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joined #openttd 08:34:29 <Alberth> good morning 08:50:05 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:52:23 <planetmaker> moin 08:52:34 <robotboy> evning 08:57:46 <andythenorth_> Alberth: is it possible to update the industry opening patch to r20849? 08:57:54 <andythenorth_> I want to try it with a save game I'm playing 08:58:35 <Alberth> I have a new one instead, is that OK too ? 08:59:04 <Alberth> not save game compatible with any previous version though 08:59:12 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-229-115.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:00:48 <Alberth> that should be fixable, but it does not seem worth the trouble imo 09:01:57 <Alberth> oh, to be clear, "any previous version" means any patched version, it should load trunk fine 09:03:25 <andythenorth_> Alberth: I'll try it :) 09:03:43 <andythenorth_> my savegame is currently trunk r20837, but seems to load in r20849 ok 09:04:17 <Alberth> trunk is very compatible with itself :) 09:05:09 <planetmaker> lucky us 09:05:13 <planetmaker> :-) 09:05:17 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 09:05:55 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:05:57 <planetmaker> Though one save option would be nice, but mostly not worth the trouble: "legacy save. Save as version 1.0 savegame" or alike 09:06:39 <planetmaker> that currently would make it A LOT easier to create scenarios for those who don't have nightlies. But current nightlies are MUCH better suitable for that ;-) 09:08:10 <Alberth> andythenorth_: currently, I have reduced debug output (just a monthly dump of current industry counts + opening/closing) is that enough? 09:10:49 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/ind_mgr3_r20842.patch VERY untested, last change is still warm :) 09:10:57 <Rubidium> savegame deconversion will be pretty difficult as it needs to downgrade the data, then save it and then upgrade it again 09:13:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:14:29 <Noldo> why isn't make copy, downgrade, save, throw away, possible? 09:15:10 <Rubidium> requires rewriting a huge amount of code 09:15:19 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:18:52 *** lobstah [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:21:09 <planetmaker> I know... it might require e.g. to remove all objects or alike 09:21:38 *** lobster [~michielbi@86.89.201.189] has joined #openttd 09:21:38 <planetmaker> possibly some even more nasty consequences with newgrfs 09:22:08 <Alberth> planetmaker: better backport the changes that make the editor easier to use to 1.0 :) 09:23:00 <planetmaker> hm? you mean backport the newgrf gui, the parameter settings? 09:23:05 <planetmaker> that's half of 1.1 :-P 09:23:33 <planetmaker> oh and the water% :-) 09:25:21 <Rubidium> yeah, we'll backport that to 1.1.0-beta1 :) 09:26:29 <Alberth> planetmaker: just be glad you can use 1.0 instead of, say, 0.6 :p 09:27:13 <planetmaker> :-P 09:27:25 <planetmaker> hehe @ Rubidium :-) 09:27:31 <Rubidium> but 0.3.5 is awesome 09:27:32 <planetmaker> That's a task I'll leave to you ;-) 09:28:14 <Alberth> unfortunately, I missed all of 0.3.x and 0.4.x :) 09:29:05 <planetmaker> at some point I must have played one of the newer 0.4.x 09:29:13 <planetmaker> but I don't quite recall it playing much ;-) 09:29:23 <planetmaker> I really only started with the late 0.5.x 09:31:01 <planetmaker> besides, 0.6 was already a huge step forward wrt 0.5.x :-) 09:31:44 <Rubidium> and the steps seem to be becoming smaller :( 09:33:36 <fonsinchen> just include cargodist, that'll be a big step again. 09:33:38 <fonsinchen> ;) 09:33:47 <planetmaker> Rubidium: says who? 09:34:25 <planetmaker> besides that you make the steps smaller, going down to a new release every 2nd month ;-) 09:34:47 <planetmaker> Definitely not the worst approach :-) 09:35:12 <Rubidium> oh, the Chrome release cycle? 09:35:26 <planetmaker> dunno that cycle. How is it? 09:35:45 <Rubidium> "major" release every 6 weeks 09:36:02 <planetmaker> ah. Maybe similar to mercurial. They're quite fast with that, too 09:36:06 <Rubidium> so release 5.0.0, and six weeks later release 6.0.0 09:36:25 <planetmaker> though mercurial has the same 'major' and 'minor' definition as OpenTTD 09:36:52 <planetmaker> hm... 09:37:02 <planetmaker> well. with 0.1 steps being the major steps ;-) 09:37:11 <planetmaker> even though internally it's called differently in OpenTTD... 09:38:18 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:41:18 <Rubidium> yeah, maybe it's even called slightly incorrect 09:42:27 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:40 <planetmaker> well... not by the numbers. But by the actual use where x.y is combined the real major version. 09:44:14 <planetmaker> In any case it looks better than already going for OpenTTD 11.0 09:44:47 <Rubidium> true, 11.0.0 is for April 2110 09:45:56 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF9531.