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[~progman@p57A1EFBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:23:10 *** Gekz [~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:23:39 *** Gekz [~gekko@123-243-206-102.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 08:30:40 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-132-4-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 08:31:14 <Limpaar> Hi everyone 08:31:26 <TrueBrain> hellow Limpaar 08:31:49 <Limpaar> I need help 08:32:24 <Limpaar> there is one button in ottd which seems to be very useful.. but I don't know how to use it 08:32:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the "new game" button, you click on it to start a new game :p 08:33:04 <Limpaar> when you open depo there is one button on the right in the bottom... info says something about automatic replacement 08:33:30 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: and here I was trying to keep such comments for myself :p 08:33:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you need to set up replacement rules 08:33:57 <Eddi|zuHause> open the vehicle list, there you click on "manage list"->"autoreplace" 08:35:07 <Limpaar> so I have to create a list? 08:35:16 <Limpaar> autoreplace is transparent 08:35:35 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 08:35:50 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to have vehicles first ;) 08:36:20 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [] 08:36:39 <Limpaar> yes I have 22 chimaera trains in the list (each lenght is 96 wagons) 08:37:08 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: yes, i do not have reached that level of mental control yet 08:37:16 <TrueBrain> I was suprised I had :) 08:38:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Limpaar: http://wiki.openttd.org/Autoreplace 08:38:53 <petern> win 11 08:39:09 <Limpaar> hmm... so this button is just ment to replace trains to newer types? 08:39:45 <Limpaar> but what about if I want to replace train to same train type 08:39:55 <Eddi|zuHause> well, there is also the "autorenew" setting 08:40:05 <Limpaar> fex if my trains are 40 yrs old and breaking down all the time :D 08:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause> it's in advanced settings->vehicles 08:40:33 <Limpaar> its network game... I can't change advanced settings 08:41:03 <Eddi|zuHause> you can change some of them 08:42:24 <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't think "fex" is an official abbreviation ;) 08:43:08 <Limpaar> isn't it?... I see "fex" in almost all manuals I use at work .. .lol 08:43:14 <Limpaar> fex = for example 08:43:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i learned to use "e.g." 08:43:50 <Limpaar> oh... good ... it works... (autorenew) ... thanx m8 08:44:01 <petern> fex? 08:44:03 <petern> oh 08:44:24 <petern> written like that in manuals? good god 08:44:28 <Limpaar> e.g. ... what that ment again? 08:44:42 <petern> exempli gratia 08:44:56 <petern> or "for example" 08:44:58 <Limpaar> example good ? 08:45:06 <petern> "for sake of an example" 08:45:17 <Limpaar> well ... what ever... everyone understood :D 08:45:27 <petern> no, Eddi|zuHause did 08:45:42 <Eddi|zuHause> no... i didn't (at first) 08:45:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i had to read it multiple times 08:46:01 <Eddi|zuHause> which you can't expect people in a chat to do 08:46:37 <Limpaar> chat is the place where people use most of cutting words into letter :D 08:46:49 <Limpaar> isn't it? 08:46:56 <Eddi|zuHause> no, those are sms-kiddies 08:46:56 <petern> not here 08:47:01 <petern> txtspk :s 08:47:43 <Limpaar> all kind of "yw, ty, gl, gm, lol, rotflol, etc etc" 08:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> we are grown ups here [well, sometimes], and know how to express ourselves in full words 08:48:21 <Limpaar> we all do... but we are lazy to type whole words 08:49:07 <Eddi|zuHause> typing a whole word is not slower than thinking of an abbreviation and then starting to type that 08:49:30 <Eddi|zuHause> an abbreviation in a foreign language 08:53:04 <Limpaar> if you visit chat where those are used a lot then you get use to it very fast and don't think before typing 08:54:26 <Limpaar> lol... I'm playing one network game where I have 22 trains and 18 road vehicles... and other guy have 218 planes and 46 trains... bet we have same income .. 08:58:14 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 08:59:59 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-13-36-59.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:38 <eQualizer> Eddi|zuHause: Just because you don't know all th abbrevations, doesn't mean they are less good than whole words. 09:03:54 <eQualizer> Most important thing in communication is... I don't remember the word in English. :D 09:04:02 <TrueBrain> that is indeed very important 09:04:27 <Rubidium> understanding? 09:04:32 <eQualizer> But if people understands abbrevations, then I don't see how they are less good than whole words. 09:04:37 <Rubidium> getting the message across? 09:04:38 <eQualizer> Rubidium: Yes! 09:04:50 <TrueBrain> eQualizer: but how do you know if people understand a given abbrevation? 09:05:09 <TrueBrain> I am sure if I use 'iig', Rubidium understand me 09:05:12 <TrueBrain> but ... you won't :p 09:06:52 <Rubidium> idd ;) 09:07:00 <TrueBrain> :) 09:07:14 <eQualizer> TrueBrain: True. But same goes for, lets say, medical terms. Some might understand, others not. 09:07:15 <Rubidium> though that means the same in Dutch and English 09:07:26 <TrueBrain> eQualizer: so isn't it better to avoid using those words? 09:07:35 <TrueBrain> we can all start talking medical here, but I am sure most will leave before lunch :) 09:07:38 <Rubidium> simple.wikipedia.org ! 09:07:57 <eQualizer> TrueBrain: Well yes, if it's know that people who are discussing don't know what all the abbreations mean. 09:08:30 <TrueBrain> so that does make Eddi|zuHause statement valid, doesn't it? That it is better to use whole words if you are not sure your audiance knows the abbrevation you want to use? :) 09:08:51 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:08:57 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: but not always 09:09:02 *** Limpaar [~Limpaar@84-50-132-4-dsl.rkv.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 09:09:17 <TrueBrain> true :) There are exceptions I guess :) 09:09:21 <Rubidium> for example: Deoxyribonucleic acid 09:09:38 <eQualizer> I got the impression from Eddi|zuHause that (s)he rates abbrevations lower than whole words. 09:09:39 <TrueBrain> LOL! If it isn't Rubidium who comes with some silly thing :) 09:10:03 <Noldo> LASER 09:10:14 <Noldo> RADAR 09:10:29 <TrueBrain> PHP 09:10:33 <TrueBrain> (I can do that too :p) 09:11:16 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.191.138] has joined #openttd 09:11:19 <TrueBrain> eQualizer: in my opinion, a few are fine .. but people nowedays overdo it .. the 'sms language' .. blegh :p 09:13:05 <eQualizer> I've read from somewhere that people who use a lot "sms language", are somehow better at something language related than those, who don't use "sms language". 