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Man wusste nie so genau, wie man sie wirksam einsetzen konnte, ohne dass sie gleich b] 02:15:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@78-105-191-80.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tsch?ss] 02:19:26 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:28:52 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 02:31:57 *** prime [~BAdams789@40.83.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:46:40 <prime> Hi, I'm looking for information on openttd's rendering pipeline 02:47:07 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:00:11 *** bb10 [~nnscript@62.140.137.33] has joined #openttd 03:02:09 <prime> Does anyone know in which source file the main rendering pipeline is in? 03:04:17 <glx> blitter/* 03:04:27 <prime> ok cool, thank you 03:05:57 <glx> and gfx.cpp 03:07:39 <prime> I'm actually writing a 2-d isometic map editor and wanted to look at other pipes to see the differences in my implementation 03:08:09 <glx> well we just blit sprites :) 03:09:15 <prime> the whole scene for every frame? I kinda wanna implement dirty rectangles but it seems like it would be a pain with isometric 03:09:34 <glx> there are dirty rectangles :) 03:09:46 <glx> would be silly to redraw everything 03:09:51 <prime> yeah 03:10:12 <prime> my pipe is silly at the moment :) 03:11:42 <glx> though when there's a given amount of dirty rectangles (can't remember the value) we do a full redraw instead many small ones) 03:11:54 <prime> right on 03:12:46 <prime> how do yall handle screen movement? Ive been redrawing the entire scene (probably bad). 03:13:12 <prime> Seeing as drawing an entire map to a buffer would consume a lot of memory for large maps 03:13:40 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 03:18:44 <glx> memory move then refresh of the new visible part 03:20:42 <prime> so you have the entire scene in memory? 03:21:15 <glx> the screen 03:22:23 <prime> ok 03:22:51 <prime> i appreciate the input, gonna go take a look at the sources for a while 03:22:54 <prime> thanks a bunch 03:22:58 * prime waves 03:25:21 *** tneo [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:26:08 *** tneo [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 03:31:34 * roboboy wonders if we will see a new TTDPatch beta or RC 03:33:50 <Chrill> so, is the next project OpenMusic for ottd? :p 03:39:21 <roboboy> posibly 03:40:07 <Chrill> I love the new release 03:40:13 <roboboy> I would personally like to see the new music be jazz or whatever the originals style was 03:40:23 <Chrill> the new music should be the very same style 03:40:37 <Chrill> or perhaps a Locomotion inspired way? Eras have music? 03:40:55 <Chrill> like one runs from 1850-1920, 1920-60, 1960-2000, 2000-ETERNITEH 03:40:57 <Chrill> or somesuch 03:41:41 <Chrill> although how could I ever play OpenTTD without Little Red Diesel and other classics? 03:41:53 <roboboy> yeah 03:46:31 *** Katje [~Kitty@tao.quixotic.eu] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:46:33 *** Katje [~Kitty@tao.quixotic.eu] has joined #openttd 03:49:24 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has quit [] 03:51:41 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 03:52:08 *** Osai [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 03:54:46 * roboboy is tired 04:07:08 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Night All...] 04:16:49 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:17:08 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 04:26:39 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 04:36:01 <roboboy> I also remember lewis1138 and JT when they were active 04:36:15 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c383.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:39:56 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:b9a4:a76:4e4:adfd] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:43:38 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8db67.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:49:35 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:49:47 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 04:49:52 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.244.80] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:52:59 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 04:53:38 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 04:56:29 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 04:57:18 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 05:29:35 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 05:29:38 *** dihedral [~dih@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 05:31:12 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:05 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 05:34:07 *** bb10 [~nnscript@62.140.137.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:41:47 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 05:42:08 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 05:42:23 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest407 06:21:20 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:47:01 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 06:47:17 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn12-192.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:00:34 *** Guest407 is now known as planetmaker 07:27:22 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@109.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 07:27:38 <Terkhen> good morning 07:59:19 *** prime [~BAdams789@40.83.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [] 08:17:40 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:36:34 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:55:27 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:4e69:a155::1] has quit [Server closed connection] 08:55:34 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:4e69:a155::1] has joined #openttd 08:55:36 <andythenorth> whoever added bounding box display to the game deserves cookies 08:56:18 <andythenorth> old things are still good things 08:58:43 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:58:58 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 08:59:27 <andythenorth> and if a 120t steel transporter counts as cookies, cookies will be forthcoming :; 08:59:31 <andythenorth> ;) 09:01:33 <Alberth> "bounding box display" ? 09:01:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18637 /trunk/src/network/network_content_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3428]: check whether the content list is empty before trying to draw it 09:01:50 <SmatZ> Alberth: Ctrl+B 09:02:02 <Alberth> oh, those boxes :) 09:02:30 <Alberth> wrong number of dimensions :) 09:02:54 <SmatZ> :) 09:04:21 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 09:19:28 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:23 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d199-126-251-5.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 09:27:57 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 09:38:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18638 /trunk/src/network/network_content.cpp: -Fix: downloading music sets would fail 09:43:53 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:53:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF95C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:56:39 * andythenorth bravely enters the strange world of cargo translation tables 09:59:36 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r18639 /trunk/src/3rdparty/squirrel/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 09:59:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: Squirrel from 2.2.3 to 2.2.4 09:59:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Revert (r17273): this fix is included in Squirrel 2.2.4 10:14:50 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB51A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:20:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:42 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc2712.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:36:03 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:40:04 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:52:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:57:57 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:12:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:55 *** Alberth1 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:15:55 *** Alberth is now known as Guest437 11:15:55 *** Alberth1 is now known as Alberth 11:16:01 *** Guest437 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:12 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:17:26 *** TinoDidriksen [~TinoDidri@alpha.visl.sdu.dk] has joined #openttd 11:21:20 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:21:23 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF95C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:08 * andythenorth hmm 11:27:11 <andythenorth> fun with bitmasks 11:27:36 <Eddi|zuHause> they are indeed ;) 11:27:36 <andythenorth> makes me feel a teensy bit smarter when I figure it out :| 11:27:49 *** mirQus [mirq@rere.qmqm.pl] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:27:51 *** mirQus [mirq@rere.qmqm.pl] has joined #openttd 11:28:47 <andythenorth> I would make HEQS support the copper cargo in canset, but I have no way to test it :| 11:29:07 *** Forked [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:29:19 *** kjetil [~kjetil@presenterer.formye.info] has joined #openttd 11:29:22 *** kjetil is now known as Forked 11:30:51 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:31:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:38:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen the canset in action... 11:50:44 <planetmaker> hm... can someone explain me why a train of mine is waiting for a free path? It's on petern's server, 1.0.0-beta1, http://www.openttd.org/en/server/23741 11:50:53 <planetmaker> I'm talking about train #23 11:50:54 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:51:30 <Eddi|zuHause> switched on pbs reservations and checked for stale reservations? 11:51:43 <planetmaker> yes. They're always on 11:51:55 <planetmaker> and there's no stale reservation 11:52:00 <Eddi|zuHause> have a screenshot? 11:53:16 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 11:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... gtg, food and family 11:54:22 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:59 <planetmaker> ... hm... it solved when another train reached the station. Afterwards the train also left the depot. I wonder why... Luckily I have a save 11:55:23 *** JVassie [~TheExile^@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:59:11 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B4607F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:05:26 <planetmaker> hm... posted here: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3430 12:05:38 <planetmaker> have to go now... so it won't get forgotten ;-) 12:13:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.19.96.67] has joined #openttd 12:18:00 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@105.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 12:19:00 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 12:23:37 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@109.68.