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00:03:35 *** ajmiles2 [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:18 *** OwenS is now known as owens 00:21:41 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:46 <Eddi|zuHause> damn, after a day and a half, i'm still 130MB short... 00:29:06 <PeterT> short of what, Eddi|zuHause> 00:29:31 <Eddi|zuHause> don't be so curious... 00:29:47 <PeterT> don't be so vague... 00:30:11 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 00:34:25 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:40 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 01:03:21 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-232-248.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BE61.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11:23 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:03 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 01:40:57 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DB694.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 01:41:37 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cc4f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:09 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-185-192.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:45:28 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-241-65.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 01:45:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 01:48:01 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:58:56 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:22:40 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7951:166f:f86c:6174] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:24:41 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-140-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:30:37 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-143-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:50:24 *** Mikhailjrjrsmo [~chatzilla@195.16.79.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:28 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:31:15 *** Wizzleby [locke@204-74-213-37.take2hosting.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:31:28 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r19895 /trunk/ (findversion.sh projects/determineversion.vbs): -Fix [FS#3836]: Git version detection would sometimes mistakenly identify a checkout as modified. 03:31:42 <PeterT> \o/ fonsinchen will be happy 03:40:24 *** Wizzleby [locke@204-74-213-37.take2hosting.com] has joined #openttd 03:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> __ln__: if you really expected any universal answers, you haven't understood it at all... 04:17:09 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-241-65.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:19:24 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-45-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 04:19:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 04:22:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 04:45:39 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-45-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:45:43 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:47:54 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-52-130.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 04:47:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 04:50:46 *** roboboy [~robotboy@r125-63-187-237.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:56:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77871.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:56:21 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-52-130.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76957.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:58:27 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-179-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 04:58:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 05:13:05 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-179-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:15:37 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-98-219.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 05:15:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 05:25:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r19896 /trunk/src/pathfinder/yapf/yapf_costrail.hpp: -Fix [FS#3803] (r18648): [YAPP] Inform the pathfinder as well about the fact that the backside of an one-way path signal can be a safe waiting point. 05:30:34 *** roboboy [~robotboy@r125-63-187-237.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:39:48 *** jpx_ [jpx_@e83-245-138-93.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:07:06 <__ln__> Eddi|zuHause: i didn't, but everyone being dead had been hinted about many times earlier, so that wasn't even new information. 06:07:46 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35:49 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d199096.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:36:40 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 06:42:45 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 06:58:57 *** b_jonas [~x@C3E4DFA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 07:05:24 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 07:13:15 *** Kraffslola [Kraffslola@c-adf9e253.011-100-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:20:40 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27:22 *** sailo [~simon@hyundai.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #openttd 07:29:24 <sailo> hey guys. at my university, the udp protocol is being blocked since yesterday. Since then I cannot play openttd online anymore. Does anyone konw a possibility to play it online without udp protocoll? is it possible at all or do you guys maybe know a workaround? 07:30:32 <Goulp> udp is useless for playing 07:30:55 <Goulp> if you know the server ip, use the console connect command 07:32:48 <borgfish> oh that works ? letme try 07:33:21 <Goulp> connect <hostname><#cid>:<port> 07:33:46 <Goulp> with #cid at 255 for spectate, #253 for new company 07:34:13 <borgfish> howto get console 07:34:22 <planetmaker> I doubt it works, if UDP is blocked 07:34:33 <borgfish> i will know it if you point me to console 07:34:42 <Goulp> with the connect console, udp is not used 07:35:22 <Goulp> open with the key left to the 1 on left of your keyboard 07:35:53 <borgfish> version mismatch ! sounds good. i load new version 07:36:30 <planetmaker> you don't need a new, you need the same 07:36:37 <borgfish> yes 07:37:43 <borgfish> uhm 1.01 win7 64 bit version tells me after downloading the opensfx and gfx packs: 07:37:52 <borgfish> no available language packs (invalid versions?) 