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00:01:14 <Sacro> Shouldn't subsiduaries be sorted by due date? 00:01:14 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:26 <Rubidium> we don't have subsiduaries 00:02:29 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 00:02:35 <Sacro> i mean subsidies :P 00:03:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15972 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.cpp core/address.h core/udp.cpp network.cpp): -Codechange: remove unneeded parameter 00:04:46 <Rubidium> don't quite care about subsidies ;) 00:05:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15973 /trunk/src/network/network.cpp: -Codechange: make it possible to listen on multiple TCP sockets 00:10:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r15974 /trunk/src/network/core/host.cpp: -Fix (r15969): win32 compilation was broken (again) 00:18:57 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:27:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15975 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.cpp core/address.h core/udp.cpp network_udp.cpp): -Codechange: register each of the IPs we have bound to to the masterserver 00:29:47 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:35:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.241.131] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 00:41:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15976 /trunk/src/network/core/address.cpp: -Codechange: make it a bit more clear for what (type of) address binding fails 00:43:21 <SpComb> Rubidium: register them as separate servers? 00:45:08 <Rubidium> at this right moment yes, but in the near future no 00:48:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-223-152.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:48:17 <SpComb> although I don't see anything in the diff that does that 00:49:48 <Rubidium> search harder ;) 00:50:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15977 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/ (12 files in 4 dirs): [MSU] -Codechange: use more of the goodies of trunk ;) 00:52:18 <Rubidium> https://secure.openttd.org:444/test-www/en/server/4 <- one server, two IPs 01:02:18 *** dgrim [~dgrim@71-87-59-167.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has quit [Quit: dgrim] 01:14:22 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.169.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:48 <glx> https://secure.openttd.org:444/test-www/en/server/6 <-- and a win32 server too :) 01:23:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15978 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.h network.cpp): -Codechange: support parsing [] enclosed IPv6 addresses. 01:23:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15979 /trunk/src/network/core/address.cpp: -Codechange: tweak the debug/warning levels of some of the messages when binding 01:49:34 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:204:23ff:fea7:166e] has joined #openttd 01:49:41 <EoD> hi 01:50:06 <EoD> everyone already asleep... 01:55:34 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:204:23ff:fea7:166e] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009040606]] 02:08:05 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:204:23ff:fea7:166e] has joined #openttd 02:08:15 <EoD> i forgot something 02:09:00 <EoD> Rubidium: Great work! I had some problem with "strange packets" (the dbg said so) the first time, but afterwards everything seemed to be fine :) 02:09:56 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@ip192-213-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:25 <EoD> I connected via console as the gui isn't ready, yet 02:12:08 <EoD> if anyone is interested: [2001:6f8:1022:0:cafe::2]:3980 02:13:41 <EoD> r15979 with random newgrf from bananas 02:13:48 <EoD> wish everyone a good night, bye 02:13:53 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:204:23ff:fea7:166e] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009040606]] 02:18:25 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 03:09:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:35 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:19:07 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:148b:4138:d87c:f76b] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:32:42 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:55 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:55 *** TinoDidriksen [~projectjj@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:29:48 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 04:35:31 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:49:58 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 05:05:19 *** named1029 [~named1029@219-89-24-82.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 05:06:20 <named1029> I am running Gentoo and have installed OpenTTD using emerge. I cannot find the executable 05:08:43 *** named1029 [~named1029@219-89-24-82.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has quit [] 05:18:57 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 05:27:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.169.11] has joined #openttd 05:34:19 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:39:10 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:51:49 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:02:08 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-175.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:12:14 *** DJNekkid [~chatzilla@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 06:16:21 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 06:16:44 <Forked> meep 06:26:27 <petern> hurr 06:26:29 <petern> ipv6 openttd :s 06:35:00 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc65c.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 06:44:04 <dihedral> morning 06:44:14 <dihedral> Rubidium, i like all the networkstuff going on ;-) 06:45:49 *** Dr_Jekyll [R4R@p57B0B775.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 06:48:24 <petern> tcp6 0 0 :::3979 :::* LISTEN 2589/openttd 06:48:27 <petern> yeah 06:50:54 <petern> dbg: [net] Client connected from [::1] on frame 1086 06:50:55 <petern> hurr 06:52:04 <Gekz> :o 06:52:18 <Gekz> IPv6 is not part of the original matrix 06:52:22 <Gekz> this shit is bust wide open yo 06:54:48 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 06:58:34 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:02:29 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has joined #openttd 07:10:52 <petern> 666kB/s :o 07:11:20 <Rubidium> evil ;) 07:16:00 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:43 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F9E6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:38:50 <dihedral> ^^ 07:46:32 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 08:00:30 <blathijs> /win 20 08:03:20 *** ctibor [~ctibor@12-23-80-78.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:18:43 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host217-42-3-111.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:27:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 08:27:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v petern] by ChanServ 08:30:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C1C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:42:42 * jonty-comp has an ipv6 server listening, apparently 08:43:00 <jonty-comp> although now I'm waiting for the svn to compile on my home pc ._. 08:43:15 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc65c.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:44:50 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va74c.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 08:45:02 <jonty-comp> the DEP CHECK bit always takes forever :( 08:46:18 <jonty-comp> bah, an error in one of those squirrel libraries 08:46:21 * jonty-comp searches about 08:46:46 <petern> no squirrel libraries required 08:47:10 <petern> and install xutils-dev as makedepend is much faster 08:47:28 *** jpm [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 08:47:34 <jonty-comp> http://paste.openttd.org/181490 08:48:38 <petern> cygwin ftl 08:48:38 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@115.131.2.172] has joined #openttd 08:48:54 <AshKyd> Just finished the massivest super massive OSM data gathering trip everrrrrrr. 08:49:10 <AshKyd> My arms and legs are sore, but I had fun. ^_^ 08:52:33 <DJNekkid> petern: what would the format of a CB36 with a 85 and not a 81 be? 08:52:48 <petern> ? 08:53:11 *** jpm_ [pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:53:12 <DJNekkid> something along this: 08:53:13 <DJNekkid> -1 * 0 02 00 CC 85 10 00 FF 01 00 80 \w376 14 14 00 FF 08:53:46 <DJNekkid> hmm ... 08:53:54 <petern> format doesn't change 08:54:03 <petern> you just test a word instead of a byte 08:54:41 <DJNekkid> well, the clue is, i want to return the value 376 08:55:02 <petern> you return a callback result 08:55:15 <petern> 81 vs 85 has no bearing on the result 08:55:46 <DJNekkid> but it can make me return a value higher then 255, or have i misunderstood? 08:55:57 <petern> you have misunderstood 08:56:04 <AshKyd> Oh hello, this is *way* not the Open Street Map channel. Gawd, Iâm dumb sometimes. 08:56:19 <petern> ttd, osm... close? 08:56:29 <jonty-comp> the keys are like right next to each other 08:56:35 <petern> maybe you were mapping ttd towns :D 08:56:40 <AshKyd> Yeah, Iâve got both on my buddy list, I clicked the wrong one. :/ 08:56:44 <jonty-comp> anyway, most people in this channel talk nonsense, so we don't mind :p 08:57:09 <AshKyd> Lol, thanks. :) 08:57:15 <DJNekkid> so, how would i be able to return/create a number higher then 255 ? 08:57:28 <petern> you see that 80? 08:57:30 <DJNekkid> yes 08:57:33 <DJNekkid> make that like 1 08:57:40 <DJNekkid> and remove 256 from 377? 08:57:51 <petern> that means, in binary 1 0000000 08:58:05 <petern> those 7 zeroes are part of the callback result 08:58:44 <petern> the only condition is you can't return 11111111 cos that means it's an 8 bit callback value 08:58:49 <petern> however 08:58:49 <DJNekkid> so ... \b110 81 ? 08:58:51 <DJNekkid> ish 08:59:10 <petern> if the cb36 is only expecting an 8bit value it makes no difference 08:59:28 <petern> which property are you doing? 08:59:34 <DJNekkid> 14 (capacity) 09:00:31 <petern> yeah, that'll take 15 bits 09:02:36 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:05:07 <DJNekkid> something along this? http://paste.openttd.org/181493 09:07:29 <petern> whatever the value should be 09:07:54 <petern> it's probably best *not* to mix \b LSB and a hex MSB though 09:09:26 <petern> i'd put "78 81" with a comment at the end mentioning it's 376 09:09:35 <DJNekkid> yea ... :) 09:14:59 <jonty-comp> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=41888 <-- aha 09:15:12 <jonty-comp> If I must compile it under VC++... :( 09:18:40 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D5FB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:20:25 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@115.131.2.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:24:07 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-17.