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00:00:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-248-81.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:05 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15893 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Add: watermark crash.sav and don't generate crash information if a loaded crash.sav causes a crash 00:25:36 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 00:38:32 <EoD> hm, http://docs.openttd.org/ is down... Is there another way to get the doxygen docs? 00:45:41 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49:45 <goodger> ahoy o/ 00:59:49 <glx> EoD: maybe it's because docs generation failed (but I'm not sure) 01:00:42 <Rubidium> http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r15883/openttd-trunk-r15883-docs.tar.bz2 ? 01:02:05 <Rubidium> but yes, that's pretty likely to be the cause 01:04:47 <EoD> oh, i missed the docs file. Thanks :) 01:06:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.253.9] has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 01:16:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15894 /trunk/src/console_gui.cpp: -Codechange: remove console widget array (it was empty anyway) and window desc 02:04:10 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet703.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:08:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 02:24:14 *** andy|p [~arp@c-75-71-168-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 02:49:04 *** michi_cc [85be797667@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:48 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 03:08:05 *** michi_cc [dfa79888a4@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 03:08:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 03:08:27 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:08:36 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:10 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:37:43 *** EoD [~chatzilla@ppp-93-104-46-99.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38:26 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:42 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 03:42:36 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:53:52 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 04:06:46 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 04:10:29 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:14:50 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:17:03 <taisteluorava> autorenew should be enabled by default in 7.0 : ) 04:21:15 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 04:23:05 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:06:28 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 05:08:54 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm93.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 05:34:37 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:35:34 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0D129.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:45:44 <el_en> tutti a ciao 06:07:32 <Singaporekid> ciao a tutti 06:14:27 <petern_> 7.0 is a long long way away 06:14:55 <Metalcore> perhaps infinitely 06:17:38 <Noldo> petern_: why is that? 06:18:28 <Metalcore> because we're only almost at 0.7.0 now 06:18:37 <Metalcore> (can I say we? >_>) 06:20:19 <petern_> Metalcore is still winning 06:21:03 <Metalcore> i am? i don't even know what the game is <_< 06:22:28 <Metalcore> i'm confused. 06:40:43 *** mikl [~mikl@78.156.222.209.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 06:48:52 *** mikl [~mikl@78.156.222.209.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:55:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 07:04:55 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:05:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B4BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:14:57 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:22:40 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.242.66.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 07:30:41 <welshdragon> is there a setting in o.7.0 rc2 to stop towns from building roads? 07:32:30 <Yexo> yes, look under economy->towns iirc 07:33:34 <welshdragon> thanks Yexo 07:33:49 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@p54972755.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:05 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.242.66.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:45:15 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:47:26 *** Yeggzzz is now known as Yeggs-work 07:53:16 *** emjay88 [~emjay@CPE-60-224-51-178.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:54:14 <emjay88> evening a;; 07:54:16 <emjay88> all* 07:54:41 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm93.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:54:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.168.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:55:38 *** emjay88 [~emjay@CPE-60-224-51-178.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 08:05:28 <Yexo> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&p=776820#p776820 <- Roujin: wasted time :p 08:07:35 <Roujin> nah 08:08:15 <Roujin> that one at least learned how to compile, didn't he? 08:08:31 <Yexo> yes, but that's about everything he learned 08:08:55 <Roujin> still, it's better than a lot of the others... 08:09:11 <Yexo> true 08:09:31 <Roujin> "please compile for me, my computer is too bad for it" <-- yeah sure ;) 08:09:58 <Yexo> my computer overheats <- that guy was a laugh 08:16:02 <Metalcore> god 08:16:33 <Metalcore> and it was all because he had it running way over it's specs 08:17:34 <Metalcore> its* 08:22:40 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32:23 *** emjay [~emjay@CPE-60-224-51-178.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:33:02 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl5401C826.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:33:06 *** emjay is now known as m\emjay88 08:33:10 *** m\emjay88 is now known as emjay88 08:39:22 <dihedral> helloses 08:39:41 <emjay88> hi there 08:40:53 <dihedral> emjay? who's that? 08:41:04 <emjay88> s'me 08:42:41 <dihedral> dont know you :-D 08:42:44 <dihedral> so - welcome ^^ 08:42:56 <emjay88> I've been lurking for a little while 08:43:04 <emjay88> but thanks all the same :) 08:43:18 <dihedral> you are welcome :-D 08:43:47 <dihedral> if you need anything: wiki.openttd.org, google.com and if they fail: ask :-D 08:44:04 <dihedral> hehe 08:53:45 <petern_> hmm 08:54:03 <petern_> all my patches are stuck on my pc ;p 08:54:14 <petern_> which i won't be able to use for a while 08:54:16 <petern_> never mind 08:54:27 <petern_> i can use my usual trick ... "i have a patch for that" 08:59:28 <dihedral> ^^ 08:59:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15895 /trunk/src/landscape.cpp: -Fix (r15685): fixing the slopes was done a bit more often than intended making map generation with the original generator horribly slow 09:00:53 <Rubidium> 10:54 < petern_> i can use my usual trick ... "i have a patch for that" <- I have a patch for that 09:01:00 <petern_> :o 09:01:12 <DASPRiD> Rubidium, cheater :x 09:02:38 <Rubidium> http://www.patchhouse.com/ <- so we can give petern a patch for always having patches 09:06:58 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.246.189.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 09:08:46 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has joined #openttd 09:30:18 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30:21 *** elmex [elmex@ist.m8geil.de] has joined #openttd 09:31:43 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:50:44 *** Forked [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has quit [Quit: boote random] 09:59:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:10:44 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:01 *** Hendikins|PER is now known as Hendikins 10:12:12 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.246.189.