated Local Management Interface 02:01:13 <Felicitus> yes, i found that also, but what does it do 02:01:38 <Rubidium> it's ATM's SNMP 02:02:04 <Felicitus> hmm, does it exchange ATM addresses somehow? 02:02:21 <Rubidium> looks like it 02:02:42 <Rubidium> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2602 02:03:37 <Felicitus> well both switches have a link, but i'm not sure if they are connected 02:10:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-20-28-97.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:13:51 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@vpn105124.vpn.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:15:17 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 02:23:38 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 02:30:37 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest52 02:30:39 *** DaleStan 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an archive 03:39:59 <spasm_> yes 03:40:10 <glx> you need to install libicu 03:40:16 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 03:40:26 <spasm_> that'll be in the package manager, yes? 03:40:40 <glx> theorically yes 03:40:58 <spasm_> so, theoretically, if I install that, it should work? 03:41:03 <glx> yes 03:41:21 <spasm_> theoretically speaking, I found it 03:41:46 <glx> if 0.6.3 worked, then 0.7.0 will (libicu is the only added dependency) 03:41:52 <spasm_> oh, ok 03:42:54 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:44:38 <spasm_> I still get the same error 03:45:25 <glx> hmm maybe you have a different version 03:45:41 <spasm_> openttd-0.7.0-beta2-linux-generic-i686 03:46:01 <glx> I mean a different libicu version :) 03:46:12 <spasm_> oh, my bad 03:46:26 <spasm_> which do I need 03:46:28 <spasm_> ? 03:47:37 <glx> looking at the lib name I think it's 3.8 03:49:13 *** spasm_1 [~spasm@C-59-101-226-250.bur.connect.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:49:20 <spasm_1> sorry bout that 03:49:30 <spasm_1> internet dropped out :S 03:49:51 <glx> [04:47:39] <@glx> looking at the lib name I think it's 3.8 03:50:02 <glx> (just in case you didn't got this line) 03:50:13 <spasm_1> yeah, i missed that 03:50:29 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:51:42 <spasm_1> i just got 4.0-7.1 03:51:47 <spasm_1> It should work 03:51:59 <spasm_1> or will i need the old one? 03:52:03 <glx> 4.0 is not 3.8 03:52:16 <spasm_1> I would have assumed it was backwards compatible 03:53:53 <glx> maybe a symbolic link could work 03:54:30 *** spasm_ [~spasm@121.83.99.122.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54:47 <spasm_1> How do I do that? 03:55:55 <glx> in /usr/local/lib, ls libicu* 03:56:25 <glx> I think it will show libicui18n.so.40 03:57:02 <spasm_1> ls: cannot access libicu*: No such file or directory 03:57:16 <glx> and in /usr/lib ? 03:57:51 <spasm_1> yes, libicui18n.so.40 03:59:08 <glx> ln -s libicui18n.so.40 libicui18n.so.38 03:59:31 <glx> that will create a symbolic link and may solve your problem 03:59:40 <spasm_1> ok 04:00:21 <spasm_1> ./openttd: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.38: 04:00:22 <spasm_1> Im gonna need to do it for all of em, arnt I 04:00:37 <glx> indeed :) 04:01:03 <spasm_1> 1 by 1? 04:01:05 <spasm_1> damn 04:01:10 <spasm_1> alrighty 04:02:28 <glx> only i18n, uc and data 04:02:57 <spasm_1> It opened the window, then dies with this: 04:02:59 <spasm_1> ./openttd: symbol lookup error: ./openttd: undefined symbol: ubidi_openSized_3_8 04:03:12 <glx> stupid library :) 04:03:23 <glx> it hardcode version it seems 04:03:42 <spasm_1> so, i need the old version 04:03:43 <spasm_1> grrr 04:03:46 <glx> so the only way seems to compile openttd yourself 04:03:52 <spasm_1> ok 04:03:57 <spasm_1> thats what I was gonna try any ways 04:04:01 <spasm_1> thanks for your help 04:04:26 <glx> remove the links you created (as they don't work) 04:04:52 <spasm_1> yep 04:06:59 <glx> you'll need zlib-dev, libpng-dev, libicu-dev, sdl-dev, freetype-dev 04:07:19 <spasm_1> I might already have some of them... 04:09:23 <spasm_1> freetype2? 04:09:27 <glx> yes 04:09:38 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: RS-SM] 04:10:02 <spasm_1> ok 04:10:16 <glx> hmm and fontconfig too 04:10:55 <spasm_1> yep 04:11:14 <glx> if you have makedepend it's good too (speed up compilation) 04:11:42 <spasm_1> yeah, Ive got that 04:14:11 <glx> once you have the libs, it's the usual stuff :) 04:14:19 <glx> ./configure && make 04:15:31 <spasm_1> yep 04:15:38 <spasm_1> thanks again 04:24:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.210.202] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 04:34:19 *** michi_cc [c549059256@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:50:13 *** spasm_1 [~spasm@C-59-101-226-250.bur.connect.net.au] has left #openttd [] 04:56:54 *** glx 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It's raining! 11:00:04 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 11:00:16 <pavel1269> hi 11:04:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:04:57 <petern> it's sunny here 11:05:10 <petern> have been recovering strawberry plants 11:06:42 <pavel1269> whats current status on 8bpp replacement project? 11:07:09 <pavel1269> i see, one big package ... and that i cant use just lets say terran and no other :-/ 11:07:10 <petern> opengfx? 11:07:13 <pavel1269> y 11:07:13 <Rubidium> unfinished and dead in the water? 11:07:20 <pavel1269> thats pitty 11:07:26 <petern> is opengfx dead? 11:07:44 <pavel1269> terrain except water is nice, also some industries looked good 11:09:55 <Rubidium> petern: 22-1 last release, 4 sprites (1 vehicle) drawn since then 11:10:00 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:10:41 <petern> crap 11:10:51 <petern> don't have enough memory rigssofrods with -j 8 11:11:06 <Rubidium> they're all working on FIRS or something else 11:11:28 <pavel1269> whats FIRS? 11:13:01 *** wision [1009@193.19.177.35] has joined #openttd 11:14:19 <Rubidium> some industry replacement stuff 11:16:32 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-91-122.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:16:36 <petern> as they are free to do :D 11:16:44 <petern> pikka :D 11:16:50 <Pikka> bonjour! 11:27:22 <Alberth> what's the policy about adding methods to assist debugging? Are such methods welcome in trunk? 11:32:04 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:52:48 <Rubidium> Alberth: guess that's a case-by-case decision 11:55:36 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-124-187-91-122.