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00:01:05 <Terkhen> good night 00:01:07 *** Terkhen [~terkhen@144.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 00:05:32 *** CraKinShOt [~NO@host86-142-33-64.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 00:18:43 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177231133.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:23:36 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-161-232-194.range86-161.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:24:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.3.22.140] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 00:26:22 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177238047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:07 <nicfer> hey Zuu, I've tried to run your openttd auto updater under wine for updating windows versions of openttd (which I'll also run over wine) and it tells me an error about some XML file 00:32:52 <Eddi|zuHause> wine commonly has XML problems, usually needs native msxml3.dll 00:49:38 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 00:58:46 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:58:56 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 01:03:53 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:57 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:03:58 *** Dreamxtreme_ is now known as Dreamxtreme 01:09:15 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:09:15 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.74] has joined #openttd 01:11:38 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:12:01 <PeterT> could someone be so kind as to try the wiki for me? It doesn't seem to work for me 01:12:04 <PeterT> timeout errors 01:14:03 <TinoDidriksen> Loads for me 01:15:51 *** PeteT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:15:52 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:32 <PeteT> ok, it's working now 01:16:39 *** PeteT is now known as PeterT 01:17:07 <PeterT> can i add the "reconnect" console command to the wiki page about the console? 01:17:36 <TinoDidriksen> It's a wiki... 01:18:43 <PeterT> what I meant was... 01:18:46 <PeterT> it's not in stable yet 01:18:54 <PeterT> people might get the wrong Idea 01:19:19 <TinoDidriksen> So put a note about which revision it's in. 01:20:30 <PeterT> got it 01:27:01 *** Mks [~mks@c83-176-234-98.cust.tele2.se] has quit [] 01:28:22 <PeterT> how's that? 01:30:52 <PeterT> Here: http://wiki.openttd.org/Console#Game_commands 01:56:10 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 02:00:12 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: I'm off] 02:03:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051087112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 02:08:55 *** Audigex [~audigex@89.240.249.40] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009082707]] 02:29:52 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.105.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:31:17 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ad41:7d34:b3ea:1e10] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:41:21 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-161-232-194.range86-161.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:19 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 03:05:01 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:40:06 *** me [~me@user-0c90n1c.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 03:41:55 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n1c.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:09:29 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 05:09:38 *** Lordnokon [~thefiler0@dsl-240-151-50.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [] 05:12:38 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:12:39 *** Dreamxtreme_ is now known as Dreamxtreme 05:42:11 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc1-papw2-0-0-cust1013.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 05:45:28 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@static217-26.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:58:28 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 06:02:19 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13:29 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:38:15 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc1-papw2-0-0-cust1013.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: The opinions that are held with passion are always those for which no good ground exists; indeed the passion is the measure of the holderÂ’s lack of ration] 06:42:07 <dihedral> morning 06:44:04 <Noldo> morning 06:51:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:56:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF96.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:02:28 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:35:32 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 07:48:58 *** Aankhen`` [~hey.squid@122.162.164.221] has joined #openttd 07:51:23 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:02:44 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@145.118.72.64] has joined #openttd 08:26:23 *** Muxy [~Benoit@smtp.bdelalande.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:07 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051087112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:53:18 *** Dred_furst [~Dred@cpc3-pool3-0-0-cust999.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49:58 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:56:43 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 10:07:15 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:51 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 10:07:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 10:11:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1EF96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:19:51 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 10:20:47 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@192.094.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:22:20 *** fjb_ [~frank@p5485BB15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:12 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@192.094.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:29:07 *** fjb [~frank@p5485B47D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:35 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-144-134-197-114.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:32:00 *** FrankyJones [~FrankyJon@dyn163-031.student.wi.hro.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:50 <FrankyJones> Goodafternoon, im using openttd and runned into a real noobie problem, can anyone give me some advice? 10:34:14 <Rubidium> your 'free' advice: ask something related to the problem you've got instead of asking the meta-question whether you may ask something (which is a paradox) 10:36:32 <Doorslammer> ^ Be specific, in other words 10:39:32 <FrankyJones> Ok well srry for that, my trains run from all over the map to one central delivery zone. Also the product fruit comes from production places to this zone. Only today a new fruit 'forrest' has been created next to my delivery zone, automaticly directly delivering fruit to the stations in this zone, causing all my incoming (loaded) fruit trains to reload before they leave again. In my eyes only solution is to move the stations, but the r 10:40:17 <Rubidium> change the 'load order' to "no loading" 10:40:18 <Yexo> give all your trains "no load" orders for the destination station 10:41:22 <FrankyJones> Ok Im gonna try that, srry for the newbie question... everybody has to start once right ;) Thanks 10:42:33 *** FrankyJones [~FrankyJon@dyn163-031.student.wi.hro.nl] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 10:44:21 <Doorslammer> Is there a waqy to make non-loading default? 10:44:24 <Doorslammer> *way 10:45:56 <Yexo> not that I know of 10:46:24 <Rubidium> there is, but that implies changing the code 10:50:16 <dihedral> hehe 10:50:21 <dihedral> there is always a way? :-D 10:51:16 <Doorslammer> Ech, I'l pas on that for now then 10:55:24 <Doorslammer> Bloody FilterKeys 10:55:37 <Doorslammer> I hate those SHIFT button features 11:01:28 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17597 /trunk/ (11 files in 5 dirs): -Codechange: rename namegen* to townname* 11:08:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.254.93] has joined #openttd 11:10:23 <dihedral> Doorslammer, dont have a shift key? 11:11:56 <Doorslammer> I do, but they sneaky turn on if not wary of it 11:13:36 <Aankhen``> You can turn that behaviour off. 11:14:21 <Doorslammer> Hmmm, still looking for that at the moment 11:14:30 <Aankhen``> Which version of Windows? 11:15:01 <Doorslammer> Vista 11:15:16 <Doorslammer> I think it's off now 11:15:20 <Doorslammer> Thankfully 11:15:36 <Aankhen``> Control Panel -> Ease of Access Center -> Make the keyboard easier to use -> Set up Filter Keys 11:15:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 11:20:39 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:21:22 <Doorslammer> Yep, I think thats been done 11:21:31 <Aankhen``> Should take care of it then. 11:23:56 <Doorslammer> Cool 11:26:14 *** zachanim1 [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 11:33:02 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:21 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DDA02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:01 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7166:cd4:a0dc:df4b] has joined #openttd 12:00:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:20:02 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]] 12:25:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.96] has joined #openttd 12:31:43 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA2E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:38:25 *** me is now known as zodttd 12:39:20 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B26C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Icebears are cute. Please, take care of them!] 12:41:57 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B26C0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:42:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:47:04 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:04:30 <Belugas> hello 13:08:14 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:09:42 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 13:28:08 *** Terkhen [~terkhen@144.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 13:29:27 <Terkhen> hello 13:30:58 *** mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:31:11 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.233.125] has joined #openttd 13:31:21 *** mark is now known as Guest3175 13:31:33 *** Guest3175 is now known as Mark 13:32:58 *** Mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 13:39:28 *** bernaise [~Gyumao@p5B042524.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:40:04 *** bernaise [~Gyumao@p5B042524.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 13:47:49 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 13:47:59 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.233.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:47 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:20:20 <dihedral> http://www.openttd.org/en/server/12580 <- hehehehe 14:47:58 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 14:54:38 <Rubidium> oh MYOB... where art thou? 14:58:06 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 14:58:11 <Eddi|zuHause> dihedral: what exactly is funny about that? 15:06:14 *** Guest3191 [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:06:59 *** Guest3191 is now known as Mark 15:11:42 <Xaroth> 7.2 ? 15:20:48 <Belugas> naa.... you don't get it: dihedral is proud to show he finally got a server live 15:23:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0eda.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17598 /branches/0.7/ (13 files in 3 dirs): 15:42:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: [0.7] -Backport from trunk: 15:42:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Vehicle image was not always updated when needed (r17594) 15:42:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: [NoAI] Could not query the size of small airports when they could not be build anymore [FS#3212] (r17591) 15:42:22 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Erroneous message about changing the difficulty level [FS#3220] (r17588) 15:42:24 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: - Fix: Assertion triggered when the second vehicle in a 101+ (or 11+ if mammoth trains is disabled) vehicle free wagon chain is an engine and the first vehicle is moved to another chain [FS#3208] (r17576) 15:47:40 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17599 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix: configure script didn't detect icc when CC included path to compiler 15:53:04 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 16:15:47 *** Azrael- [~azraeluk@cpc1-papw2-0-0-cust1013.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:24:29 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:48 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.96] has joined #openttd 16:32:48 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA2E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32:56 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeje123.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:36:20 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:33 *** blathijs [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 16:52:38 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:53:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:53:42 *** Audigex [~audigex@89.242.163.246] has joined #openttd 17:01:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host17-232-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:01:47 <Wolf01> hello 17:03:14 <dihedral> Eddi|zuHause, 7.2? 17:03:20 <dihedral> Belugas, aint my server!! 17:04:25 <Belugas> he... not me finding it ""hehehe"able ;) 17:04:31 <Belugas> so we have to guess! 17:06:32 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17600 /trunk/src/querystring_gui.h: -Cleanup: remove unused variable 17:06:58 *** welsh [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:09:36 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:17:19 <fjb> It is a tropical server. That orange makes me psychedelic. 17:24:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17601 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r17592): don't mark cargo as 'accepted' when accepted amount is 0 17:24:43 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 17:27:59 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA2E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:44 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@147.251.209.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:20 <Ammler> blathijs: debain package builder can't handle bzip2 source packs? 17:45:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17602 /trunk/src/lang/ (english_US.txt russian.txt unfinished/vietnamese.txt): 17:45:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: english_US - 2 changes by agenthh 17:45:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: russian - 1 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:45:26 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: vietnamese - 6 changes by nglekhoi 17:47:24 <frosch123> somehow it is a bad idea to name software with girl's names. googling stuff about it is always annoying :( 17:49:04 <SmatZ> :) 17:50:06 <fjb> Better girls names than ".net". 17:52:22 * fjb doesn't know any girl called BSD, Linux, Java, Windows, Office or gcc. 17:52:58 <Sacro> C# is an arse too 17:54:59 <Rubidium> savannah? 17:55:50 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051236201.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:58:01 * fjb doesn't know any girl or software with that name. 17:58:48 <blathijs> Ammler: Until recently it couldn't, but I think they can now 17:58:58 <blathijs> Ammler: Haven't tried yet, though 17:59:42 <blathijs> frosch123: Recently, I'd seen some project named "SHE", which resulted in all sorts of hilarious remarks during the presentation :-) 17:59:46 <Ammler> well, it isn't that important, suse rpm builder does complain about. 18:00:05 <Ammler> it would like source files in bzip2, but it is able to use gzip 18:02:38 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051087112.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:38 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:06:08 <blathijs> Ammler: What does suse have to do with my debs? Or are we only releasing sources as tgz? 18:06:38 <Ammler> well, it isn't suse, it is rpm in general, afaik 18:07:05 <Ammler> opengfx source packages are tar.gz 18:07:25 <blathijs> Ah, right. IIRC openttd releases both 18:07:59 <glx> and 7z too :) 18:09:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:09:16 <Ammler> I prefer the warning than having to different formats just for this matter. 