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00:00:19 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-f5f9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 00:00:39 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dba94b5.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:08 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 00:24:22 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:42 *** Gar`zzz [~zombiepug@124.189.247.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:30:51 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 00:31:29 *** Gargami [~zombiepug@124.189.247.49] has joined #openttd 00:32:46 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77CC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:33:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77762.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:18 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-218-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: o.o] 00:37:52 <Bluelight> How do I reset company? 00:38:03 <Bluelight> rcon pass reset_company 2? 00:38:26 <Eoin> seen as i dont know, ill use the infamous line 00:38:30 <Eoin> Check the wiki :) 00:38:58 <PeterT> Bluelight: rcon <password> "reset_company <company-number>" 00:40:39 <Rubidium> "Have you tried turning it off and on again?" 00:41:12 <Bluelight> Well I tried that, but got an how to use command message.. 00:41:20 <Eoin> in my microsoft certification 00:41:24 <Bluelight> And the company will not be reset.. 00:41:28 <Eoin> one of the questions was bloody stupid 00:41:47 <Eoin> one of the answers for fixing a hardware problem was Switch it on and off 6 times rapidly 00:41:51 <Eoin> i mean, cmon.... rofl 00:42:59 <Rubidium> Bluelight: have you read the "how to use" message? It actually gives a hint to what might be wrong 00:50:11 <Bluelight> http://infernusweb.net/hosting/BlueLight/OpenTTD_screenshot.png 00:50:29 <Bluelight> The password is correct.. Why do I get this message instead of a kick..? 00:51:06 <Xaroth> er 00:51:07 <Xaroth> use quotes 00:51:09 <Rubidium> type rcon (or help rcon) 00:51:12 <PeterT> I can't see, do you have quotation marks? 00:51:13 <Xaroth> rcon <password> "kick 3" 00:51:24 <Bluelight> You need " 00:51:29 <Xaroth> the game thinks you just sent the command "kick" to rcon 00:52:00 <Bluelight> Ok 00:52:14 <Xaroth> gnight 00:52:21 <PeterT> night 00:53:52 <Bluelight> It worked.. THanks.. :) 00:53:57 <PeterT> Bluelight: Please read http://wiki.openttd.org/Console and also http://wiki.openttd.org/Console#Multiplayer_commands 00:54:05 <Bluelight> I did.. 00:54:12 <PeterT> glad you were able to kick that poor fellow 00:54:22 <Bluelight> It was my buddy.. 00:55:23 <PeterT> where is the output of the "script" command? 00:55:34 <PeterT> is it in the local (install) dir or the shared dir? 01:01:56 <PeterT> Zuu: Hi there, is the latest version of your filter sign list patch available at the FS task, or at the tt-f topic? 01:01:57 <PeterT> or both/ 01:03:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and the damn forum did it again... 01:04:07 <PeterT> I have a feeling it will do it again tommorow 01:07:56 <Eddi|zuHause> http://4fuckr.com/image_743694.htm 01:09:04 <PeterT> Where is the 5th pig? 01:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> that is the question, yes. 01:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause> the first comment says "print and fold" 01:11:17 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 01:11:47 * PeterT wonders how he long it took him to find that out 01:11:53 <Eddi|zuHause> very interesting... the post actually got through, but the forum bavckup intercepted the reloading of the page to view it... 01:13:18 <PeterT> you mean the "view your submitted message"? 01:14:34 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that is done automatically like 5 seconds after the post 01:17:05 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFB1C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:59 *** Gargami is now known as Gar`zzz 01:32:37 <Eddi|zuHause> so, have you found the fifth pig yet? :p 01:32:44 <PeterT> No 01:32:53 <PeterT> I stopped looking when you said print and fold 01:34:10 <Eddi|zuHause> aww... spoil sport... 01:34:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well then, look at the rest of the comments ;) 01:36:07 <PeterT> The only thing I can understand without a translator is "arschloch" 01:36:32 <Eddi|zuHause> you won't need a translator for the solution ;) 01:36:51 <PeterT> "kein bock just post the result you asshole" 01:37:02 <PeterT> front of the screen 01:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you missed the important one :p 01:39:00 <glx> folding in my head, it seems to be a face 01:39:28 <PeterT> Right, I didn't look after the porn advert, I assumed it was the end of the page 01:39:43 <Eddi|zuHause> glx: yeah, that's how far i got before looking at the solution 01:39:57 *** aber [~Adium@p5B324E5C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40:14 <glx> and I think I recognised which one 01:41:06 <glx> I was right 01:41:23 <PeterT> what is the solution? 01:42:38 <thingwath> The final one. (Sorry.) 01:44:43 <Eddi|zuHause> ... that's a bad joke... 01:45:24 <thingwath> It's almost 3 at morning. What would you expect⊠01:45:39 <kd5pbo> Discretion. 01:47:43 *** KenjiE20|LT [~KenjiE20@host81-129-81-36.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 01:50:41 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:50:48 <Zuu> PeterT: The last version should be at FS, but check the dates if you are in doubt. Also all files should contain the version info. 01:50:51 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.249.21] has quit [Quit: ãããã¿] 01:51:12 <PeterT> Zuu: got it and patched latest trunk 01:52:10 <Zuu> I still need to make the match-button use a static variable so its state is remembered when you close and then re-open the window. 01:52:28 <Zuu> I think there is a list in one of the later FS-comments on what is left to do. 01:55:23 <Zuu> The static var should be quite easy for me to do now that I got the staticness done in my ai break on string-patch. 01:58:16 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:44 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 02:04:16 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 02:05:02 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:06:58 *** OwenS 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03:15:25 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 03:24:49 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-134-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:39 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:53 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 03:28:09 <PeterT> Hello Nite_Owl 03:28:56 <Nite_Owl> I said it already 03:32:05 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.244.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:48 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 04:06:55 *** gr00vy [cRave@188.107.252.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:07:01 *** gr00vy [cRave@188.107.242.95] has joined #openttd 04:16:22 *** GoneWacko [~GoneWacko@dhcp-077-249-161-027.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 04:19:15 <PeterT> It's a GoneWacko 04:29:15 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d2bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:33:44 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:69af:2c12:6da5:acac] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:36:35 *** 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[~wizzleby@pool-74-109-48-216.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 08:55:59 *** Forgetful_Lion [HydraIRC@CPE-121-208-195-54.szxk1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:58:35 *** zephyris [~chatzilla@cpc1-oxfd18-2-0-cust689.4-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:02 *** kyzz [473fb079@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 09:04:02 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:05:26 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.214] has joined #openttd 09:14:20 *** Forgetful_Lion [HydraIRC@CPE-121-208-195-54.szxk1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:20:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19181 /trunk/bin/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 09:20:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Change: rework the order of the data in the base graphics metadata files. 09:20:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Add: translations for Czech, German, Finnish and Spanish to the base graphics metadata files. 09:21:47 * roboboy doesm't expect his patched build to build 09:24:38 <roboboy> oo it seems to have compiled 09:24:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:28:48 * roboboy waits for his build to start 09:30:36 <roboboy> hm it seems to work 09:33:56 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-f5f9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:44:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D81F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:44 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:49:29 * roboboy wonders how often timetables are used 09:53:27 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-162-205-169.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:54:54 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-162-205-169.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:14 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@251.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #openttd 10:00:24 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-088-069-218-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:32 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:03:58 <Terkhen> good morning 10:04:19 <kd5pbo> Terkhen: Good morning. 10:09:04 *** steffan [~steffan@steffan.netrep.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:16 *** Splex [~splex@n219078137059.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:14:17 *** steffan [~steffan@steffan.netrep.oftc.net] has left #openttd [] 10:14:36 *** kyzz [473fb079@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:16:37 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc21a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 10:18:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 10:18:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 10:19:11 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 10:19:52 *** Splex [~splex@n219079154028.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 10:19:58 <TrueBrain> @whoami 10:19:58 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: TrueBrain 10:20:00 <TrueBrain> good boy 10:20:09 <TrueBrain> who is a good doggy .. who is a good doggy! YES ! YES! 10:25:33 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:26:53 <Rubidium> is it a dog? 10:27:03 <DorpsGek> Bark bark 10:27:05 <Rubidium> or is it an dyslexic dog? 10:27:10 <Rubidium> s/n// 10:27:25 <TrueBrain> his boss is, so .. 10:27:51 <Muxy> and does he knows a lot of people ? 10:27:51 <Rubidium> so it's god? 10:28:12 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: nah 10:28:24 <Rubidium> oh... the mean and median for the title game vote is almost the same :) 10:28:41 <Rubidium> so the votes must be pretty evenly distributed 10:28:45 <TrueBrain> but shouldn't you have the top? :p 10:31:59 <Rubidium> yeah, the top 3 (or maybe 4) will go to the next round 10:39:31 *** ChoHag [~mking@109-170-148-202.xdsl.murphx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:49 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:58:58 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:59:05 *** welshdragon [~markmac@147.143.254.214] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:12 *** Yexo is now known as Guest5 11:12:12 *** Guest5 [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:23 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:15:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 11:29:01 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30:10 <kd5pbo> What's the point of @whoami? 11:30:34 <Zuu> To see if DorpsGek know who you are? 11:30:35 <Zuu> eg 11:30:37 <Zuu> @whoami 11:30:37 <DorpsGek> Zuu: I don't recognize you. 11:30:42 <kd5pbo> Oh. 11:31:01 <kd5pbo> Not to tell you who you are, then? 11:31:02 <Zuu> So I can't do op commands which people who are recognized can. 11:31:15 <Zuu> (at least that I think is what it is for) 11:31:24 <kd5pbo> DorpsGek: @help 11:31:34 <Muxy> Zuu: and to do Ops commands, then you need to have Op capability also 11:31:49 <kd5pbo> Ah. 11:32:44 <Muxy> kd5pbo: you can have more information with googling supybot 11:33:05 <kd5pbo> Thanks. 11:33:14 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 11:40:52 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 11:47:30 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:49:54 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 11:52:59 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.17.249.21] has joined #openttd 11:53:13 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 11:57:01 *** Splex [~splex@n219079154028.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:22 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:02:13 * roboboy shall try to sleep 12:02:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc6f0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:31 *** OwenS [~oshepherd@cpc1-stkn14-2-0-cust562.11-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 12:13:28 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 12:31:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:38:29 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@nas46-24.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:41:41 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:42:46 *** neli [micha@88.159.215.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:52 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 12:50:47 *** Forgetful_Lion [HydraIRC@CPE-121-208-195-54.szxk1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 12:53:22 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:08:19 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 13:26:14 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de77.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:28:29 *** roboboy [3aad2910@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 13:30:27 *** Splex [~splex@n219079154028.netvigator.com] has joined #openttd 13:30:28 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@j104051.upc-j.