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 11:57:53 <Belugas> [07:06] <@petern> have been recovering strawberry plants <--- booo... good fo you. our plants are still under a few cm of white (used to be white) stuff 12:03:35 <petern> still snow? :o 12:03:51 <Rubidium> guess so as it's still freezing in Quebec 12:04:12 <petern> evil 12:12:07 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177229238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:02 *** michi_cc [c4d166b35a@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 12:28:10 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has joined #openttd 12:36:55 <petern> hmm 12:37:07 <petern> 'Select upgrades' appears to be selecting things which I do not have installed. 12:38:19 <Rubidium> different grfs with the same grfid? 12:39:51 <petern> hmm 12:39:52 <eQualizer> I think I found a bug. There's a submarine on my airport. 12:41:12 <Alberth> eQualizer: that happens without any NewGRF's loaded? 12:41:19 <eQualizer> Yes 12:41:24 <wision> probably just loading some passengers.. 12:41:34 <Rubidium> and without any fancy patches applied? 12:41:41 <eQualizer> I think I first saw that submarine yesterday, but it was cruising around in water. 12:41:57 <eQualizer> And now it's landed. Under my airfield. 12:42:12 <petern> the disaster submarine :D 12:42:12 <Rubidium> are you sure it's a submarine? 12:42:35 <eQualizer> 0.7.0 beta2, nothing applied. Except AdmiralAI. 12:43:01 <eQualizer> Oh, now it disappeared. :( 12:43:46 <wision> sure.. fully loaded, it's heading to another stop 12:44:08 <Rubidium> eQualizer: what year are you in? 12:44:16 <eQualizer> Amt 1994 12:44:19 <eQualizer> atm* 12:44:59 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has joined #openttd 12:45:36 <Alberth> eQualizer: assuming it is a plane, you can open your plane list, and check each of them 12:46:40 <Rubidium> eQualizer: can you make a screenshot? 12:46:46 <eQualizer> It wasn't a plane. I found it when I destroid the airfield, and build bigger on top of it. The submarine didn't have any effect no destroying the airfield, or building a new one on top of it. 12:48:38 <Alberth> eQualizer: you can try loading the last savegame 12:48:45 <eQualizer> Got it 12:48:50 <eQualizer> ...on screenshot. 12:50:29 <eQualizer> http://xs137.xs.to/xs137/09110/openttd070beta2submarinebug809.png 12:51:17 <Rubidium> did you recently raise land there? 12:51:32 <eQualizer> No. But AI might have. 12:51:51 <eQualizer> But I couldn't say for sure by looking autosaves. 12:52:07 <Gekz> Chinese characters! 12:52:31 <Gekz> or Japanese. 12:52:34 <SmatZ> eQualizer: known for very long time 12:52:41 <SmatZ> most likely since TTD 12:52:44 <eQualizer> Gekz: Japanese 12:53:01 <petern> probably not raised, with all the trees... 12:53:07 <petern> unless it was there a long time, heh 12:53:31 <SmatZ> petern: it could have been there for ages, unnoticed :) 12:53:52 <Gekz> oh lol a submarine! 12:54:01 <Gekz> I see it 12:54:07 <Gekz> lol wtf 12:54:25 <Gekz> so there is a submarine in TTD 12:54:34 <Gekz> and it is now landed by some form of voodoo magic 12:55:00 <SmatZ> petern: ignore my last statement about "long living" submarines... 12:56:51 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-210-42.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:10:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.201.199] has joined #openttd 13:10:42 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@g224064202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:11:32 *** welshdragon is now known as yorksirewelshdrgaon 13:11:58 *** yorksirewelshdrgaon is now known as yorkshirewelshdragib 13:12:29 *** yorkshirewelshdragib is now known as yorkshirewelshdragon 13:15:43 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.195.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:50 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has joined #openttd 13:19:13 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 13:19:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3e1e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:12 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:12 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 13:31:48 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:31:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:33:09 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:33 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj153.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:37:04 *** Yeggstry [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 14:00:14 <[wito]> eQualizer: what font are you using? 14:01:42 <eQualizer> osaka.dfont (I'm on Mac) 14:02:30 <[wito]> ooh, it's nice 14:04:02 *** avdg [~avdg@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:04:28 *** avdg [~avdg@78-21-56-40.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 14:04:38 <eQualizer> Almost nice. I can't read smallest font. And some kanjis look a bit wrong on medium (I've found one where two different lines morphs into one). 14:06:04 <glx> did you change font size? 14:06:23 <eQualizer> How do I do that? 14:06:25 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:30 <glx> in openttd.cfg 14:06:46 <eQualizer> Oh! 14:06:54 <eQualizer> I totallhy missed those lines. 14:07:12 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:07:25 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:08:24 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 14:09:10 *** Aali_ is now known as Aali 14:11:38 *** lolman [~lolman@87.102.80.68] has joined #openttd 14:12:04 <[wito]> did we ever get that font interface? 14:18:33 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 14:22:47 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15720 /trunk/src/win32.cpp: -Change: put a bit more information into the crash log 14:30:22 <petern> date of birth, blood type, credit card number? 14:32:42 <Rubidium> no, only credit card number and expiration date 14:33:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15721 /trunk/src/ai/ai_info_dummy.cpp: -Change: give a more useful (for 'normal' users) error message when there's no AI and they want to play with an AI 14:35:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15722 /trunk/readme.txt: -Change: add a bit more information to the readme. 14:35:56 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj153.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:36:39 <planetmaker> Rubidium: "Ctrl makes much commands more powerful" <-- ...many commands... 14:36:43 <planetmaker> They're countable. 14:36:51 <Rubidium> they are countable! 14:36:59 <Rubidium> ;) 14:37:03 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.19.219.170] has joined #openttd 14:37:04 <planetmaker> hehe :) 14:37:22 <insulfrog> hi 14:38:11 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 14:40:12 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has joined #openttd 14:42:41 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 14:42:54 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 14:43:45 *** yorkshirewelshdragon is now known as welshdagon 14:43:56 *** welshdagon is now known as welshdragon 14:47:33 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:41 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-140-240.