09:13:13 <eQualizer> I could try to find that article... 09:13:21 <TrueBrain> yeah, I know what you mean 09:13:38 <TrueBrain> still ... some people really don't know any more how to write normal, not even in their native language :( 09:15:56 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 09:18:16 <eQualizer> If we're talking about english, I would say the problem is in the English's phonemic orthography. Meaning, you can't really tell how some word is pronounced if you haven't heard it before. For example bat and swap are both have "a", but are pronounced differently. Now reverse this, and I would say you're quite close for the reason why people write how they write... 09:18:38 <TrueBrain> it doesn't explain the things like: fex 09:18:42 <TrueBrain> which is just silly, in my opinion 09:19:01 <eQualizer> Fex? 09:19:14 <TrueBrain> haha .. clearly you missed why Eddi|zuHause said what he said :) 09:19:18 <TrueBrain> I rest my case :) 09:19:46 <eQualizer> Ah. :D 09:24:05 *** KUDr [~doctor@203.253.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [] 09:32:17 *** Xyzzy [~Albert@vc-41-192-91-146.umts.vodacom.co.za] has left #openttd [] 09:32:43 *** Xyzzy [~Albert@vc-41-192-91-146.umts.vodacom.co.za] has joined #openttd 09:48:43 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:50:45 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:01:18 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 10:04:37 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 10:04:41 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15:42 <dihedral> what is it with all these fucking idiots wanting to compile and dont know shit what they are doing! 10:16:49 <Noldo> they are newbies 10:16:58 <petern> dihedral, clue... "fucking idiots" 10:17:21 *** KUDr [~doctor@203.253.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:19:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.172.193] has joined #openttd 10:22:55 <LadyHawk> lol 10:24:33 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:27:04 <Rubidium> if the "idiots" would've been "fucking" they wouldn't have time to ask you that... 10:32:55 <blathijs> Better to have them ask stupid questions than to be reproducing themselves, so you should be glad! 10:34:17 <Noldo> :D 10:41:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EFBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41:52 <dihedral> nice one petern ^^ 10:44:02 <petern> heh 10:44:06 <petern> i just got an m-audio 2496 10:44:09 <petern> the box is huge 10:44:13 <petern> the card inside is... tiny 10:57:52 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has joined #openttd 11:01:03 *** Xyzzy [~Albert@vc-41-192-91-146.umts.vodacom.co.za] has left #openttd [] 11:20:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.220.18] has joined #openttd 11:21:26 <LadyHawk> huge box tiny card... reminds me of the package i had trouble with 11:21:53 <LadyHawk> they came delivering a padded envelope but noone was home 11:22:08 <LadyHawk> so i went to the postoffice to try and collect it for a friend, because he used my address 11:22:22 <LadyHawk> (he's in america, i'm in the uk) 11:22:38 <LadyHawk> postoffice wouldn't give it to me with passport + driving licence (proof of address) 11:22:52 <LadyHawk> managed to get them to redeliver it and i had to sign for it at the door 11:22:56 <LadyHawk> what do i find inside? 11:23:03 * LadyHawk digs up picture 11:23:03 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:23:45 <LadyHawk> http://LadyHawk.FlawlessCorruption.net/screens/eraser.JPG 11:23:53 <LadyHawk> that 11:24:08 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:25:47 <TrueBrain> at least Bjarni is more boring in his stories :p 11:27:38 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 11:28:05 <TrueBrain> andythenorth_ doesn't seem to like us very much .. keeps on join/leaving :p 11:28:13 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:28:13 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 11:45:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:54:10 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:01:01 *** Chruker [~no@0x5da34ce4.vjnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:04:17 <Eddi|zuHause> you still have stats? 12:04:55 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 12:05:06 <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me of a story 12:05:35 <Eddi|zuHause> there were two boys living near The Wall, and they found a spot where they could climb over it without being seen 12:05:42 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.191.138] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 12:05:44 <Eddi|zuHause> in the western part they went to the cinema 12:05:57 <Eddi|zuHause> they didn't have to pay when they said they only had eastern money 12:06:06 <Eddi|zuHause> after cinema they came back over The Wall 12:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause> they did that 15 times before they were caught 12:06:32 *** Zahl [~Zahl@78.52.191.138] has joined #openttd 12:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause> they later were convicted for leaving the GDR ("Republikflucht") 12:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause> but one of the persons associated with the court said: if it were up to me, they would get a medal for proving loyalty to the republic 15 times 12:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> (because they kept coming back) 12:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> have to move my computer now... may take a while... 12:10:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:55 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:25:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 12:27:07 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has joined #openttd 12:34:01 <Chruker> really, a place where they could climb over the wall without being seen? 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13:12:49 <SmatZ> ah 13:14:17 <TrueBrain> well, you told me in detail how I should solve this problem I am having :p 13:14:24 <TrueBrain> but that might have been a dream :( 13:15:23 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@client-82-13-36-59.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 13:16:13 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F615.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:23 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@client-82-13-36-59.