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00:00:31 <GhostlyDeath> Are there such things as dedicated servers? 00:00:47 <GhostlyDeath> Or would they be OpenTTD clients launching a game and doing completely nothing? 00:01:19 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:02:29 <Ammler> both 00:02:50 <Ammler> you can use your client also as server 00:02:56 <GhostlyDeath> I was thinking of telling my (unused) VPS 00:02:57 *** davis [~b@p5B28AC19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:03:02 <GhostlyDeath> Would have to be console only however 00:03:07 <Ammler> but the constant online servers are mostly dedicated servers 00:03:08 *** mindlesstux [~mindlesst@2001:470:8:303:201:6cff:fed4:85ec] has left #openttd [Leaving] 00:03:30 <Ammler> yes, openttd is able to run without X 00:03:53 <GhostlyDeath> What if it crashes? Can it resume from a asve? 00:04:02 <GhostlyDeath> or if the server dies for some reason 00:04:29 <Ammler> autosaves like you have locally 00:04:56 <Ammler> the server is complete client just without drawing 00:05:32 <GhostlyDeath> How much memory does it use? 00:06:40 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE2B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:07:20 <Ammler> around 20MB 00:07:28 <Ammler> but it needs much cpu power 00:07:49 <GhostlyDeath> How much? 00:07:51 <Ammler> so it does well suit vps 00:08:05 <Ammler> as usually those services use a lot memory but no cpu 00:08:27 <GhostlyDeath> 400MHz? 00:08:28 <Ammler> GhostlyDeath: as said, it is like a client 00:08:41 <Ammler> it needs the same what you need locally to play 00:08:45 <GhostlyDeath> I hope you guys use sleep()/usleep() 00:09:11 <GhostlyDeath> however it doesn't cache graphics and such to waste memory 00:09:14 <GhostlyDeath> right? 00:09:24 <Ammler> he, you win a big prize if you are able to optimize openttd :-P 00:09:25 <GhostlyDeath> and doesn't need a screen buffer or anything 00:09:44 <GhostlyDeath> Don't joke, I might actually try it 00:10:36 <GhostlyDeath> My VPS is memory starved with only 128MB 00:10:40 <Ammler> prize=big amount of honor 00:11:11 <GhostlyDeath> And is honor +o or +v? 00:11:27 <Ammler> that something else :-P 00:11:28 <GhostlyDeath> Or commit access 00:12:00 <Ammler> yeah, if you can make it faster, Rubidium will give you the lead ;-) 00:13:32 <SmatZ> @seen DJ_Nekkid 00:13:32 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: DJ_Nekkid was last seen in #openttd 18 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 28 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <DJ_Nekkid> ty mate 00:13:37 <SmatZ> @seen DJNekkid 00:13:37 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: DJNekkid was last seen in #openttd 4 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <DJNekkid> i.e. the 2cc set does :D 00:16:03 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has joined #openttd 00:22:20 <SmatZ> @seen Ammler 00:22:20 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: Ammler was last seen in #openttd 10 minutes and 19 seconds ago: <Ammler> yeah, if you can make it faster, Rubidium will give you the lead ;-) 00:22:22 <SmatZ> hello Ammler 00:26:07 <GhostlyDeath> How much badnwidth does openttd use? 00:26:36 <Ammler> Saletti SmatZetty 00:26:57 <Ammler> 1.3kb/s per client afaik 00:27:27 <Ammler> and the map download once 00:28:25 <GhostlyDeath> Is compression used? 00:28:57 <Ammler> I guess so 00:38:10 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:44:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-122-136.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:01:07 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:04:40 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 01:06:26 <Chris_Booth> @seen anyone 01:06:26 <DorpsGek> Chris_Booth: I have not seen anyone. 01:07:01 *** ryx_ [~paul@f053213184.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:13 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C2FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:58 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d8d3:87dc:20e6:ac89] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:43:28 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:53:24 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC35AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 01:56:04 *** ajmiles [~aj@78-86-188-187.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58:03 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 02:08:39 *** avdg1 [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 02:54:58 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:42:25 *** Pikel [xaero@juggernaut.ircwire.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:26 *** Pikel [xaero@juggernaut.ircwire.net] has joined #openttd 03:47:32 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c085.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 03:54:54 *** llugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c14d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:55:12 *** lllugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c085.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:05 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:27 *** TruePika [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:01:35 *** TruePika is now known as TruePikachu 04:01:44 <TruePikachu> Hmmm...I've been thinking... 04:02:12 <TruePikachu> You know how my system is pretty slow? 04:02:25 <TruePikachu> (and therefore OpenTTD) 04:02:48 <TruePikachu> You would think that it would preform better without KDE running in the BG 04:03:29 <TruePikachu> To me, it seems that OPenTTD 1.0.4 might be preforming better when started from KDE rather than started by the command: 04:04:08 <TruePikachu> X & DISPLAY=localhost:0 ; export DISPLAY ; /usr/share/games/openttd/openttd 04:04:58 <TruePikachu> (That starts up X11 without a window manager, sets up the enviorment vars to tell apps where the X11 server is, and starts up OpenTTD, for you guys who don't know what this does) 04:05:57 <TruePikachu> To the devs: Is there code in place which would make OTTD preform better when running from a window manager rather than straight from X11? 04:06:18 <TruePikachu> Something like caching or utilizing some functions from the manager? 04:12:45 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: brb, trying to config kernel to hibernate] 04:14:40 *** TruePika [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:14:54 <TruePika> :( Resume= parameter still empty 04:15:04 * TruePika HATES setting up hibernation 04:17:45 <TruePika> And OTTD is uncontrollably slow when not started from KDE 04:28:09 *** davis [~b@p5B28AC19.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:37:31 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:55:26 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76B46.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:55:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73A11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:00:43 *** davis [~b@p5B28AC19.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:13:05 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:16:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:35:47 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 05:37:08 *** Silasle [~silas_len@h88-206-139-246.vokby.se] has joined #openttd 05:44:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:47:55 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 05:57:28 *** Silasle [~silas_len@h88-206-139-246.vokby.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:16:25 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e07cb77.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:21:17 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 06:22:09 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 06:23:31 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:27:43 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:46:00 *** TruePika [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: night] 06:46:30 <dihedral> <GhostlyDeath> [04 Oct 2010 - 02:11:11] My VPS is memory starved with only 128MB <- that's not a vps that's a joke 07:19:54 <Terkhen> good morning 07:21:36 *** TomyLobo [~foo@port-212-202-171-176.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 08:01:26 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db8157d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:09:56 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n12.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:12:18 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:22:41 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 08:34:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:27 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC553B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@syd-adsl3-97.idx.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:01:28 *** svip [~svip@prussia.theinfosphere.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:16:02 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:22:19 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:22:20 *** Knall [~weechat@178-191-194-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 09:22:26 <Knall> hi there 09:23:28 <Knall> anyone online who is willing to help me understand some part of the openttd makefile? :) 09:23:49 <Rubidium> depends on the part 09:24:16 <dihedral> Knall, just ask? 09:24:41 <Knall> i only wanted to know what the 2 exclamation marks in the Makefile.src.in means - where are these variables defined? 09:25:23 <Rubidium> they mean nothing; it's just a convenient way to make them easily replaceable by a regular expression 09:25:31 <Knall> :) 09:25:38 <Knall> thanks 09:26:04 <Rubidium> they shouldn't be in the makefiles without the .in extension 09:26:33 <dihedral> lol - my irc client thinks Makefile.src.in is a url :-P 09:26:47 <Rubidium> dihedral: ofcourse it is 09:27:04 <dihedral> one it can open with firefox 09:27:20 <dihedral> as in, src.in behing a host name 09:27:27 <dihedral> domain name :-P 09:27:34 * dihedral hopes it's not 09:27:35 <Rubidium> http://makefile.src.in/ <- that pretty much gives me a 200 09:29:15 <dihedral> oh snap - that's so sad :-P 09:33:06 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:34:16 <fonsinchen> hmm, 403 here ... 09:37:46 <Knall> hmm vi thinks config.lib is written in cobol :P 09:39:39 * Rubidium thinks vi is written in cobol 09:39:49 <Rubidium> (or at least the first versions) 09:43:28 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 09:51:01 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4db8157d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:17 <Knall> is there any easy way to add the -g g++ option for debugging in the makefile? (there is no DEBUG make target, isn't there?) 09:52:50 <Rubidium> -gg++? 09:53:14 <Knall> the -g option for the g++ compiler for including the debug symbols 09:53:22 <Noldo> ./configure --debug ? 09:53:23 <Rubidium> I know -g and -ggdb, but -gg++ I nor my manpage of g++ knows it 09:53:39 <Knall> ahh.. thanks :) 09:53:40 <Rubidium> ./configure --enable-debug=1 09:54:00 <Noldo> Rubidium is generaly more reliable 09:54:11 <Noldo> anyway all the flag things are in the configure script 09:54:17 <Knall> thats what i was searching for, thanks 09:55:38 <Rubidium> try ./configure --help as well. Might be interesting what that says 09:57:51 <Knall> thank you very much, sorry for bothering with silly questions :) 10:01:55 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:33 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:32:50 *** Joni- [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-fe00dc00-41.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:36:30 <Knall> bye 10:36:40 *** Knall [~weechat@178-191-194-128.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 10:39:50 *** Joni_ [~Joni-@dsl-vsabrasgw1-fe00dc00-41.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:46:25 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 10:54:00 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 10:55:28 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 10:57:24 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.15.143] has joined #openttd 11:10:27 *** lugo [~lugo@mgdb-4db8c085.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:30:49 *** Chillosophy [~fu@82-170-139-109.ip.telfort.nl] has joined #openttd 11:43:13 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:05 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED67292.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:49:45 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-159-62.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 11:50:12 <blathijs> TrueBrain: Finally turning our OO-in-C code into reall OO code? :-) 11:50:30 <TrueBrain> yup :) 11:50:32 <TrueBrain> about bloody time :p 11:51:03 <blathijs> hehe 11:51:08 <TrueBrain> the good old times 11:51:13 <TrueBrain> where everything had to be in C 11:58:08 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 12:01:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.232.6] has joined #openttd 12:04:34 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:5d6a:3217:30e6:548e] has joined #openttd 12:04:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:21:08 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1a8b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:14 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:32:57 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:02 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 12:36:02 *** LaSeandre [~sean@millsie.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 12:39:41 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:59 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:46 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 13:10:56 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 13:11:56 <Belugas> hello 13:13:43 *** Strid [~Strid@c-fe85e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:01 *** Strid [~Strid@c-fe85e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:20:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:24:54 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:34:00 <avdg> is it normal that I get a desync when an ai failed to compile, while no ai is used? 13:34:23 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:53 * avdg is confused 13:34:56 <Ammler> maybe you have enabled ais and it tries to start one 13:35:20 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE2B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35:55 <avdg> the server allowed ai players, but I didn't start one 13:36:43 <avdg> I always get a 32 send error and/or 54 recv error 13:37:12 <avdg> I bet its nothing usefull 13:38:06 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 13:38:42 <dihedral> define 32 send error and/or 54 recv error 13:38:55 <dihedral> i.e. show the error message ;-) 13:39:00 <dihedral> hello Belugas 13:39:00 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:07 <dihedral> well - that helps! 