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:49 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:21 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has joined #openttd 10:23:40 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 10:29:47 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:38:32 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 10:44:37 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 10:44:41 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:47:06 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:48:46 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 10:49:15 *** [alt]buster] [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:24 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:24 *** [alt]buster] is now known as [com]buster 10:58:45 *** Alyr [~a4farmar@dsl5401C826.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 11:07:05 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-15-154.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:07:13 *** mikl [~mikl@94.191.228.4.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 11:12:49 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-191-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:03 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: *Adios Amigos*] 11:20:03 *** th1ngwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:21:48 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 11:23:00 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:29:59 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:23 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.48.46] has joined #openttd 11:31:38 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 11:36:14 *** [alt]buster] [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has joined #openttd 11:42:17 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:42:17 *** [alt]buster] is now known as [com]buster 11:47:42 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 11:51:36 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 11:52:33 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 12:03:49 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:21 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@f054022104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:30 *** mikl [~mikl@94.191.228.4.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:15:48 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.231.40.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:15 <eQualizer> This just sucks. Truck route which was highly profitable at the beginning of the game, makes negative profit now. :( 12:18:33 <petern_> awww 12:18:38 <dihedral> hehe 12:18:59 <Rubidium> i n f l a t i o n 12:19:07 <dihedral> eQualizer, then you are just not the skilled manager that truck-route needs 12:19:37 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-15-154.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Sacro] 12:20:12 <eQualizer> Shouldn't inflation effect equally both? The cargo payment and running cost? 12:20:21 <petern_> no 12:20:41 <petern_> if it did there'd be absolutely no point to it 12:21:50 <emjay88> eQualizer, perhaps you should expand the route? 12:24:07 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:25:15 <eQualizer> It's fruit to food processing plant, and thei are only ones on the whole map (I like it small), so I can't do much about the route, I think. I've tried to move stations as far away from each other as possible, and the road is already one straight line. 12:26:21 <emjay88> perhaps you need to take the food to a town? 12:26:27 <dihedral> you can service the trucks, you can build a statue, you can ..... read the wiki for what helps 12:26:35 <emjay88> sorry, perhaps you could take food to a town 12:27:41 *** DephNet[Paul] [~paul@host81-158-78-47.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:29:14 <emjay88> anyway, good night all 12:29:21 <eQualizer> Ok, I worked it out. I just have switch trucks to a train. 12:29:31 *** emjay88 [~emjay@CPE-60-224-51-178.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Think your current client is sexy? Check out Bersirc 2.2! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]] 12:29:43 <dihedral> well there you go then! 12:31:09 <petern_> yup 12:31:18 <petern_> trains are well known for being cheap to run 12:31:27 <petern_> that's why there are no trucks in use these days 12:35:50 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest820 12:35:50 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.39.170] has joined #openttd 12:36:24 *** Forked [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has joined #openttd 12:40:24 *** Guest820 [~KenjiE20@92.9.48.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:32 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-150.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:58:08 *** Y_Less [~yless42@cpc2-nfds3-0-0-cust564.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:01:17 <planetmaker> g'day 13:02:39 <dihedral> oi 13:06:36 *** pabmai [iambap@ool-44c56ae4.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:45 *** mikl [~mikl@95.209.231.40.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:09:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:13:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.168.186] has joined #openttd 13:18:37 <Y_Less> hey planetmaker (from Leanden) 13:19:21 <planetmaker> hi 13:19:32 <planetmaker> you go by many names, eh? 13:20:11 <Y_Less> I'm at a mate's house 13:20:17 <Y_Less> on his IRC 13:20:20 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wireless-150.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 13:21:58 <petern_> do, do do do do de do do do dum 13:22:04 <planetmaker> he :) 13:22:10 <petern_> what? 13:23:07 * planetmaker hands a bunch of music notes to petern_ :) 13:23:11 <planetmaker> (and grabs his _ ) 13:23:48 <planetmaker> seems like it was re-widget-ization weekend again 13:24:20 * petern_ rewidgets planetmaker 13:24:31 <planetmaker> :O 13:28:39 * Ammler waits for new patch pack :P 13:31:11 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:32:24 *** Y_Less [~yless42@cpc2-nfds3-0-0-cust564.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:31 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejc18.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:35:26 <taisteluorava> is TortoiseSVN just easier way to compile patches than visual studio? 13:35:41 <planetmaker> no 13:35:49 *** ecke [~ecke@pc150-133.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 13:35:53 <KenjiE20> its just an easy way to svn in windows 13:35:56 <planetmaker> taisteluorava: it cannot compile patches 13:36:02 <Yexo> tortoisesvn is just for downloading the source 13:36:28 <Yexo> you need both tortoisesvn and visual studio (or an alternative for one or both) 13:36:29 <Belugas> hu hu hu... and uploading them if you have the rights 13:36:33 <taisteluorava> so if i want compile newest trunk, cargodesk patch, and few more patches, i nees Visual studio? 13:36:36 <petern_> Belugas :D 13:36:49 <Belugas> ;) 13:36:55 <Belugas> tai 13:36:57 <petern_> VS2008 c++ express will do, yes 13:36:58 <Yexo> taisteluorava: either that or another compiler 13:37:07 <Belugas> taisteluorava : any compiler 13:37:15 <Belugas> damned tab completion :S 13:37:20 <taisteluorava> ok, any "freeware" softwares available? 13:37:32 <taisteluorava> in windows 13:37:33 <Belugas> mmm... not "ANY" compiler 13:37:34 <Yexo> vs2008 express is free 13:37:51 <Yexo> as in, it doesn't cost you any money 13:38:04 *** ecke [~ecke@pc150-133.upce.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:17 <taisteluorava> 90 day trial you mean? ^^ 13:38:31 <planetmaker> taisteluorava: and you should search to forums for the patch pack thread Allain2007 started :) 13:38:41 <taisteluorava> oh, or just express edition is free 13:39:08 <Yexo> experss edition works fine and is free 13:39:15 <taisteluorava> ok, i DL it 13:39:30 <Yexo> don't forget to download openttd-usefull.zip 13:39:36 <Yexo> instructions are on the wiki 13:39:36 <dihedral> Ammler waits for new patch pack :P <- LOL 13:39:49 <Ammler> planetmaker: is damn slow that time ;-) 13:40:05 <planetmaker> mÀh... 13:40:12 <Ammler> :-D 13:40:14 * dihedral feeds planetmaker some grass 13:40:26 * planetmaker munches some nice, fresh spring grass 13:40:36 <planetmaker> *very nutricious stuff* yummi ;) 13:40:44 <dihedral> taisteluorava, i know someone who could become your best friend in no time at all ^^ 13:40:58 <taisteluorava> what you mean?`^^ 13:41:00 <planetmaker> dihedral: ^^ that's why I reccommended that thread 13:41:12 *** ecke [~ecke@pc150-133.