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[~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:55:14 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 07:58:08 <[wito]> one minor gripe about the mac os x build 07:58:46 <[wito]> configuration files should really be in ~/Library/Preferences; and content_download in ~/Library/Application Support/OpenTTD/ 07:58:59 <[wito]> jus' sayin' 08:02:21 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:23 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 08:03:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff885.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 08:06:25 <petern> [wito], feel free to implement that cleanly... 08:09:52 <[wito]> :P 08:10:13 <[wito]> isn't there already an ./configure switch for doing stuff like that? 08:13:28 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:13:28 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13:32 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 08:22:57 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228018155.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:24:05 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:38:03 <petern> not split up like that, as far as i know 08:43:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:00:19 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 09:20:35 *** racetrack [~racetrack@c114-76-16-69.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:23:48 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23:55 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 09:28:59 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30:03 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 09:30:14 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:33:36 <dihedral> hello :-) 09:41:12 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm171.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:43:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 09:44:40 <dihedral> "my speeling might be wrong there" <- HAHA 09:44:56 <Noldo> hi dih 09:45:03 <dihedral> hello Noldo 09:50:31 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@wnn72112.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #openttd 09:52:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:59:33 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:40 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 10:06:16 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:06:35 <z-MaTRiX> heil-o 10:09:53 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:54 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 10:10:41 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.209.142] has joined 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you need him 11:30:05 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@77.17.8.221.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined #openttd 11:30:14 <Forked> hah 11:30:17 <Forked> woop there he is 11:30:51 * Eddi|zuHause praises Forked's summoning skills 11:31:43 <Forked> where is that winning lottery ticket when I need it.. 11:33:16 <DJNekkid> am i needed? 11:33:42 <TrueBrain> that is suprising, not? 11:34:01 <petern> TrueBrain, English only. 11:34:19 <Noldo> petern is going ln 11:34:28 <TrueBrain> yeah .. and I am considering a kick for that :p 11:34:34 <TrueBrain> petern: really, it can be annoying :) 11:36:00 <TrueBrain> oeh, I know the solution 11:36:02 <TrueBrain> @op 11:36:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 11:36:16 *** TrueBrain changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.7.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only | No Language Police 11:36:18 <TrueBrain> @deop 11:36:21 *** mode/#openttd [-o TrueBrain] by DorpsGek 11:36:25 <Noldo> nice 11:36:36 <TrueBrain> and we all know the topic is always right :) 11:37:31 <Ammler> hmm, "English only | No Language Police" 11:37:40 <TrueBrain> you catched on on that? :) 11:37:50 <Ammler> :-) 11:40:57 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs2.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:16 <petern> caught 11:43:48 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has left #openttd [enough is enough] 11:44:53 <Eddi|zuHause> "208936+13 records in 208936+13 records out" <- what does the "+13" mean in dd's output? 11:46:06 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.9.230.4] has joined #openttd 11:47:47 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:55 <insulfrog> hi all 11:52:49 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.162.158] has joined #openttd 11:54:03 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5428:9f6:47bb:704f] has joined 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Even though I tell the Makefile explicitly to use g++, I still get those errors. http://paste.openttd.org/182788 <-- gcc/g++ versions + Makefile.local 17:32:59 <glx> ha mac 17:33:52 <glx> enable verbose output and check the faulty line 17:34:09 <planetmaker> --verbose=1, right? 17:35:31 <glx> hmm V:=1 IIRC 17:36:33 <glx> ifndef V 17:36:33 <glx> V=0 # verbose build default off 17:36:33 <glx> endif 17:36:41 <glx> yep make V:=1 17:36:49 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 17:38:12 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 17:39:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.176.111] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:39:57 *** Mark [~Mark@5351EC68.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.176.111] has joined #openttd 17:41:48 <planetmaker> glx: thanks. The result is such: http://paste.openttd.org/182789 17:42:44 <planetmaker> and MANY consecutive errors, but they usually don't count... 17:42:45 <glx> looks like dep phase 17:43:27 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 17:43:36 <planetmaker> hm... yeah, something's different. the same worked this morning on my linux box... 17:44:11 <glx> hmm no it's the compile phase 17:45:18 <planetmaker> difference is g++ 4.3.1 (SuSE Linux) vs. this one g++ 4.0.1 (apple darwin) 17:52:36 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55:12 <fonsinchen> I don't get the logic of those resize flags for widgets. 17:56:17 <fonsinchen> I want 3 widgets horizontally aligned: widget 1 shouldn't resize, widget 2 should resize horizontally, as well as widget 3. What flags should I set? 17:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: translators * r16282 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt german.txt spanish.txt): 17:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-05-12 17:55:59 17:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: czech - 10 fixed by Hadez (10) 17:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: german - 13 changed by planetmaker (13) 17:56:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: spanish - 11 fixed by eusebio (11) 17:57:12 *** thingwath [~thingwath@213.211.49.188] has joined #openttd 17:58:43 <glx> fonsinchen: you can't do it magically with flags for now 18:01:07 *** SHRIKEE [~shrikee@84-105-52-246.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #openttd 18:01:18 <fonsinchen> so, what can I do? 18:01:59 <fonsinchen> I mean, the buttons at the bottom of the station gui window behave similar to that. Why does it work there but not at the top of the same window? 18:02:30 <insulfrog> brb 18:02:31 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.19.191.141] has quit [Quit: hi] 18:03:32 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:04:18 <frosch123> fonsinchen: take a look at OnResize or so 18:04:29 <glx> yes it uses ResizeButtons() 18:05:10 <fonsinchen> wtf??!? 18:05:19 <fonsinchen> OK, it won't resize then ... 18:07:00 <fonsinchen> thanks for the hint. 18:11:22 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.19.191.141] has joined #openttd 18:12:56 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:07 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:02 <petern> heh 18:16:11 <petern> isn't the new gui stuff supposed to automatically resize? 18:18:47 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 18:18:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 18:19:40 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb543.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:53 <Alberth> petern: patience, patience 18:20:23 <petern> I CANNOT TEACH HIM THE BOY HAS NO PATIENCE 18:20:26 *** davis` [~iloveme@p5B28F19F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:31 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:54 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:31:50 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:43 *** thingwath [~thingwath@213.211.49.188] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 18:37:02 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 18:45:32 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 18:45:38 <z-MaTRiX> heil-o 18:46:10 <insulfrog> hi 18:48:44 <Alberth> hai 18:50:53 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. Please, take care of them!] 19:00:02 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:00:41 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:01 *** Quarks [~name@dslb-088-074-107-045.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:34 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:01:37 *** Quarks [~name@dslb-092-078-242-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:04:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:11:09 *** sdfw [~ok@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:42 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:23 *** SpBot [~spbot@spbot.qmsk.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:03 <kkb110> hi 21:28:08 <kkb110> I think I just found a bug 21:28:20 <SmatZ> "found"? 21:28:24 <kkb110> about town growrate 21:28:28 <kkb110> 've found 21:28:36 <SmatZ> oh noes :-x 21:29:03 <kkb110> you know, more active stations, more town growth rate should be there 21:29:10 <kkb110> http://svn.openttd.org/trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp 21:29:15 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 21:29:17 <kkb110> in function static void UpdateTownGrowRate(Town *t) 21:29:26 <kkb110> see this 21:29:27 <kkb110> static const uint16 _grow_count_values[2][6] = { { 120, 120, 120, 100, 80, 60 }, // Fund new buildings has been activated { 320, 420, 300, 220, 160, 100 } // Normal values }; 21:29:53 <kkb110> 320, 420, 300, 220, 160, 100 <- 420 should be some value between 320 and 300 21:30:57 <SmatZ> looks odd 21:31:10 <kkb110> this code means, n= active station number within 20 days. n=0 -> 320 n=1 -> 420 n=2 ->300 n=3->220 n=4->160 n=5->100 21:31:28 <kkb110> so.. one active station is worse than 0 active station. does not make sense 21:31:41 <kkb110> I guess it's mistyping or something 21:31:47 <SmatZ> well 21:31:55 <SmatZ> 210, 150, 110, 80, 50 21:31:59 <SmatZ> from ottd 0.1 21:32:06 <SmatZ> so someone multiplied those values by two 21:32:09 <SmatZ> and added 320 21:32:12 <SmatZ> for some reason 21:32:23 <kkb110> hm... 21:32:38 <SmatZ> nah 21:32:45 <SmatZ> if (n == 0) { 21:32:45 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28F335.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 21:32:47 <SmatZ> m = 160; 21:32:48 <SmatZ> so... 21:32:55 <Yexo> revision 9613 21:33:02 <SmatZ> it really is TTD-like values * 2 21:33:09 <SmatZ> @openttd revision 9613 21:33:15 <SmatZ> quick Yexo 8-) 21:33:16 <SmatZ> ... 21:33:21 <SmatZ> bah, double fail by me :-x 21:33:36 <Yexo> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/ad53226c2027 21:34:41 <kkb110> i see 21:34:44 <Yexo> SmatZ: your copy-paste is incomplete, the line after "m = 160;", was "if (!CHANCE16(1, 12)) 21:34:44 <Yexo> return" 21:34:48 <SmatZ> I would believe it behaces the same as in TTD... 21:35:05 <SmatZ> Yexo: yeah, I didn't want to flood it here :) and I wanted to show 320 == 2*160 ;) 21:35:44 <Yexo> ok (and actually, that line is still there) 21:37:18 <frosch123> yeah, looks like 320 < 420 is intentional and no bug 21:37:42 <frosch123> as the 320 is more like a 3840 :) 21:38:02 <Yexo> indeed 21:38:32 <SmatZ> :o) 21:39:35 <kkb110> thank you and sorry :D 21:40:31 <kkb110> yeah 12*320.. now I understand... 21:42:18 <kkb110> btw, I can't agree on that growth formula.. one airport can't equal to one bus station lol 21:42:51 <SmatZ> it's unrealistic, hey? 21:43:18 <kkb110> yeah. really unrealistic. 21:43:37 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs7.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 21:43:42 <kkb110> no matter what how many passengers use.. no matter what size the station is 21:43:44 <Yexo> kkb110: so is a bus station that is serviced by 1 bus per month equal to bus station servicing 10 busses a month? 21:43:56 <SmatZ> but apart from that, OTTD is pretty realistic, right? :-p 21:44:16 <Yexo> and how to compare a 2x5 trainstation with a 5x2 trainstation? Are they equal? What if one of them has 2 times as much trains? 21:44:39 <SmatZ> Yexo, the new Belugas ;) 21:44:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:44:42 <Yexo> this is all just to show you there is no proper way to base the growth formula on sizes of stations 21:45:26 <kkb110> hm.... but I think there can be at least better than what now we have... 21:46:10 <kkb110> if I were a developer. I think I would use total transfered passenger+mail 21:46:15 <SmatZ> complex behaviour can be descibed by simple formulas 21:46:35 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:35 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 21:46:52 <kkb110> actually, I love that in game. just build 5 bus statoins and one bus to make town grow quickly. how cheap lol 21:48:05 <SmatZ> quite so lol 21:48:36 <SmatZ> sorry, I'm in a good mood today :) 21:48:55 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:15 *** ctibor__ [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:53:33 <kkb110> and about.. realistic.. 21:54:11 <kkb110> of course some part of the game is pretty nice... but there is some part which isn't lol 21:54:24 <kkb110> like say 21:54:39 <kkb110> a bus to go 10 block away station takes one day 21:54:50 <kkb110> within 1 city 21:55:04 <kkb110> I would say. 10 tile not a block 21:55:55 <kkb110> and airport can be built within 0.1 second lol 21:56:14 <Yexo> it would be pretty annoying when fixing rails if every click takes a month to complete 21:56:32 <Yexo> OpenTTD is not a simulator, it's a game 21:56:44 <kkb110> yes you are right.... just I felt strange ... lol 21:59:31 <kkb110> but I think some efforts to become realistic is good attempt like cargo destination 22:00:01 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 22:01:32 <oskari89> Daylength patch should be taken to trunk too. 22:01:47 <oskari89> It would make things more realistic. 22:02:07 <Aali> it was nice knowing you 22:02:09 * frosch123 misses belugas :( 22:02:12 <Aali> or, not knowing you 22:02:34 <Aali> but now you have to die 22:02:43 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:03:12 <SmatZ> frosch123: hehe same here :) 22:03:23 <SmatZ> where is Belugas when you one needs him... 22:03:45 <SmatZ> -you :-x 22:04:52 * SmatZ wasn't that succesful as Forked was today :-x 22:05:17 * Chruker wishes he could textcopy an error message from the AI Debug window 22:05:18 <fjb> Before changing any timing all the lengths would have to be unified. That would require a map that is at least 10 times bigger. Of course all vehicles, buildings etc. would have to be redrawn. 22:05:55 <Ammler> Chruker: don't you have the same output on the console? 22:06:34 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 22:07:03 <Chruker> Only when I went through the tutorial :-) 22:12:23 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 22:12:23 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:12 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:36 <Chruker> grr. I cant remember today... are there any kind of restrictions on what you can do in a AIAbstractList valuator function? Like creating variables or calling functions? 22:15:11 <Yexo> you can't call any api functions that issue a DoCommand 22:15:22 <Yexo> ie no api functions that build something / change something on the map 22:15:46 <Yexo> if you want that, you need to create your own valuator function in squirrel (examples are posted in the forums) 22:17:51 <Chruker> I cant seem to get this one working: http://paste.openttd.org/182791 22:18:39 <Chruker> It bugs out on line saying that the index GetPossibleLevelHeights doesnt exists 22:18:46 <Chruker> on line 8* 22:19:26 *** dvo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:31 <Yexo> is GetPossibleLevelHeights a member function? 22:19:47 <Yexo> otherwise try to add :: before GetPossibleLevelHeights 22:19:54 <Yexo> so ::GetPossibleLevelHeights(NorthTile..... 22:20:57 <fjb> When there are 2 industries next to each other, which one takes the cargo? 22:21:07 <Yexo> the one closest to the station 22:21:20 <Yexo> most norther industry tile vs station label tile I think 22:22:31 <fjb> Ok. And when that one stops accepting the cargo (caused by stockpiling), does the other one get the cargo then? 22:22:44 <Yexo> yes 22:22:51 <fjb> Nice. 22:23:27 <Eddi|zuHause> that's really going to be a problem with FIRS 22:23:59 <fjb> Maybe FIRS gets stockpiling in the second release. 22:24:32 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: why is it going to be a problem with FIRS? 22:24:59 <fjb> FIRS doesn't have stockpiling. 22:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause> because FIRS will not stop accepting cargos 22:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but limit conversion rate 22:25:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so you have to balance through multiple industries, but the cargo won't do it by itself 22:26:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FDA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27:10 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-24-144-96.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 22:28:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16286 /trunk/src/statusbar_gui.cpp: -Change: make the scrolling ticker RTL/LTR aware (scroll in different directions) 22:30:20 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:34 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16287 /trunk/src/ (company_cmd.cpp openttd.cpp): -Fix: fix possible (in theory) desync related to autorenew settings 22:43:22 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:59 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:42 <Chruker> I fear this bug is payback for not using the scheme from the tutorial with putting functions outside the class... 22:57:14 <Yexo> no, that doesn't matter 22:57:37 <Yexo> but inside the valutuor function your scope is gone 23:03:53 <fjb> Are bridge grfs broken? TBRS shows the green marker, I get TBRS bridges in the selection box, but only original bridges get build. 23:04:44 <Ammler> fjb: orders as always :-) 23:04:54 <fjb> I started the game in 1851. 23:05:25 <Ammler> or that :-) 23:05:32 <fjb> Hm, how must it be ordered now? I habe the bridge set at the same place in the grf list as usual. 23:06:01 <fjb> TBRS has bridges that early. And they show up in the selection box. 23:06:17 <Ammler> well, it might be also the year. 23:07:11 <fjb> Last gane I started that early had working TBRS bridges. 23:07:32 <frosch123> I changed something the day before yesterday because ammler complained :p 23:07:51 <Yexo> I just started a new game (in r16254) with TBRS and it works fine (it's the only newgrf) 23:08:03 <Chruker> Adding ChrukerAI. (the classname) does 'move' the error point further down the road to other user functions. I'll just stick with calling the function later in the build function. 23:08:32 <Yexo> Chruker: I'll be happy to have a look if you upload the code somewher 23:08:32 <Ammler> just tested with nightly and it is fine 23:08:36 <frosch123> yes, I also have a road viaduct in 1650 23:08:46 <Yexo> or send it to me via forum pm /mail 23:08:53 <fjb> I'm having r16283 here. 23:09:18 <Ammler> frosch123: you made my oldbridge obsolete? 23:09:19 <fjb> Hm, strange. 23:09:20 <Chruker> Yexo, I think it is just the lack of scope, since none of the user functions I call have the classname in front of them. 23:09:33 <frosch123> Ammler: It should, test it! 23:09:39 <Ammler> :-( 23:09:47 <Ammler> :-D 23:10:45 <Ammler> yes, nice. 23:10:59 * Ammler goes to bananas and set max version 23:11:53 <frosch123> it's even in rc1 :p 23:13:02 *** Mr_Gray [~bluetiger@nat-wh.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-16-213.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:52 <Belugas> kkb110 : you are boring as hell... where is your sense of fantasy? where is your imagination? are yu so happy in your daily life that you want to remove all the wonderful of an imaginative game like TTD? WHy has it been so popular since it's conception? becuase it's realistic? come on... 23:14:54 * Belugas vomits 23:15:15 <Belugas> who cares the amount of tiles for a station or an airport? 23:15:24 <Belugas> it has no fucking reality 23:15:30 <Belugas> that's waht makes the game great 23:15:38 <Belugas> you just... enjoy it 23:15:47 <Belugas> you want more? change the game, pick anouter one 23:15:53 <Yexo> welcome back Belugas :) 23:15:58 <Belugas> :) 23:16:15 * Belugas was swallowing supper at full speed 23:16:29 <Belugas> wife has some job left to do on house :S 23:16:31 <Yexo> * Belugas vomits <- that's not a good idea during supper 23:16:31 <Chruker> Its funny the tileness is why I prefer TTD over ex. Railroad Tycoon 3 with its 3D stuff 23:17:12 <Belugas> yup 23:17:24 <Belugas> although, never played them... 23:17:29 <Ammler> Belugas: doen't get tired to speak about that topic. :-) 23:17:32 <Belugas> but thew look of it... 23:17:39 <Belugas> nope, i'm not 23:17:45 <Belugas> it makes my steak gets out! 23:17:49 <Belugas> steam 23:17:55 <Belugas> not steak :S 23:17:56 <Ammler> :-D 23:18:04 <frosch123> :) 23:20:06 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEcbfc.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:21:42 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:04 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. Please, take care of them!] 23:25:07 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb543.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:42 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:27:42 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:45 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 23:33:10 <Belugas> going on my daily ration of no-brainer-work... 23:33:10 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs7.vodafone.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:12 *** Zahl [~Zahl@e179093156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:33:12 <Belugas> byebye 23:33:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B758E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:32 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest1877 23:34:32 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.21.35] has joined #openttd 23:34:32 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 23:36:10 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs9.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 23:37:06 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81212.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:37:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:37:37 *** Guest1877 [~KenjiE20@92.20.104.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:28 *** zand [~xand@kronos.xand.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:52:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff885.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52:51 *** xand [~xand@kronos.xand.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:41 *** goodger [~ben@host81-153-25-167.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 23:57:43 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]