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00:00:20 <z-MaTRiX_> :) 00:00:27 <z-MaTRiX_> actually im taking adventage of it 00:00:34 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC490B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 00:00:54 *** enr1x [~kiike@84.228.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:02:26 <z-MaTRiX_> and yes its faster in response in many cases 00:02:35 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 00:09:10 *** supermop_ [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop_] 00:11:01 *** SirSquidness [~sirsquidn@zomg.dongues.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:22 <planetmaker> RT is not about fast response either ;-) 00:11:48 <planetmaker> it's rather about accuracy of timing 00:13:57 *** Kejhic [user@jklamo-103.jmnet.cz] has joined #openttd 00:14:47 <z-MaTRiX_> and preemtion 00:14:51 <z-MaTRiX_> btw 00:15:23 <z-MaTRiX_> why does control click on a train view following goes so sadly? 00:15:45 <z-MaTRiX_> though i can rightclick scroll and follow the train smooth 00:15:52 <z-MaTRiX_> with mouse 00:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause> likely scrolling knows that it can copy most of the area, while train movement has to redraw the complete window 00:18:24 <z-MaTRiX_> :( oh 00:19:21 <z-MaTRiX_> so 00:19:39 <z-MaTRiX_> rt preemtion is a must for cnc machine control 00:19:51 <z-MaTRiX_> because of the timing accuracy 00:20:03 <z-MaTRiX_> and for gapless audio too 00:20:41 <z-MaTRiX_> planetmaker: so using an rt kernel will not improve response time ? 00:21:00 <planetmaker> not in general 00:21:09 <z-MaTRiX_> lets say you have a firefox hung and eating all cpu time 00:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause> z-MaTRiX_: he didn't say it doesn't have its advantages 00:21:32 <planetmaker> it's not about response time. It's about making sure that a certain process gets control guaranteed at a given time 00:21:57 <z-MaTRiX_> so its about response time too no? 00:22:06 <planetmaker> but a RT system won't do that either if you put too much load on it 00:22:15 <z-MaTRiX_> if we define response as i click on window and waiting it to be selected 00:22:16 <planetmaker> then it will fail just as well 00:23:15 <Eddi|zuHause> z-MaTRiX_: in certain situations it might improve response time, but on average, it will be slower 00:23:39 <planetmaker> indeed. Due to scheduling overhead 00:23:42 <Eddi|zuHause> z-MaTRiX_: like every situation where firefox does not eat 100% of your cpu 00:23:54 <z-MaTRiX_> :) 00:24:08 <z-MaTRiX_> ack that 00:24:43 <z-MaTRiX_> willing to ogive 9% cpu time for that special case 00:25:01 <z-MaTRiX_> ok closer to 5% 00:27:43 <planetmaker> RT IMHO only makes sense in things like http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/de/nid/208834 - otherwise it's mostly a toy and waste of electricity 00:28:04 *** Kejhic [user@jklamo-103.jmnet.cz] has left #openttd [] 00:28:42 <z-MaTRiX_> for cnc control a 666MHz intel p3 is fair 00:30:10 <planetmaker> but not for RT synchronization of two 2000fps camera heads with an 32-channel analogue IO and a 32 channel digital IO card ;-) 00:30:25 <z-MaTRiX_> well 00:31:06 <z-MaTRiX_> for that i would go for some FPGA, or a new amd cpu 00:31:10 <planetmaker> where one really needs to know what happens _concurrently_ 00:31:48 <planetmaker> more work than worth the effort. 00:33:25 *** 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quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16:22 *** rellig [~rellig@vs1191017.vserver.de] has joined #openttd 10:18:24 <V453000> elo :) 10:19:19 <andythenorth> V453000: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/1981 10:19:46 <V453000> I know, I am getting notifications :) good, we will test it when the 0.6.x comes 10:21:08 <andythenorth> coal will probably still dominate any game started in 1800s 10:21:12 <andythenorth> and oil any game in 1900s 10:21:26 <andythenorth> wood, iron and farms should be important in early games 10:22:04 <andythenorth> fund / prospecting costs come into play as well 10:22:08 <andythenorth> farms are quite cheap to build 10:22:23 <andythenorth> and food / goods pay highly 10:22:26 <V453000> :) ok 10:23:23 * andythenorth ponders an ad-hoc patch to town growth in place of newgrf towncontrol 10:24:08 <V453000> you mean different supplies would boost the town in different ways, or? :) 10:25:46 <andythenorth> food / goods boosts town yes 10:26:33 <V453000> construction things should too, imo :) 10:26:54 <V453000> wait, that is goods, right? :D 10:27:03 <V453000> played ECS not long ago -.- 10:27:27 <V453000> (declaring I am not playing it ever agai) 10:29:20 <planetmaker> that's harsh 10:31:08 <V453000> not really 10:32:50 <V453000> ECS makes no sense for networking play imo 10:34:39 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 10:35:52 *** afk [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has joined #openttd 10:39:03 <planetmaker> it might also make sense for our network way with a lot of parameter play 10:42:30 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.197.