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:49:59 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 14:51:44 <Rubidium> Alberth: do you have by any chance a diff with all hierarchical widget stuff in it? (so I don't have to download 15 or so diffs?) 14:53:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-210-42.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:37 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 14:53:52 <Alberth> Rubidium: I have a patch queue. You want the queue or everything in a single diff? 14:54:27 <Rubidium> a single diff would be fine at this moment 14:59:52 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:10 <Alberth> Rubidium: http://g.imagehost.org/download/0172/nested_widgets_src_r15719_patch just the src sub-dir (ie exclusive the document sources) 15:01:51 <Alberth> Hmm, the .gz extension gets chopped off in the URL 15:02:16 <Alberth> s/exclusive/excluding/ 15:02:48 <energetic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImfkfZZga48 15:03:02 <Alberth> it is quite messy due to the WindowDesc constructor change (03 patch) 15:03:39 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 15:03:58 * petern reads the pdf 15:08:48 <Alberth> Rubidium: Interesting files: http://paste.openttd.org/180491 15:10:39 <Alberth> petern: the pdf is a nice introduction 15:10:42 <Rubidium> going to cherry pick a bit from the big diff I reckon ;) 15:10:53 <petern> can this be done incrementally 15:10:58 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11:00 <petern> like the migrated to window classes was? 15:11:17 <Alberth> that is the idea currently. 15:11:26 <Rubidium> petern: that's the idea 15:11:38 <petern> cool 15:11:48 <glx> where's the pdf? 15:11:52 <Alberth> This introduces NestedWidget trees by extending the WindowDesc 15:11:57 <Alberth> FS#1905 15:12:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15723 /trunk/src/ (44 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: use a constructor for WindowDescs as that makes expanding them much easier (Alberth) 15:13:07 <Alberth> or here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42222 15:13:45 <SmatZ> hmm @ not using initialiser list 15:14:03 <SmatZ> why inheriting from ZeroedMemoryAllocator? 15:14:26 <Alberth> everything nicely zeroed before init 15:14:38 <SmatZ> and then overwritten to valid values? 15:15:00 <Alberth> yes (quite often 0 :) ) 15:15:23 <Alberth> oh, that's for nestedwidgets, not for WindowDesc. Sorry 15:15:47 <SmatZ> ah well, if it's future-proof :) 15:17:29 <jpm> hi 15:17:34 <Alberth> hi jpm 15:17:59 * glx likes the idea :) 15:18:37 <jpm> I got problem while checking out source code from svn://sv.openttd.org/trunk 15:18:45 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 15:19:10 <Alberth> you mean "svn.openttd.org" 15:19:14 <jpm> I meant svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk 15:19:57 <jpm> Can't connect to host... 15:19:58 <Rubidium> jpm: works for me 15:20:28 *** KenjiE20|SSH [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has joined #openttd 15:20:29 <Alberth> jpm: for me too 15:20:34 <jpm> hmm... 15:20:41 <wision> jpm: for me too 15:20:44 <[wito]> ditto 15:20:51 <SmatZ> works here 15:21:19 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggs-away 15:21:22 <[wito]> Might just be you, jpm 15:22:08 *** KenjiE20|SSH [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has quit [] 15:22:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15724 /trunk/src/ (group_gui.cpp network/network_gui.cpp): -Codechange: some widget documentation/fixing of enumified constant names (Alberth) 15:23:03 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:23:23 <Alberth> you're pulling that from #2732, don't you? 15:23:27 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:23:41 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/nested.diff <- updated version of Alberth's diff 15:23:49 <Rubidium> 2732? Not really 15:24:04 <jpm> now its working on my linux box... 15:24:27 <Rubidium> I extracted it from 'the big diff' 15:24:56 <jpm> but it did take long wait before started transfering files.. 15:25:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15725 /trunk/src/ (8 files): -Fix: centering on a vehicle didn't respect its z coordinate 15:25:45 <jpm> Maybe thats why tortoise client timed out... 15:26:37 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-228-38.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:27:21 <Alberth> jpm: it is probably not waiting bu instead busy exchanging info about files to download. trunk is quite big the first time. 15:28:41 <Alberth> s/bu/but/ 15:28:44 <jpm> But why Tortoise Client would close connection if its receiving some information 15:29:20 <Alberth> no idea, I always use svn directly from the command line. Much easier to understand what happens. 15:44:35 <jpm> tortoise client is useful when applying patches but it has weaknesses also... 15:45:02 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 15:45:34 <jpm> I downloaded binaries to use svn from command-line and got ottd source now.. thanks for help 15:50:52 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet569.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:52:19 *** Darcon [~abc@80.101.95.48] has joined #openttd 15:56:48 *** bolen [~nabeel@c-75-75-181-24.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:49 *** bolen [~nabeel@c-75-75-181-24.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 16:02:00 *** probert [proxy@201.14.179.42] has joined #openttd 16:02:00 *** probert [proxy@201.14.179.42] has left #openttd [] 16:04:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15726 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: unify coding style for const pointers 16:06:09 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 16:11:01 *** Yeggs-away is now known as Yeggstry 16:17:34 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet569.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:17:47 <insulfrog> goota go 16:17:48 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.19.219.170] has left #openttd [] 16:19:40 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet569.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [] 16:19:59 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@resnet569.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:20:17 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:22:32 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0360e.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: brb] 16:24:41 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet569.