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00:03:35 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:08:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:21:38 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:29:13 <SmatZ> running out of disk space has really weird consequences 00:29:35 <SmatZ> applications crashing or misbehaving without any error messages 00:29:43 <SmatZ> warning: ignoring return value of âsize_t fread(void*, size_t, size_t, FILE*)â, declared with attribute warn_unused_result 00:29:49 <SmatZ> that warning is there for a reason! :P 00:30:05 <SmatZ> actually, (f)write is more appropriate there :) 00:35:50 *** HalfBit [~hb@201-42-209-115.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:41:52 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@i.am.vadtec.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:07 *** Vadtec- [~Vadtec@i.am.vadtec.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:07 *** Vadtec- is now known as Vadtec 00:49:06 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has 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trouble in some cases 10:06:47 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008b0f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:24 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21558 /trunk/src/screenshot.cpp: -Codechange: add the graphics set and its version to the screenshot metadata as well 10:18:30 <fjb> Quak frosch123 10:20:22 <frosch123> moin :) 10:22:42 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.155.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:28:10 <planetmaker> quak :-) 10:28:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:12 <fjb> Moin planetmaker 10:56:43 *** fjb is now known as Guest1889 10:56:45 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE2C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:09 *** greywall [~user@99-100-178-103.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 10:59:59 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:00:25 <greywall> how do people with servers in multiplayer restrict industries from going down in production? 11:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause> greywall: why would they do that? 11:01:23 <greywall> theres this USA map that always has a high number of production of oil on a rig, and it's always around 2 million barrels, when i try to do internet multiplayer, my industries keep dying 11:01:45 <greywall> i want to fixate or limit how much an industry can loose in production 11:02:16 <V453000> just service it? 11:02:42 <greywall> if people dont visit the map i dont want the industries to disappear because noone is servicing it 11:03:22 <greywall> also, how do you set the limit of the year in which the game stops 11:03:23 <Eddi|zuHause> greywall: use the "minimum players" setting to pause the server when nobody is there 11:03:38 <SmatZ> greywall: game runs indefinitely 11:03:57 <SmatZ> I wouldn't wonder if there were a newgrf that forbids industry closing 11:04:07 <greywall> ive seen multiplayer servers were they have a range 11:04:13 *** Guest1889 [~frank@p5DDFFA76.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:13 <V453000> manual industries might 11:04:14 <greywall> 1980-2150 or something 11:04:31 <greywall> instead of the usual 19XX-2050 11:04:52 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a setting to automatically restart a server after a certain year, i believe 11:04:55 <V453000> but I am preetty sure it would also prevent them from growing 11:05:01 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: ok then :) 11:05:07 <V453000> also, just prospect more industries when they die?? 11:05:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and sometimes servers are specifically modified for these things 11:06:47 <SmatZ> restart_game_year right 11:08:58 <greywall> it'd be nice for designers to be able to select building styles from a graphics list, when designing towns 11:09:20 <greywall> instead of just clicking expand 11:09:31 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-226-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:10:17 *** Mugendai [~infinity@c-75-71-202-125.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:13:16 <greywall> sheesh... making a server is hard 11:13:27 <greywall> need to get a ton of stuff right 11:16:24 *** alvin_rxg [~alvin@188-195-217-86-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 11:24:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:51:17 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has joined #openttd 11:57:54 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 12:27:05 *** Markavian` [~Markavian@188.158-26-211.dynamic.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:27:55 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:31:13 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 12:33:39 <Alberth> hello 12:33:56 *** Markavian [~Markavian@188.158-26-211.dynamic.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59:53 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:07:37 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 13:08:17 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has quit [Quit: Quit] 13:11:26 *** glx 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terkhen * r21560 /trunk/src/ (vehicle_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.h): -Codechange: Declare DrawVehicleImage in its header. 13:50:44 <DanMacK> Hello all 13:51:15 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:52:14 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-31-4-212.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:52:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21561 /trunk/src/ (vehicle.cpp vehicle_cmd.cpp vehicle_func.h): -Change: Allow to specify the number of vehicles to refit in the refit vehicle command. 13:53:25 * Rubidium waves to the Canadians 13:53:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21562 /trunk/src/vehicle.cpp: -Change: Add articulated parts of vehicles in a refit selection to that selection. 