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Log for #openttd on 12th July 2010:
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00:35:10  <Wolf01> 'night
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00:43:01  <zzux> h
00:43:02  <zzux> hi
00:44:05  <zzux> ¿someone around?
00:44:12  <zzux> i'm having trouble
00:44:20  <zzux> i installed open GFX
00:44:23  <zzux> but still no sound
00:44:35  <Eddi|zuHause> sound comes from opensfx
00:44:50  <Eddi|zuHause> you can download it from within the game
00:45:04  <zzux> i prefer to install them manually
00:45:15  <Eddi|zuHause> you can do that, too ;)
00:45:24  <zzux> will look in google, thanks :)
00:45:34  <zzux> thanks for open ttd
00:45:45  <zzux> it seems a good game
00:45:51  <Eddi|zuHause> it's all available from the website
00:45:56  <zzux> ok
00:46:08  <zzux> ...i found it thanks
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06:49:36  <Terkhen> good morning
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07:11:09  <SmatZ> morning
07:11:36  <planetmaker> good morning sirs :-)
07:11:44  <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :)
07:12:03  <planetmaker> (and ladies, should there be some, of course, too)
07:12:53  <SmatZ> :)
07:13:31  <Terkhen> :)
07:15:26  <SmatZ> congratulations on the football, Terkhen :)
07:16:23  <Terkhen> thank you :)
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07:37:16  <Samu> hey
07:37:29  <SmatZ> hello Samu
07:39:02  <Samu> hi SmatZ
07:39:24  <Samu> Yesterday I remembered something
07:39:47  <Samu> I can run OpenTTD.exe
07:39:53  <Samu> using command lines
07:40:09  <Samu> I was able to chose a different midi type
07:40:22  <Samu> it listed a win32 option
07:40:31  <Samu> I used that and the songs played perfectly
07:40:57  <Samu> and I could chose the synth table in the sound panel on windows
07:41:07  <Samu> that must be what Winamp uses
07:42:26  <Rubidium> but... it crashes OpenTTD on some songs
07:42:54  <Samu> didn't crash for me
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07:43:03  <Samu> they all played and the list repeated
07:43:05  <Samu> :(
07:44:05  <Samu> but which song pack?
07:44:11  <Rubidium> openmsx
07:44:12  <Samu> I used the original windows pack
07:44:14  <Samu> oh...
07:44:18  <Samu> i didn't try that
07:44:21  <Samu> :(
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07:47:32  <Samu> I don't have winamp here or a sound blaster
07:47:36  <Samu> can't test it
07:48:22  <Samu> this one is a Advance AC97 Audio, lol
07:48:46  <Samu> it only has 1 synth, the microsoft one
07:49:24  <planetmaker> ha, indeed Terkhen. Spain well deserved the title :-)
07:49:39  <planetmaker> Even though I'd like to have the German team win, Spain was clearly better
07:49:46  <planetmaker> And also clearly better than the Dutch
07:50:32  <Rubidium> and the Dutch are just whining
07:50:36  <planetmaker> Samu, your windoze media player will happily play any midi file
07:50:42  <SmatZ> it was not very clean game from the netherlands yesterday
07:50:45  <Samu> well guys, I must go, I have an appointment for checking my invalidity, see you later
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07:55:54  <Terkhen> both matches were really hard; the match against Germany was one of the best I have ever seen
07:56:31  <Terkhen> but that karate kick to the chest yesterday was too much
07:56:34  <planetmaker> Terkhen, they played very well there. The match itself IMHO could have been better, if the Germans had played better
07:56:45  <planetmaker> it was a rather one-sided thing ;-)
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07:58:17  <fjb> Moin.
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07:58:46  <planetmaker> moin fjb
07:59:12  <planetmaker> yeah, the karate kick yesterday... that was worst I've seen so far
08:00:20  <fjb> Which karate kick?
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08:02:45  <Terkhen> I can understand playing dirty as a tactic, since the referee would probably not dare to expel anyone in a final... but that kick was just for causing harm
08:02:57  <Terkhen> fjb: yesterday's match
08:03:33  <fjb> Didn't watch it.
08:03:41  <Terkhen> http://www.extradeportes.com/futbol-f1-tennis/2010/07/Dejong-patada-Xabi.jpg
08:03:53  <planetmaker> fjb, one guy kicked the other player straight into the chest
08:04:43  <planetmaker> deserving immediate sending off the playground
08:04:44  <fjb> Stupid game.
08:05:45  * fjb likes peaceful games like TTD.
08:06:52  <Rubidium> blind simultaneous chess :)
08:09:39  * fjb has to try that.
