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You may wake the lions. 08:14:29 <planetmaker> And then the crying starts... 08:15:30 <SirSquidness> It's alright 08:15:32 <SirSquidness> I'm in a car. 08:17:03 <SmatZ> :) 08:19:34 <dihedral> what if that lion was in that car too? 08:19:52 <dihedral> then at least all the blood would not squirt all over the place 08:20:05 <dihedral> and your germs would remain 'contained' 08:20:16 <dihedral> :-P 08:20:45 <SmatZ> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Lion :-p 08:21:22 <SirSquidness> this is a good point, dihedral 08:21:29 <SirSquidness> I hadn' tconsidered that possibility 08:21:51 <SirSquidness> but I dare say if a Lion was in my car, it would have great trouble moving about trying to bite my head off 08:21:54 <SirSquidness> due to it's size. 08:23:09 <dihedral> i think you would have more trouble :-P 08:23:20 <dihedral> either side of a big cat aint that nice 08:26:39 <dihedral> SmatZ, pretty bad once lions taste human flesh 08:27:20 <dihedral> it's sweeter than other meat, and lions tend to then try to get hold of more human flesh 08:27:28 <SmatZ> ummm :) 08:27:37 * SmatZ never tasted 08:27:58 <dihedral> bite your finger, then go to a cow and bite it's arse :-D 08:28:11 <dihedral> *bit :-P 08:28:15 <SmatZ> :) 08:28:23 <dihedral> not 'byte' you'll miss the chunk after some time :_D 08:28:27 <SmatZ> :-P 08:29:40 <z-MaTRiX> hello :) 08:30:05 <SmatZ> hello 08:32:45 * SirSquidness sniggers at dihedral's lame joke 08:32:46 <SirSquidness> =D 08:33:35 <dihedral> i am disappointed with the forums :-( 08:33:41 <dihedral> they are not what they used to be :-P 08:36:29 <SirSquidness> I can't say I have an opinion on this matter. 08:36:37 <SirSquidness> I don't even have an account there :p 08:37:45 <dihedral> dont think it would make an improvement 08:39:02 <petern> urgh 08:39:09 <petern> slow shit pc is slow shit 08:40:15 <dihedral> you make sense! 08:40:16 <dihedral> :-P 08:41:06 <SirSquidness> obvious statement is obvious? 08:43:42 <Noldo> redundancy is redundant 08:44:54 *** Audigex [~audigex@89.240.145.155] has quit [] 08:49:13 <SirSquidness> unless the primary service has died, and fallen over to the redundant service, in which case teh redudancy is no longer redundant. 08:56:29 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:56:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 09:07:43 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeae3.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 09:10:25 *** reldred [~reldred@115.131.210.62] has joined #openttd 09:20:58 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:33:12 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16691 /trunk/src/texteff.cpp: -Codechange: what's the point of getting the fifth dparam and then using that as the second dparam later on? Especially when the fifth dparam is never set and the second dparam is never used. 09:36:38 <petern> errr 09:36:44 *** divo [~asd@0x3e42e6e6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 09:43:22 <fonsinchen> Hehe, Rubidium is reading my patches :) 09:45:20 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeae3.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50:27 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:51:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 09:58:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:59:02 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 10:02:01 *** J_Darnley [~jamesdarn@d54C280AB.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:46 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:25 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:09:23 *** FloSoft 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or if it enables in client than it will work for that client 18:03:16 <Rubidium> it's a per company setting 18:04:07 <COLDICE> okies 18:05:43 <COLDICE> thank you 18:05:45 <COLDICE> take care 18:05:53 *** COLDICE [~hm@116.71.78.32] has quit [] 18:10:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcfea.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:43 <z-MaTRiX> heyho 18:19:45 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:24:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@90.242.178.243] has joined #openttd 18:51:08 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 18:55:24 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@90.242.178.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:31 *** alloc [~alloc@67.222.157.