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00:00:15 <Rubidium> still no counter reaction on mb for blaming us to spend too much time on NoAI after 0.7.3-RC2 which had more NewGRF related fixes... 00:01:13 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@195-241-124-225.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:01:30 * Rubidium still wonders what gets released first: a new TTDP, a new DBXL or Duke Nukem (I fear it's going to be the last one) 00:02:02 <fjb> The German forum is almost never interesting. 00:02:51 <fjb> I bet on Duke Nukem. 00:03:12 <Rubidium> nah, the noob bashing sometimes is, although most of the time the people who react on noobs don't know the correct answer either 00:03:53 <fjb> There is work on a new German rail set. But mb claimed some of their sprites are looking like his. 00:04:10 <Rubidium> ofcourse they are looking like his... 00:04:31 <fjb> Most people knowing the correct answer get bashed on the German forum. 00:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause> their counter-claim was exactly that. there are only so many realistic-looking pixel combinations :p 00:05:36 <Rubidium> look... that TTD scaled 8 bits per pixel side view of a ICE-TD looks like my side view of a ICE-TD 00:06:11 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it was about steam engines, which could allow for rather significant alterations 00:06:12 <Rubidium> like... drawing an ICE-TD that doesn't look like an ICE-TD seems kinda stupid to me 00:06:21 <fjb> But the is mb. I guess he will fight any other German rail set. 00:07:07 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the easiest way to torped that would be to start an east german rail set, which he claimed to not want to start ;) 00:07:41 <fjb> But he has an east German locomotive in his set. 00:08:07 <Eddi|zuHause> two 00:08:33 <fjb> I tried draving a locomotive some months ago. But I could nor make it look right. So I gave up. 00:08:41 <fjb> Eddi|zuHause: Two? 00:08:53 <fjb> Ah, yes, you are right. 00:08:57 <Eddi|zuHause> the DB BR 232 (ex DR BR 132) and the DB BR 155 (ex DR BR 250) 00:09:09 <fjb> And the 112. 00:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but that was not really a DR engine, it came out after the reunification, afaik 00:09:59 <Eddi|zuHause> based on an east german development 00:10:00 <fjb> It was earlier, but only one prototype. 00:10:09 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177227087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause> also, he is replacing the 112 by the 143 00:11:11 <fjb> The 143 was the series which was developed from the 112 prototype. 00:11:39 <Eddi|zuHause> the 143 is the engine most commonly in use around here 00:12:27 <Eddi|zuHause> but there are plenty of east german engines that he does not have ;) 00:12:54 <fjb> He opted for the the prototypes an overpowered engines in the released set. but he missed some of the most important eniges. 00:13:34 * Rubidium wonders whether my imagination that trains run faster in east Germany than in west Germany is actually true 00:14:12 <Eddi|zuHause> that depends on what facts you imagination is built upon 00:14:42 <fjb> Usually thy ran slower. 00:14:43 <Eddi|zuHause> there is no 350km/h high speed line in east germany 00:15:16 <Rubidium> same train from Berlin to Amsterdam (only travelled from Berlin Spandau till Hengelo though) 00:15:25 *** Morloth [~bram@93-125-129-221.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:15:57 <fjb> When was that? 00:16:19 <Eddi|zuHause> which way does that go? Magdeburg, Braunschweig, Hannover? 00:16:31 <Rubidium> a few weeks before the WM (WC?) in Germany 00:16:43 <fjb> Maybe the eastern German part of the line was new. 00:16:47 <PeterT> I have successfully patched the 'watch' cmd and Bilbo's multiplayer patchpack *celebrates* 00:17:46 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177237090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:07 <Rubidium> basically Stendal, Hannover, Osnabruck 00:18:46 <Rubidium> http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/traininfo.exe/dn/721734/401742/17048/232054/80?ld=212.144&seqnr=4&ident=72.04451144.1254269819&date=30.09.09&station_evaId=8010404&station_type=dep¤tReferrer=tp&rt=1& 00:19:39 <Rubidium> hmm... .exe in the URL 00:19:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:20:03 <fjb> Then the eastern Germen part of the track is newer than the western German part. So the trains may go faster there. 00:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> aha... that's further north than i thought 00:21:27 <Rubidium> must say that buying a ticket at the counter took ages 00:22:07 <Eddi|zuHause> you can buy a ticket on the automat, but that is less likely to get you the optimal price ;) 00:22:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, but it doesn't tell me where the Netherlands starts 00:23:10 <Eddi|zuHause> they ran a few tests, and buying at a 3rd party travel office is likely to get you the cheapest price ;) 00:23:11 <Rubidium> e.g. useful information when you have a free rail travel in the NL pass 00:24:51 <Rubidium> so they told me I only needed a ticket till Bad Bentheim 00:26:01 <Rubidium> so far my train travelling in Germany 00:31:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't say that i ever travelled in that direction 00:38:18 <Rubidium> can't blame you; most of the travellers seem to be students that go Berlin <-> Amsterdam 00:38:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@client-86-0-93-28.leed.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 00:39:04 <Rubidium> esp. monday mornings the train is full of students going on a school trip to Germany 00:39:30 <Rubidium> yes, I took that train a lot, but only within the NL 00:40:07 <Rubidium> *need* sleep :( 00:41:09 <fjb> AOL 00:44:33 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: I'm off] 00:45:33 <Rubidium> what? 00:47:04 <fjb> Short for "me too!". 00:48:17 <fjb> AOL users were known for spamming the usenet and mailing lists with messages only containing the words "me too". 00:53:29 <Eddi|zuHause> I Agree. 00:54:09 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest199 00:54:11 *** DaleStan [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has joined #openttd 00:58:04 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-246-29.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:58:14 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.2.190.211] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 01:00:52 *** Guest199 [~Dale@98.223.108.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:01:49 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 01:02:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-141-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:44 <fjb> Oh, Marianne Faithfull got old. 01:17:56 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 01:23:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A91.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:25:07 <Eddi|zuHause> who was that. 01:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> kdm[2444]: X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly 01:27:11 <fjb> A British singer, started her career in the 60s. She has a remarkable voice. 01:31:08 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db813c0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:10 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 01:35:21 *** Yexo [~Yexo@32-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38:07 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:28 <Pikka> how rare 01:55:10 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has left #openttd [] 01:55:17 <fjb> Eddi's error message? 01:58:23 <Pikka> not necessarily 01:59:41 <fjb> What else is rare? 02:00:53 <Pikka> not much 02:00:57 <Pikka> that's why it's rare 02:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause> so rare things are rare 02:04:27 <Pikka> pretty much! 02:05:49 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 02:07:18 <Eddi|zuHause> so, what does bring you out here at this time 02:09:51 <Pikka> who, me? I'm frequently in here at this time... 02:37:20 * Rubidium is also frequently in here at this time, only not awake :( 03:05:25 *** KenjiE20|LT [~Kenji@host86-171-246-29.range86-171.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:06:50 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c43a:3bf1:6c3e:dee1] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:11:44 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:34:07 *** R0b0t1 [~Enigma@64-136-216-213.dyn.everestkc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14:09 *** Muddy [muddy@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:58:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 05:07:37 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 05:07:52 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:15:12 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 05:28:16 *** nfc [nfc@cable-hvk-fe7ede00-156.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 05:35:17 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0E003.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: http://www.lagerwiki.de - das Wiki rund um's Thema Lager und Logistik] 06:15:49 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:16:54 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 06:17:57 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:33:44 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:35:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D446.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:39:40 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:39:40 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:41:10 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 06:44:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D446.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50:44 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:51:00 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 06:52:48 *** Coldfusionstorm [~IceChat7@0x5da0aa6e.cpe.ge-0-2-0-1101.rgnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 06:52:54 <Coldfusionstorm> :D 06:53:08 <Coldfusionstorm> i just have a quick question for you guys 06:53:40 <Coldfusionstorm> if i start a server from a dedcated box,via SSH, it also closes the game when i close the console. 06:53:48 <Coldfusionstorm> how do i make the server running without? 06:54:18 <Noldo> I'd use screen 06:54:43 <Coldfusionstorm> hmmm 06:55:01 <Coldfusionstorm> so when i close screen it dosnt close the server? 06:56:19 <Noldo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen 06:56:28 <Coldfusionstorm> allready found that 06:56:46 <Coldfusionstorm> but thats only linux so far i can tell 06:56:56 <Coldfusionstorm> and the only linux box here is the dedicated one 06:57:26 <Noldo> it needs to run on the same computer as the openttd server 06:58:01 <Noldo> openttd runs kind of in side it and the you can detach from the screen and it and openttd will keep running 06:58:42 <Coldfusionstorm> hmm 06:58:49 <Coldfusionstorm> if i start the server with -D 06:58:58 <Coldfusionstorm> shouldnt i be able to fork it into background with -F 07:03:01 <Coldfusionstorm> i lOVE package systems 07:03:06 <Coldfusionstorm> that is, when thier have your package 07:06:06 <Coldfusionstorm> wow 07:06:08 <Coldfusionstorm> that was Easy! 07:06:13 <Coldfusionstorm> thanks Noldo! 07:13:46 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-152.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:15:25 <Coldfusionstorm> now, all i need is to load that save game! 07:16:22 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has joined #openttd 07:21:00 <Coldfusionstorm> why is it that my server wont correctly load my save game? 07:23:10 <Coldfusionstorm> g 07:23:51 <Coldfusionstorm> its saved in windows, move to linux via samba, then moved from one dir to the open ttd save dir 07:24:10 <Coldfusionstorm> and ive tried but rename and no renameing 07:24:31 <Coldfusionstorm> *both rename, and not renameing 07:31:08 *** kannerke [~pvandenb@83.101.79.243] has joined #openttd 07:32:26 <Coldfusionstorm> oh well, it seems that the grf file has changed.... 07:32:26 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:32:50 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 07:34:28 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:41:12 *** Zorni [~zorn@e177227087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:43:30 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb765.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 08:07:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:19:08 *** dfox [~dfox@r11jn246.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 08:21:29 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 08:29:53 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 08:33:56 *** George3 [~George@212.113.107.216] has joined #openttd 08:34:56 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 08:34:56 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:38 *** George [~George@212.113.107.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:45:29 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:54:01 <Coldfusionstorm> oh, Thanks for the help agien! 08:54:02 <Coldfusionstorm> :D 08:56:49 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:52 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 09:00:41 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb765.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:24 <Coldfusionstorm> hmm 09:06:36 <Coldfusionstorm> can i just use a grf from windows and unpack it to linux? 09:21:23 <dihedral> ... 09:21:28 <dihedral> for crying out loud.... 09:21:32 <dihedral> why do you not just TRY IT! 09:21:36 <Coldfusionstorm> i DI! 09:21:38 <Coldfusionstorm> *DID! 09:21:41 <Coldfusionstorm> and it didnt work! 09:21:47 <dihedral> then you did something wrong! 09:21:49 <dihedral> and btw 09:21:54 <dihedral> READ THE FUCKING README FILE! 09:21:56 * TrueBrain sprankles some random happiness around :) 09:22:26 <Doorslammer> Someone reading the Readme file? 09:22:27 <Doorslammer> How absurd :P 09:22:29 * Coldfusionstorm grabs some of TrueBrain's sparklesn and kick dihedral, in the face :D 09:22:35 <TrueBrain> Coldfusionstorm: don't get rude 09:22:38 <Coldfusionstorm> yes indeed :D 09:22:40 <Coldfusionstorm> rude? 09:22:45 <Coldfusionstorm> yelling at me isnt rude? 09:22:50 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, you dont want to go there 09:23:01 <TrueBrain> you yelled too, no need to go kicking people in the face :) Lets keep things happy ;) 09:23:17 <Coldfusionstorm> hrm. 09:23:21 <dihedral> gnah 09:23:27 <dihedral> my word 09:23:29 <TrueBrain> Coldfusionstorm: that said: grfs work on any system; they don't depend on the OS :) Only on your DOS/Windows base-grf :) 09:23:49 <dihedral> and they only work if you put them in the right place 09:23:58 <dihedral> and where is that? it's mentioned in your README file! 09:24:01 <Coldfusionstorm> in content_download/data 09:24:08 <TrueBrain> or ~/.openttd/data, for linux 09:24:17 <Coldfusionstorm> yes. 09:24:17 <dihedral> lovely! 09:24:19 <dihedral> too great 09:24:27 * TrueBrain hugs dihedral and makes him happy again 09:24:34 <dihedral> TrueBrain, even that depends on your config file! 09:25:00 <TrueBrain> $dihedral->config->SetState(STATE_HAPPY) :p :p :) :) 09:25:00 <dihedral> i.e. starting openttd with -c openttd.cfg will NOT make it look for your data in ~/.openttd/data 09:25:13 <Coldfusionstorm> -D ? 09:25:14 <TrueBrain> no? Stupid :) 09:25:45 <dihedral> i am Abstract :-P 09:26:37 <TrueBrain> damn, I need to cmopile a new OpenTTD to see if you are right dihedral :p 09:27:09 <dihedral> TrueBrain, i am 09:27:09 <TrueBrain> (libicu is newer than the binary :p) 09:27:20 <dihedral> and the funny thing is, that -c is not handled the way one would expect 09:27:39 <dihedral> say you are in ~ 09:27:46 <dihedral> and openttd is in ~/games/openttd/ 09:28:15 <dihedral> then running ~/games/openttd/openttd -c .openttd/openttd.cfg will NOT do what you expect it to do 09:28:36 <dihedral> it will try to load ~/games/openttd/.openttd/openttd.cfg 09:28:43 <dihedral> sucks if you ask me! 09:28:56 <TrueBrain> dihedral: clean SVN checkout; my base-grf is in ~/.openttd. I start: ./openttd -c test.cfg. It starts. 09:29:02 *** ElDios [~ElDios@93-35-49-25.ip53.fastwebnet.it] has joined #openttd 09:29:20 <TrueBrain> clearly, it does look in ~/.openttd/data in that case too (sorry) 09:29:30 <ElDios> Hello everyone 09:30:07 <ElDios> do you know of a free strategic guide for OpenTTD? 