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00:02:50 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 00:02:54 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:26 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-82-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:32:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.16.205.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:41 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 00:42:46 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:01:32 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:31 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:13:30 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:20:19 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DF5DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:19 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 01:23:53 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:29:19 <z-MaTRiX> s?l?l? 01:29:41 <PeterT> ? 01:30:56 <De_Ghosty> http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/usmc_tshirt.gif 01:32:37 <PeterT> oh boy, i love funny junk (spam) 01:33:06 <PeterT> HAHAH 01:33:13 <PeterT> lol @ De_Ghosty 01:33:39 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn13-0-0-cust18.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34:20 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BDDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:40 <PeterT> fjb 01:36:25 <fjb_> Yes? 01:39:03 <PeterT> nothing 01:39:10 <PeterT> sorry, wanted to test something 01:39:24 <PeterT> Hello Frank J. Beckman 01:39:28 <PeterT> where are you from? 01:40:07 <fjb_> From here. 01:40:18 <PeterT> from NL? 01:40:20 <PeterT> UK? 01:40:21 <PeterT> HU? 01:40:31 <fjb_> Maybe. 01:40:44 <PeterT> which? 01:41:08 <DaleStan> Maybe he doesn't feel like sharing his location with the entire world? 01:41:10 *** JFBelugas [~jfranc@ip-225.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 01:41:11 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E836.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:15 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 01:41:20 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 01:43:36 <fjb> Everybody who really wants to know where I'm locate will find that out in a few seconds. 01:44:14 <JFBelugas> hoooo... i was dying to know that ;) 01:45:10 <fjb> Dying is your problem then. :-P 01:46:03 <JFBelugas> :) alll in black dye! 01:46:14 <JFBelugas> grrrr 01:46:33 <JFBelugas> how come there is no spell checker on those things :S 01:49:16 <fjb> I used you as a spell checker. 01:55:32 <JFBelugas> choose the wrong one ;) 01:55:45 <JFBelugas> i;ve got a spell on you 01:55:56 <JFBelugas> because you're mine! 01:56:02 <glx> ha your on the notebook :) 01:56:08 <JFBelugas> <lovely Animals song> 01:56:16 <JFBelugas> nope, not from last year... 01:56:45 <fjb> Recursive spell checking. :-) 01:57:09 <PeterT> I don't know how to set the country for my profile 02:02:28 <fjb> You don't have to. Comcast is located in the USA. 02:02:51 <PeterT> that requires observations. 02:03:11 <PeterT> for xchat, i right click, then see if the user has entered a country under "Country" 02:03:43 <glx> guessing from the hostmask is more fun :) 02:03:55 <glx> good luck with my IPv6 ;) 02:04:17 <fjb> Reverse lookup... 02:04:19 <JFBelugas> i am indeed, glx :) 02:05:00 <glx> bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net <-- my IPv4 is not easier :) 02:06:23 <JFBelugas> :) 02:06:31 <fjb> proxad.net is clearly france. 02:07:15 <glx> indeed, but as most french ISP it doesn't really tell the ISP name 02:07:53 <glx> and it's even worse for "merged" ISP 02:08:16 <JFBelugas> ? 02:08:21 <JFBelugas> merged? 02:08:42 <glx> ISP bough by other ISP 02:09:21 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:39 <fjb> "Free", what a name for an ISP... 02:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause> why? we had a "freenet" over here, too 02:11:35 <JFBelugas> oh... of course 02:11:49 <fjb> Its a subsidiary of Iliad. 02:12:14 <Eddi|zuHause> everything is a subsidiary of something nowadays 02:12:43 <Eddi|zuHause> it's for the "globalised" companies to launder their money and tax evasion 02:12:53 <fjb> Just an example how easy it is to find out how somebody is connected. 02:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> there's really just a handful of huge corporations which control the majority of the world 02:14:29 <fjb> How big are your hands? 02:14:55 <Eddi|zuHause> they even have their private armys so they can destabilise possibly upcoming countries and keep them from developing 02:15:00 <glx> now try with gaoland.net :) 02:16:02 <fjb> Also french. 02:17:11 <fjb> Societe Francaise du Radiotelephone. 02:17:28 <glx> that's the new owner yes 02:17:31 <glx> SFR 02:17:40 <glx> before it was 9Telecom 02:17:58 <fjb> I can only tell you what it is now. 02:22:39 <Eddi|zuHause> i've lost overview, once upon a time t-online split from telekom, but later they said they wanted to merge again, what's the current status? 02:24:13 <fjb> Its owned by the Telekom now. 02:25:05 <fjb> Telekom was once part of DP. 02:25:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but that was like 20 years ago 02:25:47 <glx> a long time ago AOL was an ISP :) 02:26:12 <Eddi|zuHause> afair. AOL withdrew from the german market 02:26:14 <PeterT> AOL was an ISP? 02:26:24 <PeterT> wow, must have been REALLY long time ago 02:26:26 <PeterT> :) 02:27:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i actually had an aol account 02:27:20 <fjb> AOL was not raelly an ISP in the beginning. They hat their own service, idependent of the internet. Same with MSN. 02:27:23 <glx> me too, for a month 02:27:43 * fjb never had an AOL account. 02:27:47 <Tefad> don't forget Prodigy 02:27:52 <Tefad> i was a prodigy kid ; ) 02:28:01 <PeterT> lol, i remember on commericials they would have to specially say for stubborn AOL users "aol keyword: here" 02:28:10 * PeterT uses AOL for AIM 02:28:19 <Eddi|zuHause> they were the only company which offered an ISDN flatrate 02:28:20 <glx> I think I still have many AOL CDs 02:28:36 <Tefad> i use aol's server for oscar communications over their IM network.. 02:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, yes, i have plenty of those :p 02:28:45 <fjb> glx: Do you remember Minitel? 02:28:51 <glx> yes 02:29:07 <PeterT> I bought Grand Theft Auto and guess what! i got an AOL cd! 02:29:10 <glx> never had one, but it was a useful tool 02:29:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i think ICQ is owned by AOL, too 02:30:02 <fjb> Same syten as BTX. 300bps receiving speed and 75bps sending. 02:30:33 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Yes, it is. 02:30:44 <fjb> And AOL ist Time Warner. 02:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> BTX, is that where you paid like 50? per page view? 02:31:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought time warner wanted to get rid of aol? 02:31:54 <fjb> Yes, kind of. Some pages where free. Commercial pages had different prices. 02:32:23 <fjb> Maybe they want to, but the still own AOL, as far as i know. 02:33:58 <Eddi|zuHause> even right after they merged, they said it was a total mispurchase 02:34:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and they wanted to get rid of it again 02:34:17 <fjb> There was an alphabetical list of all BTX pages (entry pages to the service). first pages of the ist where all "A"s. 02:34:37 <fjb> of the list 02:35:20 <glx> hehe Minitel still works 02:36:21 *** JFBelugas [~jfranc@ip-225.84.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> "some pages were free" <- yes, maybe, but the phone bill itself wasn't low either 02:36:34 <fjb> BTX was shut down years ago. 02:37:15 <fjb> I only had an BTX account to get a cheap modem. 02:50:52 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:16 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 03:01:14 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host81-129-82-241.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:16 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:09:18 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 03:13:26 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:13:39 <PeterT> who's tired? 03:15:54 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:33 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-58-248.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: I am goodger, please insert pepsi max] 03:36:56 *** goodger [~ben@host86-156-58-248.range86-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:39:41 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:41 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 03:46:34 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:47:05 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47:52 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 03:53:41 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:03:46 <PeterT> god, noone talks at 12AM, 6AM europe? 04:04:04 <FauxFaux> I'm here. \o/ 04:04:15 <PeterT> hello FauxFaux 04:04:22 <PeterT> whats up at 12/6AM? 04:04:52 <glx> it's only 5AM for him :) 04:05:02 <PeterT> lol, and for you glx? 04:05:08 <glx> 6AM here 04:05:31 <PeterT> what are you guys doing? 04:05:39 <glx> watching TV :) 04:05:52 <PeterT> i'm watching youtube 04:05:58 <PeterT> Evolution of Dance 04:08:26 <PeterT> hey fauxfaus, glx 04:08:33 <PeterT> can you look at this for a sec? 04:08:34 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=815689#p815689 04:08:44 <PeterT> do you like the signature i made for a mono set? 04:09:09 <FauxFaux> I'm trying to learn to play WoW, 'cos I don't have enough free time. 04:09:16 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09:21 <PeterT> WoW=for newbs 04:09:42 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 04:10:33 <glx> hmm WoW won't help you to get free time :) 04:12:18 <PeterT> lol 04:13:27 * PeterT loves GIMP 04:16:33 <PeterT> yet again, glx and fauxfaux aren't talking :( 04:16:50 <PeterT> i wouldn't expect them to be TOO awake at 5 or 6 AM 04:16:51 <PeterT> hehe 04:57:51 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: I'm off] 05:04:17 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.202.130] has joined #openttd 05:33:19 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:f15f:3c79:31f1:5135] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:39:34 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40:01 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 06:18:50 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-0bf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 06:31:38 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32:08 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 07:07:48 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 07:10:21 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:29:09 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 07:35:45 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has joined #openttd 07:40:18 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:25:01 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@232.