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 13:41:28 <taisteluorava> oh crap, 1h DL time with VS express 13:41:41 <petern_> it's big 13:41:46 <planetmaker> :D that's a bit. Better have a flatrate 13:41:48 <taisteluorava> damn slow network 13:41:55 <dihedral> taisteluorava, 1h is also no time 13:41:58 <petern_> no, it's big 13:42:29 <taisteluorava> 200kt/s is just so "old-fashioned" 13:42:54 <taisteluorava> and it cost 33euros, it just suck 13:43:15 <dihedral> flatrate? 13:43:23 <dihedral> well - not that i care to be honest 13:43:59 <glx> then you'll need to download DX SDK ;) 13:44:23 <planetmaker> hehe 13:44:30 <Ammler> taisteluorava: is using that express thing really easier for a newbie then mingw? 13:44:34 <planetmaker> trigger all downloads and return the next day ;) 13:44:43 <glx> (please not August 2007 is the latest working version for openttd) 13:44:44 <Ammler> oh, that question wasn't for taisteluorava ;-) 13:44:52 <taisteluorava> ^^ 13:44:53 <glx> *note 13:44:57 * planetmaker hands an "e" to glx... 13:45:07 <taisteluorava> mingw is available on windows? 13:45:14 <planetmaker> only... ? 13:45:32 <taisteluorava> thought its only to unix systems 13:45:44 <glx> mingw is available on linux too (as a cross compiler) 13:46:17 <planetmaker> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingw <-- :) 13:46:28 <Ammler> msys might be the "only" windows thing 13:46:57 <Ammler> (which you also need) 13:46:58 <Forked> mingw works.. also for cargodest if you get boost in there. google should know how :) 13:47:01 <dihedral> go ho ho ho gle 13:47:03 <taisteluorava> which one is easier to use, mingw or visual express? 13:47:10 <Yexo> glx: later versions do work if you don't care about directmusic 13:47:10 <Forked> mingw 13:47:15 <taisteluorava> ok, i dl it then 13:47:16 <Forked> it's alot easier to setup 13:47:27 <Forked> and you can mostly just follow the linux instructions on how to compile etc etc 13:47:30 <glx> Yexo: that means changing project options ;) 13:47:43 <Ammler> taisteluorava: BOTTD is a very good "openttd-mingw" installer 13:48:04 <dihedral> Ammler, it's not working ;-) 13:48:05 <glx> yes, that's the only working thing in BOTTD :) 13:48:10 <Yexo> yes, indeed 13:48:23 <taisteluorava> so first i DL this: MinGW 5.1.4 13:48:25 <Ammler> dihedral: msys/mingw works nice there 13:48:35 <dihedral> BOTTD does not work 13:48:45 <Forked> taisteluorava: just do as the wiki says 13:48:53 <taisteluorava> ok ^^ 13:48:54 <Forked> I followed it with just a minor problem the other day 13:48:58 <Ammler> dihedral: intaller :P 13:49:00 <Ammler> s 13:49:14 <glx> dihedral: for compiling it doesn't, but for installing mingw/msys and required libs and tools it works 13:49:43 <SpComb> does any recent version of Celestar's cargodest exist? 13:49:48 <glx> no 13:49:50 <Ammler> (you really need to follow the whole page) 13:50:31 <glx> but there are "updated" versions available 13:50:37 <SpComb> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-cargodest 13:50:49 <SpComb> those are from 2008-12-19 :( 13:50:50 <taisteluorava> thats seems to be pretty difficult 13:51:12 <glx> SpComb: yes that's the latest official build 13:51:18 <taisteluorava> visual express quide is way easier 13:51:32 <Yexo> spcomb:there are newer verions, but no by celestar, hence not on that download page 13:51:55 <SpComb> somewhere on the forums? 13:52:01 <Yexo> yes 13:52:01 <glx> taisteluorava: about directx (in this guide), just install august 2007 if you want to compile openttd only 13:52:12 <Ammler> in the "cargodest" thread... 13:55:13 <taisteluorava> this seems to be so complex, can some1 do favour to me and comple few patches : ) 13:56:02 <glx> using visual express is very easy 13:56:02 <planetmaker> :( 13:56:20 <planetmaker> taisteluorava: that's a very lazy question... 13:56:39 <taisteluorava> yeah, i DL that VB express and try make it myself 13:57:00 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@p54972755.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 13:57:07 <glx> intall express 2008, install directx sdk (august 2007), extract openttd-useful somewhere on the hard drive, add paths to openttd-useful in express 2008 configuration 13:57:17 <planetmaker> especially _a few_ patches is something which probably won't work... at least the easy way 13:57:18 * Forked still thinks mingw is easier (but then again I dislike GUIs for such things..) 13:57:24 <glx> you need c++ express :) 13:57:29 <glx> not vb express 13:57:43 <taisteluorava> shit, downloading wrong one then 13:58:07 <planetmaker> visual studio c++ express. Basic indeed is basically not needed :P 13:58:08 <glx> Forked: I use mingw, express 2005 and express 2008 ;) 13:58:15 *** ecke [~ecke@pc150-133.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 13:58:37 <glx> taisteluorava: it's the "yellow" one 13:58:54 <Forked> the express stuff is still a bit .. huge 13:59:00 <taisteluorava> yeah, i try find offline install setup 13:59:18 <glx> offline means you have to download the iso 13:59:27 <SpComb> lets see what happens if one tries to merge from trunk 13:59:42 <glx> SpComb: I tried 13:59:53 <SpComb> and was it terrible? 13:59:59 <taisteluorava> yeah, where i can find that .iso 14:00:05 <glx> but I failed due to orders rework in trunk 14:00:09 <SpComb> hrm 14:00:25 <glx> cargodest is highly integrated in orders 14:00:28 <planetmaker> SpComb: the updated diff by Aali should be fine afaik 14:00:39 <taisteluorava> there is only Visual Studio 2008 Express image 14:00:41 <planetmaker> glx: maybe you want to have a look at his work? 14:00:59 <Ammler> SpComb: aali made a good job updating cargodest, imo. 14:01:09 <planetmaker> ^^ slow hand ;) 14:01:17 <Ammler> ah 14:02:26 <taisteluorava> visual c++ is only 100mb, its right one? 14:02:34 <SpComb> well, one can build on top of that 14:05:23 <Belugas> #This isn't meant to last 14:05:31 <Belugas> #This is for right now! 14:06:05 <dihedral> #so dont stop me now 14:06:11 <dihedral> #i'm having such a good time 14:07:03 <glx> taisteluorava: the iso contains all languages 14:07:37 <taisteluorava> ok, i try follow those openttd wiki so only c++ is needed 14:07:37 <glx> french version is 869MB 14:07:50 <taisteluorava> oh 14:08:02 <glx> (the iso ;) ) 14:08:14 <dihedral> taisteluorava, you wanna learn to make a patchpack? 14:08:53 <SpComb> hrmph, need to figure out how to really use mercurial for out-of-mainline development sometime 14:08:57 <Belugas> taisteluorava: i wold not recommand doing it. EVERYONE is doing it nowaday. not really ... original 14:09:01 <taisteluorava> yeah, need only few patches to it 14:11:30 <SpComb> well, seems to work on r15708 14:11:34 <taisteluorava> any1 remember a patch name which allowed to convert monorail and maglev? 14:11:47 <taisteluorava> like railway -> electric railway 14:11:52 <SpComb> but this one-monolithic-217.46KiB patch thing isn't very good in terms of future merge prospects 14:11:58 <Belugas> ANYONE 14:12:02 <Belugas> SOMEONE 14:12:08 <taisteluorava> yeah, ^^ 14:12:19 <taisteluorava> my english suck ^^ 14:12:21 <SpComb> I do hope Celestar manages to continue work on it before trunk drifts too far from it 14:12:37 <Belugas> nope, it does not. You are just using shortcus 14:12:40 <glx> SpComb: I think Aali have an incremental version for hg somewhere 14:12:47 <taisteluorava> always skipped english lessons, and now its too late ^^ 14:13:22 <glx> not a valid reason to talk sms ;) 14:13:32 <petern_> gruargh 14:13:37 <petern_> fucking sales departments 14:13:38 <petern_> gruargh 14:13:40 <petern_> gruargh!!!! 14:13:44 <petern_> GRUARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 14:17:07 <Forked> did they sell something you cant deliver? :) 14:18:01 <petern_> not exactly 14:18:24 <Forked> they tend to do that :\ 14:19:35 <Rubidium> it think petern's talking about their inability to be sensible 14:20:18 <petern_> but it turns out that "please set up this merchant account" really means "please set up with merchant account and a public facing website to take monthly recurring payments with a back end system which you didn't quote for and in fact have never heard of before and the customer is being charged £49 oh and it needs to be done today" 14:20:32 <petern_> or, what Rubidium said 14:20:35 <Forked> ah that thing 14:21:47 <Belugas> ho so commun :D 14:21:58 <planetmaker> urgs... competence clearly displayed :P 14:21:59 <petern_> yeah, just the usual :) 14:22:19 * Belugas nods heavily, like a headbanger during a solo 14:22:46 <Forked> petern_: I've seen about that length of info shortened down to just a smiley ":)" 14:22:50 <petern_> (oh, and there's no spec) 14:23:06 <Forked> "Instead of typing yada yada blablabla I just typed a smiley and thought you'd understand it" 14:23:58 <Belugas> Forked, it feels better after the explosing of writing, believe me 14:24:26 <Forked> luckily it wasn't directed at me.. 14:29:44 <SpComb> hmm, I guess I'll just forgoe cargodest until such time as there's someone actively working on it again 14:30:00 <SpComb> !seen celestar 14:30:55 <petern_> @seen celestar 14:30:55 <DorpsGek> petern_: celestar was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 4 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Celestar> I'll work on that ... 