09:30:24 <dihedral> yes, will cost you though :-D 09:30:55 <ElDios> let's say what to build first, what goes next, ecc.. which is not a tutotial step-by-step 09:31:31 <dihedral> have a look through the forums, and look at openttdcoop.org 09:31:39 <dihedral> oh - and perhaps the wiki? 09:32:03 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:32:03 <Doorslammer> Trial and error is more fun 09:32:12 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:12 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has left #openttd [] 09:32:34 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has joined #openttd 09:32:42 <dihedral> a join spammer? 09:33:23 <pyth> no, accidental window closure in unfamiliar irc client :) 09:33:37 *** hickop [~hickop@AGrenoble-257-1-96-32.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:33:46 <TrueBrain> dihedral: I just double checked (code-wise), ~/.openttd is always searched 09:33:53 <TrueBrain> (well, PERSONAL_DIR is) 09:34:12 <dihedral> for all files? 09:34:28 <dihedral> it still looks for the config the way i told you 09:34:33 <dihedral> when you specify the -c flag 09:34:37 <TrueBrain> that might be; but we talked about grf files here 09:34:42 <ElDios> thanks a lot dihedral 09:35:02 <dihedral> it does not look relatively from your current pwd, but from the location of the bin 09:35:09 <dihedral> which is totally confusing 09:35:22 <TrueBrain> that is a whole other subject, and was unrelated to the question Coldfusionstorm was asking 09:35:30 <Coldfusionstorm> i was just thinking the same 09:36:15 <Coldfusionstorm> i have placed them in the data folder, under content_download. 09:36:28 <Coldfusionstorm> and even tried changeing the path in the newgrf setting in the config file 09:36:28 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:35 <Coldfusionstorm> i also unpacked it 09:36:35 <TrueBrain> dihedral: the config code is weird indeed 09:36:37 <Coldfusionstorm> just in case 09:37:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 09:37:28 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, then start openttd with -d 9 and look for your grf's in that output ^^ 09:37:34 <dihedral> see what folders it searches 09:37:42 <dihedral> check file permission 09:37:53 <dihedral> check you are doing the right thing :-P 09:38:07 <TrueBrain> dihedral: the problem is some code at a given point changes the dir to where the executable is, and the '_personal_dir' (the dir with the configure in this case, to add to the confusion of names) is relative from there, instead of from the original working dir 09:39:03 <dihedral> store the current pwd in another var :-P 09:39:26 <TrueBrain> add '_searchpaths[SP_WORKING_DIR]' before the _personal_dir in case of a _config_file I say :p 09:40:53 <Coldfusionstorm> hmm, it says it looks for tar's anf finds noen 09:41:06 <Coldfusionstorm> since newgrf's is tars i would assume it was those 09:41:09 <TrueBrain> dihedral: http://devs.openttd.org/~truebrain/temp.patch <- that should make you happy :p 09:42:46 <Coldfusionstorm> it just says scanning for tars 09:43:02 <Coldfusionstorm> hrm. 09:43:08 <Coldfusionstorm> and after i just loads 09:43:25 <dihedral> now tell me, your grf 09:43:30 <dihedral> is that a *.tar or a *.grf 09:43:59 <TrueBrain> there dihedral: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3247, that should make you happy, not? :) 09:44:08 <Coldfusionstorm> hmm, it is a tar.bz2, 09:44:12 <Coldfusionstorm> but i also unpacked it 09:44:17 <Coldfusionstorm> so its alose a folder 09:44:25 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD only supports .tar and unpacked :p 09:44:25 * dihedral HUGS TrueBrain 09:44:27 <Coldfusionstorm> name.0.4 09:44:31 <Coldfusionstorm> ah 09:44:43 <TrueBrain> and use BaNaNaS (content service) 09:44:45 <TrueBrain> avoids all problems :) 09:44:57 <dihedral> or extract, and put the *.grf in the normal data folder 09:45:04 <dihedral> NOT the downloadthingydatafolder 09:45:24 <Coldfusionstorm> heh,. 09:45:27 <Coldfusionstorm> Normal data folder 09:45:28 <Coldfusionstorm> i have 09:45:29 <Coldfusionstorm> like 09:45:35 <Coldfusionstorm> 1000 data folderes.... -.-' 09:45:42 <Coldfusionstorm> tbh, i have NO clue wich is the working dir 09:46:03 <TrueBrain> Coldfusionstorm: as I said earlier: ~/.openttd/data 09:46:05 * Rubidium wonders why those 'issues' with e.g. config files only come up after 2 major stable releases and such 09:46:05 <Coldfusionstorm> i also have a dir in /usr/games/ 09:46:14 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: because nobody uses them? :P 09:46:19 <Coldfusionstorm> XD 09:46:24 <TrueBrain> or sane people only use ./openttd -c test.cfg ;) :p 09:46:44 <dihedral> Rubidium, i have mentioned that issue many times! many many times 09:46:48 <dihedral> as soon as i noticed it 09:47:23 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, now read your README file again 09:47:34 <dihedral> then you should know which folder it is! 09:48:01 <Coldfusionstorm> i did. 09:48:07 <Coldfusionstorm> it only confused me -.- 09:48:16 <dihedral> see the word at the end ... AGAIN 09:48:16 <Rubidium> uhm... dihedral I now that you tell me about the many many bug tracker entries over a long time that have been ignored 09:48:32 <dihedral> ? 09:48:38 <dihedral> i mentioned the config thing many times 09:48:46 <TrueBrain> s/now/know/ 09:48:58 <dihedral> TrueBrain, dont do what you yourself hate 09:49:07 <Rubidium> oh... my english is very sucky 09:49:11 <TrueBrain> no, I had a hard time figuring out what Rubidium tried to say 09:49:16 <Coldfusionstorm> ARGH! 09:49:17 <Coldfusionstorm> FFS! 09:49:21 <Coldfusionstorm> now i get it 09:49:22 <Coldfusionstorm> i think 09:49:25 <TrueBrain> Coldfusionstorm: see, the yelling again :) 09:49:40 <Rubidium> dihedral: what are the bug tracker entries that tell about your config file problem? 09:49:42 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, you are shouting out loud: 'ignore me, ignore me' :-P 09:50:01 <TrueBrain> #3247 ;) :p :P 09:50:05 <Rubidium> except the one TB just made 09:50:10 <TrueBrain> hihi :) 09:50:14 <dihedral> i recall conversations where i was told that it was not a bug, and that people dont care 09:50:16 <Rubidium> and many many implies at least 3 09:50:17 * Coldfusionstorm is fine with that for now, hel tell back when he tried the other thing. 09:50:22 <dihedral> you think i then feel like making a bug report? 09:50:33 <Coldfusionstorm> ofc not 09:50:42 <TrueBrain> ofc? 09:50:47 <TrueBrain> kfc I know :) 09:51:16 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: next time don't link to your 'this is the last patch I made' URL in bug reports; they tend to change 09:51:25 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: hahaha :) 09:52:23 <TrueBrain> I forget that .. a lot :p 09:52:57 <Rubidium> still the patch doesn't solve the problem :( 09:53:04 <TrueBrain> here it does 09:53:20 <Rubidium> at least not when you say bin/opentd -c /tmp/openttd.cfg 09:53:27 <TrueBrain> haha, no :p 09:53:30 <dihedral> hehe 09:53:39 <TrueBrain> so, a check for [0] == '/' needs to be added ;) 09:53:42 <Rubidium> or when you say bin/opentd -c C:\tmp\openttd.cfg 09:53:52 <TrueBrain> and we just disable it for Windows :p 09:54:35 <TrueBrain> so a real solution would be to change the working dir to the SP_WORKING_DIR, change the dir to the _config_file, do a getcwd, and change the dir back 09:55:05 <dihedral> \o/ 09:55:08 <dihedral> yay!!! 09:55:11 <dihedral> :-P 09:56:43 *** ElDios [~ElDios@93-35-49-25.ip53.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: http://www.amicofigo.org/IMGS/resistenza_sempre.jpg] 10:04:09 <Coldfusionstorm> so in linux WHERE do i place the newGRf's /root/.openTTD/data? 10:04:21 <Coldfusionstorm> and i dont CARE about running it as root. 10:04:26 <Coldfusionstorm> be silent about that 10:04:28 <TrueBrain> if you start Linux as root user, you should reconsider using root :p 10:04:31 <TrueBrain> too late :) 10:04:34 <TrueBrain> last root = linux 10:04:35 <Coldfusionstorm> arh. 10:04:50 <Xaroth> heh 10:04:59 <Coldfusionstorm> but, still, where should i place them? 10:05:00 <TrueBrain> it is like telling any sane driver, while driving through a red light: don't mind me driving through a red light 10:05:18 <Coldfusionstorm> okay, im a cyber crimal now. 10:05:32 <Coldfusionstorm> but why wont the damn grf dont work? 10:05:36 <Coldfusionstorm> ive changed names 10:05:40 <Coldfusionstorm> ive changed dir's 10:05:50 <Coldfusionstorm> i dont know what else to do 10:06:55 <Rubidium> for what it is worth: linux is case sensitive with filenames 10:07:08 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177227087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:07:13 <Rubidium> so if readme.txt says .openttd that means that .openTTD does not work 10:07:19 <Coldfusionstorm> well, im out of idias so il check it 10:07:30 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:58 <Coldfusionstorm> -.