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00:23:22 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 00:23:22 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:25 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 00:42:24 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@88.193.124.243] has quit [] 00:49:52 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485D6A1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:52:45 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-152-110-135.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:52:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.18.67.218] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 00:53:40 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D728.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:56:28 *** KenjiE20 [~Kenji@host81-152-110-135.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:57:20 *** KenjiE20|LT is now known as Guest2135 00:57:20 *** KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20|LT 01:02:29 *** Guest2135 [~Kenji@host81-152-110-135.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:36 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 01:39:23 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs9.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:20 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:50 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 02:46:21 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7507:f29e:2e43:a14d] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:05:59 *** racetrack [~racetrack@pyro.its.monash.edu.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:09:04 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:49 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:14:15 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-152-110-135.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:39:05 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:00 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:47:37 <_ln> guten morgen, liebe zuschauern 04:53:28 *** jebb44 [~joseph@76.202.132.12] has joined #openttd 04:54:03 <jebb44> i get an error message "cannot open sample.cat" 04:54:20 <jebb44> i just installed the 64 bit version for the first time 04:55:52 <jebb44> can someone help 04:56:19 <Forked> do you have sample.cat in a location openttd looks for it? 04:58:33 <jebb44> i don't see that file anywhere 05:00:47 <jebb44> i downloaded the vista x64 version 05:00:48 <jebb44> ran it 05:00:51 <jebb44> tried to open it 05:00:56 <jebb44> and that's the message i got 05:01:03 <jebb44> and see no sample.cat in the program folder 05:02:00 <Forked> You need the original TTD files 05:26:08 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:39:25 <jebb44> where do i get those? 05:45:04 <kkb110> from a friend who has original TTD maybe 05:50:26 <petern> from an original TTD CD... 05:51:57 <petern> or 05:52:24 <petern> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenGFX_Readme#Manually_Installing_OpenGFX 06:07:45 * petern wonders if it's necessary to be able to disable a rail type 06:16:09 <de_ghosty> no 06:16:16 <de_ghosty> we alwasy want maglev!!!!!! 06:16:17 <de_ghosty> :o 06:16:24 <Xaroth> no, but the option would be useful 06:29:41 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 06:31:57 <petern> whoop 06:32:06 <petern> vacuum cleaner caught fire, lol 06:37:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:37:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:46:35 *** jebb44 [~joseph@76.202.132.12] has quit [] 07:05:03 <planetmaker> morning 07:05:21 <planetmaker> * petern wonders if it's necessary to be able to disable a rail type <-- might be nice for scenario designers 07:12:13 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 07:13:10 <petern> why? 07:13:17 <petern> by disable, i mean remove completely 07:13:32 <petern> of course, rail types are disabled if there is no vehicle available for them 07:15:17 <planetmaker> I mean disable. 07:15:31 <planetmaker> There are many train sets which have both, steam and electric for example 07:15:40 <planetmaker> If you want to make a steamer only scenario...? 07:16:06 * petern starts again 07:16:26 * petern wonders if it's necessary to be able to remove an existing rail type via NewGRF 07:16:31 <planetmaker> but otoh... if people can always put restriction on themselves. 07:17:12 <planetmaker> so, definitely not a requirement IMO 07:18:02 <planetmaker> I see nasty problems, if you can disable railtypes via newgrf :) 07:18:12 <planetmaker> grf1: vehicles for types A and B 07:18:31 <planetmaker> grf2: disables A 07:18:34 <planetmaker> hm... 07:23:17 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 07:24:51 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:25:34 <planetmaker> thinking of it more. Forget everything I said today :) 07:25:45 <planetmaker> sozial problems need not technical solution. 07:25:51 <planetmaker> -t 07:26:53 <z-MaTRiX> hey 07:27:09 <z-MaTRiX> sure you can remove everything 07:27:32 <z-MaTRiX> adding should be more difficult 07:30:31 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 07:31:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31:25 <planetmaker> I think you didn't grasp the question, z-MaTRiX :) 07:32:06 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:32:31 <planetmaker> it's not about something in a running game. 07:36:25 <z-MaTRiX> [090521] planetmaker * petern wonders if it's necessary to be able to disable a rail type <-- might be nice for scenario designers 07:38:43 <z-MaTRiX> btw, old railroad engines become obselete as time advances, wonder if you noticed it 07:38:44 <planetmaker> z-MaTRiX, and why the heck should it be difficult for scenario designers to do something but not reverse it? 07:39:00 <planetmaker> z-MaTRiX, I wonder whether you noticed that that can be switched off... 07:41:03 <z-MaTRiX> [093845] planetmaker z-MaTRiX, and why the heck should it be difficult for scenario designers to do something but not reverse it? - dont get it 07:41:21 <z-MaTRiX> we have a desync 07:42:06 <planetmaker> scenario. 