14:31:05 <petern_> heh 14:31:09 <SpComb> that's what he said 14:31:34 <petern_> well yes, he did 14:33:04 <SpComb> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1237462715#1237462715 <-- seems he tried to merge on the 19th, but myes 14:33:55 <SpComb> if he appears back at some point, we can try and woo him into working on it with offers of gameplay testing and feedback 14:37:30 <SpComb> hmm... I apparently like to leave OpenTTD servers running for long periods of time :P 14:37:44 <SpComb> this one has proably been paused for half a year 14:38:58 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:05 *** padi [pad@bl8-182-24.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:41:23 *** mikl [~mikl@79.138.241.28.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 14:41:37 <petern_> heh 14:41:59 <petern_> hm 14:42:01 *** petern_ is now known as petern 14:43:25 <taisteluorava> Yexo's head2head patch is very impressive, i have played with friend, and it's lot's of fun : ) 14:43:42 <Yexo> thanks :) 14:43:45 <Yexo> did you find any bugs? 14:44:10 <taisteluorava> nope, all work like perfect to us : ) 14:44:34 <padi> where i can find the things that ottd have new in 0.7.0RC2 ??? (sorry my bad english) 14:46:19 <Yexo> padi: http://wiki.openttd.org/New_Features_Since_0.6.0 has most important things 14:46:43 <taisteluorava> yexo, there should be able to disable/enable headtohead on advance settings 14:46:54 <padi> i have RC1 version but now i wanna know the new things of RC2 ^^ 14:46:59 <Yexo> taisteluorava: which binary did you download? 14:47:11 <Yexo> from openttd.org/en/download-head-to-head ? 14:47:23 <Forked> padi: http://binaries.openttd.org/releases/0.7.0-RC2/changelog.txt 14:47:27 <padi> YE 14:47:28 <padi> :D 14:47:29 <padi> thanks 14:47:38 <taisteluorava> sec, i check out few things 14:47:42 <petern> head-to-head is rather more fundamental than an 'advanced setting' 14:47:44 <padi> im doing one new portugal map 14:47:48 <padi> :) 14:47:56 <padi> i played one very tiny 14:48:03 <Yexo> petern: true, but you can disable it 14:48:41 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 14:48:44 <petern> i mean it should be more visible as a starting option 14:49:00 <Yexo> ah, well yes that needs work 14:50:29 <taisteluorava> yeah, i found it, thx : ) 14:50:40 <taisteluorava> this is fantastic patch : ) 14:51:26 <SpComb> why does the openttdcoop page never seem to load for me? :/ 14:51:41 <dihedral> SpComb, www.openttdcoop.org 14:51:50 <SpComb> just hangs 14:51:54 <dihedral> really? 14:51:57 <dihedral> which client? 14:52:26 <SpComb> firefox... 14:52:31 <dihedral> ah - brianetta's server has is kicking buckets again 14:52:37 <dihedral> Ammler, planetmaker ^ 14:52:45 <petern> it's all tripe anyway 14:52:52 <SpComb> does the OpenTTDCoop GRFPack still exist? 14:52:56 <planetmaker> dihedral: I know :( 14:53:56 <dihedral> SpComb, afaik v7.3 is the current and last 14:54:02 <dihedral> but then i dont know much about it 14:54:13 <SpComb> I have 7.0 14:54:48 <planetmaker> SpComb 7.3 is the current one. 14:55:50 <SpComb> and the page is down so I can't get it 14:56:13 <dihedral> :-P 14:57:37 *** mikl [~mikl@79.138.241.28.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:58:03 <planetmaker> SpComb: svn co http://svn.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/tags/7.3/ ~/.openttd/data/ottdc_grfpack 14:58:18 <planetmaker> (if you have subversion) 14:58:30 <planetmaker> that server is still online 14:58:56 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 14:59:40 <planetmaker> and of course the target directory might need adjustment... depending upon your local setup 15:00:58 <Ammler> just use tag ottdc_grfpack 15:01:12 <Ammler> always the newest 15:01:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejc18.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:02:38 <dihedral> Ammler, you change the tag each release??? 15:03:16 *** [com]buster [~Eternal@aalre.zoo.cs.uu.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:33 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 15:03:46 <Ammler> dihedral: yeah, stole the idea from phpMyAdmin :-) 15:04:06 <planetmaker> :) why not? 15:04:10 <Ammler> svn up is easyier then svn sw ... 15:05:21 <dihedral> yuck ^^ 15:07:09 <taisteluorava> i m following openttd visual c++ quide from wiki, but i stucked to Microsoft® DirectX SDK - August 2007 spot 15:07:27 <taisteluorava> i need download that version of Dx from internet? 15:07:51 <Yexo> yes, isn't there a direct link in the wiki? 15:08:25 <taisteluorava> no, but i found it from micro$oft site 15:08:39 <taisteluorava> no shit, almost 500mb 15:09:18 <taisteluorava> yexo, could you compile newest trunk, cargodest and headtohead patches to me : ) 15:09:57 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm43.epsilon180.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:10:07 *** Sacro [~ben@static-87-102-39-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:10:34 <Yexo> taisteluorava: I could, but I won't 15:10:41 <taisteluorava> ok ^^ 15:12:25 <dihedral> taisteluorava, nice try :-D 15:12:44 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 15:13:03 <taisteluorava> i m sneaky, but not enought 15:17:00 *** mikl [~mikl@212.27.16.222.bredband.3.dk] has joined #openttd 15:17:21 <Rubidium> why would one need to compile them especially for you? 15:17:35 <Rubidium> http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r15890/openttd-trunk-r15890-windows-win32.zip <- almost latest trunk 15:17:48 <Rubidium> http://binaries.openttd.org/custom/cargodest/h3b244a8f/openttd-cargodest-h3b244a8f-windows-win32.zip <- latest cargodest 15:18:04 <Rubidium> http://binaries.openttd.org/custom/head-to-head/h1d9ad70c/openttd-head-to-head-h1d9ad70c-windows-win32.zip <- and head-to-head 15:20:32 <planetmaker> :D 15:21:15 <dihedral> hehe 15:21:32 <dihedral> and append the openttd.exe files to eachother :-D 15:22:00 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 15:24:02 <planetmaker> huahuahua ! :P 15:24:15 <Rubidium> lipo! 15:24:48 <taisteluorava> rubi, but how i can use those patch same time without compile them 15:25:21 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:25:24 <glx> you can't 15:25:37 <Rubidium> start all 3 of them, then tell your OS to tile the programs on your desktop 15:26:24 <petern> :D 15:27:05 <Rubidium> to do that right click on the task bar and select 'tile windows vertically' 15:27:22 <jpm> actually it would be nice feature if one could use ships and aircracts between two or more separate games :) 15:27:51 <glx> jpm: won't happen 15:28:01 <jpm> really :) 15:28:18 <taisteluorava> oh shit, now my explorer crashed when i installed tortoiseSVN 15:28:56 <taisteluorava> mirc and firefox is opened, but dont have explorer now ^^ 15:28:59 <taisteluorava> that is so lame 15:29:01 *** ^Spike^ [~tuxpingui@e18077.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:29:31 <glx> ctrl-alt-del, run explorer.exe 15:30:02 <glx> and magically desktop is back 15:30:10 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 15:30:19 <taisteluorava> its running, but still cant do nothing 15:30:28 <el_en> *it's 15:30:43 <pavel1269> any error? 15:30:48 <el_en> and *can't 15:30:50 <murr4y> download linux, backup data, format + install, put backed data back 15:30:55 <murr4y> and magically all problems are gone 15:31:09 <taisteluorava> yeah, i usually boot this shit once a month 15:31:18 <taisteluorava> but first time this crash like this 15:31:21 <pavel1269> :-D you are talking bout win, true? :D 15:31:43 <taisteluorava> yeah 15:32:19 <taisteluorava> i can alt+tab programs atleast 15:32:54 <taisteluorava> but this is just so ridiculous 15:33:01 <petern> aircracts? 