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Log for #openttd on 14th June 2009:
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00:06:48  <petern> er
00:07:01  <petern> well you can look it up in the local authority window
00:07:50  <SmatZ> you don't see exact value there
00:07:56  <SmatZ> just "Good / Excellent..."
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00:24:55  <HackaLittleBit> evenin
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00:29:18  <petern> SmatZ, from a user point of view, that is the value
00:31:52  <SmatZ> petern: true - I am playing with http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/private/mypatches/town_rating_r16414.diff though
00:32:57  <petern> i am playing with my synths
00:34:51  <Belugas> i'm working on my work :(
00:35:14  <SmatZ> :)
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00:40:44  <HackaLittleBit> and i am going to sleep :)
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05:38:29  <_ln> http://www.flygradar.nu/karta.php
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06:53:35  <andythenorth> morning.
06:54:00  <andythenorth> drinking coffee not tea today.  only way to get through fixing so many sprite offsets  :O
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07:14:26  <Alberth> and a good morning to all
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10:52:30  <dihedral> hello
11:01:47  <Alberth> hello
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11:08:25  <Chrill> Hey, I'm running the Total Bridge Renewal set. In some screenshots, I've seen this (I think this set) used with TTRS roads. Does anyone know how to achieve this?
11:08:35  <Chrill> I've tried to play around with parameters and similar, to no avail
11:12:41  * Alberth supplies dihedral with some pills to calm down (don't get so upset with SX!)
11:13:55  <dihedral> Alberth, i am not upset :-P
11:14:54  <Alberth> glad to hear that, as it is seems wasted effort :)
11:15:08  <dihedral> no - just the most amusing thread imo :-D
11:15:45  <dihedral> ssh <host> -l <user> -R 1022:localhost:22 <- why aint that working??
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11:17:14  <Alberth> you must be root to use 1022 ?
11:17:24  <dihedral> ah fuck it :_D
11:17:25  <dihedral> thanks
11:17:50  <Rubidium> if you're talking about ports, then yes... it's less than 1024
11:18:23  <dihedral> yes
11:18:25  <dihedral> sure is
11:19:12  <Alberth> I didn't know ssh could do this. Seems like a nice functionality.
11:25:49  <dihedral> you can even do it in an open ssh session
11:26:21  <dihedral> ~C on a fresh line will give you a local command line on which you can specify a -L or -R
11:31:49  <dihedral> "I wish you the best with your other and future projects, may they be as successful as this one." <- HAHA
11:31:54  <dihedral> like that ^^
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11:40:35  <Alberth> well, he defines success slightly different ;)
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11:51:31  <petern> what a knob
11:52:48  <petern> er, not Brianetta  :)
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11:53:01  <petern> welshdragon
11:53:08  <petern> go and weed my garden, eh?
11:53:11  <Brianetta> hello (:
11:53:20  <dihedral> hello Brianetta
11:53:34  <dihedral> there is weed in your garden petern ?
11:53:34  * Brianetta just re-watched the OpenTTD Visualised video
11:54:02  <welshdragon> petern: no :P
11:54:49  <petern> dihedral, yup[
11:56:36  <dihedral> i'll visit :-D
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12:56:11  <Phazorx> me wonders who is responsible for webtranslator tool itself, and wether or not it is GPL?
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12:56:38  <Alberth> afaik TrueBrain has built it
12:57:07  <Phazorx> and where is allmight TL these days?
12:57:19  <Alberth> studying
12:57:45  <Phazorx> is there something he doesnt kno yet :o)
12:57:59  <Alberth> apparently :)
12:58:41  <Alberth> or he is just checking he knows everything :)
12:59:02  <Phazorx> one who knows everything should be aware of that fact and would not need checking
13:03:14  <Ammler> is wt3 already in action?
13:05:08  <Alberth> Ask at #openttd.wt3 :)  (main page still links to WT2, so I guess not)
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13:08:57  <Rubidium> wt/wt2 were written by Miham
13:12:06  <glx> and fixed by Rubidium ;)
13:12:27  <Rubidium> please don't call it fixed
13:12:34  <dihedral> wt2 is current translator, afaik it is not under gpl
13:12:38  <glx> well hacked to work
13:12:45  <dihedral> hehe
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13:27:15  <Phazorx> heya Ammler
13:28:09  <Ammler> sali Phazorx :-)
13:28:21  <Brianetta> In the "OpnTTD Visualised" video, Rubidium is the black hole at the centre of the Milky Way
13:28:46  * Phazorx wonders if there are gpled webtranslators similar to wt2
13:28:59  <Ammler> not gpl, but free
13:29:01  <Rubidium> yeah, I'm not burning yet
13:29:27  <Phazorx> well whichever, i'm looking for one for widelands, which is oepnsource project
13:30:05  <Phazorx> similar to openttd i guess :)
13:31:07  <Phazorx> Rubidium, you should know wether or not wt is public domain and available
13:31:17  <Ammler> maybe this one might help: http://99translations.com/
13:32:00  <Phazorx> doesntmention svn integration there
13:32:07  <Phazorx>  but thanks i'll look into it
13:32:09  <Rubidium> Phazorx: who am I to judge about that?