08:09:49  <Terkhen> people will always find a way to play dirty (like flooding all land in the map or destroying other players' trucks with trains)
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08:35:58  <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/private/fair_play.jpg planetmaker
08:36:15  <SmatZ> ah Terkhen already posted that :)
08:37:32  <planetmaker> SmatZ, yes, I watched the game ;-)
08:38:52  <TrueBrain> SmatZ: the picture is a bit out of context :)
08:39:00  <TrueBrain> the kick was on the ball .. the other player really walked into his foot
08:39:11  <TrueBrain> then again ... watched the kick on the nose of the previous match? :)
08:39:31  <TrueBrain> or the kick on a player who was on the ground the one before that? :p
08:39:35  <SmatZ> TrueBrain: the problem with dutch players is they play very offensively - they don't mind going to other's people body
08:39:54  <TrueBrain> (mind you, the last two were against Dutch players ;))
08:40:04  <TrueBrain> Soccer is nowedays a contact-sport
08:40:08  <TrueBrain> and it sucks to watch
08:40:26  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, the kick was no-way to the ball
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08:40:38  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: looked from the other angle, yes :)
08:40:46  <TrueBrain> he wanted to hit the ball
08:40:54  <planetmaker> I doubt
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08:41:20  <TrueBrain> all about perspective :)
08:42:01  <TrueBrain> don't get me wrong, the Dutch players did a horrible game .. they should never ever try to be so .. abusive .. they suck at it (the Spain players were much better at hiding away what they did :p)
08:42:04  <planetmaker> Jumping feet at head-height at another player has nothing to do with football. IMHO irrespective of persepective
08:42:06  <TrueBrain> no clue what got into them to play like that :p
08:42:09  <planetmaker> *perspective
08:42:17  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: it was dangerous play, that for sure
08:42:27  <TrueBrain> both parties did that over and over and over
08:42:34  <TrueBrain> personally, I think they all wanted a yellow card
08:42:37  <TrueBrain> for their collection
08:42:40  <planetmaker> Oh, it was mostly the Dutch ;-)
08:42:50  <TrueBrain> hell no :)
08:43:01  <TrueBrain> 4 yellow cards for Spain because of dangerous play, was it not? :)
08:43:07  <planetmaker> 6:3
08:44:08  <TrueBrain> but okay ... worst final ever, and I noticed little soccer during :)
08:44:27  <TrueBrain> I clocked ... it took 100 minutes before they could play for 2 minutes without any error of any party :p
08:44:34  <svip> Is there a FalseBrain?
08:44:46  <TrueBrain> yes, he is sitting in your chair atm
08:44:53  <planetmaker> :-D
08:45:02  <svip> Oh, I thought he was your arch nemesis.
08:45:18  <svip> Your answer was far less interesting.
08:45:19  <planetmaker> svip, you might well become that :-P
08:45:23  <planetmaker> It's easy. Just continue
08:45:26  <svip> I doubt.
08:45:28  <svip>  it
08:45:37  <TrueBrain> planetmaker knows me too well :)
08:45:47  <planetmaker> :-)
08:45:52  <svip> Nobody cares enough about me in any fashion to consider me a nemesis or enemy or even bother hating me.
08:46:18  <TrueBrain> try harder
08:46:19  <svip> ;) It has its advantages being unnoticeable.
08:46:21  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, I can already see you play with the @kick command
08:46:29  <planetmaker> and that's the friendly version :-P
08:46:31  <TrueBrain> nah, not really :)
08:48:26  <planetmaker> I must have mixed it up with the ignore button then
08:48:51  <svip> ...
08:49:04  <TrueBrain> really, just 3 players missed a yellow card ... sad ... they could have made a perfect yellow board
08:49:12  <Fixer> :-)
08:49:38  <Fixer> indeed, gg for Spain
08:49:58  <TrueBrain> what I hate about FIFA, is that they didn't show someone almost took the cup :)
08:50:05  <svip> Well, it was obvious that Spain would win.
08:50:14  <svip> I mean, could the Netherlands *actually* win?
08:50:14  <TrueBrain> Octupus said so!
08:50:19  <Fixer> :D
08:50:28  <svip> Read line 7 and 8 of their national anthem again.
08:50:30  <Fixer> svip: yes
08:50:37  <svip> Clearly would be in contradiction with their anthem.
08:51:21  <svip> "den Koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd"
08:51:25  <Fixer> svip: 2 really serious moments (1 on 1) with goalkeeper
08:51:59  <svip> I used history to make my prediction.
08:52:16  <svip> Because football should not be judged by the skill of the play, but by the relationships between nations.
08:52:24  <Fixer> o_0
08:52:50  <TrueBrain> you are seriously weird
08:52:55  <TrueBrain> this is not the eurosongfestival
08:52:57  <TrueBrain> you know that, right?
08:53:12  <svip> Anything international competition should be judged this way.
08:53:16  <svip> Otherwise it is just sport.
08:53:25  <svip> Which doesn't really interest me.
08:53:32  <Fixer> eurofootballfestival :)
08:54:54  <TrueBrain> its all crap
08:54:56  <TrueBrain> just fun if you win ;)
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09:00:14  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: paste's down
09:00:30  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: I know
09:00:36  <TrueBrain> not even a hi, how are you?