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:13 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@ip-86-49-60-58.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:47:25 <planetmaker> :-P 09:47:36 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 09:47:44 <andythenorth_> two kernel panics in one hour? 09:47:47 * andythenorth_ backs up 09:47:59 <planetmaker> Not if the current scheme is followed that versions x.[89].z are skipped ;-) 09:48:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe8d2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:51:32 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:38 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [] 09:52:08 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@180.214.232.5] has joined #openttd 09:56:15 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.232.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:56:31 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@180.214.232.5] has quit [] 09:57:21 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.232.5] has joined #openttd 10:17:41 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 10:18:20 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC420B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:22 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:24:38 * andythenorth_ has computer troubles :( 10:24:46 <andythenorth_> and a 10 hour backup to complete :| 10:25:07 <andythenorth_> bleargh :) 10:25:16 <Rubidium> ah well, luckily it's not your personal computer 10:25:41 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:01 <andythenorth_> :P 10:26:17 <andythenorth_> I am pretty personally attached to it :( 10:27:23 <Rubidium> s/h/k/;s/to/by/ ? 10:27:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.221.42] has joined #openttd 10:28:56 <Alberth> ROFL 10:29:44 * Alberth gives andythenorth_ an axe for defense 10:30:09 *** frosch [~frosch@frnk-590fe8d2.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:30:26 * andythenorth_ picks up axe 10:30:28 <andythenorth_> go north 10:30:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fe8d2.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:31:13 * andythenorth_ is over-writing a company backup disk with contents of his computer :P 10:31:32 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:31:45 <andythenorth_> all these word documents from 2007, clearly not useful :) 10:33:20 <Alberth> just make sure your contract survives :) 10:36:55 * andythenorth_ doesn't have a contract 10:38:09 <Alberth> in that case, I agree :) 10:40:22 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 10:45:23 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-249-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:48:27 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:49:47 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 10:53:32 *** rTypo [rTypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 10:54:47 *** welterde [welterde@hex.srv.welterde.de] has quit [Quit: I'll be back] 10:55:07 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@banning.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:56:46 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:57:13 <andythenorth_> incremental backup of small files is slow :o 10:57:24 <andythenorth_> much comparing to do I guess 10:57:27 <SpComb> slower than just copying everything? 10:57:47 <andythenorth_> yup 10:57:52 <andythenorth_> I should just copy everything 10:57:57 <andythenorth_> :P 10:58:39 * andythenorth_ is bored 10:58:45 <andythenorth_> anyone want to take bets on when my backup finishes? 10:58:52 <andythenorth_> we can settle them via paypal :) 10:59:07 <andythenorth_> or bet patches / newgrf features :P 10:59:52 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:03 <Rubidium> it's done when it's done 11:02:36 <andythenorth_> unless my disk fails first :D 11:02:41 <andythenorth_> then it's not done 11:02:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure it's before DNF :p 11:03:51 * andythenorth_ wonders if it will be done in twice the time it takes to be half-done 11:04:21 * andythenorth_ should stop watching a progress bar and go entertain the baby or something :P 11:04:37 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.232.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:49 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.27] has joined #openttd 11:04:54 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20850 /trunk/src/ (industry_cmd.cpp industrytype.h): -Codechange: Add IndustrySpec::UsesSmoothEconomy() to deduplicate code. 11:05:26 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:06:51 *** lewymati [~lewymati@static-78-8-146-157.