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13:32:51  <Phazorx> Rubidium: someone with a clue on how ottd developemtn happens in general?
13:33:06  <Rubidium> WT/WT2 were from before my time
13:33:14  <Phazorx> really...
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13:34:43  <petern> wt doesn't (didn't?) have svn integration
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13:35:24  <Phazorx> wt2?
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13:36:01  <glx> it's not a clean integration
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13:36:29  <Phazorx> in my very humble opinion it is better than none and it serves the purpose well
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13:36:47  <Phazorx> there can be a better/easier way but wt2 looks better thanother ones i seen
13:37:25  <Phazorx> which pretty much comes down to launchpad aside of custom solutions
13:37:27  <glx> did you ever try WT2 ?
13:37:46  <Phazorx> long time ago i did something with i
13:37:55  <Phazorx> but not sure wether it was wt or wt2
13:38:04  <Phazorx> beelike 2 years ago or so
13:38:12  <glx> btw it's tailored for openttd string system
13:38:24  <Phazorx> looking at interface now does not look same
13:38:29  <Phazorx> obviously
13:38:41  <Phazorx> tha's why i poundered about GPL
13:39:01  <Phazorx> with freedom to fix/tune for other projects
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13:47:39  <dragonhorseboy> any of you from germany or know about their railroad a bit?
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14:06:48  <dihedral> dragonhorseboy, just ask!
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14:11:40  <dragonhorseboy> fair enough - know what was the name of that one stretch of land bridge over a large expanse of water? i recall it was one rail with long banks on both sides .. probably also was one road parallel to it too
14:11:55  <dragonhorseboy> I recall seeing some photos and I'm sure it was in germany area .. re DB steam locomotives
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14:31:08  <dragonhorseboy> well have to go for a while now anyway
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15:00:14  <petern> something about his sentence mannorisms really annoys me :s
15:01:18  <Eddi|zuHause> it annoys me more that he disappears right before i am able to answer him
15:01:29  <Eddi|zuHause> basically every time he asks something...
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15:01:46  <petern> mannerisms, of course
15:07:10  <Eddi|zuHause> when he comes back, someone might answer him: he probably meant the "Hindenburgdamm" which connects the island Sylt to the mainland
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15:50:56  <Phazorx> 3
15:51:02  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: alberth * r16575 /trunk/src/widget.cpp: -Fix (r15760): Move resize sprite to the right when widget is lowered for RTL languages also.
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16:17:53  * Rubidium wonders whether Wolfsherz expects a hello from someone
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16:19:23  <Wolfsherz> i was just polite. i was tought to greet when entering a "room" ;)
16:20:03  <Wolfsherz> may i ask what the exact purpose of this channel is?
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16:21:36  <Rubidium> I'd say it has something to do with users and OpenTTD
16:23:03  <Tefad> it's like the OpenTTD forums but in realtime
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16:25:41  <strongfrakk> hello , one question, how can i provide the cities with goods ?
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16:26:08  <Sacro> *transport* tycoon
16:26:29  <Eddi|zuHause> factories, saw mills and oil refineries produce goods, when provided with raw materials
16:26:56  <Eddi|zuHause> cities accept goods when they have enough office buildings
16:26:57  <strongfrakk> wait i
16:27:24  <Eddi|zuHause> typically that means 3
16:27:41  <strongfrakk> i have had a factory
16:27:56  <strongfrakk> it gets grain, etc
16:28:12  <strongfrakk> but how can i transport the good to the cities
16:28:20  <Alberth> lay a track?
16:28:24  <Eddi|zuHause> with a goods train
16:28:51  <strongfrakk> one more question
16:29:27  <strongfrakk> factory doesnt have summary about the goods, just it said 0 percent goods transported
16:29:55  <Alberth> do you have a station that accepts goods already?
16:30:06  <glx> did you effectively transported goods?
16:30:13  <strongfrakk> Alberth:you mean at city ?
16:30:19  <glx> yes
16:30:25  <Alberth> no at the factory
16:30:52  <strongfrakk> Alberth:can factory accept good ?
16:30:53  <glx> factory produces goods, it usually doesn't accept them :)
16:31:00  <strongfrakk> unlike it produces goods
16:31:24  <Alberth> it produces goods, and if you accept them, they get transported from the factory to your train
16:31:41  <strongfrakk> so i need two station with goods transport between the factory and the city
16:31:50  <Alberth> just like eg coal from a mine
16:32:11  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: think about it as a demand-supply scenario
16:32:11  <Alberth> yes, one at the factory and one at the city.