09:00:38  <TrueBrain> tsss
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09:00:52  <SmatZ> hi, how are you?
09:01:04  <TrueBrain> I am fine, tnx for asking; you? :p
09:01:24  <SmatZ> fine here too, thanks :)
09:02:34  <__ln__> hi, why are you?
09:02:37  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: pastebin won't be fixed any time soon; I finally put down the old host to rest
09:02:57  <Rubidium> sniff :(
09:03:11  <planetmaker> oh :-(
09:03:15  <TrueBrain> and I couldn't find a good alternative
09:03:19  <Rubidium> and no rain any time soon either :(
09:04:07  <TrueBrain> there is a django-pastebin which we might be able to include
09:04:11  <TrueBrain> and maybe make it sign-in only
09:04:34  <b_jonas> hello
09:04:35  <planetmaker> <TrueBrain> and maybe make it sign-in only <-- why?
09:04:41  <b_jonas> can't you just use any other pastebin?
09:04:43  <b_jonas> do you want some urls?
09:04:49  <planetmaker> is it that much spam, if the period is short enough?
09:05:00  <planetmaker> b_jonas, we know them
09:05:04  <b_jonas> or do you need a notification on the channel? that can be arranged too
09:05:09  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: you don't want to know the amount of spam that gets posted :)
09:05:29  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, well... I only see from time to time the recent pastes.
09:05:45  <planetmaker> Which was ... well... moderate for an open pastebin
09:05:58  <TrueBrain> true, still annoying like hell
09:06:01  <planetmaker> but my impression there might of course be grossly off scale
09:06:13  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, why... it just goes by
09:06:24  <planetmaker> no one looks at it, especially as it has no links
09:06:33  <TrueBrain> true; well, it seemed like a nice idea, to make it sign-in only :)
09:06:49  <planetmaker> well... easier to use, if not :-)
09:07:30  <planetmaker> but probably it doesn't matter too much. At least for the regulars
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09:08:14  <b_jonas> just make it require a short password that goes in the topic here and changes every few days
09:08:23  <TrueBrain> but yeah, I maybe should spend a bit of time looking at the django-pastebin
09:13:08  * Rubidium thought you had plans with Xen
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09:13:48  <TrueBrain> means we need to email LW and get a new server :p
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09:14:42  <TrueBrain> owh, and it is raining here :p
09:20:48  <planetmaker> <TrueBrain> owh, and it is raining here :p <--- lucky guy!
09:21:15  <TrueBrain> yeah, it feels nice
09:25:59  <planetmaker> no doubt
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09:56:49  <dihedral> morning
09:57:09  <SmatZ> hello dihedral
10:08:08  <b_jonas> yeah, it's getting hot here too
10:09:01  <SmatZ> it was 39°C here yesterday (shaded)
10:09:12  <b_jonas> wow
10:10:05  <planetmaker> moin dihedral
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10:19:46  <Samu> hi again
10:21:26  <Samu> I could put my electronic keyboard playing tycoon music
10:21:27  <Samu> hehe
10:22:04  <Samu> there is a connector on the sound card, I think it's called MPU-401
10:23:06  <Samu> instead of listening to the music on my speakers, I would listen via the keyboard
10:23:23  <Samu> using the keyboard own's synth :p
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10:24:51  <Celestar> morning
10:24:58  <Samu> the other way around is also possible
10:25:00  <Samu> hi
10:25:36  <Samu> I could play a song on the keyboard and use the computer to receive it
10:25:55  <Samu> it would then use the computer's own synth
10:26:08  <Samu> I could also save it as a MIDI file
10:26:20  <Samu> if I have an appropriate program
10:26:37  <Samu> I did that in the past
10:26:45  <Terkhen> hi Celestar
10:29:05  <Samu> the keyboard I have
10:29:08  <Samu> is also a Roland
10:29:26  <Samu> that should help a lot in the compatibility issues
10:29:27  <__ln__> Samu: ok. understood.
10:29:28  * Celestar hits Vmware server
10:29:49  <TrueBrain> Celestar: it yells back: HARDER! HARDER!
10:30:12  <Celestar> O_o
10:30:45  <Noldo_> I've heard the Vmware is a bit kinky
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10:36:48  <Samu> no one wants music for tycoon?
10:37:48  <b_jonas> I'm sorry, I don't. I rather just listen to different musing with no game sound.
10:38:05  <b_jonas> but then I'm strange.
10:38:09  <Samu> my brother could play on his keyboard
10:38:14  <Samu> I have the cable
10:38:18  <Samu> and soundcard
10:38:23  <Samu> just need a program
10:38:38  <Samu> it would turn into a midi file
10:44:07  <Samu> I found the scream tracker, but that's for mod/s3x files
10:44:14  <Samu> can't find the program for mid
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10:47:35  <Samu> actually it's s3m
10:48:28  <__ln__> Samu: please shut up
10:49:20  <Samu> who the hell u think u are?
10:50:01  <Samu> there's me offering to make some music and u want me to go
10:50:07  <Samu> fuck you
10:51:49  <__ln__> you are flooding the channel. if you have something important to say, why not post it on the forum or something.
10:52:02  <__ln__> a monologue like that just gets ignored here most likely.
10:53:26  <Samu> can't post on the forum and can't post on irc. ok bye
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10:53:45  <peter1138> that was someone wittering on about playing with keyboards, not making music
10:54:07  <blathijs> __ln__: That was slightly impolite...
10:54:48  <__ln__> blathijs: i know
10:55:02  <Celestar> __
10:55:04  <Celestar> ??
10:55:39  <blathijs> !!
10:56:00  <__ln__> i don't remember anymore why i used so many ____
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11:04:03  <fjb> Flooding the channel is also unpolite.
11:05:10  <Rubidium> yay... rain's starting! Now lets see how long it takes to lose 10 degrees C
11:06:13  <fjb> Oh, rain? We only have some light thunder here.
11:07:41  <Rubidium> apparantly it's slightly windy (100-120 km/h gusts)
11:07:54  <Ammler> I work underground, so no need for rain :-)
11:11:51  <Rubidium> hmm... can't even get to my parents by train right now without going via Germany
11:12:53  <Rubidium> somehow trees have fallen on catenary, lightning struck catenary, transformers were struck by lightning
11:13:11  <Rubidium> what a lovely Dutch summer weather
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11:16:05  <fjb> Sounds like fun.
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11:39:11  <dihedral> __ln__: for the first time i must say, way to go :-P
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11:48:21  <Rubidium> yay... 10.8 degrees cooler in 20 minutes
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11:48:26  <Celestar> lol
11:48:35  <Celestar> everything below 30C is cold for me
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11:48:41  <planetmaker> I envy you, Rubidium
11:48:53  <Celestar> evertthing below 20C is unacceptable
11:49:19  <Celestar> this past weeked ... perfect
11:49:24  <planetmaker> everything above 25°C is unbearable hot. Anything below -15°C is too cold :-P
11:49:49  <Celestar> you sound like Deutsche Bahn
11:49:51  <Celestar> oh wait
11:49:55  <planetmaker> 15 ... 20°C is ok :-)
11:49:59  <Celestar> for them everything above 20C is too hot
11:50:04  <Markk> We've had 32-35C the last couple of days.
11:50:07  <Celestar> and evertthing below 20C is too cold
11:50:09  <Noldo_> planetmaker: around zero is bad too
11:50:09  <planetmaker> yeah. and everything below 10°C too cold
11:50:15  <planetmaker> Noldo_, why?
11:50:18  <Celestar> I feel fine with 32.
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11:50:31  <Markk> Celestar: Are you from .de?
11:50:33  <Rubidium> Celestar: 32 F?
11:50:38  <Noldo_> planetmaker: snow won't stay snow
11:50:40  <planetmaker> just because water may freeze around 32F?
11:50:47  <Celestar> yes Markk
11:50:51  <Markk> :)
11:50:53  <Celestar> Rubidium: celius :P
11:51:03  <Noldo_> planetmaker: -5 C is ideal winter temperature
11:51:27  <Celestar> sorry I have little sympathy. I was freezing my butt off for the past 9 months :P
11:52:38  <Rubidium> and he wanted to go to space... as if it's hot there
11:52:56  <Celestar> hot enough in the suits tbh >P
11:54:16  <planetmaker> Rubidium, that very much depends. On average it may be quite hot
11:54:22  <planetmaker> in the Earth's vicinity
11:55:05  <planetmaker> Noldo_, only because -5°C is nicer than 0°C it doesn't make 0°C unacceptable ;-)
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12:15:03  <Wolf01> 'afternoon
12:18:14  * Zuu wonders why he has 3 instances of OpenTTDAU open.
12:19:40  <Rubidium> because Zuu wants to be up-to-date?
12:20:06  <Zuu> Possible or I'm just to lazy to close them.
12:20:43  <svip> AU?
12:20:51  <svip> Is this an Australian version with less gore?
12:20:58  <Zuu> http://users.tt-forums.net/ottdau/
12:21:02  <svip> Because OpenTTD without the gore is no fun.
12:21:36  <Zuu> It fetches the latest nightly for you on the click of a button
12:21:43  <svip> Fancy.
12:21:48  <svip> Just like svn update
12:21:53  <svip> Only that's trunk!
12:22:00  <svip> EVEN NEWER
12:22:28  <planetmaker> *sigh*
12:22:39  <svip> Hello there.
12:22:40  <Zuu> Except that this tool gets binaries for windows only, shows the changelog etc.
12:23:05  <planetmaker> and updates to the important MP servers :-)
12:23:09  <svip> Well, it isn't that auto if you have to click the button.
12:23:19  <svip> planetmaker: The servers run Windows?
12:23:24  <svip> Crazy talk.
12:24:05  <Zuu> Well after the update it starts OpenTTD, and you can even configure it so that when you click on a shortcut on your desktop it do not show any GUI, just update and then start OpenTTD.
12:24:31  <svip> Cool.
12:24:47  <svip> I love automatic.
12:24:54  <svip> Game should be playing itself for me!
12:25:17  <Ammler> [14:24] <svip> I love automatic. <-- then make a patch, so openttd does automatically update bananas :-)
12:25:30  <svip> Bananas?
12:25:34  <Zuu> Yes
12:25:45  <svip> I am missing something funny.
12:25:51  <Zuu> http://bananas.openttd.org/
12:25:58  <Ammler> something like ./openttd --autofruits
12:26:17  <TrueBrain> funny, OpenTTD should automatically update BaNaNaS .. I wonder with what it should update it? Random new grfs?
12:26:18  * planetmaker enjoys the new silence
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12:26:34  <TrueBrain> pickle your cache and composite random stuff?
12:26:56  <svip> TrueBrain: I am not sure.
12:27:26  <Ammler> TrueBrain: in combination with joining a server
12:27:38  <Ammler> ./openttd -n... --auto
12:27:59  <TrueBrain> maybe read cosmic rays and make something worth uploading to BaNaNaS ..
12:28:06  <Zuu> Updating local grfs from bananas wolud make sense, but you wrote that OpenTTD should update bananas. :-p
12:28:20  <TrueBrain> Zuu: ssstttt, don't tell him
12:28:25  <TrueBrain> lets wait how long it takes before he catches on
12:28:38  <Zuu> Sorry to spoil your joke :-)
12:28:54  <Ammler> oh well, I except some brain, specially from True... ;-)
12:29:05  <TrueBrain> I expect readable english
12:29:07  <TrueBrain> we all have issues :D
12:29:11  <Ammler> not from me :-P
12:29:16  <svip> Readable English?  On the Internet?
12:29:21  <svip> TrueBrain: You aim to be disappoint.
12:29:27  <TrueBrain> in general, I do
12:29:40  <TrueBrain> only he who expects the most, gets the biggest disappointment :D
12:29:49  <Ammler> :-)
12:29:53  <planetmaker> :-)
12:30:01  <Zuu> :-)
12:30:18  <TrueBrain> and of course then there is PeterT :p
12:30:20  <svip> Why are you all smiling?
12:30:23  <TrueBrain> awh, that is just mean
12:30:34  <Ammler> because that looks awesome in my client :-)
12:30:47  * TrueBrain hugs PeterT, I take thatone back :)
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12:31:16  <Ammler> KDE smilies rocks
12:31:53  <Zuu> Smiling makes one happy. :-)
12:32:08  <Ammler> so true :-D
12:32:15  <TrueBrain> a day not smiles is a day not lived
12:32:19  <svip> If you do it too much, it hurts your cheeks.
12:32:28  <TrueBrain> s/s/d/
12:33:00  <Rubidium> Dunglish alert!
12:33:10  <TrueBrain> ;)
12:33:55  <Pikka> how rare
12:34:16  <Ammler> oh, btw. from*
12:35:20  * Zuu wishes for thunderstorms tonight - would be awesome - at least until the power goes down :-p
12:35:33  <TrueBrain> here the rain just left
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13:05:03  <Belugas> hello
13:07:08  * TrueBrain hugs Belugas
13:07:11  <TrueBrain> and again
13:07:13  <TrueBrain> and again
13:07:18  <planetmaker> hullo Belugas
13:07:25  <Belugas> fuuuurrrrrrrr  furrrrrrrrr furrrrrrrrrrr
13:07:40  <Belugas> hi there you sweeties :)
13:07:56  <Belugas> got a good weekend?
13:08:07  <TrueBrain> drank too much
13:08:09  <TrueBrain> parties too much
13:08:11  <TrueBrain> hell yeah!
13:09:14  <planetmaker> yup yup :-)
13:09:29  <planetmaker> I hopy you, too :-)
13:10:13  <Belugas> you bet :)
13:10:22  <Belugas> was underwater both days :)
13:10:29  <TrueBrain> nice :)
13:10:44  <Belugas> i just used two cylinders, but they are dry empty  :)
13:11:26  <Belugas> like, when i got out of the water, i would have to suck to get a little breath
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13:11:44  <Belugas> too bad, tough... i missed the football final
13:12:42  <planetmaker> it was a karate final. Not football
13:13:19  <glx> so true
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13:15:45  <Belugas> was it?
13:16:55  <TrueBrain> it was touchbal, not?
13:18:10  <planetmaker> http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,705867,00.html <-- title image, Belugas ;-)
13:18:37  <Belugas> ho boy :(
13:18:44  <Belugas> that was nasty
13:18:57  <TrueBrain> LOL @ Images
13:19:02  <TrueBrain> only show the Dutch people as bad people :p
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13:20:02  <Belugas> ho? spanish did not get that brutal?
13:20:12  <TrueBrain> less, but they were not very nice either :)
13:20:17  <SmatZ> Dutch people are not bad :) just the football players aren't very nice :-p
13:20:22  <TrueBrain> 9 yellow cards for Netherlands, 5 for Spain .. says enough :p
13:20:44  <planetmaker> and a red one ;-)
13:20:52  <TrueBrain> the red was a production of 2 yellow
13:20:54  <SmatZ> there could be two more I would say :-p
13:20:55  <TrueBrain> so that is not really red :)
13:20:56  <planetmaker> <SmatZ> Dutch people are not bad :) just the football players aren't very nice :-p <-- I subscribe to that, too :-)
13:21:04  <TrueBrain> SmatZ: well .. just 2? :p
13:21:18  <TrueBrain> even the keeper almost had one ..
13:21:22  <planetmaker> SmatZ, 4 more ;-)
13:21:32  <planetmaker> 14 all in all per team
13:21:41  <planetmaker> which is... 5 more :-P
13:22:06  <TrueBrain> never a final had that many yellow cards
13:22:15  <TrueBrain> then again, I remember another game of the Netherlands, which had the same :p
13:24:03  <SmatZ> one of Dutch players deserved second yellow card in 23. minute, in my opinion :)
13:24:08  <SmatZ> but it would be too cruel
13:24:22  <planetmaker> yeah
13:24:50  <TrueBrain> many more should have been given
13:24:54  <TrueBrain> but you also need to keep a game going :)
13:25:04  <planetmaker> it seemed that after 15 minutes it was decided that by fair play the Spain would win ;-)
13:25:22  <TrueBrain> planetmaker: that is not completely true :) Spain is only better trained to hide it :)
13:25:33  <planetmaker> and then hack & slay on both parts continued till... dunno. way in the 2nd half
13:25:58  <planetmaker> TrueBrain, nah :-)
13:26:04  <TrueBrain> but I laughed my ass off when NL got Yellow for talking to the referee over and over :p
13:26:12  <planetmaker> Spain played allegedly the fairest world championship
13:26:58  <TrueBrain> halfway in the game we were wondering what would happen if we put things like robots in the field
13:27:03  <TrueBrain> which randomly bump you
13:27:05  <TrueBrain> or try to hurt you
13:27:09  <TrueBrain> or flamethrowers :)
13:27:17  <TrueBrain> btw, did you see that someone almost stole the cup before the match?
13:27:58  <planetmaker> not really. I only afterwards saw that *some person* was draged away for *some reason*
13:28:13  <TrueBrain> he came VERY close to touching it :)
13:28:20  <planetmaker> :-)
13:30:14  <Belugas> mmh... so it sems i missed quite a circus then :)
13:30:14  <SmatZ> :)
13:30:18  <TrueBrain> circus
13:30:20  <TrueBrain> good name
13:30:30  <planetmaker> indeed
13:30:57  <SmatZ> [15:27:09] <TrueBrain> or try to hurt you <== hehe
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13:40:07  <Belugas> and ho boy... so much beauties at those dives :)
13:40:16  <Belugas> lucky i brough my camera ;)
13:41:06  <Belugas> but...hey... it's a little bit ...hem... disturbing to shoot those cuties
13:41:25  <Belugas> l mean... the lens is big and it's noticeable, so they KNOW you are shooting them
13:41:53  <Belugas> and then, you have to analyse the shots at home with your wife over your shoulder
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13:41:55  <Belugas> hemm...
13:42:27  <Zuu> So maybe it is good that they see when you shoot them :-)
13:42:28  <Belugas> "they asked me to do so, I swear!  I was just for the dragonflies!!"
13:42:57  <TrueBrain> lol @ Belugas :)
13:43:05  <Belugas> indeed Zuu, indeed :)
13:43:24  <planetmaker> loool :-)
13:43:48  <planetmaker> "they forced me, honestly! I had no choice...!" ;-)
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14:02:11  * fjb got forced once because they didn't belive that a person with a SLR is not from the press.
14:02:42  <Belugas> :)
14:02:55  <Belugas> slr is good to pick up girls
14:02:57  <planetmaker> :-D
14:02:57  <Belugas> buwahahah!!!
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14:48:16  <Eddi|zuHause> So... "Dutch Hattrick", eh?
14:48:33  <Eddi|zuHause> [3 times finals, 3 times lost]
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16:26:54  <SpComb> "not a Cargodist problem perse"
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17:03:11  <planetmaker> Rubidium: we got a mass-desync...
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17:03:39  <Rubidium> ... and we didn't run with desync debugging turned on
17:03:42  <planetmaker> If you care... I enabled the desync debug level 3, not long before
17:03:45  <planetmaker> we did :-)
17:03:58  <planetmaker> I saw one before and enabled it.