13:54:39 <planetmaker> hello DanMacK 13:55:11 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21563 /trunk/src/ (vehicle_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.h): -Codechange: Add function to get the width of a vehicle. 13:55:11 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:55:30 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 13:56:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21564 /trunk/src/roadveh_gui.cpp: -Fix: Avoid drawing road vehicles outside of their given space. 13:56:31 * DanMacK wants to get back to his TTD game... screw work 13:56:52 <LadyHawk> http://ladyhawk.flawlesscorruption.net/screens/DepotBlock.PNG << fastest so far, and brilliant for the traffic 13:57:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21565 /trunk/src/ (roadveh_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.cpp vehicle_gui.h): -Codechange: Add pixel skip to DrawRoadVehImage(). 13:57:24 <DanMacK> Impressive, I must say 13:57:36 * DanMacK plays with servicing off personally... 13:58:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21566 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Add: Draw current vehicle at the refit window. 13:58:38 <Chris_Booth> LadyHawk: you could speed it up a bit by using block signals on the merge rather than path signals 13:59:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21567 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt vehicle_gui.cpp): -Feature: Allow to refit only the selected part of a train consist. 13:59:32 <Chris_Booth> but then I am talking about a very small % in high stress situations which you line doesn't seem to be under 14:00:18 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.58.173] has joined #openttd 14:00:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21568 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Add: Show the selected consist part at the refit window. 14:01:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host84-237-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 14:01:08 <Ammler> well, "depot balancing" doesn't work at all with pbs, it needs 2way eol, afaik 14:01:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21569 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Add: Don't close the refit window after refitting only a consist part. 14:01:18 <Wolf01> hello 14:01:27 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 14:01:35 <DanMacK> My depots are mainly eye candy and building/refittign spots 14:01:36 <Wolf01> yeah, good one Terkhen :D 14:01:47 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has quit [Quit: 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Snakes on a Train 14:03:57 *** Heather [pirate@24-119-91-46.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 14:04:04 <greywall> ewww 14:04:37 <Heather> I have a likely noobish question for you folks 14:05:00 <Ammler> you are lucky, Chris_Booth is here ;-) 14:05:11 <DanMacK> go for it, we were all noobs at one point :P 14:05:24 <Chris_Booth> hi Ammler 14:05:29 <Ammler> Sali :-) 14:05:47 <Belugas> good day all 14:06:03 <DanMacK> Hey Belugas 14:06:06 <Ammler> Hello dadi 14:06:17 <greywall> lol 14:06:19 <Heather> I want a hub station for my passenger trains. I want trains from stations at various towns to drop off passengers at a hub station and pick up any passengers destined for their town and drop them off at the town 14:06:25 <greywall> Belugas i was just reading your wiki page 14:06:32 <Chris_Booth> I am a huge noob I was trying to build a YAPF trap device which used to take me a few seconds 14:06:38 <Heather> however... when a train hits my hub it drops off all the passengers... then picks up the very same passengers 14:06:40 <Chris_Booth> now I can't even get mine to work 14:06:43 <greywall> Belugas where are you emplyed that they need a delphi coder :O 14:07:11 <Belugas> well... 14:07:21 <Rubidium> Delphi's Oracle? :) 14:07:25 <Belugas> the location has nothing to do with delphi or not 14:07:37 <Belugas> I'm in Montreal, if you really want to know 14:07:45 <Chris_Booth> Heather: If you want a 'realistic' hub station you will need to use cargodist 14:07:46 <greywall> not where where, where as in what type of coding for what... why... 14:07:47 <Belugas> and we've been using delphi since 1998 14:07:54 <Belugas> ho.. 14:07:58 <Heather> Chris_Booth, how do I do that? 14:08:00 <Belugas> in Store managements 14:08:11 <Alberth> hello 14:08:28 <greywall> so.. like inventory, checkout machines at checkout booths? 14:08:33 <Chris_Booth> Heather: it is a branch of openttd. you will need to download a new set of binaries to use it 14:08:46 <Heather> *sighs* 14:08:54 <Chris_Booth> it can be found on #openttdcoop,.dev if I recall 14:08:59 <Belugas> I'm in the Point Of Sales department (i MA the department) while we have head office, purchases, accounting, inventory tracking, etc etc 14:09:14 <greywall> got you 14:09:15 <Chris_Booth> all you need to do it place the new binary files where your current openttd install is 14:09:26 <Belugas> the company is called multidev 14:09:29 <Chris_Booth> and you can have a hub styled network 14:09:34 <Belugas> the product is Chaindrive 14:09:43 <greywall> so is openttd using c or c++ i haven't looked at the code yet, but i'm a c++ developer 14:09:55 <Chris_Booth> greywall: it uses both 14:10:14 <Chris_Booth> but all new stuff is C++ IIRC 14:10:15 <Alberth> C is a subset of C++, so both by definition :) 14:10:16 <Heather> I'm a C++ dev as well 14:10:41 <Heather> I dev homebrew for the nintendo DS 14:10:44 <greywall> Alberth i know, but i was wondering about if oop was replaced with struct and the like :) 14:11:13 <Alberth> where useful, yes 14:11:19 <greywall> ofcourse 14:11:26 <Alberth> but there is little difference between struct and class :) 14:11:44 <greywall> ughmmm, not the way i saw it 14:11:55 <Heather> a struct is a class, just very simplified 14:12:17 <Alberth> greywall: the main difference is that the default is public rather than private 14:12:19 <greywall> simplified yes, little difference... NO 14:12:35 <Alberth> you can do inheritance, methods, the whole oo 14:12:57 <greywall> i forgot... but we had a discussion about it and pointed out some downsides and differences 14:13:03 <greywall> though they were marginal cases 14:20:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host84-237-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:41:31 *** greywall [~user@99-100-178-103.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:46 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 14:56:59 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 14:57:08 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice4n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 15:02:32 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.58.173] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:02:36 *** norbert791 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:38 *** norbert791 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 15:09:02 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 15:17:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A674.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:09 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-157-169.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 15:20:36 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.157.74] has joined #openttd 15:20:55 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:11 *** norbert791 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 15:21:16 *** norbert791 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice1n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 15:24:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21571 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 4 dirs): -Codechange: Having a break after a return is no good. 15:29:15 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 15:29:17 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:30:13 *** Sacro [~ben@150.237.48.99] has joined #openttd 15:40:57 *** klop [~eric@187.35.217.190] has joined #openttd 15:40:58 *** klop [~eric@187.35.217.190] has left #openttd [] 15:48:55 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21572 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/wnd_quickdraw.mm: -Codechange: [OSX] One palette is enough, we cannot use two colour depths at once 15:53:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21573 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (fullscreen.mm wnd_quartz.mm wnd_quickdraw.mm): -Codechange: [OSX] Unify the naming of variables among different screen drivers a bit 15:56:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21574 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (cocoa_v.h fullscreen.mm wnd_quartz.mm wnd_quickdraw.mm): -Codechange: [OSX] Move the variable declaration of the screen drivers to the generic class, deduplicating code 15:58:09 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21575 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (cocoa_v.h cocoa_v.mm wnd_quartz.mm wnd_quickdraw.mm): -Codechange: [OSX] Use the same class for the window delegate routines in windowed screen drivers 16:01:03 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21576 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (cocoa_v.h cocoa_v.mm wnd_quartz.mm): -Codechange: [OSX] Deduplicate code by moving the handling of the view for windowed screen drivers to a common class 16:01:42 <dihedral> how embarrasing must it be if you notice your job description mentions 'ubunt' and you payed 350 EUR for it :-D 16:02:53 <dihedral> planetmaker, do you use xcode? 16:03:10 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21577 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (cocoa_v.h cocoa_v.mm wnd_quartz.mm wnd_quickdraw.mm): -Codechange: [OSX] Deduplicate code by moving the handling of the window class for screen drivers to a common class 16:05:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: planetmaker * r21578 /trunk/src/video/cocoa/ (6 files): -Fix [FS#2585]: [OSX] A double mouse cursor was shown under certain circumstances (based on patch by matheweis) 16:06:20 <planetmaker> yes, I do use xcode. But only as editor 16:06:33 <planetmaker> I don't use an xcode project 16:07:19 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 16:15:12 <planetmaker> oh, we have now the new refit window :-) 16:15:32 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:16:18 <Terkhen> it is still lacking a select all button, but I think the solution proposed at the thread is good enough 16:16:54 <Terkhen> let's see what the supporters say :) 16:18:22 <planetmaker> It doesn't need it as clicking next to it works 16:25:50 <Terkhen> if the train is too big, there is no free space left 16:26:13 <Terkhen> you can always Ctrl+click the first vehicle, but that's a bit hidden 16:26:17 <avdg> pm: you've got good news again :( 16:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause> could enforce a few "free" pixels before the engine? 16:26:47 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21579 /trunk/src/airport_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Remove _build_air_button_proc and its functions to a switch statement, record the last started action. 16:27:09 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos "free": what about refitting free wagon chains without engine? 16:28:03 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21580 /trunk/src/airport_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Replace callback via pointer by a switch statement. 16:28:49 <Terkhen> enforcing free pixels also takes space as would the button, and the button is clearer 16:29:16 <Terkhen> how would that work? wagon chains don't have a vehicle window 16:29:41 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:06 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21581 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Fix indenting code style of a few multi-line statements. 16:32:03 <avdg> pm: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8529206/openttd/osxError.txt 16:36:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21582 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Simplify BuildRailClick_AutoSignals(). 16:37:53 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 16:41:00 <avdg> @above: compiled at r21578 16:41:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host37-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:45:03 <fjb> Give the wagon chains a vehicle window. :) 16:47:56 <Terkhen> which means treating them as vehicles for everything else 16:49:38 <planetmaker> [17:26] <avdg> pm: you've got good news again :( <-- somehow smily and statement don't match ;-) 16:53:48 <planetmaker> seems to be a busy day... so far 36 revisions ;-) 16:53:50 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:54:10 <avdg> yeah 16:54:19 <avdg> except here again 16:55:03 <planetmaker> ? 16:55:18 <avdg> I just can't get my job done here 16:55:36 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has joined #openttd 16:59:23 <planetmaker> :-P 16:59:31 <planetmaker> what're you doing? 17:00:19 <Belugas> a job :) 17:00:30 <planetmaker> :-P 17:00:41 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has quit [Quit: Going!] 17:01:42 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:01:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:03 <avdg> try to code in all home madness :p 17:03:04 <supermop> would a 'one way tramway' be possible via newgrf, or would it have to wait for roadtypes? 17:03:22 <planetmaker> it's not possible right now 17:03:41 <avdg> hmm, is there work done to make it possible? 17:03:55 <planetmaker> not that I know 17:04:05 *** Doorslammer [770b03f0@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:04:23 <supermop> hmm 17:06:37 <supermop> i am going to sound like the consumate naive suggestion maker here 17:06:39 <supermop> but 17:10:50 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:18 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF89E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:27 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@134.174.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 17:12:45 <supermop> we already have one way roads 17:12:53 * ABCRic found a bug 17:13:05 <ABCRic> anyone got bugspray? 17:13:33 <ABCRic> aircraft > refit > click aircraft sprite » crash 17:13:46 <Terkhen> meh, I solved that already 17:14:01 <Terkhen> in which revision? 17:14:12 <ABCRic> r21570 17:14:39 <planetmaker> supermop: roads are not trams. That simple ;-) 17:14:45 <ABCRic> which was your last commit, terkhen 17:14:52 <Terkhen> thanks, let's see why is that bug back 17:16:20 <supermop> would probably be better to implement via a roadtype anyway, as currently you can two-way tram over one-way road 17:18:26 <planetmaker> yes. That's the only viable solution really... 17:19:21 <supermop> i wonder what advantages a one way tramway would have... 17:19:38 <supermop> other than visually only having one track 17:19:55 * DanMacK doesn't think there would really be a benefit 17:20:04 <planetmaker> you could do the equivalent of cart races with trams. ;-) 17:20:11 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host40-15-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:20:11 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest1923 17:20:11 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 17:20:51 <supermop> planetmaker: great idea! 17:20:54 <ABCRic> supermop: the same as with one-way roads? 17:21:18 <Terkhen> unless you can somehow use both directions of the road/tram... not much 17:22:10 <Alberth> let's first do overtaking of normal RVs at one-way roads :) 17:23:34 <dihedral> sent out an application for a job today, 30 mins later i got a phone call, the lady invited me for tomorrow :-D 17:23:43 <Terkhen> :) 17:24:15 <dihedral> that's my fastest (yet) :-D 17:24:26 <dihedral> though it does sound a little desperate :-P 17:24:45 <Alberth> or very quiet at the HR department :) 17:25:46 *** Guest1923 [~wolf01@host37-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:14 <supermop> two-lane one way roads would be nice 17:27:03 <planetmaker> well... *someone* will have to start that :-P 17:27:05 <supermop> i was thinking the oneway tram would have only one track, rather than two tracks running in the same direction 17:27:14 <supermop> but there is no real benefit to that 17:27:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B779A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:45 <Alberth> yeah, no collisions with trucks :p 17:27:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B779A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:28:02 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/developers/peter1138/roadtypes.hg/ <-- this attempt is about two years old 17:28:52 <planetmaker> hm, doesn't even seem to exist. 17:29:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: terkhen * r21583 /trunk/src/vehicle_gui.cpp: -Fix (r21566): The new scrollbar was not ignored correctly for ships and aircrafts. 17:29:36 <Terkhen> ABCRic: thanks for the report, you saved today's nightly :) 17:29:46 <ABCRic> Terkhen: :D 17:30:16 * ABCRic wanders off to compile 17:32:41 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-31-4-212.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:33:01 <supermop> what about type types? 17:33:17 <Terkhen> metatypes? 17:33:20 <supermop> hehe 17:33:22 <supermop> yep 17:33:26 <supermop> being silly, 17:33:51 <supermop> but maybe it would be neat if everthing could be arbitrarily expanded via newgrf 17:33:57 <supermop> ie bridge types 17:34:11 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:21 <Terkhen> there are bridge NewGRFs already 17:34:29 <supermop> yes, 17:34:51 <supermop> but you can only replace the existing bridges i think? 17:35:28 <supermop> ca one specify whether a new bridge is compatible with various track or road types? 17:36:02 <planetmaker> it's task of the railtypes to provide proper cover for bridges 17:36:30 <planetmaker> the bridge can make it easy by not providing to intrusive tiles which need over-painging 17:36:36 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e049c79.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:36:36 <supermop> well 17:36:51 <supermop> lets say i want to make an old wooden tressle 17:37:04 <supermop> and make it only available to rail 17:37:13 <supermop> or 17:39:16 <DanMacK> You may need to have different graphics types for each, not sure if you can differentiate 17:39:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:40:31 <supermop> i want to remake the tto monorail bridge, and have it only available to monorail and transrapid 17:42:44 <ABCRic> bridge made of NuTracks's subway == odd 17:43:25 <planetmaker> :-D 17:46:57 <ABCRic> specially when over water 17:48:32 <supermop> old london bridge 17:48:35 <supermop> pre fire 17:49:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:53 <planetmaker> ABCRic: there are bridges with houses on them, no worry ;-) 17:49:54 <ABCRic> wait, the subway doesn't have covered diagonal tracks :( 17:50:11 <planetmaker> :-) Make a feature request 17:50:34 <ABCRic> planetmaker: but I doubt there are bridges with terrain over them xD 17:50:54 <planetmaker> there are... 17:51:21 <planetmaker> over highways. So that deer and other animals can savely cross them 17:51:48 <ABCRic> oh. I must do more research, then 17:51:59 <ABCRic> but not over water! :P 17:52:05 <Rubidium> you could consider those tunnels though :) 17:53:23 <planetmaker> :-) Those between Utrecht and Apeldoorn(?) look to me like bridges, though 17:54:11 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:54:42 <Rubidium> IIRC that one has two "tubes", although I agree the one between Apeldoorn and Hengelo looks like a bridge 17:55:05 <Rubidium> then the one from Apeldoorn to Arnhem definitely has "tubes" 17:55:49 <planetmaker> :-) 17:56:18 <planetmaker> See you laters... sports :-) 17:59:26 <DanMacK> have fun :D 18:04:25 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21584 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Replace the _rail_build_button array by a switch. 18:05:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21585 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move the simple click functions into the switch. 18:06:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21586 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Record the last started user action, and use that in the callback. 18:07:07 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.196.196] has joined #openttd 18:07:14 *** enr1x [~kiike@95.21.230.162] has joined #openttd 18:07:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21587 /trunk/src/rail_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Move simple callback functions into the switch. 18:11:05 *** Vreemdeling [Vreemdelin@d131135.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:11:31 <Alberth> hello stranger 18:12:53 *** Vreemdeling [Vreemdelin@d131135.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: just bit the dust!] 18:17:35 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d822b83.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:17:59 <Belugas> planetmaker? sports? frosch123 has contaminated yu! 18:18:46 <ABCRic> oh noes! 18:19:25 <ABCRic> <insert preposterous consequence here> 18:19:56 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:28:41 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:35:43 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 18:40:52 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 18:41:56 *** Tennel [~Tennel@dslb-094-223-193-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:43:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba827c.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:46:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21588 /trunk/src/lang/ (11 files): (log message trimmed) 18:46:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:46:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 56 changes by VoyagerOne 18:46:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: czech - 62 changes by SmatZ 18:46:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: english_US - 57 changes by Rubidium 18:46:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: finnish - 57 changes by USephiroth, jpx_ 18:46:17 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 57 changes by glx 18:52:07 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.58.173] has joined #openttd 18:56:41 *** Svish [~Svish@ti0009a380-dhcp1260.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 18:57:33 <Svish> Does it matter how much of an industry your station covers? 18:58:08 <Svish> should I try to cover the whole thing or does the station get just as much if I only cover one square? 18:59:58 <Rubidium> respectively: not really, nope, not always 19:00:29 <Rubidium> particular tiles of an industry accept (sometimes) different types of cargo 19:01:37 <Rubidium> and sometimes different "amounts", e.g. 1/8. However, you need 8/8 before the station starts accepting the cargo, but it doesn't matter for the accepted ammount whether it's 8/8 or 16/8 19:02:27 <Rubidium> likewise houses generally accept n/8 passengers and/or n/8 mail, so you need to cover multiple houses before the station starts accepting it 19:02:42 <Rubidium> the specific amounts can be found using the tile query tool 19:04:34 <Zuu_> If you happen to use FIRS, then the entire industries accept 8/8 of the accepted cargoes to make life easier for players. 19:10:23 *** Doorslammer [770b03f0@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:13:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD57.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15:30 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 19:17:58 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6AC42.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:26 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:20:27 * DanMacK thinks Svish got more info than he bargained for :P 19:20:34 *** ctibor [~quassel@77.48.228.43] has joined #openttd 19:21:30 <Svish> O.o 19:21:42 <ABCRic> knowledge is power 19:21:53 <Svish> not if you don't have a clue what the knowledge you have means :p 19:22:52 <DanMacK> short answer... when you're building the station, check what it accepts :P 19:23:53 <fonsinchen> Svish, you were asking how you should build your station if you want to maximise supply, not acceptance, right? 19:27:06 <ABCRic> so, when building near an industry, check what it supplies 19:27:21 <ABCRic> when building near houses, cover as much as you can 19:27:32 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:55 <fonsinchen> the point is: Does it helpt to cover more tiles of an industry? I'm just looking that up in the code. 19:28:12 <DanMacK> Hey Andy 19:29:14 <andythenorth> evenings 19:30:02 * andythenorth wonders why FIRS screws with vehicle running costs :o 19:30:05 <andythenorth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=51936 19:30:13 <andythenorth> say it ain't so :P 19:33:48 <Hirundo> I guess the combination of ex's city builder, luukland's city builder and FIRS is bound to go kaboom in some way :P 19:34:36 <andythenorth> oh 19:34:38 <fonsinchen> I guess it doesn't matter. FindStationsAroundTiles doesn't care how much overlap there is between the catchment areas, everything else only depends on cargo ratings. 19:34:39 <andythenorth> yes 19:35:03 <andythenorth> planetmaker: yet *more* FIRS checks? :| 19:35:06 <andythenorth> ^^ 19:35:13 <andythenorth> it's like herding cats 19:35:42 <Alberth> he is off skiing atm 19:35:47 <Svish> fonsinchen, correct 19:36:10 *** ogre [~ogre@82.224.40.212] has joined #openttd 19:36:21 <Svish> fonsinchen, that's exactly what I am wondering. if it helps to cover more tiles. 19:36:29 <fonsinchen> it doesn't 19:36:48 <andythenorth> skiing planets? 19:37:51 <Terkhen> one of them 19:38:03 <andythenorth> Terkhen: we should try an icon for 'all' 19:38:07 <andythenorth> on partial refit 19:38:15 <andythenorth> but my head is fuzzy with ill 19:38:34 <Terkhen> :) 19:38:49 <Terkhen> get well soon 19:39:20 <Terkhen> that icon might be tricky 19:39:35 <Terkhen> I guess it can be train related, if road vehicles need it in the future a new one can be used 19:39:38 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@134.174.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:39:50 <Alberth> andythenorth: he calls it 'sports' 19:40:25 <andythenorth> how odd 19:40:32 <andythenorth> I have been cycling in snow 19:40:36 <andythenorth> I call it unsporting 19:49:31 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 19:50:06 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC40DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:50:21 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC27AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:29 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:14 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 19:56:26 <DanMacK> grr... StupiD IE 19:59:01 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 19:59:01 *** George is now known as Guest1939 19:59:01 *** George|2 is now known as George 20:02:17 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.61.71] has joined #openttd 20:04:13 *** Guest1939 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:37 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.58.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:08:17 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 20:08:51 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@190.180.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 20:18:37 *** DanMacK_ [~cebf4595@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 20:18:58 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 20:19:13 *** DanMacK_ is now known as DanMacK 20:21:35 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 20:22:44 *** Tennel [~Tennel@dslb-094-223-193-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:37:18 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-3-81.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:39:04 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:46:41 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF89E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:47:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:56:12 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 21:02:11 *** marlin [~marlin@62.140.137.149] has joined #openttd 21:02:14 <marlin> Hi there 21:02:21 <Alberth> hi 21:02:25 <marlin> How can you disable Ipv6 at the server config? 21:04:54 <Rubidium> bind to a non-IPv6-ish address, e.g. 0.0.0.0 instead of :: ? 21:04:56 *** lugo [lugo@195.3.138.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:05:26 <Rubidium> though what's the problem with IPv6? 21:06:32 <marlin> The server had no ipv6 addresses 21:06:37 <marlin> o yea 21:06:40 <Rubidium> that's no problem 21:07:10 <marlin> And i added server_bind_ip but it didn't work 21:07:52 <Rubidium> server_bind_ip is an ancient setting; it's something like server_bind_addresses IIRC 21:09:06 <marlin> k 21:09:26 *** marlin is now known as Marlinc 21:13:32 <Marlinc> Thank you 21:13:34 <Marlinc> I will try that 21:18:56 <Ammler> Marlinc: bind ip addresses has its own config section now 21:19:20 <Marlinc> Oke 21:24:06 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 21:26:17 *** lugo [lugo@195.3.138.104] has joined #openttd 21:27:23 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-31-4-212.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 21:30:44 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-226-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:34:10 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:39:09 <andythenorth> FISH towboats will have 1, 2 or 4 barges 21:39:19 <andythenorth> so 3 vehicles, or 1 vehicle with capacity refit? 21:40:26 <planetmaker> hello 21:40:51 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AD57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:41 <andythenorth> hi planetmaker 21:42:35 <DanMacK> 1 veh w/Capacity refit 21:43:23 *** Fenris [~fenris@p5DC6AC42.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:43:24 <planetmaker> ^ 21:43:38 <planetmaker> bloated purchase lists suck 21:43:57 <andythenorth> yup 21:44:00 <andythenorth> my thinking too 21:45:30 <planetmaker> andythenorth: what was it easlier wrt FIRS consistency checks? 21:45:50 <andythenorth> planetmaker: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=51936 21:47:49 <planetmaker> is it urgent, andythenorth ? Otherwise I'll make a ticket and assign it to me 21:47:58 <andythenorth> not urgent 21:48:11 <andythenorth> yet another conflicting grf :| 21:48:21 <andythenorth> do they ever end? :D 21:48:25 *** nicfer1 [~nicfer@190.50.61.71] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:42 <planetmaker> they'll never end. I could write you one in 10 minutes ;-) 21:50:25 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21589 /trunk/src/ (gui.h misc_gui.cpp toolbar_gui.cpp): -Codechange: Move PlaceLandBlockInfo() to the right file, introduce a ShowLandInfo() function. 21:50:36 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21590 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: All click handling functions of the main toolbar return CBF_NONE. 21:52:58 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 21:54:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21591 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Align case functions. 21:55:23 <z-MaTRiX> isit coolnow? 21:58:37 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:00:33 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF89E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:00:42 <Alberth> it is cool enough outside 22:00:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: alberth * r21592 /trunk/src/toolbar_gui.cpp: -Codechange: Return unique values for placing a sign and land-info querying, store the callback information locally, and use it instead of the global _place_proc. 22:02:10 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 22:05:09 <Eddi|zuHause> feature request: when starting a game [or pressing 'apply changes' in the newgrf window], show a red error box if a GRF gets disabled by action B 22:05:43 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:06:17 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:13 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:14:13 *** trebuchet [~Trebuchet@69.51.104.87] has joined #openttd 22:23:03 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF89E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:43 *** Svish [~Svish@ti0009a380-dhcp1260.bb.online.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:27:48 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-157-169.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:28:14 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-51.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 22:37:50 *** ogre [~ogre@82.224.40.212] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:22 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:08 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@client-82-31-4-212.midd.adsl.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 22:46:21 <Zuu_> NekoMaster ".... If not Im sure its not very hard to make a grf that can do this." <-- why not do it then?! :-] 22:46:31 <Zuu_> :-p * 22:47:14 <Rubidium> Zuu_: exactly my thoughts 22:47:27 <Terkhen> because his list of started and then forgotten projects is too long already? 22:48:01 * Rubidium hopes his "realistic accel isn't realistic" project gets forgotten quickly 22:48:50 <supermop> ? 22:49:07 <Terkhen> :) 22:49:26 <Zuu_> supermop: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=51916 22:49:32 <supermop> what were you doing with acceleration, Rubidium 22:49:35 <supermop> ah ok 22:50:56 <Rubidium> I've done nothing with it lately 22:55:55 <Marlinc> Who knows openttd-python? 22:56:16 <Rubidium> RoR? 22:56:20 <planetmaker> its author presumably 22:57:14 <Rubidium> yorick? 22:57:26 <Xaroth> openttd-python? 22:57:46 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 22:57:57 <Marlinc> this python project will provide a library to the OpenTTD game 22:58:01 <Xaroth> ah 22:58:11 <Xaroth> it's mimicing a client 22:58:19 <Marlinc> Yes 22:58:28 <Xaroth> meh, not needed with the admin port :P 22:58:35 <Marlinc> :o? 22:58:59 <Marlinc> Is that easier then using that library? 22:59:04 <Xaroth> duh :P 22:59:23 <Xaroth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=51854 22:59:37 <Rubidium> that library is utterly broken anyways 22:59:44 <Xaroth> seeing you're not mimicing a client, you don't have to constantly update the netcode anyhow 23:00:22 <Marlinc> Oke 23:00:28 <Marlinc> What data can you get? 23:00:37 <Marlinc> Using it 23:00:38 <Xaroth> http://pub.dihedral.de/openttd/admin_network.txt 23:00:43 <Xaroth> clients, companies 23:00:45 <Xaroth> chat 23:01:00 <Marlinc> Nice 23:01:46 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-182.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:02:18 * Rubidium actually wonders whether that library can actually join a 1.0.5 server 23:02:27 <Xaroth> mine? or openttd-python? 23:02:34 <Rubidium> openttd-python 23:02:49 <Rubidium> libottdadmin definitely can't :) 23:02:56 <Xaroth> it can't? 23:03:06 <Xaroth> well, not 'join' 23:03:08 <Xaroth> admin, it can :P 23:03:09 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d822b83.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03:20 <Rubidium> how? 23:03:36 <Xaroth> wasn't the admin port in in 1.0.5? 23:03:41 <Rubidium> no 23:03:45 <Xaroth> ah 23:03:47 <Xaroth> then no, it can't. 23:03:55 <Xaroth> there are some flaws in that lib 23:04:05 <Xaroth> like structz.pack , if that's the pack i think it is 23:04:10 <Xaroth> it's not specified a LE/BE flag. 23:04:37 <Marlinc> Lol 23:04:46 *** greywall [~user@99-100-178-103.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:04:53 <Marlinc> You library can't connect to 1.0.5? 23:04:56 <Marlinc> Your* 23:05:04 <Xaroth> the admin port was added -after- 1.0.5, apparently 23:05:21 <Xaroth> so it can -try- to connect, but with no admin port.. not much to connect to now is there :) 23:05:29 <Rubidium> it was added to trunk before 1.0.5, but that doesn't mean it ends up in 1.0.5 23:05:38 <Marlinc> k 23:05:51 <Marlinc> There is a admin_port entry in my config 23:05:57 <greywall> is there a list of all the available newgrfs? 23:05:58 <Marlinc> Added by OpenTTD 23:06:00 <Rubidium> 1.0.5 is from the 1.0 maintenance branch, which was branched off trunk in early 2009 23:06:19 <Rubidium> Marlinc: then you ran a nightly (or equivalent) 23:06:21 <Zuu_> greywall: no 23:06:28 <greywall> y not? 23:06:35 <Marlinc> k 23:06:42 <Zuu_> Even if you call Internet a list, it will not contain all off-line NewGRFs. 23:06:44 <Rubidium> greywall: what do you consider "available"? 23:07:00 <Xaroth> greywall: www.google.com ? 23:07:03 <greywall> dont get nitpicky 23:07:22 <Xaroth> BaNaNaS has quite a few.. but surely not all 23:07:23 <greywall> i want to see if theres a way to stop industrie's production to not be decreased 23:07:52 <Zuu_> grfcrawler might still have some NewGRFs not on bananas. 23:07:54 * Rubidium "knows" of 1682 NewGRFs 23:08:45 <Zuu_> and then there is the grf development forum and possible some other websites apart from tt-forums and openttd banans-server that hosts NewGRFs. 23:09:42 <Rubidium> bananas only "knows" 455 NewGRFs 23:10:23 <Rubidium> grfcrawler only 270 23:11:00 <Rubidium> although grfcrawler doesn't always distinguish between versions, whereas bananas and my "secret" list does 23:12:10 <Rubidium> otherwise bananas knows 168 NewGRFs and the "secret" list knows ~750 NewGRFs 23:13:24 <dihedral> Xaroth, that txt file you linked to can also be found in the openttd trunk under docs/ ;-) 23:13:35 <Xaroth> dihedral: yes, your txt is in my browser history 23:13:39 <Xaroth> not the svn docs one :P 23:13:54 <dihedral> pffft ^^ 23:14:21 <dihedral> though originally i wanted to name a dev in those docs :-) 23:14:34 <dihedral> however it was turned into 'foo' ^^ 23:18:30 <Xaroth> Rubidium: how come the OpenTTD user on bitbucket is listed as 'Inofficial OpenTTD clone' ? 23:20:11 <Rubidium> cause it isn't an official repository (or clone thereof)? 23:20:20 <Xaroth> ah, right 23:20:23 <Xaroth> looked a bit off 23:20:26 <Xaroth> but makes sense 23:21:04 * Rubidium suspects it's Ammler 23:21:24 <Xaroth> hah 23:21:53 <Rubidium> in any case, that repository has 1.0 and trunk in a single repository, but we don't have that 23:23:24 <Ammler> it is clone of your repos :-) 23:24:47 <Ammler> (hourly sync) 23:25:51 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:26:37 <Xaroth> as the dutch say 23:26:41 <Xaroth> "Dat kan sneller!" :P 23:26:59 <Wolf01> 'night 23:27:02 <Xaroth> nn 23:27:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host40-15-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:27:22 <Marlinc> Xaroth, how can i download your library 23:27:32 <Marlinc> I don't have hg 23:27:36 <Xaroth> https://bitbucket.org/Xaroth/libottdadmin/overview 23:27:36 <Rubidium> Xaroth: as a wise Dutchman once said: 9 letters, 2 words 23:27:50 <Marlinc> Who is Dutch here? 23:27:57 <Xaroth> check the 'download' link there, Marlinc 23:29:01 <Xaroth> Rubidium: my crossword puzzle skills are a bit rusty, i do much better at sudoku :P 23:29:48 <dihedral> 9 rows, 9 columns, 9 blocks, 9 digits 23:29:52 <dihedral> fix! 23:30:30 <dihedral> i was faster writing a program to solve a multitude of sudoku's than my mother was at solving a single one. 23:30:40 <Xaroth> i would guess 'duurt lang' though 23:30:48 <Rubidium> :) 23:31:15 <dihedral> what on earth is my laptop doing in alaska? :-( 23:31:22 <Xaroth> vacation 23:31:36 <dihedral> pfft - it has not even started work yet :-D 23:31:43 <Xaroth> enjoying a white christmas, or something :P 23:32:03 <Rubidium> dihedral: Natty Narwals live around there? 23:32:18 <dihedral> bless you, what? 23:32:22 <dihedral> natty narwals 23:32:28 <Marlinc> Xaroth, how can i use the library 23:32:55 <dihedral> Xaroth, i was wondering if you were planing on adding docs to your project :-P 23:33:03 <Xaroth> dihedral: nah :P 23:33:08 <Xaroth> not yet 23:33:12 <dihedral> Rubidium, ah ^^ 23:33:18 <Marlinc> Ah... :p 23:33:18 <dihedral> i was actually considering 10.04 23:33:33 <Xaroth> Marlinc: check the features section 23:33:42 <Marlinc> So Xaroth jij bent Nederlands? 23:33:45 <dihedral> i prefer a LTS release 23:33:50 <Xaroth> yes, but we talk english in here :) 23:33:54 <Marlinc> Haha 23:33:55 <Marlinc> Oke;) 23:34:55 <dihedral> anyway - it's past my bedtime :-) 23:34:57 <dihedral> good night 23:35:00 <Xaroth> nn dih 23:35:04 <Marlinc> Byebye 23:35:22 <Marlinc> Xaroth, got an example? 23:35:31 <Xaroth> libottdadmin / src / libottdadmin / features.py 23:35:41 <Xaroth> has some base features you can inherit from 23:35:42 <Marlinc> Oke thanks 23:36:27 <Terkhen> good night 23:36:41 <Xaroth> libottdadmin / src / libottdadmin / adminconnection.py .. AdminConnection.globalFeatures is a registry for features, though you can add them through initFeatures() 23:39:28 <ABCRic> good night 23:39:35 <Xaroth> nn Terk 23:40:13 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@190.180.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #openttd [] 23:41:22 *** DanMacK [~cebf4595@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:41:49 <Marlinc> Xaroth, can i PM you? 23:41:56 <Xaroth> you can at least try :P 23:42:52 <greywall> i wish that trains would stop in front of path signals if there is a exit or combo signal ahead 23:43:04 <greywall> ^ i mean only if they are red 23:43:10 <Xaroth> use entry signals? 23:43:27 <greywall> i want more than 1 train on the tracks 23:43:52 <greywall> and entry presignal will only allow 1 train on the tracks 23:45:36 <greywall> path signals are excellent when there are a lot of trains going by on multiple tracks and the destination is not ALL filled up, but when it occasionally fills up, the trains skip the path signal and enter a track all the way up to a sexit or combo signal even if it is red... 23:45:50 <greywall> thats bad because it might block all the other paths other trains could take 23:46:36 <greywall> and this 1 train will continue to block all the paths if it cross them all until this 1 single track is free, meanwhile all the rest of the tracks might be free already 23:50:14 *** Zuu_ [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:57:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008b0f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:03 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has left #openttd [] 23:59:27 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]