13:39:56 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:40:03 <dihedral> <dihedral> define 32 send error and/or 54 recv error 13:40:03 <dihedral> <dihedral> i.e. show the error message ;-) 13:40:05 <dihedral> avdg, ^ 13:40:16 <avdg> I try to reproduce it 13:40:27 <avdg> with some debug levels on 13:40:53 <dihedral> the use of the word 'always' actually made me think you knew how to reproduce it ;-) 13:41:07 <avdg> not really 13:41:19 <avdg> but it works when I try to create a company 13:41:55 <dihedral> i am more interested in the errors :-P 13:42:04 <avdg> well, you get it 13:42:43 <dihedral> :-D 13:43:01 <glx> 32 and 54 are not desync, but OS errors 13:43:09 <glx> usuallay 13:43:29 <avdg> -_- seems I can't find my screenshots 13:44:36 <avdg> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8529206/Schermafbeelding%202010-10-04%20om%2015.44.17.png 13:44:40 <avdg> maybe not very usefull 13:44:48 <avdg> but I don't know how to get more information 13:45:10 <glx> AI are started because you lost connection 13:47:30 <avdg> bleh, net gives me too much information 13:47:48 <Rubidium> 32 = broken pipe, 54 = exchange full (at least under Linux) 13:48:27 <dihedral> that looks like OS X 13:48:27 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:41 <glx> on windows errors are 100XX IIRC 13:49:02 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:51:04 <glx> with a connection as stable as yours it's not surprising you have problems in multiplayer :) 13:51:04 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52:08 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:52:20 <dihedral> glx: LOL :-) 13:52:39 <dihedral> avdg, you are on OS X right? 13:52:39 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52:42 <dihedral> hmmpf 13:52:46 <glx> too late :) 13:53:15 <dihedral> cases where network 'modulation' is misunderstood 13:53:26 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:53:32 <dihedral> SIT 13:53:33 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 13:53:37 <avdg> I think I should blame that server or my isp 13:53:43 <glx> isp 13:53:55 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:56:04 <dihedral> it's always the others, ey? 13:56:04 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:06 <dihedral> lol 13:56:32 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:56:41 <dihedral> you playing hide 'n seek with us? 13:56:52 <dihedral> tag, your it! 13:57:11 <avdg> nope, I don't want to play that game 13:57:48 <dihedral> my phones connection is better than that :-P 13:58:09 <avdg> my 56k connection is more stable :p 13:59:31 <avdg> ok, seems I don't get my 56k connection this month 14:00:14 <avdg> enough bandwidth 14:07:45 *** lasershock [lasershock@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:26 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE2B7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:30 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:12:24 <dihedral> congratulations avdg, you were in this channel for more than 15 mins 14:12:25 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:27 <dihedral> oh 14:12:46 *** lasershock [lasershock@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:07 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:13:47 <avdg> maybe is my disconnect related to the network problems @openttd 14:14:18 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:19 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:43 *** avdg [~avdg@94-227-100-192.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:15:29 * avdg gives up 14:19:08 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:22:10 *** davis [~b@p5B28AF74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:59 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-40-64.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:16 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 14:25:02 *** tokai [~tokai@port-92-195-110-191.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:25:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:25:13 <dihedral> avdg> maybe is my disconnect related to the network problems @openttd <- could be yes 14:31:19 *** lasershock [lasershock@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:37 <dihedral> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=906480#p906480 <- oh dear lord ^^ 14:38:04 *** lasershock [lasershock@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 14:43:12 <Rubidium> I don't see a lordmwa or lord aro there 14:48:55 <ccfreak2k> lordaac 14:53:09 <dihedral> i was kinda shocked to find unique_id to have disappear from the ClientInfo 14:56:10 <dihedral> Rubidium, reagarding the network spec - could it be an idea to add a keyboard shortcut to 'private chat to server'? 14:56:38 <dihedral> something along the lines of ctrl+shift+return 15:18:15 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<Carci> I thought Spanish was the primary language in Spain? 18:02:34 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:00 <Ammler> Carci: that statement might be similar to "German is primary language in Swiss" 18:03:43 <Ammler> which is at least here a lie, if you ask the French part of Swiss :-) 18:04:41 <Carci> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language - informative. :O 18:05:21 <Carci> Sounds like it might be somewhat like French/English in Canada -- only Catalan is slightly more limited in where it's spoken widely within Spain, compared to where French is spoken in Canada. 18:07:25 <Ammler> hmm, thought there is only one state in canada using French 18:08:41 <Carci> That's still wider than Catalan is in Spain. :P 18:08:49 <Carci> I think... 18:09:09 <Carci> Numbers say about 9 million Catalan speakers in Spain, compared to about 48 million Spanish speakers. 18:09:25 <Carci> If wikipedia is accurate at all :p 18:09:33 <Ammler> 20% 18:09:59 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@ip-86-49-60-58.