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00:00:08 <OwenS> I guess I'm just of the opinion that stuff people have paid money to the government for should be freely available - not available if you pay extra money 00:02:44 <R0b0t1> What do you mean gov't work? 00:03:01 <R0b0t1> I'm pretty sure it's free for the people, they just convince the gov't to fund something. 00:03:04 <OwenS> CSIRO is a government funded and owned research body 00:03:30 <OwenS> Which also is in the business of patent licensing (*cough* trollling *cough*) 00:03:39 <R0b0t1> hmm... 00:10:41 <Pygma> It's the citizens tax money that makes those things, I'd be of the opinion that all government produced stuff should be public domain 00:11:15 *** reldred2 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 00:13:40 *** reldred3 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 00:16:11 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:38 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-53-161.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:16:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.16.218] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3] 00:19:16 *** reldred2 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:07 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:30:26 *** Jerimiah40 [~jerimiah4@64.141.35.45] has joined #openttd 00:32:13 <Jerimiah40> Standard cloverleaf junction sucks: Discuss 00:32:14 <Jerimiah40> :P 00:32:43 <Eddi|zuHause> your command is my ignorance... 00:34:46 <R0b0t1> It's decent 00:35:04 <R0b0t1> But i'd go for a star instead 00:35:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.98.3] has joined #openttd 00:35:13 <R0b0t1> Not as "sharp" 00:42:29 <Eddi|zuHause> a cloverleaf causes frequent gridlocks when traffic increases 00:43:04 <Eddi|zuHause> especially when trains are longer than the "leaf" 00:43:22 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly path signals can help there 00:45:54 <OwenS> Cloverleafs must be made unacceptably huge with realistic acceleration. And even bigger if you have more than 1 line per direction :p 00:48:33 <OwenS> Cheeeky cat is trying to steal the milk from my cereal :p 00:49:44 <Eddi|zuHause> a ?esky cat? 00:50:38 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF829C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:59 <OwenS> flaah 00:51:01 <OwenS> No 00:51:04 <OwenS> A little black cat :p 00:51:53 <Eddi|zuHause> and black cats can't come from czechia? 00:52:06 <OwenS> Well she's a British Shorthair, so no :p 00:53:21 <Jerimiah40> Yeah, I ended up doing the star with tunnels 00:53:31 <Jerimiah40> so hopefully it'll jam a little less often :P 00:54:02 <Jerimiah40> I spent about 2 years guiding trains through it, so I decided I'd have to do some construction :P 01:02:12 <Zuu> What about doing point to point, guarantied free from blocking ;) 01:02:32 <Jerimiah40> yeah, well :P 01:02:48 <Zuu> Or hitting the pause button, should be quite safe too ;) 01:02:55 <Jerimiah40> I'm playing multiplayer though 01:03:05 <Jerimiah40> the other guy tends to frown on that :P 01:03:14 <Zuu> hehe :-) 01:03:55 <Zuu> Doing custom-junctionts often save you a bit space. At least they usually don't require a lot of uniform space. 01:04:09 <Zuu> junctions* 01:04:38 <Jerimiah40> yeah... I haven't played the game in a LONG time though, so I'm kinda re-learning... I was never very good with junctions to being with :P 01:05:22 <Zuu> Just start out small, trying to do split before merge whenever it is cheap and then expand as traffic grows. 01:06:15 <Jerimiah40> yeah... I think the problem now is that my two biggest stations are too close to the mainline 01:06:48 <Zuu> Sounds like an interesting problem to solve :-) 01:06:53 <Jerimiah40> lol, yeah 01:07:24 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DC8AF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Raubgut ist vom Umtausch ausgeschlossen!] 01:08:37 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 01:12:03 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host217-42-4-28.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:12:07 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host217-42-4-28.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16:13 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:19:23 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:35 *** Pygma [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: ????] 01:31:25 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d4bf:d9a5:fb68:8f23] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:39:35 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:55:40 *** LaSeandre [~LaSeandre@host86-140-253-237.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 01:58:19 *** ecke_ [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has joined #openttd 01:58:19 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:06:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.227] has joined #openttd 02:09:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.227] has quit [] 02:10:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.169.227] has joined #openttd 02:12:12 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:13:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.202.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:29:25 *** Zuu [~Zuu@S0106000f3d50466b.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:59 *** MizardX- [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 02:38:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:38:32 *** MyCatVerbs [~mycatverb@lurkingfox.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40:49 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:41:21 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.33] has joined #openttd 02:41:26 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 02:41:31 *** MizardX [MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:48 *** MyCatVer1s [~mycatverb@lurkingfox.co.uk] has joined #openttd 02:41:48 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:41:58 *** MizardX- is now known as MizardX 02:44:22 *** Priski [Prsk@cable-105-162.kymp.net] has joined #openttd 02:57:12 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-40-190-70.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:03:11 *** Bergee [~bergee@c-68-40-190-70.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:09:58 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:11:25 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-53-161.