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:31:11 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d2bb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:33 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 13:32:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19182 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Use CommandCost return value in CheckIfIndustryIsAllowed() and CheckIfFarEnoughFromIndustry(). 13:49:26 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:48ad:8492:14b3:2840] has joined #openttd 13:49:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:53:50 *** planetmaker is now known as tycoon 13:54:59 *** tycoon is now known as planetmaker 13:55:49 *** planetmaker is now known as Tycoon 13:56:29 *** Tycoon is now known as planetmaker 14:11:36 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-58-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:17:22 <PeterT> with the changes in trunk, will commands like "!name" be unavailable? 14:17:40 <PeterT> or do the changes in trunk only disallow things like CityBuilder? 14:22:05 <Eddi|zuHause> do you have a specific change in mind? 14:22:41 <PeterT> No 14:22:53 <PeterT> I believe it was some kind of "CompanyCheck" 14:22:58 <PeterT> let me look at the flyspray 14:29:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:31:00 *** Yexo [~Yexo@38-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 14:54:49 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Quit: Flieht, ihr Narren!] 14:57:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19183 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Return CommandCost from FindTownForIndustry(). 15:11:19 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@50.76.200-77.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:40 <PeterT> what would go after the equals sign in a ban? 15:14:49 <PeterT> 123.456.789.000 = ? 15:17:07 <Eddi|zuHause> why would there need to go anything? 15:17:47 <PeterT> Why is there an equals sign? 15:17:56 <PeterT> I didn't put it there 15:19:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what you get for using a standard format... 15:26:18 * PeterT should learn to use rm -Rfv 15:26:19 <Ammler> PeterT: is that ipv7? 15:26:26 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@251.69.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: ...] 15:26:27 <PeterT> No 15:27:23 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19184 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Return succeeded/failed command from CheckIfIndustryTilesAreFree(). 15:27:30 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:27 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@nas46-24.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Ammler: hey, people received mails like that, billing them for downloads they made with that IP ;) 15:38:16 *** neli [micha@88.159.215.98] has joined #openttd 15:52:57 * andythenorth is sleepy 15:58:03 <andythenorth> anything interesting happening? 15:58:41 <PeterT> andythenorth: no 16:00:11 * Gar`zzz goes to sleep now 16:01:05 <PeterT> Good night 16:01:12 <PeterT> even though it's only 11:00Am 16:01:38 <Alberth> PeterT: you are in the wrong time zone. 16:08:13 *** Gar`zzz [~zombiepug@124.189.247.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:08:21 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@nas46-24.york.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:10:55 *** Gargami [~zombiepug@124.189.247.49] has joined #openttd 16:12:00 *** planetmaker is now known as DevServer 16:12:40 *** DevServer is now known as planetmaker 16:19:34 *** planetmaker is now known as Tycoon 16:20:02 *** Tycoon is now known as planetmaker 16:32:46 <Alberth> trying a few different jobs ? 16:33:32 <Eddi|zuHause> making planets all day long might get boring after a while... 16:34:22 <planetmaker> he. Sorry 16:35:06 <planetmaker> server issues :-) 16:35:26 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 16:37:02 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-26-252-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:39:48 *** aber [~Adium@gb049.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de] has joined #openttd 16:40:01 <__ln__> http://parovoz.com/newgallery/pg_view.php?ID=115022 16:42:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-58-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:42:27 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 16:44:17 <ashb> wow. thats quite some train 16:47:48 <planetmaker> nice train :-) 16:55:03 *** kd5pbo [~kd5pbo@adsl-99-162-205-169.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:57:20 <PeterT> Is there any reason that a file might fail to be deleted? 16:57:32 <ashb> many. 16:57:35 <PeterT> "<PeterT> !rcon rm test.sav 16:57:35 <PeterT> <Server> PeterT: test.sav: Failed to delete file" 16:57:52 <ashb> no perms, or the file is open on windows, or it doesn't actualyl exist 17:01:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19185 /trunk/src/ (industry_cmd.cpp newgrf_industries.cpp newgrf_industries.h): -Codechange: Return succeeded or failed CommandCost from CheckIfCallBackAllowsCreation(). 17:01:39 <aber> sudo rm -rf :) 17:01:56 <PeterT> recursive? no 17:02:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19186 /trunk/src/terraform_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: Remove use of _error_message from CmdLevelLand(). 17:02:57 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:48ad:8492:14b3:2840] has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 17:03:08 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:48ad:8492:14b3:2840] has joined #openttd 17:03:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:04:19 <Ammler> PeterT: might not be possible with rcon 17:05:06 <PeterT> <Jolteon> the openttd user has no permission to delete anything. 17:05:14 <PeterT> There is my problem 17:05:40 <Ammler> no 17:05:50 <Alberth> simply save a more useful game over it 17:06:04 <Ammler> doesn't work here either 17:07:07 <Ammler> no rcon issue, !rcon of ap does access the console directly 17:08:41 *** Goulp [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:47 * andythenorth awards himself a cup of tea 17:10:02 *** Muxy is now known as Guest48 17:10:02 *** Goulp is now known as Muxy 17:10:31 <Ammler> rm looks like obsolete/deprecated 17:11:20 *** gathers [~gathers@c80-216-140-48.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 17:11:50 <Ammler> PeterT: if you have write access, you usually also are able to remove those things 17:11:56 <Ammler> else it is quite a silly setup 17:12:36 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc21a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:42 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 17:12:43 <PeterT> Here's the code that deals with rm http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/file/147d87acc2b6/src/console_cmds.cpp#l259 17:13:26 <Ammler> PeterT: write a custom command to delete files 17:13:46 <Zuu> A cup of tea sounds like a good idea.I have only had one cup today. (usually I'll have 3-5 cups of coffe/tea / day) 17:13:47 <PeterT> a script? 17:14:56 *** Guest48 [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:01 <Ammler> you still don't know what a custom command in AP+ is? 17:15:44 <PeterT> No :S 17:27:44 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:13 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@160.156.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:02 <PeterT> Why is strgen compiled for macosx when mac builds have been canceled? 17:31:08 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de77.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:49 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:35:06 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB319.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D81F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:40:52 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@93-80-129-159.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:46:22 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-252-167.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:32 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 17:50:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D81F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:52:05 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:52:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: yexo * r19187 /trunk/src/autoreplace_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#3634]: the vehicle info in the autoreplace gui was drawn even when the window was shaded 18:05:12 *** [Jako] [~lahti7@fd86.netikka.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:32 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 18:41:10 <PeterT> is there a way to move all ungrouped vehicles to a group? 18:43:21 *** DJNekkid [~thomas@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r19188 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: arabic_egypt - 1 changes by kasakg 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by arnau 18:45:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: esperanto - 59 changes by Ailanto 18:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 8 changes by IPG 18:45:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: luxembourgish - 2 changes by Phreeze 18:46:14 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8de77.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:50 * PeterT kicks CIA-1 18:46:50 <CIA-1> ow 18:47:07 * PeterT rubs CIA-34's tummy 18:47:11 * PeterT rubs CIA-1s tummy 18:47:14 * PeterT rubs CIA-1's tummy 18:47:14 <CIA-1> *purr* 18:47:53 <DJNekkid> i've found yet another "bug" with the new railtypes 18:49:21 <DJNekkid> discribed in the new railtype thread in the dev section on the tt-forums 18:51:28 <ccfreak2k> I had a dream that I mentioned something about DOS graphics in here. 18:51:34 <ccfreak2k> And you guys kept kicking me out. 18:51:46 <ccfreak2k> Linking to the FAQ/wiki/whatever. 18:51:51 <ccfreak2k> I think it was Eddi|zuHause. 18:52:47 <Eddi|zuHause> what? 18:53:05 *** _Muddy is now known as Muddy 18:53:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i kicked you in your dreams? 18:53:20 <Eddi|zuHause> man, i don't want to know about that stuff... 18:53:54 <DJNekkid> ehm, nevermind that that comment from me... 18:54:17 <ccfreak2k> It's too late. 18:54:21 <ccfreak2k> You already know. 18:54:25 <ccfreak2k> It is impossible to unknow. 18:55:44 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 18:59:52 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:06:44 <Frankr> Does anybody here know the use of the CB36 Cost property, for a newgrf? 19:07:20 <DaleStan> What are you doing now? 19:07:57 <DaleStan> And what unexpected behaviour are you seeing? 19:08:02 *** Hackykid [~quassel@86.85.232.104] has joined #openttd 19:08:02 <Frankr> well i want to see whether i can attribute this cost property to a specific sprite 19:08:38 <Frankr> i was wondering what it was used for 19:08:51 <Frankr> or if it just doesn't have a use 19:09:37 <Yexo> the cost is only used when the vehicle is bought, so why would you want to change it later? 19:09:40 <DaleStan> You can't attribute a property to a sprite. In NFO, you can't attribute anything to anything, in fact. 19:09:51 <Yexo> in other words, what does it have to do with a specific sprite? 19:10:14 <DaleStan> But even if you'd used the correct verb: You can't set a property for a sprite. 19:10:20 <Frankr> well we want to put in a kind of landing fee charge for aircraft 19:10:38 <Yexo> you can't do that with a newgrf 19:10:42 <DaleStan> Then CB 36 is not your friend. 19:11:27 <Frankr> ok thanks guys 19:11:42 <Frankr> Is there no point in the Cost property then? 19:11:49 <DJNekkid> there is 19:11:53 <DaleStan> It has a point, that's just not it. 19:11:59 <Yexo> of course there is, it's the price you have to pay for the vehicle to buy it 19:12:01 <DJNekkid> it can change over years for example 19:12:19 <Frankr> ah that would make sense 19:12:27 <DJNekkid> or it can change during "exclusive testing" 19:12:30 <DaleStan> Just because it doesn't do what you want (or what you think it does) doesn't mean it doesn't do anything. 19:12:36 <Frankr> i know Yexo i just wondered why you would have a cb for it 19:12:40 <DaleStan> There are very few things in NFO that have no point. 19:12:45 <Yexo> what you could do it give a plane a very high running cost while landing 19:13:17 <Frankr> that is an area i have looked into 19:13:25 <Frankr> but it would get a bit stupid 19:14:43 <Frankr> say for example people have the plane speed rightly so on 1/1 then the landing will be one tick, if we want the fee to be £30k then we are at 12mill 19:15:11 <Frankr> thanks anyway guys for your help 19:16:48 <DJNekkid> word size running costs would be nice :P 19:17:10 <Frankr> :) 19:19:23 <ccfreak2k> Interesting. 19:19:56 *** Matthew [~chatzilla@bas4-oshawa95-2925046726.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 19:19:59 <ccfreak2k> Has anyone come up with a patch to allow competetor vehicles to stop at your stations for a fee per vehicle? 19:20:16 <Matthew> i dont know 19:20:18 <Yexo> yes 19:20:21 <Matthew> oh? 19:20:24 <Yexo> it's called infrastructure sharing 19:20:34 *** Matthew is now known as Guest60 19:20:44 *** Guest60 is now known as Nekomaster 19:21:10 <Nekomaster> hmm, but IsS doesn't allow you to connect your networks to competitors 19:21:24 <Yexo> it does 19:21:31 <Nekomaster> I tried 19:21:38 <Nekomaster> IsS 2.1 19:21:42 <Yexo> then you must've forgot to enable the settings or so 19:21:52 <Nekomaster> I was playing on a ISS server 19:21:58 <Nekomaster> with the most recet ISS version 19:22:23 <planetmaker> The ISS is controlled from Houston, Texas. 19:22:29 <Nekomaster> ? 19:22:37 <Nekomaster> lol 19:22:48 <Nekomaster> International Space station now has email 19:22:52 <lennard> heh, openttd on the internation space station 19:22:52 <lennard> that'd be the da 19:22:52 <lennard> y 19:23:07 <Nekomaster> i bet someone already has 19:23:16 <lennard> also, gprs sucks when typing over ssh :P 19:23:20 <planetmaker> I bet they don't 19:23:29 <Nekomaster> how do you know? 19:23:35 <Nekomaster> they have computers 19:23:36 <lennard> they get to look down on the world irl 19:23:37 <planetmaker> Time and resources cost way more than you probably think 19:23:37 <Nekomaster> internet 19:23:53 <planetmaker> Nekomaster: yes, I DO know. 19:23:57 <Nekomaster> : \ 19:24:01 <Nekomaster> Are you on the ISS? 19:24:12 <Hirundo> Yes, his planet factory is there 19:24:17 <planetmaker> And I know that is a problem to get a simple uplink to the ISS for WORK purposes 19:24:17 <Nekomaster> lol 19:24:26 <ccfreak2k> They finally have e-mail up there? 19:24:30 <Nekomaster> yeah 19:24:38 <Nekomaster> there was a thing on google news a few weeks back 19:25:14 <Nekomaster> before they'ed have to get the guys on the ground to deal with email for them 19:25:36 <PeterT> ccfreak2k: It's called IS, and we have a server at #jonty, and #openttdcoop.dev 19:25:41 <PeterT> ccfreak2k: Working !dl commands, too 19:25:51 <ccfreak2k> I don't know what !dl is. 19:25:56 <PeterT> !download 19:25:56 *** PeterT was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [Wrong channel. Retry in #openttdcoop.] 19:25:57 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:02 <PeterT> Shit 19:26:09 <ccfreak2k> Huh huh huh/ 19:26:26 <planetmaker> :-D 19:26:26 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest61 19:26:26 *** DaleStan [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:26:35 <PeterT> ccfreak2k: Just join either #jonty, or #openttdcoop.dev, then type "!download" to get IS binaries 19:26:41 <PeterT> then you can join the server 19:29:17 <Nekomaster> what the hell? 19:29:32 <Nekomaster> why was peter just booted? 19:29:47 <Yexo> Nekomaster: how hard is it to read the kick message? 19:29:59 <Nekomaster> oh 19:30:00 <Nekomaster> sorry 19:31:55 <Nekomaster> So, anyone here that has free time that can code a small, 2 train grf? 19:32:08 <Nekomaster> well, 2 loco and 2 Passenger cars 19:32:13 <PeterT> You 19:32:17 <Nekomaster> I can't 19:32:29 <DaleStan> I'll direct you to my price list, posted somewhere on the forums. 19:32:33 <Nekomaster> : | 19:32:39 *** Guest61 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:33:12 <Nekomaster> I don't know how many times i've told people, but I can't code any programing language, its just too much for me, I can sprite, but not code 19:33:41 <Nekomaster> and its only a simple set, just to update my QR Tilt Train Set 19:34:36 * andythenorth meh 19:34:48 <Nekomaster> : \ 19:34:57 <andythenorth> Nekomaster: that wasn't a "meh" at you 19:35:13 <andythenorth> it was 'meh' at underground suggested yet again. 19:35:23 <Nekomaster> lol 19:35:48 <Nekomaster> thats why we need to try and do street running railways, it'll be some work but it'll probably be easier to do 19:36:19 <Nekomaster> Street running rails eliminates the need for underground view 19:36:40 <Nekomaster> well, not fully 19:36:50 <Nekomaster> but for running railways in cities it helps 19:37:47 <andythenorth> Nekomaster: that one's not going to happen :) 19:37:54 <Nekomaster> Why not? 19:37:57 <andythenorth> I know it would be cool, but it's too hard 19:38:07 <Yexo> <Nekomaster> thats why we need to try and do street running railways, it'll be some work but it'll probably be easier to do <- it won't be any easier 19:38:09 <Nekomaster> hasn't alot of other things? 19:38:15 <andythenorth> road vehicles don't really have much in the way of the collision detection code 19:38:23 <Yexo> there is not enough room in the map array for that, so it'll be as hard as underground railways 19:38:31 <Nekomaster> fine, what ever 19:38:50 <Nekomaster> 1 lest realistic thing to think about 19:39:01 <Nekomaster> *less 19:39:02 <andythenorth> it would be way too easy to deadlock a whole city / rail system because the code for street running can't move vehicles out of the way 19:39:11 <andythenorth> but....I think I've just 'solved' underground 19:39:15 <Nekomaster> how? 19:39:17 <andythenorth> I need RoadTypes though 19:39:24 <Nekomaster> hmm... 19:39:28 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:31 <andythenorth> hmmm....who was working on that 19:39:40 <Nekomaster> IDK 19:39:50 <PeterT> peter1138: 19:39:55 <PeterT> was working on it ^ 19:40:06 <Nekomaster> yeah, I think there was a peter on it 19:40:13 <andythenorth> All underground needs is a road type. The trains can be invisible, the tracks are invisible, all that's needed are stairway entrances to the subway 19:40:23 <Nekomaster> yeah 19:40:36 <andythenorth> there will be some interesting side effects on other RVs though 19:40:54 <Nekomaster> but then wouldn't we have to make the roads have diagonals too"? 19:41:15 <andythenorth> it would basically just be invisible trams. Which could be 'underground' 19:41:15 <Nekomaster> since a one tile turn is unrealistic even for subways 19:41:22 <PeterT> <DaleStan>I'll direct you to my price list, posted somewhere on the forums. <-- http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=821186#p821186 19:43:21 <Nekomaster> those are unrealistic prices 19:44:20 <PeterT> don't mention realism in front of Belugas! 19:44:27 <Nekomaster> why? 19:44:50 <PeterT> also, is hardly unreasonable for doing work that no one wants 19:44:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see why these prices would be unrealistic 19:44:56 <Frankr> lol 19:44:59 <Frankr> 0 19:45:08 <Nekomaster> oh, well I only saw like over 100 per hour 19:45:21 <andythenorth> what's wrong with that? 19:45:32 <Eddi|zuHause> really, i don't see that being unrealistic 19:45:33 <andythenorth> that's reasonable for coding 19:45:53 <Nekomaster> no programmer for something this small would get paid that much per hour 19:46:02 <Nekomaster> maybe 50 USD per hour 19:46:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you go at this from the wrong side 19:46:17 <Nekomaster> but 100-200, thats unrealistic 19:46:35 <planetmaker> not at all 19:46:37 <Eddi|zuHause> the price for doing work is not only the wage that comes out at the other end 19:47:26 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, the hourly rate is not really what counts... what counts is the amount of previous knowledge that goes into the work 19:48:02 <Eddi|zuHause> also, a mentor of mine once said: "the price is not based on the work that it takes, but on what the client is willing to pay for" 19:48:18 <Nekomaster> meh... 19:48:20 <Nekomaster> what ever 19:48:59 <Eddi|zuHause> so you overcharge clients for the "easy" features, while you spend actual work on the strategic core 19:49:05 <planetmaker> of course. If only the amount of actual work would count, every person would get the same per hour. 19:49:25 <planetmaker> But edudation and personal value for the client paying is what make the prices 19:49:54 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: ragzid] 19:50:26 <planetmaker> but I like this line from the posting: "Locate the existing implementation: USD 150 per hour, three hour minimum." 19:50:51 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:51 *** DaleStan is now known as Guest65 19:50:51 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 19:51:25 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: that's what i said, the "easy" (meaing "boring") things are heavily overcharged for 19:51:55 <planetmaker> :-) 19:52:27 <Eddi|zuHause> so you get room for making the "interesting" (but less lucrative/less easy to sell) stuff 19:53:09 <planetmaker> :-) yeah. That's how it works. Makes interesting work to actually work out such work offers. 19:53:34 <planetmaker> How much can I actually charge for A without it being "unrealistic" and so on. 19:53:39 <Yexo> DaleStan: are you already working on nforenum support for newgrf railtypes (or do you know that someone else is already working on it)? 19:54:37 <jordi> catcodec is now in Debian 19:54:45 <planetmaker> \o/ 19:57:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:58:16 *** Guest65 [~Dale@c-24-12-4-37.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:13 <Eddi|zuHause> so, how do i decode what my cat says? 19:59:32 <Frankr> lol 19:59:37 <Nekomaster> lol 19:59:55 <Eddi|zuHause> wait... that's what the program does, right? 20:00:52 <Nekomaster> Is there any program that converts a regular wave into one that matchs the bit rate, bit depth, and freq. of the waves in the original sample.cat? 20:01:11 <DaleStan> Nekomaster: Yes. 20:01:26 * Alberth was thinking about categories of TeX 20:01:27 <Nekomaster> Is it catcodec? or a differnt program? 20:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause> Nekomaster: yes. 20:01:45 <Nekomaster> yes to wat? 20:01:46 <DaleStan> Also, RTFReadme. 20:02:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it's catcodec or a different program... 20:02:12 *** ChoHag [~mking@109-170-148-202.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:20 <Nekomaster> nice, very helpful :| 20:02:24 <Eddi|zuHause> why do people have so big problems with simple logic?!? 20:02:43 <Nekomaster> Why do people have problems awnsering simple questions? 20:03:10 <Frankr> lol 20:03:28 <DaleStan> We don't. We answer the question you asked. Why do people have problems asking the question they want answered? 20:03:47 <Nekomaster> Why do people have to be an ass about it? 20:03:50 <DaleStan> Yexo: I'm essentially not working on it now, as I'm pretty sure adding feature 10 support will hide the crash DJ found. I'm also not aware of anyone else working on it. 20:04:05 *** Nekomaster [~chatzilla@bas4-oshawa95-2925046726.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 20:04:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yay, we won. 20:04:27 <Yexo> adding feature 10 support will give the same crash with feature 11 20:04:42 <Yexo> I was able to reproduce that crash before 20:04:43 <PeterT> Nekomaster: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=catcodec+openttd 20:04:56 <Frankr> petert has left 20:05:05 <PeterT> Right... 20:05:10 <DaleStan> ITYM "Nekomaster". 20:06:04 <Frankr> or petert he has left actually 20:06:19 <PeterT> Ok 20:06:21 <PeterT> Got that 20:07:59 *** Nekomaster [~chatzilla@bas4-oshawa95-2925046726.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 20:08:32 <Nekomaster> back... 20:08:44 <PeterT> Nekomaster: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=catcodec+openttd 20:08:57 <Nekomaster> : \ 20:09:08 <Nekomaster> You know I really hate lmgtfy 20:09:16 <PeterT> Do I know that? 20:09:38 <Nekomaster> its not like you could just say "Catcodec will covert sounds" 20:10:27 <Yexo> its not like you could search yourself before asking 20:11:33 <Nekomaster> *sigh* here we go again, simple question, simple awnsers, how hard is that? Q "What can convert sound to sample.cat format?" A " Catcodec" 20:11:43 <Nekomaster> Is something like that so hard? 20:12:04 <Yexo> yes, as I have no idea what catcoded can do exactly 20:13:11 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@139.149.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #openttd 20:13:18 <Nekomaster> Nor do I 20:13:54 <Yexo> for this one time then: http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/extra/catcodec.hg/file/tip/README#l56 20:14:05 <Nekomaster> I did once make a newsfx pack but it contained material that i did not own nor could I get explicit permission from the author of the sounds 20:14:34 <DaleStan> <Yexo> yes, as I have no idea what catcoded can do exactly <Nekomaster> Nor do I<-- Which is why you ask someone who knows. i.e. Not us. 20:14:59 <DaleStan> The person who wrote TFM and TFReadme is a good guess. 20:15:00 <Nekomaster> Then who does, DaleStan ? 20:15:15 <DaleStan> We don't know that either. Ask someone who does. 20:15:16 <DaleStan> The person who wrote TFM and TFReadme is a good guess. 20:15:22 <Nekomaster> : \ 20:15:49 <Nekomaster> Rubidium appers to be the author of the readme 20:17:41 <Nekomaster> Anyways, so im guessing no one has free time that can code or doesn't feel like doing a bit of work for maybe 10-20 minutes for a grf 20:18:33 <PeterT> <DaleStan> Which is why you ask someone who knows. i.e. Not us. <-- Eg Google 20:19:21 <PeterT> I can't say this from experience, but I think coding a GRF takes more than 20 minutes 20:19:22 <Nekomaster> Google wont help, Uh, google, wheres someone that can code nfo for someone who can't do it (google) uh..... idk... 20:19:33 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@160.156.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:40 <Nekomaster> thats probably for larger sets 20:19:46 <Frankr> Neko have you even tried 20:19:50 <Nekomaster> Yes 20:20:07 <Nekomaster> its too much for me, I got a headache trying to understand newgrf nfo coding 20:20:17 <Nekomaster> the numbers dont make sense to me 20:20:43 <DaleStan> How long did you spend on getting the realsprites right? That alone takes about a minute each. 20:20:49 <PeterT> That is why you read all of the wiki, and not just some of it 20:20:51 <Nekomaster> Anyways, all the QR TT set is right now is 1 DMU, and 1 EMU, plus their corrisponding passenger cars 20:21:21 <Nekomaster> So, in total 4 Vehicles 20:21:23 <DaleStan> So, 32 sprites minimum, meaning approximately 32 minutes just for the real sprites. 20:21:33 <Frankr> yh 20:21:35 <Nekomaster> theres only 4 sprites for the pax cars 20:21:44 <Nekomaster> and what do you mean for real sprites? 20:21:52 <Nekomaster> I already drew up the sprites 20:21:54 <andythenorth> or there's grfmaker 20:22:09 <DaleStan> The lines in the NFO what aint pseudosprites. 20:22:17 <Nekomaster> Doesn't work for me, it keeps complaining about "Range Check" errors 20:22:19 <DaleStan> LMGTFY 20:22:23 <Nekomaster> No 20:22:51 <DaleStan> Ah. Blessed silence. 20:22:59 <Nekomaster> What ever 20:23:06 <PeterT> DaleStan: You broke it 20:23:12 <Frankr> lol 20:23:18 <Nekomaster> and you made it worse petert 20:23:22 <peter1138> BAH 20:23:29 <peter1138> why is ssh not working? D: 20:23:33 *** roelmb [~roelyves@91.176.229.224] has joined #openttd 20:23:41 *** roelmb [~roelyves@91.176.229.224] has left #openttd [] 20:23:44 <DaleStan> OK then. Blessed not-listening-to-a-certain-idiot-blather. 20:23:57 *** Roelmb [~roelyves@91.176.229.224] has joined #openttd 20:24:00 <DaleStan> /ignore is my friend. 20:24:19 <Eddi|zuHause> people do occasionally find that helpful, indeed ;) 20:24:20 *** Roelmb [~roelyves@91.176.229.224] has left #openttd [] 20:24:30 <PeterT> DaleStan: Hehe, :-) 20:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, the forum's ignore function is useless... 20:25:31 <DaleStan> It is indeed less useful than it could be. 20:25:32 <peter1138> DaleStan, oddly enough, it looks like you were having a conversation with yourself... 20:26:11 <DaleStan> I do that occasionally. 20:26:17 <Nekomaster> Sure... 20:26:28 <Eddi|zuHause> nothing to see here... move along... 20:26:32 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:42 <DaleStan> ... I mean ... um ... 20:26:52 <Nekomaster> Uh.... crap.... Nothing to see here folks..... 20:27:53 <Eddi|zuHause> DaleStan: you need to watch what your alter egos write :p 20:27:55 <peter1138> oh, how i love thee, giant jacket potato 20:27:58 <peter1138> 2 hours to cook, 5 minutes to eat 20:28:12 <Nekomaster> WTF 20:28:17 <Nekomaster> Lol 20:29:03 <Frankr> lol peter 20:29:14 <Frankr> well worth the wait? 20:29:16 <peter1138> not particularly environmentally friendly, hehe 20:29:18 <peter1138> oh yes 20:29:56 <Frankr> :) 20:30:00 <andythenorth> anyone object to new cargo class LMBR for Lumber? Due to some disagreements with ECS... 20:30:03 <andythenorth> No? great 20:30:07 <andythenorth> I'll get on with it then 20:30:13 <Nekomaster> I don't mind 20:30:26 <planetmaker> actually... does there exist means to convert mp3 or ogg into midi? 20:30:41 <andythenorth> Nekomaster as well you shouldn't, given that you don't (yet) code vehicle grfs (but you might!) 20:31:03 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: why a new one? 20:31:15 *** Chillosophy^ [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:31:17 <andythenorth> George doesn't want us using WDPR for lumber 20:31:24 <Nekomaster> Well, i agree with coding it that way, only though , as long as lumber doesnt end up in the wrong place 20:31:31 <andythenorth> I think I know why 20:31:43 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: and what does PBI use? 20:31:45 <Nekomaster> well, then again, maybe after 1980 lumber could end up in hoppers 20:31:53 <George> andythenorth: Me? 20:31:57 <andythenorth> I'm guessing WDPR can also be sawdust, wood chips etc which are bulk. In FIRS, lumber is not bulk 20:32:20 <andythenorth> George - think so...it was a long time ago, we haven't made the change to FIRS yet 20:32:24 <andythenorth> maybe not though :o 20:32:29 <George> I have nothing against WDPR for lumber as long as the cargo class is the same 20:33:06 <andythenorth> Well FIRS devs want WDPR to be piece goods only, which is different to ECS definition, so I guess we use a new label :) 20:33:07 <Nekomaster> IRL wood gets carried to the saw mill on flat cars, wether its traditional or pulp wood, then it can be cut and the saw dust\wood chips can be sent to a paper mill 20:33:23 <George> andythenorth: In that case - yes 20:33:31 <andythenorth> George: agreed :) 20:33:43 <DaleStan> planetmaker: Not easily. MIDI is "play this note on this instrument for this long"; MP3/OGG is "send this voltage to the speakers at this time". 20:34:28 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: problem with inventing a new label is always vehicle set support 20:34:32 *** snorre [~snorre@c692BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 20:34:41 <andythenorth> PBI uses WDPR 20:34:44 <andythenorth> hmm 20:34:54 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: only for those silly sets which ignore cargo classes 20:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> is it really that problematic when saw mill products get thrown into bulk wagons? 20:35:15 <andythenorth> dunno....yes 20:35:16 <George> Eddi|zuHause: Using new label is amaller problem than different classes for one label 20:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: but you can't decide the graphics only based on cargo class 20:35:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19189 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: CheckTrackCombination() returns a CommandCost. 20:35:27 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: do you transport 2x4s in a hopper? 20:35:32 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: the problem is the xor-ness of a certain refitmask 20:35:52 * PeterT hugs CIA-1 20:35:52 * CIA-1 hugs PeterT 20:36:02 <Eddi|zuHause> PeterT: get a room... 20:36:09 <frosch123> someone got a friend 20:36:10 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I'm just trying to fix bugs :| 20:36:15 <Nekomaster> Also, do you think that a factory can turn chips into SOLID wood for quality furniture, though they could turn it into partical\chip board 20:36:18 * PeterT kills CIA-1 20:36:18 * CIA-1 dies 20:36:22 <PeterT> problem solved 20:36:24 <andythenorth> how do I ignore Nekomaster for a bit? 20:36:29 <Nekomaster> : ( 20:36:39 <andythenorth> lmgtfm 20:36:51 <planetmaker> DaleStan: yeah, I know. That's my / the problem 20:36:51 <Eddi|zuHause> /ignore Nekomaster 20:37:09 <Nekomaster> : | 20:37:11 *** Chillosophy [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:22 <andythenorth> ok (sorry Nekomaster, you're noisy ) 20:37:31 <Nekomaster> Am I really that annoying that every one has to be hostile to me? 20:38:26 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: really, when i weigh the pros and cons of introducing a new cargo label, the cons win 20:38:35 <andythenorth> I would rather not either 20:39:01 <andythenorth> I think we'll just make FIRS consistent with ECS 20:39:08 <andythenorth> and see what happens 20:39:12 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=44248 <- found the topic 20:40:41 * planetmaker also prefers to rather re-use existing cargo labels than introducing new ones. 20:41:04 * andythenorth agrees 20:41:12 <frosch123> except there is nothing worse than using different classes for the same label 20:41:25 <andythenorth> frosch123: that also sucks 20:41:49 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 20:41:58 <Eddi|zuHause> if i were to decide, i would just live with the cargo being carried in the "wrong" wagons... 20:42:15 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: that's nice for you, you don't get the bug reports :P 20:43:19 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it's not any different as when someone carries "Food (Milk)" in tank wagons from a fish processing plant... 20:43:27 *** IPG [~chatzilla@daisu.martos.bme.hu] has joined #openttd 20:43:41 <andythenorth> no, it is 20:44:00 <frosch123> or fruit in self-discharging hoppers 20:44:01 <andythenorth> they are clearly carrying....hmm...actually you're right :) 20:44:09 <DJNekkid> peter1138: (or any others) suggestion on Rail Types: if Action0 property 10 is set, then use the "standard" catenary build menu items as well (unless new ones are provided) 20:44:49 <Nekomaster> Well I prefer Wood being on flat beds or gondolas and lumber\wood products being on flatbeds, centerbeams, hoppers or gondolas. 20:46:04 * andythenorth adjusts WDPR in FIRS: sky doesn't fall in 20:46:05 <Nekomaster> Hmm, does paper pulp ever get transported as a cargo? 20:46:43 <Nekomaster> *wood pulp 20:47:08 <planetmaker> [21:41] <frosch123> except there is nothing worse than using different classes for the same label <-- that's, of course, assumed with "re-using existing cargo labels" 20:47:37 <planetmaker> otherwise it doesn't make sense and has similarily weired effects as ISR's re-order or station sprites. Which I still swear at. 20:48:55 <Yexo> DaleStan: I need this patch to be able to compile nforenum on cygwin 20:48:57 * andythenorth does define FRVG as a new label. Sky doesn't fall in 20:49:11 <Yexo> g++ --version returns: g++ (GCC) 4.3.4 20090804 (release) 1 20:50:00 <Yexo> but with this patch it does link to cygwin1.dll 20:50:31 *** PeterT_ [~LG5545@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:42 *** PeterT_ [~LG5545@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 20:51:14 *** PeterT_ [~LG5545@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:55:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: alberth * r19190 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt rail_cmd.cpp): -Add: Improve error message with track building when signals are in the way. 20:56:45 <PeterT> nooo why did you add that? 20:56:54 <Nekomaster> I think that "Impossible track combination" was good enough 20:57:23 <peter1138> DJNekkid, hmm, maybe... dunno... post it in the thread 20:58:17 * planetmaker translates 21:02:36 *** PeterT_ [~LG5545@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... the 2.0 thread is useless... people are only short sighted as in "include XYZ patch", nothing remotely visionary 21:02:52 <Eddi|zuHause> except maybe the underground bit 21:03:21 <PeterT> It is really just a smaller version of the OpenTTD Suggestions forum 21:05:07 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:05:24 * planetmaker agrees with Eddi|zuHause 21:05:46 * andythenorth has been thinking of something for 2.0 21:05:59 <Nekomaster> what, are people already asking for a 2.0? 21:06:32 <PeterT> planning goals for 2.0 21:06:38 <Nekomaster> ahh 21:07:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:08:03 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:21 *** PeterT_ [~Peter@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:09:23 * andythenorth likes the suggestion by frosch123 about removing xor for cargo classes: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=806241#p806241 21:09:44 <frosch123> it was waiting for a test grf :p 21:11:49 <planetmaker> he... what should the grf look like, frosch123 ? 21:12:25 <frosch123> no idea, i would have to read the topic myself again 21:13:11 <planetmaker> :-P 21:13:38 <andythenorth> I am reading it and trying to understand, but my brain is fried. I learn about bits, and I forget about bits. 21:13:39 <planetmaker> as I read it, any vehicle newgrf *could* serve which deals with some cargos explicitly 21:14:25 <planetmaker> but... difficult with all those (a and not b) xor c 21:14:34 <planetmaker> thrown on top of a cargo translation table 21:14:51 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:20 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 21:16:27 <frosch123> planetmaker: actually i would expect a testgrf to use the callback 21:16:28 *** Nekomaster [~chatzilla@bas4-oshawa95-2925046726.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 21:16:46 <frosch123> (though 14E is likely already used nowadays) 21:18:18 <andythenorth> I could have a go at that some time, but not in the next few weeks 21:18:24 * andythenorth is likely to forget 21:19:44 <planetmaker> he... I didn't notice that there was a test implementation and a callback involved. Must be in another than the linked posting ;-) 21:20:24 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:20:25 <frosch123> so you read how it is for years? 21:20:44 <Zuu> Buying a train ticket is like a lottery. Shall you buy a too early ticket and hope that the train will be late or buy one which is at the time you want to departure? :-p 21:22:40 <Zuu> Shall you buy a high-speed train ticket and hope that that track is less delayed than the track for the slow-trains? etc. :-) 21:23:31 *** PeterT|BNC [~PeterT@64.120.14.203] has joined #openttd 21:23:40 <Xaroth> now there's two... 21:24:37 <PeterT> hehe, well 21:25:01 <gr00vy> hiho 21:25:10 <gr00vy> i need some help with a mainline i built 21:25:18 <gr00vy> 2 rails for each direction 21:25:20 <PeterT> sure, gr00vy 21:25:30 <gr00vy> but only one rail is preferred 21:25:42 <gr00vy> the 2nd is nearly never used 21:25:48 <gr00vy> and i don't know why 21:26:05 <gr00vy> any connection to the mainline is built so trains can choose which track to use 21:26:40 <Zuu> Perhaps they have different pentalty to the pathfinder? 21:27:19 <Zuu> The one not used probably have higher penalty than the other even if there is many red signals on the used one. 21:31:39 *** PeterT|BNC [~PeterT@64.120.14.203] has left #openttd [] 21:34:45 *** Rhamphoryncus [~rhamph@d198-53-213-246.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Rhamphoryncus] 21:35:01 *** PeterT|BNC [~PeterT@64.120.14.203] has joined #openttd 21:39:21 *** Chillosophy^ [~fu@195-241-120-76.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 21:40:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc6f0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:33 <gr00vy> what causes penalty? 21:43:44 <Zuu> turns, hills, (red) signals, stations 21:44:00 <Zuu> backside of path-signals. 21:44:29 <Zuu> Even straight track gives a small penalty. 21:45:01 <Zuu> So that a shorter track will give lower penalty if everything else is the same. 21:45:09 <Zuu> Good night 21:45:12 *** Zuu [~Zuu@c-f5f9e253.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:46:23 *** PeterT [~Peter@c-65-96-204-251.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Goodbye] 21:48:47 <gr00vy> thx 21:51:03 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 21:51:22 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 21:52:57 *** PeterT|BNC is now known as PeterT 21:53:06 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@212-149-205-119.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:03:12 *** Combuster [~eternal@cust-03-55bf402e.adsl.scarlet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:21 *** kyzz [473fb079@webchat.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:04:05 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-17-162.A149.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 22:23:49 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 22:29:26 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 22:40:41 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 22:47:18 *** fonsinchen [~alve@brln-4dbc21a7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:57 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@139.149.88-79.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:27 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 23:00:25 *** WizzleBLincoln [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-48-216.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:00:57 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 23:01:14 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-48-216.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:57 *** WizzleBLincoln [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-48-216.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 23:05:38 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-74-109-48-216.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:07:22 *** ragzid [~ragzid@173-231-207-85.jizmorava.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has quit [Quit: ragzid] 23:09:36 *** Frankr [~chatzilla@nas46-24.york.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:52 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.8/20100202165920]] 23:14:03 *** kyzz [473fb079@webchat.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:16:39 *** Bluelight [~Ivan@9.80-202-82.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 23:20:05 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AFA156.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:33 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB319.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... 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