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:27:49 *** DJNekkid_ [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r15727 /trunk/src/ (namegen.cpp saveload/oldloader_sl.cpp table/namegen.h): 16:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: apply coding style to namegen arrays 16:31:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r1307): missing comma in _name_original_english_4 16:34:06 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-210-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:34:34 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:39 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:05 *** el_en [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 16:36:00 *** Darcon [~abc@80.101.95.48] has quit [] 16:39:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-140-240.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:46 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 16:42:53 *** const86 [~const@tower.mimas.ru] has joined #openttd 16:47:45 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 16:47:48 <petern> 1307 :o 16:49:24 * petern ponders the affect 16:50:43 <petern> massive 16:51:06 <petern> flentfingford is not flenfingford 16:51:12 <petern> bundworth is bunworth 16:51:25 <petern> overtfingford is overfingford 16:51:37 <petern> brendingstone is brendston 16:51:59 <petern> pinhill is now pinthill 16:52:11 <petern> invedwood is invewood 16:52:20 <petern> heh 16:52:36 <petern> pudingstone to pudstone 16:53:06 <petern> okay that's enough :p 16:57:46 <Noldo> wwhat? 16:59:39 <SmatZ> petern: impressive 17:03:54 <petern> SmatZ, do you fancy applying code style to namegen too? ;) 17:05:15 <SmatZ> petern: I can try :) 17:08:58 *** lstor [~lstor@sos1-1x-dhcp178.studby.uio.no] has quit [Quit: Rebooting] 17:10:59 <el_en> what²? 17:11:44 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:20:50 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:22:51 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: energetic] 17:24:38 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj153.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:26:54 <wision> is it possible to control the output in the console of dedicated server? i'd liketo get rid of that "dbg: [net] [udp] queried from .." spam 17:28:38 <SmatZ> wision: bin/openttd -D -d 0 ... or so 17:28:52 <SmatZ> just set debug level for net to 0 17:29:42 <Ammler> or 2>/dev/null 17:29:42 <petern> or 1 17:29:55 <petern> don't do that 17:30:08 <SmatZ> hehe 17:30:33 <wision> thanks SmatZ 17:30:55 <SmatZ> you are welcome, wision 17:32:08 <Ammler> petern: it is, but why? 17:32:19 <petern> "it is" ? 17:33:08 <Ammler> we use also debug level 0 but why is pipe to null bad? 17:33:23 <petern> because then you won't see other messages 17:33:30 <petern> like crashes 17:33:46 <petern> or "server shutdown cos ammler requested me to do it, dihedral" 17:35:13 *** energetic [~opera@ip82-139-119-221.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 17:35:19 <Ammler> ok, obvious, thought something more hidden :-) 17:35:49 <petern> it should be a last resort thing 17:36:20 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 17:36:25 *** taknil [~taknil@p4FC089B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:36:47 <wision> setting debug_level is good enough for me :) 17:37:05 <petern> be nice if it didn't spout that crap by default :o 17:37:08 <taknil> Hello everyone Openttd-IRC newfag here 17:38:27 <planetmaker> hi 17:40:26 <taknil> I wanted to update my current stable 0.6.3 to the .7beta2 on my mac, but i can't recall how i installed it in the first place. Thought there was a wizzard with the stable but the beta is not, is it? 17:41:39 <planetmaker> Just get the zip from the website and unpack it into a directory of your choice 17:42:26 <planetmaker> This assumes that you have your base graphics (the one from TTD) in ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data 17:42:48 <taknil> okay, thx, let me check that... 17:42:54 <Alberth> best results are obtained when the directory is also accessible from the mac 17:43:09 <planetmaker> Alberth: that's the one on Mac 17:43:17 <planetmaker> the global one 17:43:31 <SmatZ> funny 17:43:41 <planetmaker> I never created it, so OpenTTD creates it somewhat automatically :) 17:43:49 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:44:01 <SmatZ> OTTD hangs when "Many random towns" is used in SE with certain "Town name language" settings 17:44:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:44:07 <SmatZ> and nobody reported it so far... 17:44:20 <SmatZ> ah well, it doesn't hang :-p 17:44:28 <SmatZ> just takes very long time :) 17:44:30 <planetmaker> People don't play with Ruhrpott - type maps :P 17:44:46 <SmatZ> :) 17:44:53 * planetmaker thinks that SmatZ is a bit unpatient? ;) 17:45:00 <SmatZ> hehe :) 17:45:14 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:46:20 <SmatZ> ~40secs looks deadlocked for me ;) 17:46:54 <petern> impatient 17:47:13 <planetmaker> he... feature: add progress bar or rotating thingy indicating "I'm working hard, just don't be hard on my now" 17:47:16 <SmatZ> ok :-D 17:47:46 <SmatZ> planetmaker: but then how do you distinguish endless loop? :) 17:48:32 <planetmaker> :) Maybe determine how many loop iterations were needed, add a factor of 10 for safety and adopt progress bar accordingly 17:48:39 <planetmaker> more frequently, more small-scale 17:48:59 <planetmaker> But changing that is nasty, not very fruitful work, I think 17:49:05 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:49:33 <SmatZ> second thread could be used for that, is with the Generating world progressbar, but it would be pain 17:50:01 <planetmaker> yeah, something like that :). Yes, not fruitful, but painful :P 17:50:33 <SmatZ> :) 17:50:43 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has joined #openttd 17:52:55 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.48.180] has joined #openttd 17:53:04 <Chrill> hallo 17:53:11 <SmatZ> hello Chrill 17:53:26 <Chrill> I am trying to get TBRS compatible with TTRS roads, is this doable? Failed to find parameters 17:53:32 <energetic> I have a calculation using only uint types, with division and multiplication. D I need to use a float type here, or can i fullfill the job with uints only? result should be a uint, too. 17:54:38 <Chrill> Or any bridge set for that matter, compatible with TTRS roads?? 