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00:04:04 *** enr1x [~kiike@95.23.103.223] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:05:30 *** z-MaTRiX [~matrix@coming.soon.it] has joined #openttd 00:05:32 <z-MaTRiX> hey-ho 00:06:12 <SmatZ> evening z-MaTRiX 00:07:51 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11:58 <Mazur> Eve ning, SmatZ. 00:13:40 * Mazur remembers a time when any mention of a Web item made me simply look it up. 00:14:13 <Mazur> Innocent times, happy times. 00:15:13 <SmatZ> hello Mazur 00:15:33 <SmatZ> still happens to me 00:15:46 <SmatZ> I click like 90% of links that appear at IRC 00:16:47 <peter1138> aw damn 00:16:52 <peter1138> it's not picking the best path :S 00:16:56 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-29.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:17:09 <SmatZ> perhaps your heurictic is wrong? 00:17:23 <Mazur> Yeah, trains are stubborn little fellas. 00:17:25 <SmatZ> eg. h(x) is greater than the actual cost? 00:17:36 <peter1138> nope 00:17:52 <SmatZ> strange :( 00:18:46 <peter1138> well, i don't think so, heh 00:19:03 <peter1138> it's just sqrtf(x*x+y*y+z*z) 00:19:07 <Yexo> try with h(x)=0 00:19:18 * SmatZ just wanted to say that :) 00:19:28 <Yexo> should work, although you lose all advantages A* has over normal dijkstra 00:24:57 <peter1138> hmm 00:25:04 <peter1138> changed it to manhatten, and it works better 00:25:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:28:14 <ccfreak2k> peter1138, what is that? 00:28:17 <ccfreak2k> It looks familiar. 00:28:32 <ccfreak2k> Pythagorean theorum? 00:28:36 <peter1138> yeah 00:30:12 <__ln__> no imperial variant of it? 00:30:36 <Mazur> The distance as the spider makes its line. 00:31:12 <Mazur> Quite independant of the units used. 00:31:21 <Mazur> Or is tha not what you meant? 00:32:51 <peter1138> hmm 00:32:56 <peter1138> maybe being 3D is stumping it :S 00:35:21 <Mazur> Most space tends to be it, though. 00:35:24 <Mazur> As far as we know. 00:36:13 <SmatZ> [01:19:50] <peter1138> it's just sqrtf(x*x+y*y+z*z) <== to improve performance, you could compare g(x)*g(x)+x*x+y*y+z*z instead of g(x)+sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z) 00:36:41 <SmatZ> (useless comment of the minute) 00:37:31 <SmatZ> hmm 00:37:34 <SmatZ> also... 00:37:41 <SmatZ> it may be wrong 00:37:46 * SmatZ better goes away 00:37:48 <SmatZ> nn 00:39:46 <Mazur> Calculations like that may go wrong if you ignore the possibility of the argument between the brackets overflowing an integer and it does. 00:40:05 <Mazur> vmstat used top do that, until I fixed it. 00:40:38 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 00:42:09 <Mazur> Happened if you left it running for x days, forgot what x was. Then 100*interval overflowed te integer they used for calculations/. 00:43:41 <Mazur> 2³²/100 seconds. 00:43:42 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 00:47:44 <Mazur> Or was it ticks? Or centiseconds. 00:47:53 <Mazur> I' 00:47:59 <Mazur> I''ve forgotten. 00:51:08 <peter1138> hmm, well, it uses the tunnels 00:51:53 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 01:00:05 <peter1138> ok, gotta have a bug somewhere :s 01:00:12 <peter1138> probably all over it, hehe 01:02:53 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/pics/badpath.jpg <-- follow the red mushrooms... 01:03:54 <peter1138> (for that is what they are) 01:09:37 *** dfox [~dfox@e22.dkm.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:13:26 <peter1138> Mazur, coordinates are up to about 2000 max 01:13:44 <peter1138> it doesn't overflow :) 01:16:42 <Mazur> Just thoughtr I'd mention it. 01:17:53 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:35 <Ylioppilas> I should sneak in my sister's room and steal her mouse :( 01:18:47 <Ylioppilas> playing on trackpad is frustrating :D 01:22:22 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.50.197] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3] 01:39:57 *** Progman 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02:24:17 <peter1138> gah, more odd paths :( 02:36:38 <peter1138> well, i dunno 02:36:53 <peter1138> i don't know if my algorithm is messed up, or if it's just the costs 02:38:01 <peter1138> i get the best path by discounting height 02:38:28 <peter1138> but then it has difficulties with reaching some things 02:39:13 <peter1138> if it's underneath the point then the cost becomes 0 02:42:09 *** clum` [~clum@92.8.121.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:01:07 <glx> A* doesn't like negative costs 03:07:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> you could say "A* totally fails with negative costs" 03:07:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 03:07:42 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:42 <peter1138> who said it's negative? 