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]] 13:25:51 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:28:37 *** Klanticus [~quassel@143.107.231.49] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:29:46 *** oskari89 [oskari89@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff7cc100-243.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 13:33:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r16728 /trunk/src/station_gui.cpp: -Fix (r14919): the Join station window didn't show all stations nearby in some cases 13:39:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82368.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:41:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83773.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:41:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:47:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:47:02 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47:06 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 13:59:23 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F615.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:03:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.209.217] has joined #openttd 14:04:20 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 14:08:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76D77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:08:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yay, it works! 14:08:50 <TrueBrain> concratz 14:09:05 <Eddi|zuHause> now i have another problem... 14:09:13 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i need an extension cord for the tv antenna 14:09:53 <TrueBrain> I need a surround system with 2 optical in ... which are not too expensive :p 14:10:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.172.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:22 <Eddi|zuHause> even worse... i have some spare antenna cords, but no connector for them... 14:12:12 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 14:15:28 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:59 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5440aa43.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:16:41 <TrueBrain> sometimes amazon.com gives me prices I can't believe .. a discount .. from 50 dollar to 0.01 dollar .. 14:17:06 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 14:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause> is that like "cell phone and computer for 1EUR", if you sign a 25 year contract? 14:18:30 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:19:23 <TrueBrain> nah, a TOS splitter .. 14:19:25 <TrueBrain> a bit weird .. 14:20:04 <tokai> TrueBrain: I once ordered notbooks from them for 10 EUR (or similar very small prices), but then too many ppl ordered it too and the corrected their DB and canceled the orders. :) 14:20:14 <tokai> the=they 14:20:20 <TrueBrain> sucks 14:20:26 <TrueBrain> the cancel part that is 14:20:39 <tokai> yeah:) 14:21:32 <TrueBrain> you can get a normal 5.1 set for like 50 euro ... but that requires analog input ... I don't have anything anymore with analog out :) And those stupid digital stuff cost ... a lot! (decode DTS and DS and stuff ...) 14:21:56 <TrueBrain> and the only piece of hardware which can convert it (DDTS-100) is no longer available in store .. argh! 14:22:00 <TrueBrain> I hate the world :p 14:24:28 * Belugas is happy with his analog-digital-analog system 14:24:48 <Belugas> although, i guess it's not the same as what yoyu are referring... 14:24:48 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 90 seconds.] 14:25:01 <TrueBrain> depends, if there is [567].1 involved ;) 14:25:49 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has joined #openttd 14:28:16 <Belugas> hem.. no, not really... 14:30:08 <TrueBrain> :) 14:30:40 <fonsinchen> I'd like to know how the "subscroll" in smallmap is supposed to work. Is there anyone around who knows that? 14:30:53 <TrueBrain> subscroll? 14:31:36 <fonsinchen> In smallmap the scroll in relation to the main viewport is defined by sroll_x, scroll_y and subscroll. 14:31:59 <fonsinchen> scroll_x and scroll_y determine the position in Tiles I think 14:32:08 <fonsinchen> and subscroll is some magic doing the rest 14:35:58 <fonsinchen> Even without zoom a tile can be several pixels large in the smallmap (I think up to 3), so subscroll is used to fix the exact position of the smallmap in relation to the main viewport. I don't know which values of subscroll lead to which kind of offset and the code in OnScroll is incredibly obscure. I just don't get what it's supposed to do. 14:38:21 <fonsinchen> Well, OK, I could have guessed that ... 14:40:03 *** Splex [~splex@c-24-245-55-70.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:25 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEad30.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:45:03 *** Klanticus [~quassel@monowall.cisc.usp.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:37 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... why did no MacGuyver episode ever tell how to build a BNC cable connector 14:46:50 <TrueBrain> because it is too easy? 14:46:56 <petern> you just need a paperclip... 14:47:13 <Eddi|zuHause> all material i have is two BNC cables 14:47:39 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and i have tesa film... 14:54:49 *** Xyzzy [c40fc9c9@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:59:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:00:18 *** maristo [~maristo@host217-114-156-151.pppoe.mark-itt.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00:35 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:09:05 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:09:06 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:09:09 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 15:12:23 <Aali> Is anyone in here up to speed on the GPL with regards to dynamic linking? 15:13:42 <TrueBrain> how do you mean? 15:14:03 <Aali> If I distribute an open-source .dll for use with another .dll that is not open, am I in trouble? 15:14:30 <Rubidium> that depends on the version I fear 15:15:08 <Aali> Hmm 15:15:10 <Rubidium> this'opinion' is based on the whole gcc discussion about an exception thhey needed for GPL v3 w.r.t. plugins 15:15:32 <SmatZ> isn't LGPL better for libraries? 15:15:35 <Aali> Well, the situation is even more complicated I guess 15:16:08 <Rubidium> which is due to using a GPL v3 API might be troublesome (makes it a derivative or so) 15:16:10 <Aali> I want to use ffmpeg in an open-source .dll that is loaded by a closed-source .dll 15:16:34 <Aali> Can I use the GPL version or do I have to settle for LGPL codecs? 15:17:03 * SmatZ would wonder if you could workaround GPL this way :) 15:17:11 *** Zuu [~Zuu@206.191.100.2] has joined #openttd 15:17:24 <Rubidium> SmatZ: the question is whether it's a derivative or not 15:17:31 <Eddi|zuHause> this is a problematic corner case, i think... you should talk to people with more legal insight... 