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:25:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:25:40 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:25:43 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:28:00 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@118.208.127.135] has joined #openttd 09:40:31 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051148004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:46:44 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejf197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 09:50:21 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:50:41 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:50:49 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 09:51:07 <Yexo> hello 09:51:39 <Xaroth> hypothechnically, it should be more than doable for a 3rd party application to prod an openttd server and get it's info, right? 09:51:42 * jonty-comp tries to figure out how to connect to his ipv6 server 09:53:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:53:41 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:57:15 <jonty-comp> oh, there we go 09:57:24 <jonty-comp> I can connect to it via the command-line 09:57:29 <jonty-comp> and it seems to be working ipv6-y 09:57:42 <Xaroth> ipv6-y? 09:57:45 <jonty-comp> but it doesn't show up on the masterserver, and I can't add it as a server in the menu 09:57:46 <Xaroth> doesn't sound good :P 09:57:50 <jonty-comp> :O 09:58:03 <jonty-comp> but it is an ipv6 test server! 09:58:06 <jonty-comp> at [2001:1af8:fe2e:110::1]:3979 09:58:13 <jonty-comp> I know 09:58:21 * jonty-comp sets up vps.ipv6.jontysewell.net 09:58:39 <Xaroth> the joy of VPS :) 09:59:10 <Xaroth> i'm long glad my company has 2 /24 ranges.. 1 for customers, 1 to test stuff with :P 09:59:14 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:15 <jonty-comp> dbg: [net] Client connected from [2001:5c0:1400:b::a91] on frame 2663 09:59:16 <jonty-comp> woo 09:59:17 <Xaroth> (aka, 1 for work, 1 for openttd) 09:59:22 <jonty-comp> heh 09:59:35 * petern only has 1 /21 :( 09:59:44 <jonty-comp> I'm probably forgetting something obvious re. not appearing on the masterserver 09:59:50 <jonty-comp> I usually do that kind of thing 09:59:55 <petern> jonty-comp, yeah, the server list stuff doesn't support ipv6 yet 09:59:59 <jonty-comp> ah, I see 10:00:10 <petern> should be able to connect directly though 10:00:14 <jonty-comp> but I had to do openttd.exe -n 10:00:17 <petern> at least, i assume 10:00:20 <jonty-comp> well, that's good to know 10:00:30 <Rubidium> the serverlist doesn't do IPv6 yet 10:00:32 <Xaroth> petern: network_data.h contains all the stuffs i need to make a 3rd party app that can read a server's info, right? 10:00:42 <jonty-comp> I shall mess about a bit and generate some traffic 10:00:46 <petern> pass 10:00:55 <Xaroth> ugh :P 10:01:07 * Xaroth goes fiddle 10:01:08 <Rubidium> primarily because the "get serverlist" stuff isn't implemented yet 10:01:17 <jonty-comp> that's OK 10:01:26 <jonty-comp> I'm just happy that you're doing it at all :D 10:01:36 <jonty-comp> this world needs more people future-proofing things 10:02:04 <Rubidium> later today I could start the test masterserver/updater, but that requires you to do some local modifications 10:02:31 <jonty-comp> well I have nothing in particular to do today 10:02:42 <jonty-comp> so if you want to use me as a crash test dummy feel free :p 10:03:16 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:52 <jonty-comp> oops, I seem to have made the map 2048x128 10:04:32 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 10:05:46 <petern> nice 10:06:31 <Xaroth> jonty-comp: should make a nice race track innit? 10:06:43 <jonty-comp> heh 10:08:08 <Rubidium> https://secure.openttd.org:444/test-www/en/servers <- the test master server's server list, but it's currently horribly out of date because the master server and updater aren't running 10:09:25 <Xaroth> m 10:09:27 <Xaroth> wiki is old 10:09:36 <Xaroth> network_data.h has been renamed i think 10:09:53 <Rubidium> the wiki w.r.t. the network protocol is totally out of date 10:10:13 <Xaroth> 'oh :/ 10:10:20 <Xaroth> more fiddling for me then 10:11:13 <Rubidium> Xaroth: take a look at openttdlib 10:11:32 <Xaroth> hm 10:11:34 <Rubidium> that's a php library that can query a server 10:11:52 <Xaroth> ooo 10:11:54 <Xaroth> cheers 10:11:57 <dihedral> enjoy 10:11:59 <dihedral> ^^ 10:12:03 <dihedral> openttdlib.dihedral.de 10:12:20 <jonty-comp> :o 10:12:22 <Xaroth> main fun will be to port that to C# :P 10:12:24 * jonty-comp also looks 10:12:54 <dihedral> you can port that to anything you like ;-) 10:12:55 <Xaroth> dihedral: aren't you also somewhat responsible for the autopilot thingie? 10:13:07 <dihedral> ap+ and avignon, yes 10:13:11 <Xaroth> thought so 10:13:38 <petern> is the new master server backward compatible? 10:13:46 <Xaroth> was fiddling with ottdcoop's autopilot thingie from the svn, managed to fubar it quite good :P 10:13:54 <petern> the session key changes looked somewhat different... 10:14:00 <Rubidium> petern: yes 10:14:04 <Xaroth> so started googling, and noticed your name a few million times 10:14:16 <dihedral> Xaroth, svn.openttdcoop.org/tools/autopilot/branches/ap+ 10:14:25 <jonty-comp> hmm, now I need some more IPs 10:14:37 * jonty-comp asks orudge for a gazillion IPs 10:14:43 <Xaroth> dihedral: aye 10:15:03 <Xaroth> i tried the main autopilot branch, but since some things have changed in the console output (i think) it went nutters with the irc plugin 10:15:06 <petern> http://homepage.eircom.net/~sbarrett/flanker/Enter%20sandman.jpg 10:15:06 <petern> heh 10:16:01 <Xaroth> nice one petern 10:16:13 <Xaroth> would put it as desktop if it'd fit :p 10:16:26 <dihedral> petern, NICE 10:17:08 <jonty-comp> that is... impressively awesome. 10:18:00 <dihedral> Xaroth, the original autopilot has not been touched in ages 10:18:17 <dihedral> the author simply does not have the time anymore 10:18:30 <jonty-comp> well, it's quite awesome as it is 10:18:37 <dihedral> ap+ will not have any new stuff to it either anymore, as we are working on a complete rewrite 10:18:50 <dihedral> http://codecubes.org/wiki/Avignon 10:18:54 <jonty-comp> I meant to set it up the other day for messing-about purposes, but I got distracted when a pigeon flew into the window 10:19:43 <dihedral> ap+ allows you to do a few more things ;-) 10:20:06 <Xaroth> hm 10:20:09 * Xaroth adds to todo list 10:20:52 <dihedral> avignon is not yet usable ;-) 10:22:33 <Rubidium> neither is IPv6 in OpenTTD yet ;) 10:22:45 <Xaroth> dihedral: impressive code. 10:25:51 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has joined #openttd 10:26:01 <EoD> hi 10:27:03 <petern> your lack of rdns disturbs me 10:27:16 <EoD> ? 10:27:28 <petern> your lack of rdns disturbs me 10:28:25 <dihedral> ^^ 10:29:17 <EoD> hmmm, net. has rdns.. Maybe i should update it when i have some time left 10:29:58 <EoD> and 2001:6f8:1022:0:cafe::2 has rdns 10:30:06 <petern> host 2a02:cb0:3:3::3 10:30:26 <petern> (in theory) 10:30:36 <EoD> uk.binaries.openttd.org ? 10:30:52 <petern> quite so 10:30:53 <jonty-comp> grr, lighttpd seems unable to bind to a specific IP for some reason 10:30:55 <petern> so my rdns works 10:31:01 <petern> jonty-comp, you're doing it wrong :D 10:31:17 <jonty-comp> quite possibly 10:31:33 <jonty-comp> http://forum.lighttpd.net/topic/64647 <-- that one 10:33:21 <EoD> has anyone tried [2001:6f8:1022:0:cafe::2]:3980 already? 10:33:38 <petern> not me 10:33:44 <petern> my ipv6 is not connected yet 10:34:00 <jonty-comp> EoD: I spent a good hour trying to figure it all out 10:34:17 * jonty-comp connects to EoD's server, for his is laggy and he doesn't know whether it's his VPS or his tunnel that's causing it 10:34:29 <EoD> it doesn't work? 10:34:46 <EoD> i could try another computer/tunnel if you want to 10:34:49 <jonty-comp> I haven't started it yet D: 10:35:00 <jonty-comp> I started my own ipv6 server, but it's somewhat laggy 10:35:04 <jonty-comp> it's probably freenet6 10:35:18 <EoD> sixxs ;) 10:35:31 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:35:38 <EoD> i have a computer which has native ipv6 if you think it's my tunnel 10:35:51 <jonty-comp> newgrf mismatch D: 10:36:08 <jonty-comp> should I just download the whole of bananas? :p 10:36:15 <EoD> yeah ;) 10:36:33 <EoD> one moment, i'll remove some of the newgrf's 10:36:34 <Gekz> wtf is bananana 10:36:38 <Gekz> bananas* 10:36:43 <jonty-comp> content download system 10:37:28 <jonty-comp> I'm in now 10:37:33 <jonty-comp> 2.08MB map! :o 10:38:49 <Gekz> oh bananas is cool! 10:40:30 <EoD> petern: Do you want to join, too? ;) 10:40:44 <petern> no 10:41:45 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 10:41:59 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc404-17.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:08:07 <EoD> dbg: [net] Connecting to 2001:4ca0:4f03:1:224:8cff:fe3e:73a0:3979 (IPv4) 11:08:17 <EoD> interesting... a very interesting ipv4 ;) 11:08:47 <EoD> dbg: [net] 'EoD' made an error and has been disconnected. Reason: 'received strange packet' - also very interesting?? 11:10:35 <EoD> on the second try, it worked fine 11:12:28 <jonty-comp> oops, forgot to see what company I was 11:12:30 <jonty-comp> oh well 11:12:35 <jonty-comp> third 'unnamed company' : 11:12:37 <jonty-comp> :P 11:15:20 <EoD> :-D 11:15:41 <EoD> connection lost? 11:15:45 <jonty-comp> yes 11:15:55 <EoD> how so? 11:15:59 <jonty-comp> I dunno 11:16:01 <jonty-comp> it just died 11:17:15 <jonty-comp> I know what company number I am now though :D 11:18:02 <EoD> 5 11:19:44 <EoD> afk 11:20:22 <dihedral> EoD: i have seen 'received strange packet' a few times 11:20:32 <dihedral> which country are you connecting from / to? 11:21:50 <petern> country? 11:28:24 <dihedral> hmmm 11:28:27 <EoD> i'm connecting through demuc02.sixxs.net 11:28:35 <dihedral> i saw it about 10 times and each time it was a connection from SA ^^ 11:28:46 <petern> so the same person? :p 11:28:51 <dihedral> nope it was not 11:29:11 <petern> bah, my server keeps picking up auto assigned ipv6 address :/ 11:29:13 <dihedral> and it only happened the first time they connected 11:30:13 <EoD> i never had this with ipv4 11:30:28 <jonty-comp> I have seen it perhaps once before 11:30:53 <EoD> i had it on every ipv6 server so far 11:31:15 <jonty-comp> it could just be the tunnels causing confusion 11:31:19 <jonty-comp> or something else 11:31:52 <EoD> may someelse start an ipv6 server for testing? 11:32:01 <jonty-comp> I have one 11:32:11 <petern> well, it's WIP, no one said it would work, or is finished ;p 11:32:17 <jonty-comp> at 2001:1af8:fe2e:110::1 11:32:21 <EoD> port? 11:32:26 <jonty-comp> whatever it normally is 11:32:32 <jonty-comp> 3979? I can't remember 11:32:33 <petern> 3979 11:32:50 <jonty-comp> it's not doing anything at the moment though 11:32:53 <jonty-comp> it's just running :p 11:32:57 <Noldo> :) 11:32:58 <jonty-comp> I should stick some AIs on it 11:32:58 <dihedral> ... 11:33:08 <EoD> have a look at your logs 11:33:23 *** Skalle [~daniel@c-f682e253.189-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 11:33:25 <jonty-comp> dbg: [net] Client connected from [2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] on frame 181560 11:33:27 <EoD> petern: yes, that why someone need s to do the testing/debugging ;) 11:33:28 <jonty-comp> dbg: [net] Closed client connection 4 11:33:38 <Skalle> would anyone have any idea why I'd get a segfault when trying to "find servers"? (a number of servers show up in the list half a second before the segfault though) 11:34:01 <EoD> Skalle: Did you compile it yourself? DId you make a "make clean" before compiling? 11:34:25 <EoD> jonty-compy: nothing else? no strange packets? 