17:54:43 <planetmaker> energetic: add a constant factor (e.g. 2^8), do the calculation and then divide the result by 2^8 again, forgetting the final fractional digits 17:55:01 <SmatZ> energetic: it depends... for example on the range of numbers :) but if you can, do multiplications first, then divisions... but it really depends on the case (it can overflow and such) 17:55:05 <planetmaker> Chrill: ttrs can be configured to not use its own bridges or to use them. 17:55:31 <Chrill> I know, but in this case, it gives me the regular road markings on roads 17:55:53 <energetic> http://pastebin.com/m130f082b 17:55:55 <planetmaker> yep. You could use default bridges :P 17:55:57 <Chrill> I'm using parameters 1 0 1 0 for TTRS 17:56:06 <Chrill> I want to use the TBRS bridges with TTRS roads on it 17:56:10 <Chrill> Is this doable? :P 17:56:29 <planetmaker> afaik not without sprite editing 17:56:40 <SmatZ> energetic: " / 256" is much faster than "/ 257" 17:56:43 <Chrill> is there any bridge set which can? 17:56:47 <planetmaker> a bridge set must be made support a road type. The bridge road sprites must be included in the bridge set itself. 17:56:54 <Chrill> Yes, I know 17:57:08 <planetmaker> ok :) Sorry, I've no useful answer for you then :) 17:57:15 <Chrill> Thanks anyway :) 17:57:32 <planetmaker> yw 17:57:45 <energetic> Smatz: the code _was_ 256+1, i think /257 is a tiny bit faster from that perspective ;) 17:58:42 <SmatZ> energetic: II would go with something liket1 = (totalamount * highest_rating * (best_rating1 + winner_bonus * 256)) / (sum_all_ratings + factor * 256); 17:58:42 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-167-190.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:58:57 <SmatZ> if it does the same, I am a bit lost in all those parenthesis :) 17:59:33 <energetic> definitely needs optimization, true. But getting it to work is step one. 17:59:53 <SmatZ> energetic: your compiler will change 256+1 to 257... 18:00:07 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00:19 <SmatZ> and it will probably change /257 to *some_big_number, shift_right 18:02:04 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02:28 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:02:37 <energetic> thanks, this should be enough help 18:03:08 <SmatZ> but *256,/256 is changed to shifts, they are much faster :) 18:03:10 <SmatZ> you are welcome 18:04:03 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 18:04:35 <petern> "much" 18:05:06 <energetic> okay 18:05:07 <SmatZ> significantly? 18:05:15 <petern> depends on the cpu 18:05:44 <energetic> I wonder why I need to use UINT on my own c++ code, and ottd using uint 18:05:50 <SmatZ> true :) 18:06:08 <yorick> it's C, not C++! 18:06:09 <petern> uint is non standard 18:06:41 <petern> "unsigned int" is the correct form 18:06:45 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-177-139.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:07:01 <SmatZ> or just "unsigned" ;) 18:07:56 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:40 *** taknil [~taknil@p4FC089B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: taknil] 18:10:44 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has joined #openttd 18:11:39 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-210-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:39 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 18:14:10 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@84.28.155.110] has joined #openttd 18:14:56 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:08 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.27.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:21 *** trainboy2004 [~trainboy2@84.28.155.110] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 18:26:41 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:29:16 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest196 18:29:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.34.44] has joined #openttd 18:31:42 *** taknil [~taknil@p4FC089B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:33:55 *** Guest196 [~KenjiE20@92.20.22.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:56 *** RS-SM [~RSCN@pool-96-224-227-112.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:42 *** taknil [~taknil@p4FC089B6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 18:52:15 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051166102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:52:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15728 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) 18:52:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-15 18:52:21 18:52:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 7 fixed, 6 changed by SmatZ (13) 18:52:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: danish - 4 fixed by MiR (4) 18:52:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 3 fixed by planetmaker (3) 18:52:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 2 fixed by alyr (2) 18:52:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 2 fixed by fanioz (2) 18:54:05 <petern> hmm 18:54:26 * petern seems to have better ship performance with npf than original 18:54:43 <petern> 110% with original (somehow) 18:54:49 * SmatZ experienced the same 18:55:14 <petern> and 40-70% 18:55:15 <petern> with npf 18:55:56 <energetic> why does t1 = (uint)((float)(totalamount / num_winners) * (float)(highest_rating/257)); gives t1=0? 18:56:16 <energetic> totalamount=10, num winners=1, highest rating say 170 18:56:16 <SmatZ> because (totalamount / num_winners) == 0 18:56:36 <SmatZ> hmm 18:56:38 <wision> (highest_rating/257) == 0 ? 18:56:47 <SmatZ> 170/257 == 0 then ;) 18:56:51 <wision> you need to cast highest_rating 18:56:52 <energetic> :P 18:57:04 <wision> or 257.. 18:58:10 <planetmaker> energetic: if typeof(totalamount) = typeof(num_winners) = int, then the first division may already be zero 18:58:20 <planetmaker> you only cast to float after the division is done 18:58:34 <petern> my chugging game with ~100 ships is running happily on npf 18:59:34 <Rubidium> petern: 10% spent for sound and (auto)saving? 18:59:40 <energetic> sorry: they are all uint 18:59:55 <petern> is sound threaded now? 18:59:56 <planetmaker> energetic: my point 19:00:07 <planetmaker> you need to cast each - or at least the irst 19:00:10 <planetmaker> *first 19:00:15 <energetic> did that, works now 19:00:31 <planetmaker> hehe :) 19:00:49 <petern> so why is original recommended instead of npf? 19:00:58 <petern> and if npf is 'ideal' why can't yapf cope? 19:01:25 <Rubidium> petern: petern alsa makes a thread 19:02:46 <energetic> (for interested people: I am working on the NewCompetition patch --> http://ottd.timohummel.com/wiki/index.php/NewCompetition) 19:04:46 <petern> hmm, gone back up, but not slow 19:06:51 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.48.180] has quit [] 19:08:45 <Ammler> energetic: patch? 19:09:33 <energetic> yes? 19:09:56 <energetic> youmean you want to see ode? 19:09:59 <energetic> *code* 19:10:23 <Ammler> well, not really, I liked to join your server to see how it works :-) 19:10:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B99.