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 08:25:08 <Terkhen> good morning 08:26:13 <Alberth> good morning 08:33:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E6D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:35:01 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:41:23 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd 08:49:06 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:50:30 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c35b2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:53:31 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:57:26 <Zuu> Good morning 09:01:39 *** Xeryus|bnc is now known as XeryusTC 09:05:39 *** [com]buster is now known as Combuster 09:07:26 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:49 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:18:06 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:10 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 09:34:13 <Eddi|zuHause> good morning 09:34:25 <TrueBrain> morning 09:34:29 <TrueBrain> DARN! I broke it :'( 09:36:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yes! you! 09:40:54 <TrueBrain> I AM SO SORRY!!! 09:41:16 <TrueBrain> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqgfvuo-9iY <- to make it up to you 09:47:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:50:21 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:51:02 <Eddi|zuHause> apology accepted :) 09:53:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 09:56:24 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17429 /trunk/src/saveload/oldloader_sl.cpp: -Fix (r16378): conversion of TTO/TTD savegames failed when vehicle 0 was a wagon 10:07:11 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:09:01 <TrueBrain> Saying to a suicide bomber: I wanne bet you can't do it again, is never funny 10:09:28 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, walter is great ;) 10:10:27 *** th1ngwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 10:11:20 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:14:09 <TrueBrain> and I am bored 10:15:07 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:23:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:07 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 10:35:47 *** Combuster is now known as [com]buster 10:40:15 <fjb> TrueBrain: Start a game. OpenTTD is fun, I have been told. :-) 10:40:32 <TrueBrain> I believe you are mistaken 10:40:50 <TrueBrain> I guess I will continue launching another project 10:44:28 <fjb> Or get a girlfriend. 10:44:35 <TrueBrain> ieuw 10:44:49 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-165.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:45:00 <fjb> There are many nice dutch girls, I have been told. 10:45:17 <TrueBrain> I can promise you that is the case :) 10:45:35 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 10:45:48 <SmatZ> http://www.traveljournals.net/pictures/l/3/32251-some-of-the-dutch-girls-and-i-sodrateater---stockholm-sweden.jpg 10:45:56 <SmatZ> first link in google images for "dutch girls" 10:46:16 <SmatZ> don't tell me google is wrong :-p 10:46:33 <TrueBrain> :s :s :s :s 10:47:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.22.60.26] has joined #openttd 10:47:24 <TrueBrain> http://euro2008girls.com/pics/dutch_girl_04.jpg <- 8th hit 10:47:47 <TrueBrain> hmm .. 5th image is a nude image .... you got to love google! 10:48:23 <TrueBrain> and it doesn't get any better ... omg ... 10:48:44 <SmatZ> :) 10:49:34 <Alberth> all from Amsterdam, no doubt :p 10:50:29 *** th1ngwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:52 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:01:26 *** Mark [~Mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:05:57 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:06:41 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07:28 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 11:09:09 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 11:23:45 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:30:51 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has joined #openttd 11:35:04 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.242.34] has quit [Quit: An exit status of zero indicates success, and a nonzero value indicates failure.] 11:57:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-216-225.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:08:57 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r17430 /trunk/bin/ai/regression/regression.sav: -Fix: svn:mime-type property was missing from regression.sav. 12:09:19 <TrueBrain> what does it do? 12:09:33 <frosch123> it keeps svn diff from going nuts 12:09:38 <TrueBrain> hehe 12:09:39 <TrueBrain> fair enough :) 12:16:07 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.249.149] has joined #openttd 12:21:20 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:26:34 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:29:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:31:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:36:54 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 12:38:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 12:58:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:10aa:733e:3832:ee8d] has joined #openttd 12:58:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:05:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:09:15 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 13:09:36 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:41 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:12:33 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-138-102.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:16:02 *** KritiK__ [~Maxim@78-106-220-197.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:18:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-216-225.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:18:13 *** KritiK__ is now known as KritiK 13:21:39 <_ln> how was West Berlin supplied after the airlift? freight trains from the west? 13:22:46 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-138-102.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:22 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-0bf2e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:01 <SmatZ> how long did it last? several days? 13:25:37 <SmatZ> if you mean the blockage of air supply 13:25:39 <SmatZ> errr 13:25:41 <SmatZ> .... 13:25:48 * SmatZ slaps himself 13:25:53 <SmatZ> nonsense 13:26:01 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-147-15.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:26:04 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:07 <_ln> several days = more like a year 13:29:37 <fjb> Yes, freight trains and usual trucks. 13:31:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-220-197.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:12 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 13:31:42 <_ln> wikipedia says "It was still possible to travel from West Berlin to West [...] by specific rail and autobahn transit routes set aside for that purpose". how did that work? train windows covered? what about the autobahn? 13:33:22 <fjb> No, you were just forbidden to leave the train or to leave the autobahn. 13:34:11 <fjb> The transit trains just didn't stop at any station between the border stations. 13:34:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.212] has joined #openttd 13:37:19 <_ln> A curious reader #elsewhere wants to know whether the autobahns were exclusively for western cars? 13:38:20 <fjb> No, they were not. 13:39:06 <fjb> They were usual DDR autobahns (existing from pre ww2 time). 13:39:33 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:41 <_ln> Was it advisable to hitch-hike on a western car / take hitch-hikers onboard? 13:40:14 <fjb> No, not really. Some tried, almost all got cought. 13:40:52 <fjb> Some could flee by jumping aboard a low speed train. 13:41:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-147-15.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:41:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-181-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:41:28 <PeterT> fjb: some tried ....? 13:41:49 <fjb> Yes, most got caught. 13:42:55 <PeterT> what did they try? 13:43:41 <_ln> fjb: Thank you for this enlightening description. 13:44:04 <fjb> Didn't like to live in a dictatorship. 13:44:25 <fjb> No problem. 13:44:45 <_ln> A Democratic dictatorship though! 13:44:48 <fjb> Just ask what you want to know. I try to explain, but my english is not the best. 13:45:17 <fjb> Yes, kind of democratic, like most dictatorships are. 13:46:22 <_ln> I see no flaws in your English, and you even have the apostrophe on your keyboard. :) 13:46:57 <fjb> I have. But I'm sometimes unsure about the spelling. 13:48:22 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-144-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:54:43 <fjb> The election in the DDR could optionally be open. You didn't have to fold the ballot or to put it into an envelope. You could show anybody where you made the cross. Maybe even colorcodet ballots were used. Everybody who did not show what he voted fpr was suspicious... 13:55:01 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-181-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:55 <SmatZ> north korea has "democratic" in its name too 13:58:03 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:14 <fjb> I bet they also held elections. 14:00:59 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 14:07:44 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:28 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:28 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-182-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:15:11 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:17:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-1ef4e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 14:20:01 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-144-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:38 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-1ef4e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:18 <TrueBrain> hmm .. what is the default palette SDL assigned to a 8bit window .. 14:54:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 15:02:28 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:02:53 <Yexo> good afternoon 15:05:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:25 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 15:21:44 <TrueBrain> Why oh why is Defying Gravity not in 720p available :( 15:23:10 <fjb> 720p ist too heavy. 15:23:19 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:24:52 *** Peter [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:04 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:00 <Eddi|zuHause> for a space ship? 15:27:53 <fjb> Shipping costs are very high in space. 15:28:58 <Rubidium> uhm... why? 15:29:20 <Eddi|zuHause> 720p is actually not heavy at all, it's the weight that an object with mass of 720g produces on earth surface 15:29:28 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-44.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Quit: I'll get you next episode, Inspector Gadget! NEXT EPISODE!] 15:29:49 <Rubidium> one of NASA's lunar probes has 461 GB/day bandwidth, more than enough for 720p ;) 15:30:09 <TrueBrain> I can send 400 of those in such case :) 15:30:13 <TrueBrain> 400 times 60 minutes .. 