15:19:21 <Rubidium> based on the hall-of-shame page at ffmpeg it's a *very* tricky area 15:19:26 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 15:20:23 <Rubidium> on the other hand, the legal page talks about incorporating FFmpeg in propriatary software 15:21:02 <Aali> This will not be used in any kind of commercial product, so I probably won't get in any legal trouble for it. 15:21:12 <Aali> I just want to do the right thing(tm) 15:24:55 <dihedral> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kXOg23pGeA 15:24:58 <dihedral> :-D 15:25:02 <dihedral> love that 15:25:21 <Rubidium> I think you should opt for the LGPL FFmpeg variant and make sure you distribute the source and especially the license of the FFmpeg you're using. I think it's fair to also mention what's being used somewhere in the manual/about window 15:26:14 <Rubidium> but I suggest to search the ffmpeg mailing lists for relevant threads 15:26:38 <Rubidium> and just to be sure: I'm not a lawyer and I don't speak/read lawyerese 15:30:45 <Eddi|zuHause> funny, this actually worked... 15:30:53 <Eddi|zuHause> i have TV ;) 15:31:00 <TrueBrain> concratz 15:31:05 <TrueBrain> I still don't have a 5.1 set :p 15:31:06 <Eddi|zuHause> now i can deliberately have it turned off :p 15:31:28 <Eddi|zuHause> because there's 300 channels and all are sending junk... 15:35:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EFBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:54 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:08 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 15:53:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0d37.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 16:01:43 <dihedral> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFelEa8wAIk <- 6min in :-) Walter on Terrorists ^^ 16:05:42 <Belugas> 196133 16:05:49 <Belugas> ooops 16:06:23 <SmatZ> tnx 16:10:18 *** stuffcorpse [~rick@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 16:20:25 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:25:31 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: that's kinda cut out of the middle, is there no more complete version? 16:35:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it starts in the middle of a sketch and ends in the middle of a sketch 16:35:24 <dihedral> check the related links ;-) 16:35:47 <dihedral> usually they are on the right hand side in youtube ^^ 16:38:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't open youtube links... 16:38:22 <Eddi|zuHause> my flash plugin is somewhat broken... 16:46:28 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:11 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:12 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:15 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 16:56:45 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 17:21:33 *** Klanticus [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:24:11 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:26:37 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.2] has joined #openttd 17:28:10 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:37 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:29:53 *** Klanticus [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:14 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:32 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has joined #openttd 17:34:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:24 *** Zuu [~Zuu@206.191.100.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:41:58 *** helb_ is now known as helb 17:43:01 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r16729 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 17:46:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 7 changes by planetmaker 17:46:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 2 changes by yitzc 17:46:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: indonesian - 28 changes by fanioz 17:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 1 changes by darkttd 17:46:10 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 85 changes by Tucalipe 17:48:30 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 17:50:19 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0BD02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:59 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:20 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:56:14 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F615.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:02:47 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-123-9.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:05 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:08:02 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 18:08:17 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 18:14:03 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm91.psi140.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:19:34 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@87.115.161.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:33:57 <frosch123> TrueBrain: is it intentional that wt3 allows to commit invalid strings? (the korean one in r16729) 18:34:29 <TrueBrain> frosch123: already taken care of; Rubidium's fault :) 18:34:39 <TrueBrain> (he said strgen worked in a way it doesn't work! :)) 18:35:06 <frosch123> ok :) 18:35:18 <TrueBrain> but tnx for noticing :) 18:35:42 <frosch123> i did not notice, strgen did :p 18:57:23 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:29 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:01:29 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@200-161-120-132.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:21 *** rortom [~rortom@p57B7F615.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 19:11:35 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@client-86-24-122-219.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:05 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:17:42 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-13-36-59.brhm.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:34 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 19:28:34 *** CIA-10 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 19:28:41 *** CIA-10 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 19:34:44 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:44 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34:56 *** thingwath [~thingwath@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 19:35:10 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:35:29 <Alberth> hello 19:35:46 <Nite_Owl> Hello Alberth 19:37:42 *** Muxy [~benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:45 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@user-5440aa43.wfd76a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:24 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 19:55:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r16731 /trunk/src/ai/api/ai_depotlist.cpp: -Fix [NoAI]: AIDepotList contained wrong tiles for hangars when st->xy != st->airport_tile. 20:00:44 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has joined #openttd 20:01:36 <_ln> are there other useful dutch phrases besides "Pardon, bent u'n Romulaan?" 