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 11:08:33 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d60f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:53 <andythenorth_> FIRS is now backed up :) 11:12:06 <andythenorth_> so the important stuff on my HD is safe :P 11:14:16 <andythenorth_> if I had an iPad, I wouldn't need to back up - as it's "Magic" 11:14:22 <andythenorth_> and magic doesn't need backing up 11:15:18 <frosch> is there anything about firs which is not in the repository? 11:15:22 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 11:21:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:13 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:18 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r20851 /trunk/src/smallmap_gui.cpp: -Fix: Smallmap legend buttons must all be equal in size, even if their contents is not. 11:50:10 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:05 <andythenorth_> frosch: some working files, and some stuff that would infringe GPL - like source images and stuff 12:01:15 <andythenorth_> nothing needed to build the grf 12:01:27 <frosch> hmm, how to visualise production levels of industries? while keeping them editable? 12:01:52 <frosch> displaying 1/16 x or 1x or 16x looks fine, but is not editable 12:02:00 <Eddi|zuHause> today is "everybody has a weird colour" day? 12:02:08 <frosch> displaying 1/16 .. 128/16 is editable, but looks weird 12:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch: like an edit box, where you enter "15/32" and it parses that? 12:03:01 <Eddi|zuHause> it's done for virtual time that way... 12:03:03 <frosch> displaying 12.5% .. 100% ... 800% looks also fine, but is not very editable either 12:03:20 <Eddi|zuHause> or what do you mean with "editable"? 12:03:33 <frosch> Eddi|zuHause: setting production of industries in scenario editor 12:03:47 <frosch> currently it tries to set the production rate, which is broken 12:03:55 <frosch> so it has to set the production multiplier instead 12:04:04 <frosch> which is 16 at default production 12:04:12 <frosch> so you can set it to values from 1 to 128 or so 12:04:52 <frosch> so either you set values 1/16 .. 128/16, or a percentage in 6% steps, or ... 12:05:04 <Eddi|zuHause> and "set" by a <|> button or editbox? 12:05:11 <frosch> both 12:05:18 <frosch> <|> is easy 12:05:30 <frosch> but what should be entered in the editbox? 12:05:34 <Eddi|zuHause> if you do power of two by each step, <|> is easy 12:05:54 <Eddi|zuHause> like i said, the virtual time patch parses the editbox in a HH:MM:SS format 12:06:03 <frosch> i guess i go for the percentage, rounding to 6% steps does not sound that wrong 12:06:27 <Eddi|zuHause> you could do the same for an x/y, x.y or x.y% format 12:06:59 <frosch> and how intuitive is entering 4/16 ? 12:07:14 <Eddi|zuHause> you can allow arbitrary input, and round accordingly 12:07:25 <frosch> then someone wants to enter 1/6 or so 12:07:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes... 12:07:49 <frosch> percentage is a lot easier :) 12:08:01 <Eddi|zuHause> need an algorithm for (exact) rounding of rational numbers 12:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean: they are syntactically different, so you can allow all of them in one edit box 12:09:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and you have a rudimentary lexer/parser 12:09:20 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cd81.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:27 <frosch> tmwftlb 12:09:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i could have a go at the parser, if you provide the rest of the GUI stuff ;) 12:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> just give me a stub that takes a string, and i return a number between 1 and 128 12:11:00 <frosch> i->production_rate[line] = ClampU(atoi(str) / 8, 0, 255); <- take that line of industry_gui.cpp 12:11:33 <frosch> then assign prod_level instead of production_rate 12:11:56 <frosch> values between 1 and 128, and 16 being normal level 12:12:08 <frosch> so 1/16 to 8 12:12:14 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Quit: michi_cc] 12:12:16 *** michi_cc [michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 12:12:20 <frosch> hmm, actually only 4/16 to 8 12:12:33 <frosch> 4 to 128 12:16:40 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d60f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:37 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:41b4:d063:a0ab:2948] has joined #openttd 12:22:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:23:11 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:27:22 *** rTypo [rTypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has quit [] 12:33:30 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d285.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:35:57 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:40:41 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8cd81.