15:30:20 <TrueBrain> hmm .. you would run out of time to watch them! 15:30:33 <TrueBrain> you have to watch 15 at the same time, just to use the bandwidth :p 15:31:23 <Rubidium> @calc 720 * 1280 * 60 * 3600 * 24 / 1048576 / 1024 15:31:24 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 4449.46289062 15:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause> somehow, i don't have that problem... 15:32:04 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you calculated .. what? 15:32:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:32:22 <Rubidium> number of pixels * frames/sec * seconds in day / Gi 15:32:31 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-180-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:32:33 <TrueBrain> lol, since when is 1 pixel 1 byte? 15:32:37 <TrueBrain> we haven't had that for ages :) 15:32:55 <Rubidium> it's just to get a feeling for the amount of raw data 15:33:06 <Rubidium> with 1 byte per pixel it's ~4.5 TB/day 15:33:18 <Rubidium> so sadly enough you can't send it uncompressed 15:33:27 <TrueBrain> sadly? LOL! 15:33:54 <TrueBrain> but okay, in 'raw' format a more real value would be 15 TB/day :) 15:34:25 <TrueBrain> although it gives an interesting concept .. a 720p movie via a 8bit palette :) 15:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd go mad if i had 15 TrueBrains per day 15:34:41 <TrueBrain> poor Eddi|zuHause :) 15:34:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean one is kinda stretching it already ;) 15:35:11 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: btw, that also assumes there is no audio, which is kind of essential when wathcing any movie 15:35:20 <TrueBrain> of course we want 5.1 streams, say, DTS :p 15:35:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so... audio is like what? 10% of the file? 15:35:44 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:55 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: 10% of the file is not something you want to use in this case :) 15:35:57 *** Peter is now known as PeterT 15:36:15 <TrueBrain> (I mean, 10% of a divx gives a whole other value than 10% of a raw video) 15:36:33 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 15:36:43 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's like wav audio vs. mp3 audio 15:37:35 <TrueBrain> 6.0 Mbit/s is DTS on BR 15:38:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-182-106.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:05 <TrueBrain> @calc 6 * 3600 * 24 / 8 / 1024 15:38:05 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 63.28125 15:38:11 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 15:38:12 <TrueBrain> so a small 63 GB extra 15:38:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and with 720p you usually have 6 channels (5.1), while on a "normal" divx you have 2 channels (stereo), so the ratio actually stays the same 15:38:34 <TrueBrain> 15 TB against 63 GB is not 10% 15:38:47 <Eddi|zuHause> considering that the 720p is typically 3 times bigger 15:39:30 <Eddi|zuHause> and the companies processing the movies are most likely to process uncompressed images 15:39:44 <TrueBrain> so a 10% ratio means nothing when you start to combine different elements 15:39:55 <TrueBrain> you can only say: for a divx with 2.0 mp3 audio the normal ratio is 10%, or what ever 15:40:18 <TrueBrain> for example, bluray has 6.0 mbit/sec DTS, where HD-DVD has just 3.0 mbit/sec DTS 15:40:29 <Xaroth> o_o 15:40:47 <TrueBrain> assuming both use 4 GB of audio, this has a bit difference in ratio 15:40:53 <TrueBrain> @calc 6 * 3600 * 2 / 8 15:40:53 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 5400 15:41:11 <TrueBrain> hmm .. how big is a BR disk? :p 15:41:24 <TrueBrain> 25 GB :) 15:41:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought they were both different size anyway 15:41:34 <TrueBrain> so 20% for BR, and 10% for HD-DVD (on average) is audio :p 15:41:57 <TrueBrain> ah, yes, HD-DVD is 'just' 15 GB :p 15:42:04 <TrueBrain> @calc 5.4 / 25 15:42:04 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 0.216 15:42:10 <TrueBrain> @calc 2.7 / 15 15:42:10 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 0.18 15:42:19 <TrueBrain> both clearly not 10% :p 15:42:47 <TrueBrain> (okay, it is not really fair, as the last few years people started to value audio more and more, so it gain size with respect to video) 15:43:10 <PeterT> Yexo: 15:43:17 <PeterT> what is your custom airports patch about? 15:43:29 <Eddi|zuHause> custom airports maybe? 15:43:33 <Xaroth> doesn't the name say it all? 15:43:33 <TrueBrain> NO! 15:43:36 <TrueBrain> GET OUT OF HERE! 15:43:41 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 15:43:46 <TrueBrain> I watched too much Jeff Dunham :) 15:43:54 <Xaroth> heh 15:44:20 <TrueBrain> LOL! A 8x BR writer writes at 288 mbit/sec ... 15:44:30 <PeterT> i dont understand, what kind of airports? 15:44:33 <TrueBrain> the ones planes land on 15:44:47 <Xaroth> not really .. fast 15:44:48 <PeterT> why are they 'custom'? 15:44:53 <TrueBrain> because they are not regular 15:44:53 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: isn't SATA 2 limit like 300mbit? 15:44:59 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: yup 15:45:13 <TrueBrain> in theory BR can write at 12x ... 15:45:18 <TrueBrain> 432 mbit/sec ... 15:45:30 <PeterT> TrueBrain...TrueBrain 15:45:37 <KingJ> I thought it was 3gbit, but due to overheads it comes out at 300mbyte? 15:45:39 <TrueBrain> PeterT...PeterT 15:45:42 <PeterT> heha 15:46:01 <TrueBrain> KingJ: you are right, factor 10 off ;) 15:46:09 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:54 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [Quit: Reboot] 15:47:21 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/mini_airport.png <- custom enough for you 15:47:24 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:37 <PeterT> Eddi|zuHause, yes, thanks 15:48:18 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: or maybe this? http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/test_airport.png 15:48:35 <PeterT> thats a strange looking one 15:48:39 <TrueBrain> clearly time to get some food 15:48:48 <PeterT> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/rotated_airport.png 15:48:51 <PeterT> or that ^^ 15:49:00 <Xaroth> lol 15:49:09 <Xaroth> would be fun to see a plane land on that... 15:49:45 <PeterT> that a heli 15:49:57 <PeterT> yeah, plane immediate crash 15:50:34 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 15:50:35 <PeterT> http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/ 15:54:21 <helb> 17:48:48 Eddi|zuHau | PeterT: http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/mini_airport.png <- custom enough for you Katt 15:54:24 <helb> aww 15:54:26 <helb> sorry 15:54:47 <PeterT> ? 15:55:03 <helb> copying gone wrong 15:55:36 * frosch123 slaps Eddi|zuHau 15:55:40 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has joined #openttd 15:56:35 <frosch123> the name suggests it :) 15:58:00 <Eddi|zuHause> well, I do the hau-ing ;) 15:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate english... you can't emphasise the "I" by capitalising it... 15:58:40 <frosch123> :p 15:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> and my transformator doesn't yield enough power to turn the magnetic switches and signals... 16:01:03 <frosch123> then transform it into a more powerful one 16:01:04 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.249.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:03:09 <Yexo> http://devs.openttd.org/~yexo/mini_airport2.png <- now with rotation :) 16:03:18 <Yexo> I'll see you later :) 16:04:09 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:18 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.226.145] has joined #openttd 16:05:12 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:59 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:07 <Eddi|zuHause> people will complain because they can't place rails on the half-green airport tiles 16:07:22 <PeterT> and if you make a patch that allows that, people will complain that their openttd is slow. 16:09:29 <frosch123> no, they will complain that there is nothing to complain about 16:10:10 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:59 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 16:11:19 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:32 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 16:11:48 <PeterT> frosch123: therfore, there is something to complain about, breaking the space-time continium, so they would never have complained in the first place 16:12:00 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 16:12:57 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF80C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:13:42 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF80C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:13 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF80C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:34:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.169.250] has joined #openttd 16:34:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 16:36:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17431 /trunk/src/saveload/oldloader_sl.cpp: -Fix (r16735): oldloader wasn't updated 16:40:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i still have no idea how SmatZ finds these... 16:43:17 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: from what I hear, he has this magic ball 16:43:19 <TrueBrain> it is really amazing 16:44:21 <SmatZ> :) 16:44:38 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: this one, loading of TTO game crashed on sunos 16:46:26 <TrueBrain> btw, SmatZ, I was wondering about the other patch, about the size_t casts 16:46:42 <TrueBrain> you cast v->next to (size_t) and compare it with 0xFFFF, which is not always of size_t size (64bit systems) 16:46:49 <TrueBrain> so it size_t really wanted here? 16:47:13 <TrueBrain> (truly wondering, nothing more :)) 16:48:15 <SmatZ> yeah :) 16:48:28 <SmatZ> actually 16:48:31 <SmatZ> it doesn't warn, so... 16:48:38 <SmatZ> it warned the other way around :-p 16:48:44 <TrueBrain> (I always see size_t as 'between' step to cast to void *, but never to compare with normal values) 16:49:00 <TrueBrain> yeah, but casting to (uint16) would be more sensible, not? 16:49:07 <TrueBrain> if ((size_t)v->next == 0xFFFF) { <- I mean thatone btw 16:49:17 <SmatZ> you would need (uint16)(size_t)v->next 16:49:21 <SmatZ> this is shorter ;) 16:49:27 <SmatZ> and 0xFFFF is int 16:49:36 <SmatZ> so you wouldn't help yourself anyway 16:49:52 <TrueBrain> true :) 16:50:14 <TrueBrain> k, tnx :) 16:50:49 <frosch123> is intptr_t already part of some "standard" 16:51:23 <SmatZ> frosch123: it's only "recommended" 16:51:25 <SmatZ> in C99 16:51:29 <SmatZ> not mandatory 16:51:46 <TrueBrain> why do I hate standards which 'recommend' stuff? 16:51:53 <TrueBrain> it makes it useless :( 16:52:04 <TrueBrain> (as there is always some big compiler which refuses to implement it :p) 16:52:29 <PeterT> SmatZ: the noterraform.diff on your dev page, what revision is that for? 16:52:55 <frosch123> what do the first 5 lines say? 16:52:57 <SmatZ> --- src/network/network_server.cpp (revision 13155) 16:52:58 <SmatZ> +++ src/network/network_server.cpp (working copy) 16:53:00 <SmatZ> :-p 16:53:03 <PeterT> sorry 16:53:11 <TrueBrain> reading is something you have to get used to ;) 16:53:18 <PeterT> doesnt seem like that many lines of code 16:53:26 <PeterT> do you think it will work for 0.7.2? 