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00:01:53 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:56 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:32 *** Cyborgmatt [~Cyborgmat@94-193-80-49.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:33:41 <Cyborgmatt> Is oil a good source of income? 00:35:34 <Rubidium> not if you're filling the Gulf with it, but otherwise check the in-game cargo payment graph 00:42:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:43:24 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:53:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never not made any profit with any cargo... 00:54:22 <Rubidium> planetmaker: you definitely need some sleep... 00:54:55 <planetmaker> maybe... is it wrong? 00:55:38 <Rubidium> https://secure.openttd.org/bugs/task/3988/getfile/6387/Nunway%20Transport,%2024-04-1950.png <- please explain where the oil train is that I need to follow 00:56:43 <Rubidium> also it's questionable whether refit costs are part of yearly revenue 00:57:01 <planetmaker> e.g. those between Great Budinghall East and Harwell 00:57:03 <Rubidium> because should autoreplace/autorenew also be part of that? 00:57:34 <planetmaker> That's a new vehicle in that case... but it's arguable. 00:57:46 <Rubidium> planetmaker: there is only Nunway Seeblick and Nunway Hafen, oh... and three ships 00:57:49 <planetmaker> But costs incured due to the schedule feel like running costs 00:58:11 *** Denglade [~blablabla@user100.77-105-228.netatonce.net] has joined #openttd 00:58:18 *** Zahl [~Zahl@frbg-d9be32db.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 00:58:28 <Denglade> Hello, is it possible to transport oil via airplanes? 00:58:48 <glx> not without newgrf 00:59:04 <Rubidium> I think there is an airplane NewGRF that can make (some) airplanes transport oil, but I've got no idea how it's called 00:59:33 <planetmaker> Rubidium: savegame attached. Not a random screenshot ;-) 01:00:08 <planetmaker> Denglade: it's some av8 newgrf possibly 01:01:01 <Rubidium> pff... 01:01:11 <Rubidium> I'm definitely up way to late again... 01:01:26 <Rubidium> "stupid" forum backups! :) 01:01:52 <Rubidium> so, time for nighty night 01:02:17 <planetmaker> night, Rubidium 01:03:13 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 01:05:00 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-26-106.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:10:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:45:41 *** FauxFaux [faux@molotov.compsoc.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:18 *** FauxFaux [faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 02:08:57 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Ohlol] 02:19:11 *** Aali [~aali@h-90-31.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:23:27 *** fjb is now known as Guest39 02:23:28 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[~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:34 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 08:22:31 <Rubidium> better than "flying house" 08:30:13 <SmatZ> hehe :) 08:32:51 <roboboy> hello 08:33:21 <SmatZ> hello 08:33:26 <planetmaker> moin 08:33:43 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-55-185.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has joined #openttd 08:34:58 <__ln__> cook islands? 08:40:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:42:06 <chrisi> hey, i have a question regarding how to start with openttd-coding 08:43:14 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 08:43:42 <__ln__> 1. open your editor, 2. code, 3. profit 08:45:12 <Ammler> 4. get rich 08:45:18 <SmatZ> :) 08:45:46 <Ammler> 5. don't drink :-P 08:46:14 <SmatZ> :p 08:46:47 <chrisi> the first thing is: I have downloaded the code via svn. Now i want to use it with code::blocks/kdevelop/codelite or something else. I have seen that there are VS project files in the source code tree. I can import them but it it's only configured for win. 08:46:47 <chrisi> How can i import the sourcecode as a project to use it with ubuntu? 08:47:14 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-158.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47:37 <Ammler> chrisi: if you use kdevelop, just keep the projects file locally, should work fine 08:48:44 *** De_Ghosty [~s@69-196-134-158.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 08:51:14 <Terkhen> good morning 08:57:54 <Alberth> good morning Terkhen 08:58:48 <planetmaker> moin Terkhen 08:59:17 <Alberth> chrisi: there are also developers at the windows platform, that's why those files are there. At linux, just ignore them 08:59:55 <planetmaker> chrisi, on linux you just run ./configure && make 09:00:05 <__ln__> kdevelop was made by someone who doesn't actually use it. otherwise it couldn't be so unusable. 09:00:08 <planetmaker> and then you're set. There are no special project files for other things than VS 09:00:27 <planetmaker> or I missed them. Actually I don't. 09:01:27 <Ammler> netbeans might be an alternative 09:02:13 <Terkhen> Qt creator can import OpenTTD too, but it won't run configure for you (at least in windows it doesn't) 09:02:33 <planetmaker> probably eclipse would work, too... 09:02:46 <planetmaker> as would xcode. 09:05:47 <chrisi> to run configure && make i dont need any IDE. But i want to. I want to use the benefits of codeblocks for example. To get this i have to create an openttd project. But i dont know the compiler/linker options etc. That's why i want to import an existing project 09:07:02 <planetmaker> chrisi, run ./configure. Then you'll get a Makefile which has all the compiler and linker options. 09:07:07 <planetmaker> But ONLY for your machine 09:07:33 <planetmaker> and as that varies from machine to machine... more difficult to get it right in a universal way 09:07:48 <planetmaker> there's at least a dozen libraries which are checked 09:07:56 <chrisi> that much is clear 09:08:21 <planetmaker> well: then the answer is: you have to do it yourself 09:08:28 <__ln__> any sensible IDE will let you use 'make' as the build command. 09:08:53 <planetmaker> indeed 09:10:38 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has joined #openttd 09:12:09 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:14 <TomyLobo> hi 09:12:19 <TomyLobo> what is a "double slip switch"? 09:12:31 <TomyLobo> it's mentioned here, near the end: http://wiki.openttd.org/Yet_Another_PBS_Patch 09:15:02 <planetmaker> Did you ever try to put those three words copy & paste in your browser's URL / search field? 09:15:24 <TomyLobo> oh, i thought it's an openttd term :D 09:15:49 <planetmaker> yes, also OpenTTD terms are searchable via search engines. Behold 09:16:02 <TomyLobo> i searched the wiki 09:17:18 <TomyLobo> hmm ok so what is it in openttd then? just a 45° crossover? 09:17:27 <planetmaker> google search even there helps sometimes: it covers both tt-forums and wiki :-) 09:17:45 <TomyLobo> forums, good idea 09:18:02 <planetmaker> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Double_slip_at_Munich_central.jpg/150px-Double_slip_at_Munich_central.jpg 09:18:10 <planetmaker> ^ straight from the wiki article. 09:18:26 <planetmaker> so yes 09:18:39 <TomyLobo> ok 09:19:24 <TomyLobo> so that's why my trains avoid them if i build tracks around them :) 09:19:46 <TomyLobo> what's the default penalty for a piece of straight track? 09:20:12 <TomyLobo> to see the relations 09:22:43 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@175.107.140.78] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20231 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: -Document: which version had which savegame version 09:25:50 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has joined #openttd 09:41:00 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 09:42:17 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-55-185.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:14 *** Yexo_ [~Yexo@77-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 09:44:14 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:971:541f:2655:d8f2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44:30 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:d908:36fc:d5bc:908f] has joined #openttd 09:46:09 *** DorpsGek` [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 09:46:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek`] by ChanServ 09:47:23 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:45 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20232 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: -Codechange: shuffle a few functions around so they don't need to be declared in advance 09:47:46 *** TomyLobo2 [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:20 *** erani_ [eran-@garde.fi] has joined #openttd 09:48:21 *** ashb_ [~ash@callisto.firemirror.com] has joined #openttd 09:48:23 *** tneo_ [~tneo@vs241204.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 09:48:38 *** peter1139 [~petern@lachesis.fuzzle.org] has joined #openttd 09:48:47 *** rasco_ [rasco@tietos.com] has joined #openttd 09:48:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20233 /trunk/src/saveload/saveload.cpp: -Codechange: fix/unify coding and comment style a bit 09:48:48 *** snorre_ [~snorre@c692BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 09:48:50 *** SpComb^_ [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 09:48:56 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: lennard, Alberth, ashb, tneo, rasco, Progman, Yexo, ntx, Dreamxtreme, @peter1138, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 09:48:56 *** TomyLobo2 is now known as TomyLobo 09:48:59 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:49:11 *** Netsplit over, joins: ntx 09:50:00 *** DorpsGek` is now known as DorpsGek 09:50:46 *** CaptObvious [~matt@cpc3-darl7-2-0-cust55.know.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:52:14 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.111.164] has joined #openttd 09:53:35 *** lennard [lennard@lennardk2.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 09:59:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C35C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:48 *** DJNekkid [~DJ___Nekk@static128-249.mimer.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:09 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 10:00:13 *** SpComb^_ is now known as SpComb 10:00:55 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:01:15 *** murr4y [~murray@169.84-49-70.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 10:07:29 *** chrisi [~chrisi@erft-4db7c235.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [] 10:18:26 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-113-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:20:44 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-3-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:20:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:25:24 *** Amis_ [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has joined #openttd 10:30:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.190] has joined #openttd 10:31:11 <Ammler> how do I setup ignores with svn and commit? 10:31:25 <Ammler> svn propedt svn:ignore . 10:31:32 <Ammler> but then how do commit that? 10:31:42 <Progman> svn commit 10:31:55 <Progman> then you see something like " M ." in your svn changelog 10:32:25 <peter1139> i've increased 10:32:26 *** Amis__ [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:35:41 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:35:56 <Rubidium> all hail the new and improved peter! :) 10:36:07 <Ammler> hmm, and how to commit properities only? 10:36:43 <__ln__> Ammler: by doing the changes in a clean checkout and committing all. 10:36:58 <__ln__> dunno, maybe there's another way too. 10:37:04 <Ammler> :-) 10:37:10 <Ammler> then I revert the rest 10:38:16 <Progman> not sure if "svn commit ." works 10:38:59 <Progman> or maybe with --changelist 10:39:12 <Ammler> mÀh, I guess, I do a hg convert... 10:41:43 <Alberth> svn commit file_with_changed_property 10:42:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:42:13 <peter1139> vim .gitignore 10:43:08 <welshdragon> aah, old school IRC Client ftw 10:43:49 <Ammler> Alberth: that would be ".", but I also fail to define ignore for .tcl but not example.tcl 10:48:11 <Progman> add an ignore for all *.tcl files but not example.tcl? 10:48:26 <Alberth> .tcl should get the first one 10:48:59 <Progman> if the file example.tcl is in the repository its not ignored anymore 10:49:41 <Progman> so you can put "*.tcl" in the svn:ignore property AND have example.tcl in the repository 10:53:23 <Alberth> Ammler: you can specify --non-recursive with svn commit 11:02:53 *** Moses [Moses@i5E8603AA.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:04:14 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 11:06:18 *** oniik [~Alexander@171.85-200-14.bkkb.no] has joined #openttd 11:10:28 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r11kx196.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 11:18:33 <TomyLobo> for some reason one of my full goods trains caused a station to receive goods from a nearby factory 11:19:00 <Eddi|zuHause> use "no loading" option... 11:19:07 <TomyLobo> i have no idea how or why it got there since it's usually on a different track 11:19:33 <Eddi|zuHause> or "non-stop" 11:19:36 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause i didnt set one of the orders to nonstop 11:19:54 <Eddi|zuHause> you can make non-stop the default ;) 11:20:15 <TomyLobo> yes, but for some it makes my trains not service anymore 11:20:21 <TomyLobo> +reason 11:20:39 <Eddi|zuHause> huh? 11:20:53 <TomyLobo> everything is fine since i removed the nonstopness 11:21:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never heard of a correlation between non-stop and servicing 11:22:10 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: care to provide a small test game showing the effect? 11:22:15 <Alberth> perhaps you don't have enough depots? trains do not look for a depot for servicing all the time 11:22:32 <TomyLobo> maybe, but i wanted to exclude all sources of error ^^ 11:22:56 <TomyLobo> how can i get rid of the cargo being shipped to that station btw? 11:23:05 <TomyLobo> train crash? :) 11:23:17 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: rating will drop and cargo will disappear on its own 11:23:25 <Alberth> remove the station, wait until the sign has disappeared, build a new one 11:23:25 <TomyLobo> it drops too slow :/ 11:23:35 <TomyLobo> Alberth done that 3 times now 11:23:36 <TomyLobo> no 11:23:42 <TomyLobo> not a 4th time :) 11:24:14 <TomyLobo> ctrl+click helps too btw, no need to wait for the sign 11:24:22 <Alberth> first take away the cause :) 11:24:38 <TomyLobo> i thought i had 11:24:40 <TomyLobo> 3 times 11:25:04 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: maybe it went servicing and then got lost? 11:25:11 <TomyLobo> probably 11:25:42 <TomyLobo> do they aim for the closest depot? 11:25:53 <TomyLobo> or shortest path? 11:26:03 <Alberth> every now and then they look for one 11:26:09 <TomyLobo> yes but which one 11:26:11 <Alberth> and take the one they happen to find 11:26:11 <Eddi|zuHause> they look at the pathfinder every now and then 11:26:27 <TomyLobo> so shortest path? 11:26:29 <TomyLobo> thanks 11:26:29 <Alberth> and that may be one from a different statron 11:26:53 <TomyLobo> the problem is: there is a long track with no depots at all :) 11:26:54 <Eddi|zuHause> you can set the maximum distance in the settings 11:27:12 <TomyLobo> no branches either 11:28:11 <Alberth> you can add depots everywhere :) 11:28:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i miss out on all this servicing "fun", because i play without breakdowns 11:28:23 <Markk> Same here. 11:28:25 <TomyLobo> not on top of railway :D 11:28:37 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: oh, you take the easy way out :p 11:28:44 <TomyLobo> it's actually 3 lines, no room for depots 11:28:44 <Markk> Getting tired of breakdowns pretty quick. :P 11:28:55 <TomyLobo> most of it is through cities too 11:29:11 <Markk> Build a short tunnel under av depot? 11:29:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: there's no sane way to put depots in my networks ;) 11:29:18 <Alberth> Markk: consistently buy an enegine with a high reliability 11:29:26 <TomyLobo> that, for some reason, almost halts my trains 11:29:47 <Markk> TomyLobo: Oh, you are using Original acceleration. 11:29:55 <Markk> Change it to realistic. 11:30:10 <TomyLobo> Markk i use realistic acceleration 11:30:28 <TomyLobo> argh, wtf why is it on "original"? 11:30:30 <Alberth> if they are not serviced often enough, reliability goes down, and you get more breakdowns to the point that the entire network gets stuck 11:30:32 <Markk> Alberth: Yeah, but it still breakdown sometimes. 11:30:53 <Markk> And how/why does a electric loco breakdown? 11:30:58 <Alberth> Markk: make your tracks less busy 11:31:14 <TomyLobo> i must have set that to original for testing set it back right after an autosave, which i loaded at some point 11:31:16 <TomyLobo> dangit 11:32:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Markk: there's plenty of things that can break down in an electric loco 11:32:29 <Alberth> probably more than in a steam engine :) 11:32:42 <Markk> :P 11:32:49 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i don't remember any steam engine with a broken AC :p 11:33:09 <Markk> :D 11:33:15 <Eddi|zuHause> or which got stuck because ice melted on top of it... 11:33:26 <Markk> Oh, we've just passed 10-12 cars with caravans. 11:33:47 <Alberth> running a steam engine in a tunnel is not such a good idea either :) 11:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause> Markk: those are called "dutch people" :p 11:34:23 <Markk> Eddi|zuHause: Haha, acctually it's most german people with caravans here. 11:34:26 <Markk> :) 11:34:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C35C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:35:01 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:36:04 <Eddi|zuHause> http://xkcd.com/ <-- that's totally something for Belugas :p 11:36:10 <Markk> :D 11:36:23 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:36:33 <Markk> That why we shouldn't add more realism in OpenTTD. ;) 11:37:00 <Wolf01> hello 11:37:25 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: good one :) 11:37:30 <Alberth> hello Wolf01 11:38:52 <Alberth> Markk: only if it enhances game play 11:46:38 <TomyLobo> oh right i remember why i hate realistic acceleration 11:46:47 <TomyLobo> and why i disabled it for a bit ^^ 11:46:57 <TomyLobo> trains entering depots... 11:47:06 <Markk> Mhm. 11:47:22 *** Aali [~aali@h-90-31.A189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 11:47:23 <Markk> Build a side track that has a depot in it. 11:47:32 <TomyLobo> how many? 11:47:35 <Markk> So it doesn't slow down the main tracks. 11:51:48 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1902:dbdd:a3e:878e] has joined #openttd 11:51:51 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:52:21 <Alberth> Markk: http://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Main_Line_Depot#Advanced_depot_configurations 11:54:28 <Markk> Alberth: Send that link to TomyLobo. :) 11:54:42 <Alberth> oh yeah. Sorry 11:54:45 <Markk> :) 11:55:06 <Markk> Now I'm at our end station. 11:55:10 <Markk> Ciao. :) 11:55:31 <ccfreak2k> TomyLobo, you could also get super fancy with an injector and loop. 11:57:23 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 11:57:53 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:58:37 <TomyLobo> Alberth nice, but none of this fits here 11:59:02 <TomyLobo> i have N/S E/W lines, mostly through cities 11:59:08 <TomyLobo> i dont have nearly enough room for this 12:01:50 <TomyLobo> 1% rating, still delivering cargo 12:01:56 <TomyLobo> and what the hell it just increased 12:02:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "The Powys County Council in Wales warned the maker of Welsh Dragon susages [...] to not mislead customers into thinking the product contained dragon meat." :p 12:02:26 <TomyLobo> why does my rating for goods increase if i dont transport them? 12:02:37 <Eddi|zuHause> *sausages 12:02:39 <TomyLobo> it went up to 5% 12:03:08 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: after a train appeared, the rating will slowly rise for a while 12:03:23 <TomyLobo> huh? 12:03:30 <TomyLobo> there are no goods trains 12:04:00 <TomyLobo> all of my goods trains have only non-stop orders now 12:04:06 <TomyLobo> and none of them has an order for this station 12:05:00 <TomyLobo> now it's back up to 20 -_- 12:05:54 <TomyLobo> i'll cause a small train crash 12:06:46 <TomyLobo> 0% \o/ 12:07:09 <TomyLobo> dang, that also killed the rating for my other station 12:07:40 <Eddi|zuHause> it kills the ratings of all stations around... 12:08:00 <TomyLobo> good to know, i'll just do the train crash elsewhere :) 12:09:56 <TomyLobo> that worked *g* 12:19:34 <Eddi|zuHause> you can also crash a truck, that may be cheaper ;) 12:23:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 12:24:28 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.121.17] has joined #openttd 12:25:02 <NoBrainHere> there's a file missing in my install folder 12:26:36 *** darkomen [4dc106d9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:26:44 <darkomen> Hi all 12:27:03 <NoBrainHere> a cfg is missing 12:27:18 <NoBrainHere> d:\progra~1\openttd\openttd.cfg 12:27:28 <Alberth> openttd.cfg gets created when you run openttd for the first time 12:27:28 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:27:35 <Rubidium> oh... not HIM again 12:27:37 <ccfreak2k> Short file names! 12:27:58 <darkomen> Anyone can help me? I search a version of OTTD for Windows, the r15952 12:28:16 <Rubidium> hi darkomen 12:28:24 <darkomen> To use a patch with 12:28:30 <Rubidium> darkomen: if that ever were a nightly the binaries are now removed 12:28:47 <NoBrainHere> instead it, and the download sector, sneak into my account. 12:28:59 <darkomen> ok 12:29:06 <Rubidium> even so, you need the source for patching, so checking out the source repository's trunk at revision 15952 should do the trick 12:29:22 <NoBrainHere> I thought OTTD was portable... 12:29:26 <darkomen> Can i find 0.7 RC2? 12:30:10 *** mode/#openttd [+q *!*@178.34.121.17] by Rubidium 12:30:20 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.121.17] has left #openttd [] 12:30:27 <darkomen> it's to use this little patch: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=776470#p776470 12:30:28 <Forked> +q ? crazy network 12:30:39 <Rubidium> darkomen: www.openttd.org/download-testing/0.7.0-RC2 12:30:48 <darkomen> thank you :) 12:30:51 <Rubidium> but then, why would you want that? 12:31:08 <TomyLobo> +q is essentially +b without blocking people from joining 12:31:27 <ccfreak2k> +quiet 12:31:29 <ccfreak2k> +banned 12:31:33 <darkomen> to use the automatic giant screen patch to make Timelapse videos 12:31:47 <Rubidium> too bad he figured out that +q means that whatever he says won't be noticed 12:32:08 <SmatZ> :D 12:32:24 *** mode/#openttd [+q *!yuraconst@*] by Rubidium 12:32:53 <Rubidium> hope the user name block works longer than the IP "block" 12:33:13 <Rubidium> that person is really persistent in being an annoying troll 12:33:27 <planetmaker> the nick is programme 12:33:45 <TomyLobo> i keep getting "train is lost" on trains that are like 10 meters from their destination 12:34:09 <darkomen> Hum, can i have two versions of OTTD? Setup say that i can't install an older version of OTTD because i have a newer version :/ 12:34:13 <Rubidium> then there're likely some broken signals 12:34:28 <TomyLobo> Rubidium no, they eventually find their destination 12:34:43 <Rubidium> darkomen: you can, but you can't install two at the same time. You just need to extract the archive and use that 12:34:59 <darkomen> ok, thank you 12:35:00 <TomyLobo> though i did do some railway restructuring ^^ 12:35:40 <Alberth> TomyLobo: using a path that you expect? sometimes it says such things when you are missing some piece of track 12:35:50 <TomyLobo> i dont know 12:35:56 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: if a train is lost, i.e. the pathfinder can't find a route (without turning at a station and such), it'll go into random places and eventually it might find a route again 12:35:57 <TomyLobo> i have hundreds of trains 12:36:12 *** KarlMay [Moses@i5E861EDD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:48 <planetmaker> darkomen, it should most probable be not too difficult to update the timelapse patch to current versions 12:37:13 *** Dozzer_X [~eBOR@109.99.23.30] has joined #openttd 12:37:46 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: I have had almost a thousand trains and none of them got lost because of the pathfinder; they only got lost because I removed connections and/or placed signals incorrectly 12:38:09 <Dozzer_X> Romanians here? 12:38:24 <TomyLobo> Rubidium i mean i lost overview :D 12:38:39 <planetmaker> then build more tidy 12:38:42 <planetmaker> and group trains 12:38:47 <TomyLobo> ok i found out how it happens 12:38:51 <planetmaker> use shared orders 12:39:00 <TomyLobo> train waits at signal 12:39:09 <TomyLobo> turns around because it waits to long 12:39:15 <TomyLobo> cant find a path -> lost 12:40:47 *** Moses [Moses@i5E8603AA.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:05 <darkomen> planetmaker, if i know how to do that, sure it's not too difficult... 12:41:48 <darkomen> but i dont know any programmation language :/ 12:42:07 <Belugas> hello 12:42:17 <darkomen> hey 12:42:38 *** peter1139 is now known as peter1138 12:42:39 <planetmaker> darkomen, ok, then it's difficult :-) 12:42:40 <Eddi|zuHause> you can disable turning around 12:42:42 <planetmaker> hey Belugas 12:43:16 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause and it's not gonna break anything? 12:43:58 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, love your url :) 12:44:00 <Alberth> hello Belugas 12:44:07 <Belugas> hello planetmaker and hello Alberth 12:44:09 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: i thought so :) 12:44:16 <TomyLobo> i have mostly one-way track which doesnt really allow turning around ^^ 12:44:25 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: i hope you read the alt-text ;) 12:44:28 <Belugas> hoo.... and hello darkomen, if you are the same as in TTFF :) 12:44:35 <Belugas> alt text? no, i did not. 12:44:39 <Belugas> i 'll do it now 12:44:44 *** Uresu [~Wes@5aceb719.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 12:45:00 <darkomen> yes, i'm the same ^_^ 12:45:10 *** Uresu [~Wes@5aceb719.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [] 12:45:17 <Belugas> hahahaha... GOOD alt-text :F 12:45:32 <Belugas> well.. then.. salut mec, bienvenue ici :) 12:45:37 <Belugas> et pas de rancune? 12:45:55 <darkomen> Lol, le jour ou jserai rancunier moi ^^ 12:46:18 <darkomen> juste des divergeances d'opinions ;) 12:46:51 <TomyLobo> mon aéroglisseur est plein d'anguilles! 12:47:10 <darkomen> OH, well, it's fine ! 12:47:47 <Belugas> good, darkomen. I'm always a bit worried when conversations are getting that... let say... intense :) 12:47:52 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: i think that's the wrong language ;) 12:48:06 <TomyLobo> no, it's french :) 12:48:17 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that's what i said :p 12:48:28 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 12:48:38 <TomyLobo> they were talking french too 12:48:38 <darkomen> it's, but i don't know what do you try to say ^^ 12:48:42 <TomyLobo> internet french though ugh 12:48:48 <__ln__> le bicmac 12:49:15 <Eddi|zuHause> in germany, the bigmac is called bigmÀc 12:49:27 <darkomen> Big Mac, a Hamburger from Mc Donnald's ;) 12:49:29 <TomyLobo> it is? 12:49:41 <TomyLobo> odd, i live in germany and that's new to me 12:50:59 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: might be a historic thing 12:52:19 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 12:54:26 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article912840/McDonalds_schafft_Big_Maec_und_Fishmaec_ab.html 12:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> 01.06.07 12:58:41 <darkomen> OTTD 0.7 RC2 crash on my computer >< 12:58:56 <Eddi|zuHause> don't use that then. 12:59:16 <darkomen> if i use 0.7, can i use the same patch without problems? 12:59:44 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 12:59:45 <Alberth> darkomen: the patch is in source code format, you cannot combine it with a binary program 13:00:02 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause are you calling me historic? 13:00:18 <TomyLobo> ah 13:00:19 <TomyLobo> nm :) 13:00:33 <darkomen> the patch is in .diff format 13:00:33 <Alberth> darkomen: you have to get the revision from the version control system, apply the patch, and build a binary yourself. 13:00:56 <Alberth> darkomen: yes, changes in lines of code. Open it with a text editor 13:01:11 <darkomen> Oh... 13:01:50 <darkomen> a lot of work isn't it ? :D 13:02:28 <Alberth> trivial if you know how :D 13:02:44 <darkomen> then, a lot of Work for me :D 13:02:55 <Alberth> and have a compiler installed at your system :p 13:03:06 <darkomen> damn... 13:05:55 <Alberth> there are pages at the wiki about compiling yourself 13:06:15 <Alberth> also, at the development forum, there is a sticky thread about it 13:06:21 <darkomen> ok, i will try to translate them into french, thank you :) 13:29:02 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.233.109] has joined #openttd 13:42:40 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-3-150.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:45:01 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-10-152.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 13:45:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:02:43 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 14:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... weird... i have some kind of "bad sector" on my disk 14:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause> Jul 28 15:58:34 johannes-i kernel: ata1.00: cmd c8/00:08:8c:d4:42/00:00:00:00:00/ed tag 0 dma 4096 in 14:05:02 <Eddi|zuHause> Jul 28 15:58:34 johannes-i kernel: res 51/40:08:90:d4:42/00:00:00:00:00/ed Emask 0x9 (media error) 14:05:24 <Eddi|zuHause> followed by repeating that, resulting in a drive reset... awfully slow that... 14:05:32 <Eddi|zuHause> dd_rescue said it couldn't read 4k 14:05:56 <Eddi|zuHause> Jul 28 15:58:35 johannes-i kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 222483600 14:06:00 <peter1138> a dying drive? never seen that before... 14:08:39 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has joined #openttd 14:10:46 <Eddi|zuHause> smart not saying anything special... 14:10:52 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause: `smartctl -a /dev/sda` 14:10:55 <SpComb> hm 14:13:00 *** darkomen [4dc106d9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:13:36 *** Amis_ [~Amis@sexard2-115.tolna.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.179.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:16:09 *** darkomen [4dc106d9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:16:49 <TomyLobo> <Eddi|zuHause> you can disable turning around 14:16:57 <TomyLobo> i found "pf.wait_for_pbs_path" 14:17:07 <TomyLobo> is there a separate setting for regular block signals? 14:17:45 <TomyLobo> cause one of my trains just turned around at one of those, congesting half of my network because it didnt turn back either 14:18:06 *** murr4y [~murray@169.84-49-70.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 14:19:08 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 14:19:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r20234 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Fix [FS#3988]: refit costs from refit orders are subtracted from the vehicle yearly income 14:19:23 <Eddi|zuHause> wait_oneway_signal and wait_twoway_signal or so 14:19:53 <Eddi|zuHause> list_settings pf.wait 14:19:55 <TomyLobo> and setting that to 255 keeps them from turning around? 14:20:01 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 14:21:29 <TomyLobo> they still turn around :/ 14:21:42 <TomyLobo> might be thatthis train started waiting before i set that option though 14:22:09 *** darkomen [4dc106d9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:22:34 <Rubidium> or because you modified openttd.cfg and are assuming it applies to already started savegames as well 14:22:45 <TomyLobo> no 14:22:47 <TomyLobo> console 14:22:59 <TomyLobo> i typoed btw 14:25:19 *** pavel1269 [~pavel1269@r11kx196.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: ^^] 14:26:30 <TomyLobo> ok a hint for everyone: NEVER turn off waiting at pbs signals without turning off waiting at oneway signals as well 14:27:31 *** darkomen [4dc106d9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:28:14 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-10-152.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:30:26 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-188.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:30:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:35:39 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:55:10 <darkomen> Hi 14:55:30 <darkomen> i try to apply a patch with SVN, can someone help me? 14:56:08 <darkomen> i don't find help about patching on the Wiki 14:56:19 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.206] has joined #openttd 14:57:37 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3D9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:39 *** tneo_ is now known as tneo 15:03:41 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-228-188.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:56 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-153-207.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 15:05:59 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:07:49 <Alberth> darkomen: did you try to compile without patching first? 15:08:41 <Alberth> darkomen: ie do a check of your setup, as trunk is known to compile correctly 15:09:29 <Belugas> he's not even there yet, he tries to apply a patch 15:09:36 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 15:09:53 <Alberth> that's why I ask :) 15:09:53 <Belugas> but granted, he might start to just compile regular trunk 15:09:54 *** perk111 [~perk11@178.34.44.150] has joined #openttd 15:10:26 <darkomen> no Alberth, i try to patch before compiling 15:10:31 <darkomen> but it's fine 15:11:00 <Alberth> ah, going for the big leap :) 15:11:55 <Rubidium> see the stickies in the development forum 15:12:12 <darkomen> I just start compiling, the game is now patched 15:14:07 *** perk11 [~perk11@94.233.233.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:47 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_development#How_to_apply_a_patch.3F 15:14:54 <Alberth> although it is a bit too late :) 15:15:44 <darkomen> lol 15:18:09 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-26-106.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:23 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-26-106.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:12 <darkomen> oh No! i have conversion problems 15:23:08 <Belugas> english<->french ? 15:23:37 <darkomen> No, Vc++ 2008=>Vc++ 2010 15:24:01 * Belugas hides in his corner and watch delphi compiling 15:25:01 <darkomen> i had to convert the project into VC++ 2010, but when i did that, i had some conversion errors 15:26:44 <Rubidium> yeah, Microsoft's tools aren't perfect (yet) 15:28:08 <Rubidium> for better luck use a newer trunk and the MSVC2010 project files :) 15:28:19 <darkomen> so i have to download VC++ 08 to compile my project? 15:28:22 <Rubidium> ofcourse that won't work for older trunk 15:29:08 <darkomen> if i download an old release, it's to patch it with a capable patch ^^ 15:29:41 <darkomen> so i can't download a newer trunk 15:30:16 <TomyLobo> my 3rd largest town is not even a city 15:30:34 <Rubidium> then you have to get MSVC 2008, though I'm not sure whether it likes to install when 2010 is installed 15:31:03 <darkomen> oh no :'( 15:31:07 <TomyLobo> #1 2 and 4 are cities 15:31:39 <darkomen> In a desert environment? 15:31:45 <TomyLobo> temperate 15:31:53 <darkomen> strange 15:32:54 <darkomen> then let's go to uninstall VC 2010 15:34:46 <TomyLobo> darkomen http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7093/phillipsco21150529.png 15:38:27 <darkomen> ok 15:38:34 * Rubidium wonders whether he should talk about his experience uninstalling VC2010 15:38:51 <Rubidium> (although that was a release candidate) 15:39:20 <darkomen> strange... VC08 is installed on my computer 15:39:27 <TomyLobo> YOU cannot uninstall vc, do not even try 15:41:57 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f662a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:18 <TomyLobo> one of my stations gets fed with about 16000 crates goods per month 15:45:08 <darkomen> =) 15:46:50 <TomyLobo> and i have a small problem with that station: it's a roro, but some trains insist on leaving through the entrance. on the entrance i have path signals, facing the platforms. two reasons for that: 1. i have no room for depots at the exit, so they have to use the entrance depots, 2. it's a path-based entrance and blocking their way with a signal would make them wait at the signals instead of at the splitter signals 15:47:34 <TomyLobo> for lack of space (again) i can't make a presignal entrance 15:48:30 <TomyLobo> gluing a few screenshots right now 15:54:26 <TomyLobo> http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9613/openttdcloppenburgtrans.png 15:54:50 <TomyLobo> 2550x1655 1.2 MB 15:55:16 <TomyLobo> it's the one on the left, with the fancy crates 15:55:32 <darkomen> i dont like old signals 15:55:41 <TomyLobo> heh 15:55:48 <TomyLobo> well i use them to tell them from other signals 15:56:36 <darkomen> ok^^ 15:57:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i like old signals, but on maglev they seem kinda anachronistic... 15:59:17 <Eddi|zuHause> and why not simply forbid them from using the entrance depot after they entered? 15:59:25 <darkomen> all the trains arrives from north est , true? 15:59:35 <TomyLobo> from southwest 15:59:38 <Eddi|zuHause> and i see there plenty of space 15:59:45 <TomyLobo> these are double-headed trains :D 16:00:00 <TomyLobo> yes in that place sure 16:00:07 <TomyLobo> but i'd need 6 depots there 16:00:15 <darkomen> From north est to south west? 16:00:17 <TomyLobo> which wont fit 16:00:27 <TomyLobo> no 16:00:34 <TomyLobo> SW->NE 16:00:44 <TomyLobo> bottem right->top left 16:01:10 <darkomen> strange 16:01:14 <darkomen> very strange 16:01:15 <Eddi|zuHause> that's SE->NW 16:01:24 <TomyLobo> oh right :D 16:01:29 <darkomen> your signals are inversed? 16:01:44 <TomyLobo> i'm talking about the station on sea floor level :) 16:01:53 <TomyLobo> the fancy crate station 16:01:58 <darkomen> ok 16:02:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm gone 16:02:45 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause if i add depots to the exit, i still cant make the entrance one-way 16:04:32 <Eddi|zuHause> Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error 16:04:34 <Eddi|zuHause> # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 692 222483600 16:04:46 <Eddi|zuHause> but smart still insists that the drive is fine 16:05:02 <TomyLobo> yure 16:05:04 <TomyLobo> sure 16:05:09 <darkomen> making the depot near a station is bad 16:05:12 <TomyLobo> smart compensates these things 16:05:39 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: but apparently it failed to "compensate" during me copying the file 16:05:50 <TomyLobo> oh 16:06:12 <TomyLobo> i think you can make smartctl trigger a thorough test somehow 16:06:23 <TomyLobo> if you didnt already 16:06:54 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, i did. that's what the above result s 16:07:00 <Eddi|zuHause> *is 16:07:06 <TomyLobo> hmm 16:07:26 <Eddi|zuHause> and copying the file still fails 16:07:47 <TomyLobo> maybe there is a logical error instead of a physical one? 16:13:42 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF85DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:15:14 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:22 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-153-207.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:17:27 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-192-105.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 16:17:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:23:07 *** murr4y [~murray@169.84-49-70.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:32 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-26-106.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:50 *** Wizzleby [~wizzleby@pool-108-2-26-106.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:54 *** Amis 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17:26:52 <SmatZ> omg omg omg 17:26:54 <SmatZ> :-x 17:27:17 <Prof_Frink> Silly boy. 17:27:38 <__ln__> not rpm-based distro? 17:27:45 <SmatZ> nope, gentoo 17:27:56 <SmatZ> reinstalling everything is for several days... 17:28:03 <SmatZ> I stopped it after a while... 17:28:09 *** Cyborgmatt [~Cyborgmat@94-193-80-49.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:39 <__ln__> with rpm it is possible to set file owners based on rpm metadata, without reinstalling, but dunno about gentoo. 17:29:04 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has joined #openttd 17:29:26 *** nicfer [ejabberd@galleta.ziritione.org] has left #openttd [] 17:29:49 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 17:32:11 *** KarlMay [Moses@i5E861EDD.versanet.de] has quit [] 17:32:30 <peter1138> well, at least you can do things smatz :D 17:33:01 <SmatZ> hehe :) 17:36:47 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3D9B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:26 *** Lakie 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17:48:26 <SmatZ> planetmaker: well I did that as root :) 17:48:52 <planetmaker> :S 17:49:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@94-224-31-113.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:51:19 <Rubidium> SmatZ: request an "undo knob" for chown! 17:51:45 <frosch123> :) 17:52:40 <SmatZ> hehe :) 17:55:41 <planetmaker> lol 18:00:48 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:02:00 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 18:05:33 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:06:41 <fjb> A friend of mine insisted on always working as user root till the day he did an "rm -R *" not knowing that he was in "/". 18:07:46 <peter1138> :D 18:12:01 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12:03 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 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[~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:d908:36fc:d5bc:908f] has joined #openttd 19:07:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20236 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/belarusian.txt: -Add: stub for Belarusian translation 19:18:00 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 19:27:38 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:11 <Ammler> that sounds for me like "Nicer" Russian 19:30:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:31:46 <peter1138> Irssi uptime: 331d 0h 2m 0s 19:31:51 <peter1138> maybe i should reboot one of these days 19:32:46 <Rubidium> just use ksplice! 19:33:01 <peter1138> heh 19:34:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-72-107.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:36:28 <peter1138> BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 304s! [swapper:0] 19:36:38 <peter1138> that sort of thing seems like it might be bad 19:37:21 <Rubidium> well, I rather have such lockups than a hard lockup 19:39:21 <peter1138> yers 19:48:01 * SpComb spins 19:55:11 *** oniik [~Alexander@171.85-200-14.bkkb.no] has left #openttd [Leaving.] 19:55:38 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:56:19 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 19:56:57 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:57 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 19:58:22 <fjb> Swapper lockup? Sounds like a hard drive problem. 20:04:37 *** Amis_ [~Amis@5400C2DA.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 20:06:41 <peter1138> nothing reported on the hard drive side though 20:08:01 *** Amis [~Amis@5400C2DA.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:07 <peter1138> no smart errors logged 20:08:13 <peter1138> heh, start stop count: 11 20:08:48 <peter1138> also it's a RAID1, although software, so a disk problem could still lock things up 20:10:12 <fjb> Could be the controller or the mainboard. 20:10:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 20:10:40 <peter1138> i'd still expect to see controller errors or timeouts in that case 20:11:02 *** Amis_ [~Amis@5400C2DA.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 20:11:35 <peter1138> it's not always swapper either 20:11:46 <peter1138> any random process 20:13:19 *** snc [rdlBNC@178.32.93.49] has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:14:19 <fjb> I once had a faulty mainboard with similar effects. Sometimes random processes crashed, sometimes files got corrupted etc. 20:17:40 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 20:17:49 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17:49 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 20:19:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f662a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:57 <peter1138> :S 20:26:31 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.111.164] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:35 <TomyLobo> <Ammler> that sounds for me like "Nicer" Russian 20:27:13 <TomyLobo> the bela part stands for white, in german it's called "white russian" 20:28:35 <planetmaker> TomyLobo: or it comes from blanche (fr), blanco (it?) = white 20:28:39 <__ln__> http://www.belarusian.com/ 20:28:59 <TomyLobo> it's slavic, not romance 20:29:24 <planetmaker> so? 20:29:42 <TomyLobo> that means it might be a cognate, or chance 20:29:42 <planetmaker> who do you think invented the cyrillic alphabet? A greek monch 20:30:06 <TomyLobo> that's a myth iirc 20:30:27 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@92.21.146.45] has joined #openttd 20:30:40 <TomyLobo> in truth, it was TWO greek monks :D 20:31:25 <planetmaker> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymologische_Liste_der_L%C3%A4ndernamen <-- ethymology of belarus (DE) 20:31:26 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc34e0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:53 <TomyLobo> МеÑ! 20:32:50 <planetmaker> so... it also there has the meaning of 'white' 20:32:53 <planetmaker> and not 'nice' 20:33:21 <TomyLobo> exactly what i said 20:34:33 <planetmaker> yes :-P 20:38:07 <TomyLobo> btw, if you want a keyboard driver that maps cyrillic onto a german(or us) keyboard, i have one :) 20:39:10 <TomyLobo> Ñ1234567890Ñе ÑÑÑÑÑзÑÐžÐŸÐ¿Ñ Ð°ÑÐŽÑгÑжклÑÑ Ð¹Ñ ÑвбМЌ 20:39:34 <TomyLobo> i should probably swap е and Ñ... 20:39:59 <glx> I just switch keyboard config using lang toolbar :) 20:40:13 <TomyLobo> but then you have to learn 2 full layouts 20:40:29 <glx> virtual keyboard 20:40:41 <TomyLobo> then you have to clickyclicky :) 20:41:05 <glx> no you can use it as model and type on the real keyboard 20:41:28 <TomyLobo> but then you still have to look all the time 20:42:16 <TomyLobo> with my layout i can just type as used to 20:43:03 <TomyLobo> ÑПП Ð±Ð°Ñ Ð±Ð°Ð· 20:43:19 <SmatZ> :) 20:43:29 <planetmaker> :-P 20:44:28 <SmatZ> пÑÐžÐ²ÐµÑ TomyLobo 20:45:16 <SmatZ> [22:39:17] <TomyLobo> Ñ1234567890Ñе ÑÑÑÑÑзÑÐžÐŸÐ¿Ñ Ð°ÑÐŽÑгÑжклÑÑ Ð¹Ñ ÑвбМЌ <== nice, I should install that to KDE 20:45:23 <TomyLobo> ÐŽÐŸÑ Ð²ÐžÐŽÐ°ÐœÐµ 20:45:28 <SmatZ> searching for keys is mostly try-and-fail :-p 20:45:40 <TomyLobo> sorry, windows 20:46:02 <glx> ПЎОМ Ўва ÑÑО 20:46:07 <SmatZ> :) 20:46:51 <TomyLobo> oding two three? 20:46:56 <TomyLobo> -g 20:47:10 <TomyLobo> ßór! 20:47:23 <SmatZ> one two three 20:47:31 <TomyLobo> russian for one is odin? 20:47:38 <SmatZ> yes 20:47:39 <__ln__> da 20:47:48 <TomyLobo> that's Ўа 20:47:51 <SmatZ> :p 20:47:55 <glx> ÑеÑОÑе 20:48:14 <TomyLobo> tchyetirye dont know that word ^^ 20:48:20 <SmatZ> four :-p 20:48:21 <__ln__> not Ñ? 20:48:30 <TomyLobo> i thought ÑÐ°Ñ is one 20:48:35 <glx> __ln__: possible, my memory is not good 20:48:49 <__ln__> glx: i'm not sure though 20:48:53 <TomyLobo> Î¶ÎµÏ Ï 20:49:01 <SmatZ> well, it's "ÃŒ", not "i" 20:49:02 <TomyLobo> i also have greek >( 20:49:04 <TomyLobo> :) 20:49:15 <SmatZ> so ÑеÑÑÑе 20:49:21 <perk111> lol, russian on the channel 20:49:27 <SmatZ> :) 20:49:33 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA51A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:34 <SmatZ> hehe :) 20:49:41 <TomyLobo> SmatZ that'd be ukrainian 20:49:41 <__ln__> TomyLobo: it's ÑÐ°Ñ when enumerating numbers [1,N] 20:49:48 <glx> __ln__ is right (just checked in the dictionnary) 20:49:50 <TomyLobo> odd 20:50:11 <perk111> à êà ê ñÀåëà òÌ, ÷òîáû ñðà çó îòîáðà Êà ëîñÌ, à òî ìÃÃ¥ ïåðåêîÀÚðîâà òÌ ïðÚõîÀÚòñÿ? ( 20:50:17 <TomyLobo> Moskau! ÑÐ°Ñ ÐŽÐ²Ð° ÑÑО! 20:50:18 *** perk111 is now known as perk11 20:50:23 <glx> total fail I'd say perk11 20:50:25 <__ln__> perk11: UTF-8 only 20:50:29 <SmatZ> пÑÑÑ 20:50:43 <perk11> how to change codepage? 20:50:51 <planetmaker> check your IRC client manual 20:51:03 <SmatZ> :) 20:51:06 <Rubidium> codepage is such a 20th century thing 20:51:26 <glx> ã°ã 20:51:37 <planetmaker> Ù ÙÙس 20:51:39 <perk11> it seems I see UTF-8 20:51:40 <Rubidium> hiragana 20:51:41 <perk11> now 20:51:43 <perk11> òåñò 20:51:47 <TomyLobo> i also tried making a japanese one 20:51:49 <SmatZ> perk11: but you don't type it 20:51:50 <Rubidium> nope, not it 20:51:52 <TomyLobo> based on dead kezs 20:51:55 <TomyLobo> keys* 20:52:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.44.150] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 20:52:07 <glx> I just type romaji :) 20:52:07 <planetmaker> ã ã·ì¹Ž 20:52:16 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.44.150] has joined #openttd 20:52:18 <TomyLobo> for some reason it works in the keyboard layout creator, but not in windows 20:52:23 <planetmaker> éå»å 20:52:26 <SmatZ> [22:50:25] <TomyLobo> Moskau! ÑÐ°Ñ ÐŽÐ²Ð° ÑÑО! <== what song is that? 20:52:35 <TomyLobo> moskau by rammstein 20:52:35 <perk11> SmatZ: ÑÑП ÑаЌЌÑÑайМ 20:52:36 <planetmaker> if I only knew what I typed there :-P 20:52:40 <SmatZ> TomyLobo: thanks :) 20:52:45 <perk11> and now? 20:52:47 <glx> perk11: worked 20:52:50 <perk11> thx 20:53:04 <TomyLobo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9F_wCfZMxw 20:53:34 <Rubidium> ïœ ïœïœïœïœïŒ ïœïœïœ ïœïœ ïœïœïœ ïœïœ ïœïœïŒïŒïŒ 20:53:35 <perk11> planetmaker: you typed "Burin" 20:53:44 <perk11> Rubidium: what's that? 20:53:56 <TomyLobo> soyo3 // multfilm 20:54:01 <TomyLobo> :D 20:54:20 <planetmaker> hehe. That made you look 10 years younger, Rubidium :-P 20:54:29 <SmatZ> perk11: ÑпаÑОбП 20:54:33 <SmatZ> :D 20:54:37 <perk11> ç§ã¯openttdã®æ 20:54:54 <TomyLobo> ПпÑÐœÑÑÐŽ! 