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:27 * andythenorth_ wonders which mp3s it is worth backing up :P 12:47:35 <andythenorth_> pet shop boys obviously 12:47:40 <andythenorth_> depeche mode definitely 12:47:44 <andythenorth_> take that, not so sure 12:48:51 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-57-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:54:30 <Eddi|zuHause> you really have time to decide that for each one individually? 12:58:34 <andythenorth_> nah not really 12:59:01 * andythenorth_ wonders if it's safe to play ottd while backing up 12:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 13:00:11 <Eddi|zuHause> openttd does not continuously write files 13:00:24 <Eddi|zuHause> only sporadic autosaves 13:01:21 <andythenorth_> ottd was allegedly the active process when the last kernel panic happened 13:01:34 <andythenorth_> however I suspect an OS X level issue (or hardware fault) 13:02:21 <Ammler> there are no suspicious sounds? 13:02:54 <andythenorth_> no 13:03:05 * andythenorth_ has forgotten his root password :( 13:04:42 <Ammler> rescue mode -> chroot <yourdisk> -> passwd 13:05:12 <Rubidium> just install Windows, there you don't need a root password 13:05:15 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8d8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:17 <andythenorth_> :) 13:05:55 <glx> <Ammler> rescue mode -> chroot <yourdisk> -> passwd <-- wow security is nice on OSX 13:06:43 <Ammler> glx: how do you recover the admin pw on windows? 13:06:51 <glx> you don't 13:07:08 <Rubidium> Ammler: like the solution for all Windows problems... reinstall from scratch :) 13:07:14 <Ammler> well, not recover, just write new 13:07:51 <glx> I can remember if I have an admin pw 13:07:56 <glx> *can't 13:08:34 <Ammler> there are other ways to make a new root pw 13:10:48 *** Amis [~Amis@5400EBFD.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:43 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d285.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:07 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:26:42 *** fani0z [~fanioz@180.214.232.12] has joined #openttd 13:28:02 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@banning.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:37 *** rTypo [rTypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 13:29:52 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:32:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:34:35 *** Alberth is now known as Guest899 13:34:49 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:36:35 *** Guest899 [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:38:29 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:50:58 <andythenorth_> Alberth: sorry, I lost the link to the industry patch 13:51:09 <andythenorth_> would you mind reposting... 13:51:20 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c783.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:51:50 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/diffs/ind_mgr3_r20842.patch 13:52:58 <andythenorth_> thanls 13:53:00 <andythenorth_> thanks even 13:53:01 <andythenorth_> :P 13:54:25 <Alberth> I might also need that later, I am making a mess in my patch queue :) 13:56:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:00 <frosch> hehe, i also fetched a patch back from there once :p 13:57:06 <frosch> or twice... 13:58:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:43 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c8d8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:33 *** fani0z [~fanioz@180.214.232.12] has quit [Quit: brb] 14:02:42 *** davis [~b@p5B28AE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:54 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:29:29 <andythenorth_> hmm 14:29:47 <andythenorth_> how do I hg up to r20842 (svn rev)? 14:30:53 <Eddi|zuHause> check how findversion.sh gets the svn rev? 14:31:04 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 14:32:28 <Ammler> andythenorth_: maybe my ottdbash is helpful for you :-) 14:32:28 <glx> find the hg rev with this svn rev in its log 14:33:04 <andythenorth_> glx: thanks 14:33:59 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@banning.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:34:19 *** Sacro1 [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-249-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:36:37 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ottdbash/repository/show/lib 14:37:32 <andythenorth_> Alberth: does the patch compile for you against 20842? 14:39:04 <Alberth> my current version does, which only has a few different (mostly line) numbers compared to yours. 14:40:13 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:40:20 <robotboy> hello 14:40:27 <Alberth> hello 14:40:44 <Alberth> hmm, I spoke too soon :( 14:40:49 <Alberth> andythenorth_: ^^ 14:40:50 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c254.