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00:00:37 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00:42 <frosch123> but isn't it most important at the begin? (вПЎка) 00:01:42 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 00:02:23 <SmatZ> :) 00:03:20 <SmatZ> russian is slavic language, so there's a clear difference between B and V everywhere 00:13:20 <Mazur> Regardless of any linguistic considerations, that is an important word, frosch123. 00:16:36 <SmatZ> :) 00:21:57 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:22:14 <supermop> hi 00:22:36 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Progman] 00:24:25 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-123-51.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:26:55 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-75-247.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:27:08 <frosch123> night 00:27:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f644c.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:58 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 00:50:22 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC52DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:50:39 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4EEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:50:47 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D993.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:50:58 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 00:51:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D993.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57:18 *** murr5y [~murray@122.84-48-65.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58:24 *** murr4y [~murray@122.84-48-65.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 00:59:17 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF827A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:34:08 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:29 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:35:29 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.229] has joined #openttd 01:38:36 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.107.57] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 01:43:51 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4EEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 01:47:10 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-180.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:47:26 *** duckblaster [~duckblast@122-59-202-3.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:52:21 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d822732.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03:54 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:32:40 *** clum [~clum@92.9.250.32] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:51 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 03:02:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:28:01 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:36:09 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:18b9:18f3:25d2:aed4] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:04:09 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:53:53 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75C8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75806.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:58:50 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 05:59:09 <kamnet> Good morning 05:59:42 <supermop> hello 06:03:26 <kamnet> How are you today? 06:07:57 <supermop> alright 06:08:02 <supermop> played some gt5 06:10:16 <supermop> actually 06:10:24 <supermop> i think i should head off to bed 06:10:51 <supermop> how are the lots/roads coming? 06:15:07 <kamnet> Slowly coming. I just gotta take time to actually get them finished 06:15:43 <kamnet> Not too much that really needs to be done, curves and t-sections then just gotta replace the truck/bus lots. 06:15:54 <kamnet> Oh, and bridges. forgot about that too 06:16:04 <kamnet> Then I just need to find somebody who wants to code it :-) 06:16:35 <supermop> yeah, that's the hard part 06:17:39 <kamnet> Right now I'm using the code from UK Roads to test with since it's GPL, but its' coded to handle special graphics for left-side and right-side driving, my set isn't that complicated. 06:18:02 <kamnet> and it's going to be the same tiles no matter what environment you're playing in. 06:18:17 <supermop> yeah, as it is full width 06:18:47 <supermop> there was a great deal of talk about road types on here early this afternoon 06:18:51 <kamnet> But I'd like to change up the looks of the truck and bus stations for smething more industrial, so the default graphics will have to be changed and I don't think UK Roads changes those. 06:19:37 <kamnet> Yeah? What all I miss? 06:20:09 <supermop> i think andy started looking into it due to his crossing patch 06:21:00 <kamnet> hm. is there a way to read old convos here? 06:21:01 <supermop> there was discussion of various tram types, 06:21:06 <supermop> i think so 06:21:21 <supermop> but i do not know anything about how irc works 06:21:40 <supermop> i just started coming here to bug people for nfo help 06:22:00 <supermop> i know there are logs 06:22:10 <supermop> but i dont know where you can read them 06:23:09 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.229] has joined #openttd 06:23:16 <supermop> those guys are usually talking about interesting stuff around 2-3 pm est 06:24:03 <supermop> between the type of job i have, and it being a slow couple of weeks, i have been able to eavesdrop 06:24:34 <supermop> anyway 06:24:40 <supermop> i really should get to bed 06:24:45 <supermop> good luck! 06:25:09 <kamnet> Good night sleep well 06:25:19 <supermop> later 06:25:25 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 06:32:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f76f8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 06:33:26 <frosch123> surprise :p 06:36:58 <kamnet> Woot! I'm surprised! 06:37:03 <kamnet> Wait, why am I surprised? 06:44:30 <frosch123> oh, planetmaker is a poor soul without sleep as well 06:47:57 <kamnet> Well that sucks. I should be trodding off to bed soon myself 06:52:18 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:56:19 <kamnet> Oh I like this tram stop sign: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1116/1153545704_fec9049b29_o.jpg&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/31627125%40N00/1153545704&usg=__ePVsRsG_ZDrJHdP-eJd7qSEdvUs=&h=2000&w=1591&sz=830&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=9aJbhrMypw-7GM:&tbnh=134&tbnw=107&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtram%2Bstop%2Bsign%26um%3D1%26hl% 06:57:11 <kamnet> I wonder if I have room to draw that on a road tile? 06:57:52 <kamnet> But then again you would be able to see that on a road tile with tram rails on it. And it would just look silly on bare ground. 06:58:18 <kamnet> Maybe then for my industrial tram stops it should always show pavement? 06:58:46 <kamnet> I do believe that would be logical. 07:07:11 <kamnet> Darn not enough room for that logo 07:18:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e04acb2.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:23:53 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 07:26:38 <planetmaker> good morning 07:26:44 <planetmaker> hello frosch123 :-) 07:26:49 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:27:23 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [] 07:37:09 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:37:31 *** perk11 [~perk11@85.175.109.180] has joined #openttd 07:59:25 <planetmaker> http://xkcd.com/844/ <-- hehe 08:03:08 <kamnet> If I ever go back into the work place, that will be my first motivational poster I put up 08:06:07 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-72.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:39 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:08:26 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 08:09:21 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 08:18:20 <planetmaker> that doesn't sound very optimistic of being able to do :-( 08:20:07 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:21:03 <kamnet> When you're as perfect as I am, it doesn't matter :-D 08:23:19 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@86.92.135.101] has joined #openttd 08:24:48 *** welshdragon [~dragon@95.154.244.195] has left #openttd [Leaving] 08:30:04 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 08:34:08 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:10 <kamnet> It is 3:33 am ET. I have 3 emails in my inbox. 08:36:22 <kamnet> goodnight all 08:36:30 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 08:47:48 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A430.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:11 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4EEF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:39 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:21:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host190-236-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:22:35 <Wolf01> good morning 09:24:59 *** Devroush [~dennis@94-225-75-247.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:28:44 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38:24 *** blangstrup-31027 [~bb@2a02:188:102:0:bbbb:bbbb:bbbb:bbbb] has left #openttd [] 09:49:25 <peter1138> oh dear 09:49:35 <peter1138> just removed a few core dumps and freed up 3.5GB disk space, hehe 09:50:10 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@222.124.156.227] has joined #openttd 09:51:50 <peter1138> hrm, 30GB of minecraft beta server backups... 09:52:25 <Wolf01> I think there's a problem with automatic orders... I reached 254 orders with just 3 orders in list Goto A, Goto B and service at nearest depot 09:52:43 <planetmaker> Wolf01: you test with current trunk? 09:52:54 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/shortlog 09:53:06 <planetmaker> nightly is too old for the fixes ;-) 09:53:30 <Wolf01> ah, ok, I'll wait 09:53:46 <peter1138> r1, eh? heh 09:54:13 <planetmaker> yeah. I like that :-) 09:54:29 <peter1138> btw 09:54:42 <peter1138> if you ever start a project, do you commit right from the start? 09:54:52 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54:57 <planetmaker> uhm. yes. 09:55:03 <peter1138> i usually end up with a mostly working program on the first commit :S 09:55:07 <Wolf01> no, nightly, I'll wait 'til this night ;) 09:55:38 <peter1138> probably because i don't plan much, i just code when springs to mind as necessary, heh 09:55:57 <planetmaker> Doesn't mean I plan. But it's just a too convenient undo function ;-) 09:56:03 <Wolf01> ah, did you mean the bugfix, I read b1 instead of r1 09:56:05 <peter1138> hm 09:56:14 <peter1138> i don't like to commit non-working code, see 09:56:23 <peter1138> maybe it's a hangup from working with ottd svn :) 09:56:34 <planetmaker> well. One can make sure single parts work. And commit those. That's what I do 09:56:51 <peter1138> i never write unittests :S 09:57:53 <peter1138> /bin/rm: Argument list too long 09:57:53 <peter1138> /bin/rm: Argument list too long 09:57:54 <peter1138> erm 09:58:02 <peter1138> (hate this mouse, pasting twice) 09:58:54 <planetmaker> proper would be sudo /bin/rm -rf / 09:59:05 <peter1138> :( 09:59:29 <planetmaker> for i in `ls blub`; do rm $i; done 10:04:58 <frosch123> planetmaker: Wolf01: the recent fixes have nothing to do with adding lots of automatic orders 10:05:28 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:41 <frosch123> they are about full-load orders getting canceled when other trains arrive, and trains skipping their destination completely 10:05:43 <planetmaker> ho hum... 10:05:50 <peter1138> find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm 10:05:50 <peter1138> find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm 10:05:56 <peter1138> DAMN IT, double paste :( 10:05:59 <peter1138> i prefer that 10:06:21 <peter1138> good for handling filenames with things that could be interpreted differently 10:06:32 <frosch123> btw. in this case "r1" means between 0.1.4 and 0.2.0 :p 10:08:22 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:29 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-13-220.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:15:32 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-104-48.