17:04:00  <planetmaker> and re-loaded
17:04:10  <Rubidium> in any case... don't have the time to get into any debugging
17:04:19  <planetmaker> you want to get the data?
17:04:21  <Ammler> :-P
17:04:23  <planetmaker> despite?
17:04:54  <Rubidium> well... you shouldn't throw it away
17:14:52  <planetmaker> well... ok. I put stuff in a separate dir.
17:15:00  <planetmaker> May it rest in pieces
17:15:15  <planetmaker> anything else than the command log, the dmps and the start savegame?
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17:33:50  <planetmaker> ok... crashes instead of desyncs on current nightly...
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17:38:47  <planetmaker> zoom function:NOT_REACHED triggered at line 139 of /Users/ingo/ottd/autostart/ps.openttdcoop.org-3979-svn/src/slope_func.h
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17:39:12  <planetmaker> in r20128
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17:45:39  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: translators * r20131 /trunk/src/lang/ (bulgarian.txt korean.txt portuguese.txt russian.txt):
17:45:39  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:39  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 6 changes by kokobongo
17:45:39  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: korean - 5 changes by junho2813
17:45:39  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: portuguese - 9 changes by ABCRic
17:45:40  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: russian - 9 changes by Lone_Wolf
17:46:33  <Rubidium> planetmaker: stack traces are more useful than telling some NOT_REACHED got triggered
17:47:04  <planetmaker> Vitus posted the full thing
17:47:05  <Rubidium> compare "I did desync" vs "desync and here is the log and everything needed to reproduce it"
17:47:21  <planetmaker> and I knew he uploads it the moment I posted it here :-)
17:48:15  <Rubidium> ah well... so there's something for glx to decode
17:48:21  <planetmaker> Stacktrace:
17:48:23  <planetmaker>  [00] openttd              0x00000001001736eb (CrashLog::FillCrashLog(char*, char const*) const + 331)
17:48:24  <planetmaker>  [01] openttd              0x0000000100268f34 (HandleCrash(int) + 228)
17:48:26  <planetmaker>  [02] libSystem.B.dylib    0x00007fff858b335a (_sigtramp + 26)
17:48:27  <planetmaker> ^ that's my full one
17:48:38  <planetmaker> join server, zoom and crash
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17:49:12  <planetmaker> I guess I add it there, too
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17:49:16  <Rubidium> planetmaker: and does it happen when you're scrolling around?
17:49:29  <Rubidium> planetmaker: that stack trace is worse than useless :(
17:50:11  <Ammler> [19:48] <planetmaker> join server, zoom and crash <-- zoom?
17:50:21  <planetmaker> Rubidium: I joined. Map was zoomed in. Then I zoomed out and maybe a bit downwards.
17:50:41  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes
17:50:45  <Ammler> then it looks quite much like something with the new zoom patch?
17:50:58  <Rubidium> planetmaker: I would say it has nothing to do with the actual zooming, but rather with more of the map being drawn
17:51:29  <Ammler> is it possible that something like that is network aware?
17:51:30  <Rubidium> i.e. likely frosch123's snow stuff
17:51:31  <planetmaker> which may well be true
17:51:57  <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/patches/zoom_r20035.diff
17:52:22  <glx> if it's clean trunk and you have the dmp, I can do something
17:52:29  <Rubidium> glx: see fs
17:52:42  <Vitus> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3944 if you wish
17:52:43  <planetmaker> Rubidium: yes. It's not zoom
17:52:51  <planetmaker> moving around on the paused server is sufficient
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17:53:38  <planetmaker> but there was no snow visible where it crashed
17:54:31  <Rubidium> that doesn't mean it can't be one of frosch snow related commits
17:54:57  <planetmaker> true
17:55:07  <frosch123> i guess i added only one usage of GetHighestSlopeCorner
17:55:42  <Rubidium> TrueBrain: WT3 made a big snafu when committing; it completely empties bulgarian.txt (and it's still locked)
17:58:50  <Sacro> <3 Abba
17:59:29  <glx> trace added
18:00:31  <frosch123> yup, that is the GetHighestSlopeCorner i added yesterday
18:02:21  <glx>         s    1241888    Slope
18:02:36  <glx> but I don't know if the value is still right
18:03:05  <frosch123> i hope not..
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18:05:38  <frosch123> @base 10 16 37
18:05:38  <DorpsGek> frosch123: 25
18:06:31  <glx> called with SLOPE_FLAT it seems
18:07:34  <frosch123> for me with 37, which is invalid afaik :)
18:09:08  <frosch123> ah, i know what case i forgot...
18:14:09  <frosch123> did someone already report, that bridgetransparency does not affect the track on the bridge... or is that a feature?
18:15:51  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r20132 /trunk/src/elrail.cpp: -Fix [FS#3944](r20126): There can also be halftile foundations on slopes with opposite corners raised.