07:38:59 <Goulp> lng files... 07:39:19 <borgfish> i wiped the folder and reinstalled. lets give it another try 07:40:01 <borgfish> works ! thats cool 07:40:04 <Terkhen> good morning 07:40:37 <b_jonas> .oO(all udp is blocked including dns queries?) 07:40:48 <Goulp> and you can also use the connect command while ingame in order to connect to another network server/game 07:41:13 <borgfish> sailo should give it a try :) 07:41:37 <borgfish> we have 2 firewalls and there is no proper connection tracking for udp so udp incoming is dropped 07:46:23 <borgfish> i tried such things like sockscap but they wouldnt work with my wint as expected 07:54:35 <sailo> i cannot even see online games anymore 07:54:53 <borgfish> yes you cant, the browser is udp 07:54:56 <sailo> there is only one server in the list and it says "SERVER OFFLINE" 07:54:59 <borgfish> if you knew a game you could join 07:55:13 <borgfish> but when you click the server, you see its ip and port adress 07:55:23 <borgfish> guess its the last one you played on 07:55:32 <sailo> yea, that may be 07:55:47 <borgfish> well with that ip and port you can join there 07:56:07 <Goulp> get the online server list from openttd web site 07:56:40 *** Aberro [~killen-co@c.177.181.a417.sta.adsl.cyfra.net] has joined #openttd 07:59:29 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:00:03 <Aberro> Good day to you. 08:00:03 <Aberro> I've seen few days ago some kind of automatic source downloader and compiler, which is allow to select trunks and patches. Can someone tell me where I can find it or how it's named? 08:00:28 <sailo> awesome, it works. 08:00:30 <Rubidium> IIRC buildottd 08:00:37 <sailo> thank you so much. 08:00:44 <Rubidium> however, buildottd has been broken for almost 2 years now 08:00:59 <Aberro> It doesn't work? 08:03:35 <Rubidium> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=42600 08:03:54 <Aberro> How can I compile fresh ottd build with cargodist patch? This patch have veery lot of dif files and it's tiresome to download and apply all of them. 08:03:55 <Rubidium> or you're talking about something else, but then my assumption you're using Windows is likely wrong 08:04:36 <Aberro> No, this is what I'm asking for, thank you) 08:05:13 <Rubidium> use the precompiled binaries from http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=877807#p877807 ? Those are "only" like 10 days old 08:05:50 <b_jonas> the opengfx-0.2.4.tar has a readme.txt in it that describes what tools you need to build the graphics from source, but opengfx-0.2.4-source.tar.gz doesn't have that readme in it. this seems strange. 08:06:00 <b_jonas> strange 08:06:22 <Rubidium> it does, somewhat, in the docs directory (IIRC) 08:06:36 <b_jonas> oh, I see 08:06:47 <b_jonas> tricky 08:06:48 <Aberro> Oh. Thank) Strange why I'm didn't seen it before. 08:06:59 <b_jonas> thanks 08:07:23 *** sailo [~simon@hyundai.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has left #openttd [] 08:10:45 <Aberro> Interesting, how much people working on ottd? Particularly in programming. It's awesome that so much people, which didn't even seen each other, works so organized. 08:12:05 <b_jonas> Aberro: what's more amazing to me is how civil the irc channel is 08:13:22 <theholyduck> Aberro, not used to open source much are we? 08:13:23 <Aberro> Why it must be not?) (sorry my bad english, I'm russian) 08:13:36 <Aberro> In russia?)))) 08:13:40 <Aberro> There is no need) 08:16:33 <Aberro> But, I'm using open source sometimes. I've install calculate linux on my home pc as second OS. 08:18:33 <peter1138> organised? Hehe 08:18:51 <Aberro> It's interesting because I'm beginner programmer and interest how such work can be organized. 08:18:53 <Rubidium> peter1138: perceived organisation :) 08:20:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:21:13 <b_jonas> funny, when the first AI opponent (blue) went bankrupt, the second AI changed color from green to blue 08:21:14 <valhallasw> open source is anarchy! 08:21:29 <Rubidium> lies... 08:21:41 <b_jonas> now I wonder if I can quickly use the airport spaces of the first AI 08:21:49 *** devilsadvocate_ [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:21:55 <valhallasw> just with some benevolent dictators :p 08:22:42 *** Uresu [~Wes@5ace7baa.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 08:22:50 <Aberro> Open source is philosophy. 08:22:53 <Rubidium> it's more a do-ocracy 08:24:00 <valhallasw> the amount of people do-ing is quite small compared to the amount of people using 08:24:02 <Aberro> It's like an art. People work just as they want and give their work to others. 08:25:48 <b_jonas> not always of course. sometimes they are paid to work and give their work to others. 08:26:00 <b_jonas> probably doesn't apply to openttd 08:26:17 <Aberro> Like in art) 08:27:17 <Aberro> If people like it, they may pay for it and this way to help to make it better. 08:28:53 <Aberro> If I'll make grammar mistakes, tell me about it) I'll try not to do it) 08:29:12 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:29:15 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 08:29:41 <planetmaker> you do fine 08:41:49 *** Uresu [~Wes@5ace7baa.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:46:13 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:49:16 <b_jonas> wow, this convert rail tool is great 08:49:36 <b_jonas> and it lets you convert to electric even if the square is occupied by a train 08:50:20 <b_jonas> now comes the hard part, finding the one square I somehow didn't convert 08:50:35 <Aberro> By the way, how about google wave? What developers think about it? 08:56:59 <ccfreak2k> I had completely forgotten about it. 08:57:11 *** owens is now known as OwenS 09:03:09 *** JVassie [~James@nelocat2.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:04:00 <planetmaker> b_jonas, just convert the whole map in zoomed-out mode 09:07:28 <Rubidium> Aberro: you mean, whether I want possibly confidential information sent to Google so they can profile me? 09:08:02 <__ln__> who wouldn't want that 09:10:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:13:12 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 09:13:24 *** einKarl [~einKarl@95-89-121-65-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:13:53 <Aberro> Who register with real name?)) 09:14:21 <__ln__> Giving or not giving your real name is irrelevant. 09:15:51 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2DBAC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:57 <Aberro> There is another confidential information in open source project? 09:17:46 <Aberro> Is there, i mean... 09:18:13 <Rubidium> yes, my password is confidential 09:19:08 <peter1138> what is google wave? 09:19:13 <peter1138> and why would i want to use it? 09:19:46 <Aberro> Did google want your password? Where? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Wave 09:20:30 <peter1138> http://www.xkcd.com/743/ 09:20:33 <peter1138> ^ same applies to google :p 09:20:42 <planetmaker> question: why would one want to use it, if the project itself has its own infrastructure - perfectly taylored to its needs? 09:20:45 <Aberro> I think it may be useful to organize work on project... Just want to hear your opinion. 09:22:38 <Rubidium> why migrate to something new when the current method works very well? 09:23:00 <planetmaker> more so: out-sourcing it to servers which are not under your control 09:23:07 <Rubidium> and has been for half a decade 09:23:54 <Aberro> I see. 09:24:30 <Rubidium> (and I dislike Google's terms of service) 09:25:03 <Aberro> Why? 09:26:55 <planetmaker> read them 09:28:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:43 <Aberro> Can you tell me your opinion?) 09:29:20 <Rubidium> they can change them and you accept them by using their services. On its own not that bad, but if you intend to use e.g. gmail/gwave that would (likely) be your only e-mail service. Thus, you let them send the message with the change to you and before you *can* read it, you have accepted it. In other words, if they change it to "we may disclose everything to everyone", you're seriously screwed. 09:30:13 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8e7.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:30:48 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has joined #openttd 09:31:22 <Aberro> It's paranoid a bit. 09:31:53 <Aberro> But, yes, if you have own servers, wave isn't so good. 09:35:07 <__ln__> Does someone actually use wave for anything 09:36:33 <dih> hello ladies 09:38:51 <Aberro> Yes. Lot of people use it. 09:39:13 <__ln__> Name one. 09:56:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:25 <OwenS> Rubidium: It would be unenforcible if they did that. They must give reasonable notice of any changes under law. 10:01:22 <__ln__> But if they disclosed everything to everyone, the damage would probably be caused whether it was legal or not. 10:05:50 <Aberro> I don't know any, just because it's new service. But there is already many people registered there, you can ask they. I think it can be used as advanced forum for developers. 10:05:54 <b_jonas> so openttd has diagonal tracks under bridges, but no diagonal bridges, diagonal road-track level crossings, or diagonal tunnels right? 10:06:52 <Aberro> This big bad daddy google)) He want to enslave whole world) 10:07:36 <__ln__> Aberro: Wave was new last year, now it's 'old', but nobody's talking about it. (Except you.) 10:11:53 <Aberro> Nobody? So why I'm see a lot of news about it everywhere? In habrahabr each tenth post about it, xaker.ru posted many articles about it and everyone extol it, even when admit it's shortcomings. 10:13:11 <__ln__> Never heard of habrahabr nor xaker.ru. 10:14:02 <Noldo> big in russia 10:14:52 <Aberro> It's russian resources. Habrahabr is bloging service about IT. Xaker.ru is news site about hacking and internet security. 10:15:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15:31 <__ln__> horosho 10:15:45 <Aberro> So, is it only in russia talking about wave? 10:16:07 <Aberro> It is interest. 10:17:01 <Aberro> __ln__,oh, yes, bears, vodka, communism, preved and so on... 10:17:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:57 <Rubidium> OwenS: they already did it when they do, so the bad thing already happened 10:18:10 *** OwenS is now known as owens 10:18:30 <__ln__> I follow slashdot and other things quite regularly, and I don't remember seeing nothing about Wave in the past 6 months. 10:22:07 <b_jonas> why are there no two-way path signals? 10:22:40 <Rubidium> because those are stupid/pointless 10:22:52 <b_jonas> are they? 10:23:18 <b_jonas> hmm 10:23:24 <b_jonas> maybe they are 10:23:25 <Rubidium> it's a "safe waiting position". It being safe at both sides means a train from both sides can go to that signal 10:23:41 <Rubidium> or in other words: deadlock 10:23:51 <b_jonas> I think I'll have to experiment a bit because I don't quite understand pbs 10:24:29 <Aberro> Damn, I'm now thinking in english)) 10:24:38 <Aberro> Excuse me, but I must back to work. 10:29:25 <b_jonas> If I have a simple pbs terminus with two tracks out of it, when the train enters it and reserves the path to the end of the rail, when does that path get unreserved? 10:30:01 <b_jonas> does passing the path signal at the terminus exit from the back unreserve it? 10:30:29 *** Leanden [~Leanden@146.227.14.36] has joined #openttd 10:35:36 *** Leanden [~Leanden@146.227.14.36] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 10:36:49 <b_jonas> no, apparently each single track square is reserved immediately when the train leaves it 10:36:59 <b_jonas> how does that even work? 10:37:07 <b_jonas> magic 10:37:36 <b_jonas> now I've built a confusing reverse side double track 10:51:24 * b_jonas wonders how his trains got deadlocked 10:53:57 <planetmaker> putting up signals at non-save waiting locations ;-) 10:54:30 <b_jonas> oh, I see 10:54:32 <b_jonas> I did it wrong 11:03:39 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.153.161] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05:25 *** Chruker|wtdDBDump [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:06:26 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75830.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:07:49 *** Chruker|wtdDBDump is now known as Chruker 11:08:50 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76957.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:11:08 *** Aberro [~killen-co@c.177.181.a417.sta.adsl.cyfra.net] has left #openttd [] 11:26:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.83.181] has joined #openttd 11:31:49 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.153.161] has joined #openttd 11:35:18 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.13.92] has joined #openttd 11:38:14 <peter1138> argh 11:41:41 <andythenorth> peter1138: my feelings exactly 11:42:44 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 11:43:15 <Noldo> mine too 12:01:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:05:46 *** _Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:06:22 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 12:08:43 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:08:58 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:17:56 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-72-20.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:25:10 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:a111:a67a:8f39:d7d0] has joined #openttd 12:25:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:28:56 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:04:24 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 13:08:20 <Belugas> hello 13:16:33 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:16 *** Illegal_Alien [9c5301fb@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:30 *** Mikhailjrjrsmo [~chatzilla@195.16.79.219] has joined #openttd 13:30:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:33:00 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75830.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:35:34 *** Eoin [eoin@cpc1-dund8-0-0-cust3.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:37:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 13:37:44 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:28 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:49:10 *** Aberro [~killen-co@c.177.181.a417.sta.adsl.cyfra.net] has joined #openttd 13:49:48 *** Aberro [~killen-co@c.177.181.a417.sta.adsl.cyfra.net] has left #openttd [] 13:51:04 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has joined #openttd 14:08:04 *** lewymati [~lewymati@89.230.159.206] has joined #openttd 14:14:20 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 14:36:36 *** b_jonas [~x@C3E4DFA0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:31 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81-5-142-101.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has joined #openttd 14:41:49 <_Ben_> Quick question: is there any cheat for ignoring authority? each time they currently refuse, I'm starting a new game to try things with stations 14:42:08 <_Ben_> tecnique rather than cheat I guess I mean 14:43:45 <Ammler> place 2-3 bus stops with 3 buses and you will have good raiting 14:44:09 <_Ben_> ok, so genuinly work your reputation up in effect 14:44:10 <Ammler> you can rise bad raiting with bulldoze the region and plant trees 14:44:33 <_Ben_> yeah I tend to quickly plant some trees...think it's easier just to start new games (just talking about testing sprites here, not really playing) 14:44:40 <_Ben_> ok, cool...that's all I wanted to know. 14:44:42 <_Ben_> cheers 14:45:24 <Ammler> no cheat to change it manually, afaik 14:45:28 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81-5-142-101.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:54:46 *** owens is now known as OwenS 14:55:38 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100403215037]] 15:03:27 *** Illegal_Alien [9c5301fb@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:10:48 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.13.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:54 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 15:22:30 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-98-219.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:41 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-109-138.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:24:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:25:45 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.13.92] has joined #openttd 15:31:41 *** aui [~aui@cpe-66-75-19-121.san.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:37:21 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:42:57 *** aui [~aui@cpe-66-75-19-121.san.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:51:42 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4b34.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:53:29 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 16:01:05 *** lolman_ is now known as lolman 16:15:23 *** PeterT is now known as peter1995 16:15:52 *** peter1138 is now known as peter1978 16:16:38 *** peter1995 is now known as peter1138 16:17:26 *** peter1138 is now known as PeterT 16:17:33 *** peter1978 is now known as peter1138 16:24:57 <zachanima> what 16:25:07 <PeterT> what. 16:25:23 <zachanima> hai 16:25:53 <PeterT> hello 16:31:45 <planetmaker> rrright 16:35:38 <TrueBrain> best conversation EVER 16:39:15 <PeterT> hey planetmaker, TrueBrain 16:39:37 <SpComb> 1978, eh 16:49:02 *** nilsor [~nils@p4FC872EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:04 <nilsor> Heloo 16:49:11 <nilsor> Im trying to compile openttd for the first time 16:49:19 <PeterT> sure 16:49:22 <PeterT> what OS? 16:49:27 <nilsor> Win7 64 16:49:29 <PeterT> what have you done so far? 16:49:33 <nilsor> visual studio 2008 16:49:42 <nilsor> is dx sdk mandatory? 16:49:46 <PeterT> yep 16:49:47 <nilsor> because the site on the wiki says its not 16:49:48 <glx> yes 16:49:57 <glx> and you need an old version 16:49:58 <PeterT> well, the dll's that it contains are 16:49:59 <nilsor> i removed the directx music parameter 16:50:13 <PeterT> that's also possible, yes 16:50:22 <nilsor> 4>..\src\music\dmusic.cpp(23) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'dmksctrl.h': No such file or directory 16:50:26 <nilsor> Thats the only error i get 16:50:35 <glx> from dx sdk 16:51:11 <nilsor> is there a workaround? 16:51:21 <nilsor> and just get a bunch of files isntead of the complete SDK? 16:52:54 <nilsor> mmh 16:52:59 <planetmaker> why would you? 16:53:05 <planetmaker> just get the SDK... 16:53:13 <nilsor> because i dont need the sDK 16:53:18 <PeterT> yes you do 16:53:21 <nilsor> just for this tiny lib 16:53:58 <planetmaker> if you don't need it, you won't get errors without ;-) 16:54:09 <nilsor> arr 16:54:26 <nilsor> ill just download the header and the particular lib 16:54:43 <nilsor> oh wait i got "dxsdk_oct2005-1.exe" 16:54:45 <nilsor> on my disk 16:54:47 <glx> it's not availlable outside the sdk 16:55:06 <nilsor> kk 16:55:11 <glx> oct2005 should work 16:55:20 <nilsor> thanks 16:55:50 <glx> the latest usable sdk is aug2007 16:57:19 <glx> then MS removed directmusic 17:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> if they removed it, they must have put in some alternative, did nobody ever research what alternative that is? 17:01:32 <frosch123> which current game plays midi? 17:03:04 <planetmaker> hm, OpenTTD. And... :-) 17:03:09 <planetmaker> *something* 17:03:30 <theholyduck> the "current" game running on my 486 laptop 17:03:35 <theholyduck> monkey island 1! 17:03:43 <theholyduck> the intro sequence in midi is godly 17:04:08 <theholyduck> its much better on a old crappy laptop midi device :P 17:04:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:05:35 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: the alternative is no midi 17:05:50 <Eddi|zuHause> theholyduck: that was waaaaay before direct x 17:06:03 <theholyduck> Eddi|zuHause, sure, but its a game you can run currently! 17:06:57 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway... the monkey island theme is also a genious piece at abusing the pc speaker 17:07:23 <SpComb> abusing? 17:07:25 <SpComb> using! 17:07:54 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: it's way beyond anything i ever got from the pc speaker in any other situation 17:08:31 <theholyduck> Eddi|zuHause, well it does sound pretty godly for what is making the sound 17:09:15 <Eddi|zuHause> once upon a time i had a win 3.1 midi driver for the pc speaker 17:09:21 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:13:19 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 17:23:30 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 17:31:42 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 17:32:44 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:37:25 *** Elvis [~Elvis@koln-5d8135c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:41 *** Elvis [~Elvis@koln-5d8135c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [] 17:38:16 *** Elvis_Cooper [~Elvis@koln-5d8135c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:40:47 *** Brin [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 17:41:22 <Elvis_Cooper> good evemning 17:43:22 <Alberth> evenink 17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r19897 /trunk/src/lang/ (dutch.txt slovak.txt unfinished/irish.txt): 17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 6 changes by habell 17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: irish - 47 changes by tem 17:45:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: slovak - 10 changes by keso53 17:46:02 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@93.159.251.98] has joined #openttd 17:46:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:59 *** Brin is now known as KouDy 17:52:35 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@93.159.251.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:59:03 *** DX_Ipad [Dreamxtrem@client-86-27-26-146.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:48 *** DX_Ipad [Dreamxtrem@client-86-27-26-146.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 18:01:16 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:21 *** Muxy [~Muxy@81.56.185.201] has joined #openttd 18:11:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-233-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:11:55 <Wolf01> hello 18:11:59 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:18:39 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:19:19 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:24:17 <nilsor> glx 18:24:30 <nilsor> i installed the DX Sdk meanwhile 18:26:28 <nilsor> nevermind, found my mistake 18:29:39 *** Brin [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:29:39 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:39 *** Brin is now known as KouDy 18:32:06 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3EA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:35:27 <Wolf01> bye, kart racing time! 18:35:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-233-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 18:36:42 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:42:28 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: I've been doing some thinking about the 19th. What if we meet near the stadium of FC Utrecht? It will be 7 minutes longer than the straight route from Leiden, but still 15 minutes shorter than a detour to Amersfoort CS 18:44:19 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 18:44:46 <planetmaker> honestly I'm not sure whether planning to the minute matters, if you go on a 4.5 hours car trip ;-) 18:45:24 <__ln__> anyone doing a detour through finland? 18:45:26 <Mazur> It does matter in the way that it'll fail anyway. 18:46:08 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: all fine by me .. a few minutes really doesn't matter to me 18:46:10 <Rubidium> planetmaker: it's just that the alternative I'm proposing is faster and shorter for everyone 18:46:18 <planetmaker> :-) 18:46:25 <Mazur> What I normally do is calculate travel time, add 50% to that and see how it goes. 18:46:25 <Rubidium> and yes, 15 minutes might not be much 18:46:36 <planetmaker> depends on the traffic from those two sites to the highway, I say 18:46:54 <planetmaker> and inner town routes... usually google time estimates are not that great there 18:47:00 <Alberth> at saturday morning: not good :p 18:47:08 <planetmaker> ... :-P 18:47:09 <Rubidium> planetmaker: "just" off the highway vs to the city center 18:47:22 <planetmaker> On a Saturday morning every minute of sleep might count :-P 18:47:46 <Rubidium> also, meeting people at a not-so-crowded place is way easier 18:48:02 <planetmaker> "just off the highway" sounds better indeed :-) 18:48:03 <planetmaker> yup 18:48:23 <Rubidium> I'd basically be waiting for two guys with no idea where they are to step of a bus vs come from a fairly crowded station 18:48:38 <planetmaker> I just noticed I rented out my couch for mid June to mid July :-P 18:48:40 <Rubidium> also, reaching the stadium is way easier 18:48:43 <planetmaker> we'll have to do without 18:48:48 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: you pick the place I should drive to, I pick you up there :p 18:49:46 *** Muxy [~Muxy@81.56.185.201] has quit [Quit: PACKET_CLIENT_QUIT] 18:51:06 <Rubidium> it's basically http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=leiden&daddr=Herculesplein+to:braunschweig&hl=nl&geocode=FT_qGwMdqYNEACntXaD-jcbFRzEHlCTQipEGAA%3BFXKrGgMdOX9OAA%3BFdR8HQMdrJ6gACk7ZgCK1fWvRzGwOqyUbawlBA&mra=mi&mrcr=0,1&mrsp=1&sz=18&sll=52.079595,5.144048&sspn=0.003132,0.00309&ie=UTF8&ll=52.088789,5.122032&spn=0.200404,0.197754&z=12 vs 18:51:12 <Rubidium> http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=leiden&daddr=52.120209,5.333176+to:Onbekende+weg+to:braunschweig&geocode=FT_qGwMdqYNEACntXaD-jcbFRzEHlCTQipEGAA%3B%3BFZ7KGwMd0PFRAA%3BFdR8HQMdrJ6gACk7ZgCK1fWvRzGwOqyUbawlBA&hl=nl&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=12&via=1&sll=52.133277,5.414543&sspn=0.200204,0.197754&ie=UTF8&ll=52.152029,5.828247&spn=1.600989,1.582031&z=9 18:52:51 *** Freak_NL [~freaknl@ip82-139-81-111.lijbrandt.net] has joined #openttd 18:53:29 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 18:53:31 <Freak_NL> Hello #openttd, does anyone know of a simple nfo example for a station NewGRF? 18:54:37 <Freak_NL> Basically, the kind of nfo you would need to test a few custom sprites, nothing fancy. 18:55:16 <Rubidium> doesn't one of the examples cover stations? 18:55:27 <frosch123> Ammler: did you use stations or houses for testing opengfx alignment? 18:55:47 <Ammler> stations, but that isn't really good as example :-) 18:55:49 <Freak_NL> Rubidium, I didn't find one yet. 18:55:59 <planetmaker> Freak_NL: the only one I know is http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/modernstationset 18:56:20 *** Eggman891 [~Eggman891@cpc1-staf7-2-0-cust110.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: -1 Furfag in dis channel.] 18:56:22 <planetmaker> But I'm not sure whether it's easy or not. I guess rather not 18:56:49 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 18:56:50 <planetmaker> And mind that I'm not quite sure about the license. It's quite "interesting" one 18:57:16 <Freak_NL> planetmaker, I'll have a look, all I need is an example for writing the nfo 18:57:30 <planetmaker> then have a look there :-) 18:57:43 <planetmaker> I know no other station source which is available 18:58:27 <Ammler> dutchstations, but same author 18:58:34 <Ammler> so the code might be similar 18:58:43 <planetmaker> ah, right 18:58:55 <Freak_NL> Looks well documented, so it may be just what I need to get going 18:59:04 <planetmaker> that DutchStations code might actually be in better shape 18:59:21 <planetmaker> Freak_NL: never write NFO without PLENTY of comments ;-) 18:59:34 <planetmaker> or you'll not understand the other day what you did yesterday :-) 18:59:38 <Ammler> http://trac.openttdcoop.org/browser/grfdev/dutchstations 18:59:55 <Freak_NL> planetmaker, yeah I know, I'm a programmer myself.. 19:00:15 <planetmaker> :-) Well, yeah. But NFO is notorious IMHO for being unreadable ;-) 19:00:19 <Freak_NL> I know I'll hate myself later if I skip comments :) 19:00:38 <planetmaker> hehe, indeed 19:07:06 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 19:08:07 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [] 19:08:09 <Rubidium> to paraphrase one of my teachers (and to adapt it to NFO): "the comments are needed, otherwise grfcodec doesn't understand it" 19:08:23 *** Goulp [~Goulp@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:24 *** Goulpy [~Muxy@81.56.185.201] has joined #openttd 19:08:46 *** Goulpy is now known as regain 19:08:54 *** Muxy is now known as Guest1614 19:08:54 *** regain is now known as Muxy 19:09:50 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:05 <Nite_Owl> Hello all 19:10:13 <Alberth> hello 19:10:22 <Alberth> not sure whether 'all' is here atm 19:10:23 *** Guest1614 [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:33 <PeterT> lol 19:12:00 <Muxy> @seen all 19:12:00 <DorpsGek> Muxy: I have not seen all. 19:13:04 <Nite_Owl> Hello Alberth 19:13:42 <Nite_Owl> Maybe All will show up later 19:16:16 <Illegal_Alien> WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 19:19:10 <planetmaker> *shreek* 19:19:15 <planetmaker> hello Nite_Owl 19:19:30 <Nite_Owl> Hello planetmaker 19:24:02 *** DDR [~chatzilla@d99-199-13-89.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:08 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3EA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:29:22 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC7257.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:43 <glx> [21:08:16] <@Rubidium> to paraphrase one of my teachers (and to adapt it to NFO): "the comments are needed, otherwise grfcodec doesn't understand it" <-- but NFO really requires some comments ;) 19:30:12 <glx> the first 3 lines 19:31:16 <frosch123> especially the "do not alter" part is importantr 19:31:57 <frosch123> imo the most hillarious part of nfo 19:37:01 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:40:14 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:38 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 19:48:41 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-70-216.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:54:40 <__ln__> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html 19:57:52 *** Eggman891 [~Eggman891@cpc1-staf7-2-0-cust110.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:00:55 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-109-138.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:03:12 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-75-221.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:03:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 20:03:57 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:04:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:36 <Eddi|zuHause> afair, the "do not alter" part is not needed 20:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause> [Sa Apr 26 2008] [23:42:22] <DaleStan> Eddi|zuHause3: Currently, the first line must start with "// ", the second with "// (Info version ", and the third may be anything, but will always be ignored. Currently. One change I have floating around will make the third and following header lines of the format "// <key>:<data>" 20:12:29 *** Nite_Owl_ [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:12:43 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:57 *** Nite_Owl_ is now known as Nite_Owl 20:13:08 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: ptr] 20:15:43 *** heffer [~felix@static-87-78-98-150.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 20:15:51 <planetmaker> good that NML is at the horizon :-) 20:16:12 *** Wasila [~Wasila@81-178-69-164.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 20:21:20 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:22:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:10 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #openttd 20:24:31 <Eddi|zuHause> "ick hör dir schon trapsen" 20:27:18 *** FloSoft [bouncer@www.siedler25.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:15 *** FloSoft [bouncer@www.siedler25.org] has joined #openttd 20:35:48 *** a1270 [~Cheese@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:40 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 20:37:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:43:27 <SmatZ> evening 20:43:28 * SmatZ is so tired 20:43:33 <SmatZ> and sweaty 20:44:29 *** Yexo [~Yexo@183-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 20:44:40 <frosch123> sweaty? it rained all day 20:44:44 *** Yexo [~Yexo@183-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 20:46:46 <SmatZ> well 20:46:51 <SmatZ> I went from the bus 20:46:53 <SmatZ> uphill 20:46:57 <SmatZ> and it was raining 20:47:06 *** lewymati [~lewymati@89.230.159.206] has quit [] 20:47:09 <SmatZ> so sweaty and wet :-p 20:47:23 <Ammler> igit 20:47:43 <SmatZ> thanks :-p 20:47:46 <planetmaker> thanks for sharing :-P 20:47:48 <Elvis_Cooper> hrhr 20:48:02 <SmatZ> that reminds me, I wanted to lose someweight for the 20k meeting 20:48:04 <planetmaker> but still a good evening to you :-) 20:48:06 <SmatZ> so I am not all fat there :-p 20:48:11 <planetmaker> haha :-) 20:48:12 <SmatZ> good evening, planetmaker ;) 20:48:40 <SmatZ> tommorow I am having some running 20:48:45 <SmatZ> (to a pub and back) 20:48:46 <planetmaker> I've an idea how you might loose weight till then: start. running. now. Towards the meeting place :-) 20:48:53 <SmatZ> :-D 20:49:06 <Ammler> then you might have as long as me :-) 20:49:06 <SmatZ> 30km a day is doable 20:49:10 <SmatZ> :-D 20:49:18 <planetmaker> yup, should be 20:49:49 <Ammler> how many "car hours" do you have? 20:49:56 <frosch123> if that is too hard, i can offer you a train when you run to my place. that is only half the way 20:49:58 <planetmaker> loool 20:50:09 <SmatZ> :-D 20:50:14 <SmatZ> Ammler: car hours? 