16:32:14  <glx> you can reuse the grain station
16:32:46  <Alberth> if you transport coal, you do the same. you have 1 station at the mine, and one at the power plant
16:32:50  <strongfrakk> ok thanks, i know the basic transport directions, but there is description about city and goods
16:33:21  <strongfrakk> i havent found guide for it
16:33:56  <strongfrakk> there is not :)
16:34:12  <Alberth> it is not different from any other cargo. It is just that it only gets manufactured if you supply the factory with raw materials
16:34:31  <strongfrakk> yes i have any supply
16:34:41  <strongfrakk> i have enough
16:35:01  <strongfrakk> ok im back to openttd
16:35:04  <strongfrakk> thanks again
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16:37:33  <strongfrakk> unfortunatelly, the factory said waiting : nothing
16:37:40  <strongfrakk> it means there is no available goods
16:38:09  <strongfrakk> but as i experienced the grain and livestock are transported well to factory
16:39:01  <strongfrakk> ups after one lap the goods has been apeared :)
16:39:11  <strongfrakk> i said nothing
16:39:31  <Phazorx> this is a failsafe measure to prevent station from producing something before you are ready to move it
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16:40:23  <Phazorx> industry will only consume cargo unti lthere is a somthing that takes what industry produces
16:41:20  <strongfrakk> who are you talking to ?
16:41:57  <Phazorx> as soon as you create a train/car/plane/ship that capable of carrying goods and make it load on station thatis within factories area of control it will start producing goods and you can move them
16:42:04  <Phazorx> apparently to an echo...
16:43:52  <strongfrakk> q: every broke down  wehicle can reach to Depo ?
16:44:40  <Sacro> no, they need a valid path
16:45:02  <strongfrakk> at the first sight they may can
16:45:22  <strongfrakk> Sacro: you state that sometimes they cant ?
16:45:33  <Sacro> Yerp
16:45:47  <Sacro> if they don't have a route to a valid depot then they can't get there
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16:46:33  <strongfrakk> Sacro: but if they have they will reach
16:46:45  <strongfrakk> Sacro: this is the one and only term ?
16:46:50  <strongfrakk> condition
16:47:46  <strongfrakk> is it worth to deal with trucks ?
16:50:22  <andythenorth> strongfrakk: yes if you use a better vehicle set like eGRVTS
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16:51:13  <strongfrakk> andythenorth:what is that ?
16:51:19  <strongfrakk> i have never head of
16:52:04  <andythenorth> In the OpenTTD title screen, try the 'Check Online Content' button.
16:52:22  <strongfrakk> is there any good guide for winner strategy ?
16:52:27  <andythenorth> Pretty clever.  Some smart people have made it easy to add things to the game.
16:52:49  <strongfrakk> im in game
16:53:12  <strongfrakk> i can reach it during the ongoing play ?
16:53:34  <strongfrakk> i have very thin income
16:54:43  <strongfrakk> after 4 years the income is more and more
16:54:53  <strongfrakk> it doesnt sound good
16:55:16  <guru3> 0.7.1... how time flies
16:55:45  <andythenorth> strongfrakk: go to the wrench icon, choose 'newgrf settings', then choose 'check online content'.
16:56:05  <Ammler> 7 years?
16:56:05  <strongfrakk> andythenorth:ok
16:56:08  <andythenorth> but you'd be better off starting a new game.  You're probably going out of business anyway :P
16:56:33  <strongfrakk> andythenorth: i have a feeling you are right
16:56:46  <andythenorth> That's the game sometines ;)
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16:57:17  <guru3> feels like 0.3.5 was just yesterday
16:58:24  <strongfrakk> andythenorth: i have it : extended wehicle and tram set eGRVTS
16:58:53  <strongfrakk> I will use it in next game
16:59:27  <strongfrakk> how many kind of cooperative game exist ?
16:59:43  <strongfrakk> just competitive ?
17:00:56  <guru3> there's openttdcoop
17:01:07  <guru3> and banzai for ipv6!
17:01:25  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16576 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix: show the line of the translation file that has the fault and not the line of the string in english.txt.
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17:01:48  <strongfrakk> guru3: can you explain them ?:)
17:02:13  <guru3> openttdcoop is a group of players that like to play cooperatively to build huge networks
17:02:22  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16577 /trunk/src/strgen/strgen.cpp: -Fix: signed/unsigned comparison
17:02:22  <guru3> there's nothing particularly defining about cooperative gameplay
17:02:30  <guru3> it all depends on the people playing
17:02:49  <strongfrakk> guru3:ok, i may know that i need more settings
17:03:16  <strongfrakk> guru3: in other words i may think it needs special game settings
17:03:22  <Wolfsherz> why have my trains breakdowns every few seconds?
17:03:36  <strongfrakk> guru3: you mean it depends on the players
17:03:37  <guru3> there are no special settings fo cooperative gameplay strongfrakk
17:03:41  <guru3> Wolfsherz: are you sending them to a depo
17:03:43  <guru3> strongfrakk: yes
17:03:49  <strongfrakk> guru3:thanks
17:04:00  <Wolfsherz> i already play with fewer breakdowns :/ yes, they are going to a depot on each roundtrip
17:04:10  <guru3> how old are they?
17:04:20  <guru3> what does reliability say in the train window?
17:04:24  <Wolfsherz> 3 years at max
17:04:37  <Wolfsherz> i'll check
17:05:00  <Wolfsherz> 82%
17:05:12  <strongfrakk> q:i have 2 underpopulated city how can i bust up the population ?
17:05:17  <strongfrakk> cities
17:05:30  <guru3> once a city has 5 stations being serviced they grow fast
17:05:55  <strongfrakk> you mean:has to have
17:05:58  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: provide local passanger and mail traffic to boost population growpth
17:06:03  <guru3> Wolfsherz: all of them?
17:06:09  <Phazorx> planing roads for cities also helps
17:06:29  <strongfrakk> i missed the mail tranportation , ehh my fault
17:06:32  <strongfrakk> im back :)
17:07:22  <Phazorx> and as far as cooperative play goes - #openttdcoop is the answer
17:07:26  <Wolfsherz> guru3, they are all between 79 and 83 % actually as this is a new game, its just 3 trains atm.
17:07:44  <Phazorx> they do things like http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/b/be/PSG142.png or http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/3/3b/PSG137.PNG
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17:09:24  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: ok, thanks , i should have thought there have own room
17:09:38  <strongfrakk> join /#openttdcoop
17:09:42  <strongfrakk> ups sorry
17:09:54  <strongfrakk> join /openttdcoop
17:10:02  <Ammler> Phazorx: you should show older images ;-)
17:10:14  <Phazorx> Ammler: i'm a lazy clicker
17:10:26  <Ammler> I meant around 50
17:10:28  <Phazorx> and i can not alay reffer o something like psg #65
17:10:37  <Phazorx> although it is imo the best
17:10:42  <Ammler> lol
17:11:06  <Ammler> Phazorx: check pz5
17:11:56  <Phazorx> tl3 maglev?
17:12:00  <Wolfsherz> and why do industries lower production when i service them?
17:12:01  <Phazorx> that's easy mode
17:12:29  <Ammler> well, it is the only >2k trains game I know.
17:12:58  <Phazorx> i like to count cars rather than trains lately
17:13:21  <Ammler> Mark: introduced a coop-index for ;-)
17:13:38  <Phazorx> so 2k * 6 (pz5) vs 1.6k*10 (psg65)
17:13:45  <Phazorx> or really?
17:13:57  <Phazorx> i hope it i close to my way of calculating it :)
17:14:20  <Ammler> run @wiki ci there
17:14:40  <Mark> lats of fast, long, trains on a small map gives a low rating
17:14:42  <Mark> lots
17:14:43  <Phazorx> conideting i'm on wiki already i think there should be easier way to get there
17:15:08  <Phazorx> Mark: 65 is diesel DB on 1024x512
17:15:20  <Phazorx> ~1600 TL5 train
17:16:10  <Yexo> good evening
17:16:20  <guru3> good evening
17:16:42  <Phazorx> Mark: i also accoun for amount of gods transfered and waiting
17:17:14  <Phazorx> havent found a way to account for track length tho but would be good
17:17:26  <Ammler> Sali Yexo
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17:18:29  <Ammler> Phazorx: yeah, mr someone should make a patch to count the tiles with tracks on it ;-)
17:18:41  <Phazorx> Ammler: not exactly
17:18:57  <Phazorx> i count onl these that are used by trains
17:19:17  <Ammler> and which tracks aren't?
17:19:20  <Phazorx> prio structures and things like that should not be accounted
17:19:49  <Phazorx> basicaly i realied on old_track patch
17:20:07  <Ammler> hehe, that is your all time liked patch :-)
17:20:17  <Phazorx> criteria was - "real tracks" are these where grass does not grow
17:20:25  * Ammler wonders, what happens with.
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17:20:45  <Phazorx> well it makes sense and it shows useless tracks, often pointing out mistakes
17:20:51  <Phazorx> i posted it on TT
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17:21:14  <Ammler> you?
17:21:22  <Phazorx> modded version
17:21:37  <Phazorx> since it borked when yapf came about
17:21:39  <Ammler> but that is years ago, too?
17:21:41  <Phazorx> they used same bits
17:21:52  <Phazorx> abut ayear or so i gess
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17:22:55  <Hirundo> I assume that by 'yapf' you mean YAPP / PBS
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17:23:37  <Phazorx> hmm... i mean what was around year ago and were designated as Yet Another Path Finder in settings
17:23:44  <Phazorx> pretty sure it was YAPF
17:23:53  <Phazorx> pbs wast around then
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17:26:02  <strongfrakk> how can i copy and paste the bus orders ?
17:26:25  <strongfrakk> q:building road it is very efficient
17:26:29  <strongfrakk> way
17:26:32  <strongfrakk> s
17:26:47  <guru3> when you're setting the vehicules' orders, click on the vehicule you want to copy
17:27:10  <Phazorx> or ctrl click when it is in depot, to make identical one with same orders
17:27:25  <guru3> ctrl clicking makes shared orders
17:27:28  <guru3> be aware of the difference
17:27:29  <Phazorx> ctrl click duplications
17:27:40  <Sacro> guru3: vehicle's
17:27:46  <guru3> -_-
17:27:49  <Phazorx> yeah it is sared orders correct
17:27:50  <guru3> it always trips me up
17:28:54  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: ok, using one ctrl is one thing but how and when i should use with the 2 bus at the same time ?
17:29:20  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: they are on own way
17:29:23  <guru3> as far as i know you have to do each one individually
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17:29:39  <guru3> (or can you set the orders to multiple vehicules simultaneously?)
17:30:23  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: if you want to copy orders do it guru3's way
17:30:34  <Phazorx> which is at scheduling state
17:31:00  <Phazorx> if you wanto doit as i sugegsted - when creating new vehicle you ctrl click one you want a copy of
17:31:34  <Phazorx> difference is "shared orders" in my case which means that i you change original orders - copies will inherit changes as well
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17:31:45  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: i cant imagine when they are far away to each other should i open their orders panel at the same time ?
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17:32:08  <Phazorx> only order panel of new one needs to be open as i recall
17:32:32  <Phazorx> and you click on another vehicle itself
17:32:54  <Phazorx> after clicking add omthing to schedule button
17:33:06  <Phazorx> i guess i should fite up the game and see what is it called now :)
17:33:11  <Phazorx> since it has been a while since i played
17:33:39  <strongfrakk> i need time to practice it
17:33:57  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: translators * r16578 /trunk/src/lang/ (russian.txt simplified_chinese.txt traditional_chinese.txt):
17:33:57  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2009-06-14 17:33:27
17:33:57  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: russian - 39 fixed, 121 changed by Lone Wolf (160)
17:33:57  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 3 fixed by ww9980 (3)
17:33:57  <CIA-6> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 3 fixed by ww9980 (3)
17:35:29  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: game has may shortcuts and advanced controls, you will learn them with time and that will speed up building things for sure
17:35:48  <guru3> 1-2-3-4-r
17:35:51  <guru3> the most useful keys i think
17:36:03  <Phazorx> x is hany
17:36:07  <Phazorx> as well as "del" :)
17:36:17  <guru3> i tend to just leave it transparent
17:36:25  <strongfrakk> i have tried the x
17:36:25  <Phazorx> some people become addicted to A and R
17:36:32  <strongfrakk> x is really great
17:36:41  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: beter yet - there is ctrl+x
17:36:58  <strongfrakk> as experienced the one way can confuse the buses
17:37:14  <guru3> i never never knew about ctrl x
17:37:29  <Phazorx> guru3:  you live you learn
17:37:35  <Phazorx> ;o)
17:37:46  <dihedral> guru3 just lives
17:37:52  <Phazorx> hola dih
17:37:56  <dihedral> at least nobody can prove he learns - he never says anything
17:38:00  <dihedral> hello Phazorx
17:38:01  <dihedral> :-)
17:38:04  <dihedral> nice to see you here
17:38:06  <Phazorx> still kicking?
17:38:09  <Phazorx> likewise :)
17:38:17  <guru3> learning would require i play a bit more often than i do
17:38:51  <dihedral> guru3: no sane person actually plays
17:39:02  <Phazorx> it's not amount of time, it's how you do it :)
17:39:07  <Phazorx> quantity vs quality...
17:39:19  <dihedral> yep, still kicking :-)
17:39:22  <guru3> i learned it all when i was pretty young so it's sort of ingrained in me
17:39:31  <guru3> it takes a lot of effort to crash a company into the ground
17:39:55  <Phazorx> it takes a lot of effort to keep thousands trains running :)
17:40:30  <guru3> i started playing when the limit was like... 127
17:40:39  <guru3> so i tend to avoid massive networks
17:40:50  <guru3> it shifts from "fun" to "work" at that point
17:40:56  <strongfrakk> can i maintain myself just from public transportation as a beginner ?
17:41:10  <guru3> if you've got a lot of patience you can
17:41:13  <guru3> but it's not easy
17:42:01  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: most efficient start is usualy a coal to powerplant on temperate
17:42:17  <guru3> oil, wood, and iron ore all work just as well
17:42:48  <Phazorx> find few relatively remote mines in same direction and drag lines to one powerstation, reusing tracks as much as possible
17:42:55  <strongfrakk> on temperate : i have never heard this english word :)
17:43:04  <guru3> temperate climate
17:43:12  <Phazorx> "default" climate called temperate in ottd
17:43:15  <guru3> areas like france, germany, the middle east coast US
17:43:27  <Phazorx> as well as tto/ttd actually
17:43:28  <strongfrakk> uhh mediterrain ?
17:43:47  <guru3> mediterrainen is just that :)
17:43:51  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: it has less o do with sea, more with calm stadey warm weather
17:43:59  <guru3> temperate climates are generally a bit cooler, ususally experiencing some snow
17:44:03  <strongfrakk> guru3: how long word , damn
17:44:14  <strongfrakk> ok i see
17:45:05  <Phazorx> guru3:  oil and wood have lower starting output
17:45:35  <guru3> it tends to work out about the same i think
17:45:35  <Phazorx> and for ore -  somehow i never i figured why but it is less income efficient than coal
17:45:47  <Phazorx> guru3: close but coal is still more efficient
17:45:54  <Phazorx> especially with smooth economy
17:46:07  <guru3> perhaps, but building either line is equally fun :3
17:46:30  <Phazorx> steel is better on long run
17:46:36  <Phazorx> since ten you can expand to factory
17:46:51  <Phazorx> but i came to adopt coopers point of view
17:47:04  <guru3> starting with coal eh
17:47:07  <Phazorx> where moneymakre is a steem train, one engy ninecars
17:47:13  <guru3> you know... that was my idea originally :3
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17:48:07  <Ammler> Phazorx: current coopers don't use coal anymore ;-)
17:48:11  <guru3> did sort of wonder why there was someone who so closely shared my views
17:48:19  <Ammler> they use pax
17:48:21  <Phazorx> Ammler: i don't believe you
17:48:24  <Phazorx> that's silly
17:48:37  <Phazorx> same coopers i used to know would not do a thing like that
17:48:39  <Ammler> well, we might be to old ;-)
17:48:41  <Ammler> +o
17:48:48  <Phazorx> i am for sure
17:48:51  <Phazorx> at least i been told so
17:49:27  <Ammler> but pax is the best MM, as you make income on both ways.
17:49:37  <guru3> pax?
17:49:41  <Phazorx> but you need faster and more expensive trains
17:49:52  <Phazorx> and you need to boost towns
17:49:58  <Phazorx> and have iternal pax in them
17:50:01  <Xaroth> passengers
17:50:09  <Phazorx> you end up with more on a long run
17:50:18  <Phazorx> but i'd rather sepnd that timeplannig :)
17:50:18  <guru3> coop has infinite time to start the game though
17:50:28  <guru3> so i could see why they do it
17:50:31  <Phazorx> guru3: lmited by fun factor
17:50:48  <guru3> well that's why i started the coal thing
17:51:00  <Ammler> you "walk" over around 4 towns which feeds the airport
17:51:17  <Ammler> then you use the 1/1 speed cheat
17:51:19  <Phazorx> oh... now we walk to do MM?
17:51:26  <Phazorx> and cheat?
17:51:31  <Ammler> coopers do :P
17:51:34  <Phazorx> this world is commin to the end i tell ya
17:51:55  <Ammler> indeed :-(
17:52:13  <Phazorx> and coopers i thought would be last to ad to mayhem
17:52:55  <dihedral> 1/1 speed for the speed of planes is not a cheat
17:53:00  <Ammler> well, money was never motivation for coopers, but we have some other gametypes, where could be interesting, like coopetition
17:53:15  <guru3> ah yeah that's moderately interesting
17:53:21  <guru3> i lost spectacularly the one time i played
17:54:08  <Ammler> that is also around 2-3 years ;-)
17:54:33  <Phazorx> brb, need to switch stations
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17:54:41  <dihedral> when is the next wwottdgd?
17:55:08  <Ammler> the scenario creator just left ;-)
17:55:19  <dihedral> ah - nice
17:55:41  <dihedral> how is the rest coming along
17:56:01  <petern> SHALL I HAVE A BEER?
17:56:07  <dihedral> YES
17:56:19  <Ammler> TOO EARLY
17:56:43  <andythenorth> HAVE A TEA
17:57:13  <petern> 7pm is not too early
17:57:43  <strongfrakk> there is no time when it is early :)
17:59:08  <strongfrakk> is there any more way to making profit from the population than public transportation ?
17:59:41  <Ammler> hmm, true for the uk
17:59:47  <guru3> mail
17:59:59  <glx> taxes :)
18:00:06  <glx> but that's not in ottd ;)
18:00:25  <strongfrakk> i have still missed the mail
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18:01:24  <strongfrakk> what kind of facilites serves as the endpoints of mail transfer ?
18:01:30  <strongfrakk> sorry my difficult english
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18:01:38  <glx> lorry bay
18:01:48  <Phazorx> mail acceopted and generated by same kind of buildings
18:01:50  <guru3> or train stations
18:02:13  <Phazorx> so if station you create accepts mail it will produce it as well and visaversa
18:02:49  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: i have only bus stations
18:04:22  <strongfrakk> i have bus station with 600 waiting passenger :)
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18:06:58  <Phazorx> strongfrakk: think about real life, how often you seen a bus to pickup mail on bus stations?
18:07:14  <Phazorx> and waiting pax impares your rating
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18:07:25  <Phazorx> which makes harder to build in same town
18:07:35  <strongfrakk> ok ok it is just 3th try with openttd
18:07:56  <strongfrakk> my income is just turned up
18:07:57  <Phazorx> i'm not blaming you, just pointing out less obvios things
18:08:08  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: ok i see
18:08:29  <Phazorx> game is not "real life" as much as many opther but common sense applies
18:08:46  <Phazorx> like there is a banking system that can give out loans
18:09:01  <Phazorx> and subsidies to earn a bit more (not really worth it)
18:09:24  <strongfrakk> i have to check : subsidy
18:09:33  <Phazorx> but interest on loan as well as track construction costs are factors to consider as well
18:09:40  <strongfrakk> in the dict. :)
18:09:53  <Phazorx> what is your native language?
18:10:10  <strongfrakk> hungarian
18:10:38  <Phazorx> t?mogat?s?
18:10:48  <Phazorx> cant do diactrics :(
18:11:59  <strongfrakk> support ?
18:12:10  <strongfrakk> i like using english
18:12:17  <strongfrakk> dont mind
18:12:44  <Phazorx> err.. a city counsil decdes that thye need something done and put up a project for open bidding
18:12:51  <Phazorx> like deliver this from here to here
18:13:10  <Phazorx> company what acomplishes this 1st get's a multiplier on income from this route
18:13:14  <strongfrakk> ok i get it, the dict said it is like support, financial support
18:13:19  <Phazorx> depending on game settings it could be x4
18:13:36  <Phazorx> it is financial support per say but it is for specific project
18:14:17  <strongfrakk> per say ?:)
18:14:36  <Phazorx> "sort of"
18:15:27  <strongfrakk> are they same ?
18:16:22  <Phazorx> not really but in this context "per say" and "sort of" have close meaning
18:16:42  <strongfrakk> Phazorx: ok, thanks
18:17:20  <strongfrakk> i can hold up myself just for public transportation, slowly but surely :)
18:17:55  <petern> not really
18:17:58  <petern> it's "per se"
18:18:01  <strongfrakk> it is good sign because i cant fail
18:18:54  <Phazorx> petern: latin versus american :)
18:19:17  <petern> no, correct spelling versus idiots
18:19:25  <Phazorx> isnt it same thing?
18:19:37  <Chruker> caring vs giving a damn
18:19:48  <Chruker> ;-)
18:19:57  <strongfrakk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_se
18:20:07  <strongfrakk> it is high for me
18:22:52  * Tefad sighs
18:22:56  <Tefad> l2spell
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18:34:37  <strongfrakk> how can i make a curve by railroad ?
18:34:52  <dihedral> ....
18:35:06  <dihedral> find all your questions answered by wiki.openttd.org
18:35:08  <dihedral> :-P
18:35:53  <strongfrakk> oh, thanks i should have known
18:38:00  <strongfrakk> i have it the crossroad can have more position
18:39:12  <strongfrakk> building railroad is not to cheap construciton
18:39:22  <strongfrakk> too
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21:53:59  <Nite_Owl> Hello all
21:54:10  <Chruker> howdy
21:54:21  <nicfer> hey there
21:54:40  <Nite_Owl> Hello Chruker & nicfer
21:55:18  <nicfer> openttd has some 'air' of city building game
21:55:28  <nicfer> since you can make them grow
21:57:06  <Nite_Owl> yes but it is not a main goal unless you want it it to be
21:57:23  <nicfer> well, anyways openttd is a game with no goal
21:57:36  <nicfer> that's the best part of the game
21:57:43  <Chruker> blasfemi!
21:57:48  <nicfer> you decide what to focus on
21:57:54  <nicfer> this is madness!
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22:01:54  <petern> THIS IS SPARTA
22:02:07  <Rubidium> CHARGE!
22:02:35  <nicfer> *kicks persian into pit*
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22:10:52  <Nite_Owl> "So Bobby do you like gladiator movies?"
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22:25:07  <knl> am i the only one who can't go on www.openttd.org :\
22:25:30  <Chruker> works here
22:25:36  <knl> huh... it worked now
22:25:37  <knl> o_o
22:25:47  <Chruker> its the gremlins
22:26:00  <knl> is it safe to update from >random nightly build
22:26:03  <knl> to 0.7.1
22:26:15  <knl> considering i have some ECS stuff
22:26:35  <Chruker> that I dont know
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22:29:12  <knl> also why won't the companies grow ever :(
22:29:53  <Chruker> The 0.7 versions doesnt have a default AI, you need to download one of those that are available in the online content browser
22:30:20  <knl> AI for enemies, or AI for everything?
22:30:25  <Chruker> enemies
22:30:36  <knl> i usually don't play with enemies so that's fine
22:30:47  <knl> though i was playing once and was amazed at how ridiculous they can be...
22:31:03  <knl> this one guy spent over 200k trying to build tracks from A to B
22:31:05  <Chruker> What do you then mean by companies wont grow?
22:31:14  <knl> i have this ECS steel mill
22:31:23  <knl> has tons of materials waiting to be processed
22:31:23  <Mist> ECS?
22:31:30  <knl> yet its production is really low
22:31:38  <knl> a lot of companies are like that
22:31:44  <knl> everytime i get a subsidy for, say, coal
22:31:50  <knl> i check the mine and it says 40tons/month
22:31:51  <knl> :|
22:33:51  <Chruker> Doesnt it go up when you start moving coal for it?