16:53:58 <frosch123> 0.7.2M :p 16:54:26 <PeterT> M? 16:54:26 <TrueBrain> frosch123: it is server-only, so in theory the M can be removed ;) :p 16:54:44 <PeterT> so if you terraform, you will be kicked? 16:54:52 <TrueBrain> although the user would be annoyed as he doesn't see his action happening :p 16:55:00 <PeterT> :) 16:55:20 <frosch123> TrueBrain: you mean, the user fill desync immediatelly? 16:55:25 <TrueBrain> frosch123: no 16:55:39 <SmatZ> terraform commands are silently ignored 16:55:42 <TrueBrain> if I read the first patch correctly, and nothing significant has changed in that area, the server ignores the terraform 16:55:49 <TrueBrain> meaning you click as client, and you never see the action 16:55:49 <SmatZ> and clients won't get message about that command 16:55:52 <SmatZ> black hole 16:55:54 <TrueBrain> getting annoyed, clicking harder and harder :p 16:56:05 <TrueBrain> what SmatZ says :) 16:56:17 <frosch123> TrueBrain: but the client gets a CMD_ERROR which differs form its local state, doesn't it? 16:56:32 <TrueBrain> frosch123: no, the message is never bounced back 16:56:46 <TrueBrain> the state-check if only between the test of the command and the really executing of it 16:57:02 <TrueBrain> when you do a command, you send it to the server, and kind of forget all about it :p 16:57:16 <TrueBrain> when it bounces back (what normally happen in network_frame_freq, or what is the var), it happens 16:57:51 <TrueBrain> but okay, my knowledge is slightly out-dated, so I wouldn't put my hands in the fire for the above statement :p 16:57:51 <PeterT> im gonna test it? 16:58:02 <SmatZ> are you? 16:58:04 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:13 <PeterT> lets see how it handles against 0.7.2 16:58:15 <Eddi|zuHause> am i here? 16:58:18 <PeterT> SmatZ: yes i am 16:58:23 <TrueBrain> who am I? 16:58:35 <PeterT> I have not seen TrueBrain. 16:58:38 <Eddi|zuHause> why do these pink elephants fly? 16:58:40 <TrueBrain> 'I' as in, the person who speaks, is a capital btw :p 16:58:44 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. and i am always going to not capitalise it 16:59:10 <TrueBrain> I hate you :p 16:59:15 <Eddi|zuHause> except when i don't. 16:59:28 * TrueBrain hugs Eddi|zuHause 16:59:49 <PeterT> i dont know what i think 17:01:05 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I had to look in the code, but my statement is correct :) 17:01:05 <PeterT> is noterraform3.diff -p0 or -p1? 17:01:24 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-215-114.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause> read the damn diff 17:01:35 <PeterT> READ?! 17:01:54 <Eddi|zuHause> if it starts with "a/" and "b/", it's -p1 17:01:57 <PeterT> got it, -p0 17:02:00 <PeterT> ? 17:02:18 <Eddi|zuHause> if it starts with "src/", it's -p0 17:02:37 <PeterT> yes 17:02:50 <PeterT> src/settings.cpp 17:03:14 <TrueBrain> sometimes it is good that I don't have a webcam attached 17:03:32 <PeterT> even if you did, this is IRC... 17:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause> or a device that stabs people over the internet? :p 17:03:43 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: ghehe :) 17:03:54 <SmatZ> :-D 17:04:08 <PeterT> hunk FAILED? 17:04:32 * TrueBrain picks up a rope and starts making something out of it 17:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> means your computer is going to explode, PeterT 17:04:45 <TrueBrain> does google maps show nearby trees that are high enough? 17:04:57 <PeterT> why would you ask, persay? 17:05:02 <Eddi|zuHause> the patch will self destruct in 5 seconds 17:05:10 <Eddi|zuHause> "persay" is not a word 17:05:16 <PeterT> per-say 17:05:33 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: now THAT would be a cool feature! 17:05:55 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: it's spelled "per se" 17:06:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-180-6.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:04 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 17:06:08 <PeterT> per se 17:06:10 <PeterT> sorry 17:06:16 <PeterT> Eddi where are you from? 17:06:24 <Eddi|zuHause> home. 17:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought my nick was giving that away 17:06:37 * PeterT thinks people europe are better at english than amerIcans 17:06:45 <TinoDidriksen> PeterT, per se is Latin. 17:06:49 <PeterT> Germany? 17:06:51 <PeterT> dutch? 17:06:54 <PeterT> dutchie 17:08:17 <Eddi|zuHause> when asre you going to learn this, 95% of people in here are from europe 17:09:00 <PeterT> i knew that 17:09:08 <TrueBrain> but he forgot, hence 'knew' over 'know' ;) 17:09:28 <PeterT> Eddi: where are you from? 17:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> /whois? 17:09:43 <TrueBrain> why does my IRC client show 'TrueBrain' twice in the list? :p 17:10:00 <Rubidium> cause of the importance of said user 17:10:14 <PeterT> Berlin, Germany? 17:10:15 <TrueBrain> that might explain why you are there 10 times .. 17:10:35 <PeterT> TrueBrain is from USA :O 17:10:41 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: wrong part of the whois 17:10:46 <TrueBrain> I am? COOL! 17:10:49 <TrueBrain> I just relocated! :) WHOHO! 17:11:08 <PeterT> * [Eddi|zuHause] (~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net): Johannes E. Krause 17:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause> again with the reading... 17:11:08 <PeterT> * [Eddi|zuHause] #openttd 17:11:08 <PeterT> * [Eddi|zuHause] reticulum.oftc.net :Berlin, Germany 17:11:08 <PeterT> * [Eddi|zuHause] 84.183.122.233 :actually using host 17:11:08 <PeterT> * [Eddi|zuHause] End of WHOIS list. 17:11:14 <PeterT> this is all it gives me 17:11:17 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by DorpsGek 17:11:17 *** PeterT was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [no spam] 17:11:25 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by DorpsGek 17:11:35 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:39 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:42 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #openttd [Leaving] 17:11:51 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:08 <fjb> Johannes Eddi Krause :-) 17:12:17 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: that means the server "reticulum" is in berlin, not that i am 17:13:09 <PeterT> so i have to guess from your name that your ***? 17:13:17 <PeterT> *** = nationality 17:13:23 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Don't confuse him with such minor details. 17:13:26 <TrueBrain> no, they are stars 17:13:28 <Eddi|zuHause> my ***? 17:14:10 <Eddi|zuHause> what is with my ***?, that sentence is missing a finite verb. 17:14:18 <SmatZ> PeterT: you could guess that from "zuHause" 17:14:20 <TrueBrain> ass? :) 17:14:23 <PeterT> no 17:14:23 <SmatZ> :-D 17:14:32 <TrueBrain> IT FITS! 17:14:48 <PeterT> fine, your german 17:15:00 <PeterT> even if you're not, now you are 17:15:01 <TrueBrain> yeah, Eddi|zuHause, be like that! Pfff 17:15:08 <fjb> His german is really fine. 17:15:08 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: that is open for a lot of misunderstandings and misassociations... 17:15:19 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: really? Didn't notice :p 17:15:28 <TrueBrain> I would never say such things 17:15:39 <SmatZ> [19:15:06] <PeterT> even if your not, now your <== fixed 17:15:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you've said way worse over the time ;) 17:15:57 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: me? :p 17:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: yeah, i was thinking the same ;) 17:16:04 * TrueBrain looks innocent 17:16:25 <PeterT> TrueBrain: how are you coming with that rope? 17:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: before getting tied up with the rope (:p), what happened to WT 3.1? 17:17:09 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: too many other fun things came along :p 17:17:35 <TrueBrain> currently launching another project, after which I will put a bit of attention to WT3.1 .. the base structure is nearly completed 17:17:46 <TrueBrain> I was hoping to have that all done before the end of this month, so 17:18:12 <TrueBrain> (if my classes don't become too demanding, that is 17:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause> * TrueBrain looks innocent <- does that look remotely like this? http://nimmermehr.ch/2008/01/28/Gestiefelter_Kater_Shrek2-1413.jpg 17:19:21 <TrueBrain> I look more like this: http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/photo_me/TrueBrain-Climbing8.jpeg 17:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> that is close enough, i presume ;) 17:20:00 <frosch123> no that's the poor dutch guy whose identity you took over 17:20:30 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-143-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:20:56 <PeterT> who is that girl in this picture? http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/photo_me/TrueBrain-Climbing2.jpeg 17:21:08 <TrueBrain> none of your business what so ever 17:22:33 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... my mouse is going completely belly up... 17:22:42 <TrueBrain> give him some food 17:22:48 <glx> <Eddi|zuHause> * True.Brain looks innocent <- does that look remotely like this? http://nimmermehr.ch/2008/01/28/Gestiefelter_Kater_Shrek2-1413.jpg <-- so cute :) 17:23:06 <TrueBrain> did my name receive a dot? :) 17:23:23 <glx> to prevent useless HL 17:23:47 <TrueBrain> ah, tnx :p 17:24:08 <PeterT> ? 17:24:18 <PeterT> smatz: what the hell? 17:24:29 <Yexo> bye 17:24:32 *** Yexo [~Yexo@ip51cca4b5.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 17:25:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by DorpsGek 17:25:30 * TrueBrain smells something good coming up :) 17:25:42 <SmatZ> nah :) 17:25:48 <SmatZ> I changed my mind ;) 17:25:52 <TrueBrain> too bad 17:25:59 <TrueBrain> but no worries, it will happen sooner or later anyway :) 17:26:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-215-114.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:07 <SmatZ> hehe 17:26:11 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 17:27:10 <PeterT> what is openttd.tgp? 17:27:15 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho ;> 17:27:19 *** mode/#openttd [+b PeterT!*@*] by SmatZ 17:27:19 *** PeterT was kicked from #openttd by SmatZ [User terminated!] 17:27:28 <TrueBrain> told you :) 17:27:32 <SmatZ> hehe 17:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the secret hideout ;) 17:27:45 <TrueBrain> but you can also make DorpsGek do that directly :) No need to do a +o ;) 17:28:00 <SmatZ> yeah 17:28:10 <SmatZ> I always forget order of command parameters 17:28:20 <TrueBrain> I type it often enough :p 17:28:26 <SmatZ> is that "kban #openttd nick timeout message" ? 17:28:38 <TrueBrain> yup :) You can ommit the timeout if you like 17:29:02 <Ammler> just run it without parameter 17:29:08 <Eddi|zuHause> what if i want the message to start with a number, but don't want to give a timeout? 17:29:39 <SmatZ> :-) 17:29:40 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: '0' ;) 17:30:24 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.64.182.plusnet.