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connection] 09:05:07 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-170-254-62.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:09:40 * andythenorth ponders getting to 2k FIRS commits 09:12:12 <Terkhen> :) 09:12:26 * Alberth thinks that the value of 'nice' decimal numbers is overrated 09:13:09 <Terkhen> then maybe you should aim for 2048 09:16:07 * Alberth ponders writing a program that computes the base to use for getting a nice number as soon as possible 09:16:41 <Terkhen> that way we could celebrate nice revision numbers more frequently :) 09:17:32 <Alberth> it is much easier to redefine the notion of 'nice' :) 09:17:47 <Alberth> it is ambiguous anyways :) 09:18:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B6FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:17 *** DDR_ [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 09:18:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc96e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:59 <Terkhen> revisions ending with at least three zeroes, revisions in the form of 2**x, revisions that are prime numbers, palindromic numbers... 09:23:47 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:23:56 *** DDR_ is now known as DDR 09:24:16 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-21-137-106-77.eidsiva.net] has joined #openttd 09:24:52 <andythenorth> year of birth 09:25:31 * andythenorth brings to you quite a lot more industry smoke 09:29:43 <Terkhen> nice :) 09:35:41 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-170-254-62.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:26 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3704.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:37:32 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-170-254-62.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:41:18 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@ip-21-137-106-77.eidsiva.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:48 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cc96e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04:01 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 10:05:37 *** 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with no luck so far 11:11:11 <Alberth> what dependencies? 11:11:45 <wojteks86> project dependencies - the order in which the things are compiled 11:11:58 <Alberth> duh 11:12:40 <Alberth> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <-- please be more elaborate, read this to understand why 11:12:46 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-187.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 11:14:10 <wojteks86> thanks, thats helpful 11:18:51 <wojteks86> I know you are experienced coder, but I have only started with it on Saturday... 11:20:20 <Terkhen> wojteks86: my guess is that you are compiling the wrong project, check the MSVC wiki for the correct sln file 11:21:16 <Alberth> Basically you are asking us to understand how your compiler reaches the conclusion "cannot find file X" without giving any other information. We need more details to deduce that. 11:21:26 <Terkhen> yes 11:21:50 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:10 <wojteks86> ok so I had VC++ 2010, and I was playing around with sln for ottd100 11:23:10 <wojteks86> I have downgraded to VC++ 2008 and now Im doing stuff in the project openttd_vs90.sln 11:23:25 <wojteks86> hope that makes sense 11:24:55 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:58 <Terkhen> if you are using that sln file with VC++ 2008, table/strings.h should be generated 11:26:00 <Alberth> random question: did you download and install openttd-useful.zip? did you set up VC (some of it seems to be in the 2005 wiki page) 11:26:39 <wojteks86> yes, I have set up includes and libs, I have disabled DirectX because Im not using it 11:27:43 <Alberth> so it is something else 11:28:41 <Alberth> euhm, why does "compiling" then say to add stuff to the directx headers? 11:29:40 <wojteks86> quote: Alternative: If you are willing to compile without support for MIDI music you will not be needing the DirectX SDK 11:29:55 <wojteks86> is that the same thing or Ive done something wrong? 11:30:32 <Alberth> looks that way, but you know how much I know about Win* machines :p 11:30:43 <wojteks86> more than me :D 11:31:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:31:30 <Alberth> I never tried to even install VC :D 11:31:52 <wojteks86> thats ok, I feel I shouldnt touch it either 11:32:09 <Alberth> I don't even know what questions to ask you to get a clue 11:33:55 <wojteks86> well, I must admit I thought the config will be easy - wiki describes it very clearly, now the errors appear regardless of what I try 11:34:57 <Alberth> the error is just the last stroke that kills the compilation 11:35:02 <Terkhen> I had no problems after following the 2008 wiki step by step 11:35:15 <Terkhen> you should recheck all steps, maybe you are missing something 11:35:34 <wojteks86> ok, let me check it... for the Xth time :) 11:35:51 <Alberth> find out why strgen is not build and executed 11:36:34 <wojteks86> will try 11:36:51 <Alberth> is it never tried, or does it say I don't need it, or is it run but gives errors? 11:37:20 <Alberth> and there are probably a dozen more ways to get it to fail 11:37:56 <Alberth> the system probably gives a reason somewhere 11:41:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41:37 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:43:46 <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=889071#p889071 perhaps? 11:57:54 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has joined #openttd 12:01:49 <wojteks86> new error: error PRJ0002 : Error result 1 returned from 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' 12:02:15 <wojteks86> @Terkhen, do you know this error? 12:02:46 <Terkhen> no, but google will know about that error ID 12:03:04 <wojteks86> I have just found something, so maybe this will help 12:04:41 *** jpx_ [jpx_@a91-156-226-198.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:07:51 <Alberth> cmd.exe is just the shell that runs a command. If it fails, it ususally means that the command it ran, has failed. Find out what command it executed. (strgen?) 12:09:19 <Alberth> (which sort of points towards PATH problems) 12:09:35 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 12:10:27 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:21:57 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 12:38:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@host86-170-254-62.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:39:15 *** Dante123 [503d5321@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:40:16 <Dante123> is there any1 the know where to find a picture of "center-island diesel pumps for diesel train engines" ? 12:41:00 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.197.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51:08 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-75-247.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:00:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-157-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:01:03 <Wolf01> hello 13:02:57 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 13:03:02 <wojteks86> hi 13:07:43 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:a0fb:9f68:b2c0:ad32] has joined #openttd 13:07:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:09:49 <Dante123> any1 here that is a bit familiar with my DWE set ? the pipelines 13:11:52 <Dante123> how would you rate this as underpass for the pipelines ? http://i55.tinypic.com/sb10jq.png 13:14:41 <Wolf01> you should add more details, usually pipelines are composed of various pieces, not one big bent piece 13:15:31 <Dante123> yea 13:15:41 <Dante123> also that black lines need more work 13:15:56 <Dante123> but i mean in the big lines it doesnt look weird now ? 13:16:34 <Wolf01> no, it looks nice 13:17:26 <Dante123> its when i draw i look at 400% size :P 13:17:53 <Wolf01> eheh, pixart, I know it 13:17:54 <Dante123> so sometimes it fail in seeing the big picture :P 13:18:14 <Dante123> well thanx god photoshop can have multiple windows of the same part 13:18:24 <Dante123> where 1 is at 100% and the other 400% for example 13:18:51 <Wolf01> I use graphics gale free for pixart, it's better than PS imho 13:19:07 <Dante123> never heard of that ? 13:19:12 <Wolf01> try it 13:19:30 <Dante123> well im used to photoshop from work and a big history of signature designs :P 13:19:41 <Dante123> its called graphics gale ? 13:19:46 <Wolf01> yes 13:20:17 <Wolf01> search for the free version, you can't made animated gifs but I don't see the problem, we use png and pcx :P 13:20:22 <Wolf01> *make 13:20:46 <Dante123> we dont even need animated 13:20:55 <Dante123> animation is done with all different sprites :p 13:23:20 <Dante123> this is already better now: http://i55.tinypic.com/epurn.png 13:23:39 <Dante123> although the pipes still needs to be segmentated 13:24:48 <Wolf01> you should shade the lower floor, it looks continuous with the border 13:25:03 <Dante123> uuh what you mean ? 13:25:31 <Wolf01> you removed the black line, so the lower floor is now merged with the border in the bottom part 13:28:17 *** toasterdd [~steffenk@neptun.selfdelve.com] has joined #openttd 13:28:28 <toasterdd> hello @all 13:29:21 <Alberth> hello 13:29:26 <toasterdd> at first: sorry for my englich 13:29:36 <Dante123> xD 13:29:47 <toasterdd> i have a proble witch openttd 13:29:52 <Dante123> aah yea i see what you ment Wolf01 13:30:00 *** xand [xand@kronos.xand.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:02 *** xand [xand@kronos.xand.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:30:06 <Dante123> type /join #openttd 13:30:09 <Dante123> ? 13:30:16 <toasterdd> dbg: [net] Sync error detected! 13:30:20 <Dante123> i wil shade that a bit more Wolf01 13:30:25 <toasterdd> but only as user 13:30:34 <toasterdd> if i run under root all works fine 13:30:45 <toasterdd> all permission look fine 13:30:45 <Dante123> ah 13:30:53 <toasterdd> have you an idea? 13:30:54 <Dante123> donnu what prog you use ? 13:30:59 <toasterdd> mom 13:31:03 <Dante123> mibbit/mirc/... 13:31:15 <toasterdd> (old version - debian lenny) 13:31:20 <toasterdd> moment please 13:31:36 <toasterdd> 0.6.2 13:31:47 <Alberth> oh, eons old 13:31:49 <Yexo> toasterdd: that hasn't been supported for quite some time now 13:31:51 <Terkhen> that's a very old version, yes 13:32:03 <Yexo> start by updating to either 1.0.5 or 1.1.0-beta1 13:32:04 <Dante123> why not mibbit or mirc ? 13:32:06 <toasterdd> i know 13:32:19 <toasterdd> you thiks its a old bug? 13:32:25 <Wolf01> Dante123, he doesn't have problems with the chat, but with the game 13:32:33 <Dante123> oooh 13:32:35 <Dante123> doh 13:32:37 <Dante123> failing 13:32:41 <Dante123> :o 13:32:48 <wojteks86> :) 13:32:57 <Yexo> most likely, and if not I doubt anybody wants to invest the time to find a bug in that old version only to find out later it was already fixed 13:32:59 <Alberth> toasterdd: no way to find out 13:33:02 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.169.59] has joined #openttd 13:33:56 <toasterdd> ok, thx, i will look to update this (openttd is very nice ;-) 13:34:49 <Terkhen> IIRC there are debian packages for download at openttd.org 13:35:16 <toasterdd> hm, the proble under debian are the libs 13:35:49 <toasterdd> or exists a compiling for lenny wich old libs? 13:36:17 <Terkhen> if there is a package for lenny at openttd.org, I would assume it is using the correct libraries for that debian version 13:36:26 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-187.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:36:45 <toasterdd> oh fine ... fine ;-) 13:40:59 <Dante123> Wolf01 what about this now: Http://www.aqua-page.nl/dls/dls/images/1.PNG 13:41:35 <Wolf01> yes, now it looks really cool 13:55:32 <toasterdd> ok, i have now 1.0.5 but the same problem. If I start the server as root then a client can connect. But run the server as user the client becomes a sync error: 13:55:38 <toasterdd> dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 0, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type udp failed: Address family for hostname not supported 13:55:50 <toasterdd> the hostname works 13:56:00 <toasterdd> how resolve openttd the hostname? 13:56:43 <Terkhen> I'm guessing something is wrong in your openttd.cfg, as it is kept after reinstalling 13:57:07 <Ammler> or root simply binds to other ip than a user 13:57:09 <toasterdd> that is possible 13:57:52 <Ammler> try setting the address 13:58:46 <Ammler> or compare the root cfg with the one from the user 13:59:01 <toasterdd> I am testing ... 14:01:33 <toasterdd> the config for user and root starts are the same. I start witch "./openttd -D -c ./srv.cfg -g ./save/1.sav" and the users home is ./ (relative) 14:02:05 <toasterdd> an user can open unprivileged prots 14:05:27 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B738EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B738EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:11 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 14:18:09 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 14:20:58 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@166.76.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 14:23:21 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: smatz * r21652 /trunk/src/ (engine.cpp pathfinder/yapf/yapf_road.cpp): -Cleanup: one semicolon is enough 14:25:08 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:31:42 <Andel> can someone please tell me the requirements for running a linux openttd server (Software wise)? 14:32:43 <Terkhen> check the readme, all required libraries are listed there 14:33:18 <Rubidium> Andel: depends on how the server is compiled 14:36:40 <Wolf01> and if you mean memory and processor.. the same of the normal game 14:44:39 *** wojteks86 [cda7078d@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 14:46:18 *** DarkTomas [darktomas@77-23-44-90-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 14:46:33 <DarkTomas> Hello anyone here ? 14:46:38 <DarkTomas> I need Fast Help Pls 14:46:53 <Wolf01> how much fast? 14:46:57 <DarkTomas> ^^ 14:47:09 <DarkTomas> I have a question ^^ 14:47:43 <DarkTomas> Me and my firends want to play openttd in multiplayer thats not the problem but we want to disable aircraft / planes 14:47:50 <DarkTomas> sry my english is noit the best 14:47:57 <DarkTomas> friends* 14:48:25 <Wolf01> set the aircraft limit to 0 in the options 14:48:26 <ABCRic> Advanced Settings > Vehicles > Set aircraft limit to 0 14:48:34 <Wolf01> *settings :P 14:48:47 <ABCRic> :) 14:50:02 <DarkTomas> ^thanks 14:50:24 <DarkTomas> an another question gives a way to customice the multiplayer more? 14:50:36 <DarkTomas> more then the advanced Options? 14:50:59 <Alberth> in what way? 14:51:00 <ABCRic> you can customize it as much as single-player 14:51:19 <Wolf01> there are some console commands you can't find in advanced settings 14:51:32 <DarkTomas> where i find there? 14:51:40 <Wolf01> wiki, I hope 14:51:46 <Alberth> in the console :) 14:52:06 <DarkTomas> sry guys in openttd im a noob 14:52:56 * ABCRic would provide a link if only his ISP's DNS server was working 14:53:18 <Alberth> Type ` <-- backtic, near the ESC or ~ at most keyboards 14:54:22 <Alberth> but even then, there are very few settings specific for multi-player, except the usual ones, like passwd, #players, or network settings 14:55:26 <DarkTomas> mkay 14:55:36 <Alberth> you know that many customizations can be done by loading NewGRFs before starting? 14:55:38 <ABCRic> brb, gotta reset connection 14:55:47 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@166.76.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #openttd [] 14:56:39 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@249.55.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 14:56:45 <DarkTomas> Welcome Back 14:57:46 <ABCRic> I bet my ISP is cutting my connection on purpose... I should them some email one of these days. 14:58:30 <Wolf01> it happens here too, every 5 minutes in some cases 14:58:37 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:59:17 <ZirconiumX> Hello? 14:59:39 <ABCRic> Over the last months, it seems the connection gets worse around the 20th every month, then gets better the start of the next month. 15:00:24 <ABCRic> At least once a day I lose DNS access and have to reconnect or I can't access any page 15:00:55 <ABCRic> Hi ZirconiumX 15:01:11 <DarkTomas> AbcRic whisch internet provider? 15:01:16 <DarkTomas> whitch 15:01:17 <ZirconiumX> hello ABCRic, how are you? 15:01:22 <ABCRic> Vodafone 15:01:25 <ZirconiumX> *which 15:01:39 <DarkTomas> o.O you are from germany ? 15:01:55 <ABCRic> DarkTomas: no, I am from Portugal 15:02:16 <DarkTomas> o.O vodafone in Portugal 15:02:23 <ABCRic> yes. 15:02:31 <DarkTomas> oh ok 15:02:44 <ABCRic> I'd say second biggest phone carrier here. 15:03:27 <Wolf01> ABCRic, change your dns, use google or something else 15:03:46 <ABCRic> Wolf01: I tried... It doesn't work. 15:04:25 <ABCRic> I have to reconnect for the setting to take effect, and if I do, it resets to auto-detect. 15:04:26 <Wolf01> then is not dns problem, it's httprequest problem, did you try to ping a site when this happen? 15:04:58 <ABCRic> Yes, and it won't resolve the address. 15:05:18 <DarkTomas> Guys can i ask you a Hm i think stupid question? 15:05:29 <DarkTomas> not stupid but i didnt find a better word 15:05:42 <Alberth> DarkTomas: don't ask to ask, just ask the question 15:06:03 <DarkTomas> I make more money with peoples or industries? 15:06:33 <ABCRic> Depends on distance, type of transport, etc. 15:06:46 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 15:06:48 <DarkTomas> only trains and street vehicles 15:07:01 <Alberth> in the graphs, there is a cargo payment window 15:07:13 <DarkTomas> o.O? 15:07:16 <ABCRic> Also depends on what vehicles you use. 15:07:17 <DarkTomas> graphs? 15:07:40 <ABCRic> There's a graph button on the toolbar 15:08:31 <Alberth> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_interface 15:09:20 <DarkTomas> i must go afk sry tghank you all 15:09:24 *** DarkTomas [darktomas@77-23-44-90-dynip.superkabel.de] has left #openttd [] 15:10:43 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has joined #openttd 15:10:44 <ZirconiumX> How are you all? 15:17:18 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 15:17:29 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 15:18:26 <IchGuckLive> hey its snpowing hevely outside ,so no walk around .Play OpenTTD insted what is the best to start in Dessert ? 15:18:44 <IchGuckLive> the graph give me a Dimand most money 15:19:03 <IchGuckLive> but i think water is more efficent so there is more to transport ? 15:20:05 <DanMacK> Hey all 15:20:12 <IchGuckLive> B) Dan 15:20:15 <ABCRic> Hi DanMacK 15:25:16 <DanMacK> Diamonds are good money, but very low output to start 15:25:26 <Alberth> IchGuckLive: Look in the cargo payment window to see what pays best 15:25:45 <ABCRic> Anyone know how to compile a solution through the command line using MSVC without having to call any batch files? 15:25:49 <DanMacK> I usually try for maize or copper at the start 15:26:12 <DanMacK> Oil isn't bad either 15:26:53 <IchGuckLive> thanks so start and wait for a subvention offer 15:31:03 <DanMacK> That's the way I uslally do it. 15:31:18 <DanMacK> Starting with passenger services in cities is good too. 15:32:01 <DanMacK> If you've got a water supply near a desert town w/a water tower, serve it ASAP, either with trucks or a small rail operation, that helps the city grow 15:35:28 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:35:31 <ABCRic> Finally found msbuild.exe! windows search... I am disappoint. 15:35:58 <ABCRic> hi andythenorth 15:36:38 <andythenorth> brb 15:36:54 <IchGuckLive> one more question: if i give a train "unload all do not load " it seams that he longer stays in the station then if i do nothing on the order ? is this TRHU 15:38:12 <DanMacK> If a station accepts a cargo, you don't need to hit that. Only if you're transferring to another train or mode of transport 15:39:22 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:39:29 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:25 *** andythenorth_ [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:50:52 * DanMacK misses the Treasure Island map from original TTD, and will have to load it in Open when he gets home 15:51:58 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 15:53:15 <IchGuckLive> do i have to include in dessert all tiles of a industrie oil Raffenerie in case ? 15:54:01 <IchGuckLive> there are 6 tanks on the one side and 2 starion buildings on the other side 15:58:31 <andythenorth> IchGuckLive: what industry set? 15:59:48 <IchGuckLive> desert 16:00:24 <ABCRic> IchGuckLive: are you using any NewGRF industry set? 16:00:44 <IchGuckLive> ok i did it allone and includet all tile 16:01:06 <IchGuckLive> ABCRic: no just standard download 16:01:29 <andythenorth> IchGuckLive: the station building window might tell you what's accepted / supplied 16:01:42 <ABCRic> ^that 16:01:45 <andythenorth> or that might be only in nightly build 16:01:48 <andythenorth> can't remember 16:02:48 <IchGuckLive> ok TRhanks 16:02:55 <ABCRic> andythenorth: no, it's in the stable too 16:04:33 <DanMacK> WB Andy 16:04:52 * ABCRic presents... his OpenTTD Updater! Carefully made in VB.net. http://i55.tinypic.com/1z88pe.jpg whada ya think? :D 16:06:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@60.51.81.6] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:47 *** KouDy [~KouDy@60.51.81.6] has joined #openttd 16:08:58 <ABCRic> no comments? :( 16:10:07 <IchGuckLive> ABCRic: why is there a run checkbox? 16:10:08 * DanMacK likes 16:10:47 <ABCRic> IchGuckLive: because compiling takes around 6 minutes and I don't know if I still want to play after that time :P 16:12:02 <ccfreak2k> ABCRic, I swear I've seen this before. 16:12:20 <ABCRic> ccfreak2k: seen what? 16:12:31 <ccfreak2k> Some kind of OpenTTD SVN updater/patcher/compiler. 16:12:58 <ABCRic> I haven't. 16:13:19 *** SystemParadox [~simon@proxima.systemparadox.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:14:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.187.223] has joined #openttd 16:15:22 <ABCRic> Unless you mean that script that's somewhere on the openttdcoop wiki 16:15:46 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100423140709]] 16:16:18 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:19:59 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6AC36.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:10 * ABCRic likes andythenorth's FISH 16:30:25 <andythenorth> more fish soon 16:30:38 <ABCRic> :) 16:31:49 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has joined #openttd 16:32:01 *** LordAro [586e8d31@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:32:02 <ABCRic> an equivalent to the hovercraft, maybe? the OpenGFX one looks strange in the middle of the other ships :P 16:32:12 <LordAro> moin 16:34:23 <Terkhen> there's already a hovercraft in FISH 16:35:28 <ABCRic> Terkhen: but it's equivalent to the original; it carries everything but passengers 16:35:34 <ABCRic> *not equivalent 16:35:35 <Ammler> just watch a streamcast about vcs (git) which does not recommend to branch from trunk :-) 16:36:07 <Terkhen> the original hovercraft is the only standard ship not disabled by FISH IIRC 16:37:07 <ABCRic> Yes, but like I said, it looks strange in the middle of the set 16:37:48 <andythenorth> actually, latest FISH nightly will also leave the original ferries in the game 16:37:57 <andythenorth> this is a temporary thing 16:38:05 <andythenorth> we needed more passenger ships :P 16:38:43 <andythenorth> I have a render that needs painting for a big passenger hovercraft 16:38:55 <andythenorth> I also have a small, fast, any-cargo hovercraft to paint 16:39:00 <andythenorth> and some hydrofoils 16:39:06 <andythenorth> but painting takes ages 16:39:09 <andythenorth> ask DanMacK :P 16:45:51 <Alberth> Ammler: sounds useful :p 16:46:42 <DanMacK> Yeah... it does, but results are worth it :P 16:47:14 <Terkhen> :) 16:48:14 <DanMacK> Maybe use the OpenGFX ferry sprites instead of the default ones? :P 16:50:03 <andythenorth> DanMacK: it just uses graphics from whatever base set is enabled 16:50:11 <andythenorth> (in the case of default ferries) 16:51:39 <DanMacK> ahhh, makes sense then 16:58:07 <dihedral> to have had a happy x-mas, y'all 16:58:10 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@80.101.115.82] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:00:25 <Ammler> dihedral: not much x, but nice anyway :-) 17:00:49 <dihedral> :-( why is that? 17:01:36 <Ammler> that is fine enough... 17:03:15 <dihedral> i got my laptop :-) 17:03:33 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has joined #openttd 17:13:02 <Hirundo> In CmdAutofillTimetable, it seems that *stuff* happens in test mode (DC_EXEC not set) 17:29:17 <planetmaker> moin 17:32:19 <fjb> Moin 17:36:28 *** toasterdd [~steffenk@neptun.selfdelve.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:38:24 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 17:43:43 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:44 <dihedral> __MARK__ 17:48:55 <dihedral> sorry, i just needed that timestamp :-P 17:49:25 <Eddi|zuHause> __PFENNIG__# 17:49:40 * dihedral hands Eddi|zuHause a 'groschen' ;-) 17:57:41 <Eddi|zuHause> strangely, that word has completely got out of use 17:58:46 <dihedral> it was linked too deeply to 10 pfennig in peoples mindes 17:59:14 <Eddi|zuHause> but it could easily have been moved to mean 10 cent instead 17:59:19 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 17:59:31 <ZirconiumX> hello? 18:00:22 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:53 <dihedral> @topic 18:01:53 <DorpsGek> dihedral: 1.0.5 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | Latest is not a valid version | English only 18:02:32 *** planetmaker changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.0.5 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: vcs, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version | English only 18:05:15 <dihedral> grrr... openttd.org timesout for me :-( 18:07:40 <lugo> andythenorth, "It can. It probably won't. I prefer to have the smoke all the time." < i think that would've been a neat gimmick :) 18:07:51 <andythenorth> pikka did it in PBI 18:07:53 <andythenorth> it's a neat gimmick 18:08:08 <lugo> yup nothing more nothing less :) 18:08:17 <andythenorth> but smoke all the time looks better 18:10:08 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 18:15:46 *** fjb is now known as Guest2532 18:15:47 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFEC88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:33 <dihedral> yumm... 164MB/s write speed 18:22:02 <ZirconiumX> How old is your PC.... 18:22:37 *** Guest2532 [~frank@p5DDFC4BE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:50 <planetmaker> dihedral: continuously? 18:23:02 <planetmaker> ssd? 18:23:25 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8798.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:24:16 <dihedral> ssd :-) 18:26:39 <Alberth> now just find a way to generate data fast enough :) 18:27:01 <dihedral> data or usable data? :-P 18:27:20 <dihedral> well, it's my laptop - it'll fill up fast enough 18:28:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-24-209-140.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:29:06 <dihedral> but it is rather nice to see installations to just wizz along ^^ 18:29:20 <Ammler> hmm, me should setup a AutoLatest server ;-) 18:29:46 <dihedral> i am working on a autonightly app :-) 18:29:58 <Ammler> booring nightly might be valied :-P 18:40:35 <Terkhen> do you know of any NewGRF with faster bridges? 18:41:06 <dihedral> bridges don't move at all 18:41:30 <Terkhen> :( 18:41:40 <Terkhen> I see... I wanted them to jump around 18:42:07 <Terkhen> I could also use bridges that allow vehicles to move faster across them :P 18:43:12 <dihedral> you could make a vehicle set that just uses the sprites from bridges :-P 18:43:19 <dihedral> @logs 18:43:19 <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 18:45:58 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21653 /trunk/src/lang/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:58 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:58 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 changes by arnau 18:45:58 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: english_US - 6 changes by Rubidium 18:45:58 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: esperanto - 13 changes by Christopher 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: estonian - 35 changes by notAbot 18:45:59 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: french - 8 changes by glx 18:46:41 <ZirconiumX> Ahem, serious fault condition, using r21649, opened advanced settings, and selected the display options menu in the interaction menu, and it crashed 18:47:37 <dihedral> do you have the crashlog? (if yes, please upload it somewhere or use a service such as pastebin.com) 18:47:49 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 18:48:16 <ZirconiumX> Am compiling a bug report as we speak 18:49:53 <ZirconiumX> FS4345 18:50:27 <ZirconiumX> Well? 18:52:03 <ABCRic> Segmentation fault? 18:52:04 <Terkhen> how do you know it is "serious"? 18:52:32 <ABCRic> Terkhen: it's what the crash windows says 18:52:46 <ZirconiumX> Well for a start it said Serious fault condition has occured, the game will now shut down 18:52:52 <Terkhen> oh, right :D 18:52:57 <ZirconiumX> ^^ 18:53:51 <ZirconiumX> Hmmm. 18:54:08 <Alberth> works for me 18:54:22 <ZirconiumX> On a note, it didn't show the assertation failure window, so that's not it 18:54:35 <ZirconiumX> that's why it's OS X 18:54:46 <Terkhen> it is probably OSX related, yes 18:54:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:24 <Terkhen> so... there is no bridge newgrf that allows speeds greater than 611? 