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11:07 <energetic> later, first have to fix some weird behaviour in the code 19:11:14 <energetic> but i will update the page later on tonite 19:11:19 <energetic> and setup a server 19:11:29 <energetic> so anyone can test 19:11:54 <Ammler> http://ottd.timohummel.com/wiki/index.php/NewCompetitionTesting <-- here 19:12:31 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82E36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:12:34 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:12:49 <Ammler> you should tell erik, openttd is a transport game, not industry game. 19:12:52 <SmatZ> replace openttd.exe with this version: [link to virus.exe] 19:14:00 <Ammler> energetic: if you "fear" traffic on your server, use tt-forums for... 19:15:04 <yorick> SmatZ: and then need require a new language file :p 19:15:10 <yorick> require* 19:15:24 * Rubidium roflol about #3 19:15:59 <SmatZ> hehehe 19:16:54 <petern> #3? 19:17:02 <petern> oh 19:17:11 <petern> lol 19:35:59 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.6.143] has joined #openttd 19:37:31 <batti5> Hi, i have a HP nx7010 latop bios problem, whare can i find some help?, google-ed the problem but no results 19:37:40 <yorick> certainly not here 19:37:42 <yorick> try freenode 19:38:59 <SmatZ> [20:37:40] <yorick> certainly not here <=== hehe 19:49:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:01:52 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:02:16 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 20:06:32 *** Aitor [~aitor@118.Red-213-97-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:39 *** Aitor [~aitor@118.Red-213-97-221.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 20:09:47 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:50 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-164-49.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [] 20:15:23 <petern> hmm, jaaa shows noise at ~ 44.1 kHZ 20:15:27 <petern> er, KHz 20:15:40 <petern> wonder if that's really there or just cos that's the original sample rate... 20:15:48 <planetmaker> kHz :P 20:20:12 <petern> K or k doesn't matter, but z does ;) 20:21:11 <petern> hmm 20:23:31 <planetmaker> SI is k afaik 20:23:51 <petern> *nod* 20:24:31 <planetmaker> but things only get funny, if people mix up m and M :D 20:24:39 <SmatZ> KiHz is IEC 80000-13:2008 20:24:39 <petern> :D 20:24:44 *** trainmaster [~trainmast@ip5455da72.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:25:26 <SmatZ> @calc 44100 / 1024 20:25:26 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 43.06640625 20:25:31 <glx> planetmaker: b and B are quite common too 20:25:36 <SmatZ> 43,066 KiHz 20:25:39 <planetmaker> indeed. 20:25:48 <petern> what prefix is b/B ? 20:25:54 <planetmaker> byte vs bit 20:26:01 <petern> that's not a prefix 20:26:01 <planetmaker> rather the other way around 20:26:03 <glx> it's a unit 20:26:13 <el_en> petern: KelvinHertz 20:26:14 <planetmaker> yup 20:26:15 <petern> i dunno, computer geeks :o 20:26:30 <SmatZ> :o) 20:26:52 <glx> but using wrong prefix with wrong unit leads to funny results ;) 20:26:54 <planetmaker> el_en: true. But I never encountered that :P 20:27:13 *** trainmaster [~trainmast@ip5455da72.speed.planet.nl] has quit [] 20:27:21 <planetmaker> My favourite unit of measure for distances is still Giga-Angstroem. 20:27:48 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:54 <Rubidium> how many mm is that? 20:27:59 <planetmaker> 100 20:28:54 <planetmaker> quite handy, though it doesn't sound like on first glance :) 20:29:12 <SmatZ> that's so non-SI! 20:29:31 <planetmaker> yup 20:30:11 <SmatZ> how can a physic live in non-SI world? 20:30:18 <planetmaker> but better than something like eV / square yard and fortnight ;) 20:30:29 <planetmaker> but back then it served the purpose to have ... = 42 :P 20:30:59 <SmatZ> do you convert electricity on your bills to MeV? ;-) 20:31:01 <Rubidium> SmatZ: psychic! ;) 20:31:04 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 20:31:08 <SmatZ> Rubidium: makes sense :) 20:31:22 <planetmaker> SmatZ: depends :) Sometimes SI units are just not... handy :) 20:31:40 <planetmaker> But inches, yards and miles are never required :P 20:31:44 <SmatZ> :o) 20:31:46 <planetmaker> nor pounds 20:31:47 <planetmaker> ;) 20:32:12 <planetmaker> Rubidium: that may be a matter of debate :P 20:32:12 <petern> my bank account quite likes pounds 20:32:19 <planetmaker> hehe ^^ 20:32:52 <energetic> #3 indeed needs editing :P 20:35:33 <petern> bah 20:35:45 <petern> **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 1237026280046.592 msecs 20:35:49 <petern> i think that's lying some how 20:36:34 <petern> 39 year overrun? heh 20:40:13 <planetmaker> lol 20:40:31 <planetmaker> would be interesting when the first also version appeared 20:42:56 <frosch123> "yes - people do care about origveh.lng. Before I started this topic there were 99 downloads of origveh.grf from BaNaNaS." <- lol 20:44:23 <planetmaker> he's missing the download all button :P 20:45:04 <Ammler> is it possible to add static newgrfs over gui now? 20:45:09 <frosch123> it had already lots of downloads before it hit the nightly, not to mention the two downloads before the old language was actually removed :) 20:45:27 <frosch123> Ammler: sure, if you volunteer to explain the difference to every user 20:46:24 <petern> sirkoz is a funny chap 20:46:33 <Ammler> long time ago since I used static grfs 20:46:38 <Rubidium> s/funny/annoying/ ? 20:46:39 <Ammler> (as staic) 20:46:52 <petern> funny as in odd 20:47:58 <glx> well it's SirkoZ 20:52:22 <Ammler> does openttd needs to load the newgrf to determine it is static? 20:52:46 <petern> no 20:52:52 <petern> you tell it it's static 20:53:18 <petern> openttd tests if it is suitable 20:53:37 <Ammler> I pasted the whole cfg template of our pack and started openttd, the grfs which are there after exit are static 20:54:00 <petern> no 20:54:18 <petern> the non-static *safe* grfs are removed 20:54:38 <Ammler> so there are "unsafe" grfs :-/ 20:54:49 <Ammler> like? 20:54:55 <petern> ... 20:55:13 <petern> most GRFs are unsuitable for use as a static GRF 20:56:08 <petern> but this system has been in place for a long time 20:56:12 <planetmaker> static trainset :P 20:56:32 <Ammler> welll, like opengfx 20:56:33 <planetmaker> you play with ukrs? I don't care, I override it with dbxl :) 20:56:53 <planetmaker> :D 20:59:01 <Ammler> member complained about us adding static grfs to the server :-) 20:59:09 <petern> don't do that 20:59:54 <Ammler> well, the issue is, some need to be overriden by non-static grfs 21:00:11 <petern> ... 