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:13:51 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:40:05 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:02 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 04:04:38 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-58-147.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 04:53:22 *** reldred3 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:54:30 *** Zuu [~Zuu@S0106000f3d50466b.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:20:56 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd8f9.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 05:36:00 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0C140.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 05:57:39 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 05:59:50 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:46 *** ^spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:49:04 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 06:49:20 <pavel1269> good morning 07:05:40 *** LordAzamath [~rightwing@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 07:11:21 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23:43 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@ti0034a380-1631.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 07:23:46 <Terkhen> hello 07:24:21 <LordAzamath> hello 07:36:56 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:42:13 *** Utvik [~autvik@bjo2-1x-dhcp133.studby.uio.no] has joined #openttd 07:45:04 *** Utvik [~autvik@bjo2-1x-dhcp133.studby.uio.no] has left #openttd [] 07:51:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-52-159.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@S0106000f3d50466b.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:56:51 <Yexo> good morning 07:57:00 <TrueBrain> morning Yexo 07:57:03 <TrueBrain> you are here early :p 07:57:12 <Yexo> hehe :) 07:57:24 <Yexo> I told you my summer job was ove :p 07:57:27 <LordAzamath> pfft early 07:57:31 <LordAzamath> it's 11 AM 07:57:41 <TrueBrain> clearly :) 07:57:45 <TrueBrain> so enjoying the good life now? :) 07:58:31 <Yexo> of course, two weeks holiday left :) 08:00:41 <TrueBrain> WHOHO! 08:01:06 <blathijs> hm? 08:01:21 <TrueBrain> Ammler: I did something I wasn't allowed to, either way, openttd.org MX is migrated to new mail filter .. you should now be able to deliver mail, even when you are flooding. If not: install SPF record :p (and give your DNS 3600 seconds to update :p) 08:01:32 <TrueBrain> oh no, a blathijs! 08:01:41 <TrueBrain> reminds me of what I was going to do today :p 08:08:38 <Yexo> TrueBrain: how much work would it be to generate 0.7 noai api docs next to trunk api docs? 08:12:38 <TrueBrain> I guess in the most optimal way you would have them stored per release 08:12:57 <TrueBrain> so that would mean it is one more thing on the todo list when releasing 08:13:35 <TrueBrain> maybe we should produce a .tar.gz out of it :p 08:15:25 <Yexo> I was thinking more of a webpage like noai.openttd.org/docs, but a bundle for releases is nice too :) 08:15:54 <TrueBrain> I will look it over .. please make a ticket in the ticket system for it ;) 08:15:57 <TrueBrain> (else I forget) 08:17:35 <Yexo> TrueBrain: "The subdomain you tried to access is not used." on secure.openttd.org/bugs 08:17:50 <Yexo> hmm, no I can access is again 08:18:48 <TrueBrain> after creating, it gives you that problem, yes 08:18:58 <TrueBrain> flyspray doesn't like non-absolute urls 08:23:37 *** reldred1 [~reldred@115.131.212.200] has joined #openttd 08:29:17 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:25 *** Yexo is now known as Guest37 08:29:25 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 08:36:15 *** Guest37 [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:39:32 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 08:40:25 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 08:46:28 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9d6d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:53:22 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEd8f9.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:59:43 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 09:02:22 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 09:09:39 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:55 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 09:13:33 *** ^spike^ is now known as ^Spike^ 09:56:41 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:37 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Not here] 09:59:37 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db07f39.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 10:00:11 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host217-42-4-28.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:00:13 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:05:52 *** Stefan__ [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has joined #openttd 10:06:14 <Stefan__> Hello 10:07:52 <Yexo> hello Stefan__ 10:08:16 <Stefan__> :o there are 2 other stefans already here.. let me change my name. 10:09:01 *** Stefan__ is now known as Kaas 10:09:18 <PeterT> Hi kaas 10:09:23 <Yexo> no other stefan in this channel 10:09:29 <Yexo> @seen Stefan 10:09:29 <DorpsGek> Yexo: I have not seen Stefan. 10:09:34 <Kaas> The 0.7.2 version really has a lot of new features 10:09:38 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:17 <Kaas> oh, well my name was stefan__, but in my settings i have Stefan as my preferred name, then stefan_, then stefan__. so i just assumed that :) 10:10:37 <Biolunar> there are 2 more stefans 10:10:50 <Biolunar> not in this chan but on this server 10:10:51 <Yexo> there are some stefans, but not in this channel 10:11:16 <Kaas> Ohw right.. :) i last used IRC about 4 years ago 10:11:45 <Kaas> so i need to re-learn, hehe 10:12:55 <PeterT> yes kaas 0.7.2 is amazing 10:13:14 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 10:13:26 <Kaas> i played the stable 0.6.3 a lot with a friend of mine, but stopped about 6 months ago 10:13:47 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 10:14:15 <TrueBrain> Kaas .. I like the name ... /me goes to lunch .. cheese .. hmm .. 10:14:47 <Kaas> it didnt have the PBS signals, which are currently a bit inclear for me 10:15:00 <Kaas> Lol TrueBrain, have a nice lunch. 10:16:29 <Yexo> main thing to remember about pbs signals is to only build them at places where a train can stop in front of them 10:17:37 <Kaas> Yeah, i assumed that already. To prevent jamming up the system, right? 10:17:48 <PeterT> its more efficient 10:18:00 * PeterT wonders what this world has come to. 10:18:16 <PeterT> They are selling teddy bears on TV for 10:18:54 <Kaas> In 0.6.3 i did not have a good way to make an efficient dual-one-way track. but with this it should be a piece of cake 10:19:24 <PeterT> that mentality gives you a nice load of jams 10:19:45 <Kaas> Hmm? explain :) 10:19:54 <Yexo> "efficient" and "dual-one-way track" don't fit together imo 10:20:15 <PeterT> lol 10:20:24 <PeterT> well, yexo doesnt play 10:20:34 <Yexo> PeterT: I do occasionally 10:20:43 <PeterT> good for you, openttdcoop? 10:21:00 <Yexo> sometimes 10:21:06 <PeterT> ok 10:21:14 <PeterT> you know all the rules of presignals 10:21:18 * PeterT imagines you would 10:21:21 <Yexo> of course 10:21:24 <PeterT> since you invented them 10:22:02 <Yexo> PeterT: if it says you anything: the openttdcoop guys thought I was good enough to join #openttdcoop.pro 10:22:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B822EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:35 <PeterT> yeah, i joined that without an invite 10:22:36 <Yexo> not playing much doesn't say you can't play good 10:22:46 <PeterT> and i was kbanned :) 10:22:55 <PeterT> until i receive an invite 10:24:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8071B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:24:30 <Kaas> So how long have you two played this game already? 10:24:38 <PeterT> me, 1 year 10:24:44 <PeterT> yexo joined @ 0.6.3 10:25:01 <Kaas> Ah, right 10:25:11 <Yexo> been playing since december 2007, developing since januari 2008 :p 10:25:13 <PeterT> for the NoAI system 10:25:22 <PeterT> Yexo AI / General active 0.6.3 10:25:42 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 10:25:45 <Yexo> PeterT: yes, but I've written some patches before I started to work mostly on noai 10:25:51 <PeterT> boy, if i could meet ludde, i would ask him to marry me 10:26:13 <TrueBrain> really, this PeterT guy is starting to freak me out 10:26:15 <PeterT> he made uTorrent, and OpenTTD 10:26:15 <Kaas> Never palyed with an AI yet. only the original one, but they suck :P 10:26:36 <Yexo> in 0.7 you either play with a new ai or without any 10:26:40 <petern> scummvm too 10:26:41 <Yexo> the original one is gone :) 10:26:45 <Kaas> Good :D 10:26:53 <PeterT> oh yes petern, scummvm 10:26:58 <Yexo> Kaas: not everyone agrees at that point 10:27:10 <Kaas> ive seen a lot of AIs at the downloadable content 10:27:17 <PeterT> choo choo is a good one 10:27:24 <PeterT> my favorite is admeral al 10:27:25 <Noldo> I really don't understand the love for the old ai? 10:27:37 <PeterT> i dont understand the difference 10:27:37 <Yexo> Noldo: me neither 10:27:39 <Kaas> yeah, i thought tha admiral AI was a good one 10:28:10 <PeterT> its a good mix of fun 10:28:14 <Kaas> Question: what NewGRF do you use? 10:28:27 <Kaas> i only use the generic tram set from 0.6.3 10:28:29 <Noldo> old ai + 64*64 map = living ground 10:28:30 <PeterT> TrueBrain: what exactly is "TGP" (new landscapes) 10:29:29 <Noldo> maybe it's just that the ais are too good 10:29:42 <Yexo> PeterT: TerraGenesis, the landscape generator you can chose in the world generation window 10:29:53 <PeterT> oh 10:30:03 <PeterT> terragenisis is amazing 10:30:13 <PeterT> i only realized when i choose "original" 10:30:55 <planetmaker> Kaas, we use those newgrf which take our fancy. 10:31:01 <planetmaker> Browse bananas and use those you like 10:32:01 <PeterT> kaas, and check out openttdcoop's grf pack 10:32:29 <PeterT> http://openttdcoop.ammmler.ch/wiki/GRF 10:32:30 <Kaas> can the newGRF change the gameplay in any way(new transport units with it own properties for instance)? 10:32:42 <PeterT> yes, but it might crash 10:33:01 <PeterT> http://openttdcoop.ammler.ch/wiki/GRF 10:33:06 <PeterT> thats the correct link 10:33:10 <Kaas> :) 10:33:31 <planetmaker> Kaas, yes, they can. And they don't crash 10:33:33 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DD781.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:33:44 <planetmaker> that's actually what newgrf are about. 10:33:48 <planetmaker> they're not only graphics 10:34:04 <planetmaker> The only thing problematic is: don't change your choice of newgrf mid-game 10:34:15 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8071B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:17 <planetmaker> once you started with some, stick with those for that game 10:34:26 <PeterT> its free to start a new game 10:34:59 <Kaas> Wow, does openttdcoop use all of these :|? 10:35:15 <PeterT> not all at once 10:35:49 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@host86-128-48-192.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 10:36:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B807E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:36:32 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:36:47 <planetmaker> Kaas, that's a repository. 10:36:55 <planetmaker> It's a collection we can choose from 10:37:14 <planetmaker> using all at once is bound to fail. And it's completely insane to do. 10:37:18 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-98-249-11-38.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:38:29 <Kaas> Okay, so, anyone up for a game? 10:38:50 <PeterT> go to #openttdcoop 10:38:53 <PeterT> join the game 10:39:26 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@host217-42-4-28.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:29 <planetmaker> Kaas, if you want to check out reasonably sane combinations, you might want to look at our savegame archive: http://www.openttdcoop.ammler.ch/wiki/PublicServer:Archive 10:39:45 <planetmaker> you can save that collection of newgrf as a preset then and use it in your own game 10:41:13 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42:32 <Kaas> I think ill just stick with the old graphics. As im only interested in the gameplay, not the eye candy 10:43:02 <Terkhen> NewGRF are much more than eye candy :P 10:43:04 <LordAzamath> you see, the grfs don't only change graphics 10:43:09 <LordAzamath> but they change gameplay as well 10:43:30 <Kaas> donŽt they make the game unbalanced then? 10:43:56 <LordAzamath> do you insist on clean savegame being balanced? 10:46:00 <Kaas> Well, i suppose i could try some. see if i like it 10:48:14 <LordAzamath> wth, windows mail just randomly started up 10:49:08 <LordAzamath> oh 10:49:15 <LordAzamath> I think I clicked on a mailto link ;D 10:49:53 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 10:52:16 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:53:44 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 11:13:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: MB had some question regarding AI station building and CB18 (http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/showthread.php?tid=4194 [german]) 11:13:29 <Yexo> thanks Eddi|zuHause, I'll try to read it 11:13:46 <TrueBrain> with the accent on 'try' ;) 11:14:07 <Yexo> hehe :p 11:14:56 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: the answers you gave are correct 11:15:07 <Yexo> cb18 will not be implemented for trains 11:15:22 <Yexo> as for newgrf stations: AdmiralAI already builds them, I have no idea about others AIs 11:16:03 <Yexo> for the AI to implement it they should call AIRail::BuildNewGRFRailStation instead of AIRail::BuildRailStation (just 5 extra parameters) 11:17:58 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: http://rbijker.net/openttd/misc/newgrf_ai_train_purchase.txt <- that links works, the link in the log you post no longer works 11:18:15 <Yexo> but it has several flaws, so it's not really important anymore 11:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it's in the third quote 11:18:31 <Yexo> ah, ok :p 11:18:53 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:07 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.246.100] has joined #openttd 11:27:38 <Belugas> hello 11:28:00 <TrueBrain> Belugas!!!!!!!11111111 11:28:10 * Belugas is waking up at niagara falls today 11:28:32 * Belugas 's wife is in shower, kiddo is in front of the tv 11:28:54 <Belugas> we're heading to marineland in an hour or so 11:29:00 <Belugas> YEAH FOR VACATIONS!!!!! 11:29:04 <TrueBrain> ;) 11:30:10 <PeterT> cool! 11:30:18 <Belugas> hey TrueBrain :) hope it's as sweet as in here 11:30:26 <PeterT> wait, is it niagara falls in canada or in america? 11:30:40 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:30:41 <Belugas> canada, what yo think... 11:30:50 <Belugas> we've got the biggedt falss!!!! 11:30:53 <TrueBrain> Belugas: it is PeterT you talk to .. what do you think :p 11:30:53 <Belugas> oup... 11:30:58 <Belugas> biggest falls 11:31:12 <PeterT> :) 11:31:27 <PeterT> TrueBrain >:( 11:31:40 <Belugas> and it's not america (that is a continent), it's the USA! 11:31:43 <Belugas> prrrrrt 11:32:00 <Belugas> time for my shower 11:32:06 <Belugas> havea nice day all 11:32:11 <TrueBrain> you too!!!! 11:33:24 <PeterT> bye belugas 11:35:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you shower under the niagara falls? :p 11:41:47 <OwenS> Eddi|zuHause: They'd cetrainly classify as a power shower 11:43:01 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:30 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 11:52:10 *** Elton06623 [~Delphi@189.82.186.236] has joined #openttd 11:53:44 *** Elton06623 [~Delphi@189.82.186.236] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8de4:4661:4997:3341] has joined #openttd 11:54:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:55:47 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:00:33 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:07:16 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 12:07:21 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:07:59 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:14:36 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:08 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@ip-105.imafexbb.sk] has joined #openttd 12:22:20 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 12:41:39 <petern> 9/win 28 12:41:51 <petern> :s 13:06:01 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:11 *** Pygma [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has joined #openttd 13:14:54 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 13:15:45 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9d6d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 13:17:53 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:20 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has joined #openttd 13:56:09 *** OwenSX48BD [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:56:23 *** OwenS is now known as Guest54 13:56:23 *** OwenSX48BD is now known as OwenS 13:59:36 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 14:00:01 *** Guest54 [~oshepherd@host86-128-48-192.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:13 <OwenS> <3 Patent law 14:05:19 <OwenS> OOXML is patent encumbered, ODF is not 14:06:07 <petern> every patent's been checked? 14:06:47 <OwenS> Well MS have been in court since Mar 2007 (Which means they failed to disclose this as required by the ISO process) over a patent on OOXML's "CustomXML" feature 14:07:07 <OwenS> I don't doubt some patent somewhere is infringed by ODF. The legality of that patent, however... 14:07:09 <petern> no patents in OOXML could apply to ODF? 14:07:20 <petern> ODF sucks anyway 14:07:59 <OwenS> The patent the litigation is over doesn't cover ODF. Even the litigators have said that. 14:08:35 <petern> could be plenty of other patents 14:08:55 <OwenS> Yes, but probably of dubious legal standing 14:09:04 <petern> possible patent infringements is what prevented ogg theora being accepted 14:09:11 <petern> why of dubious legal standing? 14:10:12 <OwenS> Because ODF is based on the many year old StarOffice formats; and because office formats and SGML/XML grammars are both old, established niches, meaning it is very hard to patent something non obious and without prior art 14:10:23 *** welshdragon [~welshdrag@80.247.163.137] has left #openttd [] 14:10:35 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:11:02 <OwenS> And "possible patent infringements" is mostly apple going "we can't be bothered to implement this" 14:11:21 <OwenS> And MS, since both have competing formats anyway 14:15:18 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-58-147.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:16:21 <OwenS> Not that it matters much since Theora is a crap video codec 14:22:15 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbl] 14:22:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:25:01 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.246.