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00:08:49 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 00:11:27 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c352.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:31 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22:02 <izua> is there a cap on the output of coal mines? 00:22:17 <izua> or do they grow indefinitely 00:24:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i think there's a limit 00:24:35 <Eddi|zuHause> something around 2000 or so... 00:24:54 <Markk> 2048? 00:24:58 <Markk> I think. 00:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause> no, something different 00:25:35 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 8.5*255 00:25:35 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2167.5 00:25:43 <Markk> There we go. 00:25:47 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 9*255 00:25:48 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2295 00:25:56 <Eddi|zuHause> something around these two... 00:26:12 <Markk> I recognise 2295 00:26:15 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.190] has quit [Quit: ãããã¿ãªãã] 00:26:25 <Rubidium> one month 2295, the next 2040 00:26:43 <Markk> Mm 00:26:47 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why i said 8.5 ;) 00:26:47 <Rubidium> primarily because it's hard to divide a month in equal time slices 00:27:05 <Rubidium> @calc 365.25*74/256 00:27:05 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 105.580078125 00:27:10 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 30*74/256 00:27:10 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 8.671875 00:27:39 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 30*74/256*255 00:27:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2211.328125 00:27:54 <Eddi|zuHause> so on average around 2200... 00:28:16 <izua> so how do i make it grow? 00:28:30 <Eddi|zuHause> izua: keep the rating above 67% 00:28:33 <izua> service is outstanding at the mine i'm intersted in 00:28:35 <izua> 88% 00:28:47 <Eddi|zuHause> then it'll grow slowly 00:29:14 <izua> also, is it possible to add signals in tunnels? 00:29:40 <glx> no 00:29:41 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: then there is a bigger chance that it grows than that it closes! :) 00:30:06 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: "statistically", it will grow ;) 00:30:41 <izua> hmm 00:30:46 <izua> in that case i must make multiple tunnels 00:30:58 <izua> and some smart signaling, so the trains can choose the available tunnel 00:31:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that's the standard solution ;) 00:31:42 <Eddi|zuHause> path signals are fairly smart themselves... 00:31:48 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: nope... just tear down the mountain! That's the standard solution, or actually just starting on a completely flat map is 00:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i guess you're right 00:33:07 <izua> neah, no mountain, flat map 00:33:15 <izua> i have a huge map with few cities (100) 00:33:26 <izua> so i can actually make some decent routing and loading loops around my terminals 00:33:53 <izua> but now this whole coal transporation deal is overusing my main lines, so i'm making some tunnels 00:33:59 <Eddi|zuHause> 100 cities is "few" nowadays... there used to be times where the maximum amount of cities was like 70 :) 00:35:18 <Rubidium> even 4 towns is too much :) http://rbijker.net/openttd/misc/mine.png 00:35:18 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:35:36 <Eddi|zuHause> haha :p 00:35:53 <Rubidium> had to completely obliterate one town on that map 00:36:09 <izua> holy batman on a pez stick 00:36:51 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping 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electric 01:18:56 <izua> Eddi|zuHause: yeah, that's today :D 01:19:45 <Eddi|zuHause> izua: you must change the railtype to electric first 01:27:40 <izua> i can't. every railroad square says "can't convert, no suitable rr track" 01:28:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, because you havce not selected the electric railtype yet 01:28:21 <Eddi|zuHause> klick and hold the rail icon 01:29:53 <izua> oh. 01:36:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:52:47 <KarlMay> nobody want play a hard game start 1905?! 01:53:06 <Eddi|zuHause> at 4AM? 01:53:28 <KarlMay> yeah 01:56:27 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 01:59:01 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:4cb4:aac6:e619:f52] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:07:21 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 02:14:25 <ccfreak2k> I might. 02:23:53 *** fjb is now known as Guest248 02:23:54 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AB88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:26:30 *** 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theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.49] has quit [] 08:47:02 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.49] has joined #openttd 08:48:22 <Yexo> good morning 08:50:44 <Alberth> good morning 08:55:02 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12:55 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.25] has joined #openttd 09:13:56 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.11.80] has joined #openttd 09:14:07 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-101-135.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:23 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-97-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:16:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:27:51 <Celestar_> does cargodist work reasonably with ECS? 09:28:35 <Yexo> hello Celestar_ 09:28:37 <Yexo> welcome back 09:29:45 <Yexo> hmm, nevermind, you're probably not the Celestar I was thinking off 09:29:56 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~Br33z4hSl@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32:12 <Noldo> upswarn.sh: UPS ruut-ups2@lame-local is unavailable 09:32:18 <Celestar_> Yexo: I am :P 09:32:19 <Noldo> autch 09:32:20 *** Celestar_ is now known as Celestar 09:33:09 <Yexo> ah, ok :) 09:33:27 <Yexo> in any case, no idea if cargodist and ecs work together, I suspect they do at least to some extent 09:36:24 <Celestar> well at least they do not crash :P 09:38:57 <Rubidium> Celestar: AFAIK they don't quite work together due to ECS industries frequently stopping (and starting) acceptance 09:40:31 <Celestar> ah 09:45:25 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:45:48 *** APTX_ [~APTX@chello089077244008.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 09:47:46 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089077244008.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:49:48 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~Br33z4hSl@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 09:53:33 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0dd015.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:16 *** duckblaster 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timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:39 *** Adambean [CG1@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:12 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:26:54 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:29:13 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:39:48 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20241 /trunk/src/ (4 files): -Codechange: Move variable declarations to their first use. 10:43:09 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d22f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:44:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.103.190] has joined #openttd 10:44:52 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 10:51:21 <andythenorth> new kind of lolcatz: http://bighugelabs.com/output/lolcatfcd2c0d86dfe8de5b2e587c2dc4ed069906879ab.jpg 10:54:49 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not a sailboat 10:56:23 <andythenorth> http://bighugelabs.com/output/lolcat38f748a99866d62ce10692b4851da44ef7807acd.jpg 10:58:25 <keikoz> it's you on the picture ? :) 11:01:29 <Terkhen> we have a crazy polyglot in our wiki 11:09:10 <Terkhen> it seems that he's going to rewrite it completely... and in a lot of languages 11:18:16 *** Adambean [CG1@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:21:31 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 11:25:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:26:52 <izua> 404 not found - i lold 11:28:38 <izua> i've been looking over the dcc standards last night 11:28:51 <izua> is there also a standard for controlling signals and scenery? 