18:56:29 <Alberth> you could remove all newgrfs and start a bew game, to be sure it is not a newgrf 18:56:44 <Alberth> *new 18:56:45 * ZirconiumX worries that OS X support will be dropped 18:57:08 <ZirconiumX> ok alberth 18:57:36 <dihedral> well, 2 mins for compiling openttd is not too bad for a laptop 18:57:38 <Alberth> also, is it reliable, ie crashes it each time? 18:58:06 <ZirconiumX> I started new game crashed, opened savegame, crashed 18:58:19 <Eddi|zuHause> OS X support WAS dropped. 18:58:31 <Eddi|zuHause> over a year ago. 18:58:34 <ABCRic> Eddi|zuHause: and resumed, kinda 18:58:35 <Alberth> ZirconiumX: grfs that have 'obsolete' in their path does not sound too promising :) 18:58:57 <dihedral> i doubt os x support would get dropped that quickly again ;-) 18:59:14 <ZirconiumX> It's just crashed, no grfs 18:59:17 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause: there are OSX nightlies... 18:59:42 <ZirconiumX> :( 18:59:47 <planetmaker> well. It works for me. But you use a PPC computer 18:59:53 * planetmaker wonders whether it could be BE related 18:59:56 <ZirconiumX> hmmm 18:59:57 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but afair the situation of "no dev has actually a clue about the os x api" doesn't really have changed 19:00:03 <dihedral> planetmaker, i'll go test ;-) 19:00:34 <dihedral> oh - i cannot 19:00:50 <dihedral> my dsl provider seems to have minor issues with tt-forums and openttd, etc. 19:00:53 * ZirconiumX hope that it isn't 19:00:57 <dihedral> probably some peering somewhere 19:01:02 <dihedral> i'll check once that is resolved 19:01:13 <Alberth> the setting that should be drawn is "group expenses in company finance window", a very stable setting. 19:01:32 <dihedral> @fs 4345 19:01:33 <DorpsGek> dihedral: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/4345 19:01:35 <ABCRic> dihedral: have you tried a proxy? 19:01:42 <dihedral> nah 19:02:06 <dihedral> i am about to try going via mobile internet 19:02:18 <ABCRic> Alberth: nothing is stable when you're using a nightly :P 19:02:47 <ZirconiumX> true 19:02:58 <dihedral> 'stable' is relative 19:03:05 <ZirconiumX> but this is code that 1.1.0-beta2 is going to be built on 19:03:06 <planetmaker> dihedral: all you need to do is get r21649 from the usual download and try to open the adv. settings from ingame (not main menu) 19:03:11 <planetmaker> seems like it 19:03:12 <Alberth> yeah, but that code has not been changed for a long time 19:03:24 <planetmaker> hm... ok, but you can't reach openttd? 19:03:48 <dihedral> nopes 19:04:51 <dihedral> i'll try mobile internet 19:05:23 <Terkhen> it works on windows 19:05:33 <planetmaker> yes, it also works here on OSX... 19:05:51 <planetmaker> dihedral: I'll upload the nightly to the coop server, can you reach that? 19:05:52 <dihedral> if it's an endianess issue, try an AMD computer 19:05:56 <dihedral> instead of intel based 19:06:00 <planetmaker> eh? 19:06:04 <dihedral> ;-) 19:06:09 <dihedral> aye 19:06:17 <ZirconiumX> there is no AMD mac 19:06:26 <dihedral> ...! 19:06:30 <dihedral> windows AMD? 19:06:33 <dihedral> linux AMD? 19:06:52 <ZirconiumX> I don't have Linux, nor win 19:07:13 <dihedral> no, but someone else in this channel may 19:07:24 <Alberth> ZirconiumX: can you provide a debug stack trace? that should give more information on what it is doing. 19:07:35 * ZirconiumX appeals for an AMD user to come forward 19:07:43 <ZirconiumX> ? 19:07:51 * Alberth uses a 64bit AMD machine 19:07:54 <ZirconiumX> ok... 19:08:18 <ZirconiumX> BRB 19:08:52 <ZirconiumX> So a piccy of what the debug console says at start of launch? 19:08:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B738EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B738EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:09:53 <ZirconiumX> PM? 19:10:21 <ZirconiumX> Alberth, sorry to be noobish but what is a debug stack trace? 19:11:44 <dihedral> ohhh.... 19:11:50 <dihedral> 24 mins for the download :-D 19:12:00 <dihedral> i do not get a HSDPA connection in my flat :-P 19:12:24 <dihedral> well - we'll have to live with that 19:12:32 <andythenorth> ZirconiumX: do you use the OS X package? (double click to run), or do you build your own ottd? 19:12:42 <ZirconiumX> OS X package 19:13:04 <Alberth> http://www.fpaste.org/1bOO/ 19:13:22 <andythenorth> ZirconiumX: do you know how to use terminal? 19:13:26 <Alberth> hmm, then you cannot supply one :( 19:13:30 <andythenorth> he can 19:13:35 <andythenorth> IIRC 19:13:42 <ZirconiumX> ATN yes 19:14:09 <ZirconiumX> Terminal launched 19:14:21 <planetmaker> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/save/openttd-trunk-r21649-macosx-universal.zip <-- @ dihedral 19:14:31 <dihedral> perfect :-) 19:14:47 <dihedral> but Alberth already confirmed it :-) 19:14:53 <planetmaker> hu? 19:15:03 <Alberth> that was a different crash 19:15:28 <Alberth> oh, AMD 19:15:49 <planetmaker> uhm... but AMD is little endian, too? Or do I miss out on something? 19:16:23 <Alberth> no idea, people asked for a AMD test person :) 19:16:56 * andythenorth is baffled 19:17:20 <dihedral> i recall some password issue at some point where a passowrded company with the password set on an amd system could not be joined from intel - so i'd assume so 19:17:21 <andythenorth> I can start ottd from inside the OS X package using terminal, but it misses the normal debug output I see 19:17:28 <andythenorth> do I need to specify debug level? 19:17:41 <andythenorth> (I normally use 'make run') 19:18:35 <planetmaker> in order to reproduce this issue you don't need to specify a debug level... 19:18:58 <planetmaker> that starts to get interesting IF you can reproduce it :-) 19:19:31 <andythenorth> I missed what the issue was :P 19:19:38 <andythenorth> just trying to help.... 19:19:45 * andythenorth goes back to coding smoke ;) 19:20:03 <Alberth> andythenorth: trying to get a debug stack trace from the crash 19:20:21 <dihedral> hehe - i cannot even open the display settings 19:20:38 <andythenorth> well normally I'd see that in terminal IIRC, depending on how I ran ottd 19:20:50 <ZirconiumX> good to see you 19:20:59 <LordAro> you to ;) 19:21:06 <LordAro> too* 19:21:17 <ZirconiumX> Right in the middle of a problem, been following? 19:21:35 <LordAro> yeah... 19:22:25 * dihedral can access openttd.org again :-) 19:22:35 <ZirconiumX> hurrah! 19:24:06 <planetmaker> [20:20] <dihedral> hehe - i cannot even open the display settings <-- which means? 19:24:19 <dihedral> not sure yet :-P 19:24:27 * ZirconiumX stops celebrating and askes dihedral if he can replicate the problem 19:24:28 <dihedral> but it crashes right there 19:24:39 <ZirconiumX> Even worse... 19:24:55 <dihedral> i'll update my copy of opengfx 19:27:09 <ZirconiumX> What version do you have currently 19:28:07 <dihedral> ..... 19:28:26 <dihedral> that really was a silly question :-P 19:29:55 <ZirconiumX> 'Tis a question none the less 19:30:54 <ZirconiumX> You've got me wondering... 19:31:05 <ZirconiumX> I've got myself wonder 19:31:26 <dihedral> i am trying to reproduce your bug report ;-) 19:31:34 <dihedral> what version would i sensibly be using ^^ 19:31:45 <dihedral> anyway - i can reproduce 19:31:49 <ZirconiumX> r21649 19:31:54 <dihedral> crash at opening display options 19:32:00 <dihedral> 'expanding' 19:32:18 <ZirconiumX> that makes it a 'confirmed' bug 19:32:54 <dihedral> but i am not someone to change that status, and keeping that status 1:1 up to date is not as important as fining and fixing the bug 19:34:37 *** afk [~Dre@92.30.58.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:41 <ZirconiumX> May want to put you have replicated that bug on the FS bug 19:34:58 <ZirconiumX> I'll do it myself 19:35:42 <dihedral> like i said ;-) it is not that important that the status is reflected 1:1 19:36:18 <ZirconiumX> I have to go, best of luck finding and fixing that bug. 19:36:29 <ZirconiumX> Bye! 19:36:44 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:37:44 <LordAro> nice chap :) 19:39:31 <dihedral> friendly at least :-) 19:39:43 <dihedral> does not have this 'shoot-em-up temper' :-P 19:40:11 <planetmaker> dihedral: can you possibly try to get a stacktrace? 19:40:35 <dihedral> i am just compiling the debug enabled binary ;-) 19:40:48 <dihedral> needs about 25mins on that machine 19:41:05 <planetmaker> thanks :-) 19:41:18 <dihedral> i was just going to get a core dump 19:41:23 <planetmaker> :-) 19:41:36 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:57 <dihedral> and upload the 700MB :-D 19:43:01 <dihedral> nah - just kidding 19:48:26 *** Guest2304 is now known as SmatZ 19:50:56 <dihedral> uhhh... ZtamS 19:51:00 <dihedral> :-) 19:51:30 <SmatZ> dihedral: do you have your client set to some RTL language? :) 19:51:52 <dihedral> the clients client 19:51:56 <dihedral> = me :-P 19:52:10 <SmatZ> you're broken :P 19:52:30 <dihedral> no - i just have many features and i am trying them all out :-D 19:53:00 <SmatZ> :D 19:55:41 <SmatZ> dihedral: about FS#4345, you reproduced it only in OSX? 19:56:18 <dihedral> i am sorry, i have no amd based computer around to try it on 19:56:31 <dihedral> 2x intel, 1x ppc, 1x via 19:56:46 <SmatZ> "Has been reproduced by dihedral." means you reproduced it :) 19:57:02 <dihedral> my amd based machine is at an office currently bing used as decoration standing in the corner, i still have to pick it up 19:57:09 <dihedral> lol? 19:57:23 <dihedral> doing it like the rabbits, ey? 19:57:25 <SmatZ> there shouldn't be difference between AMD and Intel CPUs (unless it's some invalid instruction problem - but the crash log says SIGSEGV, not SIGILL) 19:57:31 <SmatZ> :P 19:57:49 <SmatZ> maybe :) 19:57:50 <glx> OSX on AMD is not easy :) 19:57:59 <dihedral> so, sigill is used for endian issues? 19:57:59 <SmatZ> I don't know what were you doing to reproduce it :) 19:58:02 <SmatZ> glx: oh right :) 19:58:09 <SmatZ> dihedral: SIGILL is illegal instruction 19:58:27 <dihedral> and if i assume an endianness issue ;-) 19:58:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-157-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:38 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.156.129] has joined #openttd 19:58:47 <SmatZ> dihedral: so it crashes only on ppc, not on x86? 19:58:53 <glx> but AMD and Intel have the same endianness 19:59:07 <dihedral> glx i think they do not 19:59:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-157-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:59:18 <glx> they are both LE 19:59:26 <planetmaker> andythenorth: you're on an intel machine and you cannot reproduce FS#4345, right? 20:00:11 <andythenorth> I haven't tried 20:00:24 <planetmaker> well, could you? :-) 20:00:26 <dihedral> plannetmaker cannot reproduce 20:00:28 <dihedral> the bug :-P 20:00:35 <planetmaker> you canNOT?! 20:01:19 <SmatZ> :P 20:04:10 <Alberth> dihedral: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1024951/does-my-amd-based-machine-use-little-endian-or-big-endian <-- says x86 and x86_64 AMD are both little endian 20:05:27 <dihedral> hmmmm 20:05:29 <planetmaker> they'd not be x86 clones otherwise ;-) 20:05:38 <dihedral> yes, that is quite true :-P 20:07:59 <glx> the crash.log tells where the segfault happens but it's not precise enough 20:07:59 <Terkhen> http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/12/oracle-extends-open-source-vir.html <-- I'm not sure if this will be bad or not 20:08:20 <planetmaker> dihedral: so, you cannot reproduce the issue? What was "[20:31] <dihedral> anyway - i can reproduce" about? 20:09:48 <dihedral> task updated 20:10:42 <glx> colour=3225937076 <-- nice 20:10:54 <glx> and clearly invalid :) 20:11:49 <SmatZ> @base 10 16 3225937076 20:11:49 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: C047E4B4 20:12:18 <planetmaker> hm, yes... next follows an array access with that colour as index 20:12:24 <Eddi|zuHause> alpha channel? ;) 20:12:56 <dihedral> but why on ppc macs only? 20:13:32 <planetmaker> they're both 10.4.11... maybe it's related to that... 20:13:59 <SmatZ> dihedral: do you use gcc 4.0.1 too? 20:14:16 <planetmaker> SmatZ: the downloaded version from the CF... 20:14:23 <planetmaker> oh... there the debug. hm 20:14:23 <dihedral> yes 20:14:25 <planetmaker> yes 20:14:33 <planetmaker> there's no ohter ppc compiler ;-) 20:14:50 <glx> dihedral: PPC (well BE) had "problems" with bools too 20:15:02 <dihedral> ah :-) 20:15:20 <dihedral> no wonder i had to press the 'off' button to turn it on :-P 20:15:30 <dihedral> :-D 20:16:10 <Terkhen> :D 20:16:34 <glx> _bool_ctabs[!!on][!!editable] <-- maybe BE doesn't like :) 20:17:39 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has joined #openttd 20:17:42 <glx> bool on = (*(bool*)var); <-- and that's another option 20:17:43 <SmatZ> dihedral: does it work if you compile with --enable-debug=3 ? 20:17:51 <SmatZ> ...configure... 20:18:14 <dihedral> i'll try - will take another 25 mins before the compile is done though 20:18:46 <glx> anyway the bug is somewhere in void SettingEntry::DrawSetting(GameSettings *settings_ptr, const SettingDesc *sd, int left, int right, int y, int state) 20:19:14 <SmatZ> rather in apple's gcc :p 20:19:40 <dihedral> hehe 20:19:41 <glx> that's not new ;) 20:20:01 <dihedral> s/'s.*// 20:21:31 <SmatZ> :) 20:23:14 <glx> but !! is used in many places and used to work 20:23:59 <SmatZ> well, that "dir ^= true" used to work too :P 20:25:33 <glx> hehe 20:26:23 * andythenorth has a pony suggestion 20:26:28 <andythenorth> quite a serious one 20:26:51 <dihedral> why would openttd want a pony? :-P 20:26:57 <andythenorth> vehicle property that could increase station ratings 20:27:13 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:27:30 <andythenorth> e.g. if the train contains a restaurant car, uses a caboose, is a luxury liner etc 20:28:40 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC3704.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 20:28:52 * Wolf01 wants to suggest a pony too 20:29:17 <Alberth> don't suggest to suggest, just suggest :) 20:29:41 <Wolf01> passengers wagons should be able to double their capacity when the in the station there are more than 1000 passengers 20:29:50 <Alberth> lol ! 20:29:54 * andythenorth lols 20:31:04 <Wolf01> in Italy, Milano-Padova and Milano-Bologna routes always have this problem (at least the 2 ones I use) 20:31:23 <dihedral> take a buss in sao paulo :-P 20:31:41 <dihedral> 'double' is not enough for what they stuff into a single buss 20:31:50 <Wolf01> somebody should code Indian trains with passengers on the roof 20:32:31 <planetmaker> Wolf01: someone should *draw* them first 20:33:07 <planetmaker> if you modify the existing passenger wagons for OpenGFX: please go ahead and I might provide you with that featre as a small little easter egg for OpenGFX+trains ;-) 20:33:12 <Wolf01> newgrf: passengers wagons with unlimited capacity, just put people on it until all available pixels are taken 20:34:17 * andythenorth doesn't want people in the game :P 20:34:25 <andythenorth> I like the strange semi-aspergic empty world 20:34:27 <Wolf01> eheh, the most difficult thing I was able to do was to code a steam engine with the maglev chimera graphics 20:35:01 <andythenorth> actually the reason no-one is in the world is they are all watching football / rugby 20:35:08 <andythenorth> or at least, waiting for the game to start 20:35:11 <dihedral> SmatZ, i've updated the ticket 20:35:37 <andythenorth> 'someone' should animate a game on the stadium pitches 20:38:54 <fjb> You should at least double the capacity of the passenger wagons with people on the roof. And you should add passengers as an additional cargo to the goods wagons. 20:39:20 <Alberth> add it as refit option :) 20:40:20 <dihedral> i have a pony too :-P 20:40:37 <planetmaker> refit: overloaded passenger wagon (developing countries style) 20:40:49 <dihedral> if you supply a town with too much food / goods the passangers from there are to x % obese :-{ 20:40:50 <dihedral> :-P 20:40:58 * fjb wonders why the TTD towns are building hospitals when always all people are dying in a crash. 20:41:24 <Alberth> people have to be healthy enough to drive/travel 20:42:25 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:43:09 <planetmaker> dihedral: in the crash window you got / get... are the filenames correctly stated? 20:44:04 <dihedral> i was running it in qdb - there was no crash window 20:45:15 <dihedral> funny thing is, the difference in the value of colour 20:45:35 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:47:33 <dihedral> why on earth can i reach bugs.openttd.org from my mac but not from my linux computers? 20:47:39 <dihedral> wtf 20:47:48 <planetmaker> your hosts file 20:48:00 <dihedral> nope 20:48:37 <LordAro> i believe i read something somewhere that OTTD can now read .zip files, is this true? 20:49:01 <planetmaker> people write all kind of crap 20:49:21 <dihedral> yes, you rename an scn to zip and then start openttd with -g save/*.zip 20:49:45 <planetmaker> :-D 20:49:56 * LordAro wonders how hard it is to implement such a thing ;) 20:50:18 <dihedral> anyone can do it, you should have a try :-P 20:52:03 <Terkhen> why would you want to do that? sav/scn files are already compressed 20:52:44 <ABCRic> Terkhen: double-layered compression :P 20:52:54 <LordAro> i mean for things like bananas (and downloading off openttdcoop ;) ) 20:52:55 <dihedral> that's like worth nothing 20:53:07 <dihedral> hmmm 20:53:40 <LordAro> this seems like a nice one: http://www.chilkatsoft.com/zip-library.asp 20:53:52 <LordAro> not that i know anything about this sort of thing 20:54:03 <dihedral> LordAro, for compressing the data on it's way from bananas to openttd it does not have to be zip 20:54:24 <dihedral> seeing as there is already support for compression in openttd, i'd suggest focussing on what is available 20:54:33 <dihedral> rather than intorducing something new 20:54:42 <Terkhen> aren't NewGRFs already compressed too? 20:54:44 <ABCRic> dihedral: incorrect! I just zip compressed this savegame I have here and its size was reduced by... 44 bytes!!! :P 20:54:54 <dihedral> Terkhen, they are in tar archives, tar is not compressed 20:55:05 <Terkhen> I know, I meant .grf files by themselves 20:55:08 <dihedral> however, it could very well be that the http server does gzip it's output 20:55:29 <dihedral> ABCRic, 44 bytes is not worth a hassle 20:55:41 <ABCRic> I know, I was just kidding. 20:55:41 <LordAro> never mind then :D 20:55:44 <dihedral> if your save was only 88 bytes in size, that would be more interesting ;-) 20:56:05 <ABCRic> nah, it was 24152 20:57:05 <ABCRic> which makes no difference on disk. 20:57:17 <ABCRic> still takes up 24kB. 20:57:59 <ABCRic> But this other savegame, it was 7,72 MB and is now 7,71!!one! 20:58:47 <LordAro> wow... :D 20:59:54 <ABCRic> The other day, though, I zip compressed some file and the zip archive was actually bigger than the original file 21:00:25 <LordAro> use .7z ... 21:00:26 <planetmaker> compressing white noise results in bigger files 21:00:58 <ABCRic> and compressing the zip archive resulted in an even bigger archive 21:02:44 * LordAro wonders about the possibility of a bash script for the mingw setup. Terkhen? 21:02:49 <ABCRic> hmm... compressing the 24152B savegame I mentioned previously using .7z increased its size by 4 bytes 21:03:26 <LordAro> ABCRic: ignore whatever i say then :D 21:03:41 <ABCRic> so, if zip = 24108 and 7z = 24156, then zip > 7z 21:04:11 <ABCRic> math is a strange science indeed :P 21:05:12 <SmatZ> ABCRic: you compressed already compressed archive? 21:05:25 <ABCRic> SmatZ: no, the original file 21:05:38 <ABCRic> which was compressed by the game, yes 21:05:52 * ABCRic is off to dinner 21:07:22 * andythenorth doesn't add smoke to every chimney 21:07:27 <andythenorth> might be overkill :P 21:08:27 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:00 <dihedral> who complained about dell and their silly support software? 21:17:04 <dihedral> was it Rubidium ? 21:17:16 <dihedral> it's not windows based anymore :-P at least not on my laptop ^^ 21:18:44 *** SystemParadox [~simon@proxima.systemparadox.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19:38 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:48 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.43] has joined #openttd 21:29:53 <andythenorth> shall I release more FISH? 21:29:57 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-232.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 21:30:05 <dihedral> oh dear lord 21:33:09 <dihedral> lol? 21:33:19 <dihedral> you guys said colour was the prob ... 21:33:31 <dihedral> uint light = _colour_gradient[colour][7]; 21:33:37 <dihedral> i say it's not colour :-P 21:33:50 <dihedral> colour is used a few times before as access to the same array 21:37:54 *** Dante123 [503d5321@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:38:38 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.169.59] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 21:42:04 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:43:13 <LordAro> Yexo: AITown::IsCity() updated. comit please! :D 21:43:18 <LordAro> commit* 21:44:18 <planetmaker> dihedral: it's most likely the variable address resolution or alike 21:45:26 <dihedral> look at the first backtrace 21:45:39 <dihedral> it complains about line 170 of widget.cpp 21:45:49 <dihedral> the 3 lines before that must have been fine 21:46:01 <dihedral> the second backtrace is different in that sense 21:46:33 <glx> dihedral: means the invalid colour is ok before [7] ;) 21:46:51 <planetmaker> well. The colour of the company finances IS wrong: [22:05] <planetmaker> the "group exenses in the finances window" boolean button gets a wrong colour assigned: http://imagebin.org/129955 21:47:15 <glx> but at [7] it's too big 21:48:13 <dihedral> but colour does not get increased before the usage in that line 21:48:32 <ABCRic> O.O 21:48:59 <dihedral> the group expenses looks alright on my laptop :-P 21:49:25 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 21:49:38 <planetmaker> that's the part which triggers the crash here and when leaving out many deps it's which gets the wrong colour. Feels like a smoking gun ;-) 21:50:21 <dihedral> but the colour itself is still valid 21:50:29 *** ABCRic_ [~ABCRic@74.33.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 21:50:33 *** ABCRic is now known as Guest2550 21:50:33 *** ABCRic_ is now known as ABCRic 21:51:00 <planetmaker> dihedral: but it's an out-of-bounds memory access for the array 21:51:01 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.169.59] has joined #openttd 21:52:40 <dihedral> planetmaker, at line 170, but not at 169? using the same colour value? 21:53:36 <dihedral> 7 is out of bounds and 6 is not 21:53:41 <dihedral> why on earth 21:53:45 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 21:56:23 *** `Fuco` [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:34 *** Guest2550 [~ABCRic@249.55.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:56:55 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has joined #openttd 21:57:47 <planetmaker> dihedral: settings_gui.cpp:1154-1158 is what sets the colour 21:59:04 <dihedral> yes, i am just tampering with that 21:59:29 <ABCRic> if it's an out-of-bounds problem, how come it only happens on ppc? 22:00:22 <LordAro> when committing in hg, what's the best 'command structure' (hg commit --message....etc, what?) 22:00:33 <dihedral> i am curious if it would happen on a ppc running linux 22:01:20 <planetmaker> dihedral: setup a debian. IIRC they provide there a binary for some BE architecture, too. I don't recall which, though 22:01:41 <dihedral> i aint dropping my os x from that laptop ^^ 22:02:27 <planetmaker> :-) 22:02:44 <dihedral> interesting - with --enable-debug=3 i cannot reproduce the segfault on line 170 but on 167 22:03:25 <SmatZ> with high debug level, openttd is compiled with -O0 22:03:48 <SmatZ> by default, it's with -O2, so statements can be executed in different order 22:04:43 <dihedral> ah 22:05:06 <dihedral> you could have mentioned that earlier :-P 22:06:18 <SmatZ> it could be bug in the compiler 22:06:21 <LordAro> i realise you are busy fixing bugs, but i would like an answer please :) 22:06:25 <SmatZ> at higher opt levels 22:06:41 <SmatZ> LordAro: I don't use hg 22:07:00 <V453000> LordAro: have a beer, that will bring your answer 22:07:13 <V453000> if it doesnt, have another 22:07:21 <V453000> until answer found :) 22:07:33 <SmatZ> hello V453000! :) 22:07:36 <V453000> hi :) 22:07:43 <ABCRic> while(!answer_found) DrinkBeer(); // :P 22:07:54 <V453000> exactly :p 22:07:58 <LordAro> i got a better idea: ask in #openttdcoop 22:08:12 <LordAro> ABCRic: me likes! :D 22:08:20 <SmatZ> :D 22:08:31 <ABCRic> :D 22:10:49 <dihedral> SmatZ, how could we find out? 22:11:02 <LordAro> i liked that so much i added it to my sig :) 22:12:43 <SmatZ> dihedral: if it works fine with -O0, it could be compiler bug 22:12:56 <LordAro> btw, i'm aiming my question at planetmaker mostly, since he probably does the most committing ;) 22:13:06 <SmatZ> (it still can be compiler bug even at -O0 though) 22:13:11 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.44.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:13:19 <planetmaker> ? 22:13:57 <LordAro> when committing in hg, what's the best 'command structure' (hg commit --message....etc, what?) 22:14:08 <LordAro> ;) 22:14:17 <dihedral> SmatZ, it's not fine, it just fails at a different line 22:14:43 <planetmaker> hg ci -m "my crap" 22:14:53 <planetmaker> with a properly configured ~/.hgrc 22:15:07 <planetmaker> but all that is in the mercurial help files 22:15:12 <LordAro> thanks for that :D 22:15:22 <planetmaker> ... 22:15:38 <planetmaker> consider to do a STFW next time please 22:16:42 <SmatZ> dihedral: so probably a bug in openttd 22:17:50 <LordAro> planetmaker: i did... but now you may carry on with your debugging (or whatever) ;) 22:18:19 <planetmaker> thank you sooo much for your generosity 22:18:34 <ABCRic> SmatZ: but what is the cause? A mystery, I say... 22:19:51 <SmatZ> ABCRic: it seems value out of normal range of bool is stored into memory, and then read as if it was bool 22:20:09 <SmatZ> so the compiler assumes the value is [01], but it's something else 22:20:18 <dihedral> SmatZ, i just fail to see what could be done to fix it :-) 22:20:42 <glx> dihedral: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/fs4345.diff 22:21:11 <ABCRic> So the question is _why_ it is out of normal range of bool. 22:21:11 <dihedral> glx: i'll give that a shot 22:22:31 <SmatZ> ABCRic: yeah :) maybe improper checks when loading setting from savegame, or a bug somewhere... 22:22:53 <__ln__> ABCRic: { false, true, maybe, couldbe, whoknows }; 22:23:31 <dihedral> "wer nase" 22:24:17 <ABCRic> "who nose"? 22:24:26 <ABCRic> broken translator might be broken 22:24:39 <dihedral> glx: ta :-) 22:24:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:25:41 <dihedral> a Brianetta :-) 22:25:44 * dihedral lifts his hat 22:26:14 * Brianetta nearly doffs his hat, before remembering that it's part of his mask 22:27:16 <dihedral> glx: that did work 22:27:57 <glx> but that doesn't explain why a bool can be "wrong" 22:28:43 <glx> http://pastebin.com/ugsDrps0 with printf("%d from %d; original: %d\n", on, var, (*(bool*)var)); 22:29:21 <ABCRic> maybe on > 255? :P 22:29:51 *** LordAro [586e8d31@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:29:56 <dihedral> i'll give that a shot 22:30:00 <glx> this printf is with patch applied 22:35:36 <dihedral> i get similar output 22:35:45 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.169.59] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 22:39:17 <dihedral> i.e. 1, 0, and 10's 22:39:41 <glx> 10 is the problem :) 22:40:59 <SmatZ> probably :) 22:41:07 <SmatZ> is that really the problematic value? 22:41:16 <SmatZ> it looks so... 22:41:45 <SmatZ> but in the dump planetmaker provided, 10 wasn't the last value printed before the crash 22:41:48 <SmatZ> which confuses me 22:42:14 <planetmaker> SmatZ: those values were not created from a crashed version 22:42:23 <planetmaker> my version where I create those with doesn't crash 22:42:27 <planetmaker> Just wrong colours 22:44:22 <ABCRic> So we have two problems? 22:44:41 <planetmaker> no 22:44:54 <dihedral> well - we have many more problems :-D 22:45:00 <dihedral> many more than just the one 22:45:17 <planetmaker> today we call it 'challenges' :-P 22:49:28 <planetmaker> src/settings_gui.cpp:1158: warning: format â%dâ expects type âintâ, but argument 3 has type âconst void*â <-- (*(bool*)var) is not a bool. As such it can be many things 22:49:55 <planetmaker> at least for gcc 4.0.1 22:52:20 <dihedral> grrr 22:52:58 <dihedral> silly gcc 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370) 22:53:46 <planetmaker> quite 22:54:20 <ABCRic> so... compiler bug 22:54:22 <planetmaker> hm, no, off-by one error on my part 22:59:32 <dihedral> one could consider it a compiler bug, or incorect feeding of the compiler with source it likes to eat :-P 23:02:37 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:06 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:04:16 *** theholyduck [~holyduck@77.106.156.43] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:08:28 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 23:09:37 *** bryjen [~bryjen@63.147.94.149] has quit [Quit: Quit] 23:13:10 <ABCRic> And how shall we solve this problem with this compiler and its exquisite gustation? 23:13:33 <Eddi|zuHause> use a real OS. 23:14:25 <ABCRic> Any other suggestions? 23:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but you are not going to like them either :p 23:26:56 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.10.169.59] has joined #openttd 23:28:14 <Terkhen> good night 23:30:01 <ABCRic> 'night Terkhen 23:30:19 <dihedral> tehe 23:31:01 <planetmaker> g'night Terkhen 23:31:12 <Wolf01> night Terkhen 23:31:13 <planetmaker> and also good night all others 23:31:23 <Wolf01> night planetmaker 23:31:27 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 23:32:40 <ABCRic> I'm off as well. Good night everyone 23:32:44 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@74.33.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has left #openttd []