20:01:41 <_ln> for a tourist 20:03:34 <TrueBrain> "Wil je neuken?" 20:03:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:17 <_ln> sounds dirty although i don't quite understand it 20:04:43 <TrueBrain> "Mag ik je de binnenkant van mijn kont laten zien?" 20:05:10 <Nite_Owl> "Pardon but are you a Romulan" ? 20:05:27 <_ln> Nite_Owl: correctomundo 20:05:33 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: I completely failed to see how it would be "useful" 20:05:38 <TrueBrain> so I gave him a few other "useful" sentences 20:05:41 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: ??? @ google's translation: "Can I give you the inside of my ass show?" 20:05:48 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: ghehe :) 20:06:02 <TrueBrain> can I show you the inside of my ass, would be more correct translation :) 20:06:12 <SmatZ> ;-) 20:06:26 * SmatZ won't post pics 20:06:29 <TrueBrain> the other was: want to fuck? 20:06:37 <_ln> TrueBrain: well let's imagine you are in a meeting with space aliens of several species (who happen to speak dutch), and.... 20:06:52 <TrueBrain> then the only thing I would want to ask is: want to fuck? 20:07:27 <SmatZ> always relevant 20:08:02 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-123-9.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 20:08:05 <TrueBrain> as useful as any other, yes 20:08:28 <Nite_Owl> depends on where their genitalia are 20:08:46 <TrueBrain> I am not that picky 20:09:57 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 20:10:09 <Nite_Owl> also differentiation of the sexes might be a bit vague 20:10:27 <TrueBrain> this conversation is somehow going the wrong way .. 20:11:20 <jonty-comp> story of #openttd 20:11:28 <Belugas> i am not a pickle 20:11:44 <jonty-comp> how do we know that? 20:12:34 <Nite_Owl> Also Romulans can be a bit aggressive. Not as aggressive as Klingons but you could still get hurt in places where it is better not to be hurt. 20:12:45 <SmatZ> http://www.nataliedee.com/042507/pickle-delivery.jpg Belugas posted me his photo 20:12:58 <jonty-comp> they're aggressive, but calculative! 20:13:00 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:47 <_ln> dank je voor het groen olifant 20:17:47 <Belugas> roooooaaaaaar.. 20:20:39 <Belugas> Helephant 20:21:04 <Nite_Owl> be careful it does not step on you 20:23:36 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/airports.png Rotated airports :) 20:23:40 <Yexo> never mind the graphics 20:24:04 <Belugas> GIMME THE PATCH!! 20:25:29 <planetmaker> :O @ Yexo 20:25:52 <Alberth> nice! 20:26:03 <SmatZ> nice 20:26:13 <Nite_Owl> ditto 20:26:43 <Nite_Owl> to all of the above 20:26:53 <Farden> rotated airports? 20:26:55 <Farden> fake! 20:27:04 <Farden> (or you give the patch^^) 20:27:20 <Yexo> I'll make my hg repro public after some more work 20:27:43 <planetmaker> Yexo, the dev with the endless supply of hg repos? 20:27:53 <Sacro> mmm, hg 20:27:54 <Yexo> he :) 20:28:04 <Yexo> I hope this one ends up in trunk someday 20:28:19 <planetmaker> If you continue this way, your patches alone will make a formidable patch pack ;) 20:28:38 <planetmaker> *published patches 20:29:25 <Belugas> nice indeed 20:29:39 * Belugas moved out of the AI and into core OpenTTD 20:29:42 <Belugas> shit... 20:29:50 <Belugas> Yexo moved out of the AI and into core OpenTTD 20:29:53 <Belugas> pfff... 20:29:59 <planetmaker> :) 20:30:19 <Belugas> need to go home soon or i'll just burst in screamss 20:30:33 <SmatZ> ;) 20:30:45 <Yexo> unfortunatly I don't have a lot of time in the coming weeks 20:30:49 * Yexo has got a summer job 20:31:20 <Belugas> congrats 20:31:26 <Belugas> and yes, i know the feeling 20:31:36 <Yexo> thanks 20:31:36 <Belugas> although mine is year-round 20:31:44 <Lakie> Hmm... time.... the one think which constantly runs out... 20:31:50 <Yexo> I'm glad mine isn't (yet) 20:31:59 <Belugas> money too... once with a wife... 20:32:38 <Alberth> Lakie: it is not time, it is priority 20:34:21 <Lakie> Well, you have set peroid of time, and lots of tasks to do in it. Usually the combined time of the tasks is larger than the time we have to do them... (Priority is just trying to do all the important ones in the alotted time). 20:34:45 <TrueBrain> they should have made 1 minute more than 60 seconds 20:34:48 <TrueBrain> would have solved all this 20:35:08 <Belugas> and EVERYONE ONTHE SAME TIME ZONE! 20:35:10 <Yexo> let's just put more hours in a day 20:35:32 <TrueBrain> Belugas: lol :) So when you are in Canada it is normal to work in the night? ;) 20:35:43 <Belugas> hem... 20:35:47 <Belugas> right... 20:35:49 <Belugas> pfff.... 20:35:59 <TrueBrain> wow ... don't blow tha thard 20:36:03 <TrueBrain> we have enough wind here as it is :) 20:36:05 * TrueBrain hugs Belugas 20:36:31 <Belugas> ;) 20:36:44 <Nite_Owl> working nights is fun 20:36:54 <Belugas> for you maybe 20:36:59 <TrueBrain> depends if it means you have to sleep in the day or not 20:37:01 <Belugas> like... for me, it's working underwater 20:37:13 <Belugas> Hooo Hooo 20:37:24 <TrueBrain> santa? 20:38:15 * TrueBrain wishes all those translators finished what they started ... too many unfinished languages :( 20:38:23 <Nite_Owl> 12 AM to 8 AM for over 16 years and I am still addicted to that schedule even though I do not work it anymore 20:38:53 <TrueBrain> AM/PM is the worst system ever invented ... who figured that it would be sane to go from 11 PM to 12 AM to 1 AM? 20:38:55 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: chain them to a PC and only set them free, if they're at 100% ;) 20:38:56 <TrueBrain> how does that make sense? 20:39:21 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: use 24h notation :P 20:39:29 <TrueBrain> ZULU times if needed :p 20:39:37 <TrueBrain> but AM/PM ... it sucks ass 20:39:53 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: yes, they do :) I won't contradict. 20:40:12 <Belugas> a ass is a big piece of meat to suck... you'll have to try something else... 20:40:14 <planetmaker> and I don't like it as it highlights me. 20:40:14 <Nite_Owl> okay 0:00 to 8:00 - happy now 20:40:19 <Belugas> -a +an 20:40:45 <TrueBrain> ass highlights you? 20:40:47 <TrueBrain> silly planetmaker 20:40:56 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: yeah, that makes me happy :) 20:41:01 <TrueBrain> as least I can read that ... ;) 20:41:29 <TrueBrain> and that is when you sleep? Else you have a very short day :s 20:41:52 <Nite_Owl> that is when I use to work 20:41:57 <TrueBrain> ah :) 20:42:01 <TrueBrain> so you rarely see daylight 20:42:05 <TrueBrain> so you are a minion? 