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:25:52 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.229.4] has joined #openttd 14:32:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:39 *** _ln [~lanurmi@dyn-xdsl-83-150-113-243.nebulazone.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:34:36 *** speed [~speed@speed.controlplatform.com] has joined #openttd 14:34:38 <speed> choo choo :p 14:35:02 <TrueBrain> you already missed that train 14:38:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:39:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:30 <Eddi|zuHause> soo... who is stealing my connection? 14:39:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i must tell him, it's not really worth stealing... 14:39:53 * TrueBrain gives Eddi|zuHause his connection back 14:39:58 <TrueBrain> the joke is over, I know 14:40:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i forgive you ;) 14:41:07 <TrueBrain> yippie :) 14:42:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:47 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9d6d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 14:46:54 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:02 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 14:47:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:52:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:54:35 <Kaas> !dl 14:55:00 <Aali> try !password instead 14:57:01 <Yexo> glx: ^^ another command to add to your script 14:57:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by DorpsGek 14:58:00 *** mode/#openttd [-o Yexo] by DorpsGek 14:58:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:24 <TrueBrain> "tis ook nooit goed :p" 14:58:28 <glx> Yexo: same target? 14:58:34 <Yexo> glx: yes 14:59:19 <Yexo> TrueBrain: too much work to go and kick manually every time 14:59:57 <glx> Yexo: ask the bot in private :) 15:00:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:47 <Yexo> glx: hmm? I do know how to kick via dorpsgek 15:01:16 <TrueBrain> Yexo: /msg DorpsGek kick #openttd <user> <reason> 15:01:22 <TrueBrain> sounds simple enough, not ;) 15:01:38 <glx> and I have an alias for that :) 15:01:42 <TrueBrain> me too :) 15:01:55 <Yexo> I thought you had a script that did that automatically on !password 15:02:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02:03 <TrueBrain> in fact .. every normal command with a 'd' before it, pipes it through DorpsGek :p 15:02:49 <glx> indeed I have a script that reacts on many !commands 15:05:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:06:25 <LordAzamath> hmm 15:06:27 <LordAzamath> !command 15:06:30 <LordAzamath> yay 15:06:32 <LordAzamath> :D 15:07:00 *** LordAzamath was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [bad bad bad] 15:07:00 *** LordAzamath [~rightwing@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:07:09 <planetmaker> :-D 15:07:25 <LordAzamath> oh noes 15:09:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:00 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 15:16:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:17:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:20:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17210 /trunk/ (readme.txt src/misc_gui.cpp): -Update: credits to reflect the (current) truth a bit better 15:25:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:26:50 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 15:28:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:22 *** LordAzamath [~rightwing@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 15:32:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:32:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:37:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:37:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:38:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:56:07 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0e1b.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 15:57:25 <OwenS> "http://172.168.0.1/" Hmm may have mixed netblocks there :p 15:57:28 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:32 <glx> typo :) 16:00:56 *** Kaas [~Stefan@88.159.121.35] has joined #openttd 16:01:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:53 <OwenS> Nah, wanted 172.16 not 192.168 :p 16:02:43 <glx> still :) 16:03:38 <OwenS> Now if it were 192.168.100.1... 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17:49:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17212 /trunk/ (16 files in 5 dirs): -Change: move minilzo to its 'own' 3rdparty directory as it belongs there 17:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17213 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 17:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 13 changes by Bart 17:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: english_US - 5 changes by agenthh 17:50:33 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: latvian - 64 changes by dzhins 17:50:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: romanian - 2 changes by kkmic 17:50:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: thai - 85 changes by idkidnew 17:54:01 <frosch123> likely, but does that meet your gpl? or are you better using some gimp functionality? 17:55:02 <planetmaker> they could as well have been drawn by hand... 17:55:16 <planetmaker> I consider it a tool, not the product itself. 17:55:24 <planetmaker> After all we may use photoshop, too 17:55:42 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:48 <planetmaker> and it was no fun to copy around the different slopes :-) ... so I'm just curious if it would be easier, should the need arise another time :-) 17:57:41 <frosch123> well, if you put the sprites in the same position with the same dimensions, it should be no problem :) 17:58:12 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:33 <frosch123> though i am searching for a scripted image processor for years. gimp has some, but i never understood it :) 17:58:36 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:58:44 <planetmaker> what do you mean with "same position and same dimension"? You mean in the pcx? Well... that's another issue then... but might be easier that what I did. Dunno 100% though 17:59:15 <planetmaker> I haven't looked at gimp scripts so far either. Quite powerful, though, I guess. 