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has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:47 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:10:17 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.162.235] has joined #openttd 10:15:03 <planetmaker> frosch123: I don't quite follow what you changed wrt the plane refits in the last days. What did actually change from a player's POV? 10:15:26 <planetmaker> and good morning everyone :-) 10:18:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.162.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:54 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.92.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 10:28:59 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.112.92.236.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.9.174] has joined #openttd 10:33:32 <SmatZ> Chris Huebsch is such a moron 10:36:44 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 10:41:27 <yorick> who? 10:43:48 <yorick> @commit 2412 10:43:48 <DorpsGek> yorick: Commit by hackykid :: r2412 /trunk (4 files) (2005-06-05 20:45:04 UTC) 10:43:49 <DorpsGek> yorick: - Fix: [ 1214948 ] building vehicles without depot crashes game. (Chris Huebsch) 10:43:52 <yorick> that one? 10:47:01 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:05 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-75fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:53:56 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@p5B2B27D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:54:25 <planetmaker> uh @ SmatZ? 10:57:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B02CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:34 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 11:02:50 <frosch123> planetmaker: planes refitted to passengers also transport mail. in ttdp this is bound to cargoslot 0. in ottd it is bound to the cargoclass. i.e. planes refitted to tourists carry mail in ottd, but do not in ttdp. previous to my changes that behaviour was slightly inconsistent in ottd, as lots of places used the old cargoslot 0 rule 11:03:40 <SmatZ> planetmaker: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3289 11:04:09 <Rubidium> planetmaker: regarding your modified string, where you did _YAPF you ought to do _NTP too 11:04:54 <frosch123> the inconsistency affected the gui sometimes not showing the mail. but also aircraft which would be e.g. only able to carry tourists would not have carried mail as the cargoclass rule was only used when refitting, not when building. 11:05:44 <Rubidium> SmatZ: oh the "I reported this bug before with a modified version, then it got fixed, then in the fixed version I've got exactly the same bug" 11:05:48 <planetmaker> Thanks @ all three of you :-) 11:06:20 <planetmaker> though the description might have suffered from bad translation back into English 11:07:17 <Rubidium> and then he starts flaming us saying he has "20 years experience hunting/fixing bugs", yet he can't figure out that they are distinct bugs, especially because the error message is different 11:07:47 <_ln> why not ban morons from the flyspray 11:07:54 <planetmaker> hm, I wonder how the English strings crept into the German translation... 11:08:25 <Alberth> _ln: how to enforce that? 11:08:30 <Rubidium> that's simple: click copy string in WT2, then go to the next page 11:08:51 <planetmaker> Rubidium: sure, but... :-) 11:09:32 <Alberth> _ln: ie the same kind of problems of banning bad players from a server 11:10:17 <_ln> Alberth: it's easy as long as we assume the moron doesn't re-register with a new account. 11:12:39 <Alberth> _ln: Sure, bad people always play by our rules, why would we consider them bad :p 11:12:58 <Alberth> s/, /, that's / 11:19:05 <_ln> a moron is not necessarily a bad person. 11:37:09 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227035144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:38:47 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D6C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:02 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E737.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:57:30 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.201.39] has joined #openttd 12:10:50 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 12:29:49 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:29:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 12:49:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.9.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:23 *** thepalm [~chatzilla@CPE-121-210-80-70.slzx1.cht.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 12:52:53 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.31.181.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 12:56:34 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58:07 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 12:59:29 <Splex> is it possible to play 0.7.3 servers with svn? 13:00:18 <yorick> no 13:00:29 <yorick> unless you use the 0.7 branch/tag 13:00:33 <Splex> ahh 13:00:40 <Alberth> all programs must use exactly the same version, so no, unless you want to check out exactly the 0.7.3 revision 13:00:46 <Splex> ok, i want to have the opensfx on 0.7.3 version 13:00:54 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.31.181.plusnet.pcl-ag01.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:01:22 <yorick> Alberth: the 0.7 branches are relatively compatible 13:02:03 <Alberth> ok, just being safe :) 13:05:29 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 13:11:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:17:34 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has left #openttd [Leaving] 13:17:38 *** Splex [~splex@121.165.245.76] has joined #openttd 13:20:44 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:109:23ff:3ff8:56bb] has joined #openttd 13:20:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:40:44 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-168-104.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.190.87] has joined #openttd 13:56:36 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 13:59:23 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:03:16 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has joined #openttd 14:08:49 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-18-245.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:09:22 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@69.49.68.95] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: 540 seconds] 14:09:24 *** nicfer1 [~Usuario@190.50.48.189] has joined #openttd 14:10:48 *** Chris_Booth is now known as Guest380 14:10:50 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:14:11 *** Guest380 [~Chris_Boo@77-100-69-200.cable.ubr30.newt.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:00 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has joined #openttd 14:19:38 *** TrainzStoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:26:48 *** Stoffe [~mirc@237.203.216.81.static.g-td.siw.siwnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:26:48 *** TrainzStoffe is now known as Stoffe 14:29:06 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17931 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Error message window uses pure nested widgets. 14:29:27 <PeterT> Alberth, is that based on "Odd Message" in the forums? 14:29:52 <Alberth> what Odd Message are you talking about? 14:29:56 <Alberth> (probably not) 14:30:08 <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=45714 14:30:31 <Alberth> oh, those. 14:31:08 <PeterT> was it? 14:31:08 <Alberth> yes, it is, as are the past 200 or so commits I did, and so will the future 100-200 or so I will do 14:31:23 <PeterT> ok 14:31:48 <Alberth> basically, the mesg indicates a mismatch between the 'old' widgets, and my 'new' nested widgets. 14:31:55 <PeterT> ok 14:32:14 <Alberth> slowly, the old ones are disappearing, and thus also the message :) 14:37:12 <PeterT> what does T.E stand for? 14:37:28 <glx> tractive effort 14:37:37 <PeterT> oh, I can't translate that 14:37:51 <PeterT> can I leave that part blank? 14:39:05 <frosch123> "er?fesz?t?sre vontat?" :p 14:42:20 <PeterT> I don't like online translators 14:42:36 <Alberth> nobody forces you to use them 14:42:56 <frosch123> how wrong was it? 14:43:14 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: i'm sure there are railway dictionaries for your language 14:43:18 <PeterT> I don't know, I don't know how to say Tractive Effort in hungarian 14:43:33 <PeterT> Eddi|zuHause, if only I had access to one 14:44:20 <PeterT> frosch123> how wrong was it? <--- sounds somewhat like it 14:46:44 <PeterT> if you shorten Tractive Effort in English to T.E., should I also shorten efofeszitesre vontato to E.V.? 14:46:57 <frosch123> PeterT: does the finnish translation help you? 14:47:37 <PeterT> ? 14:48:47 <frosch123> STR_PURCHASE_INFO_MAX_TE :{BLACK}Maxim?lis von?er?: {GOLD}{FORCE} <- btw. it was already translated in some other place 14:49:06 <PeterT> thanks 14:50:13 <PeterT> ok, finished 14:59:20 <PeterT> do an update from webtranlators 14:59:34 *** fjb [~frank@p5485E737.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:36 *** Mesah [5455ea12@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, of course they do that on command! 15:02:02 *** welshdragon [~markjones@client-82-2-124-33.brnt.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:05 * frosch123 commands the update to take place on 2145 utc 15:06:29 <frosch123> hmm, no 1745 utc 15:07:40 <Eddi|zuHause> shouldn't it be more like 1945 CE(S)T? 15:08:03 <frosch123> i thought so, but it did not time shifting 15:08:04 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes it 1845 UTC currently? 15:08:24 <yorick> CEST isn't CET currently 15:08:52 <frosch123> it never is, is it? 15:09:04 <yorick> hmm 15:09:08 <yorick> :( 15:09:22 <frosch123> even 2a != 2b 15:09:25 <Eddi|zuHause> apples are not pears currently 15:09:42 <yorick> frosch123: unless a == b 15:09:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:10:06 <Eddi|zuHause> yorick: no, a === b, which is never the case 15:10:21 <yorick> why not 15:11:06 <Eddi|zuHause> because === is semantical equivalence of two terms 15:11:32 <Eddi|zuHause> meaning "for all possible values of a and b: a == b" 15:11:43 <frosch123> can't you use a proper symbol for that? 15:11:50 * yorick agrees 15:12:02 <Eddi|zuHause> it's the symbol Mathematica uses ;) 15:12:27 <frosch123> but it replaces it with something more graphical, doesn't it? 15:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause> depends... 15:12:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i do not have any mathematica installed ;) 15:14:12 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DCCCA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:54 <Alberth> $\equiv$ 15:25:02 <Alberth> ? of course :) 15:25:03 *** mib_z494gpps [7aa617a5@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:25:41 *** Mesah [5455ea12@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:29:01 *** mib_z494gpps [7aa617a5@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [] 15:31:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB62.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:38:24 *** welshdragon [~markjones@client-82-2-124-33.brnt.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 15:38:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 15:48:44 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-213-154.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 15:53:09 *** LordAzamath [~stabuinte@82.131.16.156.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]] 15:55:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-18-245.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 16:01:12 *** yorick [~Yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:09 <Splex> is there a way to convert normal signals to path signals via modifier key? 16:07:22 <Splex> like using ctrl key for pre/normal-signals 16:08:10 <frosch123> in the signal gui there is a convert signal button 16:08:32 <frosch123> while it is pressed no new signals are build, but only existing are replaced 16:09:42 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:22 <frosch123> but it cannot be dragged, and well, converting two-way signals to path signals is also not useful :) 16:13:41 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@dhcp-017186.wlan.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 16:14:11 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9EC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:16:45 <Splex> I tend to like to just select basic signal and then convert it to whatever i want by using modifier key, is there any way to do this for a path signal? 16:16:57 <Splex> kinda annoying to always have to choose the signal on the gui 16:17:28 <Splex> and to switch between one way and 2 way path signal 16:17:44 <Splex> annoying to have to remove the two way path signal in order to replace with one way path signal 16:18:11 <frosch123> yes, you can also build the signal and then cycle signal types by ctrl-clicking on it 16:18:29 <Splex> right, for presignals/basic 16:18:30 <frosch123> in advanced settings you can control whether to cycle though all signal types, or only normal, or only path 16:18:35 <Splex> but it doesn't cycle through the path 16:18:38 <Splex> ohh 16:18:56 <Splex> didn't see that option 16:18:57 <Splex> thanks 16:19:06 <frosch123> np :) 16:22:17 *** mib_9k2de9i4 [54de0114@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:22:32 <mib_9k2de9i4> http://oltreivideogiochi.forumcommunity.net/ 16:23:02 *** mib_9k2de9i4 [54de0114@webchat.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 16:25:51 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has joined #openttd 16:29:12 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@dhcp-017186.wlan.ntnu.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:30 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@dhcp-017186.wlan.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 16:29:47 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@dhcp-017186.wlan.ntnu.no] has quit [] 16:30:22 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.159.9] has joined #openttd 16:35:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fccae.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:07 <andythenorth> evening / morning etc 16:37:03 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-145-239.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:38:38 <andythenorth> Pikka: irwe is asking about 'zoning' town buildings for Swedish Houses. I have never done it, but I figure you might have for TAI? Looks like house var 65 and/or 66, with cb 17...? 16:39:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fccae.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:52 <Pikka> hm? 16:40:22 <andythenorth> cb 17 is house construction check 16:40:47 <Pikka> yeah, that's right 16:40:48 <andythenorth> var 65 is distance to nearest house matching a criteria 16:41:32 <Pikka> yeah, I use that for the skyscrapers in TaI, for everything else I just use a maximum number allowed in the town 16:41:37 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-213-154.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:57 <Pikka> I originally planned to do industrial/residential zoning by town x/y, but it didn't work out too well 16:43:36 <Pikka> so yeah, aside from the standard TTD zoning, all I do is make it so that skyscrapers can only be built within 2 tiles from existing ones. 16:44:01 <andythenorth> Hmm....I wonder if using var 65 is computationally expensive, and prone to getting in a spin... 16:44:11 <andythenorth> I'm not planning to code this, just helping Irwe... 16:45:35 <Pikka> "AS any search variable, be aware that it is a CPU intensive one" says the wiki 16:45:57 <Pikka> but if it's within cb 17, I wouldn't worry about the expense. if you're using it to pick graphics, on the other hand... 16:46:13 <andythenorth> I guess it would only be when a town tries to build a new building. 16:46:29 <Pikka> yup 16:46:58 <andythenorth> I've never coded houses, I don't know if it's possible to code a loop that is hard for the game to terminate (it is with industry construction). 16:47:53 <Pikka> var 65 isn't going to get into a loop 16:48:10 <andythenorth> lovely 16:48:17 <Pikka> but if you use a big search radius and it doesn't find anything, it may take a while :) 16:49:13 <andythenorth> The 'build industry but only if conditions x, y, z are met' is why ECS by George is slow when the game initiates a map, right? 16:49:28 <Pikka> the maximum radius of 63 is going to check 16383 tiles... 16:49:35 <andythenorth> Or is it something else? This will affect how FIRS tries to control industry placement... 16:50:24 <Pikka> I only check a radius of 2, 24 tiles, in TaI, and haven't noticed any slowdowns ;) 16:50:42 <Pikka> well, if it's searching for something and doesn't find it quickly, yeah, that'll slow it down. 16:50:50 <andythenorth> ok thanks 16:51:21 <Pikka> I don't know what code george uses in ECS 16:53:20 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:109:23ff:3ff8:56bb] has joined #openttd 16:53:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:109:23ff:3ff8:56bb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx_] by ChanServ 16:54:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:56:14 <frosch123> radius of 2 means 12 tiles, doesn't it? 17:00:10 *** glx_ is now known as glx 17:00:52 <Pikka> radius of 2 is 5x5 tiles, minus the one in the middle, afaia. how would you get 12? 17:02:58 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on if you want to check the circle (=border), or all tiles (=area) 17:03:06 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.24] has joined #openttd 17:03:23 <frosch123> it uses manhattan distance, not maximum distance 17:03:29 <Eddi|zuHause> but even then it would be 16 tiles 17:03:50 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: in the center is a tile, not a corner 17:04:17 <Pikka> oh, I see what you mean, it only checks tiles out to that manhattan distance 17:04:18 <Pikka> fair enough 17:04:38 <Pikka> 12 is right then 17:04:52 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: sorry, the 16 tiles were not meant as a reply to you 17:05:33 <Pikka> so I guess there'll only be 8192 or so in the maximum search, too 17:05:35 <Pikka> *shrugs* 17:05:38 <Pikka> bedtime por moi 17:05:42 <Pikka> g'night 17:05:44 *** Pikka [PikkaBird@58.173.248.50] has quit [] 17:06:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:06:40 <frosch123> hmm, Chebyshev distance, i thought there was a different name 17:07:00 <Rhamphoryncus> do multicar trams load faster if I give them a double station? 17:07:08 <frosch123> no 17:11:07 <Rhamphoryncus> They don't queue particularly well either 17:11:12 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:11:34 <frosch123> build them parallel :) 17:12:05 <Rhamphoryncus> yeah I guess that's the only way 17:13:58 <Eddi|zuHause> multistop needs some overhaul... but pherhaps that should wait for newgrf airports? 17:14:20 <Rhamphoryncus> ah, doing that and doubling the length does let them get off the main street from both directions 17:15:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.20.201.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:41 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17932 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Fix: Don't let the tooltip go under the status bar. 17:24:27 <Rhamphoryncus> Eddi|zuHause: what does that have to do with airports? 17:25:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: the intention with newgrf airports is to extend the structure to handle seaports and road stations as well 17:25:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Rhamphoryncus: to have bigger and more complex stations 17:25:34 <frosch123> though that won't make it easier :p 17:25:39 <Rhamphoryncus> ah 17:28:39 *** Leif_ [~Zuu@c-0cf9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:34:34 <Rhamphoryncus> I'm currently experimenting with cargodist. Really changes the game 17:35:41 <Rhamphoryncus> Previously I'd only put stations in a town to boost ratings, to counter my demolition of the forests 17:35:46 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-75fae253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:07 *** Leif_ is now known as Zuu 17:38:25 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17933 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move position calculation of error message window into the class. 17:38:26 <PeterT> now 17:44:34 *** FR^2 [frr@frquadrat.de] has quit [Quit: Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, lasst mich auch endlich Taten sehn!] 17:45:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: translators * r17934 /trunk/src/lang/ (5 files): 17:45:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 1 changes by josesun 17:45:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: german - 2 changes by planetmaker 17:45:37 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: greek - 125 changes by fumantsu 17:45:38 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: hungarian - 1 changes by Petert 17:45:38 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: spanish - 3 changes by Terkhen 17:45:40 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17935 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Fix (r17933): Compensate for being inside a class. 17:45:41 <PeterT> there I am! :) 17:46:30 <Alberth> except you guessed 12 minutes early :) 17:46:48 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9EC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:28 <PeterT> wow, fumantsu is really working 17:49:36 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17936 /trunk/src/screenshot.cpp: -Fix: deadlock when trying to create screenshot with too long name (including path) 17:51:49 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.115.159.9] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:58:17 * Eddi|zuHause prepares bad joke for Alberth having something to compensate :p 18:00:15 * Alberth makes some tea in the mean time 18:00:40 <Zuu> Tea sounds like a good idea 18:05:03 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 18:06:06 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@f050210175.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:06:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@g227035144.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:06:37 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 18:08:08 * Alberth pours Zuu some tea 18:08:39 * Zuu puts forward his cup 18:09:10 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17937 /trunk/src/ (openttd.cpp screenshot.cpp screenshot.h): -Codechange: rename current_screenshot_type to _screenshot_type 18:09:53 * Alberth fills the cup of Zuu too 18:10:21 * Zuu tastes the tea 18:11:19 <Zuu> Tastes good 18:14:03 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has joined #openttd 18:15:47 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17938 /trunk/src/ (console_cmds.cpp screenshot.cpp screenshot.h toolbar_gui.cpp): -Feature: non-automatic screenshot name can be entered in console 18:17:12 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17939 /trunk/src/screenshot.cpp: -Fix (r17938): debug code sneaked in 18:23:20 <Zuu> Oh, 3 more posts and I'm at post 2222 :-) 18:25:49 <Alberth> 1000.1010.1110 doesn't seem such a nice number to me :p 18:26:03 <Zuu> Hehe :-) 18:26:48 * frosch123 is around line 7480 in this channel 18:27:53 <Alberth> 0001.1101.0011.1000 almost symmetrical 18:28:27 <Zuu> frosch123: Just today or in total? 18:28:29 <frosch123> @base 10 2 7480 18:28:29 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 1110100111000 18:28:37 <frosch123> Zuu: in total 18:29:06 <frosch123> and i am happy that i have the double amount in a certain less-off-topic channel :) 18:29:21 *** bb10 [~nnscript@dhcp-077-249-031-191.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:29:36 <Alberth> your client does the counting? 18:29:36 <frosch123> Zuu: you have 1329 in my logs 18:29:44 <frosch123> no, grep -c 18:29:50 <Zuu> My log file says 51970 lines. But then it includes the join/exit events. 18:30:41 <frosch123> but they are not all by you :) 18:31:36 <Alberth> Zuu is more of a forum writer than a channel writer :) 18:31:39 <Zuu> No, not all by me. 18:32:26 <Zuu> Hanged out a lot just on the forums before I started to visit IRC. 18:32:55 <Zuu> And then, at least 500 of my forum posts I would guess could be connected to Transport Empire. 18:33:34 <frosch123> do they count negative? 18:33:35 <frosch123> :p 18:33:57 <Zuu> I don't know, but they shouldn't count as OpenTTD posts :-) 18:38:41 <Eddi|zuHause> hm. my grep -c says i have 41569 lines 18:39:21 <Eddi|zuHause> since 23. Jul 2007 18:39:59 <Eddi|zuHause> which appears to be the move to oftc 18:41:19 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, no 18:42:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that was on 12. Aug 2006 18:42:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and there are another 13048 lines in that period 18:43:32 <Eddi|zuHause> and another 1323 on freenode, since my move to linux 18:45:56 <Eddi|zuHause> now where could my mirc logs be? 18:48:32 <PeterT> SmatZ: what does r17938 mean? 18:48:36 <PeterT> what kind of feature? 18:57:12 <MyCatVerbs> PeterT: r17938 looks like a Subversion revision number to me. 18:57:33 <PeterT> I know, but I don't understand the feature 18:57:40 <MyCatVerbs> Ah, just checking. 19:00:03 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:51 <Zuu> PeterT: Have you checked the commit message of r17938? 19:02:04 <Zuu> @revision r17938 19:02:14 <Zuu> Or how it was... 19:02:27 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:02:30 <frosch123> @commit 17938 19:02:30 <DorpsGek> frosch123: Commit by smatz :: r17938 /trunk/src (4 files) (2009-11-01 18:15:35 UTC) 19:02:31 <DorpsGek> frosch123: -Feature: non-automatic screenshot name can be entered in console 19:03:41 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 19:03:47 <PeterT> yes, I looked at it 19:04:27 <Zuu> It might do "Screenshots of whole map are always drawn without console" among a few other things. 19:04:35 <Zuu> Reading from http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/17938/ 19:05:14 <frosch123> your guesses should include "screenshot name" 19:05:35 <frosch123> it is the subject in a sentence using passive form 19:05:45 <Zuu> Usage changes from "Usage: 'screenshot [big | no_con]'" to "Usage: 'screenshot [big | no_con] [file name]'" 19:06:13 <Zuu> So indeed it adds the ability to specify file names to the screenshot command in the console. 19:06:22 <Zuu> file name* 19:11:20 <Alberth> hmm, how to remove all files not under hg version control? 19:11:58 *** bb10 [~nnscript@dhcp-077-249-031-191.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:12:48 <frosch123> hg st | grep '^?' | sed 's/1?/rm/' > bla.sh + verify + execute 19:13:11 <frosch123> s/1/^/ 19:16:22 <Alberth> I did hg st -u | cut -b2- | xargs rm but I'd expect hg to be able to do this 19:18:25 <frosch123> you can make addremove and then branch from old version :p 19:18:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: " purge removes files not tracked by mercurial " 19:19:29 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17940 /trunk/src/misc_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Use real y position of the main toolbar and status bar instead of hardcoded sizes for tooltip and for error message windows. 19:19:29 <frosch123> not present in 1.3.1 19:20:39 <Alberth> doc says you must enable it first: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/PurgeExtension 19:21:07 <Alberth> I just *knew* it was possible, but hg has too many extensions 19:21:16 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B47784.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know... i just installed it from my os' repository 19:23:46 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: if enabled, it is listed under 'enabled extensions:' with 'hg help' 19:24:24 <Eddi|zuHause> "hg help" only shows "list of commands:" 19:24:40 <Alberth> @base 10 2 17940 19:24:40 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 100011000010100 19:24:57 <Alberth> nah, non-pretty number 19:25:04 <frosch123> @base 10 3 17940 19:25:04 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 220121110 19:25:18 <frosch123> true 19:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause> @base 13 25 17940 19:25:32 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2MKD 19:25:47 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 19:25:47 <frosch123> 25? 19:26:04 <frosch123> 13? 19:26:32 *** fonsinchen [~alve@BAE95cf.bae.pppool.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:30:25 <TrueBrain> you guys are WEIRD 19:31:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:39 <frosch123> @base 36 2 WEIRD 19:31:39 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 11001111100111011001111001 19:32:09 *** bb10 [~nnscript@d52172.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:18 <SpComb> pooh 19:32:21 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:50 <SpComb> @base 10 2 2 19:32:50 <DorpsGek> SpComb: 10 19:36:05 *** ccfreak2k [ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:41:34 <Zuu> @base 26 2 WEIRD 19:41:34 <DorpsGek> Zuu: Error: Invalid <number> for base 26: WEIRD 19:42:13 <_ln> @base 36 2 WEIRD 19:42:13 <DorpsGek> _ln: 11001111100111011001111001 19:42:30 <PeterT> @base 1 1 19:42:30 <DorpsGek> PeterT: Error: '1' is not a valid base. 19:42:35 <Eddi|zuHause> go play with the bot in private! 19:42:40 <PeterT> what are you guys doing? 19:42:51 * _ln was merely correcting Zuu's line 19:43:23 <Zuu> @base 36 2 PRIVATE 19:43:23 <DorpsGek> Zuu: 110100001110110110110111011010000010 19:44:02 <Zuu> :-) 19:44:24 <TrueBrain> lets start banning people for abuse 19:44:28 <TrueBrain> YEAH! LETS DO THAT! :) 19:45:13 <Zuu> Someone seams to be on ban mood :-) 19:56:10 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Irssi garbage collection, gogo.] 19:56:27 *** Spoons [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:59:14 *** Spoons is now known as FauxFaux 20:09:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.190.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.168.44] has joined #openttd 20:13:57 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@li26-205.members.linode.com] has joined #openttd 20:18:34 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19:15 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.228.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:23 *** rellig [~quassel@minad.de] has joined #openttd 20:26:55 *** jnd [~jenda@r5ai157.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:27:07 *** ecke [~ecke@213.195.231.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:18 *** M4F1050 [~MirandaFu@blfd-4db1984e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:35:37 *** worldemar [~woldemar@188.122.243.243] has joined #openttd 20:40:48 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17941 /trunk/src/ (console_cmds.cpp screenshot.cpp): -Fix: close BMP file when making screenshot fails 20:50:12 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: alberth * r17942 /trunk/src/widgets/dropdown.cpp: -Documentation: Add a few doxygen comments to the dropdown code. 20:54:33 <CIA-4> OpenTTD: smatz * r17943 /trunk/src/screenshot.cpp: -Change: use 24bpp BMP format instead of 32bpp for screenshots. Saves space and is supported by more image viewers 20:54:54 *** M4F1050 [~MirandaFu@blfd-4db1984e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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(Möge der Saft mit euch sein!)] 22:58:59 <_ln> hmm, how do i read the list of processes from /proc? 23:09:09 <SmatZ> cat /proc/*/cmdline ? 23:11:31 <_ln> i'm wondering about the * part. i guess i'll just read the /proc directory and check if a subdirectory begins with a number and has e.g. cmdline inside. 23:12:34 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.180.228] has joined #openttd 23:12:35 <_ln> C program, not shell 23:13:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 23:20:23 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@77.206.155.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:26 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.180.228] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.0] 23:34:08 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:34:35 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 23:35:29 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:38 *** tdev [~tdev@p508ECD22.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:53 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 23:44:07 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:55:59 *** welshdragon [~markjones@147.143.254.214] has quit [Quit: 5 ] 23:56:20 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-76-109-50-97.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 23:56:52 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8766c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:35 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]