11:29:12 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it should be in there... 11:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> equipment like signals and switches should be controlled from the same device as the engines 11:31:55 <izua> no, i mean a separate protocol 11:32:12 <izua> dcc has a limited number of addresses, using it to control signals and such sounds wasteful to me 11:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause> izua: didn't it have something like 10000 addresses or so? 11:39:15 <Eddi|zuHause> the advanced equipment i found talks about controlling 9999 engines and 2000 equipment 11:40:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the simpler boxes say they can controll 127 engines and 256 equipment 11:41:09 <Eddi|zuHause> of these 127 engines, 12 may be on the course, and 2-3 running at the same time (without boosters, then 2-3 per isolated section) 11:43:35 <izua> man i answered in a wrong channel 11:43:37 <izua> >.> 11:43:47 <izua> yeah, there's only one byte of address space in the waveform 11:44:07 <izua> although there are some provisions to double the address space, thus 65535 theoretical addresses 11:44:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C668.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03:39 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe they cheat with having several circuits 12:05:12 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:39 <izua> i guess that could work too 12:14:44 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:15:19 <izua> but as i understood it, you're supposed to have a single station, and multiple remote controls if you want to move around, instead of having multiple stations 12:15:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20242 /trunk/src/ (build_vehicle_gui.cpp rail_gui.cpp): 12:15:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Change: remove the need for "{WHITE}" control codes in some of the railtype NewGRF strings 12:15:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix: make it possible to properly assess the length of the rail toolbar caption 12:15:39 <izua> i guess the idea is to be able to control engines from anywhere 12:16:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. i meant the single central station has multiple outputs, to separate the address spaces 12:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause> so if you have 8 separate outputs for equipment, you can have 8*256=1024 equipment devices attached 12:17:24 <izua> yeah, but then you'd be able to control only 1/8th of it from a point 12:17:27 <izua> unless it's all centralised 12:17:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20243 /trunk/src/lang/ (51 files in 2 dirs): -Update: the strings; they don't need the {WHITE} colour code anymore either 12:17:49 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... maybe i haven't thought of everything... 12:17:51 <izua> and you still increase the address space, because the main station now has to deal with the sub-station address and the device address 12:18:08 <izua> i know very little about this, in practice, i mean 12:18:14 <izua> but i'm willing to learn 12:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i guess you're right, for the remote<->central communication you need the extended address space 12:18:24 <izua> however, i do EE/industrial electronics 12:18:35 <izua> that's actually my main motivation about railway modelling 12:20:28 <TomyLobo> if i have an intercontinental airport with a bus station as far as possible away from it while still being part of the same station. what is the size of the catchment area? 12x12+10 radius? 12:20:32 <TomyLobo> i.e. 32x32 12:23:08 <Eddi|zuHause> depends. for accepting, the rectangle of "10 radius" around the station counts, for picking up, the rectangle around the industry counts, and must contain a station tile. 12:23:21 <Alberth> that sounds like something that belongs in the wiki 12:23:35 <TomyLobo> that sounds like something broken :D 12:23:52 <TomyLobo> what rectangle around the industry btw? 12:23:57 <TomyLobo> what is its size? 12:24:05 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: not entirely sure... 12:24:15 <TomyLobo> 10? 12:24:31 <izua> when you place a station, you'll see when you are in it from the 'supplies' field 12:24:33 <TomyLobo> i.e. maximum station radius 12:24:35 <Eddi|zuHause> rectangle with "some radius"... not sure if it's 4, or max_catchment, or whatever... 12:24:40 <izua> guess you can deduce its size out of that 12:25:07 <TomyLobo> izua that info isnt very helpful with combines stations 12:25:18 <TomyLobo> ...as we just concluded 12:25:26 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: maybe you should check the source. start from MoveGoodsToStation, and deduce from there... 12:25:35 <TomyLobo> eek 12:25:43 <izua> oh wait, TomyLobo is a dev? 12:25:51 <TomyLobo> not for openttd :D 12:25:52 <Eddi|zuHause> then write your findings on the wiki ;) 12:25:52 <izua> sorry then. i've been playing openttd for a few days 12:26:10 <Eddi|zuHause> izua: not only devs can check the source ;) 12:26:32 <izua> myeah, but it takes time to grow familiar with it 12:26:41 <TomyLobo> hence "eek" ^^ 12:27:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20244 /trunk/src/ (group_gui.cpp lang/english.txt vehicle_gui.cpp): -Fix: the caption of the "Available vehicle" lists was black, whereas for building those vehicles, which uses the exact same window, it was white. 12:27:45 <Eddi|zuHause> izua: that's why i mentioned the entry point to start searching 12:27:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20245 /trunk/src/lang/ (49 files in 2 dirs): -Update: the other languages in accordance with r20244 12:30:47 <Eddi|zuHause> looks like it uses StationFinder 12:31:25 <Eddi|zuHause> industry_cmd.cpp:502:StationFinder stations(i->location); 12:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> station_cmd.cpp:3225:void FindStationsAroundTiles(const TileArea &location, StationList *stations) <-- this looks like the place 12:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause> so, it seems to search all station tiles within MAX_CATCHMENT, then check if that station's catchment area includes the industry 12:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: understood? 12:36:42 <TomyLobo> same as accept then? 12:37:16 <TomyLobo> you know what would be more efficient 12:37:26 <TomyLobo> if the stations just registered with the industries 12:38:35 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:214e:4787:f3ab:ae0f] has joined #openttd 12:38:38 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:38:51 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: no, it's not exactly the same 12:39:15 <TomyLobo> how would it be different? 12:39:24 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: imagine 2 bus stations, so catchment radius 3, in 12 tiles distance 12:39:43 <Eddi|zuHause> you have a "blind spot" between these two for delivering, but not for accepting 12:39:50 <TomyLobo> oh 12:39:52 <TomyLobo> right 12:39:56 <TomyLobo> but i dont have that :D 12:41:05 <TomyLobo> but registering would still be better 12:41:34 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: the results of StationFinder are cached 12:41:45 <TomyLobo> that works too 12:42:03 <Eddi|zuHause> although i'm not entirely sure how and where... 12:46:45 <TomyLobo> hmm bug or intended behaviour: 12:47:26 <TomyLobo> i set a train to ignore a signal before a train station. in the station there was a train that didnt fill the entire platform 12:47:37 <TomyLobo> so far so good, everything worked nicely 12:47:39 *** Mr_Sensitive [Archimedes@92.10.70.38] has joined #openttd 12:48:12 <TomyLobo> but then the front train left and some other train decided to reserve a path under the back train 12:48:21 <TomyLobo> fireworks 12:48:40 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC36C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:48:45 <Rubidium> that's intended 12:49:07 <Rubidium> trains always reserve and unreserve the whole platform 12:49:22 <TomyLobo> even if there already is a train in there? 12:49:35 <Rubidium> yes 12:50:04 <Rubidium> because checking for EACH unreservation whether another train might have reserved it is extremely resource expensive, i.e. it slows down the game 12:50:20 <Rubidium> and crashes after ignoring signals are to be expected 12:50:38 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.0.123.