07:42:17 <planetmaker> not running game. 07:42:40 <planetmaker> editor as opposed to playing 07:43:18 <planetmaker> and how that'd lead to a desync eludes me. 07:43:50 <planetmaker> to modify those settings in a running game is an entirely different matter. Especially removing availability 07:46:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FE12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:46:58 <z-MaTRiX> hi 07:52:15 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-24-244.tn.glocalnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:53:05 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEaa5f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 07:56:25 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs9.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 08:01:06 *** Aali [~aali@84-217-17-200.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #openttd 08:06:15 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 08:13:29 <petern> so, er, what does any of that have to do with newgrf possibilities... 08:16:33 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 08:22:45 *** de_ghosty [~s@206-248-181-221.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:25:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:24 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:29:24 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 08:29:24 <planetmaker> petern, there's no relation to newgrf possibilities 08:33:09 <petern> so back to my question... 08:36:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:39:27 <planetmaker> you consider to allow newgrfs disable rail types, right? 08:40:13 <petern> yeah 08:40:19 <petern> i'm not sure it's necessary 08:41:16 <petern> 12 additional types should be enough, right? 08:41:38 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 08:43:12 <dihedral> wow - 12 would be overkill :-P 08:43:22 <dihedral> or is that for all of them together 08:43:38 <dihedral> i.e. road tram .... 08:43:56 <petern> rail types 08:44:05 * dihedral whistles :-P 08:44:05 <petern> 16 in total 08:44:10 <dihedral> heh 08:44:14 <dihedral> 12 rail types 08:44:22 <dihedral> what would you do with that? 08:44:25 <petern> 12 additional rail types 08:44:28 <petern> 16 rail types in total 08:44:34 <dihedral> right 08:44:38 <dihedral> yikes 08:44:59 <dihedral> "you cannot transport passengers on these rails" 08:44:59 <petern> well you could have cheap slow track, and expensive high speed track 08:45:11 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.213.60] has joined #openttd 08:45:14 <Ammler> narrow gauge, metro, rail, erail, shinkansen, monorail, maglev, transrapid <-- 8 existing 08:45:41 <dihedral> there are also different types of erail Ammler 08:46:15 <z-MaTRiX> hi:) 08:46:30 <Ammler> hmm, you mean the i.e. yarrs and the one from tyconnez? 08:46:56 <petern> "metro" is not a rail type :s 08:47:03 <petern> 3rd rail or 4th rail 08:47:15 <petern> plus that crazy french system that uses pneumatic tyres 08:48:08 <Ammler> petern: you need it for 2cc (monorail replacement) 08:48:21 <dihedral> pfft 08:48:34 <dihedral> the game has too many players :-D 08:48:35 <z-MaTRiX> transrapid = maglev no ? 08:48:40 <petern> Ammler, 2cc creates a 'metro' rail type as a generic system to separate the metro vehicles from regular rail 08:48:51 <planetmaker> petern, that system would replace the system of the 4 currently existing hard-coded types, right? 08:49:03 <dihedral> yep 08:49:18 <petern> well the existing 4 types will still be there, of course 08:50:08 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Maglev_Train 08:50:36 <z-MaTRiX> some real thing ;> 08:50:41 <planetmaker> petern, would they be "special" or treated as any other of the 12 new railtype things? 08:51:17 <Ammler> petern: like shinkansen in the japset 08:52:09 <z-MaTRiX> has a bezier curve track 08:56:16 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.213.60] has left #openttd [] 08:56:19 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.213.60] has joined #openttd 08:59:01 <Ammler> the 10th type ;- 08:59:05 <Ammler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway 09:02:17 <z-MaTRiX> "This allows the trains to operate on steep gradients." 09:02:20 <Ammler> but still a long way to 16 and you won't use all together anyway. :-) 09:02:31 <z-MaTRiX> to climb up hills 09:02:49 <Ammler> more then 3 tiles at once ;-) 09:03:13 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterCityExpress 09:03:21 <z-MaTRiX> high speed electric railway 09:03:41 <z-MaTRiX> @300kmh 09:03:51 <Ammler> like shinkansen 09:04:20 <z-MaTRiX> monorail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monorail 09:04:55 <z-MaTRiX> starting to get like rollercoasters 09:08:35 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-tired_metro 09:08:43 <z-MaTRiX> if you want metros also 09:09:27 <petern> it's like an echo 09:15:14 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad 09:15:17 <z-MaTRiX> hahah 09:15:33 <z-MaTRiX> what about going back in time? 09:15:50 <z-MaTRiX> 3HP rail transport? 09:18:11 <petern> planetmaker, "special" ? 09:18:42 <planetmaker> petern, there's no difference there on the source code side for the "old" rail types and the new rail types? 09:19:57 <petern> nope 09:21:43 <planetmaker> then I don't think there's an absolute need to allow to disable rail types. 09:22:06 <planetmaker> It might be nice, but it's not necessary. After all players can agree not to use a certain type. 09:23:02 <petern> 08:16 * petern wonders if it's necessary to be able to remove an existing rail type via NewGRF 09:23:22 <petern> O_o 09:23:45 <petern> say, some author wanted to ditch maglev, cos they didn't have enough types... 09:23:46 <petern> (hah) 09:24:19 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 09:24:23 <z-MaTRiX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwebebahn_Wuppertal 09:24:32 <z-MaTRiX> hm interesting 09:25:15 <petern> with an elephant in it 09:25:16 <planetmaker> petern, but then... is it not up to the newgrf to define the rail types in the first place? 09:25:34 <petern> yeah, but they can't remove the existing 4 09:25:41 <petern> (they can change them, but not remove them) 09:26:38 <planetmaker> ah, ok. 09:27:36 <planetmaker> dunno... changing them to fit your need is sufficient, is it? 09:27:41 <planetmaker> why disable something then? 09:30:09 <petern> they'll still have the original label 09:30:37 <petern> fuck it, 12 new is enough 09:48:35 *** ctibor_ [~ctibor@gprs9.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:16 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has joined #openttd 09:53:07 <fjb> Hm, you could make different rail tipes for differenf axle weights. 