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:55 <Alberth> andythenorth_: src/industry_cmd.cpp:2142 started with a "+" due to copy/paste from a patch file 14:46:31 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@banning.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:10 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c783.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:36 <Alberth> andythenorth_: http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/ind_mgr3_r20851.patch my current version, initial number of industries is a bit different 15:01:38 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:47 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:04:28 <andythenorth_> Alberth: succeeded 15:04:31 <andythenorth_> thanks 15:05:52 <Alberth> andythenorth_: http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/process_indmeasurements.py a rudimentary post-processing script of the debug output 15:07:10 <Alberth> andythenorth_: rather than reserving space for not-yet-available industries, this patch will continue to create new industries for you to connect 15:09:21 * Alberth ponders about getting more than one tester 15:09:52 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:40:19 *** SpBot [spbot@skrblz.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 15:40:27 <SpComb> bettar 15:45:43 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c254.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:18 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 15:53:21 *** SpComb^ [terom@zerg.fixme.fi] has joined #openttd 15:55:41 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:22 *** Sacro2 [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-21-139.karoo.kcom.com] has joined #openttd 16:06:47 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0e657.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:26 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-249-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:51 *** Sacro1 [~Sacro@adsl-83-100-249-121.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:17 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:28 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:29 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10:49 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:13:07 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has joined #openttd 16:21:43 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:23:24 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n12.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:15 <andythenorth_> hmm 16:27:24 <andythenorth_> UKRS2 won't refit to FIRS building materials 16:27:34 * andythenorth_ suspects some mistake 16:27:41 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has left #openttd [] 16:28:38 <Rubidium> hmm... not even Doris Day is on TV :( 16:29:02 * Rubidium now wonders how many have a clue what I'm refering to 16:29:12 * Rubidium fears that might be close to zero though 16:30:04 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d5ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:58 <andythenorth_> are cargo classes AND or OR 16:32:03 <andythenorth_> e.g. 'covered piece' 16:32:13 <andythenorth_> does that get me covered or piece, or only vehicles that support both? 16:32:33 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8ca06.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:32:35 <Rubidium> aren't there two masks? 16:32:46 <Rubidium> one and and one or mask or something? 16:33:12 <andythenorth_> I don't really understand them 16:33:25 <andythenorth_> cargo classes work brilliantly, but are brain ache to understand :P 16:33:40 <andythenorth_> I just try stuff until something works usually 16:34:12 <Rubidium> ah well, you'll understand it better than I do 16:35:35 <Yexo> andythenorth_: see the table here: http://hg.openttdcoop.org/nml/raw-file/tip/docs/reference.html#property-vehicles 16:35:41 <Yexo> second one, not the one with the properties 16:35:47 <Yexo> does that make it any more clear how it works? 16:36:59 <andythenorth_> yes 16:37:01 <andythenorth_> thanks 16:37:13 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c6f8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:26 <andythenorth_> doesn't actually solve my problem :) 16:37:41 <andythenorth_> I'm still just trying stuff until it works, but now I understand 16:38:32 <Yexo> <andythenorth_> UKRS2 won't refit to FIRS building materials <- Shouldn't that be fixed in UKRS2 instead of FIRS? 16:38:47 <andythenorth_> no 16:38:57 <andythenorth_> it was a failure of class definitions by me 16:39:10 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8d5ba.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:14 <andythenorth_> and also, I know pikka probably won't fix it, he'll just tell me to change the class :) 16:40:20 <andythenorth_> hmm 16:40:31 <andythenorth_> looks like building materials get to be 'express' 16:40:37 <andythenorth_> which is interesting :P 16:40:51 <Yexo> that sound wrong :p 16:41:21 *** davis [~b@p5B28AE2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:26 <andythenorth_> it's the only way to get the covered hopper in NARS 2 to support it 16:41:38 <Yexo> what about the covered class? 