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:00 *** alloc [~alloc@67.222.157.17] has joined #openttd 19:00:08 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcfea.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 19:01:24 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has 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19:22:16 <SpComb> nobody told me that 19:22:31 <alloc> how do I make my own map? 19:22:37 <Ammler> Rubidium: you meant "should" ? 19:22:42 *** alloc [~alloc@67.222.157.17] has left #openttd [] 19:22:53 *** Ammler was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [no] 19:23:03 *** Ammler [~ammler@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 19:23:09 <Rubidium> see, even you left 19:23:40 <Ammler> he, indeed, worked :-D 19:23:46 <rortom> what time is it? xD 19:24:08 *** rortom was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [twenty seconds before your kick] 19:24:08 *** rortom [~rortom@p508EBEF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:17 <rortom> yay ;) 19:24:20 <rortom> and good evening :) 19:24:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:24:57 <Sacro> will i get kicked if i ask a question? 19:25:07 <Ammler> omg 19:25:09 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*ben@150.237.48.*] by Rubidium 19:25:09 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Rubidium [yes] 19:25:49 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 19:30:52 <petern> wait 19:31:01 <petern> r16693 fixes r16883? 19:31:15 <gleeb> Makes sense to me. 19:31:17 <glx> nice one 19:31:29 <petern> at least i was only one revision out when i did it ;) 19:31:46 <Rubidium> yes 19:32:13 <glx> so we should reserve r16883 to readd the bug :) 19:32:37 <Rubidium> guess I need glasses; those 6s and 8s look so much alike 19:35:48 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 19:36:37 <petern> join us! 19:36:44 <Belugas> heheh.. like my boss who mixes up "cottage" with "cctagp1" 19:39:01 <Rubidium> or should I blame it on (number) dyslexia? 19:39:32 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.161.138] has left #openttd [] 19:40:21 <Belugas> Alain, leave that Body! I Summon YOU! 19:41:57 *** andytheni [~andytheno@ammler.ch] has joined #openttd 19:42:22 * Rubidium ponders annoying some cheaters, though doing so might upset others too 19:43:28 <petern> do it! 19:44:32 <Ammler> Rubidium: station teleport? 19:44:58 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:42 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 19:49:45 <petern> what's a station teleport? 19:50:10 <Belugas> a station that moves back in forth in time, it's part of the project Darma 19:52:07 <LadyHawk> lol poor sacro 19:52:25 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@port-92-192-75-65.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 19:52:29 <glx> Belugas: don't spoil me :) 19:52:41 *** andytheni [~andytheno@ammler.ch] has left #openttd [] 19:53:18 <Belugas> hehe 19:55:03 <Belugas> what amazes me, as the series progress,is the complexity of the story. I really hope the ending will be as impressive as the build up 19:55:22 <petern> oh 19:55:27 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*ben@150.237.48.*] by petern 19:55:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16694 /trunk/src/ (13 files in 2 dirs): 19:55:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#2995] (rgradual loading, rnewindustries): only pay for whatever has been actually unloaded and perform the payment when unloading has finished. This fixes, amongst others: 19:55:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: * cheating by starting to unload and after getting paid rushing to the depot to get sold (or unloading, loading and getting paid again for the remainder) 19:55:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: * cargo being dropped onto a station at the moment a stockpiling industry doesn't accept it anymore 19:55:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: * industries getting cargo that has not been unloaded yet and subsequently dumping it back on the station in one go 19:55:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Note: you will now get paid after the unloading has finished, so you'll have to wait a bit longer for 'your' money. 19:56:57 <Prof_Frink> "rgradual"? 19:57:10 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@port-92-192-75-65.