18:09:26 <Ammler> two* 18:09:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BB15.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:42 <blathijs> Ammler: I'll put switching to tbz on my list, though 18:11:56 <Ammler> I asked if we can change to bzip2, but then I drop that. 18:13:43 <TrueBrain> Dear Lloyds TSB Online Customer, 18:13:44 <TrueBrain> We detected irregular activity on your Lloyds Check Card on 21 September, 2009. 18:13:47 <TrueBrain> who has been using my card again? 18:14:02 <Dreamxtreme> me!! HAHA XD 18:14:16 <TrueBrain> (just received that on my openttd.org account) 18:14:29 <Dreamxtreme> O_O 18:14:49 <Dreamxtreme> perhaps a bogus email 18:15:10 <TrueBrain> you think? It might not be that hte link points to a harvesting, wanting me to send more spam? :p 18:15:41 <Dreamxtreme> yea 18:15:51 *** tdev [~tdev@p508EEAC2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:16:28 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17603 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: since now, towns are 'founded' instead of 'built' 18:18:16 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17604 /trunk/src/lang/ (48 files in 2 dirs): -Update (r17603): rename strings in other lang files too 18:20:58 <Terkhen> great :) 18:28:15 <SmatZ> wow, openttd 0.7.2 is finally stable in gentoo :-p 18:28:25 <SmatZ> just almost 6 months... 18:28:53 <SmatZ> since 0.7 release (0.6.3 was stable before) 18:30:04 * Rubidium wonders what stable in Gentoo actually means 18:30:53 <Rubidium> SmatZ: only half of 0.7.2 is stable :( 18:32:00 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17605 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix [FS#3218]: [NewGRF] Crash when defining the same tile in a tile layout twice 18:32:26 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@51.139.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:44 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17606 /trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): -Add: initial support for Haiku; a dedicated server with zlib and libpng compiles and links (for me). Something's fishy with the network so it doesn't actually work (yet) 18:37:17 *** CraKinShOt [~NO@host86-142-35-243.range86-142.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:37:47 <CraKinShOt> good evening. :) 18:40:33 <dihedral> yes? 18:42:22 <Rubidium> blathijs: Ammler is thinking about only releasing .tar.bz2 for opengfx 18:45:53 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@51.139.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:46:22 <blathijs> Ammler: Yeah, I saw that 18:46:35 <blathijs> Not sure if I can upload tbz orig tarballs yet, though 18:47:04 <blathijs> Google didn't want to tell me, nor the policy manual or debian dev reference 18:47:40 <Rubidium> check the src repository 18:48:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:49:31 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:38 <blathijs> Rubidium: It seems it's not supported yet 18:51:53 <blathijs> But it will be soon: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457345 18:52:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:53:53 <Rubidium> is 'soon' before the next stable? :) 18:54:06 <blathijs> It's a release goal, so I'd say yes 18:54:10 <blathijs> Probably sooner :-) 18:54:32 *** Audi [~audigex@78.148.160.176] has joined #openttd 18:54:40 <Rubidium> last message talks about something big needs to finished and then they need to test it for 2-3 months :( 18:54:51 <Rubidium> which was basically in early august 18:55:02 <Rubidium> so it's still 2-3 months out :( 18:57:37 <blathijs> yup.. 19:00:30 *** Audigex [~audigex@89.242.163.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:43 *** Audi is now known as Audigex 19:04:13 *** KenjiE20 is now known as Guest3215 19:04:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.104.151] has joined #openttd 19:08:03 *** Guest3215 [~KenjiE20@92.17.254.93] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:35 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-144-134-197-114.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [] 19:13:02 <Rubidium> Muxy: what's the point of making a wiki copy of the (unstable as how it works from version to version) network protocol? It will only get outdated and annoy people because it's incorrect 19:14:35 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-158-124.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:15:11 <Chruker> You could just make a page with notes on how to read the source for the network specifics 19:16:52 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:21:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:14 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:21:53 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: I'm off] 19:32:45 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbml] 19:40:18 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17607 /trunk/src/command.cpp: -Fix: when command didn't fail in test run and failed in exec run, error message wasn't set. Affects only few commands 19:42:12 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:42:45 *** Mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:47:20 *** Aankhen`` [~hey.squid@122.162.164.221] has quit [Quit: Log this!] 19:51:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host17-232-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 19:55:22 *** nicfer [~Usuario@168.226.104.47] has joined #openttd 19:56:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.167.174] has joined #openttd 19:56:15 <andythenorth> evening 19:56:57 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 19:57:10 <Rubidium> it's evening already? :) 20:00:54 <andythenorth> is it done yet? 20:02:02 <Belugas> it is getting close, in fact... 20:02:12 <Belugas> again one hour and we're in it! 20:02:15 <Muxy> i'm back 20:03:03 <Muxy> Rubidium: what is incorrect ? 