16:41:52 <andythenorth_> looks like pikka isn't supporting the covered class :) 16:41:52 <andythenorth_> it means that bricks and cement travel by mail vans 16:42:22 <andythenorth_> also by plane :o 16:42:23 <Eddi|zuHause> so it should really be fixed in UKRS2? 16:42:37 <Yexo> ^^ getting pikka to fix it would still be better 16:42:40 <andythenorth_> the issue is now with NARS 2 16:42:47 <andythenorth_> he'll just tell me it's my fix 16:42:53 <andythenorth_> I reckon, based on previous experience 16:43:06 <Yexo> so tell him it's not and that he should support the covered class? 16:44:32 * andythenorth_ visits tiki 16:46:39 <andythenorth_> which is better for building materials (cement/bricks/glass etc): 16:46:45 <andythenorth_> (1) travels in coal hoppers or (2) NARS 2 covered hoppers don't refit to this cargo 16:49:16 <andythenorth_> Alberth: is it useful if I run logs on the industry patch? I'm using an existing savegame, not from scratch? 16:52:01 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:52:58 <frosch> the "covered" class is a quite new, maybe newer than nars2 16:53:06 *** DorpsGek [truebrain@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 16:53:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 16:53:33 <andythenorth_> I'll post in the NARS 2 thread 16:58:36 <Alberth> andythenorth_: a savegame from trunk should simply start at the current situation 17:02:29 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.31.72] has joined #openttd 17:02:34 *** Amis [~Amis@catv-89-135-77-239.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 17:02:48 <Amis> Allo o/ 17:03:06 <avdg> oi 17:03:26 <avdg> *hi 17:03:47 <Amis> I have a little question: conversion of rail is more expensive than manually removing the rail and placing the new one, why? 17:03:59 <Amis> with the* 17:04:33 <Alberth> I would expect not, but try it with one tile 17:05:08 <Alberth> I tend to have so much money that I don't even bother about it :) 17:05:32 <Amis> I tried, I ended up with the following: (1) remove 1 tile of rail on desert: +208, add 1 tile of electric rail on desert: -3466 17:05:51 <Amis> (2) Convert 1 tile of rail to electric rail on desert is 3966 17:07:21 <Alberth> interesting 17:07:38 <dihedral> oi 17:07:45 <Alberth> hello dihedral 17:07:49 <dihedral> :-) 17:07:51 <dihedral> hello Alberth 17:08:01 <Amis> I wonder how it computes that value and if a grf can mess it up 17:09:00 <andythenorth_> Alberth: remind me how to generate the logs (sorry) 17:09:24 <Alberth> Amis the latter is no doubt true, you can do almost anything with newgrfs 17:09:52 <Alberth> andythenorth_: ./openttd -d industry=2 for the new version, but higher numbers are fine too :) 17:10:03 <Amis> I have only I know of that modifies rail cost and that is 2cc making electric rail cost x10 more 17:10:23 <dihedral> hehe :-P 17:12:08 <Alberth> desert? 17:12:46 <dihedral> i'l like some 17:12:48 <Alberth> standard sub-tropic has no electric trains at all afaik 17:12:54 <dihedral> *i'd 17:14:38 <dihedral> Alberth, nice patch :-) 17:15:25 <Alberth> now if only a few people would try it in a game :) 17:15:41 <dihedral> was that a 'please' or just a wish? :-D 17:16:10 <dihedral> i'd assume openttdcoop might host a game :-0 17:16:12 <dihedral> :-) 17:17:24 <Alberth> it is at least a wish. 17:17:31 <Alberth> @calc 224-108 17:17:31 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 116 17:18:19 <Alberth> Amis: standard temperate does 224-108=116 for remove/build, and 92 for upgrade 17:18:45 <Amis> :/ 17:19:41 <welshdragon> hmm 17:20:39 <welshdragon> when I'm trying to find stuff on BANANAS with is2.1.1 it's not getting all the grf's :( 17:21:53 <Alberth> Amis: there are 3 functions: CmdBuildRailroadTrack, CmdRemoveRailroadTrack, and CmdConvertRail 17:22:09 <Alberth> all in rail_cmd.cpp 17:23:00 <Amis> I hope you don't want me to run through a bunch of ++ codes :) 17:23:13 <Ammler> welshdragon: just use stable openttd to download bananas 17:23:19 <Amis> I'm just curious why conversion is more expensive then manually "upgrading" 17:23:38 <Amis> I just tested it on a clean OpenTTD and I still ended up with this 17:23:50 * andythenorth_ googles for how to dump log output to a file 17:25:19 <welshdragon> Ammler, er, i'm on my Mac.... OpenTTD doesn't have a 'stable' version :P 17:25:35 <Ammler> you mean there is no stable mac :-P 17:25:47 <andythenorth_> no he means there is no stable mac maintainer :P 17:26:21 <andythenorth_> Ammler: is it tee that dumps to a file? 17:26:46 <Ammler> we use tee to dump to a file and stdout 17:26:56 <andythenorth_> or just > 17:27:09 <andythenorth_> or >> 17:27:13 <Ammler> if you like to pipe to a file only, you should use 1> and 2> for errors 17:27:45 <andythenorth_> 1> or 2> 17:27:46 <andythenorth_> ? 