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:11:01 <GT> well, I don't really mind, but it might get messy, when every langauge and variant is added 18:11:10 <andythenorth_> I work with a catalan speaker 18:11:16 <andythenorth_> 1 of about 30 people 18:11:23 <andythenorth_> is that a statistical sample? :P 18:11:25 <Carci> Is there an Esperanto version of the wiki? :o 18:11:26 <Belugas> does it get messy when you want to choose the language of OpenTTD? 18:12:49 <GT> no, but there I dont have to check info in different languages, which will happen, articles will start to deviate in different languages 18:13:55 <GT> OTOH, it might help some users, not everybody speaks English 18:14:05 <Rubidium> GT: there's no point in going against the wish to create an incorrectly out-of-date translation of wiki pages 18:14:18 <Carci> Heh. As long as the English pages are up to date and fine... 18:14:25 <Carci> Then there's no harm there... 18:14:28 *** Fixed [~Fixed@91.202.128.79] has joined #openttd 18:14:36 <Carci> And only benefit in at least having SOME form of pages in another language. 18:14:37 <Carci> Right? 18:19:42 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:37 <Rubidium> for every one you "deny" there'll be like two others wanting to translate 18:22:37 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.232.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:59 *** planetmaker [~pm@vs185047.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 18:26:31 <Fixed> hello, what to do if i have over 100 autos that are too old but no updates are available, can i rebuy new some automatical way? 18:26:40 <Belugas> i would have loved to find OpenTTD wiki's in french, way back then 18:26:42 <planetmaker> hello 18:26:59 <Chris_Booth> hi planetmaker 18:27:16 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-148-11.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:39 <avdg> funny is that there is no dutch version of the wiki 18:28:51 <avdg> or at least nothing I've seen so far 18:29:13 <Rubidium> oi planetmaker 18:29:59 <planetmaker> surprisingly nice and smooth train travel :-) 18:32:24 <planetmaker> how nice... suggesting a re-write of the PF... 18:33:37 <Xaroth> avdg: luckily most dutch people know sufficient english. 18:33:55 <avdg> true 18:34:37 <avdg> except maybe the youngest players 18:34:53 <Xaroth> they should spend more time learning english anyhow 18:34:59 <Xaroth> good place to start, reading an english wiki. 18:35:11 <avdg> hehe 18:35:21 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-148-11.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:32 <Xaroth> and while they are at it, some healthy respect for other languages goes a long way in online games :) 18:36:59 * Xaroth gets reaaaally pissed off at ignorant dutch kids who refuse to take the effort to talk english in an english community/game 18:37:13 <davis> knokken! ;D 18:37:17 <Belugas> hi hi planetmaker :) 18:37:40 * avdg reminds the "pls pls pls" voice of some childs 18:39:24 <Belugas> or the wide opened chick peek 18:39:27 <Belugas> peek? 18:39:30 <Belugas> mmh... 18:39:40 <Xaroth> beak :P 18:40:42 <Belugas> right.. 18:42:05 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 18:47:50 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe83de00-38.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 18:51:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:23 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 19:04:36 *** Knall [~weechat@178-191-34-125.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:04:46 <Knall> hi 19:05:39 <Belugas> hi Knall 19:05:58 <planetmaker> ho 19:14:13 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:14:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20895 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Use an enum to identify the rows of buttons in the industryview. 19:20:14 *** Carci [~illyume@129.123.187.34] has quit [Quit: brb] 19:23:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20896 /trunk/src/ (industry.h industry_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Split recompution of productionrates for non-smooth economy to separate function. 19:30:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-95-93.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:35:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20897 /trunk/src/ (cheat_gui.cpp industry_gui.cpp): -Codechange: Store the result of IsProductionAlterable() in a member variable of IndustryViewWindow. 19:45:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20898 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Change: When entering a production rate, round to nearest possible rate instead towards zero. 19:49:41 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-44-102.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:58:55 *** Knall [~weechat@178-191-34-125.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 19:59:22 *** LaSeandre [~Sean@5e020f34.bb.sky.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:01:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20899 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Switch order of if-tests in IndustryViewWindow::OnClick(). 20:03:08 <Belugas> let's go frosch123 let's go! Dunno where you're heading, but i'm sure it will be cool 20:03:17 <Rubidium> I know where he's heading 20:03:47 <frosch123> and it's not cool? :p 20:03:51 <Belugas> heading to bed in a few moments :) 20:03:52 <Rubidium> to bed and beyond! :) Possibly after the next commit(s) though 20:04:04 <Belugas> hehehe 20:04:19 <frosch123> your fault, did not notice the clock 20:04:39 <frosch123> anyway, tomorrow starts with a meeting, so ... 20:05:31 <Belugas> meeting bleeding 20:05:42 <frosch123> Belugas: you missed albert on saturday :) 20:06:00 <Belugas> quite i did 20:06:10 <frosch123> like 30 commits in row or so :) 20:06:24 <Belugas> oh..no., that i saw 20:06:30 <Belugas> but... after the fact :) 20:06:34 <Belugas> yeah, i was impressed 20:06:43 <Belugas> although the description was so boring.. 20:07:03 <Rubidium> boring's good (for easter eggs) 20:08:14 <Belugas> saturday, i was doing some home improving 20:08:15 <Belugas> again 20:08:27 <Belugas> andso for the next month 20:08:39 <frosch123> yeah, like "-Codechange: Convert foo into method." ... "-Codechange: Convert bar into method." ... "-Codechange: Port to java." 20:08:39 *** b_jonas [~x@BC24C4DD.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:10:05 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20900 /trunk/src/ (industry.h industry_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: Move ProductionLevels enum to industry.h 20:10:11 <Belugas> yeah, that part :) 20:10:33 <Belugas> these parts, in fact... 20:12:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20901 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): -Fix/Change: When using non-smooth or newgrf-economy changing production rates does not work (anymore), so allow changing the production multiplier instead. 20:12:44 * frosch123 awaits Eddi|zuHause's diff 20:13:15 * Rubidium awaits whoever was going to make a patch in a sec yesterday 20:13:26 <Rubidium> +'s diff 20:17:48 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:20:06 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:20:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r20902 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: 20:20:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#4032]: Make IsProductionAlterable() work for most NewGRF industries. 20:20:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: The NewGRF either has to use properties 12/13, or it needs to set property 0B to 'primary industry'. 20:20:23 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: So it will not work for bank-like industries which use pure production-callback production. 20:21:53 <Belugas> haaaaa 20:22:05 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 20:23:09 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:12 <andythenorth_> :D 20:23:22 <andythenorth_> fixes a few FIRS complaints :) 20:24:21 <Terkhen> hello 20:24:52 <frosch123> let's hope they do not turn into OTTD complaints, that individual production rates are no longer alterable :p 20:27:11 * andythenorth_ can't test due to conflicts with alberth's patch :( 20:27:22 <andythenorth_> I guess that's what hg revert is for :) 20:27:48 <planetmaker> andythenorth_: you only have one openttd copy? ;-) 20:28:14 <frosch123> it conflicts with alberth's patch? 20:28:27 <frosch123> surprises me actually :) 20:28:31 <andythenorth_> apparently 20:30:17 <frosch123> ah, i inserted some code above some code he removed 20:30:49 <frosch123> so, no real conflict, just automatic merging fails 20:31:18 <frosch123> try applying the diff after the update 20:31:22 <frosch123> might work better 20:34:01 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has joined #openttd 20:40:14 *** Fixed [~Fixed@91.202.128.79] has left #openttd [] 20:41:12 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has joined #openttd 20:45:54 <andythenorth_> this beer is not cold :o 20:49:15 *** Chillosophy [~fu@82-170-139-109.ip.telfort.nl] has quit [] 20:53:00 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:06 *** welshdragon [~dragon@millsie.net] has joined #openttd 21:02:53 <Belugas> going home and going to sleep 21:02:56 <Belugas> night all 21:03:02 <Rubidium> nighty night Belugas 21:03:29 <Belugas> you too wide awaken Rubidium :) 21:03:48 <Rubidium> ENOPARSE 21:12:00 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 21:33:17 *** TruePikachu [~chris@cpe-67-49-42-88.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 21:37:11 *** last_evolution [~last_evol@ip-86-49-60-58.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:40 <TruePikachu> I designed an ultimate station; I will be back to share it when I'm back from school :) 21:40:14 <frosch123> eh, what? 21:40:24 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-216.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:40:48 <frosch123> playing ottd under the bedspread whole night? :p 21:41:40 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-159-62.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:42:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-175-145.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 21:44:29 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF82B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:12 <Terkhen> good night 21:46:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A5BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:47:05 <Rubidium> Terkhen: that's a good idea; good night y'all 21:47:20 * frosch123 joins the trend 21:47:26 <frosch123> night 21:47:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ff402.