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:50:54 <TomyLobo> cant a train just reserve track it stands on? 12:51:09 <TomyLobo> yes, crashes into stuff in front 12:51:18 <TomyLobo> but not being hit from behind from the same line 12:51:36 <Rubidium> it only reserves tiles when passing a path signal or entering a tile 12:51:47 <TomyLobo> or any other signal 12:51:52 <TomyLobo> or when turning around 12:52:04 <TomyLobo> etc etc 12:52:12 <ccfreak2k> It doesn't reserve past non-pbs signals other than "when entering a tile." 12:52:17 <TomyLobo> it does 12:52:42 <TomyLobo> it reserves when passing the signal 12:52:47 <TomyLobo> but not when entering a tile 12:52:47 <Rubidium> except when you're entering a "pbs" block, in which case the non-path signal behaves somewhat like a path signal 12:52:51 <TomyLobo> which is the problem here 12:53:15 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: no, that is not the problem 12:53:33 <TomyLobo> if it'd reserve the tile when entering, it wouldnt crash 12:53:35 <Rubidium> the problem is the OTHER train removing the reservation it made when leaving the platform 12:53:50 <TomyLobo> trains dont keep reservation behind them 12:54:02 <TomyLobo> so there was none in the first place 12:54:17 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: but they REMOVE the reservation in front of them when turning around 12:54:27 <TomyLobo> which they didnt 12:54:34 <TomyLobo> i turned off auto turning 12:54:52 <Rubidium> so both trains entered the platform from the same side 12:54:54 <Rubidium> +? 12:55:15 <TomyLobo> yes 12:55:36 <TomyLobo> one was on "far end" the other on "near end" 12:56:06 <Rubidium> sorry... but a train does NOT unreserve the platform tiles when leaving one tile, only when leaving the station (I just experimentally confirmed that) 12:56:21 <ccfreak2k> Oh it seems a train will reserve track to the next signal after a PBS regardless of type AND up to the next signal if it's a PBS. 12:56:46 <Rubidium> as a result the FIRST train had the whole platform reserved and thus rightfully unreserved the bits IT did reseve 12:57:00 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: your situation is like this: 12:57:12 <Eddi|zuHause> Train A enters the platform and reserves THE WHOLE platform 12:57:14 <Rubidium> that you told the SECOND train to ignore reservations doesn't mean that it does actually get a reservation! 12:57:18 <TomyLobo> Rubidium the dark stuff in front of a train is reservation, right? 12:57:30 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: yes 12:57:30 <Eddi|zuHause> Train B enters the platform, also reserves the whole platform, which was already reserved 12:57:38 <TomyLobo> it works like i said on free track 12:57:47 <TomyLobo> it's kinda hard to spot on platforms 12:57:50 <Eddi|zuHause> Train A leaves the platform, UNRESERVES the platform, because it doesn't use it anymore 12:57:50 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: but we are NOT talking about FREE track! 12:57:58 <Rubidium> we are talking about PLATFORMS 12:58:00 <Eddi|zuHause> Train B is still in the platform, which is now unreserved 12:58:22 <Eddi|zuHause> Train C sees the unreserved platform, and reserves it 12:58:24 <TomyLobo> oh, odd 12:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause> -> BOOOM 12:58:33 <TomyLobo> why is there a special case for platforms? 12:58:42 <TomyLobo> i mean such an incomplete special case 12:58:52 <ccfreak2k> Because it makes no sense for two trains to be in the same platform? 12:58:59 <TomyLobo> ccfreak2k why not 12:59:00 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: same thing can happen with very short trains on one free tile 12:59:27 <ccfreak2k> There's no way to place a signal in the middle of a platform. 12:59:45 <TomyLobo> if they both leave the same way they came and are short enough 12:59:51 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: platforms are very special pathfinder cases, they can only be considered as a whole 12:59:56 <Belugas> hellooo 13:00:11 <TomyLobo> or alternatively, they both leave the same way and load the same stuff 13:00:13 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: trains must know the length of the platform before entering, etc. 13:00:32 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause odd, they never do that for me 13:00:42 <TomyLobo> long trains still end up in short platforms and vice versa 13:00:57 <TomyLobo> they should take the shortest available platform that fits them 13:01:03 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: if they have the choice between a long platform and a short platform, they will prefer the long platform 13:01:10 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: then there's something wrong with your pathfinder penalties 13:01:11 <TomyLobo> and stay at the signal if there is none 13:01:17 <TomyLobo> at last that should be configurable 13:01:17 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: there are pathfinder penalties for that 13:01:31 <TomyLobo> Eddi|zuHause or maybe my platforms are full 13:02:15 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: then increase yapf.rail_shorter_platform_penalty (default: 4000, i.e. 40 tiles detour) 13:02:30 <TomyLobo> ah 1 tile=100 13:02:38 <TomyLobo> that's what i asked the other day :) 13:02:54 <Alberth> Belugas: Hellooooo!! 13:03:20 <Alberth> in a good mood today? 13:03:22 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: this must be larger than the reserved platform penalty, which is per-tile 13:03:41 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Quit: fmauneko] 13:04:01 <TomyLobo> it's 4000 13:04:03 <Eddi|zuHause> or the lastred-penalty, in case you're using block signals at the station 13:04:17 <TomyLobo> reserved platform penalty? eh? 13:04:23 <Belugas> Alberth : Yeah! it's my last day of work before vacations! 13:04:28 <Belugas> so you bet i'm joyfull 13:04:46 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: yapf.rail_pbs_station_penalty 13:04:46 <TomyLobo> shouldnt it stay out of reserved platforms no matter what? 13:05:05 <TomyLobo> it's 800 13:05:14 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: this is for deciding whether to take a detour, or wait until the track is free 13:05:45 <Eddi|zuHause> in your case, you want to wait, not take a detour (meaning take the short platform) 13:05:47 <Alberth> Belugas: so only 8 hours before a long time no work! 13:06:19 <TomyLobo> ah 13:06:36 <TomyLobo> well i usually dont want them to pass through stations at al 13:06:46 <TomyLobo> i always build tracks around them 13:06:55 <Eddi|zuHause> yapf.rail_pbs_station_penalty penalises waiting for free platform, while yapf.rail_shorter_platform_penalty penalises taking the detour 13:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause> you want the penalty for the detour to be higher than the one for waiting 13:07:35 <TomyLobo> it is 13:07:39 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: going around a station is a different problem, there are penalties for that as well 13:08:23 <Belugas> yes Alberth. well... no work... let say no work@work ;) 13:08:48 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: yapf.rail_station_penalty is for stations that are not the current order 13:08:58 <Alberth> :) 13:09:30 <TomyLobo> 1000 13:09:35 <TomyLobo> sounds like enough 13:09:39 <Eddi|zuHause> Belugas: ah, so that's why you searched for tracks, so you have something to do during vacation ;) 13:09:56 <Belugas> lol 13:10:07 <Belugas> good joke! 13:10:23 <Eddi|zuHause> TomyLobo: well, if you feel a train is misbehaving, start tweaking these penalties 13:14:37 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a7070.