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:50 <V453000> I did apply all parameters I could have 10:44:11 <V453000> but farms fluctuating from 0 in winter to 7000 productions in summer are just way too much 10:44:58 <V453000> similar with other industries ... not really interested when each SLH looks more like a MSH when you have 2 mines and they produce like mad already in 1920 when you start in 1900 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I sometimes do music in my house 18:20:36 <Belugas> does it count? 18:20:55 <Markk> I play music in my house right now. 18:21:18 <Belugas> liar! you are typing on a keyboard 18:21:21 <Belugas> mmh... 18:21:31 <Belugas> that could count as plang music... 18:21:42 <Prof_Frink> My house can't play music. 18:21:53 <Prof_Frink> It squashed the piano. 18:22:44 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-71-247-11-232.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-71-247-11-232.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:36:59 *** supermop [~daniel_er@pool-71-247-11-232.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:25 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: bbiab] 18:45:18 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: translators * r21941 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/maltese.txt: 18:45:18 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:18 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: maltese - 22 changes by peter88823 18:46:58 <andythenorth> \ 18:48:08 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:54:50 *** straterra [~straterra@fuhell.com] has joined #openttd 18:55:00 *** straterra [~straterra@fuhell.com] has left #openttd [] 18:57:36 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbabbc6.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:38 <Belugas> ROOOOOXann 19:11:59 <supermop> you don't have to put on the red light? 19:12:22 <Belugas> I loved since i knew ya 19:17:02 <Belugas> The art of classic songs with minimal chords 19:17:39 <supermop> we've got some devo playing in the shop right now... 19:17:49 <supermop> have to say, I am happy with that 19:19:15 <supermop> i need a bass 19:21:06 <supermop> guitar, not fish 19:22:50 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r21942 /trunk/src/saveload/afterload.cpp: -Codechange: no need to convert GOINGUP/GOINGDOWN flags if they are cleared afterwards during savegame conversion 19:27:49 <andythenorth> which refinery is better? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=41607&p=928194#p928194 19:28:36 <supermop> I like without the red building 19:29:16 <supermop> it is confusing with the meat packer 19:29:17 <supermop> and 19:29:27 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host235-235-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:29:33 <Wolf01> evenink 19:29:58 <andythenorth> supermop: I tend to agree... 19:30:04 <supermop> a refinery might neet a tall, building, but not with so many floor plates 19:30:07 <Belugas> i need my guitar as well... 19:31:20 * Belugas nods at the red building too 19:33:14 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1752DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:33:27 <supermop> i am going to lunch, but i would be happy to talk about buildings further thereafter, andy 19:34:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 19:34:33 * andythenorth needs to understand bounding boxes 19:34:39 <andythenorth> how very very very dull 19:34:50 <andythenorth> FIRS has multiple errors 19:34:58 <andythenorth> sprites that flicker that shouldn't 19:35:05 <andythenorth> sprites that should animate but don't 19:35:16 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1752DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:35:31 <andythenorth> dunno if I can be arsed with that 19:35:34 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:37:21 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B1752DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:38:07 <andythenorth> heh 19:38:10 <andythenorth> stupid game: http://tt-foundry.com/misc/useful_fishing_harbours.png 19:38:12 <andythenorth> :D 19:38:48 <andythenorth> I *could* do an n tile check for water 19:39:00 <andythenorth> but it might be sub-optimal 19:39:01 <andythenorth> :P 19:39:03 <V453000> good for trains :) 19:56:20 <Prof_Frink> So... less good if you have disasters off? 19:59:03 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC41C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:03:45 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbabbc6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:01 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... civ5 is in some kind of endless loop-ish 20:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> in top it stays at 105% cpu 20:14:54 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:16:09 <andythenorth> supermop: sugar refinery building was based on rl 20:16:09 <andythenorth> http://www.gatewaynmra.org/articles/photos/rws-no-sugar.jpg 20:16:14 <andythenorth> but I don't think it's needed 20:16:18 <supermop> neat 20:17:21 <andythenorth> I reckon the brick built building is gone 20:18:38 <supermop> there are alot of amazing brick warehouse and factory building in NJ off the NEC 20:19:02 <supermop> i'll have to bring a camera next time I go down to princeton 20:19:17 <supermop> there were also a lot of good ones in st. louis 20:23:50 <supermop> i saw that you had done some work on the forge as well 20:24:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:25:30 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE385.