11:34:43 <dihedral> ha! the root of all evil: did you compile it yourself :-P 11:34:52 <EoD> jonty-comp: NewGRF mismatch 11:35:22 <jonty-comp> ah 11:35:25 <Skalle> I did not compile it myself; I downloaded it yesterday using apt-get in ubuntu: I played single player a little yesterday, and it worked 11:35:28 <jonty-comp> they should all be from bananas again 11:35:29 <jonty-comp> I think 11:35:47 <jonty-comp> there's av8, and ukrs, and egrvts and generic trams I think 11:35:51 <jonty-comp> and some other crap 11:35:59 <jonty-comp> not that they are crap 11:36:26 <dihedral> Skalle, which version / revision? 11:36:59 <jonty-comp> oh wait, it's nars, not ukrs 11:37:11 <EoD> jonty-comp: I have everything from bananas 11:37:27 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:39 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:37:43 <jonty-comp> hmm 11:37:44 <Skalle> it only says 0.6.0 so I guess that's the one 11:37:50 <jonty-comp> perhaps it's a different version 11:37:53 <dihedral> that is a pretty old version 11:38:13 <Skalle> maybe I should compile it myself then 11:38:27 <dihedral> you just need to fetch a newer version 11:38:45 <dihedral> http://www.openttd.org/en/download-stable 11:38:54 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@212.99.255.41] has joined #openttd 11:38:59 <Skalle> I'll try it, thanks 11:39:31 <petern> i'd guess one of the debian packages should work 11:40:30 <jonty-comp> EoD: try now 11:40:33 *** glx [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f5d1:a44d:67c7:1ffb] has joined #openttd 11:40:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:41:37 <jonty-comp> bah 11:41:39 <EoD> newgrf mismatch 11:41:48 <EoD> is you banans up to date? 11:41:49 <dihedral> then find out which ones they are 11:42:01 <Rubidium> EoD: IPv6 isn't meant to be working all okay and correctly at the moment 11:42:12 <jonty-comp> I'll just remove all the ones I know might be out of date 11:42:20 <dihedral> bananas lets you download older versions if you have the id etc. 11:42:21 <EoD> i've to leave now cafeteria closes at 2pm and i need about half an hour to get there 11:42:22 <jonty-comp> now it only has egrvts and av8 11:42:27 <jonty-comp> oh, heh, OK 11:42:30 <dihedral> i.e. connecting to a server should not be a prob 11:42:37 <EoD> Rubidium: Yeah, that's why i thought you could need some support testing it :) 11:42:40 <Rubidium> EoD: don't bother, you won't make it 11:42:48 <EoD> i will ;) 11:42:50 <EoD> bye bye 11:43:00 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009040606]] 11:49:07 <petern> heh 11:49:16 <petern> was that a flounce? 11:51:50 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has joined #openttd 11:57:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15980 /trunk/src/network/core/address.cpp: -Codechange: don't try to bind to the same socket twice; it's quite pointless. 12:09:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15981 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.cpp core/address.h network.cpp): -Fix: don't print the address family when writing the IP+port to the config file. 12:10:56 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:20:17 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1CEAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:24:26 *** Ridayah [~ridayah@173-19-228-175.client.mchsi.com] has joined #openttd 12:24:28 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.61] has joined #openttd 12:25:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C1C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:28 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 12:28:26 <dihedral> ping 12:30:13 <jonty-comp> -!- no PONG reply in 60 seconds, disconnecting 12:39:29 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:39:50 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:50 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 12:39:51 *** ctibor [~ctibor@12-23-80-78.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:48:25 <jonty-comp> hmm, so our school claims to go through JANET 12:49:21 <Gekz> wtf is JANET 12:49:31 <jonty-comp> internet infrastructure 12:49:33 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:4ca0:4f03:1:224:8cff:fe3e:73a0] has joined #openttd 12:49:40 <jonty-comp> for UK colleges and schools 12:49:58 <EoD> hi 12:50:03 * jonty-comp shall bug the network admin about ipv6 12:50:10 <jonty-comp> but now, I must eat my lunch! 12:50:20 * jonty-comp bbiab 12:50:54 <dihedral> jonty-comp, what school? 12:50:57 <petern> janet used to be a superfast university only network 12:51:04 <petern> now everything else is just as fast, 12:51:05 <dihedral> or rather, which side of the school are you in 12:51:57 <dihedral> because as student / pupil - you can hardly bug anybody on the admin team ^^ 12:52:08 *** narc [~narc@86.104.40.152] has joined #openttd 12:52:18 <dihedral> all you can do is annoy, and that will have the opposite effect of what you are after ^^ 12:53:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15982 /trunk/src/ (46 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: use GetAddressAsString to get the name instead of passing the hostname and the IP into a string. 12:53:31 <EoD> dihedral: actually i am a student and i'm bothering the admin team every now and then :) 12:54:15 * dihedral remembers his time of being admin at colleges in oxford ^^ 12:54:53 <EoD> ^^ 12:55:50 <petern> when was that? 12:56:02 <dihedral> uh... 2004-2006 12:56:06 <petern> ah 12:56:19 <petern> after i stole an SS5 from them 12:56:38 <dihedral> which college? 12:56:43 <petern> dunno 12:56:45 <dihedral> or oucs 12:57:49 <dihedral> i specifically recall one student (at that time he was computer rep) and he tried to gable his way back into an on-campus room ^^ 12:57:59 <petern> heh 12:58:06 <petern> actually they were in a skip 12:58:13 <dihedral> (all students were at that time required to for one year live outside) 12:58:28 <petern> not much left by the time i got there, hence ended up with an ss5 12:58:39 <dihedral> he said, he'd only do computer-rep again for another year if they gave him a room in college ^^ 12:58:47 <dihedral> the answer came very quick 12:58:48 <dihedral> :-D 12:59:04 <dihedral> petern, when was that? 12:59:21 <petern> 2000-2001 12:59:28 * dihedral dreams of some very good pub lunches 12:59:40 <dihedral> radcliffe arms.... yumm 12:59:59 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 13:00:03 <petern> heh 13:00:13 <petern> i was just thinking "you should've said you were there" 13:00:21 <petern> then i remembered the timescales involved... 13:00:27 <dihedral> :-D 13:01:46 <dihedral> hehe - svn dump, original size: 2.5GB.... after filtering... 1.6GB :-D 13:01:47 <dihedral> ouch 13:01:49 <dihedral> ^^ 13:02:12 <dihedral> petern, i am really would love to know which college you visited :-P 13:02:24 <petern> i have no idea 13:02:31 <dihedral> maps.google.com ^^ 13:02:40 <dihedral> or maps.live.com :-D 13:02:41 <petern> i don't remember where it was 13:02:46 <petern> it was dark :p 13:02:53 <dihedral> pffft 13:03:01 <dihedral> recall any bus stops? 13:03:07 <dihedral> nah - forget it 13:03:18 <petern> i drove there, so no :p 13:03:22 <dihedral> pffft 13:03:26 <EoD> any street name you remember? 13:03:31 <dihedral> EoD, no 13:03:36 <dihedral> he does not ^^ 13:03:39 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Any other special object? 13:04:01 <petern> lol 13:04:01 <dihedral> SS5 :-P 13:04:08 <petern> yeah, a real shitter 13:04:34 <petern> still got it actually 13:04:41 <petern> somewhere 13:04:59 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CEAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:29 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va74c.v.pppool.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:09:50 <Belugas_Gone> hello 13:12:14 <welshdragon> Belugas_Gone: your wife not killed you yet then? 13:12:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:58 <Belugas_Gone> i sneaked in with chocolates :) 13:14:26 <welshdragon> hehe 13:14:35 <dihedral> ^^ 13:14:43 <dihedral> hello sir 13:14:49 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Beklugas 13:14:52 *** Beklugas is now known as Belugas 13:15:13 <dihedral> lol 13:15:20 <jonty-comp> dihedral: well they owe me a lot 13:15:22 <jonty-comp> :P 13:15:31 <dihedral> they never do 13:15:36 <jonty-comp> I found a virus that had infected a classroomfull of computers 13:15:50 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f050246037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:16:05 <welshdragon> jonty-comp: orly? 13:16:19 <jonty-comp> and my windows desktop broke in October and despite half the IT department having the same problem they have yet to do anything about it 13:16:27 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051148004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:16:27 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 13:16:33 <jonty-comp> I did bug them enough to give us optical mice in the sixth form area 13:17:04 <jonty-comp> we had these awful old ps/2 mice with balls full of fluff, but they had glued the little door shut so nobody could break them/clean them >_> 13:17:19 <dihedral> ^^ 13:17:30 <EoD> we got two phenom II (2.8ghz) last week 13:17:38 <dihedral> ipv6 is a bit more work 13:17:46 <jonty-comp> pfft 13:17:51 <jonty-comp> I will do it for them! 13:18:02 <jonty-comp> with my track record they can't turn down that offer 13:18:11 <EoD> don't you have native ipv6? 13:18:17 <jonty-comp> no 13:18:25 * dihedral loved it when students thought that high of themselves ^^ 13:18:42 <jonty-comp> I'm waiting for my present ISP to go bankrupt so I can switch to entanet, who do native ipv6 13:18:58 <EoD> lol 13:18:59 <jonty-comp> JANET might have native though, they're usually quite good at this sort of thing 13:19:09 <EoD> we have native ipv6 at all our universities in munich 13:19:21 <jonty-comp> of course if tiscali goes bust then they probably won't give us a mac code :/ 13:19:21 <EoD> actually a lot of NATs/Firewalls block IPv6 :-S 13:19:40 <EoD> jonty-comp: I'm waiting for my isp to get native ipv6 ;) 13:20:01 * petern wonders if entanet will peer 13:20:06 <jonty-comp> the only thing stopping it in the UK is BT >_> 13:20:16 <dihedral> HAHA 13:20:19 <dihedral> BT sucks :-P 13:20:22 <EoD> ^^ 13:20:29 <jonty-comp> there's a bug in the cisco routers apparently, and they haven't fixed it yet 13:20:42 <dihedral> eclipse internet gives you a subnet for free if you ask for one :-P 13:20:43 <jonty-comp> so some people might get it 13:20:52 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:20:52 <jonty-comp> eew eclipse 13:21:00 <dihedral> hehe 13:21:00 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:10 <dihedral> i did prefer them over a bunch of other isp's 13:21:13 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21:15 <jonty-comp> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/10/21cn_ipv6/ 13:21:17 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 13:21:30 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:22:16 <EoD> jonty-comp: all our switches are replaced at the moment. In a few month we have Gigabit (or maybe 10GB) ethernet everywhere 13:22:42 <petern> jonty-comp, only some of the cisco routers... 13:22:51 <petern> i just need 7204 firmware :s 13:23:14 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:23:32 <jonty-comp> petern: enough for them to officially not support it, though 13:26:23 *** AshKyd [~AshKyd@118.208.127.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:27:03 <petern> "not support" isn't the same as "won't work" :) 13:30:04 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:30:08 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has joined #openttd 13:31:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejf197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 13:32:01 <EoD> afk 13:32:08 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=39518&start=40&p=779405&view=show#p779405 <- oh my word! ^^ 13:32:46 <petern> leave him to it 13:32:59 * petern ponders another addition to the foe list 13:38:39 <dihedral> ... 13:38:48 <petern> hmm? 13:38:53 <dihedral> who? 13:38:56 <petern> him 13:39:02 <petern> obviously 13:39:34 <petern> um, yeah 13:39:40 <petern> pausing an mp3 stream is not that useful 13:41:11 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@212.99.255.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:26 <dihedral> HAHA :-P 13:42:28 <petern> meant to stop it 13:42:36 <petern> just confuses it when you unpause, heh 13:47:33 <dihedral> @seen Eddi* 13:47:33 <DorpsGek> dihedral: Eddi* could be Eddi|zuHause (4 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 37 minutes, and 24 seconds ago), Eddi|zuHause2 (7 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 39 minutes, and 49 seconds ago), Eddi|zuHause3 (35 weeks, 0 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 57 seconds ago), Eddi|zuHause4 (38 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 56 minutes, and 54 seconds ago), or Eddi|nichZuHause (44 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 1 minute, and 33 seconds ago) 13:47:54 <Xaroth> I bet it's the last one. 13:49:55 <Belugas> or all of them, in fact ^_^ 13:50:53 <petern> @more 13:50:53 <DorpsGek> petern: ago), spasm_ (4 days, 16 hours, 35 minutes, and 52 seconds ago), Felicitus (4 days, 17 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago), KenjiE20 (4 days, 21 hours, 34 minutes, and 7 seconds ago), rowney (4 days, 21 hours, 35 minutes, and 46 seconds ago), valhallasw (4 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes, and 24 seconds ago), TrueBrain (4 days, 21 hours, 55 minutes, and 4 seconds ago), frodsham (4 days, 22 hours, 1 minute, and 54 (40 more messages) 13:50:56 <petern> lol 13:51:01 <petern> still there 13:51:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc884.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:51:58 *** RvGaTe [~rvgate-de@f153047.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52:49 <Sacro> @more 13:52:49 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. 13:53:05 <Sacro> @more dihedral 13:53:05 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for dihedral 13:53:09 <Sacro> @more petern 13:53:09 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Error: Sorry, I can't find any mores for petern 13:53:12 <Sacro> hmm :( 13:53:27 <Forked> !cookie 13:53:29 <Forked> aw 13:53:31 <Forked> @cookie ? 13:53:38 * Forked stabs DorpsGek 13:53:58 *** RvGaTe [~rvgate-de@f153047.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:54:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.11] has joined #openttd 13:54:36 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.169.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58:06 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has joined #openttd 13:58:06 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest23 13:58:06 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 14:00:09 *** Guest23 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:02:32 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:4ca0:4f03:1:224:8cff:fe3e:73a0] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:15:19 *** Condac [~condac@s83-191-224-165.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:50 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:23:47 <Xaroth> I take it the text info in the server info packet is all ascii encoded? 14:24:34 <petern> UTF-8 14:24:47 <Xaroth> UTF8? hm 14:29:32 *** RvGaTe [~rvgate-de@f153047.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:31 *** RvGaTe [~rvgate-de@f153047.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:44 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 14:37:17 <Rubidium> jonty-comp: http://rbijker.net/openttd/register_thyself.diff <- should make your binary join the test master server 14:39:11 <jonty-comp> aha 14:39:21 * jonty-comp gets his cygwin out 14:39:59 <jonty-comp> ...which is broken 14:40:03 <petern> heh 14:40:09 * jonty-comp goes to find cygwin setup program 14:40:18 <jonty-comp> It would be easier if I were in linux, but I broke grub 14:40:38 <frosch123> use lilo 14:41:59 <glx> boot from the cd :) 14:42:25 *** Pikka [~PikkaBird@CPE-58-169-176-162.qld.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:42:38 <jonty-comp> is this on r15982? 14:42:55 <Forked> cygwin to compile for win32? 14:42:58 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:43:13 <jonty-comp> I'll just do it on the vps again 14:43:19 <jonty-comp> which I had somewhat forgotten about 14:43:19 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:26 <Forked> also what is this vps thing? :) 14:43:29 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-176-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:43:30 <Forked> "very private server"? =p 14:43:36 <Xaroth> Virtual 14:43:38 <Xaroth> not Very :P 14:43:44 <Forked> I'm dissapointed :) 14:43:55 <jonty-comp> Well, it compiles ridiculously fast 14:44:02 <jonty-comp> for a dual-cpu quad-core Xeon server :p 14:44:06 * jonty-comp slows the forums down a bit 14:44:08 <Xaroth> think VMWare ESX/VMWare Server and/or others 14:45:56 <jonty-comp> that said the load averages while compiling are still only 0.88 0.35 0.12 =) 14:46:12 <petern> not enough threads 14:46:21 <jonty-comp> how do I set more threads? 14:46:26 <petern> -j 14:46:32 <jonty-comp> I see 14:46:33 <petern> -j 8 limits to 8 14:46:38 <petern> but... 14:46:41 <petern> dual quad... 14:46:45 <Xaroth> har har 14:46:47 <Xaroth> 1 thread per core 14:46:48 <Xaroth> == win 14:46:49 <petern> just -j should do :) 14:46:50 <jonty-comp> well, it's finished now anyway 14:46:57 <petern> 2 per core is generally the norm 14:47:00 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:02 <lolman> 1 thread pre core +1 actually ;) 14:47:07 <petern> see 14:47:12 <petern> everyone says something different 14:47:31 <lolman> I always use -j5 for my quad ;) 14:47:36 <Xaroth> jonty-comp: you compiling directly on the host machine or something? 14:48:08 <jonty-comp> dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server 14:48:09 <jonty-comp> :o 14:48:23 <jonty-comp> it's there! 14:52:21 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@sp0563508.um.maine.edu] has joined #openttd 15:15:56 <Xaroth> in case anybody knows, the packets sent, their length indicator is that 1) with the 2 bytes for packet length included and 2) with the 2 bytes for packet type included ? 15:16:36 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db08baf.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:17:19 <petern> 2 bytes for size 15:17:22 <petern> 1 byte for type 15:17:41 <petern> length is the length of the whole packet 15:18:12 <Xaroth> er, yeh, my bad, cheers 15:18:32 <Rubidium> Xaroth: read src/network/core/udp.h 15:18:45 <Xaroth> had some old code floating about, but that was only calculating data length rather than packet length 15:19:39 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:20:21 <petern> mm, udp 15:20:23 <petern> dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server 15:20:23 <petern> dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server 15:20:23 <petern> dbg: [net] [udp] received new session key from master server 15:20:31 <petern> junk session keys! 15:20:52 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 15:21:25 <Xaroth> Rubidium: I kept looking at the wrong places for that info, cheers :) 15:23:24 <glx> petern: 3 IPs ? 15:23:33 <petern> 3 udp packets 15:23:52 <jonty-comp> I have two session keys 15:24:02 <petern> not so much of an exploit, as you have to know the port 15:24:03 <glx> two for me too 15:24:03 <jonty-comp> and two IPs, if that has any relation 15:24:29 <jonty-comp> except I told it to bind to the ipv6 one only 15:25:00 <jonty-comp> it does say it's also listening on 0.0.0.0 (ipv4) as well as the ipv6 address though 15:27:04 <Rubidium> the master socket binding needs some tweaking 15:27:30 <Rubidium> in 'client' mode it should bind to "any" and in 'server' mode it should bind to the server bind ip 15:28:48 <glx> jonty-comp: servers list shows only one IP 15:31:04 <Rubidium> still need a way to prevent duplicate servers (once via IPv4 and once via IPv6) in the in-game server list 15:31:25 *** Wolle [R4R@p57B0EDEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:21 <Rubidium> assuming you request the IPv4 addresses over IPv4 and the IPv6 addresses over IPv6 (i.e. two queries to the master server) 15:32:31 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:33:29 <dihedral> tada 15:38:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15983 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [MSU] -Codechange: store the IPv6 socket information in the database and make it possible to query on the IPv4 or IPv6 sockets. 15:43:32 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 15:43:36 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has joined #openttd 16:01:24 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:14 *** UFO64 [~jmurray@sp0563508.um.maine.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:08:15 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:00 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 16:16:50 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:51 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:21:38 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:47 *** Hirundo is now known as Swallow 16:23:54 *** ecke [~ecke@pc149-138.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 16:25:23 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:29:01 *** Swallow [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.8/2009032609]] 16:31:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:22 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:39:15 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host217-42-3-111.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:50:07 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host217-42-3-111.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:52:12 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va74c.v.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 16:54:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:55:01 *** ecke [~ecke@pc149-138.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 16:57:43 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:58:15 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has quit [Quit: quit] 17:07:12 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:07:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:15 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:26:53 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:30:52 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1C841.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:35:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CEAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:59 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:37:37 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:37:39 *** murr4y [murray@2001:470:1f0a:1be::42] has joined #openttd 17:42:50 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:42:56 <George> peternm Rubidium, glx: I have a question about future plans for OTTD development 17:43:29 <George> What are the probabilities to have new possibilities for RVs 17:44:19 <George> I mean ARVs overtake, realistic acceleration, RVs assembling (like trains) 17:44:46 <George> may be some other chnages? 17:49:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:49:00 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:03 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 17:51:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15984 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.cpp core/udp.h network_udp.cpp): -Codechange: prepare the UDP receiver to process multiple types of returned server lists. 17:53:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r15985 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:53:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-04-08 17:53:32 17:53:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 fixed by arnaullv (1) 17:53:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_US - 1 fixed by WhiteRabbit (1) 17:53:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: estonian - 1 changed by kristjans (1) 17:53:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: galician - 7 fixed by Condex (7) 17:53:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: malay - 2 fixed by tombakemas (2) 17:54:10 <Rubidium> George: maybe, maybe not... personally I'm not working on any of those things 17:54:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C841.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 17:54:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C841.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:14 <George> and do anybody do? Is it possible to know if some one has any plans about it? 17:58:21 <Rubidium> no; we didn't know michi_cc had a plan of coding another PBS until he came with the code 18:02:33 *** ecke [~ecke@host-77-236-193-57.blue4.cz] has joined #openttd 18:04:07 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejf197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 18:05:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15986 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/masterserver/ (handler.cpp main.cpp masterserver.h udp.cpp): [MSU] -Codechange: prepare the masterserver for multiple types of 'get server list' requests and replies. 18:20:42 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:32 <petern> stuff just happens, heh 18:26:44 *** Ammler [~ammler@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 18:28:31 *** EoD [~EoD@2001:a60:f066:0:215:afff:fe21:f032] has joined #openttd 18:28:42 <EoD> hi 18:28:57 * petern niveas up again 18:37:17 <EoD> dihedral , do you manage the AutoNightly openttd server? do you think you'll set up an ipv6 tunnel in the near future? 18:39:27 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:55 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:41:36 *** ecke [~ecke@host-77-236-193-57.blue4.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:42:10 <DJNekkid> what does this mean? i have never gotten it before... //!!Warning (172): Offset 5: A shift-and var-adjust would suffice here. 18:42:20 <petern> ask dalestan 18:42:39 <DaleStan> Ask the documentation. 18:42:45 <petern> :D 18:42:59 <planetmaker> lol 18:43:52 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: I played today with the newest 2cc and found an oddity. 18:45:02 <planetmaker> I had multiple passanger ICs running - which I then (rather accidentially) replaced by BigBoys 18:45:13 <planetmaker> which then turned all wagons in some orientations into ? 18:45:21 <planetmaker> into question marks 18:47:56 <Ammler> wrong number of waggons? 18:47:58 <planetmaker> just looked it up: detailed name: InterCity125 with 2cc MU PAX coach auto replaced by Big Boy 18:48:10 <planetmaker> For Big Boy?! 18:48:23 <planetmaker> And I don't think Big Boy is a MU train :P 18:48:24 <DaleStan> Hmm... If I'd written it now, I'd've mentioned that the most common reason for that message is that <div/mod> is zero or one, and <add> is zero. 18:48:26 <Ammler> I know that from DBSet 18:49:00 <planetmaker> so I wondered whether I should be able to do that replacement at all... 18:50:07 <planetmaker> but what really puzzled me was the fact that the wagons were fine in the horizontal view, but questionmarks when going along the grid lines of the map 18:50:48 <frosch123> planetmaker: likely you got the depotview sprites :) 18:51:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:12 <planetmaker> he :) that might be, yes. No idea :) 18:51:21 <planetmaker> Anyway I consider it a bug of the newgrf :) 18:51:30 <frosch123> me too :p 18:52:01 <planetmaker> he 18:57:02 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:02 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 19:00:35 <Ammler> if you can replace a engine to a engine of an other type, it would be a bug of autoreplace ;-) 19:01:20 <frosch123> hint: it is the purpose of autoreplace to replace an engine to an engine of an other type 19:07:27 <Ammler> (I meant, other category like big boy to mu 19:11:24 <fonsinchen> I'll create another "subproject" in the dev section of the wiki for cargo distribution 19:11:32 <fonsinchen> that forum entry is getting unwieldy 19:11:47 <fonsinchen> any objections? 19:13:32 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db08baf.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: gn8] 19:14:03 <planetmaker> DJNekkid: The alignment of the KZ2A is also off by quite a bit. 19:14:32 <planetmaker> especially in the train info window, but also in the build screen (at least when I attache coal (self discharge hoppers)) 19:17:42 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:00 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm208.psi148.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: slep] 19:23:51 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 19:28:14 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 19:28:38 <Muxy> Hello OpenTTD World ! 19:29:11 <Muxy> i have a question regarding client name string length 19:29:30 <Muxy> in a network multiplayer game of course 19:29:33 <Sacro> ask away,,, 19:30:15 <Muxy> what is max length of this item : client_name. there is a constant NETWORK_CLIENT_NAME_LENGTH defined to 25 19:30:42 <Muxy> but when sending client name across network the define NETWORK_NAME is used (80) 19:32:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:51 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:54 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 19:34:39 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:34:50 <Muxy> hum i found in the struct NetworkClientInfo my answer : it's defined to NETWORK_CLIENT_NAME_LENGTH 19:37:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15987 /trunk/src/network/ (network.cpp network_udp.cpp network_udp.h): -Fix: make the master socket only listen on the IP the server is bound to. 19:37:27 <Muxy> of course... 19:37:42 *** Muxy [~Muxy@smtp.bdelalande.net] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 19:37:59 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-17-160.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:39:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15988 /trunk/src/ (network/network_gui.cpp settings_type.h): -Fix: inconsistency between using NETWORK_NAME_LENGTH and NETWORK_CLIENT_NAME_LENGTH for the length of client names. 19:39:25 <frosch123> :) 19:47:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.160.162] has joined #openttd 19:47:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:01 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:55:06 *** [wito] [~wito@212251244230.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 20:02:50 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 20:03:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:12:40 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejf197.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 20:31:31 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Oi gameloser! What d'ya want? 20:32:41 <Sacro> :( 20:33:21 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: that's naaaaaaaasty 20:34:04 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc884.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:12 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5B0D5FB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:40:56 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 20:41:04 *** Yexo is now known as Guest69 20:41:04 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 20:43:20 <jonty-comp> Sacro: but nessecary. 20:43:35 <Prof_Frink> jonty-comp: Try again. 20:43:56 <jonty-comp> I always spell nessecary wrong 20:44:03 <jonty-comp> unless I spelt it right 20:44:13 <jonty-comp> PuTTY doesn't have a spell checker 20:45:00 <Prof_Frink> Use your brain. 20:45:56 <jonty-comp> but that went to bed after lunch :( 20:46:15 <Prof_Frink> Wake the lazy sod up. 20:46:34 <jonty-comp> I dunno, you don't want to see it when it's angry 20:47:42 *** Guest69 [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:26 <jonty-comp> hurr, 30 second compilation 20:50:33 <jonty-comp> that -j 8 worked quite well 20:55:46 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:18 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:59:09 <Sacro> i think when creative say "98 to XP, IE5.5+" 20:59:19 <Sacro> they also mean "IE7-" 21:01:18 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 21:03:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15989 /trunk/src/network/ (network.cpp network_udp.cpp): -Fix (r15987: segfault due to uninitialised sockets. 21:07:16 <TrueBrain> pompiedom 21:08:06 <jonty-comp> poppadom 21:08:13 <TrueBrain> no, the correct reply is: lalala 21:08:16 <TrueBrain> learn that 21:08:18 <TrueBrain> it is important 21:08:26 <jonty-comp> lalala 21:08:31 <TrueBrain> good boy 21:08:43 <jonty-comp> how hauum-esque 21:11:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15990 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.cpp core/address.h network_udp.cpp): -Codechange: provide a thread safe variant of GetAddressAsString. 21:11:37 <Belugas> night night night 21:12:27 <Rubidium> night Belugas 21:13:25 <TrueBrain> night Belugas :) 21:13:55 <EoD> n8 21:14:12 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: you trained him well.. only took you a minute :P 21:14:12 <Prof_Frink> neight? 21:14:31 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: some people, I won't tell their names (petern), never learn :( 21:14:35 <TrueBrain> very annoying ;) 21:14:38 <Xaroth> lol 21:14:58 <Xaroth> right, time to see if this works 21:15:15 <TrueBrain> being send back and forward by leaseweb .. how lovely :) I love people who can read my emails ... :p 21:15:16 <TrueBrain> lalala :) 21:15:34 <jonty-comp> poppadom 21:15:36 <TrueBrain> forgetting the word 'new' in a javascript can cause nasty errors :) 21:15:57 <Xaroth> leaseweb, hm, rings a bell 21:16:17 <TrueBrain> in general, they are nice :) 21:16:26 <Xaroth> think they also have servers in the datacenter we're at 21:16:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15991 /trunk/src/network/network_gamelist.cpp: -Fix: don't add 0.0.0.0/:: to the server list; you can't connect to them in any case 21:16:38 <TrueBrain> if you are in Evo, you can't miss them :p 21:16:42 <Xaroth> yer we area 21:16:54 <TrueBrain> then you should not 'think' that .. you should hav enoticed more than once :p 21:17:06 <TrueBrain> they arrange the tech-support for Evo :p 21:17:13 <Xaroth> I really don't pay attention when running around evo :P 21:17:24 <TrueBrain> when you enter, you at least see 3 times the words: LEASEWEB 21:17:36 <Xaroth> you do? 21:17:40 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:17:42 <TrueBrain> next time, pay attention ;) :p 21:17:42 <Xaroth> hm, must check that out some time 21:17:48 <TrueBrain> check shirts of personal ;) 21:17:50 <TrueBrain> personel 21:17:51 <TrueBrain> lol 21:17:56 <Xaroth> they read EvoSwitch ... 21:18:01 <Xaroth> nice blue shirts etc :P 21:18:08 <TrueBrain> and also the words: LeaseWeb :p 21:18:10 <TrueBrain> in red :) 21:18:16 <TrueBrain> well .. word 21:18:17 <TrueBrain> ghehe 21:18:21 <Xaroth> hm 21:18:24 <Xaroth> never noticed 21:18:29 <Xaroth> then again, i don't pay attention :P 21:18:48 <Xaroth> me being in the datacenter is those moments that you don't want to, but your job requires you to 21:18:58 <TrueBrain> I know that problem :) 21:19:01 <TrueBrain> I run myself around there too :p 21:19:23 <Xaroth> i just pick random aisles(sp?) in our room until i see the wikipedia logos 21:19:28 <Xaroth> seeing our servers are right next to those 21:19:36 <Xaroth> and we don't have our logos up yet 21:20:09 <TrueBrain> I like running up and down the racks .. lights going on and off :) 21:20:12 <TrueBrain> just love doing that :p 21:20:15 <TrueBrain> can't help myself :) 21:20:15 <Xaroth> heh 21:20:59 <Xaroth> i'm long glad there's locks on the racks 21:21:14 <TrueBrain> which DC wouldn't have locks on their rack?! 21:21:27 <Xaroth> our last datacenter had separate rooms 21:21:31 <Rubidium> someone here with IPv6 and a big endian machine? 21:21:37 <Xaroth> so didn't need locks on racks 21:22:13 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: fair enough :) 21:22:25 <Xaroth> :) 21:23:05 <TrueBrain> reminds me .. this Saturday I have to go down there again .... 21:23:10 <Xaroth> saturday? 21:23:14 <Xaroth> why not week-days :P 21:23:27 <TrueBrain> because there will be downtime 21:23:31 <Xaroth> ugh 21:23:31 <TrueBrain> and companies dislike that somehow :p 21:23:36 <jonty-comp> Rubidium: if I knew what big-endian meant, I might be able to give you an answer 21:23:36 <Xaroth> yeh 21:23:38 <Xaroth> bastards tbh 21:23:39 * jonty-comp looks it up 21:23:49 <TrueBrain> so .. you schedule it outside office hours .. and I dislike going at night :p 21:23:50 <Xaroth> well we did move all our servers on a thursday evening 21:23:56 <Xaroth> from.. 20:00 to 06:00 :/ 21:24:00 <TrueBrain> blegh 21:24:07 <Xaroth> nice 10 hour server-moving shift 21:24:10 <Xaroth> after a nice 9 hour work day 21:24:12 <Xaroth> lovely. 21:24:35 <TrueBrain> when we moved to Evo I had about the same :p It doesn't even matter how much servers you move ... you take 10 hours to move shit :( 21:24:43 <Xaroth> yep 21:24:49 <Xaroth> well actually it took us 5 dyas 21:24:49 <TrueBrain> well, I was done at 0400 :) 21:24:54 <Xaroth> but that was due to ESX moving etc 21:24:59 <Xaroth> i absolutely love that stuff 21:25:05 <Rubidium> jonty-comp: do you have an x86/amd64 based computer? If so, then you've got little endian 21:25:09 <TrueBrain> Deploying ESXi saturday ;) :p 21:25:21 <Xaroth> heh 21:25:23 <Rubidium> jonty-comp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness <- for if you're really interesting 21:25:33 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: BE is out-dated :p 21:25:44 <Xaroth> we have 2 nice big ESX machines that took over for 6 old 'normal' ESX machines for this move 21:25:57 <Xaroth> separate vlan arranged from SARA to evo 21:26:11 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 21:26:13 <Xaroth> so we could move stuff with just 5 minutes downtime per instance 21:26:52 <jonty-comp> oh, so a brand new Xeon isn't going to be big-endian then 21:26:55 <jonty-comp> Rubidium: reading it now 21:27:01 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: LOL! No, not really :) 21:27:04 <TrueBrain> BE is dead :) 21:27:09 <TrueBrain> even Apple threw it away :) 21:27:20 <jonty-comp> admittedly a lot of it is gibberish, but I file that kind of thing and make sense of it in a few years :P 21:28:02 <TrueBrain> wow, what an unclear article .. 21:28:21 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:00 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Endianessmap.svg <- the only important thing about endian :) 21:30:03 <Xaroth> jonty-comp: Basically it means how it stores bytes of data 21:30:07 <Xaroth> one goes left-to-right 21:30:10 <Xaroth> other right-to-left 21:30:15 <jonty-comp> I see 21:30:18 <jonty-comp> well, ish 21:30:23 <Sacro> Rubidium: I might be able to get ipv6 and BE 21:30:26 <Xaroth> obviously you can't read something left-to-right if it's written right-to-left 21:30:31 <Xaroth> that would make no sense 21:30:43 <TrueBrain> and no way is better than the other ... it is just nice if we all pick one :) 21:30:49 <TrueBrain> strangly enough .. network transfer is BE :p 21:30:51 <Xaroth> yep 21:31:03 <Xaroth> then again 21:31:22 <Xaroth> IT is all about 500000 different 'standards' for the same damn thing 21:31:27 <Rubidium> Sacro: check whether you can the IPs in the server list with http://rbijker.net/openttd/register.diff are the same as on https://secure.openttd.org:444/test-www/en/servers 21:31:36 <jonty-comp> anyway, I should be around for more crash test dummying tomorrow 21:31:38 <TrueBrain> and they think they all do better ... 21:31:45 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: in cars? :) 21:32:08 <Rubidium> and whether you can host a server and someone else can connect to it via the server list 21:32:08 <jonty-comp> yes 21:32:11 <jonty-comp> lalala 21:32:15 <TrueBrain> pompiedom 21:32:23 <jonty-comp> polly put the kettle on 21:32:25 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: I hope you don't sit in those cars ;) 21:32:35 <jonty-comp> well, I can learn to drive now (!) 21:32:45 <Xaroth> good luck :P 21:32:45 <jonty-comp> but I hopefully won't be doing much crashing 21:32:49 <TrueBrain> you turned 18? 21:32:52 <jonty-comp> I don't normally break things! 21:32:54 <jonty-comp> 17 21:33:00 <TrueBrain> MWHAHAHAHAHA 21:33:01 <TrueBrain> young person :p 21:33:03 <Xaroth> not dutch then :P 21:33:07 <TrueBrain> clearly ;) 21:33:09 <jonty-comp> I feel old :( 21:33:13 <Xaroth> pff 21:33:16 <TrueBrain> when you get my age, you may feel old 21:33:22 <TrueBrain> when you get Belugas's age, you are old 21:33:22 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: 18? :P 21:33:27 <jonty-comp> I'm past my prime! 21:33:38 <Xaroth> 17 IS a prime. 21:33:38 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: I wish :) 21:33:42 <TrueBrain> lol! :) 21:33:47 <jonty-comp> Xaroth: damn. 21:33:51 <Xaroth> har har 21:34:12 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:37 *** Kojiri [~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:40 <jonty-comp> although I must start working for these exams soon 21:35:02 <jonty-comp> computing A-level is rather annoying, they made me learn visual basic :( 21:35:09 <Xaroth> LOL 21:35:16 <TrueBrain> does that language still EXIST? 21:35:20 <Xaroth> my teacher tried to teach me vb.net 21:35:20 <jonty-comp> I only see it as a stepping stone to C# or C++ though 21:35:38 <Xaroth> after 4 minutes i convinced him he sucked at vb.net and he should learn C# instead 21:35:42 * jonty-comp learns FORTRAN 21:35:49 <TrueBrain> FORTRAN? Lol! 21:35:52 <Kojiri> LOL! 21:35:56 <TrueBrain> every variable starting with 'i' is integer 21:35:58 <TrueBrain> how COOL! :) 21:36:04 <jonty-comp> iPod 21:36:07 <Xaroth> lol 21:36:17 <jonty-comp> that sounds quite sensible actually 21:36:31 <TrueBrain> important_string = 1 21:36:35 <TrueBrain> no, doesn't make sense :p 21:36:45 <Xaroth> simportant_string 21:36:45 <jonty-comp> well, the coder would have to be sensible too :P 21:36:49 <jonty-comp> exactly 21:36:56 <jonty-comp> would work for someone making a sims game 21:36:56 <Xaroth> sounds bad tbh 21:37:07 <jonty-comp> well you aren't making a speech out of it 21:37:22 <Xaroth> would be fun if you were working with different integer types... 21:37:31 <Sacro> Rubidium: I don't have access right now, but there are a couple of SPARC boxen in the house 21:37:40 <jonty-comp> limportant_number 21:37:40 <TrueBrain> IN THA HOUZE! 21:37:46 <jonty-comp> dimportant_number? 21:37:49 <Sacro> Sparcstation 10 and 20 21:37:55 <Xaroth> jonty-comp: uint16, uint32, uint64 ? 21:37:58 <Sacro> 3 (i think) apple ][s 21:38:14 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:14 <Xaroth> using long and double won't suffice with unsigned variants :p 21:38:23 <jonty-comp> An apple ][ running openttd... 21:38:53 <TrueBrain> I AM HUNGRY! 21:39:08 <jonty-comp> Sacro: it may take about a century to compile on a sparcstation :o 21:39:15 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: go get some then? 21:39:25 <TrueBrain> haven't anything at home ... 21:39:26 <Kojiri> I like apples. 21:39:29 <TrueBrain> and .. stores are closed :( 21:39:31 <Kojiri> Loo loo loo 21:39:38 <jonty-comp> there's a couple of old Sparcstations under one of the tables in IT at school 21:39:39 <TrueBrain> Soarma ... hmm .. needs I need to take my bike .. 21:39:44 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: location? 21:39:49 <TrueBrain> Leiden 21:39:50 <jonty-comp> I think they use them as examples of 'computers from the past' 21:39:50 <Kojiri> GORDON FREEMAN! 21:39:51 <EoD> i have a ultrasparc IIe 21:39:52 <Xaroth> ah 21:39:55 <Xaroth> well that explains it then 21:39:58 <TrueBrain> why? 21:40:20 <Xaroth> no koopavond :) 21:40:27 <TrueBrain> it is 23:37 ... 21:40:30 <jonty-comp> you don't have 24h stores? muahahaha 21:40:38 <EoD> A SPARC is big-endian, isn't it? 21:40:40 <Xaroth> erg, yeh, it is 21:40:40 <TrueBrain> jonty-comp: we have; but I don't hve the money :p 21:40:50 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: drivein? 21:40:59 <TrueBrain> long bike ride .. (15 minutes) 21:41:02 <Xaroth> ah 21:41:12 <Xaroth> ... drive in by bike?!? 21:41:26 <TrueBrain> never did it?! :) 21:41:28 <Kojiri> YOu can drive a bike? 21:41:31 <Xaroth> er, no 21:41:33 <Kojiri> I thought you rode them. 21:41:34 <TrueBrain> try it :) 21:41:37 <Kojiri> HOw? 21:41:37 <TrueBrain> they look so stupid at you :p 21:41:39 <Xaroth> closest drivein is around an hour away by bike 21:41:41 <Kojiri> Explain to me this magic. 21:41:48 <Xaroth> .. 15 min by car... 10 with my speed. 21:42:00 <Kojiri> Fast mo fo right here Xaroth 21:42:00 <TrueBrain> in Leiden everything is at 15 min distance 21:42:05 <TrueBrain> no matter where I wan to go :p 21:42:07 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:23 <Xaroth> Kojiri: no, i just know where the radar posts are :) 21:42:33 <TrueBrain> I tihnk there is some timespace bubble around this place :s 21:42:38 <Kojiri> Haha nice 21:42:40 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 21:42:40 <Kojiri> ASL 21:42:47 <TrueBrain> no thank you 21:42:49 <Xaroth> lol 21:42:54 <Kojiri> No to Xaroth 21:42:56 <TrueBrain> (this is not a pick-up channel :p) 21:42:59 <Xaroth> 23, Uithoorn 21:43:01 <Kojiri> Haha No I know 21:43:04 <Kojiri> I'm just new to IRC 21:43:08 <TinoDidriksen> A genuine ASL...dear gods. 21:43:08 <Kojiri> I have no idea what to talk abouit 21:43:09 <TrueBrain> clearly :) 21:43:11 <Kojiri> about^^ 21:43:11 <TrueBrain> you talk like MSN :p 21:43:15 <Kojiri> AIM 21:43:17 <Kojiri> Haha 21:43:21 <TrueBrain> I think it is the frst ASL request in this channel in fact ... 21:43:32 <Kojiri> Wow, you really have no life do you? 21:43:42 <TrueBrain> says the person who just said: ASL :p 21:43:43 <Xaroth> me or tb? :P 21:43:47 <Kojiri> Tb 21:43:53 <TinoDidriksen> ASL is the bottom of the pits of the darkest regions of chatting... 21:44:00 <TrueBrain> I agree TinoDidriksen 21:44:04 <Kojiri> You guys ever hear of Bash.org? 21:44:08 <Xaroth> ... 21:44:12 <TinoDidriksen> Obviously 21:44:14 <Kojiri> Tell me you have 21:44:15 <TrueBrain> Kojiri: can you spell it? 21:44:26 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@p54972849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:44:29 <Kojiri> it? 21:44:31 <Xaroth> Kojiri: tell me you're kidding? 21:44:33 <Kojiri> Eye Tea 21:44:37 <Roujin> cheers 21:44:47 <TrueBrain> hmm 21:44:49 <TrueBrain> yea 21:44:50 <TrueBrain> tea 21:44:59 <Kojiri> I've read so much on bash, and wanted to experience it in real life. 21:45:01 <Xaroth> bash is so 20th century 21:45:12 <TrueBrain> 'real life', he says on IRC :) 21:45:16 <Kojiri> ....me kicking your ass is so 20th century. 21:45:22 <TrueBrain> I like this guy already ;) 21:45:22 <Kojiri> Just kidding 21:45:31 <Kojiri> Word ^_^ 21:45:35 <TrueBrain> Excel! 21:45:41 <Kojiri> Of course! 21:45:41 <Xaroth> Powerpoint! 21:45:47 <TrueBrain> Xaroth wins 21:45:49 <Kojiri> I get it.. 21:45:53 <Kojiri> Yes 21:45:58 <Kojiri> *bows down* 21:46:06 <Roujin> I have to say BaNaNaS is getting a little crowded lately 21:46:17 <TrueBrain> Roujin: so we need a redesign sooner or later 21:46:19 <TrueBrain> feel up to it? :) 21:46:38 <Xaroth> right 21:46:42 <Xaroth> enough chitchat 21:46:45 <Kojiri> Yes to black rights! 21:46:47 <Xaroth> time to get this query thing to work 21:46:52 <Roujin> I could make a patch for category choosers.. you mean something like that with "redesign"? 21:46:53 <TrueBrain> which? :p 21:47:03 <TrueBrain> Roujin: no, I mean redesign the website :) 21:47:05 <EoD> jonty-comp: did you ask about a big endian machine before? 21:47:08 <TrueBrain> better placement of things :) 21:47:19 <Kojiri> Do you smile that much in real life TB? 21:47:24 <Xaroth> EoD: Rubidium did i think 21:47:24 <Kojiri> Like...Offline? 21:47:30 <Kojiri> Or does that not exist where you come from? 21:47:36 <TrueBrain> Kojiri: I am a very happy person, yes :) 21:47:41 <Kojiri> That's good. 21:47:44 <Kojiri> I suppose. 21:47:47 <TrueBrain> Belugas finds me annoying :) 21:47:48 <Xaroth> Kojiri: be glad he's not over-using 'lol' ... 21:47:48 <EoD> Rubidium: I have an UltraSPARC IIe. iirc this is a big endian machine. 21:48:03 <Kojiri> Hah! I agree 21:48:08 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: I know this girl which says 'lol' in real life all the time ... 21:48:13 <TrueBrain> very .. weird .. 21:48:18 <Xaroth> meh 21:48:18 <Kojiri> TB: that's rough 21:48:25 <Roujin> TrueBrain: nah, not my .. area of expertise 21:48:26 <Xaroth> in dutch 'lol' isn't a wierd word 21:48:33 <TinoDidriksen> Offline/Online...they're just media of communication. I wish people would get over it...it's been here for 20 years; no need to still treat it as something different than the phone or radio. 21:48:33 <TrueBrain> nope 21:48:43 <Xaroth> but yeh 21:48:45 <Xaroth> it's wierd 21:48:55 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: normal people call it 'reallife', yes :p 21:49:04 <Kojiri> I'm normal! 21:49:07 <TinoDidriksen> Ha 21:49:08 <Kojiri> GORDON FREEMAN 21:49:09 <TrueBrain> You sure? 21:49:18 <Xaroth> The cake is a lie 21:49:21 <Kojiri> Do your nuts hang low? DO they wobble to and frow? 21:49:30 <TrueBrain> Kojiri: don't push it 21:49:32 <Kojiri> I love Portal. 21:49:36 <TinoDidriksen> Kojiri, lay off the drugs... 21:49:36 <Roujin> TrueBrain: but what do you think about category choosers for the ingame content download window? 21:49:43 <Kojiri> Actually, I quit last month. 21:49:47 <TrueBrain> Roujin: Rubidium's department :) 21:49:50 <Kojiri> My dad found my stash X( 21:49:54 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:56 <Xaroth> sucks to be you then 21:50:00 <Kojiri> Yes indeed 21:50:02 <TrueBrain> a 16 year old who gets off drugs 21:50:04 <TrueBrain> should be hard 21:50:22 <Kojiri> What are you guys like...30? 21:50:27 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:50:32 <Xaroth> 23, i just told you 21:50:44 <Kojiri> Oh yeah! 21:50:45 <TrueBrain> I guess right, the 16 year value? :) 21:50:46 <Kojiri> Forgot. 21:50:47 <fonsinchen> cargodist updated: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=41992 21:51:13 <Xaroth> and i'm dutch, kids don't get hooked on drugs here -that- easily 21:51:14 <Kojiri> Well, I'm going to search for quote for bash...catch you fuckers later 21:51:15 *** Kojiri [~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has left #openttd [] 21:51:24 <TinoDidriksen> ...colorful figure. 21:51:24 <TrueBrain> euh, how did he just called us? 21:51:35 <Xaroth> he seriously needs to lay of the dope... 21:51:50 <TrueBrain> I guess it is better for him not to join back in the next few minutes :) 21:52:01 <Xaroth> better for him, not for us 21:52:03 <Xaroth> for us it'd be fun 21:52:08 <TrueBrain> much fun :) 21:53:11 <TinoDidriksen> So he's basically trolling any active IRC channel he can find for bash.org fodder...at least beats making up quote from thin air. 21:53:22 <TrueBrain> true :) 21:53:58 <TrueBrain> for that he gets a bit of credit 21:54:00 <TrueBrain> just a bit :) 21:54:07 *** Kojiri [~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 21:54:16 <TrueBrain> oeh, look who is back 21:54:19 <Kojiri> I'm back.. 21:54:26 <TrueBrain> the smell gave you away 21:54:30 <Kojiri> I found nothing but the crocodile hunters soul 21:54:32 * Xaroth grins 21:54:32 <TinoDidriksen> Liberate me ex inferis... 21:54:38 <Xaroth> so, who's doing the countdown? 21:54:44 <TrueBrain> either way, Kojiri, how did you call us when leaving?! 21:54:48 <Kojiri> What it is with these channels and Debians? 21:55:05 <Xaroth> I'm more of an ubuntu user, really 21:55:08 <Kojiri> Can I get a Debian and Hotdog please? 21:55:30 <Roujin> hahaha... not. 21:55:45 <fonsinchen> No Debian available, but I'll send you the hotdog 21:55:45 <Kojiri> Hey, where can you get Ubuntu? My BOCES instructor was supposed to get us a copy. 21:55:50 <fonsinchen> post your address please 21:55:53 <TinoDidriksen> Google 21:56:06 <Xaroth> .... G.. too late 21:56:14 <Kojiri> I figured you would help me out, but never miinddd 21:56:31 <Kojiri> Mustard and ketchup on the hotdog? 21:56:33 <TrueBrain> I am serious wondering if he only copy/pastes things from bash, or that he can type himself too 21:56:44 <Kojiri> I read bash religiously. 21:56:48 <Kojiri> I find it very funny 21:56:52 <Kojiri> I'm writing a book. 21:56:53 <SmatZ> maybe it's a bot? 21:57:01 <Kojiri> Maybe. 21:57:03 <TinoDidriksen> Helping noobs is ok. Helping noobs who obviously didn't do their homework or Google it first - not ok. 21:57:15 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: don't use google as verb 21:57:20 <TrueBrain> they say it is not allowed to do so 21:57:26 <Kojiri> .... 21:57:29 <Kojiri> wow. 21:57:30 <TrueBrain> (ghehe :)) 21:57:30 <Xaroth> in times like that, you just say 21:57:33 <Xaroth> absum turpis bestia 21:57:37 <Kojiri> Yep 21:57:42 <Kojiri> When in Rome.. 21:57:56 <Rubidium> EoD: can you set up an IPv6 server with http://rbijker.net/openttd/register.diff that registers on that big endian machine? 21:58:29 <Xaroth> Kojiri: no, it was a response to Tino. 21:59:03 <TrueBrain> he seriously things they speak Latin in Rome? 21:59:07 <TrueBrain> from which age is he? 21:59:20 <SmatZ> 73 BC 21:59:27 <TrueBrain> would be my guess too 21:59:36 <TrueBrain> well, I Guess 72 21:59:37 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: depends on whether the Vatican is in Rome 21:59:39 <TrueBrain> but close enough :) 21:59:40 <SmatZ> :) 21:59:41 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: nope 22:00:33 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:00:34 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:37 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 22:00:42 <TrueBrain> well, it is funny that people in the Vatican can play OpenTTD in their 'native' language ;) 22:01:42 <SmatZ> Kojiri: shame on you @ #gcc 22:02:28 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: did you try konqueror for me? 22:03:06 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: it works! 22:03:07 <SmatZ> :o) 22:03:11 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: YEAH! :) 22:03:24 <SmatZ> great :) 22:03:27 <TrueBrain> yup :) 22:03:33 <TrueBrain> now it works on all browsers I tested it on :) 22:03:47 <SmatZ> "Error: Server Error (1): :Negative indexing is not supported." hehe :) 22:03:50 <TrueBrain> (which covers 90% of our openttd.org visitors) 22:03:55 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: it does contain bugs, yes ;) :p 22:04:03 <TrueBrain> oeh, 95% :) 22:04:29 <SmatZ> should I test links without JS? ;) 22:04:38 <TrueBrain> it really really needs JS :) 22:05:02 <SmatZ> how many % does konqueror have? 22:05:19 <TrueBrain> http://stats.openttd.org/awstats/awstats.index.browserdetail.html 22:05:20 <SmatZ> I was quite surprised it has problems, it had rather high score in ACID tests... 22:05:41 <TrueBrain> req = XMLHttpRequest() -> req = new XMLHttpRequest() 22:05:43 <TrueBrain> it is the details :p 22:05:52 <SmatZ> :) 22:06:02 <TrueBrain> 0.5% is konqueror :) 22:06:20 <Kojiri> Hey guys, I have a question 22:07:23 <SmatZ> Windows Media Player (media player) No 1 22:07:35 <SmatZ> you can browse web in it? 22:07:43 <TrueBrain> you can open URLs with it :p 22:07:52 <TrueBrain> I guess your movie :p 22:08:02 <Kojiri> You smile a lot 22:08:08 <TrueBrain> we already covered that 22:08:12 <Kojiri> That's putting it mildly.. 22:08:23 <Kojiri> No no, I know...Just making sure you still know. 22:08:26 <TrueBrain> you are asking for a kick; that is not put mildly 22:08:32 <Xaroth> WMP uses IE5+ as rendering thing 22:08:42 <Kojiri> I thought you were happy.. 22:08:45 <Xaroth> at least, last time i checked 22:09:01 <Kojiri> Happy person.. 22:09:03 <Kojiri> Happy LIAR 22:09:12 <TrueBrain> @kick Kojiri Kojiri.annoyance_level > 1 22:09:12 *** Kojiri was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Kojiri.annoyance_level > 1] 22:09:17 *** Kojiri [~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #openttd 22:09:25 <Xaroth> he shoots, he scores 22:09:28 <Xaroth> and the crowd goes wild 22:09:30 <Kojiri> FUCK YOU! 22:09:33 *** Kojiri [~KojiriTsu@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] has left #openttd [] 22:09:39 <Xaroth> lol 22:09:45 <Xaroth> Kojiri.dope_level++; 22:09:52 <TrueBrain> @mode +b *!*@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net 22:09:55 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*@h69-128-228-96.wndsny.dsl.dynamic.tds.net] by DorpsGek 22:09:57 <TrueBrain> "die zien we nooit meer, terug" 22:09:59 <Forked> ..what the 22:10:00 <Xaroth> haha 22:10:06 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.61] has joined #openttd 22:10:13 <TrueBrain> Forked: can you try that website of yesterday again please, in both IE7 and IE8? :) 22:10:18 <TrueBrain> make sure I didn't fuck up :( 22:10:24 <Forked> TrueBrain: I'm not at work :\ 22:10:28 <TrueBrain> too bad :) 22:10:31 <TrueBrain> when ever you have the time :) 22:10:40 <Forked> tuesday... 22:11:02 <TrueBrain> you work 1 day in the week? :) 22:11:09 <Forked> no, but easter 22:11:13 <TrueBrain> ah, yes yes :) 22:11:20 <TrueBrain> oh well ... when I need it by then I will ask :) 22:11:56 <TrueBrain> tnx anyway :) 22:12:36 <Forked> hm, on second thought 22:12:42 <Forked> all hail the mighty VPN 22:12:47 <TrueBrain> lol :) 22:12:58 <Forked> maybe I can disconnect DJNekkid as well :) 22:13:16 <DJNekkid> dissconnect me?? 22:13:21 * Forked whistles 22:14:07 <Forked> TrueBrain: ie7: it seems to work.. no errors and it will even let me change things 22:14:14 <TrueBrain> cool :) 22:14:36 <Forked> now for the all mighty rdp in the rdp in the vpn 22:15:40 <Xaroth> hah, enjoy 22:17:49 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: I made a change; can you see if Konqueror is still okay? 22:18:20 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: Gaga!] 22:18:32 <TinoDidriksen> VBox ftw...all browsers easily within reach. 22:19:07 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: looks fine 22:19:17 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: thank you :) 22:19:23 <TrueBrain> TinoDidriksen: I still need to create that, yes :) 22:19:23 <SmatZ> :o) 22:19:28 <TrueBrain> wish I could install OSX ... 22:20:04 <TinoDidriksen> Safari is available for Windows, or did you mean in general? 22:20:12 <TrueBrain> general 22:20:18 <TrueBrain> and Safari on Windows is slightly different I guess :) 22:20:25 <TrueBrain> can you install IE8 next to IE7 on windows? 22:20:49 <Xaroth> not normally, but it should be doable 22:21:05 <Xaroth> more easy if you run xp64 22:21:06 <TrueBrain> would be nice to have a VM which has all IEs next to eachother :) 22:21:19 <Xaroth> you just have IE7x64 and IE8x32 22:21:25 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:21:31 <TinoDidriksen> You can also get OS X running in VMWare, with some fiddling. 22:21:59 <TrueBrain> I have ESXi .. failed so far all my attempts :) 22:22:01 <TinoDidriksen> If your CPU is recent enough, anyway. 22:22:08 <Xaroth> or you could just get a mac and use VMWare Fusion :P 22:22:15 <Forked> DJNekkid: I would never disconnect you, sir :) 22:22:24 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: yeah ... you give me the money? :) 22:22:30 <Xaroth> er, ask my boss :P 22:22:36 <DJNekkid> sie even 22:22:40 <DJNekkid> sie even*sir 22:22:56 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: he also has a job for me? :p 22:23:02 <Xaroth> actually 22:23:08 <Xaroth> we were looking for more people :P 22:23:13 <Xaroth> but we're in Mijdrecht 22:23:16 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5F9E6.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:23:22 <Xaroth> not sure if that's drivable on a daily basis 22:23:30 <svip> Why are there so many named Tino? 22:23:39 <svip> Maybe I worry about the wrong things. 22:23:48 <TinoDidriksen> So many? There's me. 22:23:48 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: I am still a student, but I need a parttime job :p 22:23:56 <svip> There was that TinoM, TinoDidriksen. 22:23:56 <TrueBrain> just too darn lazy to look for one :) 22:24:08 <svip> And my goodness is Didriksen a Danish surname. 22:24:20 <svip> And not one of those trivial ones like "Jensen". 22:24:29 <TinoDidriksen> Indeed it is. I am Danish. 22:24:35 <Forked> works both in .dk and .no 22:24:39 <Forked> Jensen and Didriksen 22:24:42 <svip> .no is totally a copy. 22:24:49 <Xaroth> TB: depends if you like to do more supportdesk related work then 22:24:56 <TinoDidriksen> My full name is unique. 22:24:57 <Forked> we saw your denmark and raised you ..some mountains :D 22:25:06 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: I am a problem-solver guy .. and not that good with people :p 22:25:06 <svip> Norwegian is pretty much a fork of Danish. 22:25:15 <Xaroth> sounds like me then :P 22:25:19 <TrueBrain> :) 22:25:28 <svip> Danes talk with potatoes in their mouth, Forked. 22:25:43 <Xaroth> google McNolia , nooit geschoten etc. 22:25:45 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:25:48 <Forked> it might sound like it.. but I checked a few and I didn't see abnormal anything down there 22:25:58 <svip> Okay okay. 22:26:00 <TrueBrain> hehe, tnx Xaroth :) 22:26:01 <svip> I kid I kid. 22:26:04 <svip> We eat potatoes, Forked. 22:26:11 <Forked> barbarians! 22:26:15 <svip> And we don't talk while eating them. 22:26:17 <svip> We have manners. 22:26:24 <svip> We are closer to France, after all. 22:26:30 <SmatZ> ewww manners :-x 22:26:36 <Forked> so you're better with ze women too eh? 22:26:49 <svip> I cannot guarantee that. 22:26:50 <Xaroth> on a bonus side you got experience with the datacenter we're using :P 22:26:57 <TrueBrain> Xaroth: ghehe :) 22:27:03 <TrueBrain> I love the 'biometric' scanner of Evo .. 22:27:07 <TrueBrain> offline for what .. 3 months now? :p 22:27:09 <Xaroth> which is broken 22:27:15 <TrueBrain> it never really worked anyway :p 22:27:37 <Xaroth> heh 22:28:02 <svip> But, Forked, the real issue is not whether we sound like potatoes, because Danish sounds very unlike any other language. 22:28:15 <svip> Well, except Dutch, and even Dutch sounds far fetched to me. 22:28:19 <TrueBrain> bah, 0025 .. I should get some sleep ... 22:28:20 <svip> No offence to the Dutchies in here. 22:28:22 <TrueBrain> night all :) 22:28:24 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 22:28:30 <Xaroth> Dutch seems to sound a bit like german 22:28:32 <Xaroth> ... they say 22:28:34 <Xaroth> nn TB 22:28:43 <svip> A bit like German mixed with English. 22:28:46 <svip> That's what they say. 22:29:23 *** phidah [~phidah@0x5733a2bb.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 22:29:28 <TinoDidriksen> Dutch is more a mix of English, Danish, German...impossible to comprehend via listening, but not so bad to read. 22:29:40 <svip> Tell me about it. 22:29:42 <Xaroth> Dutch is just wierd, period :P 22:29:44 <svip> I had some Dutch people over. 22:29:48 <svip> I understood nothing. 22:29:53 <svip> But then they spoke English. 22:30:05 <svip> And Dutch has intrigued me, so I wish to learn it. 22:30:11 <Xaroth> poor you 22:30:21 <svip> Don't worry, it is far down my list. 22:30:25 <svip> Still gotta learn Estonian first. 22:30:29 <Xaroth> keep one thing in mind 22:30:34 <Xaroth> we're surrounded by the french and the german 22:30:40 <Xaroth> neither of which were willing to learn dutch 22:30:44 <Xaroth> so the dutch learned their language 22:30:53 <svip> I realise as much. 22:30:58 <Xaroth> so if you know any of those two, you'll be fine 22:31:00 <Xaroth> .. or english 22:31:04 <svip> But keep the Dutch flag waving. 22:31:14 <svip> And speaking your tongue when you want to annoy some Frenchies or Germans. 22:31:21 <Xaroth> not for another 3 weeks :) 22:31:24 <Xaroth> queens day ftw 22:31:25 <svip> :O 22:31:39 <svip> The queen has a day? 22:31:40 <Xaroth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koninginnedag 22:32:21 <svip> You wouldn't be so happy if you didn't have a democracy, but an actual monarchy. 22:32:38 <svip> Aaah, look at those tiny Dutch flags. 22:32:47 <svip> First flag in the history to be tricolour. 22:32:52 <svip> Very fascinating stuff. 22:33:18 <Xaroth> heh 22:33:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C841.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:19 <svip> It's true, Xaroth. 22:34:23 <svip> The Scottish flag was the first flag. 22:34:28 <svip> That is, to be used as such. 22:37:31 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has left #openttd [] 22:37:33 <TinoDidriksen> Danish flag is the oldest...if you're talking about flags in general, then Ancient Egypt and China has us all beat. 22:41:20 <Xaroth> woot 22:41:27 <Xaroth> it can receive data :o 22:42:11 <Xaroth> now to parse, and disect :o 22:44:40 *** taisteluorava [~orava@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:35 *** fonsinchen [~alve@Va74c.v.pppool.de] has left #openttd [] 22:47:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:26 <svip> TinoDidriksen: The Danish flag is the oldest state flag. 22:56:25 <Rubidium> and the bit flag is the easiest to store 23:00:15 <Xaroth> hm 23:00:22 <Xaroth> C# doesn't have implicit fallthrough :/ 23:00:52 <Sacro> Xaroth: nope 23:01:04 <Sacro> I still <3 it though 23:01:26 <Xaroth> yeh 23:01:31 <Xaroth> easily overcome apparently 23:01:33 <Xaroth> goto case 3; 23:01:48 <Sacro> oh no >< 23:01:55 <Sacro> OPS, REMOVE HIM 23:02:04 <Xaroth> apparently the case items count as labels 23:02:19 <Xaroth> using goto is fail though :/ 23:03:45 <Sacro> yes ;_:; 23:03:46 <Sacro> er 23:03:48 <Sacro> ;_; 23:05:06 <Xaroth> in this case a few if's would work 23:05:16 <Xaroth> yes, pun intended 23:08:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.168.10] has joined #openttd 23:10:05 <TinoDidriksen> Hm, C# is rather inconsistent. If there's no fallthrough, why require a break? And, empty cases do fallthrough...mixed signals all over. 23:12:56 *** sigmund [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:14:45 *** sigmund_ [~sigmund@91.80-202-245.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:37 <Xaroth> yeh 23:17:39 <Xaroth> but it works 23:17:47 <Xaroth> and i got the server response thing parsed 23:17:49 <Xaroth> which was my aim 23:18:12 <Xaroth> custom autoupdater etc. 23:18:20 <EoD> TinoDidriksen: C# is microsoft, what do you expect? ;) 23:18:31 <Xaroth> EoD has a point :P 23:18:37 <TinoDidriksen> True true... 23:22:24 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22:48 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:23:42 <Xaroth> hm 23:24:00 <Xaroth> the revisions past 0.7.0 have 0.8.0 as major/minor ? 23:24:06 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24:21 <Sacro> yup 23:26:27 *** OwenS [~Akiramena@host217-42-3-111.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28:02 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f050246037.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:31:07 <Xaroth> right, another step closer, woo 23:31:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15992 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/shared/mysql.cpp: [MSU] -Fix (r15127): stack corruption causing NewGRF names to be not resolved. 23:33:43 *** Roujin_ [~chatzilla@p549729FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:38:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-17-160.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:21 *** Roujin [~chatzilla@p54972849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39:25 *** Roujin_ is now known as Roujin 23:41:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15993 /trunk/src/network/ (core/address.h core/os_abstraction.h network_udp.cpp): -Codechange: clean up/generalise the handling of the server list 23:44:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15994 /extra/masterserver_updater/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [MSU] -Codechange: implement most of the master server side for fetching a list of IPv6 servers. 23:51:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r15995 /extra/masterserver_updater/docs/mysql-database-structure.sql: [MSU] -Fix: typo in the database structure SQL 23:56:40 *** Skalle [~daniel@c-f682e253.189-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: leaving]