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 13:15:20 <Belugas> Eddi|zuHause, it's for the long term in fact. both my son and i would like a big network 13:15:40 <Belugas> we decided that a few weeks ago and since then, i'm "testing" the market 13:16:15 <Belugas> so when we'll finish the basement of the house, we'll have plenty of space to build it. 13:16:40 <Belugas> and during my vacations, i'll be working on the said basement 13:16:49 <Belugas> not all the time, be sure of that 13:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause> rule #1: in "basements", there is never "space" for anything... it immediately gets full with "we need to put this junk elsewhere" stuff 13:22:58 *** Jhs [~Jhs4@188.113.85.20] has joined #openttd 13:34:36 <Belugas> it used to be 13:35:32 <Belugas> but Big Emperor decided that Little Prince must have a place to play, that is not the living room 13:36:29 <Belugas> so... when God decides, God will not stuff junk downstairs :) 13:36:47 <Belugas> my junk is never in the way 13:37:06 <TomyLobo> ambiguous *cough* 13:37:26 <Belugas> hey... i only have my diving gear and my music gear. a few construction tools, but that's it 13:37:46 <TomyLobo> you call it diving gear? 13:38:57 <Belugas> scuba gear: 2 bottles of air, 3 dive suits, fins, weight belts, scuba reg, buyonce vest 13:39:01 <Belugas> diving gear 13:39:16 <TomyLobo> you still didnt get the joke :) 13:39:23 <Belugas> no 13:39:26 <Belugas> sorry 13:39:31 <TomyLobo> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=junk 13:39:41 * Belugas is only half way through his 2 mug of coffee 13:39:58 <Belugas> + "nd" 13:40:00 <TomyLobo> it's a pretty dumb joke to be honest :) 13:40:34 <Belugas> ho... 13:40:37 <Belugas> right... 13:40:41 <Belugas> not junk indeed 13:40:49 <Belugas> MY PRECIOUS GEARS! 13:44:46 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C668.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:02:23 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:51 *** Moses [Moses@i5E860EDD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:07:48 <Moses> hey anybody want to play a hard game starting 1910? 14:09:50 *** Pulec|BAC [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:10:13 <izua> i would, but i suck so bad in single player :p 14:10:45 <Moses> doesnt matter is a really hard game you can beginn some times new xD 14:11:00 <Moses> just join "CÂŽs Hard Game" 1910 14:11:04 <Moses> i paused it 14:11:09 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 14:11:09 *** George is now known as Guest306 14:11:10 *** George|2 is now known as George 14:11:22 <izua> tbh, i never even played MP before 14:12:21 *** KarlMay [Moses@i59F44B11.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:43 <izua> but i guess i can try :D 14:13:13 <Moses> :-) 14:13:36 <izua> C's Hard Game 1Air? 14:13:40 <Moses> yeah 14:14:55 <izua> hmm 14:14:57 *** Pulec|BAC [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:04 <izua> can't join.. the button is grayed out for some reason 14:15:36 <Rubidium> more towards the top it'll say why it can't join 14:15:47 *** Pulec|BAC [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:16:03 <TomyLobo> Moses what is there to do in 1910? 14:16:08 <izua> ah it works no 14:16:09 <izua> w 14:16:09 <TomyLobo> except repaying the loan and waiting 14:16:24 <izua> missing newgrf 14:16:27 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:16:30 <Moses> Building some horses and trams maybe? 14:16:38 <TomyLobo> horses? 14:16:40 <TomyLobo> lol 14:16:47 <Moses> yeah 14:17:11 *** Guest306 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:00 <TomyLobo> coop same company? 14:20:33 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:1d38:1d61:2b9:65c0] has joined #openttd 14:20:33 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:d908:36fc:d5bc:908f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:33 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 14:21:20 <Moses> if you like 14:21:37 <Moses> no rules, just play fair. 14:22:10 <TomyLobo> i dont wnna leave an orphan company that's why ^^ 14:24:43 <Moses> we will play this game a little bit xD 14:24:45 <TomyLobo> Moses you're DR? 14:25:30 <Moses> yeah 14:26:09 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 14:27:21 *** lolapop 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BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:35)] 14:29:36 *** ciput [~pria_seks@63.55.62.92.nienschanz.ru] has joined #openttd 14:29:36 *** O00shit [~c0_aL@200.180.46.213] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:36)] 14:29:37 *** ciput [~pria_seks@63.55.62.92.nienschanz.ru] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:37)] 14:29:38 *** Ranger_koening [~CO_PNGEN_@CPE0015f21f08d8-CM0011e6c77b63.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 14:29:38 *** ce_kece [~COWOK_KER@201.24.33.42] has joined #openttd 14:29:38 *** Awoman_Caliente [~babysen@110.136.160.217] has joined #openttd 14:29:39 *** Faisal_36 [~seSha@189.115.193.46.static.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:29:39 *** Awoman_Caliente [~babysen@110.136.160.217] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. 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BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:47)] 14:29:47 *** pria_seks [~ce_tomboy@200.55.239.31] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:47)] 14:29:48 *** duda-jkt-off [~boy_borin@220.227.98.98] has joined #openttd 14:29:48 *** duda-jkt-off [~boy_borin@220.227.98.98] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:48)] 14:29:50 *** s4ndy_k [~cow_oL@85.115.232.137] has joined #openttd 14:29:51 *** c0_JoMlO_Fb [~eric@121.22.15.174] has joined #openttd 14:29:52 *** c0_JoMlO_Fb [~eric@121.22.15.174] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:52)] 14:29:53 *** fida_jelex [~Co_PeMaLu@61.14.181.248] has joined #openttd 14:29:53 *** fida_jelex [~Co_PeMaLu@61.14.181.248] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:53)] 14:29:54 *** joetherich [~sara21@85.15.219.153] has joined #openttd 14:29:54 *** co_mw_ML [~pras_19@c-66-229-248-176.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:29:54 *** l1nd4 [~dp2@110.136.161.171] has joined #openttd 14:29:54 *** l1nd4 [~dp2@110.136.161.171] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:54)] 14:29:57 *** Baboon [~grissou@189.80.16.203] has joined #openttd 14:29:57 *** Baboon [~grissou@189.80.16.203] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:29:57)] 14:29:58 <izua> hmm 14:29:59 *** Fahr [~MarocBeau@200.55.148.172] has joined #openttd 14:30:00 *** grissou [~bo-yaa3go@188.52.5.145] has joined #openttd 14:30:00 *** shadow-man25 [~Zu|fi@62.57.206.151.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:01 *** shadow-man25 [~Zu|fi@62.57.206.151.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:01)] 14:30:01 *** andhy_nac-smapaht [~BigEars@41.234.206.220] has joined #openttd 14:30:02 *** CO-muslim [~co^gudel@200.253.116.2] has joined #openttd 14:30:02 *** CO-muslim [~co^gudel@200.253.116.2] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:02)] 14:30:03 *** derivatives [~caeikoko@203.113.122.250] has joined #openttd 14:30:03 *** sephya_muaniez [~cowo_jele@87.118.94.44] has joined #openttd 14:30:04 *** derivatives [~caeikoko@203.113.122.250] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:03)] 14:30:04 *** sephya_muaniez [~cowo_jele@87.118.94.44] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:03)] 14:30:04 *** Cow_kece [~dimana@125.167.253.194] has joined #openttd 14:30:05 *** Cow_kece [~dimana@125.167.253.194] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:05)] 14:30:05 *** co_mapan_cr_ce [~c0_dws_cr@114.130.13.233] has joined #openttd 14:30:06 *** heATme [~vdfsdfa@91.198.227.49] has joined #openttd 14:30:06 *** co_mapan_cr_ce [~c0_dws_cr@114.130.13.233] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:06)] 14:30:06 <TomyLobo> scheiss spambots 14:30:07 *** ce_manja [~^co_biasa@80.80.133.144] has joined #openttd 14:30:07 *** ce_manja [~^co_biasa@80.80.133.144] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:07)] 14:30:08 *** de_ny [~c0_jakart@41.234.202.246] has joined #openttd 14:30:09 *** de_ny [~c0_jakart@41.234.202.246] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:09)] 14:30:09 *** Cwok_25th_4tante [~goodsamar@c-71-58-9-123.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:10 *** Cwok_25th_4tante [~goodsamar@c-71-58-9-123.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:10)] 14:30:10 <TomyLobo> damn spam bots 14:30:11 *** baerman [~^Cow_BIas@91.187.0.166] has joined #openttd 14:30:11 *** CO_HORNY_BGT [~jual_treo@c-98-194-211-146.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:11 *** iNoCeNt_rOsEee [~ce_alone@125.128.25.151] has joined #openttd 14:30:12 *** iNoCeNt_rOsEee [~ce_alone@125.128.25.151] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:11)] 14:30:13 *** Alone_In_Crowd [~CO_HORNY_@125.164.200.127] has joined #openttd 14:30:13 *** AdieNDA [~man_roman@76.85.141.150] has joined #openttd 14:30:14 *** d-LuFfy [~HUT_RI@118.175.2.75] has joined #openttd 14:30:14 *** AdieNDA [~man_roman@76.85.141.150] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:14)] 14:30:14 *** Alone_In_Crowd [~CO_HORNY_@125.164.200.127] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:14)] 14:30:14 *** d-LuFfy [~HUT_RI@118.175.2.75] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:14)] 14:30:15 *** cow_libra [~Male_33_j@74-222-242-79.dyn.kc.surewest.