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:12 <DJNekkid> im trying build openttd with that miscrosoft express 2008 thingy 20:27:15 <DJNekkid> but i get an error: 20:27:15 <DJNekkid> 3>z:\openttd\openttdsource\trunk\src\language.h(17) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'unicode/coll.h': No such file or directory 20:27:23 <DJNekkid> any helpful hints or tips? 20:27:34 <supermop> nope 20:29:46 <SmatZ> DJNekkid: did you get openttd-useful? 20:30:08 <DJNekkid> yes... looking at this page right here: http://wiki.openttd.org/Microsoft_Visual_C%2B%2B_2008_Express_Editions 20:30:25 <DJNekkid> oh crap 20:30:35 <SmatZ> :) 20:30:46 <DJNekkid> i've "inclided" the wrong dir 20:32:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:52 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.167.206] has joined #openttd 20:35:19 *** afk [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:36 <DJNekkid> now, lets see how it goes 20:36:37 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:42 *** Markk [~mark@rikskriminalpolisen.com] has joined #openttd 20:38:18 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6ED34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:38:42 *** IMMJR [~IMMJR@70.44.118.243.res-cmts.sefg.ptd.net] has joined #openttd 20:38:49 <IMMJR> Hi. 20:40:29 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFE385.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:48 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-73-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:47:01 <DJNekkid> ehm 20:47:07 <DJNekkid> built was successful 20:47:19 <DJNekkid> should not the .exe be in trunk/bin? 20:47:30 * SmatZ doesn't have a clue 20:47:40 <SmatZ> at least it built for you :) 20:47:50 <DJNekkid> yea, thats the good part :D 20:47:58 *** IMMJR [~IMMJR@70.44.118.243.res-cmts.sefg.ptd.net] has left #openttd [] 20:49:39 <DJNekkid> hmm 20:49:45 <DJNekkid> apparently 1 was skipped 20:49:54 <DJNekkid> ========== Build: 4 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 1 skipped ========== 20:50:13 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-97-177-201.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 20:50:15 <DJNekkid> but that was the debug 20:56:17 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@baud.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:57:15 *** dotwaffle [~dotwaffle@baud.org.uk] has joined #openttd 21:04:12 *** Fenris3 [~fenris@p5DC6954D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:10:28 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 21:11:19 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 21:11:58 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:15 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:30 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 21:17:23 <Eddi|zuHause> http://ptrace.fefe.de/made-in-germany.jpeg 21:17:38 <Markk> Haha 21:17:39 <Markk> Win 21:18:30 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 21:19:53 <SmatZ> :-) 21:20:49 <SmatZ> such hard delineators can be dangerous 21:28:48 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590ffddb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:30:51 <Wolf01> 'night 21:30:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host235-235-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:31:55 *** DaBroMfld2 [~chatzilla@p5487555A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:32:01 <DaBroMfld2> good evening 21:32:09 <Terkhen> hi DaBroMfld2 21:32:25 <DaBroMfld2> i've got a question for openttd 21:32:37 <DaBroMfld2> i'm in year 2139 21:32:51 <DaBroMfld2> and i have 166 ttrains 21:33:16 <DaBroMfld2> can i replace the trains by the same model, when they are too old? 21:33:46 <DaBroMfld2> it's very stupid to replace 30 trains manually 21:35:19 <Yexo> if the same model is still available, yes, you can 21:35:28 <Yexo> see http://wiki.openttd.org/Autoreplace 21:35:32 <DaBroMfld2> it is available 21:35:47 <Yexo> sorry, see this: http://wiki.openttd.org/Autorenew 21:35:49 <Terkhen> or http://wiki.openttd.org/Autorenew#Autorenew depending on what you mean 21:35:54 <Yexo> autoreplace is to replace it with a different type 21:36:11 <DaBroMfld2> yeah, great! 21:37:01 <DaBroMfld2> now i found it in the extended settings, too 21:37:06 <DaBroMfld2> thank you very much 21:37:20 *** DayDreamer1 [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:37:23 <DaBroMfld2> good bye 21:37:28 *** DaBroMfld2 [~chatzilla@p5487555A.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 21:43:20 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has joined #openttd 21:46:42 * andythenorth has a new thing to draw :) 21:46:42 <andythenorth> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16809752@N05/4121903769/sizes/l/in/photostream/ 21:47:58 *** Fast2 [~Fast2@p57AF8699.