21:00:13 <petern> sounds to me 21:00:20 <petern> like you are still confusing yourself 21:00:37 <petern> a 'static grf' is one that is listed in static newgrf section of the config file 21:00:37 <Ammler> hmm 21:01:02 <Ammler> which will be loaded _after_ newgrfs, afaik. 21:01:14 <petern> yes 21:01:29 <petern> however, if you have not put anything in the static newgrf section, then you do not have any static grfs loaded 21:02:03 <Ammler> hmm, can't remember the example 21:02:10 * energetic cheers because his first itty bitty C(++) steps created a working patch 21:02:26 <planetmaker> I think the point of the complaint back then was that I added e.g a grf which replaces signal graphics. 21:02:51 <Ammler> maybe it was with dtuch catenary 21:03:02 <planetmaker> Has no other value than looks. But back then - that grf overrode the static grf settings of another person - which he didn't like a bit. 21:03:10 <planetmaker> that, too. 21:03:27 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:03:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 21:03:34 <petern> le sigh 21:03:36 <petern> you just don't get it 21:03:43 <Ammler> planetmaker: the static will be loaded after 21:03:48 <planetmaker> yeah :) 21:03:53 <Ammler> so it would override your signals 21:03:54 <planetmaker> That's what I understood. 21:04:53 <planetmaker> and I think his problem was: he didn't have static those which he liked :P 21:05:34 <Ammler> yeah, someone should make newgrfs of the original grfs 21:05:47 <Ammler> lol 21:05:48 <planetmaker> oh, another task for "someone" :P 21:06:52 <Bjarni> I'm sorry, but "someone" is already busy coding signals in tunnels and bridges 21:07:02 <planetmaker> but would solve those issues. One then could easily say "If you don't like the looks, add <grfname> to your static list - or go with what was configured." 21:07:14 <planetmaker> Bjarni: he should speed up. 21:07:22 <planetmaker> he just got another task :) 21:07:23 <Bjarni> on top of all the other tasks for "someone". Expect that he will not get time for this task until 2037 21:07:29 <Ammler> oh :-( , I hoped he codes cbh 21:07:36 <planetmaker> But maybe he can just make a de-tour and prepare those grfs first? 21:07:44 <planetmaker> :D 21:08:46 <Ammler> well, it does indeed not make sense adding opengfx bar as newgrf ;-) 21:08:59 *** lolman [~lolman@87.102.80.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:18 <petern> opengfx being a base graphics set now, so it makes no difference 21:09:26 <planetmaker> It made back then :) 21:10:18 <Ammler> petern: don't like opengfx as a whole set. 21:10:22 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Poef!] 21:10:26 <Ammler> i.e. the toolbar 21:10:32 <petern> doesn't matter on a server :p 21:10:40 <planetmaker> the toolbar is less clear :) 21:10:52 <Rubidium> Ammler: how can you say that, it's not even a "whole" set 21:11:02 <Ammler> those are zoomed 32bpp graphics afaik. 21:11:03 <planetmaker> he, yeah :( 21:11:23 <planetmaker> "someone" should finish OpenGFX... 21:11:29 <Ammler> :P 21:11:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c3e1e.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:53 <Ammler> "someone" finished opengfx 21:12:07 <planetmaker> in 2017? 21:12:23 <Ammler> but painted nude girls to some houses and engines, so foobar had to zensor them 21:12:35 <Ammler> c 21:12:52 <Ammler> might be George ;-) 21:13:13 <planetmaker> gah... those political correctness police ;) 21:13:15 <Ammler> I thought the censored version of 4LV was that style 21:13:36 <petern> was what style? 21:13:47 <Ammler> the buses with black boxes 21:13:53 <petern> ah, no 21:14:03 <petern> they're fully complete buses 21:14:16 <Ammler> yeah, I realized that... 21:14:30 <Ammler> but his preview told something else. 21:14:33 <petern> the link on the website is black boxes though, iirc 21:14:35 <petern> hehe :) 21:14:46 <Ammler> yeah. 21:16:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15729 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix: silence MSVC warning 21:17:08 *** Mortomes [~mortomes@i15108.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:17:34 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by caffein depletion...] 21:19:16 <energetic> in openttd code, does performance has prio over readability? 21:19:47 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 21:20:10 <Yexo> hello 21:20:30 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:55 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:20:58 <planetmaker> hello yexo 21:21:07 <Yexo> hi planetmaker 21:21:36 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 21:22:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15730 /trunk/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt: -Fix (r15727): regression wasn't updated. 21:23:38 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.6.143] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 21:24:55 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@ip-67-205-67-52.static.privatedns.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:03 <petern> technically smatz broke savegame compatibility :p 21:27:06 <Rubidium> or fixed it, depending on how you look at it 21:27:20 <petern> *nod* 21:27:21 <Rubidium> odd Tron didn't explode 'back then' 21:29:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15731 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: unify submarine creation 21:32:51 <planetmaker> long time no seen the sub. 21:33:10 <planetmaker> Are there any conditions as to when or where (water obviously, but..) it shows up? 21:34:29 <Ammler> disasters on, afaik 21:34:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15732 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Fix: enumified constant name style 21:35:05 <planetmaker> that might be true. Maybe I should play with disasters again :) 21:35:42 <Ammler> well, we could enable it on the ps. 21:36:00 <Ammler> you need ships too, I guess. 21:36:08 <planetmaker> :) My thought. Sneekily just enabile it via private chat with the PS :P 21:36:46 <planetmaker> like !rcon nuke tile #000A13 ;) 21:37:26 <planetmaker> now that would be the evil admins joy, those commands from hell :) 21:38:13 * petern ponders disasters and breakdowns on on his next game 21:38:17 <Ammler> a nice idea was, to send the plane to bomp ugly parts 21:38:28 <planetmaker> :) 21:38:44 <Ammler> instead of the ufo 21:38:55 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has joined #openttd 21:39:00 <planetmaker> well. I don't mind sending aliens to outsource that ugly job. 21:39:31 <planetmaker> having an ufo land there and self-destruct would be alright, too IMO :P 21:40:07 <Ammler> if you see a signal gap, just !rcon send_ufo 0x0000 21:40:21 <planetmaker> hehe :) 21:40:27 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:33 <planetmaker> I could have nuked a dozen places in the last game then. 21:40:47 <planetmaker> worst were 20 tiles ML w/o signal 21:40:57 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5D999.