17:59:27 <frosch123> yes, the source and destination sprites in the same position in the pcx / bmp / png / whatever 18:00:09 <planetmaker> If I'd write it, I'd write it in RSI-IDL. Not difficult there. But... no one except me will be able to run that programme then :-P 18:01:40 <planetmaker> hm... though there are free implementations of IDL... 18:02:24 <planetmaker> hm... and the VM is free of charge, too 18:03:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:11:00 <TrueBrain> hmm .. IDL .. 18:11:04 <TrueBrain> you got to love that language 18:11:27 <planetmaker> it's quite a nice one. For the purposes it's made for 18:11:32 <TrueBrain> and I can run your program, no worries :) 18:11:36 <TrueBrain> astronomy!!!! :p 18:11:37 <planetmaker> one of those is image processing 18:11:42 <planetmaker> :-) 18:11:52 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9d6d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 18:11:57 <TrueBrain> feed it a 2Mx2M image, and you can still do calculations on it :) 18:12:07 <planetmaker> jo :-) 18:12:18 <TrueBrain> sadly enough, we always have to fight for a license ... 18:12:23 <TrueBrain> people leaving their IDL open and shit 18:12:24 <planetmaker> Though I've just found another software which is... felt faster 18:12:37 <planetmaker> hehe. license wars :-) 18:12:54 <TrueBrain> yeah ... their computer always experiences power-loss .. dunno why ... 18:13:02 <planetmaker> Luckily we have enough. I'm loged in 24/7 into IDL license server :-P 18:13:22 <TrueBrain> with normal personal logged in, there are like 12 licenses free (1 computer consuming 3 licenses) 18:13:34 <TrueBrain> so students should run their program, and log out! 18:13:45 <planetmaker> :-) 18:16:10 <petern> ls -l 18:16:12 <petern> er 18:16:30 <planetmaker> haha :-) 18:16:38 <TrueBrain> HACKER! 18:17:24 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:36 *** octo [octo@if-loop.org] has joined #openttd 18:27:29 *** ddfreyne [~ddfreyne@stoneship.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:27:44 *** ddfreyne [~ddfreyne@stoneship.org] has joined #openttd 18:28:32 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:08 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:52:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17214 /trunk/ (22 files in 4 dirs): 18:52:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add [NoAI]: GetAPIVersion() as optional function in info.nut. Return "0.7" to get an api compatible (as much as possible) with the 0.7 api or "0.8" to get the latest api. 18:52:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change [NoAI]: move all deprecated functions to a separate squirrel script that is only loaded if an AI requests an old API version. 18:53:33 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-86-31-52-159.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:34 * frosch123 would like to know a way how to do that with newgrfs :) 18:53:49 <petern> grf version 18:53:56 <TrueBrain> commite: -Remove: nfo support; -Add: GRF Script support 18:53:58 <TrueBrain> sounds simple :p 18:54:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host53-58-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:54:46 <OwenS> I ought to get my codegen overhaul finished and create my own backup interpreter... 18:54:51 <Wolf01> hello :D 18:55:18 <Chris_Booth> hello 18:55:35 <frosch123> why does you appearance raise the idea to open xkcd? 18:56:13 <Chris_Booth> mine? 18:57:03 <frosch123> no, the guy of whom you have to type 5 of 6 letters to make tab completion work :s 18:57:41 <petern> ? 18:57:55 <Wolf01> me :P 18:58:09 <petern> "w<tab>" is enouhg 18:58:12 <petern> Wolf01, see 18:58:32 * petern ponders investigating gtkmm 18:58:38 <Wolf01> yes, w<tab><tab><tab><tab><tab> 18:59:42 <Wolf01> however, how the life is going? 19:00:44 *** Westie [~westie@westie-cat.co.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:00:54 *** Westie [~westie@westie-cat.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:06:49 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:04 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest70 19:09:10 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@client-82-12-225-105.brnt.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host53-58-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:13 *** Guest70 [~Chris_Boo@client-86-31-52-159.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:23 <OwenS> petern: I suggest Qt :p 19:22:31 <petern> no chance 19:22:36 <OwenS> :-( Why? 19:25:11 <OwenS> I find the Qt API brilliant to work with 19:25:17 <petern> i don't want to deal with the hell that is moc 19:25:31 <petern> and qt's pseudo c++ 19:25:44 <OwenS> Wha? For me Moc is just a single line in my CMakeLists.txt 19:26:11 <petern> signals: 19:26:12 <petern> public slots: 19:26:14 <petern> no 19:26:18 <petern> that shit can fuck off 19:26:27 <OwenS> OK, Q_SIGNALS:? public Q_SLOTS:? 19:26:51 <OwenS> Much better than SigC++'s template hackery and undefined behaviour issues... 19:28:37 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@88.193.124.243] has joined #openttd 19:28:56 <petern> aka standard c++ features 19:29:51 <OwenS> standards compliance but fugly code and the need to implement an accessor for each signal vs running Moc. Aah, I know which I choose! 19:30:19 <OwenS> And Qt is standard compliant. It just uses a few macros 19:32:09 <speed> guys i have question i downloaded all of those ECS GRFs for new industries, but how can i transport that stuff? I can't find wagons for transporting most of new things? 19:33:29 <OwenS> speed: You need an ECS compatible train set 19:33:49 <speed> Ohh 19:33:55 <speed> I thought that's loaded automaticly :P 19:34:06 <OwenS> No, ECS doesn't define any train parts 19:34:24 <OwenS> Only ECS compatible train set I can say off the top of my head is UKRS but many support it 19:34:27 <oskari89> There were an old wagons, new cargos grf somewhere.. 19:35:00 <oskari89> I've seen it, maybe on BaNaNaS. 19:35:15 <oskari89> It featured some of ECS cargos. 19:35:42 <speed> hm so which one eGRVTS ? 19:36:11 <planetmaker> :-D 19:36:16 <planetmaker> that's no train newgrf 19:38:18 <speed> which one then? ;) 19:39:03 <planetmaker> any train set on bananas. 19:39:14 <planetmaker> or rather every 19:40:41 <oskari89> Well, Finnish trainset (on construction) will feature extensive ECS support ;) 19:40:49 <oskari89> *under construction 19:41:03 <oskari89> With realistic wagons and such ;) 19:41:42 <planetmaker> maybe I should rephrase: every finished (not finish :-P) train set on bananas has ECS support 19:43:37 <speed> yeh i am looking into it 19:43:42 <speed> but dunno which one to download 19:43:45 <speed> any recomendations? 