20:50:18 <planetmaker> I just asked google, SmatZ: estimated time by foot: 3 days, 13 hours. Good luck! 20:50:19 <frosch123> also you only have to run horizontally ;p 20:50:24 <SmatZ> :-D 20:50:26 <frosch123> (on the map) 20:51:10 <SmatZ> it's ~500 km on highways, so about 4 hours by car 20:51:16 <planetmaker> @calc (24*3+13) / 5 20:51:16 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 17 20:51:30 <planetmaker> @calc 419 / 30 20:51:30 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: 13.9666666667 20:51:42 <planetmaker> so something like 2 - 3 weeks seems more probable 20:51:46 <frosch123> hmm, oh, i failed again at geography ... 20:51:59 <frosch123> smatz, me and pm are about equidistant from each other 20:52:07 <planetmaker> woot? 20:52:23 <planetmaker> I'd have failed that test, too. Aschaffenburg? 20:52:32 <SmatZ> I would need to take someone with me, else the gasoline is going to be quite expensive (~100E total) 20:52:49 *** Wasila [~Wasila@81-178-69-164.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:52:57 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.153.161] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:12 <frosch123> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=prag&daddr=Aschaffenburg&geocode=FYNH_AId7AncACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA%3BFQiH-gIdMZqLACkXIO0R5Ee9RzHgiBYe5OxkmQ&hl=de&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=51.151786,10.371094&sspn=14.132112,39.067383&ie=UTF8&ll=50.792047,12.722168&spn=3.556056,9.766846&z=7 20:53:14 <planetmaker> SmatZ: Mucht or Osai :-) 20:53:32 <Ammler> or V<big-integer> 20:53:35 <SmatZ> ideally someone from CZ... 20:53:36 <SmatZ> yeah :) 20:54:01 *** Chris_Booth_ [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:02 <planetmaker> frosch123: it's 100km less between you and me than between either you or me and Smatz ;-) 20:54:16 <Mucht> pretty far for me -.- 20:54:33 *** Nite_Owl [~Nite_Owl@c-98-254-113-47.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Read You Soon] 20:54:52 <planetmaker> pretty fun, though ;-) 20:54:57 <SmatZ> :-) 20:55:51 <SmatZ> 3 Tage, 19 Stunden fÃŒr FuÃgÀnger? I don't believe that :-p 20:56:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust443.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:56:12 *** Chris_Booth_ is now known as Chris_Booth 20:56:18 <SmatZ> (438 km) 20:56:27 <Rubidium> @calc 438/(3*24+19) 20:56:27 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 4.81318681319 20:56:42 <Rubidium> 4.8 km/h seems reasonable for walking 20:56:44 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ can come here and pick me up, that is half the way ;) 20:56:48 <planetmaker> non-stop :-P 20:57:03 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: it's rather 2/3 I think 20:57:22 <planetmaker> 150km from here 20:57:29 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: would be nice, where do you live? 2/3 sounds around Leipzig 20:57:35 <planetmaker> yup 20:57:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 20:57:43 <SmatZ> :-) 20:57:47 <SmatZ> well, yes :) can be 20:57:50 <planetmaker> just the other side of the highway, if I get it right ;-) 20:58:02 <planetmaker> Hanoi? ;-) 20:58:12 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i live outside of Halle 20:58:16 <planetmaker> ah :-) 20:58:17 <SmatZ> :p 20:58:31 <planetmaker> SmatZ: that's the nick-name of one of the suburbs there ;-) 20:58:37 <SmatZ> ok :D 20:58:46 <planetmaker> Ha-Neu = Halle Neustadt 20:58:53 <SmatZ> hehe 20:59:14 <planetmaker> not quite the place to be though ;-) 20:59:31 <planetmaker> though flats are pretty cheap 20:59:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never lived in Halle-Neustadt 20:59:43 * planetmaker neither, but I had friends living there 20:59:46 <Eddi|zuHause> actually, it's very green there 21:00:10 <planetmaker> quite true. Still not my preferred flats 21:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i hate google... after so many years, they still did not manage for google maps to work in konqueror 21:01:41 <Rubidium> heh, google thinks walking includes taking a train 21:02:03 <PeterT> when's the meet planned for? 21:02:29 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:43 <Belugas> home, than dentist, than night 21:02:43 <Belugas> bye 21:02:51 <Rubidium> good luck Belugas 21:03:05 <Eddi|zuHause> SmatZ: anyway, it'd be like half an hour detour, i live quite far away from the highway 21:03:51 <Eddi|zuHause> unless you come by around 11:00, then i'd be in Halle 21:03:57 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:05:17 <planetmaker> bye Belugas 21:05:25 <Rubidium> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=prag&daddr=Aschaffenburg&geocode=FYNH_AId7AncACmLeXAJnJMLRzGQQBZmD68ABA%3BFQiH-gIdMZqLACkXIO0R5Ee9RzHgiBYe5OxkmQ&hl=de&mra=ls&dirflg=w&sll=51.151786,10.371094&sspn=14.132112,39.067383&ie=UTF8&ll=50.792047,12.722168&spn=3.556056,9.766846&z=7 <- walking at almost 60 km/h 21:05:49 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: no problem for me, we can discuss the details later :) 21:05:55 <SmatZ> Rubidium: hehe :) 21:06:03 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: I wouldn't assume that he's much earlier around halle... 21:06:17 <planetmaker> unless he's an early bird. I wouldn't bet on that though :-P 21:06:53 <SmatZ> I am not, but when I have to get up early, I don't have much problems with that ;) 21:07:05 <planetmaker> :-) 21:07:17 <planetmaker> I guess you can be here in like 5 hours, too 21:07:36 <planetmaker> so being around 11 in Halle sounds like a time which is quite ok 21:07:49 <planetmaker> then you'll be here at around 1pm 21:08:12 <SmatZ> hmm losing 10kgs in 1 months is doable :) 21:08:17 <SmatZ> -s 21:08:40 <planetmaker> sure that it's a good thing? 21:08:45 <Rubidium> just weigh all your fecal matter for a month; probably will be more than 10 kgs :) 21:08:49 <planetmaker> that it wouldn't be like loosing only water? 21:08:59 <planetmaker> ewww 21:09:18 <SmatZ> :-D 21:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i don't think that is medically the right way to measure lost weight :p 21:10:04 <planetmaker> economically it'd count as turn-over ;-) 21:10:27 <frosch123> recently a scale told me i am too young for my weight 21:10:38 <planetmaker> :-P 21:11:03 <frosch123> (my body mass index is fine for >= 30, but fat for < 30) :p 21:13:44 * __ln__ wants a cheap flight to germany 21:14:23 * planetmaker wants that __ln__ finds a cheap flight to Berlin or Hanover 21:14:55 <frosch123> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&geocode=&q=from:+turku+to:+braunschweig&sll=61.233245,24.400635&sspn=2.707587,9.766846&dirflg=w&ie=UTF8&z=5 21:15:04 <frosch123> same time as for smatz 21:15:10 <frosch123> *duration 21:15:37 <planetmaker> that looks like a fun "walking" distance and route :-D 21:15:50 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe there are cheap flights to airports that are way off grid... 21:15:51 <frosch123> visiting two other countries :p 21:16:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Administr@89.246.175.52] has joined #openttd 21:16:30 <SmatZ> :-) 21:16:33 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 21:16:41 <SmatZ> I searched for cheap flights, but found nothing 21:17:45 <Eddi|zuHause> you have to be careful with "cheap" flights, often they don't include taxes and fees in their "advertisment" 21:18:21 <planetmaker> SmatZ: you could book into the VW private flights. They used to give free flights to CZ to their staff, especially the union leaders :-P 21:18:31 <__ln__> turku-hamburg 220â¬... cheapest so far, though not really cheap. 21:18:34 <planetmaker> and they started right from this town :-P 21:18:57 <planetmaker> they have their own Airbus parked here for that very reason 21:20:12 <planetmaker> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&q=flughafen&sll=52.31533,10.554922&sspn=0.001217,0.004731&ie=UTF8&split=1&rq=1&ev=p&radius=0.12&hq=flughafen&hnear=&ll=52.31533,10.554922&spn=0.001217,0.004731&t=h&z=18 <-- there it is actually 21:23:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Administr@89.246.179.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:21 <planetmaker> http://maps.google.de/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=de&q=flughafen&sll=52.287893,10.534293&sspn=0.000609,0.002366&ie=UTF8&split=1&rq=1&ev=p&radius=0.06&hq=flughafen&hnear=&ll=52.287798,10.534244&spn=0.000609,0.002366&t=h&z=19 <-- place for BBQ most probably 21:24:08 *** Brin [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 21:24:31 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:24:31 *** Brin is now known as KouDy 21:24:39 *** Elvis_Cooper [~Elvis@koln-5d8135c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity] 21:28:35 <frosch123> that is quite a nibelungian area 21:28:59 <planetmaker> yeah... the Siegfriedviertel is the name of this suburb ;-) 21:29:40 <frosch123> hmm, walkÃŒrenring. i cannot remember whether that is also nibelungian or only wagnerian 21:29:41 <planetmaker> if you go by public transport you get off from tram at the Burgundenplatz or off the bus at the SiegfriedstraÃe 21:30:04 <planetmaker> both 21:30:19 <planetmaker> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk%C3%BCre 21:30:52 <planetmaker> it's not like Wagner invented the stuff. He just made nice music around that theme 21:31:03 <frosch123> that i know :p 21:31:07 <planetmaker> :-) 21:31:45 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, WalkÃŒren are part of the Nibelungen song 21:32:15 <planetmaker> definitely 21:32:54 <planetmaker> hm, would you guys stay around for Sunday and a guided tour through the town? 21:33:18 <planetmaker> hey, you must love Gauss ;-) 21:34:48 <frosch123> gauss? i thought we meet in bs, not gö 21:35:01 <planetmaker> this is his birth town 21:35:13 <frosch123> haha, everyone wants to have a piece :p 21:35:18 <planetmaker> sure ;-) 21:35:27 <planetmaker> hey, also he went to school here :-) 21:36:18 <planetmaker> which unfortunately was mostly destroyed, and only a nice entry-arc remained from the original building 21:36:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:39:24 <planetmaker> but then Till Eulenspiegel or Henry the Lion might be just as famous ;-) 21:42:08 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-75-221.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:54 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-182-133.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 21:43:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:44:04 *** ptr [~peter@c213-89-142-224.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz] 21:52:03 <frosch123> night awl 21:52:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f4b34.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:08 *** KouDy [~KouDy@rb5ck203.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:03 *** JostVice [~jostvice@85.136.129.22.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #openttd [] 22:15:18 *** Mikhailjrjrsmo [~chatzilla@195.16.79.219] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [SeaMonkey 2.0.4/20100317120533]] 22:29:39 *** Polygon [~Poly@x0581b.wh7.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:00 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7711F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:48 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:05 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 22:38:15 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:01:33 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r19898 /trunk/findversion.sh: -Fix [FS#3853]: hg version detection fails for uncommited merges (planetmaker) 23:03:29 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d199096.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:46 *** _Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 23:07:55 *** Freak_NL [~freaknl@ip82-139-81-111.lijbrandt.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:09:22 *** Illegal_Alien [~Illegal_A@ip4da39612.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:31 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC7257.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 23:11:10 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.13.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:18 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-140-147.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:32:33 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF838D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:46:13 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:22 *** DL|Rage_nox [~nils@p4FC86E89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:49 *** DL|Rage_nox [~nils@p4FC86E89.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:53:53 *** nilsor [~nils@p4FC872EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]