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:30:33 <TrueBrain> btw, it was my screenshot which gave that channel away 17:30:51 <TrueBrain> fuly my mistake :) 17:31:35 <TrueBrain> I always forget when making a screenshot people will look at them in detail finding weird shit :p 17:32:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-161.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:32:16 <glx> it could have been mine too 17:32:23 <TrueBrain> no, he was looking over my shots :) 17:33:04 <TrueBrain> I believe no other crucial information is in my shots :) 17:33:26 <frosch123> what you don't have your passwords as desktop wallpaper? 17:33:36 <TrueBrain> well, IRC shows your password in plaintext 17:33:42 <TrueBrain> it is JUST behind a window :p 17:34:54 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:02 <TrueBrain> but okay, I had to read over the text too, to see if there wasn't anything nasty in them :p ghehe :) 17:35:12 <frosch123> who decided to make the fill the screen behind the 2050 newpaper with red, or is that colour random? 17:35:25 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 17:35:28 <TrueBrain> wasn't it always yellow? 17:35:38 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-226-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:37:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen that newspaper 17:37:34 <frosch123> you get it when you need to fast forward 100 years 17:37:42 <TrueBrain> or start in 2049 17:37:51 <frosch123> it always stops then :p 17:45:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r17432 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 17:45:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 21 changes by arnau 17:45:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 4 changes by Gavin 17:45:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: danish - 7 changes by silentStatic 17:45:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 6 changes by Bart 17:45:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hebrew - 47 changes by dnd_man 17:52:04 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@g228086195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:52:31 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0BA46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:54:56 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:51 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejo11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:58:56 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-224-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:59:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228017000.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:59:38 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:00:27 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 18:04:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-226-185.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:04:59 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:05:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-159-245.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:08:55 *** Hexan [Hexan@home.hexan.dk] has joined #openttd 18:09:29 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 18:11:49 *** KritiK__ [~Maxim@78-106-146-139.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:11:54 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-224-116.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:14:43 <SmatZ> [19:35:19] <frosch123> who decided to make the fill the screen behind the 2050 newpaper with red, or is that colour random? <== I thought it's black 18:14:46 <SmatZ> in my games 18:15:10 <frosch123> yeah, i just had a red one, which i never noticed before 18:15:14 <frosch123> so maybe it is undefined 18:15:55 <Ammler> company color of the leader. :-) 18:16:13 <Ammler> (well, no idea) 18:16:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-159-245.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:16:29 *** KritiK__ is now known as KritiK 18:16:29 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 18:17:33 <frosch123> tihs time it's violet 18:18:05 <SmatZ> you broke it :-p 18:19:12 <frosch123> rewind one year, replay, again violet 18:19:59 <TrueBrain> rewind? COOL! How did you do that? 18:20:02 <frosch123> restarting ottd and displaying the highscore is black 18:20:14 <frosch123> but before it was violet 18:20:21 <TrueBrain> I guess someone forgot to define the colour ;) 18:20:44 <TrueBrain> http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt <- I truly LOVE the beginning of their reply :) The rest is a bit bitchy :) 18:21:24 <frosch123> :p 18:21:53 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:09 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:26 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 18:25:39 *** bb10 [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:27:04 <frosch123> greyish-light-blue, does not look that bad actually 18:27:07 <fjb> The world is round, the head too. But still the view of the world doesn't fit into most heads. 18:27:27 <frosch123> but there is a one pixel pink border at top and left 18:33:00 <SmatZ> !?drowssap 18:33:05 <SmatZ> good good :) 18:33:28 <TrueBrain> euh.... :p 18:34:30 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 18:35:21 <frosch123> lovely rtl :) 18:39:05 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@79.88.141.156] has joined #openttd 18:39:19 <SmatZ> :) 18:41:29 *** bb10_ [~nn@dhcp-077-248-075-030.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:49:23 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 18:52:57 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.46] has joined #openttd 18:54:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r17433 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): 18:54:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Store cumulated inflation in savegame and compute all prices from that instead of storing all prices separately. 18:54:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Note: Savegame conversion computes the inflation from max loan. Prices from modified savegames will get lost. TTO savegames will also behave slightly different. 18:54:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: NewGRF price modifiers now take effect everytime when loading NewGRFs instead of once on gamestart. 18:54:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r17434 /trunk/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.sav regression.txt): -Update (r17433): The regression needs a new trick to not become bankrupt. 18:56:13 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-98.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:06 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-27.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 18:59:16 <Prof_Frink> welshdragon: Yes, yes there is. Somewhere nearby there's a sign saying Ham / Sandwich. 18:59:18 <Terkhen> wow 18:59:41 <welshdragon> Prof_Frink: are you logs watching? 18:59:44 <welshdragon> :o 18:59:58 <Prof_Frink> Not exactly. 19:00:01 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 19:05:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so... what's the new trick? 19:06:08 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-27.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:06:59 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-27.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 19:08:34 <frosch123> you can tell from regression.txt 19:10:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i fail to read something out of that... 19:11:18 <SmatZ> + GetMaxLoanAmount(): 2000000000 19:11:33 <Eddi|zuHause> aha 19:12:18 <Eddi|zuHause> svn is weird... -r accepts HEAD, but -c does not... 19:12:31 <Ammler> oh, did you fix that "magic number bug"? 19:12:45 <Eddi|zuHause> which magic number? 19:12:52 <frosch123> seconded 19:13:10 <Ammler> oh no, I had the max "give money" in mind. 19:13:20 <fjb> frosch123: Cool commit. 19:13:51 <frosch123> thanks :) though i was working on it before you asked yesterday :p 19:14:37 <fjb> frosch123: I didn't think you implemented it because of my question. 19:14:43 <SmatZ> nah, frosch123 had no sleep to fulfill your wishes ;) 19:15:09 <frosch123> yup, i anticipated his request 19:15:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i admire the way you didn't spoil that this was coming ;) 19:17:02 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: i learned that i do not finish 90% of what i start 19:17:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i know that feeling ;) 19:17:40 <frosch123> so i try to shup up :p 19:24:34 *** TinoDid [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:24:34 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:36 *** TinoDid is now known as TinoDidriksen 19:30:22 <fjb> My personal dev... :-) 19:30:37 <SmatZ> :) 19:33:57 <planetmaker> [21:17] <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: i learned that i do not finish 90% of what i start <-- ugly feeling, yes. But truth sometimes hurts. Maybe it's called growing up, though ;-) 19:35:06 * SmatZ wonders who is older, frosch123 or planetmaker? ;) 19:35:24 <SmatZ> I hate the feeling of having unfinished work 19:35:28 <SmatZ> it stresses me 19:35:31 <SmatZ> :( 19:35:37 * planetmaker hugs SmatZ 19:35:43 <SmatZ> and the heap of it is still growing! :( 19:35:57 <planetmaker> SmatZ: I guess I'm older than most (not all though) in this channel 19:36:04 <frosch123> luckily you forget the things at the bottom :p 19:36:12 <planetmaker> frosch123: exactly ;-) 19:36:21 <planetmaker> first in first forgotten queue :-P 19:36:32 <planetmaker> FIFF in short 19:36:33 <TrueBrain> nobody is older than Belugas :) 19:36:38 <SmatZ> hmm there are things I would rather forget 19:36:42 <SmatZ> but I can't :( 19:36:48 <planetmaker> :-( 19:36:49 <Ammler> TrueBrain: maybe fjb is :P 19:36:51 <TrueBrain> goatse.cx? 19:36:52 <frosch123> TrueBrain: wrong in fact 19:36:56 <SmatZ> hehe, nah 19:37:03 <TrueBrain> frosch123: really?! I would have sworn I was correct :p 19:37:05 <TrueBrain> lol :) 19:37:11 <planetmaker> :-D 19:37:23 <frosch123> TrueBrain: nite_owl is about as old as him, andersi is about 10 years older 19:37:33 <planetmaker> he :-) 19:37:34 <TrueBrain> I can only hope people are older than Belugas :) 19:37:52 <Prof_Frink> \o/ goatse! 19:37:56 <SmatZ> :-D 19:38:04 * fjb thinks that Belugas might be a bit oder. 19:38:21 <Ammler> fjb: you missed a d or l 19:38:22 <Prof_Frink> Odder? Certainly. 19:38:26 <SmatZ> actually, yes, I googled for "Ingo von Borstel" quite recently :) 19:38:45 <SmatZ> found some interesting pdf :) 19:39:04 <fjb> Can I buy a l? 19:39:23 <SmatZ> planetmaker: how do you feel since there are only 8 planets in the solar system? :( 19:39:49 <planetmaker> actually: great :-) 19:40:24 <planetmaker> a small dwarf which constantly tried to say "me! me! me!" without good reason. Basically like many non-grown ups. 19:40:29 <SmatZ> hehe 19:40:34 <planetmaker> when he is grown up, I'd gladly welcome him ;-) 19:40:36 <TrueBrain> oeh, like PeterT? :) 19:40:59 <planetmaker> any references to this channel or the forums are purely co-incidential ;-) 19:41:06 <SmatZ> planetmaker: was there a planet between Mars and Jupiter in the past? 19:41:11 <planetmaker> nope. 19:41:18 <SmatZ> hehe 19:41:30 <Ammler> he is still working on.... 19:41:34 <planetmaker> :-) 19:41:43 <TrueBrain> talking about unfinished work 19:41:49 <planetmaker> nah, I make complete solar systems rather :-) 19:42:03 <planetmaker> it's easier ;-) 19:42:03 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:23 <KenjiE20> dibs on my name in a glacier 19:43:31 *** TinoDidriksen [~tino@port432.ds1-od.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:43:49 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:01 *** Aankhen`` [~foo@122.162.167.218] has quit [] 19:46:19 <SmatZ> planetmaker: I am sorry if my last question angered you :() 19:46:19 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: wasn't there some kind of problem when having more than two objects? :) 19:46:20 <SmatZ> :( 19:47:21 <SmatZ> hehe 19:47:42 <planetmaker> SmatZ: angered? I have no reason to be angered... 19:47:54 <TrueBrain> I can fix that! :) :) :) 19:47:56 <SmatZ> ok :) just you didn't answer :( 19:47:57 <planetmaker> Nor am I :-) 19:47:58 <SmatZ> :-D 19:48:00 <TrueBrain> (it is the BOFH in me :p) 19:48:01 <planetmaker> uh? 19:48:26 <planetmaker> SmatZ: there was no planet: 19:48:28 <planetmaker> [21:41] <SmatZ> planetmaker: was there a planet between Mars and Jupiter in the past? 19:48:30 <planetmaker> [21:41] <planetmaker> nope. 19:48:47 <SmatZ> ah, sorry, I thought it's a reply to TrueBrain 19:48:49 <planetmaker> TrueBrain: I believe you to the last comma 19:49:19 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: so why is there an asteroid belt instead of a real planet? 19:49:27 <planetmaker> The answer to TB was the irony-soaked reply with "purely incidential" ;-) 19:49:29 <TrueBrain> because the real planet was never formed? :p 19:49:33 <planetmaker> ^^ 19:49:46 <planetmaker> tides from jupiter basically. resonances 19:50:11 <SmatZ> planetmaker: I heard some theory about Mars and "the other planet" colliding, then maybe the crash creating some particles, crashing Earth and causing Moon to appear... and such :-p 19:50:35 <planetmaker> eh... rather not :-) 19:50:47 <planetmaker> but it needed a mars-body to hit Earth in order to form Moon 19:50:49 <Eddi|zuHause> planets crashing... sounds unlikely 19:50:55 <TrueBrain> you do know NGC and Discovery Channel mostly broadcasts bullshit? :) 19:51:11 <TrueBrain> (was just a general observation :)) 19:51:14 <frosch123> so original engame newspaper uses some weird brown at the border, while opengfx uses something quite more blackish 19:51:22 <SmatZ> 8-) 19:51:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know either NGC or Discovery Channel 19:51:26 <frosch123> what colour to fill the border with? 19:51:28 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: planets: yes. Planetesimals or protoplanets: not unlikely at all in the late heavy bombardment. 19:51:29 <TrueBrain> frosch123: and it is random at you why? 19:51:57 <frosch123> TrueBrain: trunk is random as END_COLOUR results in an out-of-bounds read 19:52:00 <planetmaker> or where do you think the giant craters like the maria on the Moon or the big 11km deep crater on Mars come from? 19:52:09 <SmatZ> frosch123: TTD-black :) opengfx can be modified to use TTD colour, but not the other way around (imho) 19:52:11 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:13 <TrueBrain> frosch123: but of the gfx defines the colour? 19:52:19 <fjb> I thought the asteroids were spare parts. 19:52:39 <planetmaker> fjb: rather left-overs 19:52:50 <SmatZ> [21:52:08] <planetmaker> or where do you think the giant craters like the maria on the Moon or the big 11km deep crater on Mars come from? <== God's will? :-p 19:53:01 <planetmaker> :-) That may still be true. 19:53:07 <SmatZ> hehe 19:53:08 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: it doesn't take a planet-sized object to form an 11km crater 19:53:17 <planetmaker> :-) 19:53:25 <planetmaker> 11km deep 19:53:32 <planetmaker> not width 19:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i know 19:54:09 <Eddi|zuHause> but 11km deep is not big either, when the radius is 3000km 19:54:18 <planetmaker> 2300km wide. which is a medium-sized asteroid of 230km width impacting 19:54:19 <SmatZ> from what I heard about apocalytic scenarios, only few kilometers wide asteroid would be enough to kill all people (in effect) 19:54:38 <planetmaker> SmatZ: certainly true 19:54:44 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: yes, but not due to the impact 19:54:49 <SmatZ> yeah 19:54:51 <planetmaker> the climate change would work wonders 19:54:55 <Eddi|zuHause> rather from the climate changes 19:55:03 <SmatZ> I thought the dust would settle in weeks, at most 19:55:20 <planetmaker> nope 19:55:23 <planetmaker> :-) 19:55:28 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has joined #openttd 19:55:49 <planetmaker> if ejected to the higher atmosphere it will circle for months, if not years in the stratosphere 19:56:09 <planetmaker> like the dust from Pinatubo was the next months creating nice, colourful sunsets. 19:56:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has joined #openttd 19:56:12 <frosch123> but there is a certain chance it will hit water 19:56:20 <planetmaker> frosch123: doesn't matter 19:56:30 <planetmaker> not for that size 19:57:00 <frosch123> impacting in the pacific will still cause dust :o 19:57:10 <planetmaker> I would guess, yes. 19:57:12 <TrueBrain> hmm .. I am going to try uzbl :p If I ever can get it compiled :p 19:57:15 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: there's not much water left in 11km depth 19:57:29 <planetmaker> and water is easily displaced :-) 19:57:42 <planetmaker> the tsumami will be unique, though ;-) 19:57:56 <frosch123> hmm, ok 19:58:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but the tsunami hardly kills all people 19:58:07 * SmatZ lives ~400 km from nearest sea :) 19:58:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm 160m above sea level 19:58:47 <TrueBrain> ... hmm .. 10km from the nearest sea, and about 1m above sea level 19:58:53 <SmatZ> there are quite many nederlanders here though :-x 19:58:54 <planetmaker> @calc 150000^3 * 3000 * 30000^2 / 2 19:58:54 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 19:59:06 <planetmaker> @calc 150000**3 * 3000 * 30000**2 / 2 19:59:06 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 4556250000000000237494075392 19:59:11 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: the term for that is "Arschkarte" :) 19:59:17 <TrueBrain> that is a BIG number 19:59:25 <planetmaker> ^^ released kinetic energy in Joules for a 150km diameter impactor 19:59:27 <KenjiE20> that's a lot of zero's 20:00:01 <Prof_Frink> planetmaker: What's it made of? Lead? Aerogel? 20:00:06 <planetmaker> stone 20:00:09 <SmatZ> :) 20:00:11 <planetmaker> 3g/cm^3 20:00:12 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: how many tschernobyl explosions are that? 20:00:12 <Prof_Frink> rawk. 20:01:07 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: give me the number and I can tell you ;-) 20:01:11 <planetmaker> but many 20:01:16 <frosch123> [21:59] * SmatZ lives ~400 km from nearest sea :) <- isn't czech somewhat valley-like? 20:01:17 <SmatZ> @calc log(4556250000000000237494075392) / log(10) 20:01:17 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: 27.6586075457 20:01:37 <TrueBrain> @calc log(10) 20:01:37 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 2.30258509299 20:01:41 <TrueBrain> hmm, ln .. 20:01:48 <planetmaker> :-) 20:01:48 <TrueBrain> why do math people always fuck up log vs ln .. :( 20:02:03 <z-MaTRiX> @alc log(-1) / log(sqrt(-1)) 20:02:07 <z-MaTRiX> @calc log(-1) / log(sqrt(-1)) 20:02:07 <DorpsGek> z-MaTRiX: 2 20:02:10 <Eddi|zuHause> log is always ln in any math program i know 20:02:10 <z-MaTRiX> yey 20:02:25 <Terkhen> @calc sqrt(-1) 20:02:26 <DorpsGek> Terkhen: i 20:02:27 <SmatZ> frosch123: most of czech rep is above 200m above sea I think ;) 20:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc log(10,2) 20:02:29 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 3.32192809489 20:02:34 <SmatZ> prague is at ~350m 20:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc log(256,2) 20:02:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 8 20:02:56 <planetmaker> @calc log(4556250000000000237494075392,10) 20:02:56 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 27.6586075457 20:02:58 <frosch123> @calc log10(10) 20:02:59 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) 20:03:05 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has joined #openttd 20:03:08 <frosch123> @calc lg(10) 20:03:08 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Error: 'lg' is not a defined function. 20:03:16 <frosch123> so, no nasty stuff 20:03:35 <planetmaker> @calc 1000**3 * 3000 * 30000**2 / 2 20:03:35 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 1350000000000000000000 20:03:44 <z-MaTRiX> @calc log(sqrt(-1)) 20:03:44 <DorpsGek> z-MaTRiX: 1.57079632679i 20:03:46 <planetmaker> @calc log(1000**3 * 3000 * 30000**2 / 2,10) 20:03:46 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 21.1303337685 20:04:00 <planetmaker> ^^ still, one km wouldn't be much better :-) 20:04:28 <SmatZ> :) 20:04:32 <frosch123> z-MaTRiX: pi/4 20:04:39 <planetmaker> @calc log( (1000**3) * 3000 * (30000**2) / 2,10) 20:04:40 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 21.1303337685 20:04:51 <Eddi|zuHause> how much does an asteroid lose during atmospheric entrance? 20:04:53 <planetmaker> good. Doesn't matter and priority is conserved :-) 20:04:57 *** mode/#openttd [-b PeterT!*@*] by SmatZ 20:05:02 <frosch123> *2 20:05:02 <Eddi|zuHause> (i.e. how big must an object be to actually reach the surface) 20:05:05 <Xaroth> wait, PeterT got banned? 20:05:08 <Xaroth> woot, finally :P 20:05:09 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:05:10 <glx> depends on the angle 20:05:19 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: depends on size. 20:05:20 <KenjiE20> lol Xaroth 20:05:25 <SmatZ> :) 20:05:41 <planetmaker> glx: the angle can indeed case it to flipper like a stone on water :-) 20:06:06 <SmatZ> hehe 20:06:14 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: size: depends upon structural integrity. 20:06:36 <planetmaker> it maybe very small, if solid rock or iron meteorite. 20:06:56 <planetmaker> or it may fragment like probably the tunguska one did. 20:07:04 <planetmaker> and explode in mid-air 20:07:08 <Aali> what if it's made of unobtanium? 20:07:12 <Eddi|zuHause> who names these things? 20:07:19 <planetmaker> so: >100m is probably a sure hit on the ground 20:07:25 <SmatZ> planetmaker: do you think dinosauruses (dinosarii?) died because of asteroid impact? 