03:14:43 *** Chruker [~no@87-104-39-161-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk] has quit [] 03:43:21 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:55df:1727:d924:e146] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:52:04 <peter1138> ok 03:52:10 <peter1138> it works better when the algorithm is correct 04:22:57 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480561.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 04:23:18 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480561.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 04:39:06 <peter1138> except it's now really slow 04:39:41 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 04:46:00 <peter1138> it's like ships, except nearly every node is traversible :p 04:50:11 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.16.78] has joined #openttd 05:02:33 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:06:41 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76BB7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76069.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:30:27 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:42:12 *** Su2zuki [Su2zuki@c-68-44-246-23.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:44:50 *** Markavian 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Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:46:39 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:35 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:55:12 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.16.78] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:28 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16:48 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 08:25:29 <peter1138> hm 08:33:58 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:51:22 *** [Xed] [~Xed@158.110.153.126] has joined #openttd 08:52:31 <planetmaker> good morning 08:58:28 <SmatZ> hello planetmaker 08:58:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:25 *** [Xed] [~Xed@158.110.153.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:00:41 <planetmaker> hey SmatZ :-) 09:11:27 *** Chrill 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#openttd 09:57:29 <peter1138> so it was quite fast when the algorithm was wrong :p 09:58:33 *** DayDreamer1 [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 10:01:27 <planetmaker> shit. we got desyncs on the beta3 - server again :-( 10:02:13 <peter1138> :S 10:03:29 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A0D2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:05:17 *** DarthShrine [~angus@60-242-109-62.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 10:05:32 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host66-236-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:05:44 <Wolf01> hello 10:07:26 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-79.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 10:11:01 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-22-19.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 10:12:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.190.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-86-57.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:28:44 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 10:32:04 *** DayDreamer1 [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:32:34 <DJNekkid> can anyone familiar with nfo see how they read this code? as far as i can see should it do what the comments say, but ingame wont it autoselect 10:32:48 <DJNekkid> http://pastie.org/1447847 10:33:25 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 10:44:54 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:52:39 <peter1138> hmm, well, changed the closed list to a hash and it fails ;D 10:53:01 <peter1138> ahh, lol, i forgot to include z in the hash :p 10:56:49 *** inji [~inji@217-209-1-220-no145.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:58:54 <peter1138> yay, works perfectly 10:59:00 <peter1138> and about 5 million times faster 11:06:20 *** LordAro [d92b6a8e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 11:12:53 <peter1138> hm 11:19:58 <planetmaker> DJNekkid, looking at that code: don't modify a user parameter. It has pitfalls. Better introduce an internal parameter for such things 11:21:21 <DJNekkid> im not sure if i follow 11:23:35 <DJNekkid> but either way, im gonna take a nap now (im on strong painkillers). bak in about 2hrs 11:24:05 <planetmaker> I can only recommend you my code I wrote for OpenGFX+Trains. 11:24:37 <planetmaker> Which I adopted also for HEQS, so there it is found in NFO 11:25:00 <planetmaker> setting the running and purchase costs based on parameter and / or available (other) newgrfs 11:25:57 <peter1138> hmm, now... how to handle doors... 11:26:10 <peter1138> and allow for traversing through water... hmm... 11:26:40 <peter1138> water means 26 possible directions, hurr 11:27:02 <peter1138> and drowning, heh 11:27:12 <peter1138> ok, maybe allow swimming :D 11:27:21 <peter1138> on the surface that is 11:28:12 * planetmaker wonders why peter1138 gives us here a live feed on mine craft programming adventures... 