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:36 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has left #openttd [] 21:55:50 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has joined #openttd 21:55:54 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has left #openttd [] 21:56:53 *** GT [~GT@rt-scb-9f41.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:51 <TrueBrain> I refuse to be a follower 21:57:53 <TrueBrain> but I have to get sleep 21:57:57 <TrueBrain> what to do 21:57:59 <TrueBrain> what to do ... 21:59:32 <Ammler> hmm, tv? 21:59:50 <Ammler> usually it needs areound 10mins tv and it sleeps 22:00:19 <Ammler> specially if it is a channel with ads 22:00:56 *** thvdburgt [~thvdburgt@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:49 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-175-145.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 22:09:36 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:10:58 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-89-176-209-74.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:37 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:51 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:21:34 <GhostlyDeath> Who dictates money, the client or server? 22:21:39 *** davis [~b@p5B28AF74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:21:50 <GhostlyDeath> Would the client know if the server gave it unlimited amounts of cash? 22:25:10 <SmatZ> server can't simply give a client money 22:25:17 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:38 <SmatZ> the amount of money is stored in the savegame that is downloaded when client connects 22:25:56 <SmatZ> different amount of money on different clients => desync 22:34:07 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC553B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 22:34:08 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.29] has joined #openttd 22:34:28 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has joined #openttd 22:43:33 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:39 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has joined #openttd 22:44:15 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:01:17 *** guru3_ [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has joined #openttd 23:03:08 *** fanioz [~fanioz@180.214.233.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:16 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:08:07 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.57.193] has joined #openttd 23:10:51 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has joined #openttd 23:11:29 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4db1a8b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: gn8] 23:15:49 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:13 <TruePikachu> Hmmm...how quickly do you think a 24 tile long train will fill with goods from a factory being supplied with 6 tile long steel trains, 12 tile long grain trains, and 18 tile long livestock trains? 23:17:36 <TruePikachu> The factory station I designed uses those specifications 23:18:06 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-44-102.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:22:23 <TruePikachu> It is quite a monster station... 23:24:22 <TruePikachu> Will feed off of an L_R mainline, both ways, feeds into a 2->4 load balancer, to waypoints, then to Progman's presignal structures (the logic improvers), to the platforms; each platform type has a unified exit, which feeds into a 4->2 balancer, which can go either way on the mainline. 23:25:27 <TruePikachu> With minimum turn length of 3, dimensions are 30x33 23:26:11 <TruePikachu> That is with 2 6-tile platforms, 2 12-tile, 2 18-tile, and 4 24-tile 23:26:22 * TruePikachu is diagramming it up into GIMP 23:28:38 <TruePikachu> Flipping the orientation of one of the balancers might be able to allow all platforms to be the same size; this junction almost takes a minimum of space right now (minimum will reduce each platform length by 2 tiles) 23:29:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73A11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:44 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 23:30:03 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B73A11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:30:29 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e07cb77.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:29 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55928dd9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:37:48 *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-87-102-44-102.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37:54 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-44-102.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:38:18 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 23:43:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-95-93.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:43:55 <TruePikachu> Hmmm...any way to get KDE's current display ID? 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