20:42:19 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:42:20 *** Combuster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:23 <Nite_Owl> I went to sleep around 14:00 20:42:24 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 20:42:25 <TrueBrain> (I played a total of 20 hours Overlord 2 the last few days :p) 20:42:47 <SmatZ> bad bad TrueBrain 20:42:53 <Yexo> I hope for you few > 5 :p 20:43:10 <TrueBrain> Yexo: euh ... no? :'( 20:43:14 <Nite_Owl> and got up around 22:00 20:43:31 <TrueBrain> Nite_Owl: nasty schedule ... ;) 20:43:58 <Nite_Owl> I loved it - still do although I have modified it a bit 20:44:27 <TrueBrain> you can never go to a social activity in the afternoon :) 20:45:20 <Nite_Owl> I usually sleep around 06:00 now and get up around 14:00 20:45:33 <Aali> Overlord 2? 20:45:46 <Aali> is that the sequel to Overlord? 20:45:54 <TrueBrain> no 20:46:08 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i think i need some kind of USB hub and an external USB DVD writer, so i can place the computer into the room next door 20:46:09 <TrueBrain> (what kind of question is that? People can be so stupid! (Jeff Dunham style)) 20:46:23 <Eddi|zuHause> the most efficient way to quiten the computer ;) 20:46:25 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: if you go sit in the room nextdoor, you don't need to 20:46:42 * TrueBrain hugs Aali 20:46:45 <Aali> TrueBrain: sweet, see you in a few days 20:46:46 <TrueBrain> but it was a stupid question :) 20:47:04 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: well, the point is to still have access to the computer :p 20:47:07 <TrueBrain> Die Hard 2, not the sequal 20:47:25 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: overrated 20:47:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not in the mood to go cold turkey :p 20:48:03 <Yexo> my secondary monitor suddenly went black, and now it stinks like something burned in there :( 20:48:25 <petern> oh dear 20:48:26 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: that is sad to hear 20:48:30 <TrueBrain> Hint to all: don't cook on your screen 20:48:35 <Eddi|zuHause> monitors tend to do that occasionally 20:48:49 * TrueBrain sends Yexo a new screen 20:49:03 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: why do they make it warm enough to cook an egg then? 20:49:15 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: http://pics.nase-bohren.de/reality.jpg <- this solves lal your problems! 20:49:30 <Eddi|zuHause> old! :p 20:49:35 <TrueBrain> (with tnx to Belugas :)) 20:50:06 <TrueBrain> they should invent cold-screens 20:50:16 <TrueBrain> would be useful in this weather 20:50:18 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 20:50:29 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:41 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, i should not start watching a series that late into the season... 20:50:54 <TrueBrain> so download the older ones first ... 20:50:58 <Yexo> cooling laptop: the more work the cpu has to do the cooler they become <- that would be useful with this weather 20:51:07 <Belugas> :D 20:51:08 <Eddi|zuHause> you watch like 20 episodes in a row, and then need to wait half a year for the next episode 20:51:09 <TrueBrain> Yexo: so build one! 20:51:12 <TrueBrain> use qubits! :) 20:51:29 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: worse: I used to watch 4 or 5 episodes a week (all kinds of series) 20:51:32 <TrueBrain> now I have nothing to watch ... 20:51:40 <TrueBrain> so I went to movies ... but they tend to run out fast :( 20:52:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i have like 500GB of unwatched movies... 20:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i tend to like series more... 20:52:29 <TrueBrain> so the summerstop is for you to catch up on 500 GB of material 20:52:29 <Eddi|zuHause> but there are only like 3 series on right now... 20:52:34 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I really want a surround system :) 20:52:42 * TrueBrain hugs Eddi|zuHause 20:52:44 <TrueBrain> poor thing :) 20:52:55 * Sacro has 5.1 with DTS and DD 20:52:57 <Sacro> oh and THX 20:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i have 5.1 onboard, but never got around to install more speakers 20:55:25 <Eddi|zuHause> during the season i have usually 2 episodes per day 20:56:08 * petern has 2.0 with ... ... 20:56:23 <petern> coincidentally, i also have two ears 20:57:02 <petern> and THX is bollocks these days 20:57:13 <petern> any old shitter can get it 20:57:17 <petern> just have a big sub 20:57:43 <Rubidium> petern: but you also have a gut, so you need at least 2.1 20:58:23 <petern> i leave the bass response to my 2.0, thanks 20:58:38 <Belugas> brrrrrooooooooooommmmm 20:59:33 <Sacro> Belugas: excuse you 20:59:48 <Belugas> booooohooooo :( 21:00:28 <Belugas> I do not have to excuse me, it was the sound of peter's bass making my system rumbling 21:00:52 <Belugas> not some part of my anatomy expressing something 21:00:55 <Belugas> pervert 21:01:35 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: you know what would be interesting: if you could define another fall-back language than English for languages in OpenTTD :) 21:01:47 <planetmaker> or rather an additional, intermediate one. 21:02:03 <planetmaker> Like Portuguese for BrazilianPortugues or alike 21:03:41 <Rubidium> what's the point of that? 21:03:44 <Belugas> or french? mmh... why not french? there are two (alomst two) french speaking devs! 21:03:56 <Farden> french? 21:03:58 <Rubidium> besides making stuff more complex and more prone to errors 21:04:02 <Farden> someone has said the word french? 21:04:22 <Rubidium> it was you... twice! 21:04:33 <Farden> yeah, but I have a reason 21:04:43 <Farden> i'm the Official French Guy from openttdcoop 21:05:05 <Belugas> FRENCH 21:05:14 <Belugas> FRENCH french FRENCH 21:05:20 <_ln> Rubidium: well, a lot of things that support localization in the first place also support having a list of preferred fallback languages. 21:05:23 <Farden> hey, stop that' 21:05:25 <Rubidium> Farden: so? 21:05:25 <Farden> it's cheating! 21:05:33 <Farden> my secret highlight! 21:06:00 <Rubidium> Belugas is the offical French Canadian developer of OpenTTD 21:06:40 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Booth 21:06:55 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:08:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r16732 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#2991]: show Close instead of Cancel when there's nothing to canel in the content downloading window. 21:09:01 <Belugas> glx is the official French French developer of OpenTTD 21:10:07 <Farden> yeah, I know glx 21:10:13 <planetmaker> Rubidium: another Fallback-language would give the chance to display text which is more likely to be understood, should the primarily chosen language fail there. 