11:29:26 <peter1138> wait until i do a fully 3d map for ottd... 11:29:42 <planetmaker> :-) 11:30:15 <peter1138> and also because my minecraft server users haven't the foggiest idea on anything like programming let alone algorithms, heh 11:32:05 *** clum [~clum@92.8.121.51] has joined #openttd 11:36:26 *** burkek [4e54c295@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 11:37:43 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:37:54 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 11:46:49 <__ln__> @seen Bjarni 11:46:49 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 45 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 21 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <Bjarni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wVADKznOhY <-- wtf. Some rich guy built a trebuchet and uses burning pianos as ammo 11:46:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.50.197] has joined #openttd 11:51:18 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 11:55:46 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:39 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:14 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-79.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:14:50 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 12:23:24 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-79.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 12:37:39 *** Maarten_ [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:42 *** Maarten [~duchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:40:49 <planetmaker> oh, ChillCore made a wonderful argument, I'll remember that: "Yes, in real life that can happen and does happen but in real life you can not adjust the daylength factor." 12:55:28 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d9a7:bdf5:3be9:bde3] has joined #openttd 12:55:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:57:13 <Ammler> planetmaker: can you fix that? 12:59:13 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:59:55 <Ammler> sometimes, the rl should be changed like the game and not always change the game for realism 13:00:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f44b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:04:57 <planetmaker> I shall have a look at that 13:07:30 <peter1138> hehehe 13:14:59 <V453000> guess I should not comment on realism in game :p 13:16:25 * Lakie thinks people forget that they (people) often escape to games as a repreive from reality... 13:20:42 * planetmaker agrees with Lakie 13:21:00 <planetmaker> and waves 'hello' to him and frosch123 13:21:08 <Lakie> Heh, hi planetmaker 13:21:32 <frosch123> afternoon everyone .) 13:21:55 <Lakie> Hi frosch123. 13:42:56 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-79.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:40 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.16.78] has joined #openttd 14:04:29 <Belugas> hello 14:05:00 <Belugas> V453000, no, indeed, you should not :) 14:05:07 <Belugas> and you'd better not! 14:05:23 <V453000> hm? 14:06:44 <Belugas> [08:14] <V453000> guess I should not comment on realism in game :p <-- that 14:06:50 <V453000> yes, why not :) 14:07:11 <Belugas> because it's useless and leading nowhere 14:08:25 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has joined #openttd 14:09:00 <Lakie> And ruins fun 14:09:01 <V453000> we could agree on that if such realistic things werent added :p 14:09:37 <Belugas> nice try 14:09:57 *** LordAro [d92b6a8e@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 14:10:59 <Belugas> my realism sucks. when i came in, last night, my wife and my kid were sobbing over the lifeless body of our old fatefull 27" sony triniton tv 14:11:03 <Belugas> that sucks. 14:11:19 <Belugas> so i prefer to play non realistic openttd 14:11:43 <Belugas> or use my brand new soldering iron. 14:12:07 <V453000> well my realism doesnt suck but I am stronly against bending openttd to look more realistic :p so lets say we agree 14:12:47 <Belugas> yeah! 14:14:36 <Belugas> mmh... yet another certification regression test plan to start 14:23:00 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 14:23:50 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:29:39 *** ujjain [~ujjain@168-99.kg.ftth.internl.net] has joined #openttd 14:33:02 <Rubidium> V453000: but OpenTTD is extremely realistic; it is a perfect match for its universe. How can a model be any more realistic than being exactly the same as the universe it tries to model? 14:34:19 <ujjain> cool, Dutch documentation! 14:35:21 <ujjain> is openttd hard to learn? 14:36:57 <burkek> one evening to learn, lifetime to master 14:37:48 <ujjain> hehe :) Everything advantage has a disadvantage? 14:38:08 <Belugas> and it depends on what you want to learn 14:38:13 <Belugas> code or game? 14:38:19 <Belugas> grf or signals? 