-' 10:08:08 <Coldfusionstorm> well, there is SOME of the problem anyways 10:08:09 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 10:08:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 10:08:12 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 10:08:23 <TrueBrain> PEBKAC, I say 10:13:40 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/fs3247.diff <- I really hope that doesn't break stuff 10:13:59 <Coldfusionstorm> :O 10:14:02 <Coldfusionstorm> its..... 10:14:04 <Coldfusionstorm> stuff? 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10:25:32 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 10:25:45 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ad1ee01.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 10:26:44 <TrueBrain> Let me try to tell you one more time. After that, I unleach dihedral: in ~/.openttd/data 10:26:52 *** Ammler is now known as Guest245 10:27:02 <Coldfusionstorm> okay, thanks 10:27:31 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 10:27:55 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, read that fucking file... it's called README!!! 10:28:04 <dihedral> if it gives a folder name..... cd <foldername> 10:28:07 <dihedral> just TRY IT 10:28:22 <Coldfusionstorm> dihedral, ive allready done that, serveral times! 10:28:48 <Coldfusionstorm> oh, and did i tell you that the Grf allready WAS in that folder! 10:28:55 <Coldfusionstorm> where it CANT find it! 10:29:12 <dihedral> oh - and did you mention that you have no clue of what you are doing? 10:29:14 <dihedral> where things go 10:29:19 <dihedral> and that the readme only confuses you? 10:29:25 <dihedral> and did you mention you are running it as root? 10:29:30 <Coldfusionstorm> so? 10:29:41 <dihedral> you have no fucking idea of what you are doing! 10:29:42 * Rubidium thinks he should just watch some television of so. This is going nowhere 10:29:47 <dihedral> oh - i must run a dedicated server 10:29:50 * TrueBrain agrees with Rubidium 10:29:57 <dihedral> ladida 10:30:03 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D3C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:15 * Doorslammer whacks cold with the golf putter 10:30:18 * dihedral shoves /dev/urandom up Coldfusionstorm rear end 10:30:25 <Coldfusionstorm> great, you scared the only people off who atually was helpfull! 10:30:26 <Doorslammer> You really dont want to know where thats just been either 10:31:07 <dihedral> hey - and if you feel like getting flamed, post it on the forums! 10:31:33 * Doorslammer fetches lighter and some unleaded 10:31:41 <Doorslammer> Ready and waiting 10:31:59 <TrueBrain> Coldfusionstorm: maybe you have to consider you are asking the wrong questions. GRFs should go in ~/.openttd/data. No question about that. So if that doesn't work, you can keep on aksing that question, but the answer stays the same. Nothing will change that. 10:32:53 <Coldfusionstorm> TrueBrain, it dosnt add to the pressur that ive been work for 2 hours straigt, on something that "should" be simple, and the only thing i get is dihedral shit 10:32:56 <TrueBrain> by the fact you already showed us you were trying ~/.OpenTTD, tells us you have no sufficient knowledge about Linux, and you are not following what we/README tells you. So that leaves us nowhere to help you with. 10:33:30 <dihedral> Coldfusionstorm, where is openttd? 10:33:36 <dihedral> and with what command are you starting it? 10:33:37 <Doorslammer> People with no brains whatsoever should use Windows... 10:33:38 <Doorslammer> ... 10:33:40 <Doorslammer> Damn 10:33:49 <TrueBrain> his 'shit' is the result of 10 people like you coming here every week asking the things that are documented. So please, read the README, follow what is written there (and not your own interpertation of it). It really works, as we have N (where N is big) users using it every day :) 10:34:27 <Coldfusionstorm> i start openTTD from /usr/games/.openTTD -D 10:34:33 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:36 <TrueBrain> it is like taping something with your VCR. You can randomly try pressing buttons, or you can just try doing exactly what the manual tells you :) 10:34:37 <dihedral> now that is your problem 10:34:53 <dihedral> there IS no .openTTD in /usr/games 10:34:58 <TrueBrain> his binary is called .openTTD? Cool :) 10:35:19 <TrueBrain> I should write K 10:35:29 * Yexo sits back and enjoys the show 10:35:39 <TrueBrain> I should write K's Choice, to alter their song 'Somethings wrong': # If your OpenTTD binary is called .openTTD, something is wrong 10:35:43 <Coldfusionstorm> Savegames,Ai and so forth is in /root/.openTTD 10:35:44 <dihedral> if it does exist, uninstall what you installed, and get something from the openttd.org webstie 10:35:46 <TrueBrain> Yexo: did you bring popcorn? :) 10:35:46 <Doorslammer> Hot dogs! Git yer hot dogs here! 10:36:00 <dihedral> wrong again Coldfusionstorm, the folder is NOT called /root/.openTTD 10:36:04 <Yexo> nah, some tosties for lunch :p 10:36:11 <Coldfusionstorm> *openttd 10:36:15 <dihedral> that is a difference 10:36:20 <TrueBrain> Yexo: OEH! Good idea :) 10:36:41 <dihedral> what is the first line of output when you run /usr/games/openttd -h 10:36:54 <TrueBrain> dihedral: his binary is .openTTD!! :p 10:37:10 * dihedral wants http://www.der-schweighofer.at/artikel/38398/bk_ariane_avio_2920_mm_mantua 10:37:29 <TrueBrain> nice 10:38:08 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has joined #openttd 10:38:42 * TrueBrain wants http://www.duijvestein-wintersport.nl/21-Snowboard_Burton_Custom_X.html?product_id=36604&sell=yes 10:38:55 <dihedral> hehe 10:39:05 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 10:39:19 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:05 <dihedral> so Coldfusionstorm, what version of openttd is it 10:40:16 <dihedral> (run /usr/games/openttd -h and copy the first line of output) 10:40:32 <Coldfusionstorm> dihedral, /usr/games/openttd -h gives this:OpenTTD 0.7.2 10:40:39 <dihedral> very good, thank you 10:40:49 <TrueBrain> [12:34] <Coldfusionstorm> i start openTTD from /usr/games/.openTTD -D <- so this is complete bull? 10:41:06 <TrueBrain> if you are going to tell us what you do, make sure it is exactly that what you do, not something that looks like it 10:41:26 <dihedral> now, tell me, did you sudo to root, or did you login as root directly? 10:41:37 <Coldfusionstorm> login as root 10:41:43 <Coldfusionstorm> via putty/screen 10:41:47 <dihedral> thank you 10:42:01 <dihedral> cd to ~/.openttd 10:42:17 <dihedral> (you can simply enter 'cd ~/.openttd') 10:42:29 <Coldfusionstorm> you mean root or ~ ? 10:42:33 <dihedral> ~ 10:42:37 <TrueBrain> he says ~, doesn't he? 10:42:46 <Coldfusionstorm> i just wanted to be sure. 10:42:47 <TrueBrain> ( dihedral, where did we switch roles? :p) 10:43:01 <dihedral> somewhere between the good and the bad cop :-P 10:43:01 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:04 <Coldfusionstorm> there 10:43:09 <dihedral> yuck - i hate being sandwhiched 10:43:14 <dihedral> run ls 10:43:18 <Coldfusionstorm> i ran it 10:43:24 <Coldfusionstorm> cd ~/.openttd 10:43:24 <dihedral> you see openttd.cfg there? 10:43:29 <Coldfusionstorm> yes 10:43:35 <dihedral> run cd data 10:43:44 <Coldfusionstorm> done it 10:43:45 <dihedral> ls 10:43:51 <dihedral> see a sample.cat there? 10:43:57 <Coldfusionstorm> nope 10:44:10 <dihedral> run touch sample.cat 10:44:30 <dihedral> ls 10:44:36 <dihedral> you should now have a sample.cat file 10:44:54 <dihedral> do you see a bunch of trg<something> files? 10:45:11 <TrueBrain> dihedral: he most likely has them in some shared dir or where ever that is 10:45:34 <dihedral> fuck 10:45:36 <dihedral> :-) 10:45:41 <Coldfusionstorm> (the server has been running as a sidenote). and and i do have a sample.cat now. 10:45:47 <Coldfusionstorm> *and i do 10:45:55 <dihedral> ah :-) 10:46:01 <dihedral> now that does show a different light 10:46:08 <dihedral> the server was running before ^^ 10:46:15 <Coldfusionstorm> yes, the server IS running 10:46:21 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:46:27 <dihedral> cd / 10:46:29 <dihedral> updatedb 10:46:39 <Coldfusionstorm> but it wont accept the newgrf file it just cant find it 10:46:53 <Coldfusionstorm> there cd / 10:47:02 <dihedral> updatedb will take some time 10:47:07 <Coldfusionstorm> Ok. 10:47:08 <Yexo> Coldfusionstorm: how do you determine it won't find a newgrf? 