21:10:28 <Belugas> you know him? like... on a daily basis? like... going to the pub? 21:10:44 <Belugas> ike... you can recognize him on the street? 21:11:18 <Farden> no^^ 21:11:24 <Farden> I mean I know who he is 21:11:35 <Farden> the guy who translated all ottd in French 21:11:39 <Yexo> planetmaker: just fix the primary language :) 21:12:07 <Farden> I know we French people are only 65 millions 21:12:07 <Belugas> i used to do it too, you know 21:12:10 <planetmaker> Yexo: don't tell that me :) I can only try to improve right now what exists :) 21:12:12 <Belugas> along time ago... 21:12:13 <Farden> but it's not a reason to know everyone^^ 21:12:45 * planetmaker points at today's wt3 commit 21:12:55 <Belugas> i translated on the first two versions of WT 21:13:25 <petern> being an english-only speaker, i've never seen it 21:13:54 <Rubidium> planetmaker: good luck with mix'n'matching cases 21:14:22 <planetmaker> Rubidium: that's a good point :) 21:14:47 <_ln> petern: are you seriously saying you can't speak any foreign language, even a little? 21:15:08 <planetmaker> Though, of course, then the whole string could be drawn from another language. But then it's not easy anymore ;) 21:15:14 <petern> oui 21:15:21 <petern> c'est vrai 21:15:54 <petern> i can speak american too :D 21:16:18 <_ln> what aboot canadian? 21:16:36 <Nite_Owl> y'all wanta soda 21:16:50 <Sacro> canadian eh? 21:17:17 <Belugas> canayen, ok la? 21:17:20 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> Like Portuguese for BrazilianPortugues or alike <- you forgot the obvious one... Ammler-german falling back to real german :p 21:17:38 <planetmaker> :D 21:17:43 <Sacro> heh 21:17:44 <Rubidium> planetmaker: OpenTTD doesn't take strings from another language; it just takes what's in the language file 21:17:47 <Sacro> if in doubt fall back to Ammler 21:18:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: then it's strgen that needs to be changed 21:18:23 <planetmaker> Rubidium: and for not-translated there's an English string there? 21:18:56 <Rubidium> planetmaker: yes 21:19:06 <planetmaker> uh-oh 21:19:31 <Eddi|zuHause> not "uh-oh", it makes the task easier ;) 21:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause> just feed 3 txt files to strgen 21:19:51 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: you mean make strgen aware of which strings are used in what manner so strgen can replace them with the strings from the base language ought one of them not be translated and the base language uses cases? 21:21:09 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i'm not entirely sure what you are saying :) 21:21:49 <Rubidium> e.g. portuguese uses cases and brazilian portuguese too, but different ones... how to mix'n'match? 21:22:41 <Rubidium> your German (by speech) 'friend' said that it should, if there isn't a brazilian portuguese translation get the whole string (including substrings) from portuguese 21:25:19 <Belugas> night all 21:25:20 <Belugas> boo 21:25:23 <Belugas> i'm gone 21:25:58 <Rubidium> night Belugas, happy weekend (I hope) 21:26:06 <Yexo> night Belugas 21:27:11 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: just strip the cases from those strings? 21:27:27 <Eddi|zuHause> let the translator figure it out... 21:28:43 <Nite_Owl> later Belugas 21:29:25 <Rubidium> and you'll probably end up chaining more than two languages 21:29:28 <Yexo> let the translator figure it out... <- let's give the translator more work, after all, he has time enough, since the translation is finished (oh, were did we start again?) 21:30:24 <Rubidium> ghehe... all the complaints... why did you use Swiss German for that string? 21:30:30 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:42 *** Benny is now known as t16t9t47 21:30:52 *** t16t9t47 is now known as Benny 21:31:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-114-235.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:39:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r16733 /trunk/src/town_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move rebuilding and sorting the town list out of TownDirectoryWindow::OnPaint. 21:40:04 *** octernion [~octernion@hermes.mae.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 21:41:29 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:50 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 21:47:05 *** Farden [~jk3farden@ram94-7-82-232-189-236.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 21:55:25 *** octernion [~octernion@hermes.mae.cornell.edu] has quit [Quit: woop woop] 22:04:33 *** Benny [~chatzilla@40.81-166-86.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]] 22:20:06 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.30.25] has joined #openttd 22:26:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r16734 /trunk/src/ (intro_gui.cpp town_gui.cpp): -Codechange: Prepare intro, town directory, and found town windows for more flexible widget contents. 22:29:25 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I am looking for a set which support that .. and two optical in .. which is the main problem it seems :( 22:30:38 <TrueBrain> planetmaker: I rather hang people for not translating fast enough :p 22:30:59 <Sacro> TrueBrain: hm? 22:31:06 <Sacro> two optical? 22:31:10 <Sacro> mine only has one 22:31:23 <TrueBrain> as I said: which is the main problem :p 22:31:34 <TrueBrain> I have an XBox360 and a small computer 22:31:36 <TrueBrain> both optical out 22:31:46 <TrueBrain> of course I can convert one to coax, but that is just silly 22:32:04 <TrueBrain> logitech 5400 has 2 optical in .. but they no longer sell it. The 5500 only has one. Go figure :( 22:32:29 <TrueBrain> (and the 5500 is VERY ugly :() 22:32:57 <Sacro> i have the 5500 D: 22:33:01 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Bitches.] 22:33:04 <TrueBrain> sorry: it is very ugly! 22:33:06 <Sacro> and you can get a TOSLINK switcher 22:33:12 <Sacro> hmm, i guess you are right 22:33:19 <TrueBrain> the 5400 was more pretty :) 22:33:20 <Sacro> I can only see the centre speaker and unit though 22:33:27 <Sacro> the rears are behind me 22:33:32 <TrueBrain> then it is okay :) What I read the quality is next to perfect 22:33:34 <Sacro> the fronts are on my window ledge behind some curtains 22:33:41 <Sacro> oh god yes, 22:33:54 <Sacro> my housemate in the room above bought the exact same ones 22:34:00 <Sacro> he has em hooked to a wii and an imac 22:34:04 <TrueBrain> and any switcher/splitter/whatever only makes things more complex again .. not a single source to switch between inputs 22:34:21 <Sacro> why doesn't your pc use 3.5mm jacks? 22:34:27 <blathijs> TrueBrain: It's hard to find a speaker set with just one digital in, let alone two :-) 22:34:28 <TrueBrain> I have a Dell Studio Hybrid 22:34:31 <Sacro> if you want 5.1 then that's the only way 22:34:33 <TrueBrain> very small computer 22:34:37 <Sacro> unless you have dts live or dd whatsit 22:34:45 <Sacro> dd live or dts whatsit even 22:34:52 <TrueBrain> blathijs: any surround system with DTS has digital in (either optical or coax) 22:35:13 <blathijs> TrueBrain: I got a set of Behringer monitor speakers, since I couldn't find decent and affordable stereo speakers with digital in 22:35:13 <Sacro> i have PC on 3*3.5 and coax 22:35:19 <Sacro> and XBOX 360 via optical 22:35:33 <TrueBrain> blathijs: ah, normal speakers, yes ;) 22:35:44 <TrueBrain> Sacro: why both? (coax and 3x?) 22:35:57 <Sacro> TrueBrain: 3x is for normal usage 22:35:59 <blathijs> I don't need a home cinema setup to listen music in my 6m^2 work room :-) 22:36:02 <Sacro> as I don't have an encoder 22:36:16 <Sacro> i switch to coax for films and dts encoded music 22:36:16 <TrueBrain> blathijs: I just want 5.1 ... on the xbox that is so much cooler :) 22:36:28 <blathijs> hehe 22:36:30 <TrueBrain> Sacro: ah, yes :) But you should be able to send non-encoded over the optical too, not? 22:36:43 <TrueBrain> (as the optical is just a carrier, not a protocol) 22:37:02 <Sacro> yes but it'll only be stereo 22:37:13 <TrueBrain> Sacro: oeh, you should be able to tell me this: the 5500, does it extend 2.0 sound to 5.1? (in any ... listenable way?) 22:37:22 <Sacro> Yep, it has Pro Logic 22:37:29 <Sacro> Music and Movie, it's not so bad 22:37:40 <TrueBrain> perfect :) 22:37:49 <TrueBrain> what I miss about the 5400/5500, is an ipod dock ;) 22:37:51 <Sacro> that or it can make rear left = front left and rear right = front right 22:37:58 <Sacro> errrm, I can hook mine to my ipod dock 22:38:07 <TrueBrain> yeah, but I don't have a dock (yet) :p 22:38:10 <Sacro> it has a 3.5mm line in on the right hand side 22:38:15 <Sacro> so i can hook that to my ipod 22:38:32 <TrueBrain> as I don't use 3x 3.5 I have 3x in :p 22:38:36 <TrueBrain> (which I strangly enough need :p) 22:38:47 <Sacro> hmmm 22:38:58 <Sacro> do you have dd live or dts connect on your pc? 22:39:08 <TrueBrain> no idea :p 22:40:01 <Sacro> hehe, i'll go with no then 22:40:13 <Sacro> nice box though 22:40:15 <Sacro> looks sexy 22:40:21 <TrueBrain> which box? 22:40:51 <TrueBrain> lol, I have a Intel HD Audio Controller ... I guess it has nothing :p 22:41:03 <TrueBrain> it doesn't even a mic in :( 22:41:19 <Sacro> just looking at the studio hybrid 22:41:28 <TrueBrain> ah :) Yeah, those hybrids are lovely :) 22:41:32 <TrueBrain> I sadly enough bought a T5750 22:41:34 <TrueBrain> which is a big mistake 22:41:36 <TrueBrain> (not VT-X) 22:41:44 <Sacro> you might have to join the 2 optical things 22:41:47 <Sacro> ouch :( 22:41:51 <Sacro> i love having amd-vt 22:42:05 <TrueBrain> I wish I had .. well .. I have a secondary machine here which now takes care of that load :) 22:42:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EFBC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:29 <TrueBrain> joins are nasty, as one of the two sources need to be disabled in order for it to work 22:42:33 <TrueBrain> (or they get a bit more expensive ;)) 22:43:30 <TrueBrain> oh well .. tomorrow I go shopping by all those nice stores ... see if they have something in my price class I like .. but I am afraid I end up with the 5500 anyway :p 22:44:09 <TrueBrain> I wish they still sold the DDTS-100 :( 22:44:39 <Sacro> hmmm 22:46:05 <Sacro> http://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/23_48_63/products_id/1013?osCsid=460137ab2eba181a1c0cddde96a80b46 22:47:31 <TrueBrain> yeah, but as I said: I am not going to buy some expensive set, to change something on an other thingy in my room when I change medium 22:47:46 <TrueBrain> if I do things, I tend to do them good, or not at all :) 22:48:18 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:48:21 <TrueBrain> but converting to COAX costs 20 euro or so ... so I guess that is the other alternative 22:48:33 <TrueBrain> that or a completely different set :) 22:48:58 <Sacro> Yeha 22:49:04 <Sacro> or get an auto switching box 22:49:07 <Sacro> but they are expensive 22:49:12 <TrueBrain> too expensive I guess 22:49:18 <Sacro> yeeeeeah 22:49:19 <TrueBrain> how is the auto-sense of the 5500? 22:49:26 <Sacro> what do you mean? 22:49:29 <Sacro> it doesn't have it 22:49:36 <TrueBrain> you have to do manual switching? 22:49:38 <TrueBrain> sucks :p 22:49:43 <Sacro> heh 22:49:47 <Sacro> it comes with a remote 22:49:51 <TrueBrain> I would expect it to detect signal over a source, and switch to it :p 22:50:19 <TrueBrain> I thought the 5400 had that .. but I read so many reviews today, that I might be mixing it up with an other :p 22:51:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0d37.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54:18 <TrueBrain> well, there is always this: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/spec.do?group=homeentertainment&type=homecinema&subtype=avreceiver&model_cd=AV-R720R/XEU&fullspec=F 22:59:49 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:00:16 *** Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-24-122-219.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:21 *** rortom [~rortom@p508EB7D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:07:33 <TrueBrain> I can get that for 130 euro ... feels wrong :p 23:08:00 <TrueBrain> oh well 23:08:01 <TrueBrain> good night! 23:08:47 <Sacro> hmmm 23:08:50 <rortom> hey 23:08:53 <rortom> TrueBrain 23:08:54 <Sacro> night TrueBrain 23:09:04 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 23:09:07 <rortom> didnt you want me to give that climbing hall name? 23:09:10 <rortom> :p 23:09:24 <Sacro> ooh climbing 23:10:04 <rortom> (meaning rock-climbing) 23:19:44 *** rortom [~rortom@p508EB7D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 23:33:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76D77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-123-9.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77558.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:37:36 <Belugas> [17:25] <Rubidium> night Belugas, happy weekend (I hope) <--- well.. given that i've canceled my weekend of diving in order to take ocare of any problems with the customer, given that i'm locked at home for same reason, i'd say it does not start on the right foot 23:38:10 * petern hugs Belugas 23:38:15 <Belugas> on the other hand (of foot), my boss gave me what he was proposing to sell me, to compensate for the loss. 23:38:30 <Belugas> thanks petern ;) 23:39:06 <Belugas> petern, let say we will both enjoy the effect of the said object ;) 23:39:15 <Belugas> whooooo whaaaaaa! 23:39:38 <Belugas> ok ok... i don't have it yet, should be by monday, but still :D 23:39:51 <Belugas> kiddo to bed now 23:39:56 <petern> oh, shame :/ 23:53:32 *** solo [daniel@190.71.192.91] has joined #openttd 23:53:45 <solo> hi! 23:53:52 <solo> :S