14:38:52 <ujjain> game! :) 14:38:59 <ujjain> grf / signals < don't know what that is 14:42:38 <Belugas> then, it is not important for now ;) 14:45:53 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 14:46:51 <DanMacK> Hey all 14:52:30 <Belugas> hey sir 14:59:45 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 15:03:24 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 15:03:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:06:11 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:44 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07:30 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:37 <supermop> good morning 15:07:57 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has joined #openttd 15:10:45 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:48 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 15:10:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:13:31 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:32 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 15:13:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 15:18:50 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has left #openttd [] 15:20:12 <DanMacK> Issues Belugas? 15:21:04 <Belugas> bank processing test, need to break connetion 15:21:09 <Belugas> i think i'll quit for now... 15:21:11 <Belugas> bye 15:21:32 <DanMacK> heh 15:21:34 <DanMacK> later 15:25:52 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:30:37 *** Mortomes|Work [~MortomesW@mail.qps.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:48 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:45 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:52 <ZirconiumX> hello 15:35:22 <ZirconiumX> hello LordAro 15:36:12 *** Wilberforce [~wilberfor@83.170.81.66] has left #openttd [] 15:37:12 *** Wilberforce [~wilberfor@83.170.81.66] has joined #openttd 16:05:43 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:47 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [] 16:15:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A0D2.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6A0D2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:19:23 *** burkek [4e54c295@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 16:21:33 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.194.149] has joined #openttd 16:31:31 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has joined #openttd 16:32:50 *** Fixer [~Fixer@91.202.128.79] has left #openttd [] 16:40:18 *** Dan [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has joined #openttd 16:40:42 *** Dan is now known as DanM 16:41:02 * DanM waits for his alter-ego to ping out 16:41:44 <Ammler> /msg nickserv ghost|regain 16:42:37 *** DanMacK is now known as Guest4037 16:42:38 *** DanM is now known as DanMacK 16:42:44 <DanMacK> Cool, TY 16:42:56 <LordAro> Ammler: fail? 16:44:02 <Ammler> fail what? 16:44:45 <LordAro> ignore me... 16:46:11 <LordAro> i thought it was a password, and i didn't read the bit above :) 16:46:29 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: frosch * r21768 /trunk/src/tilearea.cpp: -Fix [FS#4396]: Diagonal tile iterator needed a special case for A * 0 selections. 16:47:18 *** Guest4037 [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:01 *** hello [gueb@93.182.135.49] has joined #openttd 16:53:32 <hello> hi 16:53:41 <hello> take a look at these 16:53:53 <hello> http://tinyurl.com/65hn9dn 16:54:04 *** hello [gueb@93.182.135.49] has quit [] 16:54:20 <ZirconiumX> DON'T 16:54:24 * DanMacK 's bot-detector goes haywire 16:54:35 <ZirconiumX> It contains a virus 16:55:01 * ZirconiumX thanks Mozilla for the download prompt 16:56:06 <LordAro> well, "OPENSKY Connection Manager.exe" doesn't exactly sound too good, does it? 16:59:25 <ZirconiumX> I think the program's a trojan 17:00:57 <ZirconiumX> goodbye hello 17:03:53 <glx> yeah spam in PM too 17:04:11 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 17:04:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 17:04:21 <ZirconiumX> hello Belugas 17:04:31 <Wolf01> hello Belugas 17:04:33 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d823866.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:04:35 <SmatZ> I reported him at #oftc, he should be banned now 17:05:22 <Belugas> hi guys :) 17:05:24 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has joined #openttd 17:05:26 <SmatZ> hello Belugas 17:05:32 <Belugas> certif execution is finished 17:05:40 <Belugas> got to grab the results now 17:05:41 <Belugas> booo 17:10:35 * ZirconiumX sighes 17:10:40 <ZirconiumX> *sighs 17:14:13 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has joined #openttd 17:20:07 *** KouDy [~KouDy@245.40.49.60.kmr01-home.tm.net.my] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:04 *** verm__ [~verm@twilight.darkbeer.org] has joined #openttd 17:26:31 <verm__> TrueBrain: so i used your linux->osx cross-build instructions and got it working 17:26:42 <verm__> with the latest compiler from apple 17:26:43 <verm__> thanks. 17:26:48 <TrueBrain> yw 17:27:00 <TrueBrain> nice to know stuff still works 17:27:09 <verm__> well... 17:27:26 <verm__> almost nothing works in that document but the commandlines were helpful :) 17:27:32 <TrueBrain> hahaha :D 17:27:39 <TrueBrain> it has been written 2 years ago .. :) 17:27:42 <verm__> yeah i know 17:28:02 <TrueBrain> but yeah, principles should hold :) 17:28:05 <verm__> some of your patches got applied upstream at odctools 17:28:19 <TrueBrain> ah, yeah, they told me :) 17:28:34 <verm__> they updated ld64 which broke things (a lot of missing headers) 17:28:39 <TrueBrain> for some reason my page became really popular, and I still wonder why .... 17:28:46 <verm__> the latest compiler has several issues 17:28:57 <verm__> which i fixed.. now it works fine 17:29:08 <TrueBrain> issues like? 17:29:10 <verm__> TrueBrain: well i'm only using this for tinderbox purposes 17:29:24 <TrueBrain> tinderbox? 17:30:10 <verm__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinderbox_%28software%29 17:30:18 <verm__> better explanation than i could give i suppose 17:30:33 <TrueBrain> ah, ic 17:30:53 <verm__> i use my mac for other things and didn't want builds running on it 17:31:01 <verm__> http://buildbot.aegisub.org/waterfall <-it will soon show up here 17:31:57 <TrueBrain> I still wonder why so few people wrote documentation about OSX cross compiling ... 17:32:02 <TrueBrain> guess because OSX sucks :D :D 17:33:37 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 17:34:56 <TrueBrain> (I have a mac myself, but ssstttt) 17:35:49 <planetmaker> verm__, maybe you write an updated version? 17:39:53 *** [Xed] [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has joined #openttd 17:41:17 <verm__> planetmaker: yeah i considered it, i may do that eventually when i un-lazy myself 17:41:54 <verm__> i only use unix myself (freebsd/solaris etc) 17:41:59 <TrueBrain> imagine if I did that with the documentation, being lazy :D 17:42:04 <verm__> i've got a few linux vms, a windows machine and osx for development o nly 17:42:17 <verm__> well software documentation is different than writing a walkthrough :) 17:46:54 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@2.124.175.116] has joined #openttd 17:48:11 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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You can find 'sample.cat' on your Transport Tycoon Deluxe CD-ROM. 18:36:47 <mbruins_> is dont not have that cd 18:36:54 <mbruins_> can i leech the file somewhere or will that be illegal? 18:37:00 <ZirconiumX> Just a minute 18:37:07 <ZirconiumX> It is abandonware 18:37:19 <SmatZ> please don't distribute illegal stuff here 18:37:21 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF857E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:37:23 <mbruins_> could you explain 'abandonware'? 18:37:29 <KenjiE20> ttdlx isn't abandonware 18:37:31 <mbruins_> SmatZ: did not know that was illegal 18:37:45 <SmatZ> mbruins_: you can download opensfx, opengfx and openmsx 18:37:49 <KenjiE20> OpenTTD has the option to get OpenXFS/no sound 18:37:55 <KenjiE20> SFX* 18:37:57 <SmatZ> if you have windows installer, it even asks you if you want to download them 18:38:12 <mbruins_> i try to run openttd on debian 18:38:25 <ZirconiumX> hmmmm 18:38:26 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:38:27 <KenjiE20> touch ~/.sample.cat 18:38:31 <KenjiE20> I think should do it 18:38:45 <KenjiE20> sorry ~/.openttd/sample.cat 18:38:46 <mbruins_> sadly no 18:38:49 <SmatZ> http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/extra/index.html you can download it here 18:38:57 <SmatZ> maybe there are better ways though :) 18:39:08 <planetmaker> without "cz." 18:39:27 <SmatZ> well, readme.txt says what should be done :) 18:39:40 <mbruins_> hm alright i quess i need to read moer 18:39:42 <mbruins_> more 18:39:44 <mbruins_> thanks so far guys 18:39:57 <planetmaker> mbruins_: you should not need a sample.cat 18:40:06 <planetmaker> Use the free laternative 18:40:18 <planetmaker> s/la/al/ 18:40:56 <planetmaker> use as sound set either NoSound or get OpenSFX from http://www.openttd.org/download-opensfx 18:41:24 <planetmaker> KenjiE20: that trick no longer works. As it's not needed to work. 18:42:35 <ZirconiumX> :( 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translators * r21769 /trunk/src/lang/ (latvian.txt serbian.txt swedish.txt): 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: latvian - 21 changes by dzhins 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: serbian - 8 changes by etran 18:45:38 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: swedish - 2 changes by Ledel 18:46:20 <mbruins_> planetmaker: ty 18:46:48 *** mbruins_ [~user@5ED3D892.cm-7-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:51:07 *** ZirconiumX [561b9bc6@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:51:31 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:10:59 * Rubidium wonders what version mbruins was using; sounds like 0.6 era ;) 19:14:35 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:39 <SmatZ> may be :) 19:17:04 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC53BC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:18:01 *** ujjain [~ujjain@168-99.kg.ftth.internl.net] has quit [] 19:23:45 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:37:50 *** LordAro [d92b6a8e@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 19:51:55 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has joined #openttd 19:58:24 *** [Xed] [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:01:07 *** [Xed]__ [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has joined #openttd 20:01:08 *** [Xed]__ is now known as [Xed] 20:01:08 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:02:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B6A8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 20:07:42 *** nicfer [~nicfer@190.50.16.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:25 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has left #openttd [Als het zó moet...] 20:15:36 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... the civ5-way of preventing cache-desyncs: upon joining of one player, all players reload the game... 20:21:47 <supermop> haha 20:22:31 <dihedral> oi 20:22:50 <SpComb> restart your worker process every 1000 requests to avoid memory leaks 20:23:03 <SpComb> *fix 20:23:12 <SmatZ> uh 20:23:20 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has joined #openttd 20:23:45 <dihedral> i had something for you with regards to apache, but i totally forgot - some setting regarding 'mutex'-something 20:23:50 <dihedral> i think 20:24:48 <dihedral> it resulted in apache services often requireing restarts due to not anymore accepting connections for some reason i have forgotten right now, to not be needed anymore 20:26:00 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba90d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:28:48 *** [Xed] [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:39 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:19 *** [Xed]__ [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has joined #openttd 20:37:20 *** [Xed]__ is now known as [Xed] 20:40:25 *** jpm [~pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has joined #openttd 20:40:25 *** jpm_ [~pekka@kone.suomen4g.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:25 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40:43 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:43 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:43 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has joined #openttd 20:40:43 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:40:43 *** George|2 [~George@212.113.107.39] has joined #openttd 20:40:43 *** George is now known as Guest4063 20:40:44 *** George|2 is now known as George 20:42:04 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-104-249.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:43:27 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 20:43:53 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:03 *** Guest4063 [~George@212.113.107.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:18 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:49 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF857E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:19 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has joined #openttd 20:52:54 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:58:13 *** [Xed] [~Xed@151.59.15.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:09 <Rubidium> fonsinchen: in case "Transfer: X / Income: Y" is shown, and you're zoomed out one level you get "Transfer: X" instead 21:03:43 <Rubidium> that's quite noticable as the "Transfer: X" is in big letters whereas the other floaters are all small 21:04:25 <Rubidium> so you're missing a string; looking at the diff you're actually missing two strings 21:05:04 <Rubidium> "TINY" versions of STR_FEEDER_INCOME and STR_FEEDER_COST 21:07:54 <fonsinchen> oh 21:08:06 <fonsinchen> Thanks, I'll take care of that. 21:08:09 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:14:36 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has left #openttd [] 21:26:30 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-117.dslextreme.com] has joined #openttd 21:32:51 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:34:40 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72090b.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:41 *** einKarl [~einKarl@77-23-166-116-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:36 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dba90d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:09 <Wolf01> 'night 21:44:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host66-236-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:44:56 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:46:19 *** Keiya [kyevan@thay.Stanford.EDU] has joined #openttd 21:47:21 <Keiya> Has anyone hacked signals to show 'danger' when there's no train in front of it? 21:47:58 <SmatZ> PBS are red by default 21:47:58 <Terkhen> hi Keiya 21:48:07 <SmatZ> only when train approaches, it turns green 21:48:10 <SmatZ> if there is a way 21:48:16 <Keiya> (Similar to how real train signals (and road traffic signals, and alarms in factories, and...) default to the 'danger' sign) 21:48:40 <SmatZ> signals in OpenTTD are either green or red 21:49:03 <Keiya> SmatZ: Yeah, that's basically the right visual behavior. I was just wondering if anyone'd hacked it onto the normal signals so I can get the effect without the nastyness of PBS-everywhere 21:49:28 <SmatZ> nope 21:49:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@cpc9-aztw25-2-0-cust133.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:49:33 <SmatZ> it wouldn't be that easy to do 21:49:37 <planetmaker> Keiya: that's not really possible, unless you just re-draw the graphics 21:49:48 <SmatZ> eg. pathfinders look at the state of signal 21:49:51 <supermop> i wouldn't call pbs nasty... 21:49:54 <planetmaker> it'd mean they never show green, though 21:49:58 <SmatZ> :) 21:49:59 <Terkhen> can't you code it as a newgrf that just switches the red-green sprites? 21:50:03 <SmatZ> hehe 21:50:20 <planetmaker> Terkhen: rather red and red ;-) 21:50:42 <Keiya> supermop: PBS is nice when you need it, but using it everywhere tends to lead to weird network bugs, in my experience. 21:50:52 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 21:51:54 <Keiya> Ah well. It's not like I spend most of my time staring at signals anyway. 21:52:16 <supermop> network bugs? 21:52:44 <supermop> ive never had a problem, even in complex systems 21:53:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:11 <Keiya> It's probably caused as much by my bad building as PBS, just I can force things a little more with traditional signals :P 21:55:21 *** [Xed]__ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has joined #openttd 21:55:45 *** clum [~clum@92.8.121.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:56:00 *** [Xed]__ is now known as [Xed] 21:57:17 *** clum [~clum@92.8.121.51] has joined #openttd 21:58:36 *** SgobbiT [~sgobbit@host9-36-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:58:57 *** SgobbiT [~sgobbit@host9-36-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has left #openttd [] 22:01:07 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:20 *** perk11 [~perk11@178.34.0.218] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:01:37 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:03:55 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has joined #openttd 22:05:26 *** [Xed] [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:34 *** fmauneko [~fmauneko@88.166.241.226] has quit [Quit: fmauneko] 22:15:55 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-213-220-225-85.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:19:38 <Terkhen> good night 22:19:59 <supermop> good night 22:33:03 *** DDR [~DDR@66.183.113.224] has joined #openttd 22:35:13 *** goblin [~goblin@krlh-5f72090b.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #openttd [] 22:35:42 *** Adambean` [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 22:48:03 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:54:25 *** [Xed]_ [~Xed@151.59.12.151] has left #openttd [] 23:04:43 *** inji [~inji@217-209-1-220-no145.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:18 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:22:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AA0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:27 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:36:20 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 23:39:23 <George> frosch123: Could you have a look at FS#4399 ? 23:39:28 <George> Would it be hard? 23:42:42 <frosch123> can you post some examples what stuff can be archieved with that? 23:50:32 <George> The reson to do that is that when I create ARV I can use only first 128 IDs 23:51:12 *** xiong [~xiong@netblock-72-25-106-117.dslextreme.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:19 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:53:30 <George> bit 7 would mean flip 23:54:27 <George> So, when I ran out of 128 IDs I had to use IDs below 128 to represent the graphics of several vehicles 23:55:12 <George> But I can't get information what graphics to use, because I do not know the ID of the previous part 23:55:30 <George> because it is a wagon, the ID of the train is useless 23:55:44 *** jonty-comp is now known as Everyone 23:56:02 *** Everyone is now known as jonty-comp 23:57:14 <frosch123> so you are basically heading for the first articulated part 23:58:04 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:59:46 <frosch123> night 23:59:49 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f44b8.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]