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [] 19:57:40 <Rubidium> my CFLAGS don't have -pedantic 19:58:30 <petern> obviously Ammler has a different unreported cheat in mind 19:58:35 <petern> (or he made it up) 20:00:25 <Ammler> petern: you self reported it :P 20:00:34 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:58 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 20:01:04 <Ammler> at least you complained once about here... 20:01:12 <petern> lies 20:01:22 <Ammler> :-) 20:01:59 <petern> are you referring to the possibilities opened up by distant join? 20:02:37 <Ammler> no, that was possible before, just easier now. 20:02:46 <petern> okay 20:02:51 <petern> then i don't care 20:03:06 <petern> because i'd rather get blood out of a stone than eke a sensible response from you 20:03:22 <Rubidium> Ammler: that's something that 'can' be easily resolved by disallowing distant join and non-uniform stations 20:03:23 <Ammler> the problem is, it pays for the distance between stations signs., instead of nearest station tile. 20:03:28 <Rubidium> or reducing the station spread 20:04:41 <Ammler> yes, the Goal server had a spread of 8 :-) 20:05:47 <Ammler> we used 12 for competive games. 20:07:45 <Ammler> hmm, non-uniform might be an idea to try on next game. 20:08:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:09:04 <LadyHawk> cheating by starting to unload and after getting paid rushing to the depot to get sold (or unloading, loading and getting paid again for the remainder) 20:09:24 <LadyHawk> lol, if that was a cheat i'm afraid i'm guilty 20:10:18 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 20:10:22 <Sacro> ah ha 20:12:51 <SpComb> ha ha ha 20:14:12 <LadyHawk> i used to let trains get paid before sending them to train heaven 20:14:52 <Korenn> LadyHawk: the cheat was to send the train to depot before it was fully unloaded, but after you got paid. 20:15:00 <LadyHawk> yeah i know 20:15:14 <LadyHawk> train arrives, gets paid, starts unloading but the depot order makes it go 20:15:23 <Korenn> ok. it's not much of an exploit for human players, but AI can do it for every single vehicle :P 20:15:23 <LadyHawk> then you can skip orders and repeat 20:15:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:08 <LadyHawk> yeah 20:16:18 <LadyHawk> too much hassle to do for 1 train, let alone for 3 20:16:23 <LadyHawk> or 100s 20:16:46 <Korenn> imagine an AI doing it with 400 trucks, all the time. That's Rondje om de kerk-AI ;) 20:17:10 <Ammler> [22:15] <LadyHawk> then you can skip orders and repeat <-- did you get paid again? 20:17:14 <Ammler> no 20:17:23 <LadyHawk> i always let it return to the loading station 20:17:56 <LadyHawk> fills up the cars and changes whatever it is so it thinks the train has only just fully loaded itself 20:18:01 <Ammler> what happened with the cargo you have still loaded? 20:18:09 <Korenn> ammler: it would get overwritten 20:18:11 <LadyHawk> the old car data gets 'overwritten' 20:18:13 <Korenn> so taht works 20:18:14 <LadyHawk> by the new 20:18:18 <Korenn> or used to work 20:18:49 <LadyHawk> cuz trains happened to unload a little bit from ALL cars at same time 20:18:56 <Rubidium> cargo that was loaded and 'paid for' would stay 'paid for' as long as it remained in the vehicle 20:18:57 <LadyHawk> instead of 1 car at a time 20:18:59 <Ammler> but it means, it get full again very fast 20:19:08 <LadyHawk> yeh 20:19:14 <Rubidium> loading anything extra into the vehicle won't change the 'paid for' status 20:19:21 <Korenn> Rubidium: but as soon as you loaded a bit of extra cargo, those flags were overwritten, in older versions 20:19:35 <LadyHawk> guess i musta been out of the loop too long as well 20:19:45 <LadyHawk> last time i sat in this channel was years ago 20:20:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:01 <Rubidium> Korenn: older as in before 0.6 20:20:07 <Korenn> yes 20:20:08 <LadyHawk> Ammler wasn't even here yet =P 20:20:48 * dihedral likes the SR-71 20:26:00 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 20:28:16 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:34:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20:35:47 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:39:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fcfea.