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:06 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:29:45 <Ammler> peter's server has a good example grid lock, because pbs has other wait times than the other signals. 12:32:59 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: welshdragon] 12:33:51 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:34:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B16BA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:34:46 *** |Terkhen| is now known as Terkhen 12:36:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B379F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:38:36 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 12:43:40 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.244.80] has joined #openttd 12:54:49 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable246.69-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 12:55:09 <dragonhorseboy> any of you know whatever happened to the basecost.grf download link? :/ < needs a copy of it again 13:00:31 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B4607F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:42 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:08:31 <Rubidium> I think the link still exists 13:08:52 <Rubidium> whether the thing it's linked to still exists is something else 13:08:53 <dragonhorseboy> rubidium hmm well clicking on it gets a 404 error .. think something went on with the ppcis server 13:09:00 *** stephank [~traveler@84.25.113.14] has joined #openttd 13:09:33 *** stephank is now known as Guest453 13:09:59 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 13:10:21 <dragonhorseboy> ah well guess I'll have to save the server for another time 13:12:39 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 13:15:31 <dragonhorseboy> hmm maybe a rv+boat only server hehe 13:16:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@78-105-191-80.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:26:35 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: I once uploaded it to bananas too 13:27:06 <dragonhorseboy> ah ok didn't think you would be around now ammler .. guess I'll check that 13:29:02 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9175:af5d:c90:a3f8] has joined #openttd 13:29:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:29:19 <dragonhorseboy> ammler btw you still working on any station grfs these days or no? 13:30:15 <Ammler> I never did 13:30:28 <Ammler> and btw. the grf is for sure in our grfpack 13:31:01 <Ammler> I can't nfo, I just do sometimes some litle Action0 hacks. 13:31:06 <dragonhorseboy> ah ok 13:32:00 <dragonhorseboy> btw one curious question anyhow but where did the co-op mode go to or was I using some kind of night build before? (not the old mini-in .. there was a different coop play after that one) 13:32:10 <dragonhorseboy> if you're not sure thats ok 13:32:26 <Ammler> you might mean is2 13:32:42 <dragonhorseboy> ah..yeah that name sounded familiar...ty...brb 13:33:00 <Ammler> that is still avaible on tt-forums 13:33:12 <dragonhorseboy> found it http://wiki.openttd.org/Infrastructure_Sharing 13:33:47 <dragonhorseboy> I didn't recall whatever the name was before till you mentioned it 13:34:01 <dragonhorseboy> hmm beta5 now .. quite a way from beta2 I used now that I recall it 13:34:56 * dragonhorseboy waits for it to download :) 13:35:53 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: anyway, thanks for report the 404, fixed. 13:36:00 <dragonhorseboy> :) 13:37:34 <dragonhorseboy> the reason I was asking about is2 was that while playing a quick game yesterday (all japan grfs and industry:none basically) there were some commentings on sharing the busy stations instead of having to build several random seperate ones 13:37:47 <dragonhorseboy> might see what goes on if I can get these two people to play is2 as well :) 13:38:12 <Ammler> there should still be some is2 server running 13:38:35 <dragonhorseboy> really? hmm ok one moment to get the is2 folder launched :p 13:38:57 <roboboy> im on one 13:40:13 <dragonhorseboy> ah hrm seem they didn't add the skip-sound-folder thing in the is2 build as well.. grr 13:40:14 <dragonhorseboy> brb 13:40:36 <Ammler> skip-sound-folder? 13:42:40 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:48:31 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r18640 /trunk/src/ (core/smallvec_type.hpp network/network_content_gui.cpp): 13:49:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r18633): don't assert when accessing first invalid item, it's used quite often in the code 13:49:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Revert (r18637): it's not needed any more 13:49:47 <Forked> urgh, if only station coverage was one more tile :) 13:51:02 <dragonhorseboy> ammler .. yeah 0.7.5 could skip needing any sound files if user wanted to .. seem is2 build doesn't have this 13:51:36 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 13:53:05 <dragonhorseboy> hmm where to find the sound files tho >_< 13:53:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D5B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:15 <dragonhorseboy> ok got it finally .. roboboy you said you're already in an is2 game now? 13:56:55 <roboboy> yeah 13:57:01 <roboboy> jonty has one 13:57:09 <Ammler> dragonhorseboy: you mean the empty sample.cat? 13:57:24 <dragonhorseboy> that I just noticed .. one of the grf isn't in the banana list tho so looking online now 13:57:30 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B4607F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:57:56 <roboboy> get it via pikkawiki 13:59:25 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:01:45 <dragonhorseboy> ok downloading the rest now ... :) 14:03:25 <dragonhorseboy> hey what happened? server went off >_< 14:03:54 <dragonhorseboy> ***** :p 14:04:39 * dragonhorseboy pokes jonty-comp 14:04:47 <dragonhorseboy> <wanted to see what it was like 14:06:20 <dragonhorseboy> :| 14:07:24 <roboboy> hm interesting 14:11:12 <dragonhorseboy> righttt 14:11:20 <dragonhorseboy> still offline :p 14:14:28 <roboboy> weird 14:14:57 <roboboy> his dedicated hosting might be playing up 14:15:06 <dragonhorseboy> perhaps 14:17:32 *** Polygon [~Poly@p54B4607F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:19:37 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B379F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p5B2B3058.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:22:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:29:45 <dragonhorseboy> hey tokai 14:34:41 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-68-188.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:42:37 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:47:36 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: ecke] 14:51:19 *** APTX [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:51:20 *** APTX [~APTX@ks32603.kimsufi.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:31 *** welshdragon [~markmac@client-86-27-136-83.winn.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:12:43 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:14:52 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:48 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:20:15 <Kovensky> hurf 15:20:26 <Kovensky> there's a city in the desert; I ship it passengers, water and food 15:20:29 <Kovensky> and yet it won't grow :( 15:20:41 <Kovensky> 5 years and it's still 715 inhabitants large 15:24:29 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has joined #openttd 15:28:45 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@188.126.203.230] has quit [Quit: edgepro: There are two kinds of people, those who finish what they start and so on.] 15:30:05 <dragonhorseboy> heh 15:34:08 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 15:36:09 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiy249.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:40:50 *** Goulp [~Goulp@90.94.230.222] has joined #openttd 15:45:37 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 15:46:15 *** Goulp [~Goulp@90.94.230.222] has quit [Quit: PACKET_SERVER_SHUTDOWN] 15:46:49 <dragonhorseboy> kovensky I've never played tropical that much .. usually with pineapple+additionals anyway 15:47:13 <dragonhorseboy> its nice for a slow steady game where you're not able to earn much in first place and so keeping small independent networks 16:05:30 *** dragonhorseboy [~zerovnc@modemcable246.69-58-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 16:08:16 *** Luukland [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:09:15 <Luukland> Good afternoon guys, can someone tell me the setting I need to disable to disable trains turning around at signals (because to long waiting?) 16:11:03 <Luukland> Ah found it myselve; 16:11:04 <Luukland> wait_oneway_signal = 15 16:11:04 <Luukland> wait_twoway_signal = 41 16:11:04 <Luukland> wait_for_pbs_path = 30 16:11:05 <Luukland> Thx 16:11:07 *** Luukland [~Hassan@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [] 16:11:10 <Kovensky> set to 255 16:11:12 <Kovensky> that disables it 16:13:32 <SpComb^> should be default :/ 16:13:59 <SpComb^> it usually just makes the problem worse after some nasty traffic jam 16:14:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it should not be default, the reversal algorithm for pbs should be improved 16:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it should only reverse if it can actually reserve a path 16:16:03 <Eddi|zuHause> and those settings should be available from the gui 16:18:34 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:37 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18:47 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:19:13 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: when do you need a train to reverse? 16:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: occasionally that can resolve deadlocks while you are not looking 16:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: ideally, a train should warn that it is stuck before reversing 16:20:57 <Ammler> my experience is that revering trains produce deadlocks :-) 16:22:20 *** Rubix`` [~wrqwer@cbl-dhcp-5-050.machlink.com] has joined #openttd 16:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but you don't build flat junctions ;) 16:25:16 <Ammler> but something for sure, you can't disable pbs waiting and enable the block signal waiting, either you disable both or none. 16:25:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't ever build block signals anymore 16:27:07 <Eddi|zuHause> althoug, since pbs, you can get most flat junctions blocking-free at the cost of long signal distances 16:27:53 <Ammler> well, I prefer compact lines than 10 parallel lines 16:30:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant deadlock-free 16:32:25 *** Zuu [Zuu@c-dcf5e655.510-8-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 16:34:51 <SpComb^> flat junctions are ok 16:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause> some of my non-pbs flat junctions were amazingly effective ;) 16:38:15 <Ammler> well, if every week one train uses your junction, it is easy to be effective :-P 16:42:27 <Eddi|zuHause> well, they are fine for "medium" traffic 16:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause> for "high" traffic, the chance of deadlocks increases drastically 16:48:53 *** asilv [~asilvio@dsl-lprbrasgw1-fe9afa00-232.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:00:28 *** PeterT [~PeterT@c-76-19-211-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:04 <dihedral> TrueBrain, what are you doing not in 'the other channel'? 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19:59:36 <__ln> west coast 19:59:53 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: a1270] 20:02:58 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:04:56 <andythenorth> __ln: took me a couple of hours 20:05:23 <andythenorth> US -> Canada :) 20:07:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiy249.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 20:09:16 <__ln> thanks 20:18:07 *** phalax [~phalax@84.19.128.89] has joined #openttd 20:38:40 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF95C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:16:27 <andythenorth> FIRS has mostly the same cargos and industries in the main three climates... 21:16:39 <andythenorth> does that harm the game's charm? 21:25:13 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 21:29:16 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-201-44-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7664C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7664C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:49:05 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeiy249.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:45 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeja193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 22:02:03 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:55 *** lewymati [~lewymati@aeja193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 22:05:18 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:20:59 *** ecke [~ecke@211.143.broadband13.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 22:24:44 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:26:14 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@219.104.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 22:26:15 *** Timmaexx [~quassel@port-92-201-44-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 22:28:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.212.78] has joined #openttd 22:31:27 <sparr> over in #openttdcoop we are playing a game where inflation is causing some previously-very-profitable trains to become unprofitable. is that expected? 22:32:11 <peter1138> yes 22:34:50 <sparr> will that trend continue? that is, is there no way to make profit in the year 3000+ ? 22:35:13 <peter1138> yes, nope 22:35:22 <peter1138> well, inflation will stop at some point 22:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> inflation should stop after 130 years or so 22:36:23 <Eddi|zuHause> or 170? 22:36:28 <sparr> our game is in 2219 22:39:08 <Eddi|zuHause> so if you started in 2050 that's 170 years 22:50:48 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 22:52:51 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-25-68-188.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 22:56:03 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:59:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-68-188.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:45 <Eddi|zuHause> happy end of christmas 23:02:45 *** Chrill [~chrischri@80.216.60.117] has quit [] 23:03:32 <SpComb^> is it official now? 23:03:33 <PeterT> Why is it end? 23:03:42 <PeterT> Oh, that last possible time zone... 23:04:08 <Eddi|zuHause> christmas ends on the 26th 23:04:14 <SpComb^> or GMT+1 23:04:40 <murr4y> christmas lasts til easter! 23:12:40 <sparr> i read a spec fiction story a long time ago about the commercialization of christmas 23:12:55 <sparr> main character was a marketing guy for a big retail store 23:13:06 <sparr> the "christmas season" started in july 23:13:37 <sparr> the punchline of the whole book was at the very end when he couldn't figure out why his girlfriend's quaint family only celebrated on "the last day of the season" 23:18:00 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 23:19:20 <Terkhen> good night 23:19:22 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@105.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 23:20:29 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@45.69.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:02 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:26:25 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@219.104.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:28:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 23:44:30 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:45:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 23:49:35 *** Guest453 [~traveler@84.25.113.14] has quit [Quit: * Whiff! *] 23:51:23 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:36 <sparr> is there a way to get a plane to divert for repairs when it breaks down far from its destination, without having it always stop at an intermediate airport? 23:52:33 <SpComb^> service it more often 23:52:40 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-157-152-237.range86-157.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 23:52:50 <Eddi|zuHause> sparr: no. 23:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> sparr: as there is no such thing as "air-waypoints", you can't sensibly use conditional orders 23:54:00 <SpComb^> navigational beacons! 23:54:10 <SpComb^> and an ATC game-mode! 23:54:58 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb^: i think someone made an extensive suggestion topic about that 23:56:42 <SpComb^> one's always free to make suggestions 23:58:09 <Ammler> couldn't you set a plane order with no-load and no-unload?