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:34 <supermop> nice 21:49:49 <supermop> but a little modern for the firs kiln? 21:49:55 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:50:02 <andythenorth> there will have to be variations by date 21:50:40 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has joined #openttd 21:51:14 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 21:57:20 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21943 /trunk/src/ (roadveh.h roadveh_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: document and unmagicify some bits of road vehicle overtaking 22:00:08 <supermop> so after the forge and kiln, which industries do you plan on working on? 22:01:14 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r21944 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Codechange: give name to one magic constant 22:01:21 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:41 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21945 /trunk/src/ (roadveh.h roadveh_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: simplify setting the overtaking counter and remove the magic from its numbers 22:07:23 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:13:41 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: rubidium * r21946 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#4447]: assertion/funny behaviour when a road vehicle reverses while overtaking, so abort the overtake attempt when reversing the road vehicle 22:16:57 <andythenorth> supermop: there's an iron works waiting for graphics 22:17:04 <andythenorth> then that's it for a bit 22:17:08 <andythenorth> ship 0.6 22:17:18 <supermop> is that a solicitation? 22:17:31 <andythenorth> no :) 22:17:36 <supermop> heh ok 22:17:37 <andythenorth> a statement of intent 22:18:40 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:04 <andythenorth> good night 22:19:06 *** andythenorth [~andy@87.113.170.220] has left #openttd [] 22:20:23 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:21:01 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r21947 /trunk/src/saveload/afterload.cpp: -Fix (r21195): crash when converting a savegame with vehicles crashed in a tunnel entry, or with vehicles reversing there 22:23:04 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31:38 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:32:03 *** ar3k [~ident@87-239-75-101.internetia.net.pl] has joined #openttd 22:33:17 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 22:33:52 <Terkhen> good night 22:35:11 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@4chan.fm] has quit [Quit: changing servers] 22:35:27 *** ccfreak2k [~ccfreak2k@83.169.3.115] has joined #openttd 22:36:39 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe86de00-46.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 22:40:16 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r21948 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Fix: road vehicle was moved under the bridge when it was destroyed by an UFO while on a bridge 22:49:54 <TrueBrain> and I thought that was a feature! 22:50:01 <TrueBrain> (how the ... did anyone ever notice thatone? :p) 22:50:26 <supermop> i was none the wiser... 22:52:20 <SmatZ> TrueBrain: it started crashing :) 22:53:18 <TrueBrain> :D 23:06:17 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-73-212.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06:50 <CIA-11> OpenTTD: smatz * r21949 /trunk/src/disaster_cmd.cpp: -Change: randomize the vehicle a small UFO targets, do not use the one with lowest index 23:09:41 <V453000> changes to disasters ... interesting, I wonder who plays with em :D 23:10:17 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-97-177-201.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Don't Panic!] 23:17:21 *** bcool [~chatzilla@97-120-67-182.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #openttd 23:18:24 <bcool> I'm running version 1.0.5 and I've paid off the initial loan completely, yet two years later I'm still paying interest on it. Is this a bug? 23:19:02 <bcool> or is it some part of the loan I'm unaware of? 23:19:20 <V453000> thats ... interesting :) never met that issue 23:19:54 <planetmaker> savegame? Or is it just old statistics? I mean... they don't suddenly make it unhappend that you had a loan once 23:20:37 <planetmaker> bcool: do you have a savegame for me? 23:21:03 <bcool> sorry I don't. 23:22:34 <planetmaker> well... then it is approx impossible to answer your question 23:23:01 <bcool> I think I can recreate it. 23:33:38 *** PhoenixII is now known as Phoenix_the_II 23:34:04 *** bcool [~chatzilla@97-120-67-182.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]] 23:36:16 <Rubidium> I think he can't 23:37:59 <V453000> me would trust Rubidium on that ;[ 23:38:47 *** andrew12 [~me@pool-71-166-130-45.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 23:50:12 <SmatZ> hehe 23:52:26 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:53:05 <DJNekkid> grats to me! playing with my first self-compiled version on windows :) 23:53:36 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.30.64.205] has joined #openttd 23:53:59 <SmatZ> :) 23:57:52 *** staN [~Miranda@p4FD852C5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd