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00:03:10 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@94-21-77-179.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 00:03:15 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@94-21-77-179.pool.digikabel.hu] has left #openttd [] 00:04:26 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 00:04:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling Dante123 is approaching the dark side of hacking... the one where you desire quick results for little effort, and then destroy more things than you create 00:09:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DBAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:24 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:01 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 00:24:17 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.6.51] has joined #openttd 00:24:33 <SmatZ> SpComb: what would be better name? 00:28:54 <__ln__> would replacing each trailing period and questionmark with "lol" be a nice idea? 00:29:23 <SmatZ> __ln__: you can try that in finnish translation :P 00:32:14 <__ln__> "Vehicle 1 is getting old and needs replacing lol", "Citizens celebrate: First train arrives at Sometown lol" 00:32:20 <SmatZ> lol 00:33:02 <SmatZ> Saving game failed lololol 00:33:38 <SmatZ> lol is so early-2000's 00:33:50 <__ln__> but clearly you see the potential of this 00:33:55 <SmatZ> :) 00:34:02 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:20 <PolymorphZ> sálálá 00:37:57 <Wolf01> 'night lol 00:38:05 <__ln__> night lolf01 00:38:16 <Wolf01> lolf :D 00:38:20 <SmatZ> good night Wolf01 00:38:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host142-58-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:38:22 <SmatZ> :D 00:40:41 <SpComb> SmatZ: it's just kind of self-conflicting since all periods are trailing 00:41:00 <SmatZ> oh right :) 00:43:30 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-164-194.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:57 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:55:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 01:02:46 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77A38.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:07:20 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 01:08:14 *** robotboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:11:56 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:18:23 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 01:26:18 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-171-2.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [] 01:26:44 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 01:31:00 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:59:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B759C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:59:29 <Eddi|zuHause> that was weird... 02:01:14 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has joined #openttd 02:07:02 <supermop> yes? 02:28:34 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:28:40 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [] 02:31:03 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 02:31:58 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC44C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 02:59:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yes. it was really weird. 03:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 03:00:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B759C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01:52 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:48 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has joined #openttd 03:04:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77310.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:22:35 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:24:44 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:24:44 *** juliano [~juliano@200-148-50-95.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:54 *** Strid [~Strid@c-fe85e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25:11 *** Strid [~Strid@c-fe85e555.013-46-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 04:28:20 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.6.51] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:31 <supermop> what was the wierd thing, eddi? 05:11:17 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2c93:409e:af37:39de] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:38:55 *** bryjen [~bryjen@75.81.201.131] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:42:21 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77310.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B771FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:19:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6BFA7.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:02 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 06:30:06 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:34:20 <planetmaker> good morning 07:15:13 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 07:15:25 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 07:26:13 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:28:35 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e06da26.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:46:23 *** norbert791 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 07:55:18 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 08:15:15 *** zachanim1 [~zach@87-104-139-87-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:17:07 <dihedral> "failure of WT3 to properly validate some strings..." <- is it not easier to fix WT3 instead? 08:17:47 <dihedral> and good morning :-) 08:23:11 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC44C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:13 <peter1138> hello 08:34:17 <peter1138> guess what i'm playing 08:36:19 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 08:39:52 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 08:44:15 <Terkhen> good morning 08:50:12 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 08:51:24 <Terkhen> 84 strings to validate? this is a new record :) 08:51:36 <Terkhen> the change is simple anyways 09:00:31 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:44 *** George [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 09:12:01 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm108.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:16:32 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:02 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:27:28 <norbert791> Guess we have two candidates for userID removaql at tt-forums 09:27:36 <norbert791> ankotech53 and tina88 09:28:26 <norbert791> Eggs, ham, pickels and SPAM 09:28:56 *** norbert791 is now known as norbert79 09:49:59 <dihedral> <peter1138> guess what i'm playing <- what? :-) 09:50:25 <peter1138> work, now :( 09:50:33 <dihedral> :-( 09:50:39 <dihedral> what were you playing then? 09:50:42 <peter1138> minecraft, heh 09:51:26 <dihedral> i've not played anything in a long time 09:52:53 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has joined #openttd 09:54:25 *** afk [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has joined #openttd 10:01:13 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.28.100.113] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:03:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:14 <norbert79> I got addicted to SWAT 4 recently... Guess I drop Hidden and Dangerous 2 from my regular gameplay list... 10:18:30 <dihedral> i loved playing Gothic I and II :-) 10:18:41 <dihedral> but that is some time back now too 10:18:53 <dihedral> have not touched ET for a long time either 10:19:06 <dihedral> and probably will not touch it any time soon too 10:19:37 <norbert79> I prefer more like games, which focus on realistic circumstances 10:20:03 <norbert79> thanks of this I have started revieweing real army material on all weapons listed in the game :) 10:24:09 <dihedral> have a look at flightgear or xplane ^^ 10:25:05 <dihedral> considering how badly organized they are, i am amazed they actually ever got this far ^^ 10:26:05 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 10:41:35 <PolymorphZ> hey-ho 10:51:38 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:56:03 *** fjb is now known as Guest1335 10:56:04 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE7EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:23 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 11:00:37 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:23 *** Guest1335 [~frank@p5DDFE48B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:23 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 11:18:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host142-58-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:18:39 <Wolf01> hello 11:20:17 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24:05 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:29:49 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:30:50 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d821e80.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:29 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 12:13:02 <norbert79> dihedral: When I was last playing flightgear it was back in 2005, but it almost amazed me how good the simulation was, though I missed the realistic crash rendering. I wanted to simulate some rel-life crashes. I don't if that part is still unchanged or not, but I might give FG a try again 12:14:16 <norbert79> Pity, that X-Plane is commercial only, no free version available 12:14:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:21 <peter1138> there's a demo 12:16:29 <peter1138> fg's still not hot on crashes, heh 12:16:29 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-171-2.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 12:16:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:23:32 <norbert79> peter1138: I prefer freely available open source stuff ;-) Aw, still no crashes in FG... Any possibility on creating incident scenarios? 12:24:03 <norbert79> peter1138: the Su-27 Simulation from SSI used to have those 12:24:33 <norbert79> Flanker 2.0 12:28:54 <norbert79> what am I saying, even Flanker 1 could simulate incidents :) 12:37:32 <norbert79> Hah, found the Flanker 2.5 and 2.51 updates... Nice... I thought I have lost those for ever 12:37:35 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has joined #openttd 12:42:02 <peter1138> :) 12:45:02 <dihedral> fg is memory hungry 12:45:22 <dihedral> it eats like 2.5 gig when it's running on my workstation 12:46:30 <dihedral> they did some awesome cloud stuff - however it lowered my frame rate from 85+ to 34+/- 12:46:38 <dihedral> which really sucks 12:47:41 <norbert79> ook. I think I stick to Flanker 2.5 then :) 12:49:10 <dihedral> who is flanker from? 12:49:40 <norbert79> SSI 12:49:48 <norbert79> not existing anymore 12:50:31 <norbert79> Yet I am a proud owner of both Flanker 1.0 and 2.0 original CD jewel case copies 12:50:55 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-226-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:51:09 <__ln__> Flanker stored sprite resources as thousands of separate .bmp files. 12:51:19 <norbert79> Flanker 1.0 used to need DOS, but it was the most awesome simulation I have ever played during my DOS times... It even topped TFX back then, but EF2000 was just too much for my machine 12:52:07 <norbert79> Yet EF2000 still rocks... Just played it using Dosbox recently 12:52:09 <dihedral> i always wanted to have a look at the xplane demo 12:52:41 * __ln__ owns both X-Plane 8 and 9 12:53:23 <dihedral> __ln__, how is it? 12:53:26 <norbert79> __ln__: Nice... I am struggling between IL-2 1946 and Lock-On... But I think gathering IL2 will be easier through GOG.com 12:57:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9128:3e84:dc71:df4] has joined #openttd 12:57:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:58:17 <__ln__> dihedral: it's alright, but lacking some features such as force feedback. 12:58:55 <dihedral> yuck - force feedback is ucky :-P 12:59:40 <norbert79> IL-2 is 7 $ at GOG.com... aaaaaaaawwwww.... Awww... Want to... I want to have it... 12:59:47 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 12:59:58 <__ln__> that reminds me, OpenTTD is also lacking support for force feedback! 13:00:10 <planetmaker> do they meanwhile also implement things like stick shaker in other flight simulators? 13:00:36 <dihedral> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9vgJ1nwu_xA/TLBBaVrpF_I/AAAAAAAAEx4/4s7qqQ5iWRs/s1600/Thrustmaster+Launches+the+HOTAS+WARTHOG+Realistic+Joystick.jpg <- hehe 13:01:08 <dihedral> <planetmaker> do they meanwhile also implement things like stick shaker in other flight simulators? <- that would be the only think i could consider worthy for forcefeedback 13:01:20 <planetmaker> :-) 13:01:22 <dihedral> but it's implemented sound wise in FG :-) 13:01:41 <dihedral> that joystick is sick 13:01:45 <planetmaker> hehe 13:01:53 <dihedral> cost like 300 eur and more 13:02:17 <planetmaker> that's insane 13:02:20 <norbert79> Christ... Taht needs a seperate table 13:02:28 <norbert79> I am fine with a plane one :D 13:02:30 <norbert79> plain 13:03:10 <dihedral> lol - that little typo makes a huge difference in this discussion :-P 13:03:20 <norbert79> Indeed :D 13:03:41 <dihedral> http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/cyborg_fly_5_flight_stick.jpg <- that's mine :-) 13:03:51 <dihedral> even have a lovely config i wrote for FG 13:03:56 <norbert79> Nice 13:04:11 <norbert79> I have a joystick, which is being listed under "retro" products by now 13:04:23 <dihedral> yes, and only costs like 30 eur 13:04:35 <norbert79> thats a bit pricey for me 13:04:41 <dihedral> hmmpf 13:04:52 <norbert79> Hey, I have a wife and a kid feed :) 13:05:00 <norbert79> to feed 13:05:10 <dihedral> i scripted the config so that buttons 2 and 3 cycle through different modes for the cooly hat, and buttons 4 and 5 do the same for the scroll wheel :-P 13:06:12 <glx> seems to be a nice one 13:06:40 <dihedral> http://www.amazon.de/PC-Flight-Controller-System-Joystick/dp/B00030GSJY/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1292504775&sr=8-10 13:06:47 <dihedral> i would not mind having that one :P 13:07:03 <dihedral> but that then really is to pricey for me too :-P 13:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never had a use for these things 13:07:27 <dihedral> flight sims :-P 13:07:38 <Eddi|zuHause> exactly. 13:07:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i never had a use for flight sims 13:08:28 <dihedral> if the physics engine is good they can be fun 13:09:08 <norbert79> Indeed 13:09:12 <__ln__> http://mollekuehl.de/__oneclick_uploads/2010/02/lufthansa.jpg 13:09:19 <norbert79> lol 13:09:35 <SmatZ> mmm gcc 4.5.2, maybe it's time to start using 4.5 :) 13:10:32 <dihedral> 29$ for xplane 9 is not bad 13:10:41 <planetmaker> SmatZ: you certainly know: except bug fixes: any speed gain when compiling openttd? 13:10:48 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279292998.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 13:10:54 <planetmaker> compared between major gcc releases? 13:11:02 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279292998.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 13:11:17 <planetmaker> speed as in execution speed of resulting binary and compilation speed 13:11:29 <SmatZ> planetmaker: generally, the older GCC, the faster compilation 13:11:33 <planetmaker> and of course 'hello' :-) 13:11:38 <dihedral> :-P 13:11:56 <planetmaker> hm, the older the faster? 13:11:58 <SmatZ> there are some improvements in performance, but OpenTTD doesn't make much use of autovectorization... 13:12:45 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker :) 13:12:59 <SmatZ> planetmaker: at least speaking about GCC3 vs GCC4 :) 13:13:38 <planetmaker> well, I was just curious and assume(d correctly as it seems) you know it out of your hat ;-) 13:13:40 <planetmaker> thanks :-) 13:14:02 <SmatZ> well, "know" :) 13:14:11 <SmatZ> better verify my claims :D 13:14:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has joined #openttd 13:17:01 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 13:18:07 <planetmaker> dihedral: but I guess that "joystick" is also stale when you once sat in a real simulator ;-) 13:20:59 <dihedral> some people tend to go a bit too far for my taste : 13:21:05 <dihedral> http://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/simulatorcaters_450x375.jpg 13:21:06 <dihedral> http://media.photobucket.com/image/home%20simulator%20boeing/boeing722/London0001.jpg 13:21:10 <dihedral> http://members.cox.net/martin1jam/images/CP_Full_Oct03.jpeg 13:22:44 <norbert79> dihedral: And some take even further, and build a complete one: http://www.aviationnews.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/First-Boeing-747-8-Freighter-Takes-Shape.jpg 13:22:54 <norbert79> Weirdos... Building a plane... How silly 13:23:43 <__ln__> dihedral: X-Plane 9 comes on seven DVDs or something 13:23:53 <norbert79> Seven DVD??? 13:23:55 <norbert79> jesus 13:24:25 <dihedral> there was one guy who spend like 30k-50k us$ to get all the origianl cockpit pieces and set them up at home 13:24:30 <dihedral> and functional 13:24:46 <norbert79> dihedral: Yeah, it was an original Boeing 747 project, right? 13:24:54 <dihedral> norbert79, it's got a map of the entire* world 13:24:55 <norbert79> I think I remember the same one 13:25:06 <__ln__> It's not necessary to install everything if the ~60GB install size is too much. 13:25:07 <dihedral> *75 deg. north - 65 deg. south 13:25:38 <norbert79> __ln__: Well, WoW is also around at 31-35 Gig of install size :) 13:26:07 <norbert79> I wonder how detialed my town would be in X-Plane... 13:46:51 <PolymorphZ> hey-ho 13:47:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BFA7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:53:13 *** Hirundo_ [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:54:13 *** Ammller [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:54:31 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:54:44 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:55:11 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:13 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:27 *** SmatZ is now known as Guest1349 13:55:28 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:55:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 13:56:05 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:05 *** Hirundo_ is now known as Hirundo 13:56:15 *** ^ekipS^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:56:43 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:57:00 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:08 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:08 *** ^ekipS^ is now known as ^Spike^ 13:57:13 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:57:25 *** XeryusTC2 [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:57:30 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 13:57:40 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:45 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:46 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:48 *** Guest1349 [~SmatZ@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:51 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:55 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:55 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 13:58:11 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:58:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 13:58:43 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:59:10 <Belugas> hello 14:00:10 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF869F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:00:14 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:00:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 14:00:31 <SmatZ> planetmaker: actually, it seems I was wrong 14:00:44 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:00:45 <SmatZ> compiling OpenTTD in gcc 3.4.6 and 4.5.1 takes roughly the same time 14:01:18 <planetmaker> he :-) 14:02:17 <PolymorphZ> hey there 14:02:22 <PolymorphZ> whatsup? 14:03:19 <PolymorphZ> ;> 14:03:45 <PolymorphZ> i have 3.4.5 14:03:45 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: smatz * r21531 /trunk/src/viewport.cpp: -Fix: gcc 3.4 warning 14:04:13 <norbert79> SmatZ: Use 'time' for exact measurments 14:04:34 <norbert79> SmatZ: I am also curious how long does it take on a specific system two GCCs compared 14:07:21 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:07:39 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 14:08:07 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:08:14 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:46 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:50 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:08:52 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:52 *** |Terkhen| [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:52 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Write error: connection closed] 14:09:00 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:15 *** XeryusTC2 [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:23 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:26 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:29 <SmatZ_> "police tested the driver for alcohol, the test shown negative value" wtf, negative amount of alcohol in blood? he should drink something to get to zero level :) 14:09:32 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:50 *** Hirundo [~Hirundo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:10:15 <Wolf01> lol SmatZ_ 14:10:42 *** Ammler [~ammler@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:10:48 *** Ammler is now known as Ammller 14:11:51 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:12:07 *** SmatZ [~SmatZ@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:12:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o SmatZ] by ChanServ 14:12:38 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:12:54 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:22 *** Terkhen [~Terkhen@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:13:25 *** mode/#openttd [+o Terkhen] by ChanServ 14:13:54 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:13:54 <norbert79> SmatZ: Probably the device was faulty 14:14:04 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:14:10 <norbert79> SmatZ: As of course like every measuring device, that needs regular checking too :) 14:14:50 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:14:52 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 14:14:52 <SmatZ_> :) 14:15:23 *** avdg [~avdg@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:16:54 *** planetmaker [~planetmak@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:16:57 *** mode/#openttd [+o planetmaker] by ChanServ 14:17:26 *** tneo [~tneo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:19:23 *** KouDy [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:55 *** KouDy [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has joined #openttd 14:20:21 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 14:25:38 <Belugas> looks like that alcohol test had a bug... the guy was too intoxicated for the poor machine 14:26:46 <SmatZ_> hehe 14:26:52 *** KouDy [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:28 *** KouDy [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has joined #openttd 14:30:56 <ccfreak2k> Belugas, it's anticohol dontchaknow. 14:33:55 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has joined #openttd 14:34:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:24 <Belugas> i agrreee weeevv ya... HIC 14:40:02 *** KouDy [~KouDy@118.100.112.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:07 <norbert79> or the counter had a limit of 'char', and it caused having a negative number 14:43:14 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-22-216.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [] 14:45:56 <fjb> Not unlikely. The testing device is probably based on an 8bit micro-controller. 14:54:57 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:22 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:38 <norbert79> fjb, Belugas: This reminds me on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoJCV_4QZvY 15:03:04 <fjb> :) 15:04:36 *** afk [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has quit [Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!] 15:05:04 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 15:08:08 *** Ammler is now known as Ammller 15:08:31 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has joined #openttd 15:10:05 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 15:14:22 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 15:15:13 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 15:15:54 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:28 *** Doorslammer [770b07ce@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:28:47 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:30:28 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 15:32:54 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... qemu seems extremely slow today... 15:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> but it uses only like 30% cpu 15:35:54 <Eddi|zuHause> but instead kmail uses 100% cpu... that's crazy... 15:41:30 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:42:03 <dihedral> i assume you have more than 1 core :-P 15:44:01 <Eddi|zuHause> indeed, i had programs use 570% ;) 15:47:38 *** zachanima [~zach@87-104-139-87-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk] has joined #openttd 15:49:41 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 15:50:53 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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The only method I've found out soo far is to use "save as" and then in the file-system change the filename back to the original name. 20:06:13 <Zuu> I don't want to tell people that receive a document how many minutes I've spent on it. 20:06:39 <Dante123> copy-paste all content into a new doc and overwrite the old one ? 20:07:20 <Alberth> industrial size use of fertilizer probably does not come in bags of 5kg 20:07:20 <__ln__> Zuu: PDF? 20:07:31 <Zuu> Dante123: That is even worse than using "save as", as you might lose some style information. 20:07:37 <Alberth> plain text 20:07:38 <Zuu> __ln__: Not always suitable. 20:08:10 <Alberth> Zuu: not always suitable holds stronger for word docs 20:08:16 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:19 <Dante123> Alberth mm im doubting if barrels are a good graphic for Fertelizer :/ 20:08:39 <Alberth> you are talking about FIRS right? 20:08:41 *** Guest1389 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9128:3e84:dc71:df4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:43 <Zuu> I guess I've got to continue searching and eventually figure out how to disable it. :-) 20:09:03 <Alberth> I seem to remember a discussion about it in the thread. Did you search there? 20:09:12 <Dante123> fertelizer is in ECS 20:09:19 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 20:10:01 <Dante123> zuu in the properties of the doc 20:10:16 <Dante123> zuu than Details 20:10:31 <planetmaker> [21:05] <Dante123> does it make sense to have barrels grapics for "fertilizer" ? <-- in large quantities it's a bulk cargo. Like salt or grains 20:10:33 <Dante123> and than properties and personal info 20:10:59 <Zuu> Dante123: Thanks, will check it out tomorrow as I don't have 2010 at home. 20:11:08 <Dante123> but wouldn't it be in crates or more like container train stuff ? 20:11:29 <Dante123> Zuu you only need the doc at home ;) 20:11:39 <Alberth> I'd expect big bags of fertilizer. I doubt that ECS is responsible for the graphics though, vehicles define graphics for the cargo they carry 20:11:56 <planetmaker> Zuu: still exchange of PDF is IMHO the most prudent way to share documents 20:11:58 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:03 <planetmaker> And it's not like one cannot edit PDFs 20:12:06 <Dante123> its more for my own grapics i want to link and make for the fertelizer :P 20:12:36 <Dante123> i have already barrels sprite, but not sure if i should use it for fertelizer too 20:12:37 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-36-106.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:42 <planetmaker> nope 20:12:50 <Alberth> doesn't feel right imho 20:13:01 <planetmaker> well. you could. One can justify many things. But I've never seen fertilizer by the barrel 20:13:17 <planetmaker> Not sure how those liquid fertilizers work, though 20:13:24 <Dante123> same what i thought, but therefore dropped the ball here too :P 20:13:28 * Alberth ponders whether black powder counts as fertilizer 20:14:41 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:15:19 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 20:15:57 <Dante123> maybe steel barrels or Bigbags (1 cubic bags) are the right ones :/ 20:15:57 <planetmaker> But I guess those are for the people who buy a separate fertilizer for each plant ;-) 20:15:57 *** glx_ [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9128:3e84:dc71:df4] has joined #openttd 20:15:57 <planetmaker> 25kg or 50kg bags for the gardeners. Wagon loads for farm applications 20:15:57 <planetmaker> *bulk wagon loads 20:15:57 <Dante123> image for bulk fertelizer http://mibpaste.com/9okBrh 20:15:57 <planetmaker> at least that's how it works where I grew up 20:15:57 <Dante123> im not from a village :D 20:15:58 <planetmaker> Let's say: the farming background runs strong in my blood ;-) 20:16:04 <Dante123> hehehe 20:16:17 <Dante123> when can i make sprites in 3d btw ? :P 20:16:23 *** glx is now known as Guest1392 20:16:23 *** glx_ is now known as glx 20:16:33 <Dante123> or better question, what file format should they be xD 20:17:03 <glx> there's no 3D in openttd 20:17:04 <Alberth> it may also come in bulk, I can imagine 20:17:28 <Dante123> doesnt that 32 bit have 3D drawn sprites ? 20:17:32 <Alberth> Dante123: any file format you can transform to nice flat 2.5D pics is good 20:18:10 <planetmaker> Dante123: not only 32bit. Also a lot of OpenGFX stuff has a 3D background, especially some industries. 20:18:11 <Dante123> well i work with CAD apps as daytime job, and they have that nice viewcube zo you always have the default camera points 20:18:18 <Alberth> some people do use 3D renderers yes 20:19:10 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-253-13.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:19:36 <Alberth> you could have a look in the 32bit repository 20:19:57 <Dante123> if you use applications like Revit, the renderings are a peace of cacke 20:20:01 <Dante123> *cake 20:20:22 <Dante123> mm well, it would be woth to take a look at one day i guess :P 20:20:30 <Dante123> but firs my other grf's 20:20:34 <Dante123> *first 20:20:51 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:21:21 *** Guest1392 [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:9128:3e84:dc71:df4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-177-4.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:24:03 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:24:11 *** zachanima [~zach@87-104-139-87-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:33 <Dante123> hehe have some old music back =D 20:24:50 <Dante123> the first albums from Metallica :) 20:26:00 <Xaroth> there's not much that can beat the black album.. 20:26:53 <Dante123> have to agree on that oen 20:27:02 <Dante123> and the one called ride the lightning 20:27:29 <Dante123> and ofc the once in symphony is also just awsome 20:27:38 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:27:47 <Dante123> that last one is a bit down compared to the other ones :P 20:29:34 <Dante123> any1 fam. with ECS from out if the head ? 20:29:51 <Dante123> whats the input cargo for the ECS brick works ? 20:30:51 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a wiki for that. 20:31:25 <Dante123> yea but i was wondering of any1 could tell it from the head 20:31:26 <Alberth> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSVectors 20:31:32 <Dante123> saves time to search the wiki url xD 20:31:54 <Belugas> [15:24] <Dante123> the first albums from Metallica :) <- Ride the Lightning was the real first one, in my opinion. 20:31:55 <Alberth> I have it bookmarked :) 20:32:13 <Dante123> mm image is outdated ? 20:32:23 <planetmaker> alternatively start an ecs game with a nightly version. Alberth added a feature which replaces any manual in that respect ;-) 20:32:23 <Dante123> or does ecs make bricks only from coal 20:32:24 <Dante123> xD 20:32:36 <Alberth> it has been years since I played ECS 20:32:36 <Belugas> and the best as well 20:33:10 <Dante123> pff almosy done recoding my nfo with that new cargo label system now :D 20:34:07 <Alberth> good night all 20:35:25 <Dante123> c ya 20:35:50 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:36:11 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 20:36:17 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:37:19 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:46 <planetmaker> [21:33] <Dante123> pff almosy done recoding my nfo with that new cargo label system now :D <-- what is new about the cargo labels? 20:39:07 <Dante123> for me its new :p 20:39:15 <Dante123> at first u used the cargo ID's 20:39:26 <Dante123> utill people told me to use the cargo labels 20:39:49 <Dante123> and this way i also have to recode the whole lot to make them work with more than 1 label 20:41:28 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:18 <Dante123> but now everything seems like working again =) 20:44:14 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba84b9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387ACD0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:52:30 <gelignite> good evening. how to distinguish trams from buses/trucks? at the moment i distinguish trucks from buses by AICargo.GetCargoLabel which returns either "PASS" or "MAIL" (for my case). but trams (for passengers) and buses would both return "PASS" and are from the same vehicle type AIVehicle.VT_ROAD :-( 20:56:17 <Eddi|zuHause> gelignite: i'd imagine it would be similar to distinguishing track types for rail. but i don't know the AI API 20:56:30 <glx> gelignite: Engine.GetRoadType 20:56:53 <glx> http://noai.openttd.org/api/trunk/classAIEngine.html#854b4ba98994b1789ab1d1626b037250 20:58:23 <Yexo> using cargo labels is not the best way of doing it, the best way would be to first determine the cargoid of passengers and then use AIEngine.CanRefitCargo(engine, cargoid) 21:00:05 *** Svish_ [~Svish@host-85-30-144-34.sydskane.nu] has joined #openttd 21:00:40 *** Dante123 [503d5321@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:06:51 *** Svish__ [~Svish@host-85-30-144-34.sydskane.nu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:24 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@95-26-177-4.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 21:08:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-177-4.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:26 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 21:13:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:03 <Zuu> The AI library SuperLib have a function called GetPAXCargo() that will determine and return the cargo id of passengers. 21:14:25 <gelignite> glx, that does the trick i was looking for. thanks. 21:17:06 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-226-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:07 <Zuu> Oh, and GetPaxCargo() is located in the Helper sublibrary. :-) 21:18:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:24:09 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:27:33 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f452c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:42:51 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has joined #openttd 21:48:17 <andythenorth> hello 21:48:21 <andythenorth> and also good night 21:48:24 <andythenorth> :) 21:48:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:54:42 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:39 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:18 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 22:02:48 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 22:04:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B771FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:04:40 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05:10 *** ar3k [~ident@87.239.75.101] has joined #openttd 22:07:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AB2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:09:16 *** Rachel [~Rachel@178.110.145.77] has joined #openttd 22:09:20 <Rachel> Hi ttd 22:10:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B771FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:13 *** Rachel [~Rachel@178.110.145.77] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:04 *** Rachel [~Rachel@178.110.145.77] has joined #openttd 22:14:45 <Rachel> Is there any point letting a transport service run after the subsidy has run out? All my train lines only make about 2k a month without subsidy and it maps the map look messy. 22:15:04 *** Rachel [~Rachel@178.110.145.77] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:26 <ccfreak2k> As long as income isn't in the red, it doesn't matter. 22:20:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> rasco: try "full load" orders, it may improve your transported cargo amounts, and thus your income 22:22:27 <Lakie> frosch123: what was the verdict on that vbar7b? 22:24:45 <frosch123> i think "commit" 22:25:15 * Lakie didn't notice it in the nightly builds... 22:25:27 <Lakie> Though haven't check too far back 22:25:29 <frosch123> no, i did not yet :) 22:25:41 <Lakie> Ah 22:25:43 <Lakie> Okie 22:44:40 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@2a00:14f0:0:aaaa:230:48ff:fe32:4fd0] has quit [Server closed connection] 22:45:11 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@2a00:14f0:0:aaaa:230:48ff:fe32:4fd0] has joined #openttd 22:45:12 <frosch123> night 22:45:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f452c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:26 <Zuu> ccfreak2k: Wrong - in theory it could happen that the captial that will be earned from selling the trains might give better pay off in a new investment. 22:45:50 <Zuu> In practice player time is limited and you just don't want to bother. 22:46:11 <ccfreak2k> I think rondje would be the only bot that cared. 22:47:38 <Zuu> Good night 22:47:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47:46 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba84b9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:23 *** lasershock` [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 22:51:29 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 22:52:07 <__ln__> interracial aerobatics 4-some in canada: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh26jII0iJ8 22:53:13 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387ACD0.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: good nite] 22:54:42 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:07:22 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:11 *** E_mE [~jeramy@183.Red-80-39-95.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:27 <E_mE> hi, i've having problems with getting the 32Bit to work 23:09:08 <E_mE> i've downloaded: http://coblitz.codeen.org/jupix.info/openttd/gfxdev-nightlies/files/32bit-gfx-nightly-megapack-2010-12-16.tar and put it in my ~/Documents/OpenTTD/content_download/data/ 23:09:17 <E_mE> but it does seem to appear in my newgrf list 23:09:34 <E_mE> im using OSX and r21525 23:10:48 <E_mE> ive also defined: [misc] .... blitter = "32bpp-optimized" 23:11:50 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:12:45 <E_mE> I even put the file into OpenTTD/Content/Resource/data/ 23:13:40 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF869F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15:54 <glx> doesn't this pack require extrazoom patch ? 23:18:11 <E_mE> ive got extra zoom installed 23:18:16 <E_mE> that one appears in the list 23:18:47 <E_mE> 32bbp Extra NewGRF nightly r39 23:18:52 <E_mE> thats what i've activated 23:20:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6B94C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:20:32 <E_mE> actually i think it maybe working 23:20:46 <E_mE> just looks little odd hehe 23:25:17 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:25:18 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fetzig.org] has joined #openttd 23:25:23 <CIA-10> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21533 /trunk/src/pathfinder/opf/opf_ship.cpp: -Codechange: replace some magic numbers with less magic constants 23:27:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6BFA7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:51 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has quit [Quit: Good bye] 23:38:20 <Terkhen> good night 23:40:47 <Yexo> E_mE: the extra zoom patch is a seperate binary that you need to install, the "32bppe extra newgrrf" is a newgrf that is meant for that patch openttd version. You won't get extra zoom in the normal openttd no matter what newgrf/graphics you download 23:41:23 <E_mE> Yexo: is there an OSX binary available? 23:41:33 <Yexo> no idea 23:42:56 <Yexo> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/32bpp-ez/LATEST/ <- apparently not, you might be able to find an osx binary burried in the forum though 23:43:09 <Yexo> or you could try to build it yourself 23:44:18 <Ammler> or ask the dev to update the patch, so it would trigger a new nightly build, afaik nightlies do again build osx 23:51:17 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@borealis.jontysewell.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:51:22 *** jonty-comp [~jonty@borealis.jontysewell.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:25 <E_mE> Yexo: i tried to compile while back with little success