17:28:19 <Ammler> 1> 2>&1 17:28:20 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 17:28:27 <Alberth> Amis: rail.h, convert rail: Money cost = ((RailBuildCost(to) - RailBuildCost(from)) * 5) >> 2; 17:28:39 <Alberth> so it is 5/4 more expensive 17:28:51 <Amis> I see, so it's on purpose 17:29:03 <Amis> Punishment for lazyness 17:29:25 <andythenorth_> ammler if I use 1> 2>&1 I get 'unexpected token' 17:29:38 <andythenorth_> ./openttd -d industry=2 1> 2>&1 /Users/andy/Documents/OpenTTD/industry_openings.txt 17:30:46 <Ammler> ./openttd -d industry=2 2>/Users/andy/Documents/OpenTTD/industry_openings.txt 17:30:56 <Ammler> you need the debug output only, don't you? 17:31:12 <Alberth> Amis: no, the comment says: (the price of workers to get to place is that 1/4) 17:31:19 <Alberth> and the reverse is cheaper 17:31:25 <Amis> ~.~ 17:31:46 <andythenorth_> Ammler: yes, debug only 17:31:48 <Ammler> else it would be: ./openttd -d industry=2 1>/Users/andy/Documents/OpenTTD/industry_openings.txt 2>&1 17:32:55 <Alberth> Amis: http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/browser/trunk/src/rail.h#L312 17:33:06 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:34:24 <andythenorth_> what if I just dump all output to a file? 17:34:40 <Alberth> ./myprogram >& outfile 17:34:57 <andythenorth_> that'll do right? 17:34:59 <Ammler> Alberth: difference to 1> 2>&? 17:35:03 <fonsinchen> RailConvertCost looks like someone was drunk when writing it. 17:36:11 <Alberth> Ammler: it is shorter, but otherwise perhaps none 17:36:12 <Ammler> hmm, wikipedia is down :-/ 17:36:41 <Ammler> else it might be worth to visit stdout :-) 17:37:01 *** Sacro2 [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-21-139.karoo.kcom.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:37:13 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-21-139.karoo.kcom.com] has joined #openttd 17:38:26 <Alberth> bash(1) weet het ook wel :) 17:38:34 *** rTypo [rTypo@pc54.clicknet.iasi.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 17:39:14 * Ammler wonders if there is something like tee but for both "channels" 17:40:00 <Alberth> een log, een bot laten inloggen 17:45:39 <Alberth> hmm, I should not chat in 2 different languages at the same time :p 17:46:48 <Ammler> oh, that was a languages? Looks like a cat is dancing on the keyboard 17:47:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r20852 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt hebrew.txt unfinished/marathi.txt): 17:47:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:47:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: czech - 38 changes by marek995 17:47:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: hebrew - 8 changes by Metheny 17:47:04 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: marathi - 6 changes by amitst 17:47:58 * andythenorth_ ponders steam cargo trams 17:48:15 <Alberth> translation: "bash(1) also knows", "a log, have a bot log in" 17:48:30 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 17:51:16 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:52:14 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r20853 /trunk/src/lang/czech.txt: -Fix: (again) WT3 not properly validating plurals in strings... 17:53:39 <andythenorth_> Alberth: can coop test the industry patch :) 17:53:40 <andythenorth_> ? 17:57:58 <dihedral> andythenorth_, ask coop? 17:58:22 <andythenorth_> "coop, can you test the industry patch?" 17:58:27 <andythenorth_> planetmaker: Ammler ^ 17:58:39 <dihedral> :-D 17:58:43 <Rubidium> that needs binaries :) 17:58:45 <Ammler> :-) 17:58:59 <dihedral> Rubidium, did you not make some? 17:59:20 * Rubidium wonders how the FS3637 test is going 17:59:32 <Rubidium> dihedral: eons ago 17:59:42 <dihedral> people played, thought it was nice, no more people playing 17:59:58 <dihedral> no interest from those mentioned in the task 18:00:48 * dihedral wonders why people comment on stuff they want to work differently, and do not invest a single bit of interest once a patch exists 18:01:16 <Rubidium> RAB? 18:01:28 <dihedral> ? 18:01:46 <Rubidium> responsibility avoiding behaviour 18:01:57 <Rubidium> just say it's bad, but never say something is better or worse 18:01:58 <dihedral> ah i thought of Really Annoying Bunch :-P 18:04:22 <Rubidium> then roughly a year later say you don't like it 18:05:23 <dihedral> hmmpfs 18:05:34 <dihedral> might add a comment to that bug post 18:05:46 <Ammler> peter1138: would just just commit those patches to trunk :-P 18:06:34 <dihedral> you would for sure :-P 18:08:43 <dihedral> personally i would favor something where more companies could compete ^^ 18:09:36 <Rubidium> dihedral: that's something totally different; this is a prerequisite though 18:09:53 <Rubidium> if you want such a thing, copy it from that patch on the forum 18:10:10 <dihedral> ^^ 18:10:17 <dihedral> i know it's a different thing ;-) 18:10:24 <dihedral> and it makes it way more complex 18:10:36 <Ammler> dihedral: try to find a server where you can compete on a industry without the other making angry... 