09:53:17 *** De_Ghosty [~s@206-248-181-221.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 10:00:33 <petern> tipes! 10:00:41 <petern> you could do that 10:00:52 <petern> but there is no code to handle weight 10:03:22 *** ctibor [~ctibor@gprs5.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:02 <Noldo> sounds like feature for the model railway guy 10:14:09 <dihedral> hello Noldo 10:14:30 <Noldo> hi dih 10:20:47 *** goodger [~ben@host81-153-25-167.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: +++ Out Of Cheese Error +++] 10:37:13 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.181.10] has joined #openttd 10:49:26 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051078235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:52:32 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:49 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 10:59:40 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:18:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.133.206] has joined #openttd 11:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> axle weight could be a new vehicle property (for road and rail) 11:30:42 <Eddi|zuHause> the railtypes code does not need to include that, but it should be prepared to be extendible in that direction 11:33:55 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bc7c:dbc3:b47c:c665] has joined #openttd 11:33:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:44:23 *** FiCE [~anonymous@c122-107-157-71.eburwd5.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:45:42 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 11:52:08 *** HackaBit [~Hack@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 11:52:17 *** HackaBit [~Hack@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has left #openttd [] 11:54:38 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c33fc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:57:59 *** HackaLittleBit [~Hack@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has left #openttd [] 11:58:11 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 12:08:36 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16305 /trunk/src/ (core/random_func.hpp network/network_internal.h): -Codechange: force-enable extra sync checking when random debugging is enable and give the calling location of Chance16(R) instead of the Random call within those functions. 12:13:08 *** stuffcor1se [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 12:14:05 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:47 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:23:52 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:00 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:37:33 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:04 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 12:40:46 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@nude.lesbianbath.com] has joined #openttd 12:54:55 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:29 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 13:00:15 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has quit [Quit: quit] 13:03:21 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.181.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:59 <Belugas> hello 13:11:02 <Xaroth> hm, bots not here 13:11:47 <frosch123> just use /query dorpsgek 13:13:59 <petern> @seen dorpsgek 13:17:33 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:24:01 *** Hirundo [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:30:29 *** stuffcor1se [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:34:12 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 13:45:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejg191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 13:53:38 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.213.60] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03:14 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has joined #openttd 14:04:09 *** bobo_b [~bobo_b@tiberius.ze.tum.de] has left #openttd [] 14:11:19 <fjb> Poor AdmiralAI... 14:16:22 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:18:44 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wired-133.fi.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:19:06 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [] 14:24:06 <frosch123> don't use evil grfs 14:27:40 <fjb> It was its own fault. It build underpowerd trains which crawled uphill at 1mph. 14:27:48 <petern> built 14:28:26 <oskari89> :') 14:37:55 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FE16.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:38:42 <fjb> I need an one way but don't stop here signal. 14:49:15 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:53 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i told repeatedly that i think one-way should be separated from signals 14:53:51 <petern> burp 14:54:15 *** davis` [~iloveme@p5B28CEAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:56:08 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:43 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejg191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:01:34 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 15:02:07 <HackaLittleBit> hello everyone 15:02:48 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has joined #openttd 15:06:19 <z-MaTRiX> hello hax0r 15:06:48 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.84.21.32] has joined #openttd 15:06:49 <Hirundo_> it's h4xx0r, fix your spelling please 15:07:29 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has left #openttd [Leaving] 15:09:50 <z-MaTRiX> sry 15:10:36 <z-MaTRiX> My b4d 15:12:34 <petern> ... 15:12:35 <petern> see topic :p 15:14:01 <z-MaTRiX> utf-8 is cool 15:14:57 <z-MaTRiX> w???? ?? ?v??ybo?y ? 15:18:59 <FauxFaux> I?n? ?y?o?u?r? ?b?o?x?!? 15:22:39 *** Hirundo_ [~chatzilla@5355F5FD.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316]] 15:23:25 <petern> :s 15:25:05 <batti5_> can any body help with a error? "configure: error: libproc library is required" (off topic) 15:25:59 <frosch123> well, install it 15:27:46 <batti5_> but i can`t find it on the net for mandriva 15:28:12 <z-MaTRiX> eh 15:32:22 <frosch123> not sure, maybe the lib belongs to the "procps" package 15:36:00 <_ln> batti5_: the correct apostrophe character is ', not `. 15:37:08 <ccfreak2k> When did libpng12 become required? 15:37:57 <davis`> `'_'` 15:38:39 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm132.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 15:39:12 <ccfreak2k> As opposed to earlier versions. 15:40:05 <Yexo> ccfreak2k: are you sure it's required? 15:40:39 <ccfreak2k> Someone could not run the "generic" Linux binaries because the linker couldn't find libpng12.so, so I would assume so. 15:40:45 <Xaroth> who kidnapped TB o_O 15:40:54 <Yexo> ah, that has always been the case 15:41:02 <Yexo> if you don't have any of the libraries, you need to compile yourself 15:41:03 <ccfreak2k> Even since 0.6.2? 15:41:07 <Yexo> yep 15:41:18 <Yexo> always = since png support 15:42:36 <petern> it's always been required in the prebuilt binaries 15:44:28 <ccfreak2k> Perhaps configuring/building openttd configures it to link against the correct library in the system. 15:48:51 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:03 <petern> libpng12.so is the correct library 15:49:17 <ccfreak2k> Nevermind. 15:49:26 <petern> building it yourself lets you build without libpng 15:52:36 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@resnet535.bournemouth.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 15:55:03 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:03 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:56:48 <tneo> what is the minimum town size to accept goods in temperate? 15:58:07 <z-MaTRiX> feel free to winnuke our unix boxes brb 15:58:25 <frosch123> that does not directly depend on the population. use the 'land area information'-tool (the questionmark) and test the houses, whether they accept goods 15:58:31 <frosch123> you will need 8/8 acceptance 15:59:45 <petern> huh? 16:00:08 <tneo> ok thanks :) 16:01:45 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:06:01 <fjb> Hm, cargodist doesn't like the same stations two times in the orders without another stion inbetween (there is a go to depot order inbetween). 16:10:33 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B806AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:48 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has joined #openttd 16:11:28 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 16:12:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80895.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:12:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:14:07 <fjb> Ah, go via is working. 16:15:28 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 16:16:21 <z-MaTRiX> is it worth taking passengers between 2 inner adjacent stations on a long line, or better go possible longest distance schedules? 16:17:48 <fjb> But go via is not working (because the train does not turn around then). 16:18:00 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:19 <fjb> z-MaTRiX: Depends. 16:18:24 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:21:59 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-187-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:39 <petern> if you want income, you want long distance 16:29:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.169.31] has joined #openttd 16:29:46 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm132.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:35 *** batti5_ [~batti5@92.84.21.32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:37 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:01 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:32:01 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.162.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:00 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 16:49:05 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:31 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:54:02 <fonsinchen> fjb: if the next stopping station is the same as the current station it won't load anything on the first visit, but unload everything. However it should load on the second visit. What is the behaviour you see? 16:56:46 <fjb> fonsinchen: I hat it to full load any cargo at the first visit. The train did not load anything and never leave the station. 16:57:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:15 <fjb> fonsinchen: Next try was a second station next to the loading station (to turn around the train there). That second station ahd no loading and no unloading oders. That coused the trains to also not load anything in the fist station. 17:01:16 <z-MaTRiX> what you think about this thing? http://wiki.openttd.org/Dual_Tetrathorp-Junction 17:02:12 <fonsinchen> It's clear the train won't load anything if the next station is the same as the current one. Cargo won't run in circles. 17:02:31 <fonsinchen> better set the full load order at the second visit. 17:03:09 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:04:03 <fonsinchen> fjb: I can't imagine the layout in your second try. Can you post a screenshot somewhere? 17:08:37 <fjb> fonsinchen: Full load at the second visit is not the best solution of the train will stay weeks in that station. It may need service after that long time. And after leaving the depot it has to turn around somewhere. 17:14:34 <fonsinchen> So you can either advocate for full load becoming an "override" modification like unload and transfer are or redesign your station so that the train doesn't need to visit the station a second time after the depot. 17:25:57 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:29:01 <fjb> If the second station would be working working full load would not have to be an override. I will upload a screenshot soon. 17:32:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:34:39 <fjb> fonsinchen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/57291061@N00/3530843023/sizes/o/ 17:35:40 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051078235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 17:41:48 <fonsinchen> fjb: This should work once the link stat between Pendnor Woods and wherever that train is going has timed out. 17:43:48 <fjb> Can I see when the link stat will time out? And what happens when when going to the depot and the second station are enclosed by a conditional order? 17:44:00 <fonsinchen> Like this the train will load things that are going via Pendnor North. The stuff waiting at the station is probably expecting to go directly without another stop in between. Once the link stat times out it will learn that this isn't possible anymore and be rerouted. 17:44:08 <fonsinchen> You can watch the smallmap 17:44:38 <fonsinchen> the link between Pendnor Woods and the destination will decrease while another link between Pendnor North and the destination will increase 17:44:50 <fjb> Ah 17:45:13 <fonsinchen> (However, as the visualization is not so good, you will probably not see it ...) 17:46:04 <fonsinchen> Conditional orders are not supported 17:46:19 <fonsinchen> I'm still pondering what to do with them 17:46:19 <fjb> Must a train go there first to make the link or is just putting the orders enough? 17:47:08 <fonsinchen> The train has to visit either the station before the new order or the station of the new order at least once to initialize the link. 17:47:38 <fjb> Ok. 17:47:44 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 17:48:14 <fonsinchen> However, the new link will die more quickly than the old one if you neither have a train waiting at Pendnor North nor regular trains going between Pendnor North and the destination 17:48:20 <fonsinchen> That doesn't matter much, though 17:48:48 <fonsinchen> once there isn't any planned route left the cargo will go anywhere 17:50:03 <fjb> The trains would visit Pendnor North only once in a while, but that statin will stay in the ordwers. 17:51:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling cargodist causes more trouble than it solves... 17:52:55 <fjb> I don't agree. Most things are working nice. 17:54:03 *** thingwath [~thingwath@wired-133.fi.muni.cz] has quit [Quit: It's all over.] 17:54:57 <fjb> And every layout, every playing style is diffent. Each of them has to be tested and problems fixed. 17:56:59 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEaa5f.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:03 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: yexo * r16306 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix [FS#2901] (r15027): Close all windows before unloading the AI system as closing the content-download window will rescan for AIs 18:13:19 *** davis- [~iloveme@p5B28DA3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:18:22 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.18.185.73] has joined #openttd 18:18:56 <insulfrog> hi all 18:19:21 <fjb> Hi insulfrog 18:20:33 *** davis` [~iloveme@p5B28CEAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:17 <insulfrog> I have a question, how can multiplayer servers can be on all the time, even when the host computer is turned off? 18:22:36 <insulfrog> on OpenTTD 18:23:09 <Yexo> they can't 18:23:23 <insulfrog> ok 18:23:27 <Yexo> a server can not be on while thehost computer isoff 18:24:37 <_ln> http://www.kolumbus.fi/taara/matkalla_jonnekin.jpg 18:25:06 <insulfrog> the reason why I'm asking is that I have been on servers (like openttdcoop and standard) and they appear to be on all the time 18:25:26 <Yexo> that's because those are run on a computer that is never turned off 18:25:39 <insulfrog> that figures :) 18:27:08 <insulfrog> probably that computer is an 'external' server if you know what I mean ;) 18:28:04 <Yexo> yes and yes 18:28:23 <insulfrog> nice :) 18:31:59 <insulfrog> hmm... 18:33:58 <Ammler> most server on the list marked as "dedicated" are permanent on. 18:34:21 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:36:50 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:33 <petern> insulfrog, didn't you know, the internet is turned off every night 18:37:53 <Markk> :D 18:38:13 <Yexo> petern: sssh, he isn't supposed to know, they always wait untill insulfrog logs out 18:38:40 <insulfrog> I noticed you said that :p 18:43:22 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has joined #openttd 18:45:07 <fjb> My trains are faster loading than leaving the station... 18:46:56 *** insulfrog_ [~trainslov@92.20.63.22] has joined #openttd 18:47:12 <insulfrog_> heh, internet's on the blink :( 18:48:21 <frosch123> sorry, hit the wrong button :s 18:50:06 <planetmaker> insulfrog, for sure our game servers are somewhere in computing centres and not in my bedroom :) 18:50:55 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.18.185.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:07 *** insulfrog_ is now known as insulfrog 18:52:04 <insulfrog> its knowing how to set a game up to the 'external' server 18:52:35 <planetmaker> insulfrog, just the same as on your local computer. 18:52:58 <planetmaker> or at least 97.5% :) 18:54:46 <insulfrog> I know about how to set up a multiplayer game as I normally would but you got to make sure that you can communicate to the external server for you to set it up 18:57:32 <planetmaker> sure. But that's nothing difficult. ssh is your friend 18:57:51 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:58:14 <planetmaker> it helps, though, a lot, if you know the OS's console commands. 18:58:38 <planetmaker> or have a remote desktop possibly. Never tried that 18:58:44 <planetmaker> won't work on ours anyway 18:59:10 <insulfrog> :) 19:03:01 *** Zr40 [~zr40@120-12-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #openttd 19:07:06 *** mikl [~mikl@90.184.195.240] has quit [Quit: mikl] 19:13:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:13:09 <insulfrog> ssh? 19:14:35 <frosch123> google is your friend :p 19:14:55 <fjb> Never ever put a server on the internet if you don't know how to administer it. 19:15:27 <Xaroth> administrate 19:15:43 <Belugas> ssh = Smash Something hard 19:15:51 <Belugas> or Someone... 19:15:57 <insulfrog> ah :) 19:16:02 * Xaroth smashes Belugas hard 19:16:07 <Xaroth> like that 19:16:08 <insulfrog> lol 19:16:34 <Belugas> hooo.... I do not have my ration of kick today :D 19:16:38 <Belugas> may I start now? 19:16:39 <Belugas> hehee 19:16:40 <Xaroth> no 19:16:45 <frosch123> Belugas: you know the korn shell? 19:16:53 <Xaroth> insulfrog: keep in mind that when smashing people 19:16:55 <Belugas> hem... no:( 19:16:58 <Xaroth> they might smash back 19:17:12 <frosch123> Belugas: just want to give you a hint with its abbreviation :p 19:20:26 <Belugas> frosch123, i'm scratching my head, and apart hairs, got nothing out of it :( 19:20:37 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 19:21:06 <frosch123> he, I thought you wanted your daily portion of ksh? 19:21:59 <Belugas> Kashmir? 19:22:55 <frosch123> ok, I will shut up :s (k... s...... h...) 19:23:34 <Xaroth> ksh.. kick somebody hard :) 19:25:34 <Belugas> baaaaa 19:25:47 <Belugas> do not feel into it :S 19:25:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:25:54 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.21.32] has joined #openttd 19:26:41 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-66-229-170-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:58 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:29:22 <insulfrog> o well :) 19:32:10 <insulfrog> I think I have a couple of suggestions to OpenTTD as well (hope you like them) :) 19:32:53 <Xaroth> i think the bigger question would be 19:32:56 <Xaroth> are you willing to make them :P 19:33:58 <frosch123> yup, "lack of suggestions" was never a problem :) 19:37:08 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.133.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:37:17 *** insulfrog_ [~trainslov@92.22.215.37] has joined #openttd 19:39:34 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Quit: Adia?.] 19:39:40 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:55 <Belugas> yeah 19:40:08 <insulfrog_> another suggestion is to make a 'campaign' of these 'scripted scenarios' where you are in certain countries to do 'wheterver' in a certain amount of time and you can create your own too 19:40:13 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.20.63.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:13 <Belugas> lack of intelligent ones, or excitingly good ones is... 19:40:33 <insulfrog_> how is that for ideas :) 19:40:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-137-228.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:40:35 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 19:40:57 <insulfrog_> not sure how how it would be coded though 19:41:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.216.211] has joined #openttd 19:41:36 *** insulfrog_ is now known as insulfrog 19:43:15 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:41 <Belugas> sounds not too TTD.. More like a FPS to me... 19:49:31 <Nite_Owl> or RRT 19:50:58 <frosch123> or J&R :p 19:52:02 <glx> and already suggested 19:53:15 <glx> (more than once) 19:53:28 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 90 seconds.] 19:55:16 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 19:56:07 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 19:56:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 19:58:01 <Belugas> yup 19:58:04 <Belugas> therefor... 19:58:06 * Belugas yawns 19:59:18 <frosch123> who reanimated dorpsgek? 19:59:39 <glx> it was just away from this chan 19:59:47 <frosch123> that I know 19:59:51 <glx> (and I didn't) 20:00:33 * Belugas stops CPR'ing DorpsGek 20:04:14 <Eddi|zuHause> CPR? 20:04:39 <glx> I guess it's reanimation 20:05:36 <Nite_Owl> IT IS ALIVE - DorpsGekenstein 20:06:07 <glx> Nite_Owl: don't mix the professor and the monster 20:06:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Frankenstein was not the monster... 20:06:46 <Belugas> Cardio Pulmo Resurection 20:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause> why can't those english speakers use real words? 20:07:40 <Belugas> same in french... but it's CPR 20:07:46 <Nite_Owl> I am aware of that but for the sake of the humor... 20:07:52 <Belugas> Cardio Pulmo Réanimation 20:08:16 <Eddi|zuHause> if one says "Herz-Lungen-Wiederbelebung", everybody knows that it's about "Heart" and "Lungs" 20:09:18 <frosch123> KPR "kardiopulmonale Reanimation" :p 20:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i have never ever heard anybody say that :p 20:09:41 <Belugas> How do you call the doctors who a re dealing with hearts? A Heartholog? or cardiolog ? :P 20:10:02 <frosch123> Kardiologe :p 20:10:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never dealt with one 20:10:13 <Nite_Owl> cardiologist 20:10:48 <Eddi|zuHause> but everybody would understand "Herzdoktor" :p 20:10:56 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: I never heard "H-L-Wiederbelebung", always "Reanimation" 20:11:06 <glx> only the -doktor part ;) 20:11:13 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: do not confuse with "Herzkasper" 20:11:29 <Belugas> a lungologist? 20:11:49 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: do those even exist? 20:11:49 <glx> what's that? 20:12:06 <Belugas> a doctor who deals with lungs ^_^ 20:12:16 *** batti5 [~batti5@92.84.21.32] has left #openttd [] 20:13:37 <Nite_Owl> Pulmonologist 20:13:40 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but it's a fact that a majority of the "foreign" medical terms have german equivalents, where there aren't any in other languages (english, french) 20:13:43 <glx> pneumologue :) 20:14:26 <frosch123> "What?" 20:15:00 <Belugas> i'm just having fun ;) 20:15:01 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: can you give me an example of a medical term that is not latin-like in german, french and english? 20:15:22 <Eddi|zuHause> "Muttermund" 20:15:53 <Sacro> mother dog? 20:16:02 <_ln> Sacro: hund, bitte. 20:16:05 <Eddi|zuHause> no, that's a "Hund" 20:16:33 <Belugas> who you want to bite? 20:16:56 <glx> col de l'uterus 20:17:16 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F5FE16.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:17:31 <Belugas> Mont de Vénus? 20:18:12 <frosch123> it's a "Mont" in french? in german its only a "monticule" :p 20:18:23 *** orava [~rain@a88-114-52-67.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 20:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> no, Belugas was joking 20:19:17 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, there are lots of examples outside the female anatomy ;) 20:19:44 <_ln> omg, Belugas used an accent on a letter for the first time. 20:19:56 <glx> and he failed ;) 20:20:14 *** goodger [~ben@host81-153-25-167.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:05 * Belugas has not yet re-installed correctly his mIRC client since on new computer.. 20:21:07 <Belugas> i thingk 20:21:09 <Belugas> -g 20:21:13 <SmatZ> :o) 20:21:28 <SmatZ> welcome, mIRC Belugas 20:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause> 12:39:360 20:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause> err... wrong window... 20:21:46 <SmatZ> type password next time please :) 20:21:54 <glx> maybe it is 20:21:59 <SmatZ> heheeh 20:22:02 <Eddi|zuHause> that WAS my ... wait ;) 20:22:23 <Sacro> s'ok, we only see starts 20:22:24 <Sacro> *star 20:22:25 <Sacro> s 20:22:46 <SmatZ> :) 20:23:23 <Sacro> see my password is ******* 20:23:37 <glx> I have the same 20:23:52 <SmatZ> :D 20:24:07 <Eddi|zuHause> so if i say hunter2 you see only stars? 20:24:13 <SmatZ> hehehe 20:24:14 <Sacro> exactly 20:24:22 <Tefad> my password is also *******! 20:25:01 <Belugas> OH mY GOD!!! 20:25:07 <Belugas> I do not have a password!! 20:25:23 <Sacro> :o oh no 20:25:33 <Eddi|zuHause> then you cannot make use of this mIRC function 20:26:25 <Belugas> which one? the kick? 20:26:28 <Belugas> let me try... 20:26:44 *** Eddi|zuHause was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [testing, 1,2,3] 20:26:52 <Belugas> oups... sorry... i do have a password... 20:26:59 <SmatZ> :D 20:29:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:18 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:29:59 <Eddi|zuHause> serves me right for provoking people and then not watching the chat 20:30:22 <Belugas> :D 20:30:39 <glx> enable auto rejoin ;) 20:31:04 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate that function... 20:31:22 <Eddi|zuHause> it totally voids the educational function of a kick 20:31:54 <Eddi|zuHause> so people with autorejoin tend to earn a tempban 20:32:01 <glx> usually kick is not educational 20:32:31 <SmatZ> true 20:32:46 <SmatZ> that's why DorpsGek has "ban with timeout" 20:33:24 <SmatZ> but if you are kicked and you autorejoin, you still should know why you were kicked 20:33:34 <SmatZ> that you should stop your behaviour 20:33:35 <SmatZ> or so 20:33:52 <glx> else there's the next step ;) 20:33:56 <Eddi|zuHause> you have no idea how many people have no clue that there was a kick message 20:34:05 <SmatZ> :-/ 20:34:12 <SmatZ> maybe depends on client 20:34:21 *** SmatZ was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [hello] 20:34:26 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:35 *** glx was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [test] 20:34:35 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:bc7c:dbc3:b47c:c665] has joined #openttd 20:34:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:34:38 <SmatZ> I see it :) 20:34:41 <glx> me too 20:34:47 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe depends on the "client" :p 20:34:59 <glx> [22:34:53] Vous avez ?t? kick?(e) de #openttd par DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] : test 20:36:45 <Ammler> well, it might look like a disconnect 20:37:56 <glx> the text is different ;) 20:38:08 <glx> but as nobody reads 20:38:14 <Belugas> [16:34] <+glx> usually kick is not educational <- especially mine 20:38:29 <glx> TB's are not either ;) 20:38:39 <glx> especially when Sacro is the target 20:38:50 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 20:38:52 <Sacro> hm? 20:38:56 <Eddi|zuHause> TB's kicks are stress management :p 20:39:07 <glx> same for Belugas ;) 20:39:59 <frosch123> usually there is no need for kicking, most of the time highlighting is enough. correct, Ammler? 20:40:14 <SmatZ> :) 20:40:28 <Ammler> :P 20:42:33 <glx> @op 20:42:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o glx] by DorpsGek 20:42:56 *** glx changed the topic of #openttd to: 0.7.0, 0.7.1-RC1 | Website: *.openttd.org (BaNaNaS: bananas, Translator: translator2, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, Dev-docs: docs, Patches & Bug-reports: bugs, Revision log: vcs, Release info: finger) | #openttd.notice for SVN notices | UTF-8 please | No Unauthorised Bots | English only :D 20:43:27 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:43:38 <Eddi|zuHause> what's with the smilie? 20:44:14 <_ln> yeah, English is a serious matter! 20:44:28 *** thingwath [~thingwath@morana.sks2.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 20:44:31 <Ammler> merge of "English only" and "no language police", maybe ;-) 20:44:36 <Sacro> there's an 0.7.1-RC1 now? 20:44:53 <SmatZ> petern considers that "English only" rule funny because hardly anyone here speaks English well enough 20:45:03 <glx> Sacro: now means 3 days ago yes 20:45:13 <Sacro> didn't notice the commit 20:45:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:02 <frosch123> what, sacro, you did not read the announcement topic on the forums? 20:46:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that's easy if english is a foreign language for 70% of the people in here... 20:46:26 <frosch123> that was hard work and took almost 12 hours :p 20:46:35 <SmatZ> hmm my ISP was supporting tunneled IPv6, but isn't anymore :-x 20:46:46 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 20:48:51 <_ln> let's have a Dutch Only theme day, schall wir? 20:49:14 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, i will speak "funny dutch" then ;) 20:49:34 <_ln> is there some other type of dutch too? 20:50:05 <Eddi|zuHause> someone here said a few days ago that german sounded like "funny dutch" 20:50:36 <petern> funny? 20:51:17 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:51:46 <frosch123> petern: "don't mention the war" 20:51:55 <SmatZ> didn't you add that ":D"? 20:52:08 <Westie> "what war? :P" 20:53:37 <Eddi|zuHause> petern: well, it's only a quote... 20:53:38 <SmatZ> I missed it too I guess 20:55:48 <Belugas> # TOO FUCKED UP TO CARE ANYMORE!!! 20:56:04 <Belugas> yeah... my stress management... fun and nin! 20:56:29 <Eddi|zuHause> # Es k?nnt alles so einfach sein 20:56:34 <Eddi|zuHause> # Is es aber nich 20:58:15 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:24 * Belugas is going to release some steam tonigh on the guitar 21:03:31 <Belugas> night all 21:03:38 <Belugas> enjoy ze night 21:03:49 <glx> have fun :) 21:04:23 <Belugas> i will , thanks :) and if petern is still awake by then, it will be dounble :D 21:04:26 * Belugas is now gone 21:05:39 <_ln> what if there was a bot that checked that everyone's each word against an english dictionary, and kicked when unknown words are uttered? 21:06:12 <_ln> and why not a grammar checker, too. 21:06:24 <Eddi|zuHause> "there is no technical solution to a social problem" 21:07:58 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:54 <Eddi|zuHause> # this is where your sanity gives in, and love begins 21:10:55 <Eddi|zuHause> # never lose your grip, don't trip, don't fall, you lose it all 21:10:57 <Eddi|zuHause> # the sweetest way to die 21:12:49 <_ln> "Angels & Demons" was highly unrealistic, as Italian police officers understood English. 21:13:07 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:13:19 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 21:17:35 <_ln> tengo que acostarme ahora. buenas noches, gente. 21:18:21 <Eddi|zuHause> ja, du mich auch... 21:18:29 <Eddi|zuHause> (:P) 21:20:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.216.211] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:21 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] by DorpsGek 21:21:21 *** _ln was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [English only] 21:23:33 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.216.211] has joined #openttd 21:26:20 *** [1]KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.216.211] has joined #openttd 21:26:20 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest2272 21:26:20 *** [1]KenjiE20 is now known as KenjiE20 21:27:26 *** octernion [~octernion@hermes.mae.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 21:27:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FE12.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:48 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:27:55 *** ctibor [~ctibor@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 21:30:40 *** tkjacobsen [~tkjacobse@pppoe2-ves.broadcom.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:36 *** Guest2272 [~KenjiE20@92.22.216.211] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:32:39 *** NightKhaos [~nightkhao@78-86-111-126.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:39:11 <insulfrog> cyas 21:39:12 *** insulfrog [~trainslov@92.22.215.37] has quit [Quit: hi] 21:41:23 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] by DorpsGek 21:44:27 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 21:47:04 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-66-229-170-36.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:59:38 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: glx * r16307 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: makedepend can't handle the amount of files we have and it also miss some dependencies. That's why we introduce our custom implementation of makedepend. 22:01:38 *** octernion [~octernion@hermes.mae.cornell.edu] has quit [Quit: woop woop] 22:03:16 <Ammler> glx: done? 22:03:23 <Ammler> no make clean needed anymore? 22:03:50 <glx> you may need make clean, but not because dependencies ;) 22:04:13 <Ammler> well, I had to use it almost for every compile lately 22:04:37 <Ammler> for* 22:04:48 <glx> that's because you didn't disable makedepend ;) 22:05:08 <glx> (or fixed your makedepend) 22:05:58 <Ammler> don't I need that? 22:06:18 <frosch123> checking builtin depend... yes <- now you need that :) 22:09:00 <glx> makedepend was just a compilation accelerator 22:09:36 <glx> same for the new depend 22:15:47 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@a82-95-167-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:01 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has joined #openttd 22:20:13 <HackaLittleBit> Hello 22:21:32 <HackaLittleBit> Please guys can you close that post of mine (splitting tunnels, bridges and depots) 22:21:56 <SmatZ> close post? 22:22:08 <HackaLittleBit> close post! pls 22:22:09 <SmatZ> like, "Lock topic"? 22:22:18 <HackaLittleBit> lock topic 22:22:48 <SmatZ> there's a policy of not closing topics upon request :-x 22:23:07 <Yexo> I'll copy my private reply here for others to read: 22:23:09 <Yexo> 1) I can't do that, since I'm not a moderator at the forums 22:23:13 <Yexo> 2) I see no reason to close it, just leave it alone and it'll die eventually 22:23:29 <frosch123> really? i saw "close as requested" several times 22:23:39 <SmatZ> really? 22:23:50 <SmatZ> at tt-forums? 22:23:51 <frosch123> however, HackaLittleBit, just report your own topic and a moderator will summon itself :) 22:23:53 <Yexo> yes, but mostly in topics were a flamewar started 22:24:01 <SmatZ> ah, yes 22:24:20 <SmatZ> bad bad frosch123 :-x 22:24:27 <frosch123> "what?" 22:24:29 <SmatZ> do you want HackaLittleBit banned :( 22:24:47 <HackaLittleBit> LOL 22:24:47 <SmatZ> moderators don't like being summoned this way imo :) 22:25:45 <frosch123> ok, then do a post and ask the participant to stop spamming your topic :) 22:26:35 *** NukeBuster [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 22:26:36 *** Nuke2 [~NukeBuste@80.101.115.82] has quit [Quit: http://www.interplay.com/] 22:26:57 <SmatZ> hmm clone 22:28:18 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:28:48 *** Yexo is now known as Guest2280 22:28:48 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 22:33:51 *** Guest2280 [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:02 <HackaLittleBit> Fine, then the only thing I can do now is continue my search fo that ilusive wing that PikkaBird posted 22:34:21 <SmatZ> ilusive wing? 22:34:40 <HackaLittleBit> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=788709#p788709 22:34:42 <SmatZ> you mean "Guess the plane" thread? 22:34:49 <SmatZ> ah ok ;) 22:34:50 <HackaLittleBit> yep 22:36:12 <frosch123> hmm, "forum games". i guess i have never been there before :) 22:38:08 <HackaLittleBit> are you looking? do you see the )&)!"%$)%)!$ silence of PikkaBird 22:41:40 *** the-batt [~bartek@94-40-44-199.tktelekom.pl] has joined #openttd 22:42:09 *** the-batt [~bartek@94-40-44-199.tktelekom.pl] has quit [] 22:42:10 *** phidah [~phidah@1305ds3-oebr.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: phidah] 22:47:16 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-137-228.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:54:44 <HackaLittleBit> ok found the plane hehe :) 22:55:10 <HackaLittleBit> good night everybody 22:56:11 *** HackaLittleBit [~HackaLitt@195-23-22-246.net.novis.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:05:15 *** svip [~svip@0x53589c76.boanxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19:26 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:56 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c33fc.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77BEC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:16 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: smatz * r16308 /trunk/src/ (station_cmd.cpp town_cmd.cpp): -Fix: parameter is invalid when it's equal to length of an array (Yexo) 23:43:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]