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40:00 *** dpaanlka [~dpaanlka@c-67-175-241-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:23 <dpaanlka> Hello! I'm trying to start a dedicated server from the Mac OS X command line. 20:40:51 <dpaanlka> Version 0.7.1. Anyways, instead of doing what it used to do, it's launching the OpenTTD application (gui version) and then gives me the cannot find sample.cat error 20:41:03 <dpaanlka> I'm typing ./openttd -D and also doing that as a sudo 20:41:11 <Belugas> do you have that file? 20:41:13 <dpaanlka> Yes 20:41:22 <dpaanlka> I can play the game fine if I just launch OpenTTD in Mac OS X normally 20:41:35 <dpaanlka> Also, it is doing this on two different computers of mine. 20:41:38 <Belugas> oh... Mac OS... sorry, cannot help 20:41:46 <Eddi|zuHause> can you try with -d misc=3 and tell what it thinks the personal dir is? 20:42:20 <dpaanlka> That returned a lot of lines which am I looking for? 20:42:45 <dpaanlka> Oh... /Users/dpaanlka/Documents/OpenTTD 20:42:52 <dpaanlka> Is that where the cat file and stuff should be? 20:42:59 <dpaanlka> Because right now it's just in a "Data" folder in the applicaiton folder 20:43:15 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, try to put it there 20:43:42 <dpaanlka> Tadaa 20:43:46 <dpaanlka> I don't remember ever having to do that before? 20:43:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't help with that... ;) 20:44:07 <dpaanlka> Like, perhaps that changed in 0.7.x? 20:44:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it shouldn't have changed since 0.6 20:44:51 <planetmaker> dpaanlka: :( you didn't read my answer in the forums... :( 20:44:58 <dpaanlka> Oh, I must have just missed it 20:45:13 <dpaanlka> Er... what answer? 20:45:26 <planetmaker> I tell you exactly that: use your personal ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data folder for the files :) 20:45:42 <dpaanlka> I don't see any such response to my thread 20:46:30 <planetmaker> hm... I don't either now. I'm positive I posted... Maybe my wifi ate it. Nvm and sorry then. 20:46:39 <dpaanlka> lol ok well 20:46:43 <dihedral> whats with the /Library/Application Support/OpenTTD/data folder? 20:46:45 <dpaanlka> in any case thanks guys that was really befuddling me the past few days 20:46:49 <dihedral> i use that on my mac 20:47:10 <dpaanlka> I've always ptu the data folder next to OpenTTD.app in it's folder in the applications folder and that worked fine before 20:47:20 <planetmaker> dpaanlka: the readme tells you to use ~/Documents/OpenTTD/data 20:47:24 <planetmaker> I *think* 20:47:42 <dpaanlka> If it does, it probably didn't the last time i looked at it like four years ago lol 20:47:43 <planetmaker> That way you also don't need to copy it for several installs. 20:47:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-31-55-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:10 <dpaanlka> does this also apply to scripts and the cfg file? 20:49:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 20:49:08 <dpaanlka> Also, one more question... how do I kill the server in mac OS X/ 20:50:36 <glx> type exit in the console 20:50:41 <glx> or quit 20:51:09 <Belugas> easier, unplug the machine ^_^ 20:51:33 <Belugas> and mostly, don't listen to me when i'm listening to me 20:52:44 <dpaanlka> well thaks everyone 20:52:46 <dpaanlka> away i go 20:52:51 *** dpaanlka [~dpaanlka@c-67-175-241-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: dpaanlka] 20:54:42 * petern unplugs Belugas from his work 20:54:43 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 20:54:48 <rortom> @seen yorick 20:54:48 <DorpsGek> rortom: yorick was last seen in #openttd 2 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes, and 1 second ago: <yorick> I fixed it :) 20:55:35 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody ever warned you to not speak with yorick? :p 20:55:43 <Prof_Frink> Alas. 20:56:01 <petern> poor yorick 20:56:35 <rortom> :/ 20:59:05 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5af2b2f3.tcl127.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:05:55 <Belugas> a shame, really. 21:06:08 <Belugas> but youth... what can I say... 21:06:23 *** KUDr [~doctor@203.253.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [] 21:06:26 <Belugas> petern, you did not unplugged hard enough 21:07:36 <petern> crap 21:07:40 <petern> well, bed time i think 21:08:04 <andythenorth> I have slaved some more over hot pixels. The work is never done it seems: 21:08:04 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=799643#p799643 21:08:41 <rortom> looks nice :) 21:09:09 <Korenn> andythenorth: awesome 21:09:13 <Korenn> why is the grass blue? 21:09:14 <Korenn> :P 21:09:26 <andythenorth> Korenn: :P 21:09:53 <Hirundo> The grass pixels crashed and are showing a blue screen 21:10:16 <andythenorth> hmm users 21:11:30 <andythenorth> only 39 industries left to draw... 21:11:46 <Korenn> O.o I thought the number was lower before? 