18:15:58  <frosch123> anyway, you reported 30 minutes too late :p
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18:26:01  <planetmaker> :-)
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18:52:49  <frosch123> btw. who broke #notice :)
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18:55:34  <Ammler> frosch123: #openttdcoop uses r20080, why does r20132 fix that?
18:56:14  <frosch123> "Crash in recenty nightly (r20128) "
18:56:19  <frosch123> what is about 20080 ?
18:56:46  <Ammler> #3944 is reported with that
18:56:52  <frosch123> This happened after updating server from r20080 to r20128.
18:56:54  <Rubidium> Ammler: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3944/getfile/6321/crash.log <- tells 20128
18:57:00  <Ammler> oh
18:57:38  <Ammler> confusing :-)
18:58:07  <Eddi|zuHause> http://8bitcity.com/map?Berlin
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18:58:42  <planetmaker> Ammler: I updated to r20128 in order to avoid possibly the desyncs or get that data at least for a more recent nightly
18:58:58  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: looks like 4bit city
18:58:59  <planetmaker> But... there we didn't get that far. Thus 20080 again
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18:59:13  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: maybe ;)
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19:36:19  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: frosch * r20133 /: -Revert (r20130): Vehicles could deadlock themself in roadstops.
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20:02:23  <andythenorth> evening
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20:10:36  <Zuu> ohoj
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20:35:15  <frosch123> night
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20:36:08  <Sacro> anyone here running ubuntu?
20:36:49  <__ln__> everyone's too ashamed to admit
20:37:02  <Sacro> i need to konw what package contains /etc/pam.d/other
20:37:02  <orudge> Sacro: yes, why?
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20:37:19  <Sacro> there was a ... incident
20:37:22  <b_jonas> I tried it once and decided not to, but there are some people on irc running it
20:37:37  <orudge> an incident, I think you'll find.
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20:40:28  <Sacro> Yes
20:40:32  <Sacro> so I broked it
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21:02:16  <Rubidium> Sacro: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=%2Fetc%2Fpam.d%2Fother&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
21:02:41  <Sacro> cheers
21:09:28  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: sounds bad
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21:10:57  <TrueBrain> OOM
21:11:09  <TrueBrain> sh: line 1:  7218 Killed                  translator/scripts/language-output-openttd.py trunk 'Bulgarian' IGNORE > tmp/bulgarian.txt
21:12:01  <SpComb> tsk
21:12:09  <SpComb> check process exit status
21:12:22  <TrueBrain> svnserve was consuming 400+ MiB
21:12:25  <TrueBrain> Rubidium: didn't you limit that?
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21:13:05  <Rubidium> yes-ish
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21:13:51  <TrueBrain> either way, I can make a commit now which corrects it
21:13:56  <TrueBrain> or let tomorrow WT3.0 commit do it
21:14:14  <Rubidium> and it should've been killed by then... maybe there were multiple svnserve processes?!? I seem to remember it spawning others which aren't under the influence of the memory limiter though
21:14:46  <Rubidium> does the lock on WT3 bother translators?
21:14:52  <TrueBrain> yes, there were 5 of 70+
21:17:03  <Terkhen> good night
21:18:58  <TrueBrain> meh, WT3.0 made boo-hoos now
21:19:11  <TrueBrain> lost the headers :p
21:19:56  <TrueBrain> the 6 changes will be lost
21:21:17  <CIA-9> OpenTTD: truebrain * r20134 /trunk/src/lang/bulgarian.txt: -Revert (r20131): OOM is a nasty person
21:22:11  <Rubidium> yeah, nonkel's bad
21:22:27  <TrueBrain> reloading the Bulgarian language in WT3 now
21:23:26  <TrueBrain> there it goes
21:23:29  <TrueBrain> should be okay again
21:23:34  <TrueBrain> only lost the 6 changes
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21:45:41  <PeterT> TrueBrain: you highlighted me?
21:46:00  <PeterT> oh, there was hugging when I was not present
21:46:01  <Zuu> He spoke about you
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23:15:01  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:20:48  <functionofxy__> is there some way to issue an order for all buses with less than a certain # of profit to go to depot? I want to get rid of a few hundred buses the ai created.
23:21:01  <functionofxy__> (i bought the ai company)
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23:22:28  <Eddi|zuHause> functionofxy: no
23:22:47  <Eddi|zuHause> functionofxy: you can sort by profit, and drag each bus to a group
23:22:54  <Eddi|zuHause> then send all of that group to depot
23:23:06  <functionofxy> I was hoping for a console trick. oh man, this is going to take a while
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23:23:38  <Eddi|zuHause> there is unfortunately no mass-move-to-group, except for shared orders...
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23:41:54  <OwenS> Well, the new stack has landed on the Deepwater Horizon at last
23:43:00  <OwenS> Interesting sticker on the side. "Transocean\n THINK twice, Act once!!"
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