19:44:00 <Ammler> [21:39] <planetmaker> or rather every <-- jpset now, too? 19:46:00 <planetmaker> I haven't checked. I assume they do? 19:46:33 <planetmaker> speed, that's the same question as "I don't know what to eat, apples or pears. Any recommendations?" 19:47:02 <speed> apples :P 19:48:59 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:49:45 <speed> but really i don't know what to download 19:49:58 <Yexo> just play a few test game 19:50:15 <speed> besides old wagoons new cargos 19:50:19 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:23 <speed> i'd kinda like new wagoons to be honest 19:52:51 <Eddi|zuHause> hmm... the Kaffeine 1.0 UI is awful compared to Kaffeine 0.8 19:53:15 <frosch123> hmm, who made up "tropic wood" 19:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't even use the number keys to switch channels... 19:53:23 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9CC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:53:43 <planetmaker> frosch123, afaik it's a very old cargoID 19:54:14 <frosch123> maybe from newcargos :p i.e. it is neither default nor ecs (latter according to wiki) 19:55:02 <speed> ok that 2cc has it 19:59:32 <keoz> so, cargodist or cargodest ? when ? in the official tree or not ? 20:00:11 * keoz is quite excited with the idea playing with that 20:00:19 <frosch123> play ttdpatch 20:00:27 <keoz> i play openttd 20:00:47 <keoz> i'm on linux 20:02:32 <frosch123> why are default train engines not refitable to oil and rubber? 20:03:48 <valhallasw> because they are liquid, probably? 20:04:01 <frosch123> but you can transport water 20:04:57 <keoz> eh. You put it in bottles ! 20:07:25 <Yexo> keoz: which one you like more / as soon as it's done / not yet 20:07:59 <keoz> Yexo : i still didnt try any. 20:08:31 <keoz> but I really like the idea, so I will probably integrate it to play my next map 20:08:39 <keoz> (i play on a map for weeks) 20:10:10 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:06 <Yexo> in that case I'd say try cargodist, as cargodest hasn't been updated for a long time 20:11:28 <keoz> the current development is on cargodist, isn't it ? 20:11:45 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-209-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:11:50 <Yexo> both are created by different people 20:12:18 <Yexo> it are also different projects, they solve the problem in a complete different way 20:12:39 <Ammler> [21:53] <Eddi|zuHause> hmm... the Kaffeine 1.0 UI is awful compared to Kaffeine 0.8 <-- mostly just a config change 20:13:03 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: i don't find such an option in the config 20:14:02 <Ammler> I don't use it, but it i the general experience with my switch from KDE 3.6->4.3 20:14:07 <Ammler> 3.5* 20:14:49 <Eddi|zuHause> some things are not just options... 20:15:11 <Eddi|zuHause> especially since the kaffeine page said a lot of the code was rewritten, and not all features implemented yet 20:15:25 <Ammler> like Konversation 20:15:33 <Eddi|zuHause> and THAT is my general experience with KDE 4 20:15:49 <Ammler> well, then you use something <4.3 20:16:03 <Ammler> which you seriously shouldn't 20:16:16 <Eddi|zuHause> kaffeine is not bound to kde release schedule 20:16:29 <Eddi|zuHause> neither is konversation, ktorrent, amarok 20:16:53 <Eddi|zuHause> and all have or had some misfeatures... 20:17:33 <Ammler> don't use ktorrent, I prefer ttdpatch rtorrent ;-) 20:18:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and yes, my experiences might be tainted by my pre-4.3 attempts 20:18:21 <Eddi|zuHause> and 4.3 is not perfect either... 20:18:37 <Eddi|zuHause> there are still some bugs and weird behaviours 20:19:03 <Ammler> yes, but the general looking was worth to switch. 20:19:32 <Ammler> (I switched with 4.2) 20:20:24 <Ammler> and used some playground apps, but with 4.3 now, I don't need those anymore. 20:25:46 <petern> hmm, weird 20:26:49 <petern> apparently i registered on sourceforge as peter1138 in 2002 20:26:54 <petern> well before openttd 20:28:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0e1b.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:22 <petern> i don't remember using that nick outside of ottd 20:29:36 <OwenS> 3.6? I though 3.5 was the last version? 20:29:49 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:35 <Ammler> OwenS: next line :P 20:32:00 <OwenS> lol 20:32:12 <OwenS> Note to self: Check Konversation's scrollbar position 20:32:28 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:41 <Ammler> adie 20:32:42 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust196.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:37:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r17215 /trunk/src/saveload/afterload.cpp: -Cleanup: remove unused return value 20:37:31 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@ti0034a380-1631.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net] 20:39:06 <petern> hmm, maybe i should just use native gtk ;p 20:42:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:43:02 <Wolf01> gah current cut-off to half town :| 20:43:26 <_ln> hello Wolf01 20:43:33 <Wolf01> hello ln 20:47:51 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 20:58:34 *** Elton07815 [~Delphi@189.82.186.236] has joined #openttd 21:01:41 *** Skasi [~Skasi@85-127-105-210.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 21:03:03 <Skasi> Hello. I am having a problem that my OTTD does not play music. A friend of my copied the files from me and once he starts the game it does play music. Could anyone help me with that? :) 21:05:16 <keoz> how do you install it ? 21:05:31 <keoz> I would check for a timidity dep problem 21:05:56 <Skasi> oh wait.. that can't be true 21:06:00 <Yexo> Skasi: what os do you use? what openttd version? Maybe you set the music level to 0? 21:06:15 <Skasi> seems so.. X] 21:06:51 <Skasi> okay so now everyone knows it.. I'm stupid! 21:07:21 <Skasi> sorry for the inconvence 21:08:18 <Skasi> inconvenience* 21:21:17 <Eddi|zuHause> the problem is not if anyone thinks you are stupid... 21:21:35 <Eddi|zuHause> you only get a problem if people think you are more stupid than everybody else 21:21:59 <MyCatVer1s> Skasi: ehhhhh. Don't worry about it. Just be glad that it was an easy problem. :) 21:22:18 <Eddi|zuHause> and my amarok 2 is more stupid than 1.4 21:22:30 <R0b0t1> How do I "transfer" materials/supplies? 21:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause> it seems to forget ratings i give... 21:22:56 <Yexo> R0b0t1: use a tranfer order? 21:23:04 <R0b0t1> I don't see one. 21:23:16 <Yexo> in the dropdown under the load/unload options 21:24:02 <R0b0t1> Nope... 21:24:08 <R0b0t1> All I have is "unload and leave empty" 21:24:12 <R0b0t1> And that doesn't transfer. 21:24:55 <Yexo> http://wiki.openttd.org/images/c/c7/Orders_goto_unload.png <- there is "Transfer" 21:27:36 <R0b0t1> Ah 21:27:37 <R0b0t1> Ok 21:28:04 <R0b0t1> Heh wait 21:28:06 <R0b0t1> Ah well 21:46:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FAFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:58 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 21:50:57 <Belugas> Every One LOOOOOOOOVES 21:51:04 <Belugas> MArineLand! 21:51:09 <Belugas> now.. time to eat! 21:51:16 <TrueBrain> enjoy :) 21:51:22 <Belugas> thanks;)\ 21:51:32 <Belugas> i'll keep some left ovewrs for yhou... 21:51:36 * Belugas is gone 21:53:49 <TrueBrain> oeh 21:53:50 <TrueBrain> me like 21:53:53 <TrueBrain> too bad you are gone :( 21:55:55 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:07 *** Exl [~myself@cp1224652-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 22:00:29 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9d6d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 22:10:59 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:23 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:11:55 * MyCatVer1s lynches Nite_Owl for breaking someone or other out of prison. 22:12:20 <welshdragon> poor Nite_Owl 22:12:37 <Nite_Owl> You have got the wrong Nite Owl 22:12:56 * welshdragon farts fire in the direction of MyCatVer1s, in punishment for the Lynching 22:13:43 <Nite_Owl> I have no affiliation with any comic book character with a similar name 22:13:54 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:15:10 <Nite_Owl> In fact I was using this nickname long before The Watchmen was ever written - even before there was an internet. 22:15:19 <MyCatVer1s> Nite_Owl: even if you had, I'd still have the wrong Nite_Owl. 22:15:31 <MyCatVer1s> Because I'd actually be mad at Nite_Owl2. ^_^ 22:17:59 <Nite_Owl> plus the _ in the nick is for IRC purposes only - it is actually pronounced Nite Owl 22:19:24 *** MyCatVer1s is now known as MyCatVerbs 22:19:40 <Nite_Owl> or, if you know your Monty Python, it could be pronounced 'Throat Warbler Mangrove' 22:20:19 <MyCatVerbs> But a mangrove is a tree. :( 22:21:06 <Nite_Owl> Then you do NOT know your Monty Python 22:26:40 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17216 /trunk/ (13 files in 5 dirs): -Update: MiniLZO from 1.08 to 2.03. 22:27:35 *** speed [~speed@speed.controlplatform.com] has quit [] 22:28:24 <pavel1269> gn folks 22:28:34 *** pavel1269 [~quassel@r2ao16.net.upc.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:41 *** reldred1 [~reldred@115.131.212.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:21 *** Pygma [~quassel@88.151.27.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:00 *** Skasi [~Skasi@85-127-105-210.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has left #openttd [Leaving.] 22:45:05 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-159-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:51:08 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbiab] 22:52:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17217 /trunk/src/3rdparty/minilzo/ (lzodefs.h minilzo.c): -Fix (r17216): silence some warnings for the more exotic GCC-alikes 22:55:42 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@dhcp-077-251-090-192.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Not here] 22:57:08 <Eddi|zuHause> grr... i hate interactive SQL statements for requiring a ; 22:59:38 <OwenS> Drives me mad also 22:59:47 <OwenS> Sony announced Slim PS3 23:01:10 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:02 *** reldred1 [~Richard_E@wirele5.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:11 <Xaroth> ugh, i'm such a donkey when it comes to learning new stuff 23:05:25 <FauxFaux> Try dead-tree books. 23:05:39 <Xaroth> meh, books never worked for me 23:05:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Xaroth: try learning old stuff 23:07:16 <Eddi|zuHause> so... apparently amarok has 175 urls which don't have a track but have statistics, 135 urls which have a track but no statistics, and 3 urls which have neither track nor statistics in the database 23:07:18 <Xaroth> then again, I don't think starting out with a lua enabled app is the best place to start C++ :o 23:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> the question is, where did those entries go... 23:07:52 <Xaroth> /dev/null ? 23:08:10 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 23:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ok... how do i read them out of there again? 23:08:16 <Xaroth> .. not? 23:08:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r17218 /trunk/src/3rdparty/minilzo/lzodefs.h: -Fix (r17216): missing '(' causing compile error 23:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause> well, obviously they got lost during the conversion from 1.4 to 2 23:08:52 <Eddi|zuHause> so i can reconstruct them from the 1.4 database 23:08:58 <Eddi|zuHause> but that is very tedious... 23:10:34 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 23:16:50 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:19:26 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-81-109-185-122.hers.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 23:29:00 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEc13f.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:47 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 23:32:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77DC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C7E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:33:51 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:40:07 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:48 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-148-36-126.range86-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:48:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.1.229.4] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0-rc3]