20:07:35 <planetmaker> yes, I think it quite plausible 20:07:38 <Aali> dinosaurs 20:07:46 <Eddi|zuHause> the russians did not die 20:08:05 <planetmaker> it was only a few 10m... 20:08:23 <SmatZ> interesting 20:08:27 <planetmaker> but flattened 100s of sqkm of land 20:08:27 <Prof_Frink> http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/cgi-bin/crater.cgi?dist=10&diam=1000&pdens=1500&pdens_select=0&vel=17&theta=45&tdens=2500&tdens_select=0 20:08:34 <Prof_Frink> boom. 20:08:41 <Aali> nice to see #openttd completely off topic, as always :) 20:08:48 <planetmaker> :-P 20:08:52 <Prof_Frink> #openttd has a topic now? 20:08:54 <TrueBrain> it was scary for a few days, all that ontopic blabla 20:08:58 <Eddi|zuHause> there are plenty of impact craters all over the world 20:09:08 <SmatZ> :) 20:09:31 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: and if we didn't have plate tectonics there'd be so many more... 20:09:46 <planetmaker> max. age of surface features is like 200 million years or so. 20:09:55 <planetmaker> on Earth 20:10:07 * planetmaker happily continues on topic :-P 20:10:11 <SmatZ> :) 20:10:25 <TrueBrain> on 'a' topic, would be the correct way of saying that 20:10:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i once heard that an impact hit the hudson bay 20:10:39 <Eddi|zuHause> and it is still in motion from that impact 20:10:43 <Aali> you should add a meteor impact disaster to openttd 20:10:48 <SmatZ> :) 20:10:54 <TrueBrain> Aali: you just made it ontopic 20:10:55 <TrueBrain> grrr 20:11:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd yell "kick him", but it is a dangerous phrase to say ;) 20:11:26 <Eddi|zuHause> it could... backfire :p 20:11:28 <planetmaker> Aali: I added the Mars heightmap. Does that suffice? ;-) 20:11:29 <Prof_Frink> Aali: What, just an earth-shattering kaboom and a game over screen? 20:11:33 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: you are catching on :) 20:11:34 * SmatZ wonders how to make "openttd" banned word in konversation 20:11:39 <Aali> Prof_Frink: yes, yes, I like that 20:12:02 <Aali> planetmaker: does it have a mars-shattering kaboom? 20:12:04 <SmatZ> @learn "*openttd*" kick 20:12:08 <SmatZ> :) 20:12:14 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: ask glx :) 20:12:18 <SmatZ> :) 20:12:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never figured out konversation-scripting 20:12:32 *** williham [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 20:12:54 <SmatZ> i've never knew there is any :( 20:13:05 <PeterT> sounds intesne 20:13:08 <Eddi|zuHause> it comes with a few builtin scripts 20:13:08 <PeterT> *intense 20:13:38 <Eddi|zuHause> like the media script 20:13:55 <planetmaker> Aali: well... that'd need scripting in OpenTTD :-) 20:13:59 * Eddi|zuHause is watching Conan o'Brien-20090906-205900.m2t [Kaffeine] 20:15:05 * planetmaker grabs another Episode of "Big Bang Theory" 20:15:14 <TrueBrain> I can't wait for the new episodes :) 20:15:16 <TrueBrain> 2 weeks left 20:15:24 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by DorpsGek 20:15:24 *** PeterT was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [and I know timed kban now!] 20:15:39 <SmatZ> hooray! 20:15:41 <TrueBrain> concratz SmatZ :) 20:15:45 <SmatZ> thanks :) 20:16:00 <KenjiE20> lol 20:16:02 <Terkhen> two weeks is too much... 20:16:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i should probably start watching that in english... 20:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> the german translation of TBBT is probably shit 20:17:26 <glx> SmatZ: kick on openttd would be silly :) 20:17:31 <Terkhen> the spanish translation gave me nightmares 20:17:37 <TrueBrain> glx: no, it would be fun fun fun! 20:18:03 <SmatZ> :-) 20:18:10 <glx> kicking CIA-1 is not fun :) 20:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Terkhen: i thought there's a rather big market for spanish translations in the usa 20:18:18 <frosch123> did i miss something? more kicks? 20:18:37 <TrueBrain> glx: ignore CIA ;) 20:18:47 <frosch123> what did peter this time? 20:19:06 <TrueBrain> being himself .. but that is not really a compliment :) 20:19:06 <Eddi|zuHause> kicking anyone pointing to the website? ;) 20:19:27 *** [wito] [~wito@25.244.251.212.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:32 <Terkhen> I don't know about that... but this translation wasn't made in the usa 20:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i heard something about spanish-speaking population reaching 15% in the USA, and thus forming the largest minority 20:23:03 <SmatZ> I... I... I... just can't help myself :( 20:23:09 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by SmatZ 20:23:09 <TrueBrain> so don't 20:23:36 <SmatZ> I can't be BOFH 20:23:40 <SmatZ> no matter how hard I try 20:23:46 <Terkhen> yes, but I don't think that they are actually making translated versions directly... otherwise I wouldn't have to wait so much time for the subtitles 20:23:53 <TrueBrain> SmatZ: give it some time :) 20:24:20 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:30 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: I can't :( 20:24:35 <SmatZ> I will try :) 20:24:49 <TrueBrain> You know what, you be my PFY for now, then you will learn it soon enough :p 20:25:04 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5ad1ee01.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:25:14 <SmatZ> hehe 20:28:53 * fjb gives SmatZ a LART. 20:30:03 <SmatZ> hehe 20:30:34 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad46218.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:30:34 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 20:34:50 <TrueBrain> :/usr/include/libsoup-2.4/libsoup/soup-session-feature.h:21: warning: struct has no members 20:34:52 <TrueBrain> bah ... 20:35:09 <fjb> Oh, oh... 20:36:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r17435 /trunk/src/ (cargotype.h economy.cpp table/cargo_const.h): -Codechange: Move _cargo_payment_rates[] to CargoSpec::current_payment. 20:38:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 20:40:26 <_ln> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Classic-WTF-The-Cool-Cam.aspx 20:40:47 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 20:41:59 *** green-devil [~anet@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:42:00 *** green-devil [~anet@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:09 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:42:11 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 20:42:26 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 20:42:28 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a9a89.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #openttd [] 20:44:46 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:58 *** Peter [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:28 *** Peter [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:47:16 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 20:47:37 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:03 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c35b2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:48:28 *** [com]buster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:45 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:45 <DaleStan> Yexo (Pounce message): You may have noticed that I extended the format for 0.dat in r2197. It's bi-directionally compatible with the previous format. 20:49:46 <DaleStan> Yexo (Pounce message): But one of the new tricks is that you can get NFORenum to check that the airport tiles are defined if you change the airport prop 0A data so tile ids are read with 0A, not 02. (Provided 2v.dat reports 0D as the "other" type for feature 10.) 20:49:55 *** Choco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:23 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:35 <Yexo> good evening 20:50:51 <PeterT> good evening Yexo 20:51:03 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBC2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:51:03 *** Choco-Banana-Man is now known as Coco-Banana-Man 20:54:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause> who was that? 20:56:06 <TrueBrain> who was who? 20:56:16 <Eddi|zuHause> i got thrown off 20:56:20 <TrueBrain> Yexo: I am glad that you can understand newgrf things .. it still makes my head spin :p 20:56:28 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-50-189.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:30 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 20:56:31 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: happens 20:56:50 <Yexo> Eddi|zuHause: * Eddi|zuHause heeft verlaten (Remote host closed the connection) 20:57:15 <Yexo> TrueBrain: at first it did that too me too, but when I finally got around to working with it it's actually quite nice 20:57:28 <TrueBrain> Yexo: hehe :) Well, keep on going, I say :p 20:57:37 <Xaroth> Yexo: you nutter :P 20:57:54 <Eddi|zuHause> at least konversation changed the message from "no error" to "unknown error"... that was always weird... 20:58:05 <TrueBrain> Yexo: really the translation is "heeft verlaten" ... omg .. that translation sucks! 20:58:12 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: hehe, mine still does that :p 20:58:49 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen that message reporting an actual error 20:58:54 <Xaroth> TrueBrain: when has dutch translation ever made sense? 20:59:00 <TrueBrain> fair point 20:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> you poor dutch, having a language that can't possibly make any sense 20:59:48 <Yexo> TrueBrain: it does indeed, but since there aren't that many strings I can't be bothered to switch the language 21:00:09 <Xaroth> Eddi|zuHause: point :P 21:00:27 <TrueBrain> I still have to find a better alternative to Konversation 21:00:32 <TrueBrain> as its colouring of peoples name just sucks 21:00:39 <Xaroth> IRSSI \o/ 21:00:49 <TrueBrain> I was talking about a real and sane IRC client 21:00:53 <TrueBrain> not some ... weird ass client 21:00:54 <Xaroth> it's real, and sane 21:00:58 <Xaroth> just.. text based :P 21:01:13 <Eddi|zuHause> TrueBrain: you can turn off the colouring ;) 21:01:27 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause: I can also terminate IRC all together 21:01:35 <TrueBrain> but it doesn't really help me in the way I was hoping it would :) 21:01:45 <Eddi|zuHause> no, you can't... it's a phrase all addicted people use 21:02:01 <Eddi|zuHause> "i can stop whenever i want to" 21:02:14 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has left #openttd [bye :)] 21:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> he's not going to sustain this very long :p 21:02:57 <_ln> and he didn't terminate the irc client, just parted 21:04:28 <Eddi|zuHause> _ln: "the cool cam" <- is that where they programmed this flight simulator? 21:04:43 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:04:45 <_ln> that's the one 21:05:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that's truely classic 21:05:21 <Eddi|zuHause> always have a feature to show your boss :) 21:06:50 <glx> and carefully hide the bugs :) 21:07:50 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc4-papw2-0-0-cust778.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:29 <Terkhen> hmmm... the language select dropdown is not being redrawn correctly and behaves strangely in r17435 21:09:15 *** dasy2k1 [~quassel@cpc4-with1-0-0-cust90.bagu.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:09:45 <dasy2k1> anyone here? 21:09:49 <Yexo> no 21:10:33 <Yexo> dasy2k1: if you have a question, just ask it 21:10:57 <dasy2k1> sorry my client had hidden the names list, it looked like i was in an empty channel 21:11:38 <dasy2k1> can anyone see my server? the game name is "PAX/MAIL only uk" 21:12:07 <dasy2k1> im not 100% sure if my port forwarding is working properly 21:12:12 <Rubidium> can servers.openttd.org see it? 21:12:37 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@79.88.141.156] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:12:55 <dasy2k1> ah yes, its there, i diddnt know that page existed 21:12:59 <dasy2k1> thanks Rubidium 21:13:16 <Yexo> dasy2k1: see topic :p 21:14:29 <dasy2k1> now i just have to wait for somone to see it and think that it may be worth joining 21:14:38 <dasy2k1> :-) 21:15:09 <Yexo> from servers.openttd.org: "There are 144 clients, 144 IPv4 servers and 1 IPv6 servers." 21:15:17 <Yexo> enough servers, not enough players 21:16:55 <PeterT> dasy2k1, what version? 21:17:03 <dasy2k1> what times of day are normally busy? 21:17:17 <dasy2k1> PeterT: 0.7.2 21:17:28 <PeterT> coming, i have an extra nice patch with 072 21:17:42 <Yexo> dasy2k1: dunno exactly, but there are always +- as much players as servers 21:17:52 <SmatZ> PeterT: what patch? 21:18:15 <PeterT> server list filter, inteligent depots, copy paste, new grf gui 21:18:22 <SmatZ> ok :) 21:18:24 <PeterT> shall i keep going? 21:18:27 <Rubidium> I've not seen a moment where 2 * #server < #players yet 21:18:50 <SmatZ> :( 21:19:02 <dasy2k1> PeterT: will this work in multiplayer without everyone having to have it? 21:19:13 <PeterT> yes, its a client-side patch 21:19:28 <PeterT> multiplayer patch pack by bilbo 21:19:33 <PeterT> for 0.7.2 21:19:47 <PeterT> he hasn't released binaries, only the patch, so i needed to patch it myself 21:19:50 <Rubidium> intelligent depots is MP safe? 21:19:51 <Yexo> another desyncable patch pack 21:20:06 <SmatZ> hehe 21:20:09 <dasy2k1> i can patch anything myself 21:20:22 <PeterT> oh sorry, intelli-depots is another one 21:20:26 <dasy2k1> liklyhood that binarys are no use to me anyway 21:20:32 <PeterT> i couldnt add it without failed hunks 21:20:50 <PeterT> dasy2k1, i cant join, i need grfs 21:21:05 <PeterT> i will PM you them 21:21:45 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:12 <Rubidium> gheheh... if I can't make binaries that work for you you're probably using a really old OS 21:23:53 <planetmaker> or an unsupported ;-) 21:24:01 <Rubidium> or an odd architecture 21:24:31 <Rubidium> like s390 21:24:39 <SmatZ> hehe 21:24:47 <PeterT> try cross compiling windows to linux 21:25:29 <dasy2k1> PeterT: thats a new one on me.... the other way round i have attempted (with little sucsess) 21:26:23 <PeterT> windows developing enviorments are so bad its indescribable 21:26:40 <PeterT> Windows' devs probably use mac/linux to make windows 21:26:47 <dasy2k1> when most poeple say they have bins they normally mean windoze .exe s 21:27:54 <dasy2k1> cant say i blame them really, i would certianly not use windows for anything even if it was free 21:28:06 <planetmaker> I usually offer them then a mac binary 21:28:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:28:53 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:58 <planetmaker> for security reasons I should find the alphas in the institute, get OpenTTD to compile there and offer its result. 21:29:06 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 21:31:45 <fjb> I once got asked for a binary. So I put one on the forum. People started to compain that it did not work... 21:38:36 <Eddi|zuHause> a file consisting of only 1s and 0s does not constitute a binary ;) 21:40:02 <fjb> It was a working OpenTTD binary. 21:41:05 <Yexo> DaleStan: thanks, it works nicely :) 21:43:18 <planetmaker> hehe @ fjb 21:43:23 <planetmaker> I should do that, too ;-) 21:43:39 <planetmaker> was it solaris or freebsd? 21:43:49 <fjb> FreeBSD 21:44:17 <Tefad> Eddi|zuHause: you mean ascii encoded '0' and '1' ? 21:44:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Tefad: yes, that i meant ;) 21:45:00 <Tefad> ah ha. 21:45:36 <Tefad> you could mask it against 0xFE to extract the 0 and 1 bit parts 21:45:43 <planetmaker> :-) 21:53:46 <fjb> I have a depot that eats trains. :-( 21:54:05 <Sacro> omnomnom 21:54:45 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0BA46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 21:54:58 *** `Fuco`` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 21:56:20 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:59 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1D58.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:32 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17436 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Change: pay only for cargo actually delivered, not for all cargo unloaded at station (can differ with 'stockpiling' industries) 22:00:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B1027.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:00:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:00:41 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aejo11.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i can't figure out why this train is always derailing at the same place 22:01:20 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [] 22:01:35 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:49 *** `Fuco`` is now known as Fuco 22:02:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i should probably start considering just buying new tracks 22:02:06 <fjb> What train is it? 22:02:46 <Eddi|zuHause> an E 11 with 4 long passenger wagons 22:03:45 <fjb> Which one derails an from which manufacturer is it? 22:04:23 <Eddi|zuHause> as far as i can tell, all are from pre-1990 piko 22:04:29 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 22:04:37 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 22:05:11 <fjb> Piko is known to run well. 22:05:29 <fjb> Wher is it derailing? 22:05:55 <Eddi|zuHause> the tracks are probably bad... it's some old swiches 22:06:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r17437 /trunk/src/economy.cpp: -Change: don't accept cargo produced in the same industry (generalise and improve the check used only for valuables) 22:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause> the tracks are also pre-1990 22:06:35 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-0-119-221.nrth.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 22:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but i can't isolate the exact place where it's going wrong 22:07:58 <Eddi|zuHause> when i let just the engine run, the second "drehgestell" of the engine derails, when i let the full train go, the second wagon derails 22:08:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that wagon is a little shorter than the others 22:09:36 <PeterT> could you add a feature which allows me to cut someone from the server, (kick) without them knowing i kicked them? 22:09:56 <PeterT> just say "game connection lost" instead of "you have been kicked" 22:10:03 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has quit [] 22:10:15 <Terkhen> why do you need to do that? 22:10:24 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: that feature exists, it's called a firewall 22:10:35 <PeterT> not when you only have the rcon 22:10:38 <PeterT> ;) 22:11:24 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Then it is really hard to find. I would also blame the track. 22:12:08 <fjb> Remote firewall configuration... 22:13:00 <PeterT> it would be easier to have "rcon pw cut 426" 22:14:12 <PeterT> 426 not actually being the client number 22:14:19 <fjb> But why not telling them that they got kicked? 22:15:01 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:28 <SmatZ> PeterT: why? 22:15:38 <SmatZ> do you want to be cut instead of kicked? 22:15:45 <SmatZ> I could implement it for openttdcoop server 22:15:50 <SmatZ> would be fun :-p 22:15:53 <SmatZ> for you ;) 22:16:01 <SmatZ> and for me ;) 22:16:03 <PeterT> no, i want to make someone lose their connection 22:16:16 <Yexo> SmatZ: now you spoiled the fun :( You should've told him his connections wasn't good 22:16:32 <SmatZ> Yexo: ow :( 22:16:46 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT wants to have his BOFH phantasies 22:19:25 <PeterT> can you implement it? 22:19:36 <PeterT> No jokes please 22:19:44 <Yexo> yes 22:19:46 <Eddi|zuHause> no. it's impossible to implement. 22:20:05 <Eddi|zuHause> this is not a joke. 22:20:18 <SmatZ> hehe 22:20:20 <SmatZ> NO! 22:20:33 <Yexo> can != will 22:20:51 <Yexo> but still NO is probably the better answer :) 22:21:22 <PeterT> ok, no. thanks anyway 22:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you still have not answered the question "why?" 22:21:47 <SmatZ> PeterT: still I don't see the reason for that 22:22:07 <SmatZ> the sad thing is that if I ever implement it, it will be used against you :( 22:22:57 <SmatZ> PeterT: but... learn C(++)! it will be useful in your future life ;) 22:23:07 <PeterT> theres this really annoying kind on a server, if i kick him, he pm's me until my eyes bleed. its easier to be able to cut his connection 22:23:12 <PeterT> yes smatz, im learning c++ 22:23:19 <PeterT> book arrived a while ago 22:23:26 <SmatZ> great :) 22:23:32 <PeterT> i can convert celcius to farenheight 22:23:51 <Yexo> why not just ban him if he is that annoying? 22:24:18 <Rubidium> you know what's annoying? People talking about him... 22:24:41 <PeterT> ok fine, i see you've already made up your mind, no point in argueing the matter 22:25:05 <fjb> There are more annoying persons in the world... 22:26:05 <Eddi|zuHause> may i suggest an annoying person as candidate for a ban? :) 22:26:21 <SmatZ> PeterT: I think, you should have a look at something like ConKick and ... Network*::CloseConnection() or so... 22:26:53 <PeterT> no smatz, not that deep into C++ 22:28:26 <Yexo> DaleStan: airports can have a single sprite (preview in gui). To support this properly in nforenum I need a patch: http://pastebin.com/m7823c233 22:28:38 <Yexo> maybe it's an idea to move that property to the data files? 22:31:01 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:00:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@161-18-80-78.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:08:01 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17438 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/cocoa_v.h: -Fix (r17428): ofcourse some part of the OSX port would be forgotten due to it being so much different than the rest :( 23:13:53 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g228086195.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 23:16:18 <Yexo> .. 23:16:31 <Yexo> sorry, wrong window 23:19:31 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19:55 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 23:32:53 *** satan2k [~satan2k@ip-213-49-253-27.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:32:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:14 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:35:35 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.2/20090729225027]] 23:37:26 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:48 *** voker57 [~voker57@85.175.11.189] has joined #openttd 23:38:08 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:48:55 <Terkhen> good night 23:48:57 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@232.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:50:18 *** Kodk [~Kodak@h-120-136.A254.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 23:52:30 *** thingwath [~thingie@88.83.164.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57:33 *** Kodak [~Kodak@h-120-136.A254.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:53 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]