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:04 *** Tennel [~Tennel@88.150.10.194] has joined #openttd 10:17:57 <roboboy> is that old SVN or new SVN? 10:18:25 <Tennel> hello, is there a simple way, to query an openttd server via php for it's status (online/offline)? 10:18:36 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@222.124.156.227] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19:24 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@222.124.156.227] has joined #openttd 10:20:04 <peter1138> roboboy, new SVN. oddly enough, we can't query old SVN. if we could, there wouldn't be old/new SVN... 10:20:32 <roboboy> hm I thoght the disaster was more recent 10:21:11 <peter1138> svn r1 is august 2004 10:21:42 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:50 <roboboy> I thought it was 0.3.x since my first version Isuccessfuly used was 0.4.0.1 or whatever it was versioned 10:24:20 <roboboy> and I consider those old 10:26:10 <planetmaker> Tennel: search for openttdlib 10:27:01 <Tennel> planetmaker: very nice thx :) 10:28:57 <peter1138> roboboy, 0.3.4 is r251-ish 10:29:39 *** LordAro [56a754a1@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 10:30:55 *** LordAro [56a754a1@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 10:33:49 <peter1138> $ ls -l 10:33:49 <peter1138> total 0 10:33:49 <peter1138> $ ls -l 10:33:49 <peter1138> total 0 10:33:56 <peter1138> OH FFS DOUBLE PASTING :( 10:33:57 <peter1138> so 10:34:00 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 10:34:09 <peter1138> $ du -h 10:34:09 <peter1138> 17M . 10:34:13 <peter1138> lovely :p 10:34:18 <peter1138> 17M of empty directory :D 10:36:09 <SmatZ> hehe :) 10:36:27 <SmatZ> somebody hide porn there 10:36:31 <SmatZ> not much of it though 10:37:15 <peter1138> SmatZ, hehe, same directory where /bin/rm complained that the argument list was too long :) 10:37:41 <SmatZ> :D 10:37:55 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:32 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:06:36 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.0.107.57] has joined #openttd 11:16:19 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:46 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.228] has joined #openttd 11:41:13 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-180.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:44:22 *** clum [~clum@92.9.250.32] has joined #openttd 11:46:36 *** fanioz_ [~fanioz@222.124.156.227] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:11 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:08:59 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4db0f82a.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:01 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 12:10:56 *** fanioz [~fanioz@222.124.156.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:11:03 *** fanioz [~fanioz@114.79.59.129] has joined #openttd 12:16:13 *** clum [~clum@92.9.250.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:19:38 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-72.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:27 *** clum [~clum@92.9.229.177] has joined #openttd 12:24:40 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:56 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:29:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 12:30:17 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75806.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:42:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75806.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:43:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75806.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:45:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21739 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#4388] (r19657): make clearing refit orders work again 12:47:45 *** kesselhaus [~kesselhau@tmo-108-48.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #openttd 12:52:54 *** perk11 [~perk11@85.175.109.180] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 12:55:20 *** welshdragon [~dragon@95.154.244.195] has joined #openttd 13:12:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-195-140.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:13:31 *** Sydney [~Sydney@host158-234-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:24:06 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:7012:d760:a1c4:a2cb] has joined #openttd 13:24:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:24:56 <Sydney> ...hello, everyone... 13:25:27 <Sydney> I'd have a question about installing openttd on debian... 13:26:06 <Sydney> ...specifically, I'd like to know if there's an automated procedure inside the game to update the nightly builds/testing versions, or compiling is needed every time... 13:27:47 <Sydney> ...in addition, I'd like to know if someone could explain me better the procedure stated at the bottom of http://wiki.openttd.org/GNU/Linux#Debian_and_Ubuntu to create a debian package... 13:27:49 <glx> no automated procedure 13:28:21 <Sydney> hi, glx...thanks for that... 13:29:18 <glx> the wiki just tells what is required to compile, not how to create a package 13:29:51 <glx> oh at the bottom of the page 13:30:01 <Sydney> at the bottom, it says "You should be able to build a Debian package from the latest source using the supplied debian directory. You can replace step 3 by this." 13:30:34 <Sydney> now, I get the meaning of the dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us command 13:31:07 <Sydney> but I do not understand what it means "This Debian directory is, conforming to OpenTTD standards, put inside the os/ directory and needs to be moved a level up first: $ mv os/debian . " 13:31:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-180.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:33:17 <Yexo> some files needed to build a package should be in debian/, but when you download the source of openttd they're not in debian/ but in os/debian/ 13:33:24 <Yexo> as such you need to move that directory up one level first 13:33:37 <glx> in our tree, it's in ROOT/os/debian, but it should be ROOT/debian 13:33:51 <glx> for dpkg-buildpackage 13:34:36 <glx> anyway you don't need to build a .deb to play 13:35:20 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-180.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 13:36:14 <Sydney> thanks to both Yexo and glx...I thought about building a .deb as I have to install it on both my desktop and my laptop, so built it in one and used the deb on the other...I have also seen there are linux generic archive of the testing...what's the use of those? 13:36:42 <Yexo> extract the archive and run it from there, no need to install them 13:36:43 <glx> you can build and make bundle 13:37:59 <glx> you can install only one version at a time, with archives you can have as many as you want :) 13:39:49 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:17 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has left #openttd [] 13:48:31 <Sydney> great...so they're like "portable versions"...just need to extract them, put the opengfx&co packages and run? 13:49:39 <glx> yes 13:50:24 <glx> and if you put grfs in .openttd/data they are shared with all versions 13:52:27 <Sydney> perfect...so, sorry if bothering again, just to be clear (I'm still a linux noob), I need to extract the package in /usr/games and create an openttd/data in my /home, or what? 13:59:34 <glx> no extract in your home 14:01:19 <Sydney> ok, so just extract the package in home...have I to create any symbolic links to the openttd? 14:01:32 <Yexo> and note it's ".openttd/data" (it starts with a dot) 14:01:45 <Yexo> no symbolic links needed 14:02:57 <Sydney> ok, you are really great, glx and Yexo...thanks infinitely for your kind help...I'll try it later and see if everything runs smoothly :) 14:04:02 <Belugas> hello 14:04:14 <Wolf01> hello sir 14:04:28 <Belugas> mister Wolf01 :) 14:11:09 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:11:45 <Wolf01> I think I could resume my thinking about the other implementation of the daylengthh patch 14:19:04 <roboboy> gnight 14:21:10 *** Sydney [~Sydney@host158-234-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 14:36:43 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 14:52:06 <Wolf01> where are the cargo payment rates defined? 14:53:53 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:01:47 <frosch123> cargo properties 10, 11, 12 and callback 39 15:02:43 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:26 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 15:07:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:10:29 <DanMacK> Hey all 15:15:49 <Lakie> Hi DanMacK 15:16:18 <DanMacK> How goes it? 15:25:22 <Lakie> Not too bad yourself? 15:28:23 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:32:55 <DanMacK> I'm here 15:40:26 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e04acb2.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 15:47:27 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:07 <kamnet> Woot! Congratulations. 15:59:58 *** OTTDmaster [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:00:06 <OTTDmaster> hello 16:01:46 <OTTDmaster> anyone? 16:01:52 <OTTDmaster> (not andythenorth) 16:02:14 <__ln___> anyone what? 16:02:22 * DanMacK watches tumbleweeds blow by 16:03:23 * OTTDmaster smacks DanMacK for the cliche 16:04:11 <OTTDmaster> Ah, Is the Lord there? 16:04:33 <OTTDmaster> Evidently not 16:05:54 * OTTDmaster still hates dc 16:14:22 <George> Hi. When a house check for other houses of the specified class, does it check houses of the current set, or houses of every house set loaded? 16:15:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.196] has joined #openttd 16:21:41 <frosch123> classes are shared accross all houses independent of the grf 16:22:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.184.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:22:35 <frosch123> hmm, no 16:22:49 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has joined #openttd 16:23:11 <frosch123> every grf has its own classes 16:26:34 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:26:43 <Nite> Hi 16:27:08 <Nite> iknow its of little use but 16:27:22 <Nite> whats with the fences beside the tracks in ottd 16:27:28 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has quit [] 16:27:39 <Nite> when do they appear, how can i swithc tem on an dof? 16:27:58 <OTTDmaster> people aren't allowed to trespass, and because they would get killed if they did 16:28:25 <OTTDmaster> Do you mind using newgrfs 16:28:34 <OTTDmaster> Transrapid track set 16:28:57 <Nite> well i play a game atm where i see no fences, is this normal? 16:29:08 <Nite> or have is withced them off by accident? 16:29:29 <OTTDmaster> what grf's do you have make a picture and show me 16:29:40 <OTTDmaster> and the transparency options menu 16:29:51 <OTTDmaster> the latter might be how you've done it 16:29:53 <Nite> grfs are nars bascost and difffernt staoins 16:30:00 <Nite> stations 16:33:03 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has joined #openttd 16:33:15 <Nite> well they are there in vanill with no grfs 16:33:57 <Nite> strange because they are usefull in crowded multiplayer games 16:34:12 <Wolf01> check the "full detail" option in the options menu 16:34:39 <Nite> i checked that 16:34:51 <Nite> must be one of the newgrfs that disables them 16:34:55 <Nite> nars2? 16:35:18 <Wolf01> it's a rail set, nothing to do with infrastructures 16:35:30 <Wolf01> the stations set maybe 16:35:37 <Nite> ECS vectors 16:36:08 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 16:36:10 <Nite> ok its jap stations and industrial stations renewal 16:36:10 <George> <frosch123> every grf has its own classes -> How can GRFs cooperate/ 16:36:20 <SmatZ> hmm anyone here is using ICQ without problems? I don't seem to be able to connect :( 16:36:29 <Nite> mom 16:36:49 <IchGuckLive> Hi all,i try to find out if there is a different on a plant 4x5tile if i go one or the other way with the station ? 16:37:01 <Nite> i connect to icq just fine 16:37:07 <Wolf01> I left ICQ about 4 years ago because I wasn't able to connect ;) 16:37:47 <Nite> icq is such an oldie ;) 16:37:48 <IchGuckLive> Wolf01: you need to update the lib-purple every 2 month 16:37:56 <SmatZ> hehe :) 16:37:58 <SmatZ> Nite: thanks :) 16:38:21 <Wolf01> I'm not on linux :) 16:38:55 <IchGuckLive> then give your self a new accound as most do every spam attack 16:39:12 <kamnet> I found out a few weeks ago that AOL sold off ICQ 16:39:13 <IchGuckLive> back to topic ?! 16:39:32 <IchGuckLive> i try to find out if there is a different on a plant 4x5tile if i go one or the other way with the station ? 16:40:24 <IchGuckLive> so one way the station influence all plant tile,the other there are 4plant tile nor on influence 16:42:22 <IchGuckLive> i do not dfind any info about that ? 16:42:47 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-84-42-201-180.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:43:56 <Nite> what is a "plant tile"? 16:44:14 <IchGuckLive> Mais 16:44:36 <Nite> sags auf deutsch 16:45:10 <IchGuckLive> Eine Frucht plantage mit 4x5 grundflÀche 16:45:41 <Nite> und was soll da der unterschied wozu sein ? ("different") 16:46:37 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:51 <IchGuckLive> wenn ich die Station so anlege das alle unter influence sind oder ist es daselbe wenn ich sie quer anlege und es bleiben 4 felder ausenvor 16:47:55 <Nite> i thinbk it is the same as long as the station accepts ore supplies cargo its ok (just one tile needed) 16:48:25 <IchGuckLive> thanks 16:48:27 <IchGuckLive> Bye 16:48:34 *** IchGuckLive [~chatzilla@88-134-59-132-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100423140709]] 16:50:39 *** OTTDmaster [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:51:47 <kamnet> Somebody tell owen that all the links on tt-forums is yellow and unreadable on the snow :D 16:51:59 * kamnet makes not to self not to lick yellow snow areas 16:57:12 <lugo> well for me the snow 's gone on the forums 16:57:20 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00:11 <kamnet> Finally disappeared for me too 17:01:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:03:23 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 17:04:48 <orudge> kamnet: you need to ctrl-f5 17:04:53 <orudge> or whatever hard refresh is in your browser 17:05:00 <orudge> but, by the sound of it, it may have happened automatically anyway 17:05:03 * orudge brb 17:07:38 <kamnet> I figured you were switching the layout back. I had that issue when you switched them up for the holiday too, Refreshing and restarting wasn't fixing it. But, oh well, all done now. :-) 17:10:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 17:10:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:10:38 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:15 *** Tennel [~Tennel@88.150.10.194] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:12:49 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Quit: dageek] 17:35:44 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:00:59 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:14:40 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:17:40 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 18:19:35 <Belugas> [11:51] * kamnet makes not to self not to lick yellow snow areas <-- apart if yellow sopt is caused by rum aspersion :) 18:22:01 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has joined #openttd 18:24:35 <planetmaker> lol 18:36:12 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:45:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21740 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) 18:45:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belarusian - 57 changes by Wowanxm 18:45:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 9 changes by arnau 18:45:51 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne 18:45:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: german - 8 changes by kaefer1993 18:45:52 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: swedish - 6 changes by spacejens 18:47:22 *** OTTDmaster [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:47:30 <OTTDmaster> hello 18:48:12 <OTTDmaster> Is the Lord here? 18:49:55 <frosch123> just highlight him? 18:50:03 <OTTDmaster> LordAro? 18:50:05 <frosch123> LordAro: LordAro LordAro LordAro LordAro LordAro 18:50:10 <OTTDmaster> lol 18:50:23 <Ammler> louder 18:50:37 <OTTDmaster> LORDARO 18:50:45 <OTTDmaster> that loud enough!?1 18:50:50 *** LordAro was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [are you here?] 18:51:24 <OTTDmaster> Evidently not 18:51:47 <frosch123> you can still send him pms to annoy even more :) 18:53:55 <OTTDmaster> I'm probably not popular with him any more... 18:53:58 <OTTDmaster> 6 pms 18:54:07 * OTTDmaster still hates dc 18:54:10 <planetmaker> omg 18:54:38 <OTTDmaster> overkill 'r' us 18:55:12 <planetmaker> piece of advice: one highlight only till there's a reply. Or each of that lines has valuable _information_ - not pointless 'blah' 18:55:30 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:55:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:55:49 <OTTDmaster> planetmaker: then kick frosch123 18:55:53 <dihedral> next thing you know is, ignored by 20 people in this channel 18:55:59 <frosch123> what, is this not #tycoon? :) 18:56:12 <dihedral> close ... 18:56:14 <planetmaker> OTTDmaster: why should I? was it you or him who was misbehaving? 18:56:24 * OTTDmaster kicks myself 18:56:28 *** OTTDmaster [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 18:56:31 *** OTTDmaster [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:56:48 <dihedral> planetmaker, shall we play that game again? ;-P 18:57:24 <planetmaker> oh, I'm still sick and quite short-tempered. So it'll be a short game 18:57:56 <dihedral> i meant the @op, @kick, @deop game 18:58:56 * Alberth gives planetmaker some hot tea with honey 18:58:57 * OTTDmaster @kicks dihedral for suggesting that game... :P 18:59:07 *** LordAro [56a754a1@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:59:15 <OTTDmaster> hello LordAro 18:59:26 <OTTDmaster> good to see yu're actually online... 18:59:39 <frosch123> hmm, i have a half glass of honey... anyone a good idea what to do with it? 18:59:53 <OTTDmaster> give it to the bees? 18:59:57 <Alberth> add tea? 19:00:02 <Belugas> put it on snow :) 19:00:14 <OTTDmaster> put it on a badger? 19:00:17 <Belugas> another yellow spot on snomw to lick 19:00:17 <frosch123> currently i can only offer rain 19:00:19 <OTTDmaster> (honey badger) 19:00:35 <Belugas> you have some cookies, frosch123? 19:00:50 <dihedral> \\zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 19:01:01 <frosch123> i had some an hour ago or so... 19:01:13 <dihedral> ... darn cat 19:01:26 *** fjb is now known as Guest3645 19:01:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFF625.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:01:39 <frosch123> dihedral: give it to eddi 19:01:57 <planetmaker> hmm.... thanks, Alberth :-) 19:02:15 <OTTDmaster> $ cat can of tuna:paws too slippery 19:02:20 <dihedral> frosch123, what does he do with cats?? 19:02:37 <OTTDmaster> cat: cannot open can of tuna:paws too slippery 19:02:48 <OTTDmaster> : P 19:03:41 <OTTDmaster> dihedral: that's what he does with cat 19:03:41 <frosch123> dihedral: i suggested him to put them in the blender, but he refused. now see, what happened to him 19:03:51 <OTTDmaster> OMG! 19:04:37 <dihedral> frosch123, that is quite mean :-P 19:04:54 <OTTDmaster> woot auto away in 6 minutes 19:05:03 <dihedral> so if it's a mean cat, tail first :-P 19:05:06 <OTTDmaster> hmmmm 19:05:30 <dihedral> OTTDmaster, is there any chance you could possibly try not to share every action and emotion with the entire channel? 19:05:47 <dihedral> pick someone like DorpsGek, he'll happily listen to your chatter 19:05:50 <dihedral> in a /query 19:06:26 <dihedral> + the nick is not helping :-P 19:07:38 * Belugas reads dihedral's last lines 19:07:38 *** OTTDmaster is now known as ZirconiumX 19:08:14 * Belugas listens to NIN - THe Becoming 19:08:24 *** Guest3645 [~frank@p5DDFDBDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:44 <dihedral> Belugas, anything new from you and your guitar? 19:08:55 <ZirconiumX> this better? 19:09:01 <dihedral> hello by the way :-) 19:09:04 * Belugas sees a hilight 19:09:16 <Belugas> well... 19:09:20 <Belugas> yes and no 19:09:44 <Belugas> peter1138 and i had a few (too few) jams lately 19:10:00 <dihedral> any recordings from that? 19:10:07 <Belugas> jsut that i did not made any extracts 19:10:10 <dihedral> ZirconiumX, time will show 19:10:19 <Belugas> and we were experimenting 19:10:29 <Belugas> i THINK something can be salvaged 19:10:39 <Belugas> you can hear peter play guitar! 19:10:52 * Belugas ends typing and resume work 19:10:55 <Belugas> blaaaaaaaa 19:11:49 * dihedral pats the whale 19:12:00 <dihedral> hope it's not too much work 19:12:14 * ZirconiumX waits patiently, and wonder why dihedral likes whales 19:12:17 * dihedral guesses that's a waste of a hope 19:12:59 * ZirconiumX pats the plane as a favour 19:14:08 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:21 <Belugas> hehehe 19:15:17 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:15:41 <dihedral> i was wondering if he always joins via mibbit 19:15:51 <dihedral> i do not want to ignore all of mibbit :-P 19:17:27 <frosch123> night 19:17:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f76f8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:26:08 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:26:51 <supermop> hello 19:27:09 <Alberth> hello 19:28:26 <supermop> How's it going, Alberth? 19:28:41 * Alberth has weekend! 19:28:57 <supermop> excellent 19:29:18 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:19 <supermop> I have to work on Saturday, so not much to look forward to there 19:30:04 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host17-232-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:30:04 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest3647 19:30:04 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 19:30:30 <Alberth> he, a Wolf01. Evening 19:32:57 <Maarten> Howdy :) 19:33:49 <Belugas> woking on weekend????? YURK!!! 19:33:55 <Belugas> I would NEVER do that 19:33:57 <Belugas> hem... 19:34:00 * Belugas shuts up 19:35:37 *** dageek [~dageek@11.74.155.90.in-addr.arpa] has quit [Quit: dageek] 19:35:59 *** Guest3647 [~wolf01@host190-236-dynamic.4-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:01 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:6cff:fe87:e49c] has joined #openttd 19:40:15 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:40:21 <andythenorth> eveninks 19:40:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 19:41:32 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:6cff:fe87:e49c] has quit [Quit: dageek] 19:42:06 <Alberth> good evening andy 19:42:22 <andythenorth> today I was working 19:42:33 <andythenorth> so there was no 'andy monologue' on #openttd 19:42:36 <supermop> hello 19:42:47 <supermop> today I am working 19:46:02 <andythenorth> this thread gets more exciting every time: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=52094 19:49:43 <supermop> facetious? 19:49:53 <Alberth> Dimme made anice suggestion imho. No idea whether it is feasible, but the idea is nice 19:50:11 <andythenorth> doesn't it need a map that is *much* bigger? 19:51:51 <Zuu> I've fiddeled a bit with a PI regulator for the buying/selling of vehicles in CluelessPlus. However my results so far were quite unstable and requires a good method of predicting what output will overflow the network. 19:52:15 <Alberth> I don't know how the path finder stores blocks 19:53:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:54:10 <Wolf01> I'm trying to make a new daylength patch instead 19:55:46 <andythenorth> can AIs click stop/go on trains? 19:56:58 <Zuu> Yes 19:57:01 *** frogonia [5c518f5b@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 19:57:08 <Zuu> AIVehicle.StartStopVehicle I think. 19:57:17 <frogonia> Hi, how to add AI to a save game ? 19:57:31 <Zuu> Raise number of AI players 19:57:38 <Zuu> and wait for an AI to start 19:57:45 <Zuu> or use the start_ai command in the console. 19:57:45 <frogonia> i have raised but no effect 19:58:03 <Zuu> By default AIs are delayd by 365 days (give or take). 19:58:29 <Zuu> If you use a really recent nightly you can change that in-game. 19:58:42 <Zuu> Otherwise pull down the console and type the start_ai command. 19:59:18 <Zuu> In the menu to the right in the toolbar at top you find an option to open the console. 19:59:30 <frogonia> i have started 20:00:03 <Zuu> Also be aware that some AIs take up to a few months before they make their first construction. 20:00:32 <Zuu> Most AIs have some kind of planing stage before they start to build. 20:00:54 <Zuu> andythenorth: http://noai.openttd.org/docs/1.0.5/classAIVehicle.html#0b0deba2e3d3ee6bb82c323e2a37d7b1 20:03:28 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 20:07:36 <frogonia> say a number of city to play ? 20:09:00 <Alberth> 5 20:11:41 *** Markavian [~Markavian@CPE-60-224-82-14.wxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:12:58 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 20:19:47 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 20:20:06 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:23 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:25:38 *** Xed_ [~Xed@adsl-ull-223-21.47-151.net24.it] has joined #openttd 20:25:41 <Xed_> hi :D 20:29:35 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:47 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:41:24 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 20:43:37 * andythenorth ponders 20:45:05 <Xaroth> 42 20:46:04 <andythenorth> nah 20:46:06 <andythenorth> not so much 20:49:04 *** frogonia [5c518f5b@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 20:49:26 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-106.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 20:56:00 <andythenorth> I'm not sure how I'd start roadtypes 20:56:21 <andythenorth> if I start with code to set tile bits etc, I can't see what it's doing 20:56:30 <andythenorth> if I start with drawing code, I have no bits to draw... 20:57:05 <Lakie> Animations on industries? 20:57:20 <andythenorth> yes, that is possible :) 20:57:27 <andythenorth> what kind of question was it? 20:57:27 <Lakie> I know 20:57:37 <Lakie> What the above was for? 20:58:10 <andythenorth> roadtypes 20:59:21 <andythenorth> I don't really understand what I'm getting into, which means I'm not scare by how difficult or boring it's going to be :) 21:00:03 <Lakie> Hehe fair enough 21:01:22 <Lakie> Should be interesting for you though. ;) 21:01:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbml] 21:02:17 <andythenorth> interesting like tooth extraction is interesting 21:02:59 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 21:03:08 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:22 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:47 <LordAro> hmmmm - judging by the logs, it seems that setting mibbit to auto-reconnect wasn't such a good idea after all :) 21:09:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 21:11:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 21:11:46 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 21:13:57 <dihedral> Maarten == Maartena on the forums? 21:14:56 <Maarten> yeah 21:15:08 <dihedral> well, hi there 21:15:09 <dihedral> :-) 21:15:37 <Maarten> hey :) 21:21:44 <dihedral> Rubidium, are the chances high that DoCommand id's will remain consecutive and not grouped like the ADMIN_PACKETs? i.e. <100 and >100 for example 21:22:43 <dihedral> out of curiosity that is ;-) 21:26:05 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF84F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:26:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:01 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 21:34:59 * fonsinchen is surprised how many coding style problems in cargodist have gone unnoticed all the time 21:35:07 <fonsinchen> I must be blind. 21:37:28 <dihedral> un-noticed or un-mentioned :-P 21:40:26 <fonsinchen> both 21:40:36 <SpComb> un-read 21:40:58 <fonsinchen> I have been cleaning the coding style for some months now, but I still find problems ... 21:42:45 <DJNekkid> guys, is it possible to return a 15 bit value for ship speeds via cb36? 21:43:15 <planetmaker> @ports 21:43:15 <DorpsGek> planetmaker: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication, UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advertise) communication (outbound), and TCP port 3978 for content service, a.k.a. BaNaNaS (outbound) 21:46:16 <andythenorth> DJNekkid: maybe, let me see 21:46:51 <andythenorth> DJNekkid: hmm 21:46:54 <andythenorth> I don't do it in fish 21:47:19 <andythenorth> I do return 15 bit value to cb15 for ships 21:47:23 <andythenorth> but that's no help :P 21:47:43 <andythenorth> why do you need a 15 bit value? How fast is this ship? 21:49:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:55:40 <SmatZ> niceeee 21:55:47 * SmatZ found box of 20 beers 21:55:53 <SmatZ> I thought those beers are empty 21:55:58 <SmatZ> but they are full 21:56:03 <SmatZ> of delicious beer! 21:56:08 <SmatZ> :) 21:56:28 * SmatZ just returned from swimming pool and is very thirsty 21:56:39 <SmatZ> also, I need to get back those calories I lost :) 22:00:33 *** clum [~clum@92.9.229.177] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:01:11 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:03:32 *** LordAro [56a754a1@ircip3.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:05:34 <fonsinchen> hmmm, beer 22:05:50 <fonsinchen> will be back in 5 minutes 22:05:55 <SmatZ> :) 22:09:48 *** _fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:42 <dihedral> SmatZ, swimming in it? :-) 22:12:07 <SmatZ> dihedral: nope :) that would be waste of it :) 22:12:26 <dihedral> can i undo local commits to a hg repo 22:12:46 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 22:13:04 <SmatZ> you should be able to do some "hg up unbroken_revision" 22:13:08 <SmatZ> or something like that 22:13:14 <andythenorth> hmm 22:13:20 <andythenorth> canals as a roadtype? 22:13:26 <andythenorth> interesting suggestionionon 22:13:39 <SmatZ> rails as a roadtype? 22:13:43 <SmatZ> interesting suggestionionon 22:13:44 <andythenorth> :P 22:13:47 <dihedral> nah - i accidentally commited a file i did not want to commit 22:13:54 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:58 <dihedral> and esp. not in that commit 22:14:08 <SmatZ> [23:14:11] <andythenorth> interesting suggestionionon <== looks like an echo :) 22:14:13 * andythenorth would actually do ng rails as a roadtype 22:14:14 <SmatZ> suggestion.. ion ... on... 22:14:27 <dihedral> nn 22:14:28 <andythenorth> no no, it's a suggestion onion 22:14:29 <dihedral> :-P 22:14:35 <SmatZ> :) 22:14:51 <kamnet> I've long thought that canals should be similar to a road type anyhow :-) 22:14:57 <dihedral> you'r mother is so ugly, she makes onions cry :-P 22:15:14 <SmatZ> dihedral: just revert to that revision and commit again, it may create different branch 22:15:29 <SmatZ> there are MANY people who know hg better than me though :) 22:16:07 <dihedral> hehe 22:16:08 <SmatZ> "you'r"... not "your", not "you're"... just use "you'r" when you are not sure :) 22:16:14 <dihedral> i do not want another head :-P 22:16:19 <dihedral> one is enough to handle :-D 22:16:23 <SmatZ> :) 22:16:37 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 22:17:04 <dihedral> sell - it has not been that many revs - i'll just do that part again :-D 22:18:29 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 22:19:01 *** clum [~clum@92.9.229.177] has joined #openttd 22:19:06 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:20:11 <andythenorth> good night 22:20:11 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has left #openttd [] 22:20:49 * SmatZ sells dihedral 22:21:15 <dihedral> s/sell/well/ :P 22:22:01 * SmatZ wells dihedral 22:22:26 <SmatZ> http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/052009/small_well%20well%20well.jpg :) 22:23:28 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 22:23:43 <dihedral> hehe :-) 22:24:30 * SmatZ should watch A Clockwork Orange again 22:26:06 <dihedral> i think i've never seen it 22:26:11 *** _fonsinchen is now known as fonsinchen 22:26:14 <SmatZ> nice movie :) 22:28:30 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:30:25 <Wolf01> question about daylength: if a vehicle can earn 4 times the ammount of money but running costs remains the same, who cares? we already have it for aircrafts 22:31:13 <SpComb> I don't 22:32:21 <dihedral> usually it's the other way round, we have stuff for everything just not for planes 22:32:28 <dihedral> e.g. traffic lights, tunnels, bridges ..... 22:32:29 <dihedral> :-P 22:33:24 <fonsinchen> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1635 22:33:46 <fonsinchen> This is what happens if you load PSG 199 into cargodist :) 22:33:51 <supermop> looks like a good game 22:34:32 <fonsinchen> Amazingly it doesn't hang. 22:36:24 <fonsinchen> However, it doesn't do anything meaningful either as those (non-existing) orders are really nondeterministic. 22:36:36 <supermop> hm 22:42:07 <Wolf01> anhother question: if a vehicle earns 50 times the money and running costs remains the same? 22:47:41 <SmatZ> aircraft are just too profitable even with planespeed 1/4 22:47:42 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0ce3b3.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47:48 <SmatZ> (the default set) 22:48:22 <Wolf01> but trains aren't now 22:49:00 * SmatZ has never tested any daylength patch 22:50:00 *** Vitus [~chatzilla@138.194.wms.cz] has joined #openttd 22:50:55 <Wolf01> I can repay the whole borrow in 5 days with a single bus between 2 cities at 20 tiles and have enough money to purchase an aircraft in 8 days 22:51:12 <SmatZ> cheatz0r 22:51:18 <Wolf01> no, daylength 22:51:25 <SmatZ> cheatz0r 22:51:30 <Wolf01> one of its problems 22:51:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:50 <SmatZ> once that problem is solved, daylength can be included in OpenTTD 22:52:13 <SmatZ> (I think the total breakage of economy was one of, and the most important, arguments against it) 22:53:36 <Wolf01> it can be easily solved in 2 ways: don't care about big money$$$ like we do for aircrafts or raise all the costs to balance the incomes, but then the running costs does not match the yearly grf cost (but with variable running costs they already don't match it) 22:54:33 <Wolf01> both solutions will affect the time to wait to be able to build new things 22:54:39 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:54:51 <Wolf01> more income means you can purchase more vehicles in less time 22:55:21 <Wolf01> higher running cost mean you are running the game slowly but trains are really fast 22:55:35 <Wolf01> or I can reduce the incomes which is the same 22:56:14 <Wolf01> a train get paid 100$/travel instead 1M$/travel 23:02:53 <Xed_> But if slowing down the duration of a day is meant to longer the time it takes to reach electric trains, for example, thus making the game longer, if the global economy slows down as well the whole thing is pointless, because it would take anyway twice the time to do the same things, the end result is the same o.o 23:03:14 <Xed_> It just takes longer xD 23:03:17 <Wolf01> the whole economy slows donw but not your bank balance 23:03:22 <Wolf01> *down 23:04:02 <Wolf01> but a bus can visit 20 times two cities at day instead of each one every 15 days 23:05:16 <Xed_> Yes but if the earns are reduced by the same amount, in the end after a year the total outcome is the same 23:05:45 <Wolf01> yes, but you need to wait more real time to be able to purchase things 23:06:23 <Wolf01> always 200 days in game, but 3 hours instead of 40 minutes in real time 23:06:51 <Wolf01> (I just put some invented numbers) 23:10:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:12:17 *** kamnet [4cb171cd@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 23:13:18 <Wolf01> ok, there's a problem with automatic orders: I have 2 separate lorry stations in a loop (one for loading and one for unloading), when a vehicle from A needs to pass through B, it inserts the automatic order 23:14:27 *** zodttd2 [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:14:40 <Wolf01> I can separate the 2 ways so vehicles are forced to turn back from their previous path, but it could make traffic jams 23:20:17 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:01 <Wolf01> ah, trains to station A don't stop at station B, only pass through, so the automatic station B orser is added by mistake 23:24:34 <Xed_> If the point of slowing down days is that one, then it's consinstent :) 23:25:03 <Xed_> Of course a sane person wouldn't make it so that 1 day ingame lasts 1 real day :D 23:25:43 <Xed_> 4 times the duration would already be reasonable, maybe more is too much 23:25:59 <Wolf01> Rubidium? 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