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00:00:03 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 00:00:10 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 00:06:54 <SmatZ> hmm @ FS#4553 ... "I cannot add or delete any NewGRF and if I'm using ECS" 00:07:01 <SmatZ> I remember seeing that somewhere 00:07:13 <SmatZ> but I can't find that at tt-forums anymore... maybe it was here? 00:07:35 <SmatZ> but I think he was explained it has nothing to do with ECS... 00:13:26 *** Zonta1 [~DAN@modemcable132.116-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:14:14 *** Zonta1 [~DAN@modemcable132.116-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 00:25:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77899.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 00:25:21 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77899.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:26:07 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:28:22 <Wolf01> 'night 00:28:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host169-234-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:30:58 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 00:47:15 <confound> FIRS is pretty fun. 00:53:27 *** KritiK [~Maxim@93-80-178-177.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:57 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.12.7.215] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 01:06:31 *** grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:23:44 *** adune [~adune@c-66-41-187-237.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27:20 *** SirSquid1ess is now known as SirSqudiness 01:43:45 *** JVassie_ [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:02:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:27 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:d452:a257:1698:26b1] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:19:51 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 02:23:21 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d114-78-0-177.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:25:06 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:15 *** supermop [~daniel_er@12.30.84.66] has joined #openttd 02:37:57 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d114-78-0-177.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 02:42:23 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 02:44:54 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has quit [Quit: more listen, more understand, more know] 03:05:30 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 03:25:04 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-137-070.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:24 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:31:17 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-147-239.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:48 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 03:56:06 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@bas8-london14-1279480034.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 04:01:24 *** DabuYu [~80fa4fbd@webuser.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 04:27:21 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 04:33:26 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:49:42 *** SirSqudiness is now known as SirSquidness 05:04:17 *** fjb is now known as Guest691 05:04:18 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD00F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:08:12 *** MapperOG [~Leya@HSI-KBW-109-193-179-171.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:28 *** MapperOG [~Leya@HSI-KBW-109-193-179-171.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 05:11:50 *** Guest691 [~frank@p5DDFD6E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:46:16 *** supermop [~daniel_er@12.30.84.66] has left #openttd [] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77899.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75240.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:47:44 *** Devroush [~dennis@ip-83-134-166-14.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:59:26 <planetmaker> moin 07:01:10 <Terkhen> good morning 07:05:26 <planetmaker> hm.... they got a broken containment vessel, dangerous radiation levels and wind in Tokyo directions :S 07:18:01 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 07:20:38 <Terkhen> :( 07:32:43 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe33dc00-53.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 07:32:51 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1588.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 07:36:58 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-145-161.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:39:10 *** sunkan [~Tarquin@90-224-108-233-no110.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 07:40:52 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 07:54:43 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:57:07 *** sunkan [~Tarquin@90-224-108-233-no110.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - 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Another one rides the bus. And another one comes on, and another one comes on. Another one rides the bus. :) 11:09:26 <peter1138> That doesn't fix. 11:09:28 <peter1138> *fit 11:10:35 <dihedral> no, not really 11:11:03 <Mazur> Busje komt zo, busje komt zo, busje komt zo, busje komt zo... 11:12:12 <Vikthor> It doesn't? :( 11:13:11 <Mazur> "Comes on" should be one syllable. 11:13:39 <peter1138> "And another comes on" or "And another one's on" 11:16:56 <Vikthor> Oh, right 11:45:01 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082a46.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:49:25 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.12.7.215] has joined #openttd 11:50:01 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:50:40 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 11:50:42 *** Rubidium [~Rubidium@noiv.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:08 <pikka> quite 11:56:13 <pikka> and that was odd 11:56:48 <pikka> the things you see on night shift... 11:58:17 <confound> heh 11:59:11 <pikka> some random people liked my hat and wanted to take a photo with me 12:00:24 <pikka> it is a pretty nice hat admittedly 12:03:53 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.110.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06:42 *** adune [~adune@c-66-41-187-237.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:49 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.110.105] has joined #openttd 12:11:07 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 12:31:33 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 12:39:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0a2942.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@91.125.129.125] has joined #openttd 12:54:58 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 12:57:14 <andythenorth> gah the ship pathfinder sucks :P 12:57:24 <andythenorth> it's having a lot of trouble routing past industries at sea 12:57:38 <andythenorth> a bouy on every tile might help :P 13:01:56 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:32 <Belugas> hello 13:11:36 <Ammler> invisible ship routes :-) 13:20:20 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6421:a9dd:a896:4755] has joined #openttd 13:20:23 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:28:49 * andythenorth has idea 13:28:55 <pikka> invisible sandvich 13:28:58 <andythenorth> ho 13:29:09 <andythenorth> mr. bird 13:29:13 <andythenorth> my sandwich is visible 13:29:15 <andythenorth> I am eating it 13:29:31 <andythenorth> can't you see it? 13:29:31 * pikka is home now, might as well stop ircing on my phone 13:29:54 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.16.226.229] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 13:30:17 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-3-140.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:30:25 <Pikka> zume 13:30:35 <V453000> hi Pikka :p 13:30:41 <Pikka> no I do not see your sandvich 13:30:41 <andythenorth> pikka: I have played with this UKRS2 thing... 13:30:45 <Pikka> therefore, it is invisible 13:30:47 <andythenorth> must be invisible 13:30:48 <Pikka> oh? 13:30:56 <andythenorth> it is good 13:31:01 <V453000> I just wanted to ask about UKRS2 ... are there some fast cargo engines planned? :) 13:31:08 <andythenorth> they are fast :o 13:31:17 <Pikka> fast cargo engines like what, V453000? 13:31:36 <V453000> like GEC91 from UKRS, which is express only now 13:31:43 <V453000> or even the wardales 13:32:10 <andythenorth> but the wagon speed limits make that pointless no? 13:32:20 <V453000> wagon speed limits are stupid 13:32:25 <Pikka> not everyone plays with wagon speed limits andythenorth 13:32:32 * planetmaker doesn't 13:33:12 <andythenorth> ho 13:33:19 <andythenorth> people play differently to me :o 13:33:23 <Pikka> I think people who don't are strange and aren't playing the set as designed, but I'm not going to force it on them unlike some people *cough*canset*cough* 13:33:40 <V453000> yes, makes canset quite unusable :( 13:33:45 <andythenorth> I played 1870-2010 so far 13:33:48 <andythenorth> it's fun 13:34:02 <andythenorth> I had to turn freight weight multiplier down, I was getting killed 13:34:11 <Pikka> ho ho 13:34:20 <V453000> the problem with wagon speed limits is that there is no other way than splitting traffic into separate networks - which sucks 13:34:34 <andythenorth> pikka: do you use a freight multiplier in your games? 13:34:44 <Pikka> yep, usually 5 13:34:50 <andythenorth> I use 6 13:35:00 <V453000> Pikka: actually, UKRS is _far_ more playable without wagon speed limits 13:35:10 <Sacro> what!? I have a 66 sturggling now 13:35:21 <Sacro> it'll never cope with freight multiplyer 13:35:26 <andythenorth> multiplier is 4 in my current game :) 13:35:26 <Sacro> Pikka: we need moar UKRS :D# 13:35:39 <V453000> UKRS actually is the best set without it. With the speed limits, it is just a normal set to me 13:35:50 <Pikka> Sacro: working on something else at the moment I'm afraid 13:35:53 <Sacro> I like wagon limits 13:35:54 <andythenorth> he 13:35:57 <Sacro> Pikka: aww :( 13:36:12 <Sacro> it needs 4th rail trains now 13:36:14 <Pikka> hoping to reveal that in a few weeks, then back to the UKRSes 13:36:19 <Sacro> some nice tube stock 13:36:27 <andythenorth> pikka: the only feedback I have is that after 1998, every freight train gets a shed :P 13:36:32 <Pikka> someone drew a whole load of tube stock for the addon set 13:36:46 <andythenorth> how about that really ugly thing they've introduced this year? 13:36:52 <Pikka> the 70? 13:36:56 <andythenorth> yes 13:37:03 <andythenorth> they dropped one in newport docks and broke it 13:37:05 <Pikka> it's a possibility 13:37:21 <andythenorth> I think I miss a class 67 as well 13:37:24 <andythenorth> I dunno 13:37:43 <andythenorth> I mostly get bored by about 2010 anyway 13:37:47 <Pikka> that's pretty much how I feel too about the 67 13:37:57 <Pikka> but it'll be in either the main set or the addon set, one way or another 13:37:57 <andythenorth> playing in the future is a bit weird for me 13:39:02 <andythenorth> the add-ons are parked behind 'the other thing' ? 13:39:25 <Pikka> behind the other thing and behind UKRS2 itself 13:39:27 <andythenorth> ah 13:39:31 <Pikka> hmmm 13:39:40 <andythenorth> I wondered about coding some, but I guess you have your own way of doing things.... 13:39:55 <andythenorth> I have enough to do also :P 13:39:59 <Pikka> hehe 13:40:02 <planetmaker> ho ho. Did I hear correctly? Another new surprise set by Pikka ? :-) 13:40:21 <Pikka> indeed! 13:40:26 * planetmaker waves also 'hello' :-) 13:40:31 <andythenorth> hi planetmaker 13:40:32 <Pikka> I'm trying to force myself to a deadline too! lol 13:40:38 <Pikka> hello also planetmaker 13:40:38 <andythenorth> a very appropriate one 13:40:50 <Pikka> april 1st... 13:40:54 <planetmaker> ho, deadlines? Don't work yourself to death on those ;-) Would be a shame ;-) 13:40:59 <andythenorth> my baby was supposed to be born on April 1st 13:41:04 <andythenorth> his joke was to arrive on Feb 12th 13:41:09 <Pikka> oops 13:41:09 <planetmaker> uh 13:41:33 <andythenorth> pikka: I think I screwed up the sprite positioning on monster box 13:41:39 <andythenorth> there is an epidemic of white lines 13:41:47 <Pikka> possibly 13:41:51 <Pikka> I shall look into it 13:41:59 <Pikka> I probably just cut them wrongly 13:42:16 <Pikka> it will not be difficult to fix 13:42:54 <andythenorth> cargo classes remain there usual exciting and bizarre selves 13:43:01 <andythenorth> FIRS fish can travel by polybulk :) 13:43:07 <andythenorth> and so can wool 13:43:11 <Pikka> ooh 13:43:37 <andythenorth> I am past trying to perfect those :P 13:43:46 <andythenorth> not only is it (a) hard but (b) players disagree 13:44:01 <andythenorth> I'm leaving it up to set authors and not making any more changes FIRS side without a reason :D 13:44:05 <Pikka> :P 13:44:13 <Pikka> well, let me see what polybulk can carry 13:44:53 <Pikka> 28 80 02 29 01 04 1D 40 00 0C 04 13:45:35 <Pikka> 80 02 is refrigerated + covered... hmm yes 13:46:10 <Pikka> 01 04 is passengers or oversized 13:46:22 <andythenorth> the open / hopper wagons can't carry scrap metal either which is all wrong, but scrap metal has been a painful argument that I'm bored of :P 13:46:29 <Sacro> yeah, would be nice to have 67 70 13:46:32 <Pikka> :P 13:46:39 <Sacro> perhaps 37 and 47s too 13:46:46 <Sacro> and a 390! 13:46:48 <Sacro> er 13:46:50 <Sacro> 395 13:46:50 <andythenorth> there are 37s and 47s 13:46:54 <Sacro> are there? 13:46:54 <andythenorth> :P 13:46:56 <Sacro> oops 13:47:02 <andythenorth> in my game there are :) 13:47:04 <Sacro> well, javelins would be nice 13:47:15 <Pikka> they're planned 13:47:36 <andythenorth> I think it's well balanced without too much stuff 13:47:42 <andythenorth> too much stuff is a headache 13:47:56 <Pikka> yes 13:48:12 <Pikka> that's why the secret set only has 3 locomotives! \o/ 13:48:15 <andythenorth> in UKRS 1 did MGR hopper have a hood if refitted to clay? 13:48:27 <Pikka> I think so, I don't remember 13:48:36 <andythenorth> was a nice touch if so 13:48:42 <Sacro> hmm, i'd like some faster passenger stock 13:48:57 <andythenorth> High-Speed Carriage? 13:49:04 <andythenorth> 140mph 13:49:11 <Sacro> well, unlimted speed 13:49:16 <Pikka> faster than 140mph? 13:49:19 <Sacro> 186mph 13:49:29 <Pikka> oh, you want eurostars 13:49:34 <Pikka> har har 13:49:41 <Pikka> no eurostars for you! 13:49:46 <Sacro> no, 395 13:49:53 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_395 13:49:53 <Pikka> 395 goes 140 13:50:03 <Sacro> oh, true 13:50:07 <Sacro> yeah, EMU 140 13:50:12 <Sacro> as opposed to EMU 186 13:50:16 <Pikka> and like I said, it's planned for inclusion 13:50:19 <__ln__> what's the channel policy about units? imperial or SI? 13:50:30 <Sacro> hmm, wnoder if they can do 100mph on 3rd rail 13:50:32 <Pikka> and the 91 does 140mph, and it's already in 13:50:36 <Sacro> __ln__: yes, one orw the other 13:50:41 <Pikka> SI 13:50:49 <Pikka> I demand everyone speak in m/s from now on! 13:51:13 <Sacro> 2â²2â²+Boâ²Boâ²+Boâ²Boâ²+Boâ²Boâ²+Boâ²Boâ²+2â²2â² 13:51:43 <__ln__> Pikka: i demand yards/fortnight 13:52:02 <planetmaker> hm, no Eurostars? :-( 13:52:23 <Pikka> nope 13:53:12 <andythenorth> pikka: realistic liveries is done nice 13:53:18 <andythenorth> ;) 13:53:29 <Pikka> I think it works quite well 13:53:33 <planetmaker> __ln__, and power in electron volts / fortnight 13:53:39 <andythenorth> any comments on the cartic 4? I think it sucks, but mr MacKellar liked it 13:53:57 <Pikka> I thought it looked good so far 13:54:06 <Pikka> the diagonals and the loaded versions will be the test 13:54:17 <andythenorth> I did the diagonals 13:54:21 <Pikka> oh 13:54:22 <Pikka> yeah 13:54:37 <Pikka> well, whatever it was I saw it looked good! 13:54:42 <andythenorth> fanks 13:55:05 * andythenorth ponders something for heavy equipment 13:55:10 <andythenorth> warwell? 13:55:12 <andythenorth> comtic? 13:55:22 <andythenorth> weltrol? 13:55:27 <Pikka> D: 13:55:42 <andythenorth> no like? 13:57:10 <Pikka> didn't say that 13:57:34 <Pikka> I actually had a well wagon on the list for UKRS2 13:58:13 <planetmaker> but...? 13:58:22 <andythenorth> trestrol :D 13:58:33 <Pikka> but I couldn't be arsed drawing it 13:59:01 <planetmaker> :-P 13:59:14 <planetmaker> that's a good enough reason :-) 14:07:06 <andythenorth> pikka: I might draw one 14:07:13 <andythenorth> it's probably an easy enough shape 14:07:18 <andythenorth> or a real pain in the arse 14:07:19 <Pikka> probably! 14:07:20 <andythenorth> one of those 14:08:09 <andythenorth> I'll probably orient it towards FIRS and draw one with quite a low capacity... 14:08:23 <andythenorth> maybe a lowmac 14:10:14 <andythenorth> hah 14:10:23 <andythenorth> a lowmac is just a rectangle with slopey bits 14:13:05 <Pikka> everything is just a rectangle with slopey bits 14:14:04 * andythenorth is just a rectangle with slopey bits 14:14:15 <andythenorth> nfo is just a rectangle with slopery bits 14:14:30 <andythenorth> my invisible sandwich is just a rectangle with slopery bits 14:24:34 <Pikka> largely 14:25:00 <Pikka> but mostly I was talking about TT train vehicles 14:25:13 * andythenorth thinks of other insightful UKRS 2 feedback 14:25:15 <andythenorth> hmm 14:25:20 <andythenorth> no I don't have any ;) 14:27:25 <andythenorth> it's very hard btw 14:27:38 <andythenorth> at least, with the combination of settings for my current game, it's hard 14:27:43 <andythenorth> which is fun 14:29:17 <Pikka> yup 14:30:23 * andythenorth does ponder 14:30:33 <andythenorth> there is no newgrf town growth 14:30:42 <andythenorth> so how about 'every house is an industry'? 14:30:47 <andythenorth> hmm 14:30:56 <andythenorth> cargo is only delivered to one industry in catchment 14:31:07 <andythenorth> how about 'neighbourhoods are industries' 14:31:11 <Yexo> that'd really slow down the game 14:31:17 <andythenorth> residential neighbourhood... 14:31:21 <andythenorth> retail neighbourhood 14:31:32 <Yexo> a house exists only on the map, there is no extra information 14:31:49 <Yexo> for industries a separate struct with a lot of extra informatino is stored 14:31:57 <andythenorth> ach 14:31:59 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:32:05 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.238] has joined #openttd 14:32:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:32:47 <andythenorth> hmm 14:33:07 <andythenorth> 'money' isn't a good enough reason to ship goods / alcohol / building materials / food 14:33:22 <andythenorth> maybe the industries that receive should also produce something back 14:49:48 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:04:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:02 *** ezrakilty [~ezrac@67.110.141.71] has quit [Quit: Puh-peace!] 15:27:04 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: ideally, they would have an effect on town growth 15:27:36 <andythenorth> ideally there would be world peace :P 15:27:42 <andythenorth> :D 15:32:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think that's really that ideal 15:33:10 <Eddi|zuHause> peace equals stagnation 15:33:11 <andythenorth> frosch has a TownControl spec 15:33:17 <andythenorth> but spec != code 15:33:55 <Eddi|zuHause> "spec is code by other means" :p 15:35:29 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:39 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:46 <planetmaker> it's the code in which programmers are programmed :-P 15:41:01 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has joined #openttd 15:42:26 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 15:45:43 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 15:52:35 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:26 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:01:43 <andythenorth> why RVs sometimes drive right through each other? 16:01:49 <andythenorth> I don't mean at crossings 16:02:21 <andythenorth> I mean when one is stopped / slow 16:02:54 <peter1138> Quantum effects. 16:03:51 <peter1138> Specifically... "Road vehicle queueing (with quantum effects)" 16:03:56 <planetmaker> and the drivers are very impatient 16:04:15 <andythenorth> he 16:04:23 <andythenorth> I always wondered what quantum effects was :P 16:05:46 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling 16:06:13 <andythenorth> it makes sense now I know what the setting means :) 16:13:18 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:15 <Terkhen> andythenorth: IIRC to avoid deadlocks 16:17:42 <planetmaker> ^ 16:17:58 <andythenorth> it looks particularly weird with trams 16:18:09 <andythenorth> and trams are also more prone to causing it to happen ;) 16:21:02 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:17 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:22:56 <Terkhen> I remember that some of my TTD games were "broken" after a deadlock happened 16:23:48 <Eddi|zuHause> deadlocks occured very frequently in TTO, and they took ages to resolve 16:24:26 <Eddi|zuHause> usually when a vehicle was turning around before a station, and another vehicle was exiting the station at the same time 16:26:53 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:30:19 <Terkhen> ^ 16:30:26 <Terkhen> that's what happened, yes 16:31:10 <__ln__> *occurred 16:31:47 <__ln__> ok, i fail with ^B 16:35:35 *** guru3_ [~guru3@81-235-164-123-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:37:47 *** guru3 [~guru3@2002:51eb:a47b::1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:54:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:47 <andythenorth> shames there's no way to reverse-fill a ship route with bouys 17:09:56 <andythenorth> it can be boring to do manually :P 17:10:41 <planetmaker> andythenorth, the most boring thing is IMHO not building the buoys, but giving the orders. Which is tedious for long(er) routes 17:10:49 <andythenorth> yes 17:10:54 <planetmaker> But without... see my AI Competition game what happens ;-) 17:10:54 <andythenorth> that's what I'm referring to ;) 17:11:01 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj199.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 17:11:18 <planetmaker> One AI build ships - but they all got lost, going around in a deserted, lonely bay... 17:11:24 <planetmaker> never reaching their destination 17:11:36 <andythenorth> a sad story :( 17:11:56 <planetmaker> yeah. especially for the passengers onboard :-P 17:12:02 <Terkhen> :D 17:13:57 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 17:18:29 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj199.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0b3d8e.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 17:25:05 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:25:06 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has joined #openttd 17:27:29 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:28:14 *** murr4y [~murray@177.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 17:36:35 *** APTX [APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 17:36:46 *** APTX [APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 17:42:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:49:03 <Belugas> music music music por favor 17:53:37 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:56:17 * andythenorth wishes this misleading line had never been put into the TTDP wiki: 17:56:23 <andythenorth> "light comes from the right" 17:56:25 <andythenorth> :P 17:59:34 <andythenorth> George: what alternative is better? 17:59:40 <andythenorth> wrt supplies? 18:00:09 <George> you mean http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=41607&start=2300? 18:00:36 <andythenorth> yes 18:01:07 <George> I think stockpiling is better 18:01:27 <George> You can have also unlimeted size in 2 ways 18:02:14 <George> 1) the way Food plant and other agricultural industries do - al the cargo above limit is accepted, but nt stored 18:03:02 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that different to how it works now? 18:03:52 <George> 2) the way GBCP acts, when there is no limit and you can deliver as mach cargo as you want 18:04:43 <George> In FIRS the PLAYER should PROVIDE every month SUPPLY 18:05:49 <andythenorth> yes 18:05:51 <George> In ECS he should only provided required amount of cargo waiting, and the INDUSTRY ITSELF would spend required amount every month 18:06:40 <George> That means if in ECS you would deliver cargo on 29-th january and 2-th march - it is Ok 18:06:58 <Ammler> I would consider one tile routes as cheating 18:07:18 <George> in FIRS you should deliver before 28-feb, otherwise you would have production drop 18:07:37 <andythenorth> why would production drop? 18:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the problem? the example route was just a way for the player to simulate "storage" at his station 18:07:53 <andythenorth> it could, but it's not entirely deterministic 18:07:58 <George> because you do not have cargo delivered last month 18:08:00 *** v3rb0 [~v3rb0@78.84.201.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:30 <andythenorth> production drop depends on (a) player has production decrease parameter enabled (b) random chance 18:08:44 * andythenorth dislikes parameters, but this one seemed worthwhile :( 18:08:52 <George> It would drop or have a chance to drop - it does not matter 18:09:13 <George> the problem that 1 day delay can cause a large penalty 18:09:29 <andythenorth> he :) 18:09:39 <George> In TTDs time scale I find it ... lets say not good 18:09:50 <Eddi|zuHause> i think ECS is much more vulnerable to such delivery oddities 18:09:56 <andythenorth> I am not very good at maths....but 18:10:09 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-067-068-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:10:20 <George> Eddi|zuHause: No 18:10:29 <Terkhen> if the solution is stockpiling, I can live with that chance :/ 18:10:39 <George> Storeplace is relative large 18:10:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i have not played ECS extensively, but i heard from some people complaining that one missed vehicle delivery can cripple your entire economy 18:10:57 <andythenorth> if random varaction 2 has 1F as mask, what is chance? 18:11:12 <Terkhen> although for supplies stockpiling wouldn't matter that much as you usually deliver small amounts 18:11:19 <George> So, if you are on the top of capacity - you would not definitly get the reduce 18:11:26 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d110-32-3-140.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 18:11:46 <andythenorth> 1F is 3% chance? 18:11:51 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 18:11:54 <George> > vehicle delivery can cripple your entire economy :) 18:12:05 <George> It sounds like they never played ECS 18:12:16 <George> But only heard about it 18:12:35 <andythenorth> ach 18:12:50 <andythenorth> lets say chance of decrease is 1/64 18:13:00 <andythenorth> or 1/4 if production is high 18:13:05 <andythenorth> and chance of increase is always 1/4 18:13:06 <confound> I find the idea of doing contrived 1-tile supply routes distasteful too, but in my first FIRS game so far I'm also apparently doing ok without it 18:13:10 <Eddi|zuHause> 1F=31 18:13:12 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj199.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: âI-n-v-i-s-i-o-nâ 3.2 (July '10)] 18:13:15 <andythenorth> anyway 18:13:34 <Eddi|zuHause> then it depends on what ranges you check 18:13:43 <andythenorth> so month 1, your vehicle is late. Chance of decrease ~= 1/64 18:13:57 <andythenorth> but at the end of month 2 your cargo arrived. So chance of increase ~= 1/4 18:14:06 <andythenorth> net result. More chance of increase than decrease 18:14:10 <andythenorth> even if late 18:14:15 <George> 1F is 12% 18:15:12 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc788.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:15:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i think you're talking about incomplete examples... 18:15:35 <Eddi|zuHause> which makes giving them proper meaning difficult 18:15:39 <andythenorth> brb 18:16:21 *** lugo [lugo@89.238.177.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:18:38 <George> andythenorth: Agree with Eddi|zuHause. If you have a change for 1/4 growth during 2 months it is definintly higher than 1/64 decay and 1/4 grow 18:19:51 <George> I mean probabilistic average here 18:20:08 <George> It is higher in the first case than in the second 18:25:19 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:36 <__ln__> sigue nevando en canarias, they say on tve 18:31:49 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:33:51 *** ecke [~ecke@188.75.128.2] has joined #openttd 18:33:55 <Eddi|zuHause> so? 18:34:22 <Belugas> quite 18:34:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:34:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:34:37 *** grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-78-180-180.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 18:44:36 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 18:45:51 <andythenorth> George: yes 1/4, 1/4 should be higher on average 18:50:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:52:18 <andythenorth> putting aside which mechanic is better... 18:52:31 <andythenorth> ...why is the default assumption that production increase is good? 18:52:37 <andythenorth> production increase has downsides 18:53:09 <Alberth> it poses a challenge to the user 18:53:26 <andythenorth> it does indeed 18:54:33 <Alberth> and it feels like more positive challenge than a decrease would 18:55:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:03:07 <George> andythenorth: > ...why is the default assumption that production increase is good? because it causes more transportation and profit 19:03:46 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@99-73-209-18.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:56 <andythenorth> but it also disrupts your chain ;) 19:05:08 <andythenorth> and is a prime cause of station rating falling 19:15:41 <confound> dealing with more production feels fun 19:15:53 <confound> dealing with decreased production feels like you failed somehow 19:16:35 <andythenorth> he 19:16:43 <andythenorth> not dealing with increased production is quite a failure 19:16:48 <andythenorth> :D 19:17:03 <andythenorth> station ratings can drop so much you end up with less net cargo 19:19:30 <andythenorth> George: one thing I thought of was to move from 'calendar month' to 'rolling 30 day window' 19:19:45 <andythenorth> that's how FIRS secondary industries work for combining cargos 19:19:51 <andythenorth> it's fairer on the player 19:19:56 *** perk11 [~perk11@sR-UN-2.izmaylovo.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:17 *** CIA-7 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:20:27 *** CIA-10 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 19:23:53 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:23:57 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:32 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj199.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 19:27:34 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 19:28:27 *** perk11 [~perk11@sR-UN-2.izmaylovo.net] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 19:34:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i agree with that 19:34:38 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: the 30 days? 19:34:43 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 19:35:04 <andythenorth> the only reasons it's not done are (a) I just thought of it (b) it's inconsistent with town behaviour 19:35:47 <andythenorth> but maybe town behaviour is wrong... 19:47:13 <confound> UKRS 2 says: The Livestock Van (along with the Covered Carriage Truck, the other vehicle which can carry livestock) expires in 1980. Realistically, all livestock should be transported by road from the 1970s onward. 19:47:24 <confound> I didn't know that. is it just in the UK or US too? 19:48:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know US, but this is happening all over europe 19:48:15 <confound> why? 19:48:31 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea. it makes for silly gameplay restrictions... 19:48:32 <confound> I'm not a big train geek, I just like openttd. so I don't know these things :) 19:50:44 <andythenorth> irl, far as I remember it's a combination of stricter regulations, and more abbatoirs closer to farms 19:51:40 <confound> did the latter happen because of the former? 19:51:52 <andythenorth> not sure 19:52:02 <andythenorth> there's some stuff on wikipedia about it if you dig around 19:52:02 <confound> seems reasonable,a nyway 19:52:03 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock_transportation 19:52:07 <confound> heh 19:52:08 <confound> thanks 19:52:19 <andythenorth> depends on the country, but stuff like animals can only be transported so many hours 19:52:22 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not buying the "closer" argument... theree have been reports about livestock being transported through europe back and forth 19:52:29 <andythenorth> and have to be transported with people attending them 19:52:41 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I think 'closer' applies on the us scale 19:52:50 <andythenorth> e.g. not shipping all the cows to chicago 19:53:05 <andythenorth> I looked into it for FIRS, but I'm not so good at retaining facts 19:54:25 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Stock_Yards 19:55:12 <andythenorth> this might be the most useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_car_(rail) 19:56:26 *** andythenorth [~andy@91.125.129.125] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:57:07 *** andythenorth [~andy@91.125.129.125] has joined #openttd 20:05:54 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:06:10 <Nite> Hi 20:06:36 <Nite> ... how is comunication with the russian ottd nerds? 20:07:24 <Nite> i like the Russian trains and tram set (rtts) much, any chance to get it on bananas 20:19:27 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:6cff:fe87:e49c] has joined #openttd 20:19:46 *** dageek [~dageek@2001:8b0:ff85:0:223:6cff:fe87:e49c] has quit [] 20:21:07 <Alberth> did somebody already fire the international airport designer? 20:21:28 <Alberth> erecting a large communication tower right next to the runway 20:22:52 <peter1138> Is that one of RichK's? 20:23:00 <peter1138> If not, I think it's Darkvater's... 20:23:28 <andythenorth> sounds like a case for... 20:23:29 <Rubidium> it ain't DV's 20:23:31 <andythenorth> NewAirports 20:25:51 <Alberth> it's both in the original graphics base set and in the opengfx one 20:28:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-25-143-207.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:30:29 <Belugas> Richk's 20:31:07 <Belugas> nice fellow, again :) 20:31:19 <Belugas> man, was he proud of that stuff! 20:32:31 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-106-231.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:34:20 <peter1138> hmm 20:34:35 <peter1138> Well graphics set isn't anything to do with layouts ;) 20:36:27 <peter1138> Rubidium, why do you say it's not DVs? 20:36:35 <peter1138> DV's :) 20:36:50 <peter1138> OpenTTD 0.3.3 20:36:54 <peter1138> # Feature: darkvater's two new airports (metropolitan in 1980 and international in 1990) 20:39:13 <Belugas> oh fuck... here goes the memory 20:39:47 <George> andythenorth: Did you get the answer to your question (what alternative is better?) 20:39:56 <andythenorth> not yet ;) 20:40:05 <frosch123> luckily i have no idea which airport name relates to which layout :p 20:40:12 <George> What is unclean yet? 20:40:36 <andythenorth> George: multiple aspects 20:40:46 <George> ? 20:41:00 <andythenorth> well I'm not clear what problem is being solved initially 20:41:05 *** Macha [~Macha@109.78.18.20] has joined #openttd 20:41:07 *** Macha [~Macha@109.78.18.20] has left #openttd [] 20:50:17 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-145-130.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:50:42 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@adsl-99-129-145-130.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:28 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:59:11 <Belugas> well... time for me as well 20:59:12 <Belugas> night all 21:00:01 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: Visit my community site at http://sla-co.webs.com/] 21:04:58 *** andythenorth [~andy@91.125.129.125] has left #openttd [] 21:08:55 <Rubidium> peter1138: really? Can't remember that; thought DV only added the metropolitan 21:13:12 <peter1138> Don't think you were here then ;) 21:13:21 <peter1138> I can't say for sure, because I wasn't... 21:14:00 <__ln__> when was that? 21:14:11 <peter1138> 0.3.3 21:14:18 <__ln__> that's not a date 21:14:24 <peter1138> You can look it up. 21:14:26 <Rubidium> point is that I don't remember the international, until after RichK 21:15:48 <__ln__> fine. it seemed to be in July 2004. 21:16:04 <__ln__> i was here back then... 21:16:52 <peter1138> win 23 21:16:55 <peter1138> argh 21:17:25 *** Aylomen [~chatzilla@DSL01.83.171.185.13.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:37 * SmatZ got a little suspicion that __ln__ is in fact disguised ludde 21:22:56 <frosch123> i doubt someone was here at 0.3.3. sounds more like freenode 21:23:28 <frosch123> and of course ottd release numbers are valid dates 21:23:37 <__ln__> it's the same "here" 21:23:49 *** russell_h [~russell_h@ash.osuosl.org] has left #openttd [] 21:28:01 <SmatZ> we have a lottery company that went into bankrupt recently 21:28:15 <SmatZ> and someone won ~5mil Eur 21:28:25 <SmatZ> there is little chance he will get his money 21:28:27 <SmatZ> soucks... 21:28:46 <frosch123> how can a lottery bankrupt? 21:28:48 <SmatZ> "yay, I won incredible amount of money" ... two months later "... NOOOOOOOO ... " 21:30:00 <SmatZ> frosch123: its about how lotteries have to donate sport... they built an arena (hockey, konzerts, ...) for ~1000mil Eur 21:30:18 <SmatZ> and they no longer have money to pay the debts 21:31:24 <frosch123> what's the czech word behind "konzert"? :o 21:31:41 <SmatZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_Arena_%28Prague%29 21:31:55 <SmatZ> frosch123: music ... being played there ... singer singing ... 21:32:56 <SmatZ> "concert" :) 21:33:00 <frosch123> well, yes, same word in german :) so i got confused why you would put a german word with english plural form in there :) 21:33:00 <Vikthor> frosch123: In czech it's "koncert" though, probably from Italian 21:33:24 <SmatZ> hello Vikthor :) 21:33:34 <Vikthor> nazdar 21:33:50 <__ln__> nazgûl 21:33:53 <SmatZ> :P 21:34:12 <__ln__> well that wasn't czech but middle earth 21:34:19 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:34:25 <SmatZ> ;) 21:34:43 <SmatZ> Czech Republic is in the middle of Europe :) 21:35:18 <Vikthor> Actually that is mordor or black speech 21:35:29 <__ln__> and i still haven't been there even once 21:36:06 <frosch123> hmm, i am still wondering whether you misspelled the english concert, the czech koncert, or used the german konert :) 21:36:15 <frosch123> *konzert :s 21:36:31 <SmatZ> frosch123: I expected you will understand "konzert" :) 21:36:44 <SmatZ> because "concert" looks weird 21:36:49 <SmatZ> but indeed, it's correct 21:37:16 <frosch123> ok :) 21:41:47 <frosch123> night 21:41:51 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fc788.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:49 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-088-067-068-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:47:22 *** Krusen [~as.if@89.184.153.221] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:00 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD00F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:15 *** Mazur [~mazur@53551A99.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 22:03:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B8E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:12 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:33 *** fjb [~frank@p5DDFD00F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:08 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 22:23:38 *** JOHN-SHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-106-231.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:25 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-30-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:31:57 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has quit [Quit: Sleep.] 22:37:33 *** Aylomen [~chatzilla@DSL01.83.171.185.13.ip-pool.NEFkom.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 22:38:34 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 22:45:09 <Wolf01> 'night 22:45:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host169-234-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:56:53 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d082a46.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 23:00:28 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1588.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 23:08:55 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe33dc00-53.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 23:15:29 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 23:16:03 *** PeterT [PeterT@peter.tarkoy.com] has joined #openttd 23:16:07 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4dbc1588.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:24 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:34 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-89-201.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 23:37:36 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [] 23:38:20 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-83-233.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 23:39:34 *** Chris_Booth [~chatzilla@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]] 23:43:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:44:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-39-53.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:45:09 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:21 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:58:13 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip3.mibbit.com] has left #openttd []