10:47:29 <Coldfusionstorm> it dosnt require said newgrf when i try to join the server. 10:47:30 <dihedral> Yexo, beside the point.... it's calm right now ^^ 10:47:37 <Coldfusionstorm> also console report its missing. 10:47:53 <Yexo> but did you add the newgrf to you config file? 10:47:59 <TrueBrain> so now I really wonder where you put the grf ... 10:47:59 <Coldfusionstorm> yes 10:48:14 <Yexo> and you added the complete path (not only filename) of the newgrf there? 10:48:29 <dihedral> Yexo, we dont even know what the complete path would be 10:48:32 <dihedral> as of which point 10:48:47 <dihedral> because you add a relative path from the data folder it's using 10:48:54 <dihedral> which is ... :-) 10:48:56 <Yexo> dihedral: maybe, I'm jus ttrying to get the problem straight 10:49:00 <Coldfusionstorm> not, ive copy'ed the config from windows, wich the path was allready there 10:49:08 <TrueBrain> LOL! 10:49:15 * dihedral claps his hands 10:49:18 <Yexo> well there is your problem 10:49:22 <dihedral> Yexo, you spoil sport 10:49:37 <dihedral> hehe 10:49:42 <Coldfusionstorm> soo? 10:49:44 <Yexo> ;) 10:49:50 * dihedral wonders if there is a file called /usr/games/openttd.cfg 10:49:50 <dihedral> :-D 10:50:03 *** zachanima [~zach@50A2FFAA.flatrate.dk] has joined #openttd 10:50:03 <Coldfusionstorm> 2 sec 10:50:07 <Coldfusionstorm> there is 10:50:09 <dihedral> :-D 10:50:10 <Coldfusionstorm> ive modifyed it 10:50:15 <dihedral> hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihi 10:50:21 <Coldfusionstorm> but lemme find the "correct" file 10:50:23 <Yexo> Coldfusionstorm: if a grf is in ~/.openttd/data/somedir/test.grf then add somedir/test.grf to you config file 10:50:42 <dihedral> and not test.tar or test.tar.bz 10:50:46 <TrueBrain> window.screenX = 1024 / 2; <- lovely ... the screen is at pos 0 ... you got to love javascript :( 10:51:04 <dihedral> :-D 10:51:30 <Coldfusionstorm> hmm, okay, so il need a full filepath then 10:51:31 <MyCatVerbs> TrueBrain: I do. :) 10:52:13 <dihedral> dum di dum 10:52:15 <Coldfusionstorm> and i will do that from /root/.openttd 10:52:19 <TrueBrain> window.screenX = 1000; alert(window.screenX) -> '0' 10:52:38 <dihedral> is there a /usr/games/data folder? 10:53:20 <Coldfusionstorm> yes 10:53:23 <Coldfusionstorm> its empty tho 10:53:37 <Coldfusionstorm> execpt for the one file ive put there 10:53:42 <Coldfusionstorm> wich is the grf file 10:53:56 <Coldfusionstorm> (since ive tried placeing it in serveral places) 10:54:06 * dihedral smiles from one ear to another 10:54:20 <Coldfusionstorm> there is also data files ;D 10:54:27 <Coldfusionstorm> not in the data folder 10:54:28 <Coldfusionstorm> tho 10:54:31 <Coldfusionstorm> in the subfolder 10:54:35 <Coldfusionstorm> or 10:54:47 <Coldfusionstorm> in /usr/games 10:55:02 <dihedral> read what i wrote 10:55:22 <dihedral> yikes.... 10:55:28 <dihedral> yes, you are a good server admin 10:55:44 <TrueBrain> huh? If I set the X only, it works. if I set the Y, it makes the X 0 .... 10:55:47 <TrueBrain> really .. what is going on :s 10:55:48 <Coldfusionstorm> ahh, sarcasm, is the best. 10:56:23 <dihedral> yep :-) 10:56:26 <dihedral> lunch time 10:56:29 <dihedral> \o/ 10:56:36 <TrueBrain> enjoy 10:56:48 <Coldfusionstorm> have a good lunch 10:56:53 <Coldfusionstorm> il try the full filepath 11:05:53 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.55.43] has joined #openttd 11:06:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0AA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07:08 <TrueBrain> really .. the last screen[XY] I set works, and the other is set to 0 ..... 11:07:10 <TrueBrain> something is WRONG 11:07:47 <Coldfusionstorm> ah, crap, now dihedral, made my move my sample.cat 11:08:21 <Coldfusionstorm> lol 11:08:32 <Coldfusionstorm> it warns me that sample.cat is coruppted 11:08:35 <Coldfusionstorm> and loads... 11:08:36 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B0C5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:08:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:20:58 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:10 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:26:02 <kannerke> hello all 11:27:04 <kannerke> does someone know if there is a project going on that collects all financial data/statistics of the game? 11:27:18 <kannerke> e.g. save the yearly financial report to a file 11:28:45 *** ecke [~ecke@pc153-225.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 11:30:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i have good news! i found the piece that dropped to the ground yesterday 11:35:29 <TrueBrain> your brains? 11:36:52 *** th1ngwath [~thingie@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 11:41:35 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEC19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:53 *** fjb_ is now known as fjb 11:42:58 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:42:58 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:43:12 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i've given up on those years ago :p 11:44:19 *** thingwath [~thingie@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:45:28 *** th1ngwath [~thingie@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:50 *** crakinshot [938f4919@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:49:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c999:e38c:befe:c1cf] has joined #openttd 11:49:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:55:38 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 11:55:38 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01:10 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1ac6c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:34 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9F10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:06:38 *** Coldfusionstorm [~IceChat7@0x5da0aa6e.cpe.ge-0-2-0-1101.rgnqu1.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you] 12:09:29 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.239.110] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:45 *** Guest245 is now known as Ammler 12:24:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:29:30 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.231.167] has joined #openttd 12:31:32 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: 5 ] 12:32:15 *** PhoenixII [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:36 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 12:34:36 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest257 12:34:38 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:38:15 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:39:44 *** Guest257 [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:44:33 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aor212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 12:46:24 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:46:51 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 12:51:54 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 12:52:47 *** snorre [~snorre@c832BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:02:48 *** Zorn [~zorn@e177227087.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:48 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@55.144.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:18 <Belugas> hello 13:04:52 <crakinshot> hi 13:05:12 *** snorre_ is now known as snorre 13:05:46 <Belugas> kannerke, as far as i know no one works on such a project, mainly because no one is interested in such a feature. 13:06:17 <Belugas> hello crakinshot 13:08:50 *** ecke [~ecke@pc153-12.upce.cz] has joined #openttd 13:08:56 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@55.144.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 13:10:26 <kannerke> I'd like to implement it myself, but I'm not familiar with the code yet 13:11:27 <Belugas> it should be relatively easy to do, i think. all depending of the granularity of the data you seek to coolect 13:12:41 <kannerke> it may be very fine: cost + income / vehicle 13:13:18 <kannerke> with yearly statistics, bottlenecks can be detected based on these data 13:13:40 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 13:13:49 <kannerke> or you can also check if the improvements you made have some effect 13:13:55 <DJNekkid> hi guys ... anyone with gcc preprocessor knowledge here? 13:14:28 *** ecke [~ecke@pc153-12.upce.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 13:14:29 <Rubidium> possibly 13:14:42 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@55.144.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:50 <DJNekkid> i've done a #define STR_STUFF some-word... 13:14:52 <fonsinchen> I still have the smallmap zooming patches here and I'm wondering if you are still interested in them. The last time we were discussing this some things were quite controversial among the devs - especially the question if the smallmap zooming should use the same zoom levels as the main viewport. If there is some agreement now I can fix whatever is wrong. But I need to know. 13:15:15 <DJNekkid> when i then wants to call STR_STUFF it dont gets processed ... and that, have i discovered, is because it is withing ""'s 13:15:34 <DJNekkid> are there any way to solve it? 13:15:47 <DJNekkid> i've tried \"STR_STUFF" and \"STR_STUFF\" 13:16:40 <Rubidium> don't put it in quotes; if it's in quotes it's seen as a string instead of an identifier and preprocessing only touches identifiers 13:17:13 <Rubidium> although the real question is to what extent you want stuff to be split up in words 13:17:25 <Rubidium> splitting it too much might cause problems when translating it 13:17:42 <DJNekkid> not too much in this case, as its more a list type ... 13:17:45 <Rubidium> anyhow, #define STR_STUFF "word" would be better 13:17:58 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has joined #openttd 13:18:03 <Phazorx> hola 13:18:11 <Rubidium> then you can so "string" STR_STUFF "more string" instead of "stringSTR_STUFFmore string" 13:18:24 <Rubidium> or "string " STR_STUFF " more string" instead of "string STR_STUFF more string" 13:18:35 <DJNekkid> hold on ... 13:18:45 <Phazorx> can't find on wiki explanations between gui.autosave numbers in cfg file 13:19:08 <Phazorx> can anyone enlighten me what they are supposed to be (and perhaps it is a good idea to put it on wiki as well?) 13:19:10 <DJNekkid> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/2cctrainset/repository/entry/sprites/nfo/strings/7F_english.pnfo 13:20:33 <Rubidium> Phazorx: that is a good question 13:20:44 <Rubidium> oh, never mind :) 13:20:47 <Rubidium> I'm stupid 13:21:00 * DJNekkid slaps Rubidium around a bit with a large trout 13:21:01 <DJNekkid> :p 13:21:17 <Rubidium> "off|monthly|quarterly|half year|yearly" <- that's the valid values for it, guess that should make clear how it's used 13:21:37 <Phazorx> Rubidium: wasnt it a number before? 13:21:41 <Phazorx> or i am totally lost 13:23:15 <Phazorx> thanks anyway... 13:23:26 <Rubidium> Phazorx: maybe it was a number before 0.2.0 13:23:29 <dihedral> Phazorx, \o/ 13:23:31 <dihedral> nice to see you 13:23:39 <Phazorx> dihedral: heya :) 13:23:50 <Phazorx> i am appearing here once in a blue moon btw :) 13:24:03 <dihedral> no kidding! 13:24:11 <dihedral> seriously? 13:24:14 <dihedral> have not noticed 13:24:22 <Phazorx> well moon isnt blue every day 13:24:23 <dihedral> [/sarcasm] 13:24:30 <dihedral> ^ reminds you of something, TrueBrain ? 13:24:35 <Phazorx> how ya doing? 13:24:42 <dihedral> doing alright thank you :-) 13:24:46 <dihedral> having fun doing nothing 13:24:47 <dihedral> :-D 13:24:49 <dihedral> at work :-D 13:24:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: isn't it more likely that it was a number before all the settings-rework-thingies? (e.g. new config file format, splitting in categories) 13:25:00 <Eddi|zuHause> that was before 0.6 afaik 13:25:03 <dihedral> how are yourself Phazorx 13:25:13 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause: i'd say that is cloer to truth than 0.2 13:25:25 <Phazorx> dihedral: well about samas you, scratch the work part :) 13:25:30 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause, from 0.2: settings.c: {"autosave", SDT_UINT8 | SDT_ONEOFMANY, (void*)1, (void*)offsetof(GameOptions, autosave), "off|monthly|quarterly|half year|yearly" }, 13:25:30 <Phazorx> which is abou to change soon 13:25:52 <Phazorx> SDT_UINT8 ? 13:26:01 <Rubidium> which makes it likely that it used strings back then in the config file 13:26:04 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:18 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a95de.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:26:19 *** green-devil [Lisby@d40a95de.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:26:24 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, but i do remember that the daily/weekly autosave patch shifted all the settings, so there must be some number involved 13:26:53 <Phazorx> Rubidium: i'm not impliing i didnt take strings... but i thought i saw numbers there as well before 13:28:17 <Rubidium> yes, those strings are internally converted to numbers 13:28:18 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:24 <Rubidium> but those numbers aren't stored in the savegame 13:29:14 <Phazorx> obviously... makes little sense to store it in .sav 13:29:58 <Rubidium> hmm, meant to say config file (as it's saved as string there), but yes it's not stored in the savegame either 13:30:04 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, it did confuse the default settings all the time, when i switched between builds with or without that patch 13:30:34 <Phazorx> btw... do ANY settings on client that loads game created on another client with different settings matter, aside of what is involved in gui/MP part? 13:31:26 <Phazorx> okay... i took you guys totally offtopic with that useless questions about autosave.. sorry about that... it been strings and is string and i am just going nuts... slowly so far, which is the good part 13:31:30 <Eddi|zuHause> Phazorx: each setting has a flag that says whether it should be stored in the savegame 13:31:55 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause: can you direct me to the current list then? 13:32:10 <Eddi|zuHause> src/table/settings.h? 13:32:13 <Phazorx> heh 13:32:18 <Phazorx> thanks :) 13:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly an educated guess ;) 13:32:37 <Phazorx> figured that :) 13:33:13 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17667 /trunk/src/network/network.cpp: -Fix [FS#3245]: autopause tried to (un)pause the server every tick when the pause command only gets processed once every frame_freq ticks. So it would spam the console with duplicate attempts. 13:36:15 *** Phoenix_the_II [ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 13:37:10 <dihedral> nice one Rubidium 13:40:18 <Xaroth> :o 13:40:34 <Xaroth> that explains why the ottdc publicserver spams the channel like hell :P 13:42:09 <dihedral> .... 13:42:12 <dihedral> aye 13:42:23 <dihedral> well - it's their own fault for setting frame_freq = 4 :-P 13:43:05 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has left #openttd [] 13:43:34 * Rubidium wonders when the bug reports that it reacts slowly on frame_freq = 74; it takes sometimes like 2 seconds before it (un)pauses the server 13:45:02 <dihedral> hehe 13:45:26 <dihedral> i dont know why people think it's clever to set a high frame_freq 13:45:29 * Rubidium still isn't happy about the fix for FS#3247; it will make directories and the like in the place where the config file is whereas it hasn't been doing that for long 13:45:29 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:45:51 <dihedral> unless of course it's a server hosted somewhere say in jp and all the players are from the rest for the world :-P 13:46:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:46:27 <Rubidium> it's only to add (some) fairness for people with higher pings 13:46:33 <Eddi|zuHause> in china, where all the packets first have to go through the filtering department :p 13:46:42 <dihedral> :-D 13:46:56 <dihedral> hehe - i bet they have people doing the live filtering :-D 13:47:58 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@port-92-201-116-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:48:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:25 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:56:32 <Xaroth> dihedral: great way to fight unemployment rate :P 13:56:40 <Xaroth> can't find job? work as a filter! 13:59:39 *** Timmaexx [~chatzilla@port-92-201-116-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090924122420]] 14:00:07 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb765.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:34 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:22:42 *** FloSoft [bouncer@tyra.ra-doersch.de] has joined #openttd 14:43:13 *** [MM]Koploper [~Maurits_k@ip54518bc9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 14:43:38 *** [MM]Koploper [~Maurits_k@ip54518bc9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 14:55:14 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:56:36 *** thomas001 [thomas@a147097.studnetz.uni-leipzig.de] has joined #openttd 14:57:22 <thomas001> hi, i play ecs for the first time. what wagons do i need to transport wood products? i don't find any documentation about this. 14:58:06 <planetmaker> thomas001: what kind of newgrfs do you use? ECS vectors by any chance? 14:58:20 <planetmaker> Then you'll need also a trainset which supports it. The default trains don't support it. 14:58:32 <planetmaker> Most trainsets available on bananas support ECS though 14:58:56 <thomas001> planetmaker, woops,seems like i loaded the ecs newgrfs in the wrong order 14:59:02 <planetmaker> ah, nvm... I should be able to read ;-) 14:59:14 <planetmaker> thomas001: yeah, but you still need a trainset 14:59:34 <thomas001> the standard trains won't do? 14:59:39 <planetmaker> nope 14:59:46 <thomas001> any recommendations? 15:00:06 <planetmaker> not really. Any on bananas is fine. I personally like UKRS, 2cc and Japanese 15:00:18 <planetmaker> (one at a time, not all three at the same time) 15:00:31 *** kannerke [~pvandenb@83.101.79.243] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:00:51 <thomas001> on bananas=? ;) 15:00:57 <planetmaker> online content 15:01:24 <Eddi|zuHause> thomas001: the least amount of changes from the original vehicles will be the "old wagons new cargos" set 15:01:34 <planetmaker> Basegraphics And Newgrfs And Noai And Scenarios = bananas 15:01:56 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong capitalisation ;) 15:02:04 <planetmaker> hm? 15:02:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it's BaNaNaS :) 15:02:08 <planetmaker> ah 15:02:10 <planetmaker> :-) 15:03:06 <Belugas> next version will be ANaNas 15:03:19 <thomas001> hmm there is no german trainset? 15:03:27 <Belugas> Advanced Newgrfs And Noai And Scenarios... 15:04:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:05:31 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 15:05:37 <planetmaker> thomas001: yes, there is. DBSet XL 15:05:39 <planetmaker> it's a good one, but it's not on bananas 15:05:40 <planetmaker> You might want to get the #openttdcoop NewGRF pack 15:06:30 <thomas001> ah,thank you :) 15:14:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: yexo * r17668 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Query window uses nested widgets 15:15:52 *** pyth [~dirkjan@atwork-146.r-212.178.72.atwork.nl] has quit [Quit: pyth] 15:19:37 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.105.67] has joined #openttd 15:32:53 <thomas001> hmm i delivered coal to a sand works but the coal is not accepted...why? ;) 15:36:04 <Belugas> it's not needed? 15:36:18 <Belugas> there might be another component required? 15:40:13 <Eddi|zuHause> ECS industries are very difficult to handle in a "just start somewhere" approach... there are very delecate chains and cycles of production 15:40:25 <MyCatVerbs> ECS: 15:40:28 *** crakinshot [938f4919@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:40:28 <MyCatVerbs> I mean, ECS? 15:40:35 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has joined #openttd 15:41:01 *** hickop [~hickop@AGrenoble-257-1-96-32.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:43:09 <Belugas> yes, ECS 15:43:37 <MyCatVerbs> Oh, er I was hoping someone might explain the term please? 15:44:35 <Coco-Banana-Man> Extended Cargo Scheme, a whole set of new industries and cargos. 15:44:35 <Belugas> Extended Cargo Scheme 15:44:44 <Belugas> feed me feed me! 15:45:57 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb765.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 15:46:09 <Coco-Banana-Man> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECS <--- try this page for more information. 15:52:12 <MyCatVerbs> Ahh, I see. Thank you very much. 15:54:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D446.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:59:07 * Coco-Banana-Man is wondering what a sand works might do with coal... 16:07:31 *** thingwath [~thingie@r2ap232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:11:09 *** eef [~chatzilla@adsl-84-227-71-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd9ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:14:13 *** pyth [~dirkjan@82-171-22-51.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:53 <MyCatVerbs> Pulverise it and use it as a rough substitute? :D 16:29:07 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aor212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 16:30:14 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:30:42 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:36:13 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:13 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 16:39:45 <Grelouk_> Mmh guys, can you replace railway vehicles with monorail vehicles ? 16:40:08 <glx> no 16:42:31 *** CraKinShOt [~NO@host86-150-92-85.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:43:42 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-152.prem.tmns.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:45:24 *** Doorslammer [Doorslamme@PIPP-p-203-54-229-195.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:58:17 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:44 <Belugas> would be too simple, wouldn't it? ;) 17:10:52 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:12:07 *** lordaro [~lordaro@host86-139-183-253.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:17:12 *** Wolle [DrJekyll@p57B0BF19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.221.130] has joined #openttd 17:32:02 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:32:02 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:32 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.174.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:02 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 17:39:42 *** Dr_Jekyll [DrJekyll@p57B0BF19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:39:51 *** Dr_Jekyll [DrJekyll@p57B0BF19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:45:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17669 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 17:45:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: simplified_chinese - 1 changes by Gavin 17:45:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 7 changes by josesun 17:45:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: english_US - 4 changes by agenthh 17:45:34 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hebrew - 9 changes by dnd_man 17:45:34 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: russian - 1 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:48:18 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 17:49:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:51:32 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 17:52:20 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:52:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 17:57:04 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f051085203.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:04:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@f051188001.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:04:33 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:22:07 *** Mark [~mark@5ED06D96.cable.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:06 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:31:53 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:36:32 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: frosch * r17670 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_spritegroup.cpp newgrf_spritegroup.h): -Cleanup (r12819): ResolverObject::procedure_call is not used anymore. 18:37:08 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:37:12 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:25 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:52:18 *** DJNekkid [~tmsmje@static217-26.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:53:04 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 18:54:45 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: frosch * r17671 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_engine.cpp newgrf_spritegroup.h): -Codechange: Move ResolverObject::info_view into u.vehicle as it is only needed for them. 19:07:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@89.246.221.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.170] has joined #openttd 19:14:38 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:20:52 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:52 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:22:16 <DJNekkid> what is that command again ... something like reset_vehicles 19:22:54 <glx> reset_engines maybe 19:23:22 <DJNekkid> nope :p 19:24:16 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-181-67.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:24:25 <Belugas> reboot_os? 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This fixes problems with the object scope setting. 20:28:39 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.15.150.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:22 <Eddi|zuHause> @openttd commit 8075 20:29:24 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: Commit by maedhros :: r8075 /trunk/src (3 files) (2007-01-12 11:20:34 UTC) 20:29:25 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: -Feature: Add support for variable 7E - subroutines. (peter1138) 20:31:04 <andythenorth> "Belugas: reboot_os?" how about sudo rm -rf / ?? 20:31:18 <andythenorth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RfihcLJLeo 20:32:04 <Belugas> "sudo is not recognized as a command, program or command file" 20:32:25 <Belugas> or something like that 20:32:42 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]] 20:33:06 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@82-32-243-15.cable.ubr11.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:34:01 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth 20:36:21 <Sacro> dssadohshit 20:36:28 <Sacro> that command runs D: 20:37:07 *** Booth is now known as Chris_Booth 20:38:49 *** tux_mark_5 [~kvirc@lan-84-240-29-163.vln.skynet.lt] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090115, built on: 2009/03/07 00:45:02 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:39:27 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:40:46 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth 20:43:06 <Zuu> Hmm, has steel mills always accepted passengers? 20:43:27 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.105.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:30 <Rubidium> yup, parts of it at least 20:44:00 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@168.226.105.67] has joined #openttd 20:45:05 <Zuu> Can be quite usefull in case you have noise enabled and need a spot where a big airport accepts passengers. 20:45:41 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:45:42 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:46:13 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: ecke] 20:47:05 *** oskari89 [oskari89@212-149-207-211.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Utm Aœ - Aja 35] 20:48:51 *** Booth is now known as Chris_Booth 20:52:36 <fjb> The real fun with arports starts with cargodist. 20:58:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:59:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd9ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:46 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17673 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Codechange: make InvalidateThisWindowData a function of the window class 21:06:32 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db87e84.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:06 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17674 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs): -Codechange: replace SetDirty + OnInvalidateData with InvalidateData (which does the same). Also call InvalidateData in a few cases where that was actually meant. 21:11:42 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17675 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: move the 'state' changes out of the OnPaint of the newgrf window 21:12:03 <Belugas> go Rubidium go! 21:19:45 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@55.144.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:23 <andythenorth> "Andy is actually playing the game" 21:20:52 * Sacro is losing the game :( 21:24:31 * Belugas is still working, with blasting music on his ears 21:29:43 <andythenorth> andythenorth was supposed to be working. but my brain is goo. 21:29:56 <andythenorth> the game is quite soothing. you guys did a nice job :) 21:30:05 <andythenorth> someone made some nice graphics too. boats and stuff 21:32:27 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9F10.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:36:54 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-27f8e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.15.150.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has left #openttd [] 21:38:13 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has joined #openttd 21:41:24 *** Phazorx [~pavelkoll@77.239.254.3] has left #openttd [] 21:42:04 <Belugas> time's out, got to go zhome finally 21:42:05 <Belugas> night all 21:43:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:47:53 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:51e8:81d7::1] has joined #openttd 21:48:24 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> venus.oftc.net quits: guru3 21:48:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 21:49:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17676 /trunk/src/newgrf_gui.cpp: -Codechange: make the NewGRF GUI nested 22:14:11 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:29 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 22:23:58 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DEC19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Joyful it seems - but then suddenly - by one false move it's blown away] 22:38:54 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 22:42:51 <CraKinShOt> evening 22:44:17 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 22:46:43 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [] 22:52:42 *** CraKinShOt [~NO@host86-150-92-85.range86-150.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 22:53:17 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 22:57:45 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@184.314.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:57:59 <Yexo> DaleStan: can you add support for callbacks 14E / 14F to nforenum? (feature = houses for both) 23:02:36 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:02:36 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:24 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:13:27 *** fonsinchen1 [~alve@BAEe86f.bae.pppool.de] has joined #openttd 23:15:56 <thomas001> can anyone recommend an AI? ;) 23:17:32 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:47 <Rubidium> that all depends on what you want from an AI 23:18:42 <Rubidium> admiralai and nocab are AIs that transport with lots of modes of transport 23:19:27 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAEb765.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:19:29 <Rubidium> though I've got very limited knowledge of actual AIs 23:19:52 <Yexo> you can always browse the noai forum to see if there is any AI you like 23:19:56 <Yexo> or just try them out 23:32:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A91.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:33:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77AAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:49 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 23:57:28 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:59:59 *** stuffcorpse [~stuffcorp@121.98.136.241] has joined #openttd