15:33:03 <pavel1269> if you can run programs, what you cant? 15:33:24 *** ^Spike^ [~tuxpingui@e18077.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )] 15:34:03 <taisteluorava> cant do nothing, only alt tab few programs, so lame 15:34:13 <pavel1269> reboot? :P 15:34:27 <Yexo> press ctrl+alt+del 15:34:34 <Yexo> choose task manager 15:34:46 <taisteluorava> yeah, but firefox is still downloading directX SDK 15:34:50 <glx> [17:29:37] <+glx> ctrl-alt-del, run explorer.exe 15:34:56 <Yexo> select tab "applications", click "New task..." and type "explorer" 15:35:11 <Yexo> right, should've read the backlog :p 15:35:22 <petern> maybe taisteluorava is using win95 15:35:24 <pavel1269> and if hes runining, quit him :P then run ;) 15:35:28 <pavel1269> :D 15:35:45 <taisteluorava> explorer is running, but does not "work" 15:36:00 <glx> kill him then, it will be restarted 15:36:07 <taisteluorava> ok, i try 15:36:23 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:36:34 <SpComb> hmm... why do I have two different kinds of each industry 15:36:51 <SpComb> 16 power stations on a 512x256 map is a bit much with Normal amount of industries 15:36:55 <SpComb> but there's 10+6 of them 15:38:21 <Yexo> any industry newgrf loaded? 15:38:39 <SpComb> yes, pikka's basic industires 15:38:53 <SpComb> do I have to do something special to disable the default ones? 15:39:02 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 15:39:12 <Yexo> dunno, it may depend on newgrf parameters 15:39:25 <Yexo> but in general the newgrf should disable the default industries 15:39:34 <taisteluorava> hell yeah, could not kill explorer, so i killed whole process tree 15:39:38 <SpComb> hmm, default params 15:39:40 <taisteluorava> = boot 15:41:11 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:50 <taisteluorava> i m sure that tortoise program crashed it all, and last time booted this 3 weeks ago = 100% crash ^^ 15:41:56 <SpComb> is there something I can twiddle to fix it? :/ 15:43:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0cc8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:47 <taisteluorava> huh, thank god, firefox know how continue a download 15:44:39 <Ammler> SpComb: you could make a grf to disable it 15:44:39 <Yexo> SpComb: I have no idea, but most likely you can't fix this game anymore 15:44:48 <SpComb> I can start a new game 15:44:58 <SpComb> Ammler: it's worked fine before... 15:45:14 <Rubidium> SpComb: have you loaded the ecs town vector? 15:45:35 <SpComb> no ECS things other than the DB Set ECS extension 15:48:18 <Rubidium> might be that that ecs thing interferes with pbi in some way 15:48:25 <dihedral> uh... SpComb you're a python guru are you not? ^^ 15:48:35 <Rubidium> iirc pbi and dbset+ecsextension aren't quite compatible 15:49:29 <SpComb> http://yzzrt.qmsk.net/~terom/stuff/openttd-dual-industries.png 15:50:10 <Rubidium> alpineclimate changes industries 15:50:31 <SpComb> this is the same combo of newgrfs that we played with last year :/ 15:50:33 <Rubidium> ttrs has some newcargoes element, maybe also something industry-ish related 15:50:37 <SpComb> only new one is the industrial stations 15:50:56 <SpComb> ah well, life is difficult 15:51:20 <planetmaker> order of grfs matters, if you combine things which affect the same thing 15:51:26 <Rubidium> I reckon we failed to properly implement the newgrf specs and doing it right results in this :( 15:51:30 <planetmaker> maybe you had a different order back then? 15:52:19 <SpComb> I upgraded from ottdc_grfpack 7.0 to 7.3, fixed two paths and replaced the jc-industrial stations with the industrial stations renewal 15:54:51 <frosch123> next time do not use alpine :) 15:55:27 <SpComb> :( 15:56:27 <glx> and you don't need snow on temperate with alpine 15:56:43 <frosch123> esp. with smooth snow transition :p 15:57:00 <glx> and industry grf must be before any vehicle grf 15:57:00 <Ammler> (you can't) 15:59:01 <SpComb> 'tis difficult when one playes OpenTTD about once or twice a year, and then tries to figure out what settings and NewGRFs to use after not having touched them for half a year :( 16:00:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:00:44 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:01:46 <taisteluorava> So BOTTD does not work? why? 16:02:01 <petern> who knows, who cares 16:03:35 <Ammler> taisteluorava: BOTTD does install all you need, but don't compile a binary for you anymore, but it is still much easier then the express/tourtoise things, imo. 16:04:42 <Ammler> at least, if you don't develop self... 16:05:05 <glx> you just need an editor to develop ;) 16:05:25 <Ammler> well, I assume you use the MSEditor ;-) 16:05:44 <glx> yes usually I use VS :) 16:05:58 <glx> but I also use notepad++ 16:16:28 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 16:17:40 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 16:19:06 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:20:29 *** kingj is now known as KingJ 16:36:27 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 16:38:27 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:41:18 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0DFB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:27 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:50:51 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:56:15 *** mikl [~mikl@212.27.16.222.bredband.3.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:59:53 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 17:05:45 *** Splex_ [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 17:05:45 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:26 <taisteluorava> 4ghz dualcore is pretty useless if doesent have a flash hard-drive 17:07:44 <taisteluorava> maybe someday i get one flash drive 17:09:57 <Rubidium> why would you need a flash hard drive to make that useful? 17:10:17 <Rubidium> just use an OS that properly caches your disk access 17:11:40 <el_en> a very strange statement indeed. 17:12:05 <taisteluorava> yeah, but sometimes i hope that i would have a flash drive 17:12:20 <taisteluorava> pretty expensive at now 17:12:40 <el_en> and what would be the main point of having one? 17:12:46 <el_en> the main advantage gained? 17:12:49 <taisteluorava> to have even faster system 17:12:51 <Rubidium> double RAM has probably more positive speed effect than replacing your HDD with a flash disk 17:13:02 <Rubidium> unless you really care about boot time 17:13:11 <taisteluorava> you mean dual channel or double a size of ram? 17:13:23 <Rubidium> double the size 17:13:40 <taisteluorava> it does not increase performance 17:14:10 <el_en> taisteluorava: if you want a fast system, get a ram disk card. 17:14:17 <Rubidium> then you're not using the computer enough 17:14:40 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:14:51 <Prof_Frink> It should do. Cache more, hit the disk less. 17:16:29 <el_en> besides, are flash drives even that fast? seek time is probably better, but what about actual read/write? 17:16:50 <petern> no 17:16:53 <petern> seek is fast 17:16:55 <Rubidium> hmm.. unless you're using a recent "default Windows install" 17:17:03 <petern> there was a test that used 24 flash disks in parallel 17:17:06 <petern> oddly enough that was fast 17:17:11 <taisteluorava> yes ^^ 17:17:15 <taisteluorava> saw that too 17:17:20 <petern> but head to head a normal hard drive has higher throughput 17:17:41 <taisteluorava> now i need to reboot because svntortoise uninstall -.-' 17:18:30 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:32 <taisteluorava> but my 4ghz e8400 boot pretty fast, also little tweaked xp 17:18:52 <taisteluorava> but main thing is, never boot your system 17:19:19 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:51 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 17:20:45 <Prof_Frink> Altenatively, get a real OS. 17:20:50 *** Yeggs-work is now known as Yeggstry 17:20:56 <Belugas> ho... THAT argument again :S 17:21:20 <SmatZ> PE256GS25SSDR 256GB SSD, 240MB/s sequential read, 160MB/s sequential write :) 17:21:21 <petern> hmm, using vga connector on my tft 17:21:28 <petern> had to fiddle to get the timing just right :/ 17:22:03 <petern> SmatZ... that's quite a lot... i guess there's a lot of parallelism going on inside it 17:22:08 <el_en> are there even 4-GHz processors available? 