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:15 *** cow_libra [~Male_33_j@74-222-242-79.dyn.kc.surewest.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:15)] 14:30:15 *** coreblitz [~DropB0t@122.169.108.205] has joined #openttd 14:30:15 *** coreblitz [~DropB0t@122.169.108.205] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:15)] 14:30:16 *** ]S|rD4RkM4N[ [~C0_KTR_CR@eex18.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:30:16 *** Ria^Cantik [~darney@peer.itcbd.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:16 *** ]S|rD4RkM4N[ [~C0_KTR_CR@eex18.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:16)] 14:30:17 *** amie [~Co_Cr__JK@187.6.48.35] has joined #openttd 14:30:17 *** amie [~Co_Cr__JK@187.6.48.35] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:17)] 14:30:18 *** Sry_86 [~cwo_penge@114-32-104-3.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:18 *** natalie`` [~AnakAyam@adjudging-subjection.volia.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:18 *** Sry_86 [~cwo_penge@114-32-104-3.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:18)] 14:30:18 *** nazi[aa[] [~cW_GoWKiL@189.77.8.107] has joined #openttd 14:30:18 *** nazi[aa[] [~cW_GoWKiL@189.77.8.107] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:18)] 14:30:20 *** Siomay [~bLUe_man@119.62.128.38] has joined #openttd 14:30:20 *** Co_Shot [~pria_mapa@123.237.6.35] has joined #openttd 14:30:20 *** v_cky [~Hiicham@210.66.74.158] has joined #openttd 14:30:21 *** Co_Shot [~pria_mapa@123.237.6.35] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:21)] 14:30:21 *** Siomay [~bLUe_man@119.62.128.38] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:21)] 14:30:21 *** user-- [~Konsultan@125.161.40.48] has joined #openttd 14:30:21 *** v_cky [~Hiicham@210.66.74.158] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:21)] 14:30:21 *** Emilie21 [~StillE@41.234.202.140] has joined #openttd 14:30:21 *** user-- [~Konsultan@125.161.40.48] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:21)] 14:30:22 *** Freak_Out^ [~Co_kul_ma@189.59.236.19] has joined #openttd 14:30:22 *** KiRbY1x [~cew_akpeR@190.65.224.26] has joined #openttd 14:30:22 *** Freak_Out^ [~Co_kul_ma@189.59.236.19] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:22)] 14:30:22 *** KiRbY1x [~cew_akpeR@190.65.224.26] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:22)] 14:30:23 *** Co_Kerja_nyari_ce [~Laki-Bang@188.52.5.145] has joined #openttd 14:30:25 *** nice_guyz [~Mat_ure@208.92.248.11] has joined #openttd 14:30:26 *** jrockstar [~iL_at_huM@189.75.171.130] has joined #openttd 14:30:26 *** jrockstar [~iL_at_huM@189.75.171.130] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:26)] 14:30:27 *** Mat_ure [~nindKa_@201-26-201-242.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:30:30 *** COWOK_KEREN [~Co_free@201.20.188.82] has joined #openttd 14:30:31 *** COWOK_KEREN [~Co_free@201.20.188.82] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:31)] 14:30:33 *** cwe_pikund [~ino_crz36@201.24.33.42] has joined #openttd 14:30:33 *** kefin_aja [~Leo_Lee@201.88.74.130] has joined #openttd 14:30:33 *** kefin_aja [~Leo_Lee@201.88.74.130] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:33)] 14:30:34 *** Co_Cr__JKT [~CE_BTHKRJ@121.97.131.130] has joined #openttd 14:30:34 *** Co_Cr__JKT [~CE_BTHKRJ@121.97.131.130] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:34)] 14:30:35 <Belugas> hooo... nice game! touch and go people!! 14:30:36 *** JustinJ [~Fedotenko@200-158-125-140.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:30:36 *** Manwlhs- [~Emo_Princ@85.115.232.137] has joined #openttd 14:30:37 *** JustinJ [~Fedotenko@200-158-125-140.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:37)] 14:30:38 *** joey83 [~di-jual-a@190.200.151.23] has joined #openttd 14:30:38 *** co_naxxx [~cW_GoWKiL@84.32.45.213] has joined #openttd 14:30:38 *** joey83 [~di-jual-a@190.200.151.23] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:38)] 14:30:38 *** co_naxxx [~cW_GoWKiL@84.32.45.213] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:38)] 14:30:39 *** cO_emm [~skrooo@ool-4a599329.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:40 *** cO_emm [~skrooo@ool-4a599329.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:40)] 14:30:40 *** jh4|||3s [~^co_biasa@211.161.159.74] has joined #openttd 14:30:41 *** jh4|||3s [~^co_biasa@211.161.159.74] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:41)] 14:30:42 *** cE-cHuBby [~vithz@121.58.96.10] has joined #openttd 14:30:43 *** bom2 [~cE_imOoet@189.11.11.242] has joined #openttd 14:30:44 *** Gamacca02 [~CARLIE@85.15.219.153] has joined #openttd 14:30:44 *** victorized [~rapat_ama@189-19-12-210.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:30:44 *** cE-cHuBby [~vithz@121.58.96.10] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:44)] 14:30:44 *** bom2 [~cE_imOoet@189.11.11.242] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:44)] 14:30:44 *** victorized [~rapat_ama@189-19-12-210.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:44)] 14:30:45 *** mode/#openttd [+m] by Rubidium 14:30:45 *** Andree [~NickKamu@201.31.219.19] has joined #openttd 14:30:45 *** Andree [~NickKamu@201.31.219.19] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:45)] 14:30:47 *** gay_siang2 [~imutzzzzz@v-63-251-20-204.virt-machine.internap-nyc.nfoservers.com] has joined #openttd 14:30:47 *** Delicius [~cwoPplngs@124.127.108.234] has joined #openttd 14:30:48 *** ce_mauxxdyar [~koala@c-67-191-108-166.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:30:48 *** C0_02192767382 [~Srcaralho@203.175.159.17] has joined #openttd 14:30:48 *** gay_siang2 [~imutzzzzz@v-63-251-20-204.virt-machine.internap-nyc.nfoservers.com] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:30:48)] 14:30:48 *** ce_mauxxdyar [~koala@c-67-191-108-166.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. 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Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:38:05)] 14:38:09 *** cwe_pikund [~ino_crz36@201.24.33.42] has quit [Killed (Maulkin (No reason))] 14:38:13 *** ce_zMp_qLIqUERz [~cwo_zaja@83-145-148-157.cable-modem.tkk.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:38:20 *** nindKa_ [~Cock-On-C@c-76-26-65-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:21 *** joetherich [~MINUL@c-98-222-150-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:23 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i'm not sure if that was a good idea 14:38:26 *** ce_zMp_qLIqUERz [~cwo_zaja@83-145-148-157.cable-modem.tkk.net.pl] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. (2010-07-30 14:38:26)] 14:38:34 *** nindKa_ [~Cock-On-C@c-76-26-65-63.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. (2010-07-30 14:38:34)] 14:38:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: no, but when to stop the invite only? 14:38:40 *** joetherich [~MINUL@c-98-222-150-29.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. (2010-07-30 14:38:40)] 14:38:43 *** DavidB__ [~COW_DJ@c-174-58-110-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:38:43 *** cw3 [~co_tampan@83-65-97-194.klagenfurt-mitte.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 14:38:44 *** cw3 [~co_tampan@83-65-97-194.klagenfurt-mitte.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [autokilled: This host may be infected. Mail support@oftc.net with questions. BOPM (2010-07-30 14:38:44)] 14:38:52 *** DavidB__ [~COW_DJ@c-174-58-110-185.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. 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(2010-07-30 14:38:52)] 14:38:55 <keikoz> registered only ? 14:39:06 *** Srcaralhomar [~ikky@200.55.148.172] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: more than 5 minutes ;) 14:39:18 *** Sadewa [~COWO_GEDE@41.234.202.150] has joined #openttd 14:39:30 *** mode/#openttd [+i] by Rubidium 14:39:45 <Rubidium> keikoz: that won't let them speak, but they aren't speaking... they're just joining (and getting kicked) 14:39:57 *** MeCindy [~asian_fac@dyn-89.136.27.219.nt.upcnet.ro] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. (2010-07-30 14:39:57)] 14:40:03 *** StillE [~co_btuh@213.0.89.4] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Contact support@oftc.net for further information and assistance. (2010-07-30 14:40:03)] 14:40:05 *** diisi_nama_anda [~aanaak-ri@188.52.5.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:05 *** grissou [~bo-yaa3go@188.52.5.