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:41:09 <glx> [22:19:20] <energetic> in openttd code, does performance has prio over readability? <-- both 21:43:38 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has joined #openttd 21:44:40 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:20 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@glasnost.us] has joined #openttd 21:49:42 <petern> nini 21:49:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15733 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Enabling freeform edges could cause submarines to get stuck on land tiles. 21:50:06 <planetmaker> :D 21:52:26 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:52:53 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:58 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 21:53:11 <planetmaker> hello Nachteule ;) 21:53:51 <Nite_Owl> Hello planetmaker - guessing that that id German for Nite_Owl 21:53:58 <Nite_Owl> *is 21:54:07 <planetmaker> :) At least it's my try in translation :) 21:54:44 <planetmaker> though most owls are active at night - it's nearly an oxymoron(?) :) 21:54:56 <planetmaker> or can you tell me more about owls? 21:56:10 <Nite_Owl> Most are active at night but the nickname refers to the fact that I worked a 3rd shift (12 AM to 8 AM) for over 20 years 21:56:32 <planetmaker> uhu... bad time to work, if you ask me... 21:57:15 <planetmaker> and you stuck with the habbit of those waking times, I guess? 21:58:04 <Nite_Owl> I liked it - yes, given a choice I will still default to late night living 21:58:49 <planetmaker> he :) 21:59:40 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:32 *** racetrack [~rob@lena.its.monash.edu.au] has joined #openttd 22:02:40 *** Mortal [~mortal@0x573a3da2.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: from __future__ import antigravity] 22:03:35 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37FF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:06:56 * Vikthor wonders where the informations about Newgrf displayed on servers.openttd.org page do come from. 22:07:26 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:30 <Rubidium> the servers 22:08:25 <Rubidium> which get it from... the NewGRFs 22:08:26 <Vikthor> And what are the causes for the NewGRF to be listed as Not yet known? 22:08:35 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=773314#p773314 <-- hehe :) 22:08:42 <planetmaker> nice reply, petern :) 22:08:43 <Rubidium> UDP 22:10:12 <Vikthor> UDP? As in that somethings blocks traffic between server and master server? 22:10:38 *** ITSBTH [~ITSBTH@81.191.171.43] has joined #openttd 22:10:42 <ITSBTH> !password 22:10:42 *** ITSBTH was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 22:11:18 <Rubidium> Vikthor: yes 22:11:36 <Rubidium> and the updater apparantly not being very good in retrying ;) 22:11:56 <Rubidium> I think it tries like two times per 'session' 22:12:48 <Vikthor> So, I would have to restart the server, for the updater to retry? 22:13:00 <Rubidium> no, the updater needs to be restarted ;) 22:13:08 <Rubidium> which rarely happens 22:14:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15734 /branches/0.7/: [0.7] -Branch: the long awaited branch so we can introduce new features in trunk before 0.7.0, but not let them destabalize the pending release :) 22:15:17 <Sacro> :o 22:15:30 <Vikthor> aha, and when does he learns that GRF ID xx is GRF yy, is this information stored and used subsequently or does it download all information about grf again? 22:15:35 * Sacro removes his hat and lowers his head 22:16:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15735 /trunk/src/ (ottdres.rc.in rev.cpp.in): -Update: trunk ain't going to 0.7 anymore ;) 22:16:33 <Vikthor> ha, spring is coming, new branches are sprouting :) 22:16:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:41 <planetmaker> nice :) 22:17:13 <SmatZ> DaleStan couldn't handle branching 0.7 :-( 22:17:23 <planetmaker> uh? 22:17:41 <planetmaker> how do you mean, SmatZ ? 22:18:03 <SmatZ> planetmaker: nothing, another failed try to be funny :-p 22:18:09 <Rubidium> SmatZ: :D :D 22:18:18 <SmatZ> :-) 22:18:23 <planetmaker> eh :) 22:18:28 * planetmaker hugs SmatZ :) 22:18:32 <SmatZ> :-) 22:22:30 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:25:16 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@77.163.150.18] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 22:26:42 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejj153.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:27:03 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:32 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:31:40 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37FF80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:16 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:38:05 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:39:51 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x3ef3a188.virnxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:42:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r15736 /trunk/ (12 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: Split AIScanner/AIFileInfo to the more generic classes ScriptScanner/ScriptFileInfo. 22:43:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15737 /branches/0.7/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [0.7] -Prepare: for 0.7.0-RC1. 22:46:02 <Rubidium> why can't I join 0.7.0-RC1 servers yet :( 22:47:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15738 /tags/0.7.0-RC1/ (5 files in 3 dirs): -Release: 0.7.0-RC1 23:01:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D3E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:50 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-118.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Quit: SHRIKEE] 23:05:43 <planetmaker> wuuh. we got an offical release candidate :) 23:14:08 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-76-77.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:15:43 *** posixninja [~posixninj@adsl-152-113-155.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:29:19 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 23:30:11 *** Yeggzzz [~mind@cpc2-rdng22-2-0-cust533.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:50:23 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051166102.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: Rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar] 23:52:10 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:27 <MrFrans> Nice 23:58:00 <Ammler> :-o 23:58:31 <Ammler> that fast, so still no independent release... :-(