21:12:37 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:44 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:13:03 <andythenorth> well there are the 14 industries that Simon Foster drew for original TTD. We can reuse those for a while. But ultimately they might need redrawn... 21:13:17 <andythenorth> However that does only leave 25 to draw immediately 21:14:06 <rortom> that happened quite some time ago ... 21:14:18 <Belugas> mmh? 21:14:24 <Belugas> hem... 21:14:39 <Belugas> 14?? 21:14:43 <Belugas> only? 21:14:59 <andythenorth> (correction) 14 that I want to use 21:15:00 <Belugas> there are 37 original industries 21:15:07 <planetmaker> nice survey camp, andythenorth :) 21:15:11 <Belugas> all climate counted 21:15:12 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeae3.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:27 <Belugas> the system can handle up to 64 with grfs 21:16:37 <andythenorth> Belugas: do we have crossed wires? :) I am drawing 57 industries for FIRS, with 7 slots left free for add ons ;) 21:17:12 <andythenorth> Some days I wish I was drawing 1 industry with 63 slots left free for add ons 21:17:26 <planetmaker> haha :) 21:17:50 <petern> "the 14 industries that Simon Foster drew for original TTD" < not crossed, just vagueness ;) 21:18:13 <andythenorth> k 21:18:23 <andythenorth> Wonder where Simon Foster is? His site is down it seems 21:18:36 <andythenorth> oh, it's back again 21:19:21 <andythenorth> http://www.pixelswithpings.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ 21:19:25 <Belugas> i don't have wires. I have strings. 21:21:39 <andythenorth> Looks like Simon Foster is in Newcastle 21:35:16 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 21:40:06 *** dpaanlka [~dpaanlka@c-67-175-241-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:14 <dpaanlka> Hello, I've returned with a few other questions. 21:40:34 <dpaanlka> One of which is, I'm familiar with the way to change a client's name via a console command and rcon 21:40:44 <dpaanlka> However, I was hoping there was also a way to change a company name? 21:41:20 <dihedral> nope 21:41:35 <dpaanlka> I wonder why that is. 21:41:43 <rasco> good evening 21:41:55 <dihedral> if you need to change the company name, you can join the game, move yourself to that company, and change it 21:43:04 <dpaanlka> Yeah I know. 21:43:09 <dpaanlka> It'd just be a bit more convenient I think in console. 21:43:39 <dihedral> it's not needed very often ist it? 21:43:40 <dihedral> :-P 21:43:43 <rasco> is there any way to lower the passenger count? i already have very small towns. 21:44:00 <dihedral> blow up some houses? 21:44:04 <planetmaker> rasco: use a different building newgrf 21:44:35 <rasco> planetmaker: thanks for that hint. i didn't know building-grfs changed population counts. 21:44:37 <Ammler> rasco: early houses .grf :-) 21:45:10 <rasco> hope those grfs are in bananas 21:45:12 <planetmaker> ^^ hehe, yes :) 21:45:14 <rasco> lets see... 21:45:23 <Ammler> not for stable openttd :-) 21:45:25 <planetmaker> hm... not all building newgrfs are there 21:45:40 <planetmaker> get the #openttdcoop newgrf package. It has some more. 21:45:56 <rasco> about that package by the way 21:45:57 <planetmaker> I dunno anymore which add how many people to houses 21:46:02 <Ammler> planetmaker: he wants less :P 21:46:09 <planetmaker> Ammler: or remove :P 21:46:25 <planetmaker> IIRC playing with TTRS gives you big numbers of people 21:46:28 <rasco> it looks like it's uploaded to bananas, but i can't get the included grfs from there 21:46:51 <rasco> the big numbers of passengers are quite lame for planes :/ 21:46:57 <planetmaker> rasco: download from ingame, using the content download button 21:47:17 <planetmaker> if you cannot download it from ingame you cannot use it anyway. 21:47:28 <planetmaker> (if it's up on bananas at all that is) 21:47:36 <rasco> it seems to be uploaded wrongly 21:47:39 <Ammler> I once made a airmod.grf, which rises the loading time 21:47:51 <rasco> Ammler: i had the same idea too 21:48:10 <rasco> whats your best solution for planes yet? 21:48:16 <rasco> (to balance them) 21:48:19 <Ammler> not using 21:48:23 <rasco> heh okay 21:48:36 <Ammler> or reduce them to very few 21:48:45 <Ammler> around 5 or so 21:48:51 <rasco> what about higher running costs? 21:49:08 <Ammler> well, that is very hard to handle 21:49:23 <Ammler> basecosts does rise that. 21:49:45 <Ammler> it might be well at early years, but later you should again rise 21:50:16 <rasco> yea, either the modern planes are totally overpowered or the old planes are totally useless 21:50:27 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:50:30 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 21:51:33 <rasco> make the or an and 21:51:46 <Ammler> speak with the grf devs about, maybe the can "fix" the set 21:51:50 <rasco> OR the modern planes are too expensive and the old ones are even uslesser :) 21:52:12 <rasco> you mean av8? 21:52:13 <Ammler> making a openttd edition 21:52:29 <rasco> should do 21:53:15 <Ammler> dunno, if the plane speed factor is accessable from newgrfs 21:54:24 <Korenn> rasco: you could also lower the base price of passenger cargo 21:55:01 <Rubidium> Ammler: you can get the plane speed factor from NewGRFs 21:55:38 <Ammler> rasco: ^ , so it "should" be doable to balance them 21:55:41 <rasco> Korenn: is that only possible via a grf or can i also compile a custom network server with it? 21:56:03 <Korenn> grf, unfortunately 21:56:16 <rasco> know any existing one? 21:56:35 <Korenn> no, but it shouldn't be hard to write yourself. it's only 1 line 21:56:36 <Ammler> hmm, cargo payment is the save, afaik 21:56:41 <Rubidium> 'only' thing is that plane speed '3' isn't/can't be mapped correctly 21:56:43 <rasco> yea, some known set of balanced planes<->other vehicles would be good to have for openttd 21:56:52 <Ammler> so you could do it with server "hacking" 21:58:17 <Ammler> but then you would also have lower earnings for trains and rvs, do you want that? 21:58:41 <Ammler> so your game is again "unbalanced" 21:59:18 *** rortom [~rortom@p508EBEF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:00:41 *** dpaanlka [~dpaanlka@c-67-175-241-233.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: dpaanlka] 22:01:25 <rasco> i guess best solution would be to have pikka make a openttd variant of av8 :) 22:01:55 <Rubidium> Ammler: callback 39h maybe? 22:02:24 <Ammler> rasco: or use 1/4 speed 22:02:35 *** KUDr [~doctor@203.253.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:02:41 <Ammler> well, it does earn too much with 1/4 speed, either 22:03:57 <rasco> Ammler: been there, but it's just so weird some seeing planes going slower than slow trains 22:04:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:04:32 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeae3.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 22:05:00 <rasco> and also, oldskool planes are very useless then 22:05:02 <Ammler> rasco: that was the reason for the 1/1 patch ;-) 22:10:04 <rasco> afk cooking something out of random stuff that's left 22:10:14 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 22:11:50 <Belugas> fack feck fick fock fuck 22:11:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:18 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:18:26 *** sunkan [~Tarquin@90-224-108-233-no110.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> fsck 22:31:53 * Belugas is ungry, tired. /me wants to go home 22:31:57 <Belugas> pleeeeeeease!!!!! 22:36:27 *** CIA-8 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 22:36:27 *** CIA-2 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 22:36:34 *** CIA-8 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 22:44:22 <Belugas> wish granted 22:44:26 <Belugas> ciao 22:52:36 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 22:53:20 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:54:51 *** sunkan [~Tarquin@90-224-108-233-no110.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 22:59:21 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:21 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:10:55 *** reldred [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:11:54 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:25:50 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEeae3.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:15 *** reldred [~reldred@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C0C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77B34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:35 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5af2b2f3.tcl127.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:06 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:36:06 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:41:56 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-156-5-103.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:42:28 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.30.30] has quit [Quit: quit] 23:45:12 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FDCD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]