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:14 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: no, it also prevents joining 14:40:20 <keikoz> is there not a flag to disallow not registered users to join ? 14:40:22 *** Co_Kerja_nyari_ce [~Laki-Bang@188.52.5.145] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:22)] 14:40:23 *** Velin [~co_kemayo@188.52.5.145] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:22)] 14:40:31 *** ce_kencan [~boy_Jkt@85.15.219.153] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:31)] 14:40:31 *** Gamacca02 [~CARLIE@85.15.219.153] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:31)] 14:40:38 <keikoz> I don't remember, didn't managed IRC chans since a lot 14:40:43 *** Male-Seek-SugarBabe [~junkyaa]]@93-103-51-166.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:43)] 14:40:54 *** bikerman [~Vangella@41.234.206.220] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:54)] 14:40:54 *** andhy_nac-smapaht [~BigEars@41.234.206.220] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. (2010-07-30 14:40:54)] 14:40:54 *** wynn_alvarez [~LNI_commu@41.234.203.6] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:40:54)] 14:41:06 *** Andree [~cow_oL@109.169.166.187] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:06 *** Delicius [~cwoPplngs@124.127.108.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:06 *** OneNighStan [~f-cantik@41.234.202.150] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:07 *** co_cari_^ce_cute [~BlaDe_33@061238129226.ctinets.com] has quit [autokilled: This host violated network policy. Mail support@oftc.net if you think this in error. 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(2010-07-30 14:42:12)] 14:42:14 *** exmud_bthceww_4fun [~om_cr_ce_@pool-173-65-168-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:14 *** exmud_bthceww_4fun [~om_cr_ce_@pool-173-65-168-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:42:14)] 14:42:25 *** mode/#openttd [+R] by Rubidium 14:42:29 *** lolapop [~TheDevil@bas2-montreal03-1279346947.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [autokilled: take your botnet elsewhere Mail support@oftc.net with questions (2010-07-30 14:42:29)] 14:42:53 <Eddi|zuHause> just remember to remove that mode before 6:56 tomorrow morning ;) 14:43:45 <keikoz> What is the command to interrogate the server about all possible modes ? I don't remember it 14:45:28 *** APTX [~APTX@chello089077244008.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:45 <Eddi|zuHause> keikoz: dunno if there's a command, but it's in the welcome message of the server 14:46:49 <Eddi|zuHause> before the MOTD 14:47:04 <Eddi|zuHause> [30.07.2010 06:56] [Willkommen] Server weber.oftc.net (Version hybrid-7.2.2+oftc1.6.8), Benutzermodi: CDGPRSabcdfgiklnorsuwxyz, Kanalmodi: biklmnopstveI 14:47:48 <Eddi|zuHause> although that doesn't mention channel mode R 14:47:58 <Eddi|zuHause> so i'm not sure... 14:48:37 <^Spike^> oh damn... i should know.. but i forgot 14:48:38 <keikoz> there is one command, really useful, which indicates all possibles chmdes, usermodes and so on, with descriptions. But it was maybee only on unrealircd 14:48:51 *** mode/#openttd [-R] by Rubidium 14:48:54 <^Spike^> /quote help 14:48:56 <^Spike^> normally 14:49:02 <^Spike^> but seems not much help this time :) 14:49:14 *** hotz_babez [~Cartoon_@c-76-111-212-181.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:49:14 *** hotz_babez [~Cartoon_@c-76-111-212-181.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:49:14)] 14:49:19 <Eddi|zuHause> /help cmode 14:49:25 *** cari_abg_jkt [~DpK_c0_cE@211.83.105.187] has joined #openttd 14:49:25 *** cari_abg_jkt [~DpK_c0_cE@211.83.105.187] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:49:25)] 14:49:48 <Eddi|zuHause> but that seems not very complete 14:49:52 <^Spike^> oh... i see why you guys asked.. botnet.. :) 14:50:05 *** KOPOBA [~xren@79.126.74.101] has quit [Quit: when you see it brix will shat] 14:50:08 <^Spike^> i've ben waiting for that on my other server for a few days now after i got threats.. 14:50:11 <^Spike^> and you guys got it sooner 14:50:13 <^Spike^> that's not fair :D 14:50:27 <Rubidium> we haven't gotten any threats though 14:50:43 <Rubidium> only threads, but those are on the forum and once OpenTTD runs 14:50:49 <^Spike^> true... 14:51:02 <^Spike^> but some guy threatend my server cause i didn't want to help solve his problems on his :) 14:51:25 <^Spike^> i've been watching the proxy monitor we have.. but it has nothing to do.. :) 14:51:33 <^Spike^> i feel left out now :D 14:51:58 *** amanda2u [~juliette4@109.169.166.187] has joined #openttd 14:51:58 *** amanda2u [~juliette4@109.169.166.187] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:51:58)] 14:52:23 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 14:52:27 <^Spike^> oh well.. :) 14:52:32 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f73fa.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:00 <^Spike^> i doubt i will see these IPs on the irc-security mailing... :) 14:53:07 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 14:57:18 *** Cynthia19 [~Orchideus@200-168-172-226.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 14:57:18 *** Cynthia19 [~Orchideus@200-168-172-226.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:57:18)] 14:57:44 <Rubidium> why would you want to help spammers OFTC? 14:58:17 <SpComb> but I'm not a spammer! 14:58:27 *** bengkel [~ce_lagi_t@203.148.85.131] has joined #openttd 14:58:27 *** bengkel [~ce_lagi_t@203.148.85.131] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:58:27)] 14:58:34 <^Spike^> ? 14:58:49 <Rubidium> X has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:57:18)] 14:59:06 *** sair_ah [~cwo_zaja@166.111.42.94] has joined #openttd 14:59:06 *** sair_ah [~cwo_zaja@166.111.42.94] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:59:06)] 14:59:26 <^Spike^> hmmm... guess default msg and for ppl that are mistakenly seen as spammer 15:00:01 <^Spike^> sometimes IPs end up on a blacklist by someone else... and when you get that IP via DHCP you're screwed 15:01:10 *** kari [~neneksky@219.143.218.251] has joined #openttd 15:01:10 *** kari [~neneksky@219.143.218.251] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 15:01:10)] 15:02:11 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why you can clean 99% of the IPs from a blacklist after 3 days 15:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause> many after 1 day 15:02:43 <^Spike^> true... but still... some prefer the: Ask for removal method :) 15:02:54 <^Spike^> better said: Alot of blacklists :D 15:03:21 *** keikoz [~keikoz@pha75-8-82-230-2-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:03:39 <^Spike^> there are very few blacklists out there.. that daily check the IPs for what they were added 15:03:47 <^Spike^> better said... in my time i've only seen one 15:09:05 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:01 *** adItyA_mO_ce_sMa_bAyRn [~avinda@71.14.141.62] has joined #openttd 15:18:01 *** adItyA_mO_ce_sMa_bAyRn [~avinda@71.14.141.62] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 15:18:01)] 15:22:06 <fjb> That's why I don't use blacklists on my mail server. 15:25:42 <Rubidium> greylisting is actually already quite effective 15:27:46 <fjb> Yes, so effective that mail from Belugas didn't reach me... 15:28:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 15:28:32 <Rubidium> fjb: that might be SPF 15:28:34 <Wolf01> hello 15:29:16 <fjb> His server tried to deliver once, got greylistet and never made e second try. 15:29:20 <fjb> Moin Wolf01 15:31:16 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:36 *** No_Christ_Required [~cwo__bers@059148236188.ctinets.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:36 *** No_Christ_Required [~cwo__bers@059148236188.ctinets.com] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 15:32:36)] 15:33:15 *** izua [~izua@188.25.166.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:59 *** pria_nyambung_ngobrolnya [~jen_21@200.55.148.172] has joined #openttd 15:33:59 *** pria_nyambung_ngobrolnya [~jen_21@200.55.148.172] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 15:33:59)] 15:35:17 *** APTX_ [~APTX@chello089077244008.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 15:35:35 <Forked> huh 15:35:41 <Forked> whats with the bot invasion 15:36:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:37:39 <Wolf01> groan... RMA: me->shop->wholesaler->buffalo, the wholesaler does not want the broken product, the shop asked me to send it to the wholesaler, the buffalo tech support told me I must only bring the product to the shop with the RMA they sent me because neither me or the shop can send the product to buffalo, the shop is exploding... 15:37:57 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has left #openttd [] 15:38:22 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:27 <Rubidium> Wolf01: who sold you the product? Then that entity should handle the warranty stuff 15:39:36 <Wolf01> eh, they tried 15:39:55 <Rubidium> Wolf01: do you have a replacement? 15:39:59 <Wolf01> no 15:40:35 <Rubidium> then they should give you one. It's not your problem that they have problems with getting warranty claims up the chain 15:40:44 <Rubidium> or at least, that's how it's done here 15:40:51 <Rubidium> (legally at least) 15:41:21 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@93.21.11.80] has joined #openttd 15:46:38 <Wolf01> the problem is that initially the shop took my RMA, but when the wholesaler didn't want the product they asked me to contact the wholesaler and pay the spedition dues... it's their wholesaler, not mine, and if the wholesaler didn't want the product back from them, why they would want it from me? 15:47:33 *** Grelouk [~Grelouk@93.21.11.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:41 <Wolf01> and the other problem, the shop is where I work(ed) 15:50:23 *** George is now known as Guest321 15:50:26 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 15:52:38 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~Br33z4hSl@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53:20 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:56:49 *** cE_CarI_pRenD_OnLy [~wondering@79.109.56.145.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 15:56:49 *** cE_CarI_pRenD_OnLy [~wondering@79.109.56.145.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 15:56:49)] 15:56:58 *** Guest321 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3804.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:45 *** De_Ghosty [~s@76-10-180-228.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openttd 16:05:03 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 16:13:00 <[hta]specx> is there a shortcut key to automatically order a train "transfer and leave empty"? I know you can control + order, so that a train full loads... 16:13:25 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3804.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14:42 <frosch123> in nightly you can define custom hotkeys for "transfer" and "no load" 16:15:08 <frosch123> not sure what happens if you assign the same hotkey to both 16:15:13 <[hta]specx> "nightly"? only when sun is down? 16:15:29 <frosch123> go to openttd.org and search for "nightly" 16:16:04 <[hta]specx> expensie word for beta ;) 16:16:09 <[hta]specx> thnx though :) 16:16:14 <frosch123> "alpha" actually 16:17:54 <fjb> OpenTTD "alpha" is more stable than most "relaese". 16:25:09 <[hta]specx> Is there any implementation attempt been in the past (or planned in future) to create a AI squirrel like system for scripting games? 16:27:08 *** Zahl_ [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:1d38:1d61:2b9:65c0] has joined #openttd 16:27:08 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:1d38:1d61:2b9:65c0] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:08 *** Zahl_ is now known as Zahl 16:27:48 <Rubidium> yes 16:28:56 <[hta]specx> is it usable in its current form, or is the project stopped? 16:31:37 <Rubidium> no 16:35:42 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.3.178] has joined #openttd 16:43:01 <Belugas> why nightly? 'cause it's compiled every night. Much more descriptive than alpha. 16:43:22 <Belugas> plus, alpha tends to be a big no no for users with cold feet 16:43:35 <Belugas> no gutts, no gory 16:43:53 <Belugas> nightly? cool... all bug fixes one can dream of having... 16:46:54 <TomyLobo> and all the bugs one can dream of having 16:50:05 <Rubidium> TomyLobo: no, we're not trying to be like DVL 16:50:19 <TomyLobo> what's DVL? 16:50:51 <Rubidium> "Damn Vulnerable Linux" 16:51:06 <TomyLobo> never heard 16:55:43 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:10:21 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AB88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10:38 *** [hta]specx [~opera@ip94-126-210-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:50 *** Protocol [~pro@78.58.248.82] has joined #openttd 17:12:34 *** Protocol [~pro@78.58.248.82] has left #openttd [] 17:14:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5485AB88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:28 <Moses> join CÂŽs Hard Game we need some competion! Horses, Trams and Trains 1922! 17:32:23 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.183.136] has joined #openttd 17:32:25 <Rubidium> would please stop advertising your game every few hours? 17:32:45 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: heffer] 17:33:45 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.183.136] has left #openttd [] 17:33:54 <andythenorth> he came, he went 17:34:00 <andythenorth> I didn't have to troll myself 17:34:16 * andythenorth runs software update 17:34:28 <andythenorth> some time ago I stopped keeping this mac up to date 17:34:36 <andythenorth> wonder if it will blow up when I update it 17:34:49 <andythenorth> if I disappear for a while....blame uncle Steve 17:35:54 <Rubidium> andythenorth: isn't Steve's prefered way of software updates buying a new device? 17:36:23 <TomyLobo> isnt that every mac user's? 17:43:51 * andythenorth clicks the 'restart' button 17:43:56 * andythenorth may disappear into oblivion 17:43:57 <andythenorth> scary 17:45:35 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 17:45:36 *** George is now known as Guest331 17:45:36 *** George|2 is now known as George 17:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r20246 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 17:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: basque - 20 changes by Thadah 17:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belarusian - 276 changes by KorneySan 17:46:01 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: chuvash - 2 changes by mefisteron 17:46:02 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 17:46:02 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 1 changes by ElNounch 17:47:34 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@209.80-203-100.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 17:49:36 *** Guest331 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51:43 <keikoz> I'm reading two things in the wiki which look rather contradictory about http://wiki.openttd.org/Town#Town_Growth 17:52:02 <keikoz> Town growth can be accelerated by loading and unloading at least one item of cargo at five stations within town influence within a two month period. It does not matter which cargos are loaded/unloaded. 17:52:16 <keikoz> In the Temperate climate, a simple bus service can drastically increase the population of a town. It is sensible to connect not-too-distant small towns together with bus services to bulk-up their population before a train station or airport becomes viable. 17:52:39 <keikoz> So, witch of them should I believe ? 17:53:03 <keikoz> (I suppose the first, but I'd like be sure) 17:57:28 <Rubidium> one active station already increases the town growth, though the more active stations (up to 5) the faster it'll go 17:58:21 <keikoz> ok, so fundamentally, both assertion are true, in a different extent 17:58:25 <keikoz> Thank you. 17:59:31 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-116-253.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:59:38 <Rubidium> yes 18:01:08 <keikoz> From what I could read on the forum, looks like the first statement is misunderstood 18:01:41 <keikoz> (I could change it, but my english is clearly to poor for that) 18:02:41 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:06:02 <andythenorth> yay 18:10:06 <andythenorth> my entire life didn't disappear into some borked firmware update or something :P 18:10:35 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC36C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!] 18:15:42 * andythenorth ponders 18:15:44 *** devilsadvocate [~devilsadv@202.3.77.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:17:07 <andythenorth> how would simon foster draw sails for ships? :P 18:17:16 *** heffer [~felix@HSI-KBW-095-208-017-052.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 18:18:03 <Rubidium> with some 200 colours to chose from and very few pixels to colour 18:20:08 <andythenorth> I wondered who would say that first... 18:20:14 <andythenorth> tells me nothing about style though :P 18:20:24 * andythenorth looks for sail-shaped things 18:20:31 <andythenorth> hmm 18:20:41 <andythenorth> why has no-one done a hot air ballon grf yet? 18:21:31 <Hirundo> because it's full of hot air? 18:22:21 <Rubidium> andythenorth: because *you* haven't done or found it yet 18:22:37 <andythenorth> because it carries about 3 passengers? 18:23:02 <Alberth> it should be used for HQ transport only 18:25:04 <andythenorth> balloon logging: http://www.oregonforests.org/assets/flow/forests/logc.htm 18:25:23 <Belugas> any one knows how to translate "bank referral" in french? 18:25:33 <Belugas> i know... i ask a lot 18:26:19 <keikoz> "renvoi bancaire" ? 18:26:59 * Rubidium wonders whether that's coming from some online translator tool 18:27:33 <Belugas> could be, i can't tell. I'm still wondering :) 18:28:07 <keikoz> the sens of "referral" is not perfectly clear to me :) 18:28:56 <Belugas> related to reference, in fact... the bank ask the clerk to call up for voice authorization on special cases 18:29:30 <keikoz> oh, I see 18:29:35 <Rubidium> Belugas: can't you just call a local bank (assuming they speak English)? 18:32:53 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3804.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:33:52 * Rubidium hugs TrueBrain 18:34:15 <Belugas> i try to translate an error message, Rubidium :) 18:34:19 <Belugas> for my app 18:35:10 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: gay 18:35:12 <Alberth> write an openttd patch that introduces the message into the game, wait a few days, he presto, dozens of translations :D 18:35:22 <Rubidium> Belugas: but... don't you have a phone? I'd say a bank employee is more reliable w.r.t. nomenclature than some random person here 18:35:31 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: so I shouldn't appreciate you?!? 18:35:49 <TrueBrain> depends for what :p 18:36:26 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: http://sysadminday.com/ ofcourse! 18:36:39 <TrueBrain> owh ... 18:36:41 <TrueBrain> that bullshit 18:36:45 <TrueBrain> yeah, tnx in that case :p 18:36:46 <TrueBrain> you too ;) 18:37:06 * andythenorth tries to leave feedback with Lego. 18:37:08 <andythenorth> fails 18:37:38 <Rubidium> guess you missed the "aprreciation" of OFTC sysadmins around 16:30-16:40 18:40:59 *** junky[`Z[] [~Azildias@c-98-193-1-133.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:59 *** junky[`Z[] [~Azildias@c-98-193-1-133.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 18:40:59)] 18:46:24 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean the one that is still going on? :p 18:46:45 <Rubidium> yeah, apparantly 18:47:49 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3804.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:03 *** cO26jkt [~co_jelekx@92.49.9.155] has joined #openttd 18:52:03 *** cO26jkt [~co_jelekx@92.49.9.155] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 18:52:03)] 19:05:16 <Belugas> Rubidium, you know... a prompt on a screen... 'Hey CLERK,CALL THE DAMNED BANK" "reason: bank referral" 19:05:25 <Belugas> than" Good Time wasted to you too" 19:05:50 * Belugas will try to leave feedback with guitar 19:05:54 <Belugas> SOOON 19:08:37 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:1d38:1d61:2b9:65c0] has quit [Quit: *schiel*] 19:09:51 *** Zahl [~Zahl@2a01:198:5c1:0:d51d:3349:4ecf:d8b0] has joined #openttd 19:18:00 <Wolf01> I think I was born with a nevus on my back which resembles "f**k me hardly" 19:48:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 19:49:50 *** TB [~patric@145.118.72.132] has joined #openttd 19:49:53 *** TrueBrain is now known as Guest339 19:49:54 *** TB is now known as TrueBrain 19:50:20 *** Guest339 [~patric@145.118.72.132] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:49 *** lobstar [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 19:54:08 <Eddi|zuHause> "hardly" doesn't mean what you think it does ;) 19:57:47 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:43 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:01:53 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:04:50 *** Muxy [~Muxy@main.goulp.net] has joined #openttd 20:06:47 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8843.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:05 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe34dc00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 20:26:11 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc3804.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:37:57 *** tycoondemon [~thok@cc64025-c.hnglo1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Quit: If I were a rich man, Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum. 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Der, der blÀht, als hinterster geht!] 21:57:30 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@209.80-203-100.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 22:07:12 <Ammler> Rubidium: hg log -k '(svn ' -l2 -r 'sort(0::., -rev)' src 22:07:19 <Ammler> -l1* 22:07:41 <Ammler> but it might need 1.6 22:09:19 <Rubidium> that's not significantly faster than my code 22:09:19 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.183.136] has joined #openttd 22:09:52 *** NoBrainHere [~yuraconst@178.34.183.136] has left #openttd [] 22:11:18 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-195-139-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:54 *** Dreamxtreme [Dreamxtrem@92.2.75.49] has joined #openttd 22:25:45 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@r5ba58.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:48 *** Yexo [~Yexo@77-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 22:27:05 *** Yexo [~Yexo@77-88-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl] has joined #openttd 22:30:35 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 22:33:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-116-253.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36:31 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-195-139-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:57 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:27 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.152.132] has joined #openttd 22:46:45 *** Pulec|BAC [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:33 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 22:54:02 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:55:12 <TruePikachu> Anyone here? 22:55:42 *** Chrill [~chrischri@h-5-149.A212.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [] 22:58:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20247 /trunk/src/saveload/ (oldloader.cpp oldloader.h oldloader_sl.cpp): -Fix: when it is known the loading an old savegame is going to fail, bail out immediately (using an exception) instead of going on until e.g. the expected number of byte is read 22:59:27 <TruePikachu> Wait, was that a commit? 23:02:02 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:06 <Wolf01> 'night 23:03:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host138-20-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:05:12 <TruePikachu> Lol @ Bug 3901's title 23:05:27 <TruePikachu> * 3991 23:10:19 <nicfer> anyone liked the 'all climates world' patch? 23:20:07 <TruePikachu> I haven't used it 23:20:26 * TruePikachu hates compiling things from source 23:20:53 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-86-31-224-240.oxfd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:26 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.3.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:04 <TruePikachu> My friend from here thinks that Goods improve the growth rate of a city. Is he right? The Wiki says no, but he is a vetran to at least TTD 23:36:43 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 23:38:57 <Hirundo> goods does not improve the growth rate any more or less than e.g. delivering iron ore to a nearby steel mill, IIRC 23:39:38 <Rubidium> stubborn myth 23:42:46 *** Grelouk_ [~Grelouk@93.21.11.80] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 23:43:38 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:46:54 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:10 *** Lakie` is now known as Lakie 23:51:39 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-83-100-249-65.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:57:18 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:27 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-138-117.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]