18:11:07 <Ammler> peopele like "farm" industries alone 18:11:37 <dihedral> then start such a server, people are out there who do like a bit of competing 18:12:13 <Rubidium> Ammler: there's a thread about 2 competing at an industry is too little, so there must be some people playing in such a style 18:12:15 <dihedral> "making angry" -> "getting angry" 18:12:53 <Ammler> hmm, maybe on the goal servers... 18:14:22 <dihedral> there are a bunch of servers that are not goal servers 18:14:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i heard "goal servers" tend to forbid building in the same area 18:15:18 <Rubidium> depends on the server 18:15:33 <dihedral> Ammler, start on: coopeting 18:15:54 <Ammler> ? 18:16:15 <dihedral> a competition game 18:16:17 <Ammler> even there, people asked to split the map and head-2-head was born 18:16:34 <Ammler> which is quite boring, imo. 18:16:37 <dihedral> because you used the same audience 18:18:09 <Ammler> same audience as? 18:19:22 <dihedral> general openttdcoop? 18:19:58 <dihedral> the audience you already attract 18:19:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-67-91.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 18:23:12 <peter1138> what patches 18:26:36 <andythenorth_> yay 18:26:39 <andythenorth_> new industries being built 18:26:40 <dihedral> @fs3637 18:26:40 <andythenorth_> :) 18:26:48 <dihedral> awe 18:28:02 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 18:30:33 <dihedral> @fs 3637 18:30:33 <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3637 18:30:39 <dihedral> that's how it worked :-P 18:30:58 *** Amis [~Amis@catv-89-135-77-239.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: Távozom] 18:44:35 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:45:28 <andythenorth_> good night 18:45:34 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 19:07:13 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 19:12:37 *** Indoril [~indoril@83.243.235.169] has joined #openttd 19:36:12 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db815ac.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:39:55 *** glevans2_ [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-145-187.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 19:40:27 *** JGR [~JGR@oriel-student-nat.oriel.ox.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 19:41:25 *** avdg1 [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:41:32 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:42 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-145-187.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:46:34 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 19:51:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-170-252.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 19:52:18 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:52:26 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm93.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: MAYBE TOMORROW THEN] 19:56:23 *** JGR [~JGR@oriel-student-nat.oriel.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Why is the alphabet in that order? 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(as I couldnt find any.) 22:13:51 <Terkhen> those industries are being tested right now, they will get a sprite when/if they are definitely included 22:15:08 <Banjohero> ah alright, thank you. 22:15:18 <Terkhen> you are welcome 22:21:57 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db0e657.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 22:22:35 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:27:32 *** Banjohero [55a7146f@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:29:18 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:35:51 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:07 <GecK> good night 22:37:12 *** GecK [Geck@pro75-3-82-229-184-63.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 22:42:47 <Terkhen> good night 23:01:08 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:03:00 *** ^Spike^ [~spike@d200003.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7C6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27:04 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:42:45 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n12.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:51:15 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-57-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:58:15 *** Sacro1 [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-21-139.karoo.kcom.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:59:36 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-170-252.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit []