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00:21:22  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r20477 /trunk/src/ (aircraft_cmd.cpp airport.cpp airport.h newgrf_engine.cpp): -Codechange: remove some airport-related constants/functions and add some documentation
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00:36:26  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: yexo * r20478 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Codechange: remove support for 'helipad groups' because there are no airports with more than 1 helipad group
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02:31:47  <Belugas> poor Robert... i wanted him to win.  not Laureen...
02:32:01  <Belugas> ha well... I am not american...
02:32:07  <Belugas> and i'm going to bed
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06:09:17  <Terkhen> good morning
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06:18:25  <planetmaker> good morning from here, too
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07:04:18  <sparr> George: welcome to ignore
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07:34:52  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20479 /trunk/src/ (ai/ai_gui.cpp ai/ai_info.cpp lang/english.txt newgrf_gui.cpp): -Change: Use 'Buttons Name: Value' layout for AI and NewGRF parameter GUI.
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09:51:25  <Wolf01> hello
09:51:56  <Ammler> bonjorno
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11:58:22  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20480 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: make CmdDeleteTown responsible for actually clearing tiles and such; ~Town still checks it though.
11:58:57  <Rubidium> where's the r5k party?
11:58:59  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20481 /trunk/src/town_cmd.cpp: -Fix: statues were not removed when towns would be removed
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11:59:34  <planetmaker> r5k?
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12:00:41  <Rubidium> yeah, make an educated guess
12:01:14  <planetmaker> hm... only guess I can make is FIRS...
12:01:24  <planetmaker> ... but I have the feeling it might be wrong
12:02:19  <Rubidium> @base 10 16 20480
12:02:19  <DorpsGek> Rubidium: 5000
12:02:30  <planetmaker> :-P
12:02:48  <planetmaker> then the k is wrong
12:02:59  <planetmaker> as k is the unit for decimal
12:03:27  <peter1138> no, k is the symbol for thousands
12:03:42  <planetmaker> in the decimal system
12:03:45  <Rubidium> really? It works well for binary as well
12:03:52  <Wolf01> H&5k :P
12:03:57  <planetmaker> 1000b = 1k?
12:04:22  <Rubidium> nah, 1024 = 1k... but still
12:04:36  <peter1138> 1024 bytes = 1 kibibyte ;)
12:04:40  <Wolf01> yes, 1000b=1kb
12:04:48  <peter1138> 1000 = 1k
12:05:00  <planetmaker> which is crude mis-use of the decimal k. You just used it like 1000b = 1kbit ;-)
12:05:58  <Wolf01> and think that this confusion is all due to the HDD producers...
12:06:00  <Rubidium> but... 1000b = 1kb, after all... bits are used for speeds which use 1000 and bytes are used inconsistently for the rest
12:19:43  <Lakie> ki = 1024, k = 1000
12:20:10  <Aemy> What about Ko?
12:20:16  <Lakie> Dunno
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12:21:04  <Lakie> Oddly windows uses ki for k which is confusing, since manufactors usually use k.
12:22:09  <peter1138> Ko is just french... kilo octets
12:23:07  <Rubidium> so that's 8192 :)
12:23:34  <Wolf01> that's 8Ko
12:24:41  <Rubidium> since when is an octet 1?
12:24:49  <Wolf01> 8bits
12:25:50  <Rubidium> and thus 8192 "units", at least when Ko is compared to ki / k
12:25:51  <peter1138> octet = byte
12:26:01  <peter1138> 8 bits = 1 octet/byte
12:26:31  <Rubidium> but then you're comparing kB, and kiB to Ko
12:27:17  <Rubidium> and not k and ki to Ko
12:28:14  <Wolf01> Ko means KiB
12:28:46  <Rubidium> doh, but then it shouldn't be compared to k / ki!
12:29:04  <peter1138> i don't think anyone was comparing it :)
12:30:31  * Aemy brainfried
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12:45:38  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20482 /trunk/ (17 files in 6 dirs): -Codechange: move some object related information off the map and unify the relation objects have to towns
12:55:34  <planetmaker> that nearly tastes like "prepare for new objects" ;-)
12:56:18  <Eddi|zuHause> he promised us that it does not mean that :)
12:56:58  <planetmaker> he
12:57:14  <planetmaker> did he?
12:59:45  <Rubidium> yeah
13:00:03  <planetmaker> ah, a pity
13:00:51  <Rubidium> but then, what is newobjects?
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13:04:04  <Eddi|zuHause> it's short for new[grf definable non-interacting ]objects
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13:04:37  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: which variant thereof?
13:05:42  <Eddi|zuHause> how should i know ;)
13:06:06  <Rubidium> the one in the specs, the one in ttdp or the one in Lakie's head?
13:06:37  <Eddi|zuHause> probably neither ;)
13:07:12  <Lakie> Heh
13:07:44  <Lakie> One in my head is in flux and slightly shelved due to looking for placement work...
13:10:36  <Eddi|zuHause> if your head is in flux, maybe you should cut down on the LSD ;)
13:12:31  <Lakie> My head isn't in flux, just the newobject spec and various ideas and changes to it.
13:12:33  <Lakie> :p
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13:19:56  <dihedral> better just stick to one story ^^
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13:44:49  <Hirundo> Windows version detection fails for me, is this a known problem? (using hg and r20482)
13:45:25  <Rubidium> nope
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14:20:04  <patryk> hey ppl
14:20:17  <patryk> i've got a question regarding web translator
14:20:26  <patryk> anyone to help here ?
14:21:27  <frosch123> @topic -2
14:21:28  <DorpsGek> frosch123: topic [<channel>]
14:21:35  <frosch123> hmm, how does that work?
14:22:05  <patryk> guys
14:22:06  <Terkhen> patryk: ask your question directly
14:22:09  <planetmaker> @topic get -2
14:22:09  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: Don't ask to ask, just ask
14:22:13  <patryk> hehe
14:22:18  <Terkhen> yeah, that :P
14:22:36  <patryk> i would like to have the same functionality as the web translator has on my own server
14:22:51  <planetmaker> it's unreleased software
14:22:56  <patryk> i am a very active member of polish translation community for openttd
14:23:47  <patryk> i would like to translate some other web based systems
14:24:04  <glx> not possible for now
14:24:13  <glx> maybe with the next version
14:24:43  <patryk> oh ok because I believe it would be a great product for other people
14:24:54  <patryk> for translating some other stuff
14:25:00  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r20483 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Doc: RefitOption operators.
14:25:22  <patryk> anyway, great job with the web translator guys , its very easy and damn useful
14:25:23  <glx> we'd like to use it to translate openttd website too
14:26:13  <patryk> does it take csv files for translation ?
14:26:43  <glx> for now it understands only openttd lang files
14:26:43  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r20484 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move BuildRefitList to the RefitWindow class.
14:27:45  <patryk> is there a way to write some plugin to extend the functionality ?
14:27:53  <glx> no
14:29:05  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r20485 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#4012]: Sorting of refittable cargos was wrong for trains.
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14:33:49  <Eddi|zuHause> all that was planned once, but stalled due to lack of developer time
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14:51:27  <Hirundo> Rubidium: task added here: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4029
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14:55:16  <Ammler> Hirundo: does it need a path at all?
14:55:36  <Ammler> I guess, that is a typo of Rubi
14:56:02  <Hirundo> It is run from the /projects directory, so changing to the root dir would be nice, though not necessary in 99% of the cases
14:56:41  <Ammler> findversion.sh doesn't have a path
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14:58:28  <Ammler> -f needs a file
14:58:45  <Ammler> or no path
14:59:17  <Ammler> --cwd or -R isn't needed in most cases
15:00:04  <Ammler> only if you are in repo and you like to run hg to another repo
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17:46:01  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r20486 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files): (log message trimmed)
17:46:01  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:01  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belarusian - 2 changes by Wowanxm
17:46:01  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 4 changes by VoyagerOne
17:46:01  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 4 changes by habell
17:46:02  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 3 changes by jpx_
17:46:02  <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 3 changes by glx
17:47:06  <nicfer> is possible to make maps metropolis-scaled? (that's, a city representing the central zone and towns representing suburbs)
17:47:19  <SpComb> someone added some nice docs to saveload.cpp
17:47:24  <nicfer> s/is possible/did anyone try
17:47:54  <Aemy> Well yeah, it's pretty cool by the way
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17:49:56  <Wolf01> nicfer, yes, in scenario editor you can place some cities and give them the names you want, then grow a city to eat the other towns
17:51:31  <nicfer> well, scenarios are quite boring (mainly no random factor)
17:52:40  <Wolf01> you could always try setting no. of towns really high in small map and regenerate the new game until you find one which suits you
17:57:02  <SpComb> hmm
17:57:18  <SpComb> damn time investments
17:58:03  * SpComb wonders why fonso hasn't given up on cargodist yet
17:59:10  <SpComb> he's still there, merging it in like every other day..
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18:01:08  <andythenorth> planetmaker: what happened to your transfer order gui patch?
18:01:28  <Dewin> I like cargodist... unless there's something better coming, anyways
18:11:43  <planetmaker> andythenorth: that patch is still as new on flyspray
18:12:29  <andythenorth> it's a good patch :)
18:13:06  <andythenorth> found it: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3905
18:13:25  <andythenorth> guess I'll reapply it to my clean trunk :P
18:15:02  <planetmaker> I didn't try, but it's so small that it should still apply cleanly
18:16:21  <avdg> hmm.. can't we use ctrl or something to mark a menu item as default?
18:16:27  <avdg> looks much easier for me
18:17:15  * SpComb explodes his head with git again
18:17:22  <avdg> :p
18:17:52  <avdg> you're not the only one discovering git today :p
18:19:30  * avdg wonders if there is a possibility to have a checkbox in a menu
18:20:49  <Alberth> avdg: of course there is, just hack the dropdown window
18:21:39  <avdg> k
18:28:03  <SpComb> this branch-per-patch workflow kind of fails
18:28:09  * SpComb wonders how fonso does it
18:30:10  <SpComb> hmm, some kind of -tmp branches for the merges
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18:36:06  <frosch123> avdg: there are already dropdown menus with checkboxes
18:36:17  <frosch123> check the settings button
18:37:42  <Alberth> SpComb http://hgbook.red-bean.com/read/managing-change-with-mercurial-queues.html
18:37:49  <SpComb> too late
18:37:55  <SpComb> I'm already 100% stuck in git-land
18:38:13  <SpComb> it's -tmp branches for all my integration branches from here on
18:38:28  <Alberth> even if you stay with the dark side, it may be nice to read about the global idea
18:38:45  <andythenorth> planetmaker: transfer orders patch still works :)
18:38:48  <andythenorth> win win
18:38:56  <planetmaker> :-)
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18:50:39  <SpComb> hope nobody's pulled from my git repo
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19:50:08  <Wolf01> 'night
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20:17:31  <SpComb> where's the mechanism for shrinking towns?
20:17:35  <SpComb> over time
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20:19:05  <SpComb> probably partially happens via NewGRFs?
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20:36:41  <SpComb> unfortunate
20:36:48  * ZomgDeadRoot is still bobbing with the blockass soundcard setup in Puppy Linux
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20:57:28  <AlexanderS> hi, is there any way to start the dedicated server without a graphics set?
20:57:45  <planetmaker> there isn't
20:58:01  <planetmaker> for the reason that the 'graphics' set also contains height maps for the map generation
20:58:43  <Alberth> and vehicle properties, and industry defs, etc etc
20:58:55  <planetmaker> uhm... not quite :-)
20:59:05  <planetmaker> they're hard-coded in OpenTTD for the defaults
20:59:38  <AlexanderS> okay... opengfx should be fine?
20:59:43  <planetmaker> yes
20:59:55  <AlexanderS> then maybe there is a bug in the gentoo ebuild...
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21:00:56  * planetmaker has no clue about gentoo's packages
21:01:20  <AlexanderS> i will report to the gentoo bugtracker :)
21:03:30  <planetmaker> is opengfx no dep for openttd for dedicated?
21:03:38  <planetmaker> Then that's an omission indeed
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21:05:16  <Ammler> it is a wonder, if your distro supports dedicated
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21:08:16  <scott1429> dose any one know where i can download train depos
21:08:42  <Alberth> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/
21:10:28  <Alberth> or the 'online content' bananas service of course
21:10:51  <scott1429> is that locom
21:11:07  <Alberth> openttd of course
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21:32:25  <scott1429> still can not find  and train depo for loco
21:32:56  <Alberth> the game 'locomotion'?
21:33:03  <scott1429> yes
21:33:12  <Alberth> if yes, why do you ask in #openttd?
21:33:53  <scott1429> iv lookend and can not find
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21:35:01  <Alberth> I know nothing at all about locomotion, it does not even run at my system.
21:35:33  <Alberth> you could ask at the locomotion forums perhaps
21:36:31  <scott1429> ok do you know any one on here in this chat room and could you ask
21:36:44  <planetmaker> hm. which command will remove the first lines which match "// #" (w/o quotes) until the first not matching line?
21:36:50  <planetmaker> head and tail don't seem to do the trick
21:37:17  <Rubidium> awk
21:38:36  <Alberth> scott1429: everybody has seen your questions, as nobody answered, either nobody knows it, or they are all asleep.
21:39:24  <scott1429> ok
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21:47:52  <frosch123> planetmaker: sed '/^\/\/ #/ D; :loop; P; s/.*//; N; b loop'
21:48:36  <planetmaker> :-O damn... that expression is near unreadable
21:48:53  <frosch123> it gets more readable with newlines instead of ; :)
21:49:05  <frosch123> not tested btw
21:49:13  <planetmaker> I shall try :-)
21:49:26  <planetmaker> but that's verbatim? also the loop etc?
21:49:35  <frosch123> yes
21:49:40  <frosch123> "loop" is a labelname
21:49:50  <planetmaker> ah
21:49:53  <frosch123> you can also put "bla" there
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21:52:42  <Rubidium> nah, I'd put something evil there :)
21:53:06  <Rubidium> like "sed" :)
21:53:25  <planetmaker> :-P
21:53:46  <planetmaker> hm... doesn't grfcodec and renum choke anymore on lines like # 6 "<stdin>" 2 ?
21:56:46  <planetmaker> hm. indeed.
21:56:58  <planetmaker> Which makes the whole regex replace stuff unnecessary
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22:04:52  <scott1429> well i found them but can not down load
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22:09:29  <Terkhen> good night
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