20:54:57 <Rubidium> perk11: you should've used katakana as well! 20:54:58 <TomyLobo> пÑÑÑÑÑÑПйка! 20:55:11 <TomyLobo> oops 20:55:15 <SmatZ> :D 20:55:19 <perk11> гг 20:55:25 <TomyLobo> пеÑеÑÑÑПйка!* 20:55:34 <planetmaker> Ãg elska OpenTTD 20:55:51 <TomyLobo> talarðu islensku? 20:55:57 <perk11> Icelandic? 20:55:59 <perk11> O_o 20:56:15 <TomyLobo> he said "i play openttd" i think 20:56:32 <planetmaker> TomyLobo: unfortunately not quite 20:56:34 <Rubidium> perk11: according to Unicode they're full width forms 20:56:40 <perk11> Rubidium: oh 20:56:48 <TomyLobo> oh 20:56:49 <perk11> TomyLobo: that was "I love" 20:56:51 <TomyLobo> i love openttd :D 20:56:54 <TomyLobo> right 20:56:55 <perk11> http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|%C3%89g%20elska%20OpenTTD 20:57:02 <TomyLobo> i knew i hear the word before 20:57:03 <planetmaker> :-) guess how I got it :-P 20:57:20 <perk11> google? 20:57:33 <planetmaker> that link you gave, just reverse 20:57:36 <TomyLobo> http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/IcelOnline/IcelOnline.TEId-idx?type=entry&eid=ELSKA-2&q1=elska 20:57:45 <TomyLobo> i use that one 20:57:59 <TomyLobo> real men use dictionaries, not google translator :) 20:58:05 <perk11> you need to know grammar for that 20:58:16 <TomyLobo> for google translator too :D 20:58:19 <TomyLobo> i tried it 20:58:21 <planetmaker> perk11: google doesn't know grammar either 20:58:25 <TomyLobo> it cant translate icelandic for shit 20:58:28 <perk11> sometimes it does 20:58:33 <Rubidium> or 9 from coconut 20:58:53 <perk11> english<=>french or russian<=>ukrainian works almost perfect for me 20:59:09 <TomyLobo> http://translate.google.de/#is|en|skitur 20:59:15 <TomyLobo> ok it CAN translate icelandic for shit 20:59:56 * TomyLobo removes the silly english layout. it stole my accents again 21:01:22 <perk11> btw how do you type them? 21:01:34 <TomyLobo> ÂŽ+i = à 21:01:48 <TomyLobo> ÂŽ+t = ß :D 21:02:05 * Rubidium smells a NFO coder 21:02:06 <perk11> ²i 21:02:16 <TomyLobo> Rubidium not at all 21:02:17 <perk11> ²o 21:02:29 <Rubidium> then why would you use a thorn? 21:02:38 <TomyLobo> icelandic has them 21:02:42 <perk11> does not vvork 21:02:55 <__ln__> ya by hotel osmotret vystavku dostizhyennyi narodnogo hozyayistva 21:03:04 <TomyLobo> ßú ert fiskur 21:03:10 <perk11> __ln__: :D 21:03:55 <perk11> ùÚòì 21:04:05 <__ln__> i recently bought this phrase book meant for tourists going to moscow olympics 21:04:09 <perk11> its ctrl+`, i for English 21:04:25 <perk11> __ln__: where are you from? 21:04:51 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@frbg-d9be34e8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:05:21 <TomyLobo> ok let's see, i have: áéÃóúÜ à Úìòù âêîÎû ÀöÌà åÞ ÊŠßðç 21:05:30 <__ln__> Ñ ÐžÐ· ÑОМлаМЎОО 21:05:41 <perk11> __ln__: :) 21:05:42 <TomyLobo> finnish? 21:05:50 <perk11> ЀОМлÑÐœÐŽÐžÑ 21:06:07 <TomyLobo> yeah, didnt look correct :D 21:06:14 <perk11> TomyLobo: it's only Úòìù 21:06:24 <perk11> and à 21:06:33 <TomyLobo> icelandic? no, áéÃóú 21:06:46 <TomyLobo> and Ãœ 21:06:48 <perk11> Ãnglish 21:07:09 <SmatZ> perk11: Ð»Ñ in ЀОМлÑÐœÐŽÐžÑ looks strange :x 21:07:18 <TomyLobo> and öÊ 21:07:40 <perk11> :) 21:08:00 <Belugas> night all, you skilled linguists 21:08:08 <SmatZ> good night, Mr. Belugas 21:08:10 <perk11> night :) 21:08:28 <TomyLobo> and of course ß 21:08:53 <perk11> why have so much characters? 21:09:13 <TomyLobo> ð is for icelandic and faroese, the rest of the accented chars as well as Åç are for french, ÀöÌà for german, finnish, icelandic, swedish, Ã¥ for norwegian/swedish/danish, Þ for danish and norwegian 21:09:30 <perk11> oh 21:10:11 <__ln__> we certainly don't have Ìà in finnish 21:10:14 <perk11> I thought Å is just oe 21:10:28 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 21:10:31 <TomyLobo> i can basically type all fennoscandinavic languages, insular nordic languages and french :) 21:10:58 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:d908:36fc:d5bc:908f] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:58 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 21:11:01 <perk11> абвгЎеÑжзОйклЌМПпÑÑÑÑÑÑ ÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑÑ 21:11:07 <Rubidium> I can type that as well: "french" <- see! :) 21:11:19 <TomyLobo> français! 21:11:23 <perk11> lol 21:11:30 <TomyLobo> soupe! 21:11:47 <darkomen> présidentielles 21:11:50 <darkomen> fil à linge 21:11:55 <perk11> Je ne parle pas Français 21:12:35 <TomyLobo> stjórnskipunarfrÊði 21:12:45 <darkomen> i tried to do a compilation of OTTD r15952 patched 21:12:45 <perk11> darkomen: washing line? 21:13:09 <darkomen> not really 21:13:11 <perk11> darkomen: why so old? 21:13:14 <Rubidium> hmm... did I heard someone claiming to be Icelandic? Then why is the Icelandic translation not completed yet? 21:13:32 <__ln__> *hear 21:13:35 <darkomen> it's a string to dry your clothes after washing ^^ 21:13:56 <darkomen> i tried to compile this 21:14:09 <TomyLobo> Rubidium hah, no, i just took a beginner's course :D 21:14:09 <perk11> Oh, Belarusian was added 21:14:11 <darkomen> but i've got a problem with a file 21:14:46 <__ln__> spokoinyi nochi vsyo 21:14:50 <perk11> darkomen: why do you take so old revision? 21:14:55 <perk11> __ln__: пПка 21:14:57 <TomyLobo> i have major problems translating FROM icelandic, other than everyday stuff 21:15:07 <TomyLobo> translating TO it, nah 21:15:14 <darkomen> perk11 because the patch is capable with this version 21:15:23 <perk11> what patch? 21:15:40 <darkomen> timelapse patch 21:15:55 <perk11> don't know this one :( 21:15:56 <TomyLobo> what does that do? 21:16:04 <TomyLobo> more faster? 21:16:13 <darkomen> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=40114 21:16:30 <darkomen> he do automatic giant screenshots 21:16:44 <darkomen> to make timelapse videos 21:16:59 <glx> try with 2048*2048 ;) 21:17:13 <darkomen> salut glx 21:17:37 <perk11> I use another patch, that's how it looks http://perk11.info/minimap/ 21:18:05 <TomyLobo> looks like circuitry 21:18:37 <perk11> 1px=1 map tile 21:18:37 <darkomen> ok 21:18:43 <TomyLobo> what the hell did the purple player on the lower right do? 21:19:02 <perk11> TomyLobo: on what screenshot? 21:19:05 <TomyLobo> first 21:19:47 <perk11> TomyLobo: It was a game with Industry sharing 21:19:57 <TomyLobo> dont know what that is ^^ 21:20:26 <darkomen> then, compilation fail because the principal file of the patch can't be compiled correctly 21:20:41 <perk11> darkomen: post the error 21:20:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C35C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:51 <darkomen> the errors ... 21:20:57 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@188.113.85.20] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:21:00 <darkomen> 17 errors 21:21:12 <darkomen> c:\ottdsrc\src\timelapse.cpp(150) : error C2374: '_command_count_giant' : redéfinition ; initialisation multiple 21:21:15 <perk11> the first one 21:21:24 <perk11> TomyLobo: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=42254 21:21:44 <TomyLobo> ugh localised compiler errors 21:21:50 <TomyLobo> microsoft sucks more than i thought 21:21:51 <perk11> darkomen: It looks like incorrect patch *dntknw* 21:22:05 <TomyLobo> at least they have numbers so you can google the english one to ask about it online :D 21:22:35 <darkomen> so i suppose that i've to compile with a linux compiler? 21:22:43 <perk11> darkomen: try 21:23:40 <perk11> TomyLobo: that link is on topic about Infrastructure sharing (which i mistakely called Industry sharing) 21:24:15 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@92.21.146.45] has quit [Quit: Don't follow me] 21:26:01 <TomyLobo> perk11 ah, sounds good :) 21:26:15 <TomyLobo> does that also count for stations? 21:26:19 <perk11> yes 21:26:27 <TomyLobo> trains not i guess? 21:26:43 <perk11> yeah, doesn't count for trains 21:26:53 <perk11> or it was just one company 21:27:46 <TomyLobo> i was actually referring to the tracks on water btw 21:28:27 <perk11> that's not water, that's blue player's tracks 21:29:49 <perk11> and gray tracks on water - they just transfer some oil 21:31:16 <TomyLobo> i dunno, that looks like water, not like tracks 21:31:41 <TomyLobo> someone built a pretty elaborate water net too :D 21:31:52 <perk11> :D 21:32:05 <perk11> http://perk11.info/minimap/2010-07-07_23-02.png 21:32:09 <perk11> that's the final one 21:32:23 <TomyLobo> ball of white yarn 21:34:07 <Noldo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W594ASphiz0 21:34:24 <perk11> darkomen: I'll try to compile it on mingw 21:34:46 *** Uresu [~Wes@5aceb719.