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22:35:09  <knl> i never really noticed if they do
22:35:21  <knl> i figured they would, but it's still really unstable
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22:43:45  <Nite_Owl> how much coal is waiting at the station
22:45:38  <knl> i dunno, train is loading
22:45:43  <knl> production went 10k one month, down 10k the next
22:45:47  <glx> knl: if your nightly is from after 0.7 branch, your savegames may fail to load
22:45:48  <knl> er 10 tons
22:46:00  <knl> I think my nightly is from before that
22:46:16  <knl> it's sort of hard to tell from version number but mine is 14757
22:46:22  <knl> pretty old :|
22:46:53  <glx> it's ok then (0.7 branch is 15734)
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22:59:00  <Phazorx> knl: with smooth economy more you tranport (higher rating at industry) more chance of production increase
22:59:49  <Phazorx> w/o smooth economy 66% raiting is a limitter, below it there is mroe chance of radical decrease, above same with increase
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23:16:47  <Ammler> good night tycooner
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23:21:44  <Eddi|zuHause> <nicfer> *kicks persian into pit* <- a persian carpet or a persian cat?
23:22:08  <nicfer> it was a 300 reference
23:22:22  <nicfer> I meant the persian dude that was kicked by Leonidas
23:22:57  <nicfer> only a joke, doesn't matte
23:23:27  <Eddi|zuHause> <knl> is it safe to update from >random nightly build to 0.7.1 <- NO. only nightlies before 0.7.0-beta can be updated to 0.7
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23:23:39  <Eddi|zuHause> all other nightlies are 0.8-alpha
23:23:54  <Eddi|zuHause> and would be a downgrade to 0.7.1
23:24:00  <Eddi|zuHause> which means savegames will not load, etc.
23:25:55  <Eddi|zuHause> <knl> also why won't the companies grow ever :( <- afair ECS requires over 70% transported for industries to increase production
23:26:10  <Eddi|zuHause> so a statue in the city might help
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23:33:42  <knl> hrm, and i suppose it depends on the city's size?
23:33:52  <knl> because the city said coal mine belongs to is pretty small
23:34:16  <Belugas> city lies
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23:41:30  <HackaLittleBit> evenin
23:41:42  <knl> evening
23:41:55  <SmatZ> late evening
23:42:07  <HackaLittleBit> very late
23:42:41  <SmatZ> HackaLittleBit: your time is 00:42?
23:43:00  <HackaLittleBit> correct
23:43:07  <HackaLittleBit> 0.43
23:43:16  <SmatZ> portugal is in different timezone?
23:43:33  <SmatZ> than most of Europe :)
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23:43:57  <SmatZ> ah, it is!
23:44:01  <SmatZ> I didn't know that
23:44:04  <SmatZ> interesting :)
23:44:13  <HackaLittleBit> It is terrible
23:44:18  * SmatZ feels like a fool now :-/
23:44:54  <HackaLittleBit> SmatZ: did anybody complain about game crash  when oil platform is removed?
23:45:23  <SmatZ> HackaLittleBit: it crashes? :(
23:45:25  <SmatZ> in 0.7.1?
23:45:38  <HackaLittleBit> The only thing I can give you is safegame
23:45:46  <HackaLittleBit> trunk
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23:47:03  <HackaLittleBit> The thing is I am not shure if it is the reason of the crASH
23:48:02  <SmatZ> please submit a bugreport :)
23:48:09  <SmatZ> is it reproducible?
23:48:15  <HackaLittleBit> yes
23:48:28  <HackaLittleBit> 31 of november
23:48:35  <HackaLittleBit> ill send it
23:49:25  <SmatZ> ok, I can't reproduce it, valgrind doesn't complain :-x
23:49:31  <SmatZ> your savegame will be needed
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23:51:11  <SmatZ> HackaLittleBit: are you opening a bugreport?
23:51:31  <HackaLittleBit> yes busy with that now
23:51:40  <SmatZ> thanks :)
23:53:57  <knl> smatz
23:54:01  <knl>  why did you time me anyways
23:54:25  <SmatZ> knl: I was interested in if it's really "evening" for you
23:54:31  <knl> :|
23:54:32  <SmatZ> and I don't know you...
23:54:34  <knl> yes even in brazil
23:55:00  <SmatZ> maybe it would be easier if I whoised you :-/
23:55:10  <knl> xd
23:56:47  <HackaLittleBit> its there :)
23:57:01  <HackaLittleBit> #2979
23:57:09  <SmatZ> thanks, HackaLittleBit
23:57:25  <HackaLittleBit> ok good night, sleeping time
23:57:50  <SmatZ> knl: our family had a friend in Brasil (in Barretos), and we were planning to visit him someday, but he died already :-/
23:57:55  <SmatZ> good night, HackaLittleBit
23:57:58  <knl> D:
23:58:14  <knl> i'm sorry
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23:58:33  <SmatZ> thanks

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