20:05:12 <andythenorth> well someone let me know when it's done 20:05:12 <andythenorth> an email would do 20:05:36 <andythenorth> or something 20:05:42 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-160-55.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:26 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Quit: AS A VAGINA ONCE SAID: <yorick> SOMEONE BAN HIM] 20:10:16 *** Dreamxtreme_ [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:11:22 *** Dreamxtreme [~chatzilla@93-97-81-59.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:26 *** Dreamxtreme_ is now known as Dreamxtreme 20:14:11 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590c0eda.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23:10 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17608 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: use CmdFoundTown when founding 'Random town' too 20:23:27 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.167.174] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:25:44 <CraKinShOt> well submitted my first patch. :) 20:26:04 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 20:26:11 <Muxy> where ? 20:26:21 <Ammler> it takes around 1-2 hours to get it to trunk 20:26:51 <CraKinShOt> FS#3225 or http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45208 20:27:06 <guru3> CraKinShOt: congrats 20:27:21 <CraKinShOt> doesn't do anything though... haha. ;) 20:27:25 <CraKinShOt> well not yet 20:27:32 <CraKinShOt> but tested using it 20:27:35 <guru3> i currently have no access to a web browser 20:27:40 <guru3> what should your patch do? 20:27:55 <CraKinShOt> adds on general support for signal extensions 20:28:00 <guru3> sounds neat 20:28:24 <CraKinShOt> so you specify that any signal has a SignalEx object 20:28:26 <guru3> more power to you, patches make the world go 'round 20:29:01 <CraKinShOt> at the moment it only supports creating, removing and basic update routing. 20:29:07 <Sacro> hmmm, looks good 20:29:09 <guru3> (sorry if i sound facetous, it is cool, i'm just dead bored waiting for the kernel to compile) 20:29:29 <Sacro> <3 2.6.31 20:29:46 <guru3> is it out of rc? 20:29:59 <blathijs> Yup, it is 20:30:03 <guru3> sweet 20:30:04 <CraKinShOt> so if any tile is changed from a RAIL_WITH_SIGNAL it'll automatically remove the SignalEx object from the pool 20:30:06 <guru3> i should upgrade my desktop 20:30:28 <Sacro> Yeah, complete with x-fi drivers :D 20:30:39 <guru3> about time on that score 20:30:48 <guru3> ive got my trusty audigy 20:31:38 <guru3> and the kernel has finished, so now i need to go and reboot... bbl 20:32:41 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:33:15 <Muxy> grumpf ^ 20:43:49 <CraKinShOt> was I supposed to set the version to "trunk" for the new patch? 20:47:30 <Muxy> if the patch has been written to the last r 20:48:53 <Sacro> depensd what it'spatched agains 20:48:54 <Sacro> t 20:51:18 <CraKinShOt> the trunk 20:51:41 <CraKinShOt> I just left it as ?version... :( 20:52:11 *** Audigex 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21:55:11 *** Brianett1 is now known as Brianetta 21:55:37 *** Guest3237 [~brian@client-86-27-113-222.bmly.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 22:04:18 <CraKinShOt> planet, I think I might have a crack at using m2 22:04:48 <CraKinShOt> and put in a check in all the railmap functions that concern RAIL_WITH_SIGNALS 22:05:21 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 22:06:28 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 22:09:50 <CraKinShOt> actually thats probably going to be the way to go 22:10:22 <CraKinShOt> at the moment getting the signalexID requires 3 variable lookup's and 3-6 bit manipulations 22:11:04 <CraKinShOt> if it was in m2, it would be much faster lookup 22:13:11 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean storing the pool index in the map? 22:13:17 <nicfer> don't you think that there are too many ottd servers, being most of them too similar? 22:14:00 <nicfer> you in plural... or there is some word for it? 22:14:48 <Eddi|zuHause> "thee", but that is very outdated ;) 22:15:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@89.246.179.184] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:42 <Eddi|zuHause> "thee" is the plural of "thou", which used to be the informal addressing 22:15:48 <Eddi|zuHause> "you" being formal 22:17:09 <Eddi|zuHause> (at least i think so) 22:17:55 <CraKinShOt> Eddi|zuHause: yes, the pool index in all of m2 and moving the existing bits in m2 into the pool item, as planetmaker suggested 22:18:25 <CraKinShOt> for RAIL_WITH_SIGNAL class only ofc 22:18:32 <Eddi|zuHause> CraKinShOt: so you want to make every signal a "pool" signal, not only the special extra data? 22:18:49 <CraKinShOt> no no, you'd have a flag in m6 or m7 22:19:03 <Eddi|zuHause> then what is currently in m2? 22:19:10 <CraKinShOt> if its turned off then m2 is as before 22:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> ah 22:19:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that might make stuff unnecessarily complicated 22:19:33 <CraKinShOt> its its turned on then the old m2 data is now in the pool item 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