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:34:51 <darkomen> thank you perk11 21:35:55 *** Uresu [~Wes@5aceb719.bb.sky.com] has left #openttd [] 21:37:37 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ABFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:19 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5485ABFE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:47:28 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has joined #openttd 21:47:28 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-235-164-123-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:43 <perk11> darkomen: it has compiled 21:50:24 <darkomen> Nice ! 21:50:36 <perk11> darkomen: Should I upload it? 21:50:58 <darkomen> if you can, thank you =) 21:54:58 <perk11> http://perk11.info/tmp/bundle.zip 21:55:49 <darkomen> Thanks a lot :) 21:57:03 <darkomen> you bundled it, so i can distribute it to other people? 21:57:34 <perk11> yes 21:57:44 <planetmaker> that's the only save way to not violate the GPL ;-) 21:57:52 <darkomen> ok, thanks 21:58:34 <perk11> All bugs listed below are marked as known. Please do not submit any bugs 21:58:34 <perk11> that are the same as these. If you do, do not act surprised, because 21:58:34 <perk11> we WILL flame you!! 21:58:34 <perk11> lol 21:59:47 <darkomen> lol, ok ^^ 22:01:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C35C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:08 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8f70d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 22:01:08 * Rubidium thinks darkomen has applied the patch multiple times 22:01:16 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF85DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:43 <darkomen> may be it's an old and bugged version of OTTD, but this patched version can do timelapse videos, so it's a treasure 22:02:43 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:03:08 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:03:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:04:08 * darkomen think he tried to compile a patched version since yesterday, so he has applied the patch many times =) 22:06:34 <Rubidium> well, that caused your "defined multiple times" error 22:06:54 <perk11> darkomen: it's worth to have only on small maps 22:07:33 <darkomen> ok 22:08:40 <darkomen> hum... I cant open the game 22:09:04 <darkomen> "cannot open file Sample.cat" 22:09:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:09:27 <perk11> add sample.cat :) 22:09:28 <planetmaker> yup. OOOOLD game 22:09:33 <perk11> to data 22:10:07 <planetmaker> create an empty sample.cat and it might work 22:10:12 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:10:41 <perk11> planetmaker: I've just realised that you're that ostrich from tt-forums 22:10:52 <planetmaker> ? 22:10:58 <planetmaker> oh, my avatar 22:11:10 <perk11> :) 22:11:14 <planetmaker> but ... so, yes? 22:11:51 <perk11> nothing, just constituted a link in my mind 22:11:52 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:12:46 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 22:13:43 <darkomen> ok, it works 22:14:06 <darkomen> i use files from OTTD 1.0.2 22:14:57 <planetmaker> perk11: I'd have assumed that the similarity in the nicknames is kinda striking ;-) 22:15:49 <perk11> :) 22:17:07 * planetmaker now wonders what people actually associate with that ostrich... ;-) 22:17:28 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dreamxtre@92.1.129.132] has joined #openttd 22:17:30 <planetmaker> (as it's a random pick from my last year's photos) 22:19:23 <perk11> :D 22:19:43 <perk11> I've associated it with a talking ostrich :-" 22:19:49 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3DD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 22:21:29 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100403215037]] 22:21:58 <perk11> bye all 22:22:01 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.44.150] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:23:44 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: michi_cc * r20237 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r20049): Check for disallowed level crossings also when converting rail. 22:29:57 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:20 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 22:30:26 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:30:46 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:35:09 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:09 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:36:07 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 22:42:38 <Terkhen> good night 22:43:38 <Rubidium> night Terkhen 22:49:11 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 22:52:48 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@202-65-54-14.xdsl.net.oyster.net.ck] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:24 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 22:55:41 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-36-209.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 22:57:48 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:57:48 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 22:58:24 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:03 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-36-209.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:00:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:00:14 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 23:00:17 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:01:51 *** tdev [~udev@p508EA51A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: free open source vehicle simulator: http://rigsofrods.com] 23:03:52 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has joined #openttd 23:04:41 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 23:05:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 23:17:04 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@188.109.241.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:17:23 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:17:24 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:28 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:18:29 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:34 *** raisin [4747df09@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 23:21:24 <raisin> im trying to deal with multiple trains and signaling like is it possible to make it where i have one train it leaves a station loops around outside the station and goes back through on the other side 23:21:28 *** Coco-Banana-Man [~Stephan.D@p5B2D962D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Regel Nr. 1: Jeder hört auf mein Kommando! - Regel Nr. 2: Jeder bleibt auf dem Weg! - Regel Nr. 3: ... ... Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 23:21:31 <raisin> or somethin 23:21:34 <raisin> dunno if this makes sense 23:22:05 <raisin> like can 1 train go through 2 platforms 23:23:44 <raisin> or is it better to do it another way 23:24:01 <Rubidium> that just requires a bit of track, though... I think you want the train to "see" both platforms for loading/unloading and as such not get the huge "too long" loading penalty and that won't work 23:24:02 <raisin> my world is small and only has 2 cities 23:24:27 <raisin> so yeah maybe ill do this a dif way 23:34:17 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.8.54] has joined #openttd 23:40:01 *** [alt]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 23:40:01 *** [com]buster [~Combuster@82-171-220-59.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:40:05 *** [alt]buster is now known as [com]buster 23:40:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-72-107.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:46:49 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@93.21.12.206] has joined #openttd 23:47:21 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@93.21.12.206] has quit [] 23:52:08 <Eddi|zuHause> we need bendy stations! :p 23:54:01 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.12.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:02 <raisin> basically i have 2 lines 2 stations and atm 2 trains 23:57:27 <raisin> but like i want 1 to use the other line if first busy or something 23:58:16 <Rubidium> have you checked the wiki? 23:58:30 <raisin> yeah im lookin 23:58:31 <raisin> heh 23:58:37 <raisin> trying to figure out these dang signals