17:22:13 <dihedral> lol @ flash hdd's ^^ 17:22:18 <petern> el_en, when it's overclocked, yes 17:22:21 <SmatZ> petern: yeah :) 17:22:24 <petern> an E8400 runs at 3GHz by default 17:22:50 <Rubidium> SmatZ: what did you use to test that? 17:23:30 <Aali> my E8400 runs at 3.6ghz with stock cooling 17:23:47 <Aali> getting up to 4ghz should not be difficult 17:23:50 <dihedral> the only places i can think of where flash hdd's come in handy are low-power and mobile devices 17:24:02 <dihedral> ah - and noise related things too 17:24:08 <petern> my q6600 runs at 3 with stock, i didn't try higher. 17:24:28 <el_en> dihedral: although at least the first flash hdds needed more energy than hard drives. 17:25:29 <el_en> petern: my q6600 does 3 with stock, too, but is it perhaps the limitation of my bios that speedstep gets disabled if overclocked... 17:25:43 <petern> must be 17:25:46 <Aali> oh that sucks 17:25:52 <Aali> had that on my old amd mobo 17:26:14 <Aali> ended up running stock speed because of that :/ 17:26:23 <petern> maybe they assume that if you're overclocking you wouldn't want it to run slowe.r.. 17:27:05 <el_en> i have never upgraded the bios though, there are several newer releases available. 17:27:44 * Belugas feels so passé with his little Athlon 1.3 :( 17:28:10 <el_en> ah, now i also remember another annoying side-effect of overclocking; the system clock ran way too fast in linux at least. 17:28:18 <petern> i'm on a p4 1.6 laptop at the moment 17:28:28 <petern> it's... not very nice 17:28:36 <petern> system clock ran fast? hahaha 17:29:03 <el_en> yeah, over*clock*ing 17:29:12 <Aali> I remember overclocking my old 400mhz celeron 17:29:32 <Aali> seemed to work fine, but randomly corrupted the hd :) 17:29:33 <petern> the 300s were famous for getting to 450 easily 17:29:37 <el_en> I remember overclocking my P133 to 150. 17:29:48 <petern> pah 17:29:54 <petern> my dad bought a 486DX2-66 17:30:07 <petern> except it turned out the store had fitted a DX2-50 and overclocked it 17:30:22 <petern> and it wasn't an intel 17:31:00 <Rubidium> :O it had DirectX2 support? ;) 17:31:51 <el_en> my P133 had a cheap chinese motherboard, whose bios was warez. (warezed by the mobo manufacturer) 17:31:52 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:32:03 <petern> heh 17:32:18 <petern> so your overclocked E8400 takes 12 minutes to reboot? 17:33:07 <petern> hmm, there is an advantage to using this laptop... it's pretty quiet 17:33:18 <planetmaker> hehe :) 17:33:23 <Rubidium> for a tweaked Windows XP that would be considered fast? 17:33:27 <Rubidium> damn... 17:33:29 <taisteluorava> xD 17:33:55 <Rubidium> what if an OS boots within a minute? How would that be called? 17:34:19 <taisteluorava> linux linpus on e8400 would be nice 17:35:22 <petern> linpus? 17:36:15 <el_en> taisteluorava: how much memory does your 4GHz system have? 17:36:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15896 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:36:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-03-30 17:35:58 17:36:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: danish - 2 changed by beruic (2) 17:36:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: icelandic - 27 fixed, 13 changed by scrooge (40) 17:36:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 6 changed by anansboga (6) 17:36:21 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 1 fixed, 13 changed by meush (14) 17:36:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: serbian - 97 fixed by etran (97) 17:36:28 <taisteluorava> 2gb, just for XP 17:37:35 <taisteluorava> superpi in 1 million record is 11,67 seconds : ) 17:37:58 <petern> and 12 minutes to boot 17:38:50 <Prof_Frink> And I thought my workstation was slow to get going. 17:38:51 <taisteluorava> its not normal? : D 17:39:27 <petern> not... exactly 17:39:48 <Prof_Frink> (Arrive-power-mug-kitchen-rinse-urn-tea-milk-desk-login) 17:40:28 <Prof_Frink> 12 minute boot... I'd've got though another cup of tea. 17:40:45 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:42:52 <dihedral> petern, booting might take so long because it's not a flash hdd 17:42:53 <dihedral> :-D 17:43:24 <Aali> yeah, a flash hdd could load all that crap in just 5 minutes! 17:43:27 <Rubidium> or because he wants to load Windows XP with only 256 MB 17:43:32 <Prof_Frink> dihedral: That's why my SATA leads have go-fater stripes on them. 17:44:09 <dihedral> i was considering to put flash hdd's into my laptop 17:44:28 <dihedral> but only to increase battery life and shock resilience 17:44:51 <dihedral> i was *once considering.... ^^ 17:45:32 <petern> hmm 17:45:42 <Prof_Frink> dihedral: Don't forget the geek-cred. 17:45:51 <dihedral> :-P 17:45:54 <petern> you need more ram too 17:45:58 <dihedral> hey 3.4 - 4 h is shite! 17:46:03 <petern> cos you don't really want to swap on it 17:46:07 <petern> i dream of 3.4 - 4 h! 17:46:07 <dihedral> :-D 17:46:13 <dihedral> i cam from 5 17:46:17 <dihedral> 5.5 actually 17:46:17 <petern> mine gets about 1 - 1.5h 17:46:26 <petern> it is a p4 though 17:46:33 * dihedral loves his 12" g4 powerbook 17:46:46 <Prof_Frink> petern: Can you flip it over and fry bacon on it? 17:46:57 <petern> wouldn't surprise me 17:47:06 <dihedral> :-P 17:47:14 <glx> Prof_Frink: of course, it's a P4 17:47:24 <dihedral> it's an anti-lap top 17:47:46 <Prof_Frink> It's a laptop... as long as you don't want kids. 17:47:59 <dihedral> at least it keeps you warm in winter if you are waiting outside for a bus or co. 17:48:16 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 17:49:11 <petern> not really 17:49:17 <petern> battery would go flat before then 17:50:04 <dihedral> hehe 17:50:14 <dihedral> so would everything else :-D 17:51:22 <Belugas> my kid has a laptop. Acer Aspire One. Nice but a bit sluggish 17:52:13 <glx> flash hard drive? 17:52:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.192.235] has joined #openttd 17:52:25 <Belugas> yes 17:52:48 <Belugas> 8GIG internal + SD card 8GIG 17:53:00 <petern> probably a normal one rather than SmatZ's superspeed device 17:53:12 <Belugas> yup 17:53:22 <Belugas> no superspedd on that unit for sure :) 17:55:56 <Belugas> either, kiddo is better equiped than the old man 17:56:02 <Belugas> HIS old man 17:57:38 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:52 *** Gekz [~brendan@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 17:58:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.168.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:58 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:28 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:44 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:44 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:48 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 18:18:45 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37E629.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:04 <Belugas> #You can have it all 18:19:09 <Belugas> #My empire of dirt 18:19:20 <Belugas> # I will let you down 18:19:26 <Belugas> # I will make you hurt 18:27:30 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:32:39 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 18:32:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 18:33:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:34:12 <el_en> http://www.computerworlduk.com/toolbox/open-source/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2044&blogid=14 18:37:31 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37E629.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:48:50 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 18:49:32 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm43.epsilon180.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:50:03 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest855 18:50:03 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:36 *** Guest855 [~Dale@c-98-223-48-35.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:29 *** Brokkoli [~Brokkoli@f054022104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *yaorm*] 19:15:19 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Ð£Ñ ÐŸÐ¶Ñ Ñ ÐŸÑ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 ОлО ÑÑаÑÑе)] 19:19:38 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 19:21:05 * padi on Metallica - Fuel 19:21:26 <glx> padi: we don't like this feature :) 19:21:33 <padi> sorry X: 19:22:25 <padi> glx how i can install 32bpp graphics in ottd 19:22:25 <padi> ? 19:22:32 * Belugas on his chair 19:23:01 <glx> download tar and put it in data 19:23:17 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 19:23:18 <petern> first, you draw them :D 19:23:25 <glx> then use a 32bpp blitter 19:24:21 <padi> lol i dont wanna draw nothing, i just wanna play with 32bpp graphs, but i dont know where is the best 32bpp graphic pack 19:24:32 <petern> graphs! 19:24:55 <artart78> padi: search on http://wiki.openttd.org 19:25:15 <padi> thanks 19:25:54 <padi> i think ottd its very difficult to make our own things xD 19:26:02 <padi> i just only make patches for FIFA09 19:26:09 <padi> for ottd i cant xD 19:26:09 <padi> :P 19:26:26 <Belugas> tut tut tut... you CAN. You just don't KNOW 19:27:36 <petern> well 19:27:50 <petern> good luck findig a complete, coherent, 32bpp graphics set. 19:28:05 <padi> LOOL 19:28:08 <padi> luck? 19:28:10 <padi> why? 19:28:12 <padi> xD 19:28:37 <padi> i think doesnt exist any complete pack :$ i think, but i dont know 19:28:52 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 19:28:53 <petern> exactly 19:29:03 <padi> i saw some great graphics in http://wiki.openttd.org 19:29:20 <padi> because of it i asked xD 19:29:24 <padi> (sorry my bad english) 19:31:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5ED45.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:32:19 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:33:17 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:28 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e176228099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:33:33 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:35:17 <Belugas> hello Nite_Owl 19:35:26 <Belugas> mmh... that meminds me... 19:35:31 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:35:43 <Nite_Owl> Hello Belugas 19:38:01 <Nite_Owl> Dare I ask what reminded you of what 19:39:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-69.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:41:09 <SpComb> passenger networks just aren't the same without cargodest :( 19:42:05 <artart78> what do you wait to be done for 0.7.0 final ? 19:42:46 <planetmaker> artart78: all bugs ;) 19:42:51 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:07 <artart78> planetmaker: where are they ?? there's a bugzilla ? 19:43:14 <planetmaker> bugs.openttd.org 19:43:19 <planetmaker> see the channel topic :I) 19:43:27 <Belugas> Nite_Owl : you -> owl -> the hawk is howling -> mogwai -> damned... cd at home -> booo 19:43:34 <Rubidium> actually, the bugs are in the code... 19:43:37 <planetmaker> lool :) 19:43:58 <planetmaker> as long as they aren't in your bed ;) 19:44:26 <Belugas> artart78 : actually, we are waiting for the right disposition of the stars in the night sky 19:45:16 <planetmaker> Belugas: I heart that ain't true. It's rather the ying of the planes which needs to fall into place ;) 19:45:37 <Belugas> yeah... and the CHI of the maps too... 19:46:04 <planetmaker> hehe :P 19:46:54 <SpComb> and it looks like there isn't any way to transport food in this game :/ 19:47:05 <SpComb> are city buildings supposed to accept food? 19:47:16 <SpComb> or where does one deliver it for a city? 19:47:42 <Belugas> you need the pizza car 19:47:45 <SpComb> the town thing says "Food required", but there's no food acceptance at any station in that city 19:47:53 <petern> mmm, pizza 19:47:54 <planetmaker> SpComb: depends upon climate and newgrfs. 19:48:07 <SpComb> arctic, and the wrong combo of newgrfs 19:48:18 * Nite_Owl types too slow 19:48:22 <planetmaker> SpComb: artic needs it by default for towns above snow line 19:48:33 <SpComb> yes, but where does one deliver it to get it to a city? 19:48:38 <planetmaker> city 19:48:40 <planetmaker> like pax 19:48:56 <planetmaker> or mail 19:49:01 <Nite_Owl> is the city above the snow line 19:49:03 <planetmaker> or goods :) 19:49:04 <SpComb> the stations don't accept food 19:49:09 <planetmaker> eh... 19:49:18 <planetmaker> that's bad then :) 19:49:35 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-164-49.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:36 <planetmaker> SpComb: also not stations placed more central or so? 19:49:46 <planetmaker> (of course no bus stops) 19:49:46 <SpComb> nope, nowhere 19:50:04 <SpComb> they don't count as goods? 19:50:52 <planetmaker> no. It's a different thing 19:51:30 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:51:32 <SpComb> ah well, guess they'll all have to take the passenger train and go shopping in at Tundhead, where the food processing plant is :( 19:52:03 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-139-154.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 19:52:18 <SpComb> need to fix the newgrfs for the next game 19:53:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r15897 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Completed widget numbers and comment of create-scenario window. 20:00:05 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-139-154.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:51 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:02:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r15898 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Added nested widgets for create-scenrario window 20:03:03 <petern> scenRARio 20:03:14 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-132-1.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:04:04 <glx> hmm CIA-1 faster than DorpsGek 20:04:06 <Prof_Frink> savegtargzame. 20:04:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r15899 /trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp: -Fix (r15898): Removed widget number comments used for debugging. 20:04:42 <pavel1269> how do you know, that hes waster than DorpsGek ? 20:04:56 <pavel1269> *faster 20:05:35 <Ammler> someone up for a head-to-head match? 20:07:51 <petern> gah 20:07:59 <petern> i have no idea how to code the lua bit 20:08:03 <petern> is squirrel easier? 20:10:50 <pavel1269> Ammler: will you have time .... 5.4? :P 20:11:15 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-132-1.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:18 <Ammler> 5.4? 20:11:30 <pavel1269> 5.4 2009 20:11:34 <pavel1269> you know date? 20:11:44 <Ammler> what is then? 20:11:44 <pavel1269> this sunday :-P 20:12:06 <pavel1269> i will have time to play? :P 20:12:07 <Ammler> well, we thought about a match now for around 4 years 20:12:09 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 20:12:24 <Ammler> start would be at 21.30 UTC 20:12:30 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:12:36 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-171-76.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:12:45 <pavel1269> i have 22:12 and i am sleeping almost here 20:12:58 <Ammler> same time here 20:14:09 <Rubidium> 21:30 UTC is in like 76 minutes 20:17:54 <Belugas> it's near 16:18 and i want to get home 20:19:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15900 /trunk/src/yapf/yapf_costrail.hpp: -Fix (r5076): Adding settings is not enough, you also have to use them. 20:20:04 <petern> lol 20:20:25 <petern> bh 20:20:29 <petern> 500 on hg :( 20:20:45 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-171-76.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:01 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-167-210.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 20:22:50 <planetmaker> lol... I wished it was as easy as adding a setting int *setting* ;) 20:22:56 <planetmaker> s/int/in 20:22:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5ED45.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:24:59 <Ammler> oh summertime 20:25:45 <Ammler> well i meant in 5 mins 20:27:16 <frosch123> does switzerland always switch to summertime on mondays 22:30 ? 20:27:54 <Aali> he didn't say that :) 20:27:59 <Aali> Ammler: I'll play 20:28:18 <Ammler> join #coopetition if you want, we have around 8 maps now 20:28:33 <Ammler> but not sure yet, how many likes to participate 20:30:16 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: You'll have to get more than 6' above sea level if you come climbering. 20:34:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B4BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:46 <Ammler> Yexo: around? 20:36:05 <Sacro> ? 20:36:21 <Sacro> ah yes Prof_Frink , wanted to discuss that with you :P 20:37:06 * Prof_Frink runs away 20:37:44 <Nite_Owl> you should have climbed away 20:38:41 * Prof_Frink sits on the Balcony 20:41:56 *** EoD_ [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 20:42:13 <pavel1269> gn 20:42:18 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44:00 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: you do that 20:44:03 * Sacro pushes Prof_Frink 20:44:22 <Prof_Frink> You'll have to get up here first. 20:44:38 <Prof_Frink> It's HS 4b. 20:47:11 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:17 <Sacro> :o 20:47:27 <Sacro> i think i'm 4c-5a 20:47:29 <Sacro> so should be alright :D 20:48:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r15901 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Add: AIIndustryType::IsBuiltOnWater(), HasHeliport() and HasDock(). Just like AIIndustry. 20:48:52 <Prof_Frink> But is that 4c-5a while being bashed on the head with a Rock 14? 20:50:09 <Sacro> I've not done that kind of route before 20:50:25 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:47 <Prof_Frink> How d'ya mean? 20:51:23 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:38 <Sacro> I tend to avoid the head bashing routes 20:51:42 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:52:02 <Prof_Frink> Pfft. 20:52:49 <Prof_Frink> At swanage, you should always be equipped for head-bashing. 20:54:30 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 20:54:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:54:58 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:57:56 <Sacro> Hmm 20:58:01 <Sacro> not been there 20:59:14 <Prof_Frink> The top outs are not known for their solidity. 20:59:20 <Ammler> frosch123: petern up for a fight? 20:59:46 <Ammler> :-) 20:59:57 <frosch123> what? 21:00:01 <Ammler> Rubidium: is awake too 21:00:27 <frosch123> is that a lame attempt to highlight everyone? in that case I take sacro 21:00:51 <Ammler> frosch123: no, serious :-) 21:01:06 <frosch123> a serious attempt to highlight everyone? 21:01:08 <Ammler> we play for 4 years openttd 21:01:14 <Ammler> everyone on his own map 21:01:16 <Sacro> ooh I can do that !names :D 21:01:43 <Prof_Frink> Why do that when you can do the other one? 21:01:52 <Sacro> the otherwone? which? 21:02:01 <frosch123> well, actually, good night :) 21:02:07 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0cc8.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:10 <Prof_Frink> !password 21:02:10 *** Prof_Frink was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 21:02:10 <SpComb> that's only fun if you set the terrain type to Mountainous! 21:02:11 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad683cb.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:02:17 <Prof_Frink> of course 21:02:40 <petern> what who? 21:02:45 <SpComb> with 4x freight_weight and only the BR92 21:04:29 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 21:06:21 <Sacro> 10x and a class 08 shunter! 21:10:08 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Quit: aieee!] 21:10:19 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149.simpli.biz] has joined #openttd 21:10:31 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:06 <petern> 255x and a pony! 21:11:22 <Prof_Frink> Needs more wheels. 21:11:37 <goodger> wha? 21:12:08 <petern> http://www.leorec.co.uk/images/IM44b_Antiqu_childs_toy_pony_trap.JPG 21:12:11 <petern> ^ pony with wheels 21:12:21 <Prof_Frink> Fantastic "Needs more wheels" Contraption. 21:13:31 <Belugas> night all 21:14:49 <goodger> night Belugas 21:16:01 *** EoD_ [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:17:26 <Nite_Owl> Later Belugas 21:18:09 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #openttd 21:18:44 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:08 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-51-190.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:37:32 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37E629.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:37 *** EoD [~eod@ppp-93-104-104-252.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009030713]] 21:38:11 *** Timitry [~Tim@p5B37E629.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:52:10 *** Yeggstry is now known as Yeggzzz 22:01:53 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:04:28 *** MrFrans [~MrFrans@a80-101-158-105.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 22:04:52 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:28 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:07:30 *** KingJ is now known as kingj 22:08:54 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:10:41 *** eMjay88 [~michael@60.241.9.164] has joined #openttd 22:14:39 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 22:23:25 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:27:25 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 22:30:26 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:19 <padi> why in my ottd appears black buildings and trains? 22:40:20 <padi> :( 22:41:53 <planetmaker> you use OpenGFX. It's unfinished graphics. Use the proprietary basegraphics 22:42:22 <padi> oohh 22:42:24 <padi> :\ 22:42:25 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 22:42:34 <padi> open GFX seems so cool 22:42:45 <padi> ok i have to wait 22:42:50 <padi> to finished graphs 22:42:51 <padi> :P 22:43:29 *** goodger [~ben@host81-152-233-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:46:21 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-191-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 22:50:17 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:50:49 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet508.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:51:07 *** Prof_Frink is now known as BRIAN_BLESSED 22:51:45 *** BRIAN_BLESSED is now known as Prof_Frink 22:55:52 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host86-160-63-111.range86-160.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:16 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 600 seconds] 23:13:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15902 /trunk/ (49 files in 6 dirs): -Cleanup: remove pointless merge info; we're not intending to merge moved files back anyways... 23:13:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-82-13-27-15.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:15:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15903 /branches/0.7/ (56 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed) 23:15:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 23:15:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: YAPF did not apply the platform length (too long/too short) penalties (r15900) 23:15:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Fixing the slopes was done a bit more often than intended making map generation with the original generator horribly slow (r15895) 23:15:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: YAPF used different penalties for aqueducts than for other water tiles (r15891) 23:15:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Round the production rate up, so e.g. oilrigs always produce some passengers on lowest production level [FS#2772] (r15888) 23:15:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Fix: Libtimidity cannot handle frees of NULL (in contrast of most other frees) [FS#2770] (r15886) 23:21:12 *** zodttd [~me@user-142gtg7.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:22:12 *** mikegrb [~michael@mikegrb.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:22:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15904 /branches/0.7/ (22 files in 6 dirs): 23:22:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 23:22:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Feature: Watermark crash.sav and do not generate crash information if a loaded crash.sav causes a crash so the real crash report does not get overwritten (r15893) 23:22:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Feature: Add autoclean_novehicles setting which will, when autoclean_companies is true, remove any company with no vehicles and no active client after autoclean_novehicles-months (r15848) 23:22:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Add: [NoAI] AIIndustryType::IsBuiltOnWater(), HasHeliport() and HasDock(). 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