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02:05:58 <adamkex> :( 02:07:00 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:c02b:5253:112b:bf4e] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:07:06 <adamkex> nevermind :D 02:07:08 <Eddi|zuHause> adamkex: click on a hangar, click on "clone" and then on the crashed plane 02:08:37 <adamkex> Eddi|zuHause: yeah it took me a while, i thought i could only clone planes that were already inside the hangar.. 02:12:30 *** Bjarte [bjarte@playing.OpenTTD.no] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 02:12:53 *** Bjarte [bjarte@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 02:14:55 <__ln__> @seen Bjarte 02:14:55 <DorpsGek> __ln__: I have not seen Bjarte. 02:25:04 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:26:30 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-188-100-208-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:27:29 *** murr5y [~murray@101.84-48-68.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:28:25 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 02:31:49 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-146-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:36:39 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:33 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 02:37:59 *** murr5y [~murray@101.84-48-68.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 03:15:54 *** Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:16:10 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 04:45:47 <Bjarte> __ln__: I'm right here, damnit :P 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7611C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:20 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75392.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:22:17 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 05:31:24 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: In democracy it's your vote that counts; In feudalism it's your count that votes. - Mogens Jallberg] 05:38:25 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:45:38 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 06:00:55 <planetmaker> moin 06:10:58 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 06:11:17 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:14:31 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC22BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:18:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A55A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:18:55 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e061cc4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:23:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D494.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:03 <dihedral> morning 06:37:05 *** Kurimus [Kurimus@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe35dc00-187.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 06:47:04 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:49:13 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:54:15 <LordAro> moin 07:04:08 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.17.103.47] has joined #openttd 07:04:12 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:04:16 <pikka> popop 07:04:31 <pikka> a wild chill appears 07:04:41 <pikka> and chrill 07:05:10 <Chrill> wild Chrill 07:05:14 <Chrill> crazy wild 07:05:15 *** Chrill [~Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 07:05:24 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:05:32 <planetmaker> heya pikka 07:05:36 <pikka> D; 07:05:52 <pikka> hi planetmaker 07:06:06 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-58-232.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:06:27 <pikka> what are the haps? 07:07:23 <planetmaker> haps = things happening? Dunno, just returned from weekend late last night :P 07:07:55 <pikka> o. been away for the weekend? 07:08:12 <planetmaker> yo. 4th birthday of my god-daughter :-) 07:08:27 <pikka> cool :) 07:08:39 <planetmaker> much more fun than boring copyright threads it seems ;-) 07:08:48 <pikka> I became an uncle on the weekend 07:08:56 <planetmaker> ho! Congratulations :-) 07:09:03 <pikka> much more fun, silly people 07:09:33 <pikka> well, congratulations to my sister :p 07:09:43 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:09:44 <planetmaker> indeed :-) 07:11:40 <pikka> and now I am waiting for a bus, and there's no loo around here :{ 07:11:42 <planetmaker> what would you think of a sticky on "licenses explained" or so in the graphics sub-forums? 07:11:58 <planetmaker> I think I have a half-finished blog posting which I could convert... 07:12:04 <planetmaker> he... :S 07:12:32 <pikka> I dunno 07:12:56 <pikka> It's hard to explain licences to people 07:13:26 <pikka> and I don't think it would avoid things like what happened this weekend 07:14:36 <pikka> I don't know how much it would help 07:15:21 <pikka> and of course not every grf author uses a major license for every release... most of mine, for instance. 07:15:54 <planetmaker> It wouldn't avoid that last thread, no. But it might help (new) authors to choose better informed and at the right place 07:16:07 <planetmaker> And IMHO it's as important as finding the right tools 07:16:32 <planetmaker> If they come to the conclusion to write their own - like you do - fine. But they should have *thought* about it ;-) 07:17:00 <pikka> perhaps :) 07:17:05 <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/?p=469&preview=true <-- I guess you don't have access to that, right? 07:17:42 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:17:57 <pikka> nope 07:18:45 <pikka> but if you want to pm something for comment, or even go right ahead and make a thread, ill look at it when I get home 07:19:25 <pikka> right now I guess I'd better get this bus on the road :) 07:19:39 <planetmaker> yeah, not sure I can finish it today. It needs still a bit of work, I think. I want to look at the individual licenses a bit more in detail than I do now 07:19:42 <planetmaker> hehe :-) 07:19:46 <planetmaker> enjoy the ride ;-) 07:20:07 <pikka> I'll try :p 07:20:28 *** pikka [~yaaic@120.17.103.47] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 07:21:22 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 07:26:24 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-58-232.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:18 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 07:44:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:51:26 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 07:52:14 <LordAro> ok, i can confirm that a self-compiled ottd trunk (mingw-win32) crashes when running ./openttd -d5 (or any other -d setting) 07:52:20 <LordAro> bugs.openttd.org? 07:55:08 <LordAro> i will anyway :) 08:02:08 <LordAro> done 08:02:12 <Terkhen> good morning 08:02:30 <Terkhen> LordAro: configure it with --enable-console and try again 08:02:49 <Terkhen> or alternatively try to run it with -d5 from windows console, not from msys 08:03:08 <LordAro> doing... 08:04:27 <LordAro> aha! --enable-console works :) 08:05:29 <Terkhen> it is IMO a bug in msys, it can't open the extra console window that OpenTTD wants when compiled without --enable-console and using -d 08:06:22 <LordAro> never experienced it before... :/ 08:07:24 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:09:35 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 08:09:36 *** ar3k [~ident@ebk36.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:10:19 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-184-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:09 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:14:28 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cd900.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 08:16:49 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecl69.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:20:58 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC22BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:51 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5AFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:43:39 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-88-56.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:52:56 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-184-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 08:55:45 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has joined #openttd 08:55:58 <norbert79> Good morning 08:57:43 * norbert79 smells the flame burning in TT-Forums...ú 09:02:59 <norbert79> Such hastle about this... Simple: SAC 'borrowed' some images, wnated to take credit for it, while he could just avoid the whole flame by lisitng the authors from those, whom he has borrowed graphics from... 09:03:29 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cd900.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:02 <norbert79> and it's not the creator's task to show themselves, but the borrower, who reused some grpahics to address the original creator 09:07:19 <Pikka> good norbing 09:09:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host152-235-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:10:16 <Wolf01> hello 09:21:01 <norbert79> lol at Pikka.. Morning :) 09:33:02 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B102920.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:36:18 *** Pikka [~chatzilla@d58-111-88-56.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]] 09:37:39 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B104062.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:40:20 <Eddi|zuHause> now you scared him 09:41:21 <norbert79> awwww 09:42:42 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 09:55:26 <LordAro> norbert79: SAC = she 09:55:38 <norbert79> LordAro: Thank you 09:58:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@53550CC7.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 10:04:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@i59F6A55A.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:19:14 *** andythenorth [~andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:21:26 <andythenorth> ho ho ho 10:21:37 <norbert79> Welcome Santa Claus 10:22:44 <andythenorth> It's a bizarre love triangle 10:22:49 <andythenorth> For thieves like us 10:23:00 <andythenorth> Maybe we could all make up 10:23:04 <andythenorth> And have the perfect kiss 10:23:12 <andythenorth> In 1963 or 1987 10:26:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A3FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:31:05 *** Mazur [~mazur@53550CC7.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:35:54 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:14 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... CargoPayment does some magic that i don't really understand... 10:41:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see where the actual payment occurs... 10:43:20 <LordAro> is AllocateWindowDesc() used anymore? it's not in newgrf_gui.cpp... 10:43:24 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not actually sure what i want to do either... 10:44:53 <LordAro> it seems not... 10:45:05 <LordAro> what to do instead then... :L 10:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause> either i want to introduce storing the last company in cargopacket, and when a vehicle loads which doesn't belong to that company, make a final payment and set transfer credit to 0 10:47:07 <Eddi|zuHause> or i want to do that unconditionally for all transfers, and let the player responsibly take care of not hauling the cargo back and forth through transfers 10:49:15 <Eddi|zuHause> but CargoPayment::PayTransfer does not seem to do the actual payment, so i don't know what to change 10:56:26 <Hirundo> Eddi|zuHause: Payment is done in the destructor IIRC 11:08:37 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:11:18 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:12:03 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.76.62] has joined #openttd 11:12:41 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-88-56.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:12:48 *** Mazur [~mazur@53550C29.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:12:49 <Pikka> how did I xchat? 11:12:54 *** JOHNSHEPARD [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:55 <andythenorth> Cries and whispers 11:15:18 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm70.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 11:15:47 <Scuddles> hi triololo 11:17:16 <Pikka> scuddles is ridiculous 11:17:23 <Pikka> hello andy 11:18:24 <Pikka> I am now use xchat because chatzilla goes mental and starts using 100% cpu if I close firefox, and also it's not that flash... 11:18:42 <planetmaker> good decision, Pikka :-) 11:18:57 <Pikka> ty sir 11:19:40 <Pikka> so between this and yaaic I feel like a proper new-age ircer now 11:19:51 <Scuddles> you dirty ircer 11:20:02 <Pikka> you damn dirty demomom 11:20:14 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has joined #openttd 11:20:16 <Pikka> someone got angry with me for saying demomom 11:20:20 <Pikka> instead of demomum 11:20:30 <peter1138> Grrrr! 11:20:39 <planetmaker> demo-mum? Like a mum just for show-casing? ;-) 11:20:49 <Pikka> but it wasn't peter1138 11:20:57 <Pikka> no planetmaker 11:21:04 <Pikka> like a demopan only different 11:21:14 <Scuddles> I thought it was like demoman 11:21:18 * planetmaker has no idea of either of those three words ;-) 11:21:23 <Scuddles> Not that that's much of a difference 11:21:41 <Pikka> it's like demoman too 11:21:42 <Scuddles> The demoman is one of the nine classes, he has pipes and stickies 11:21:46 <Pikka> but noone uses proper words any more 11:21:53 <Scuddles> not even the hoovy 11:21:53 <Pikka> least of all me 11:22:22 <Pikka> it's all team fortress 2, anyway 11:22:32 <Scuddles> More like team fortless 2 11:22:37 <Scuddles> Or teamless fort 2 11:22:41 <Pikka> more like 11:22:44 <Scuddles> Actually, it isn't even a fort 11:22:50 <Pikka> bedtime 11:22:58 <Scuddles> isn't it already, yes D: 11:22:59 <planetmaker> sleep well, Mr Bird 11:23:00 <Pikka> goodnight gentlemen 11:23:05 <Scuddles> goodnight mister spoon 11:23:16 <Pikka> scuddles is it 11:23 in singapore? 11:23:30 <Scuddles> nap it is 19:23 11:23:34 <Pikka> o 11:23:35 <Pikka> so it's 11:23:39 <Pikka> 2 hours earlier 11:23:44 <Pikka> not 2 hours later 11:23:47 <Pikka> I knew it was 2 hours 11:23:50 <Scuddles> What are you even, Singapore's timezone is very Australiaish 11:23:57 *** dpkendal [~david@5addc44e.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 11:23:59 <Pikka> now it is 21:24 11:24:05 <Scuddles> Besides, if it was later I would be between hawaii and America 11:24:13 <Scuddles> Or in vladivostok 11:24:15 <Pikka> no 11:24:24 <Pikka> or would you? 11:24:28 <Pikka> I suppose you would 11:24:30 <Scuddles> I was, but only then 11:24:33 <Pikka> you must be perthtimes 11:24:38 <Scuddles> yes, I must 11:24:42 <Pikka> werd 11:24:54 <Scuddles> Also japontimes and some-parts-of-Russia times 11:24:59 <Scuddles> and HK times? 11:24:59 <Pikka> yes 11:25:04 <Pikka> I suppose 11:25:14 <Pikka> anyway 11:25:21 <Pikka> more boos to drive tomorrow, so now I must bedward 11:25:32 <Scuddles> I'll drive you're boose 11:25:42 <Pikka> you can try but you will crash 11:26:16 <Pikka> gnight 11:26:19 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-88-56.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:29:24 <Scuddles> I am a bed too 11:29:29 *** Scuddles [~notme@cm70.epsilon84.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 11:32:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:33:59 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:39:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:42:33 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 11:42:48 <Eddi|zuHause> what language were they speaking?! 11:43:34 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:44:58 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:49:39 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:26 *** norbert79 [~Norbi@deibp9eh1--blueice3n2.emea.ibm.com] has left #openttd [] 12:07:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:6968:26e1:638f:7402] has joined #openttd 12:07:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:20:27 *** ZirconiumX [521f58c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 12:20:37 <ZirconiumX> hello all 12:21:09 * ZirconiumX is wondering what heuristic I should use as a *basic* start 12:21:19 <ZirconiumX> maybe Djikstra's 12:23:19 <ZirconiumX> for squirrel 12:31:58 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:36:20 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 12:48:35 *** ZirconiumX [521f58c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 12:54:41 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:01:52 *** Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:05:12 <andythenorth> hmm 13:05:18 <andythenorth> cars in the FIRS petrol station? 13:11:36 <Eddi|zuHause> nah... 13:13:40 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@91.84.251.149] has joined #openttd 13:15:02 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15:08 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has joined #openttd 13:15:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:15:36 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Ehm.. 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15:33:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Yexo: modify transfer payment 15:33:39 *** murr5y [~murray@101.84-48-68.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:34:21 *** murr5y [~murray@229.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 15:34:42 <Eddi|zuHause> my thought was that transfer between companies isn't really working currently, as only the final delivery is accounted, every other company involved is getting nothing. so either when the company changes it should pay the previous company, or all transfers should be treated like final delivery 15:35:34 <Yexo> both of those solutions are fundamentally flawed 15:35:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:36:13 <Eddi|zuHause> especially the second one is easily abused 15:36:17 <Yexo> however if you don't expect foul play they might work well 15:38:32 <Eddi|zuHause> but the point is moot if i can't find the right place to patch... 15:51:59 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:34 *** murr5y is now known as murr4y 16:05:30 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 16:15:07 <yorick> is it impossible (using the admin interface) to poll the shareholders? 16:15:13 <yorick> of a company? 16:16:25 <Eddi|zuHause> for various values of "impossible" 16:16:58 <yorick> meaning? 16:17:14 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 16:18:35 <Eddi|zuHause> "manager's impossible" = "the program doesn't do it", "engineer's impossible" = "it's too much work to make the program do it" or "scientist's impossible" = "it is proven that it can't be done"? 16:19:15 <yorick> this is a manager's impossible? 16:19:45 <yorick> :) 16:20:39 <Ammler> could be solved with a patch then :-P 16:21:41 <yorick> which would require a protocol change 16:23:48 <Ammler> doesn't it support versioning for such reason? 16:25:30 <yorick> better add faces and secondary colors too, also fix the ADMIN_PACKET_ADMIN_UPDATE_FREQUENCY to use a uint8 for AdminUpdateType 16:25:39 <yorick> if the protocol is changed anyways 16:26:15 <yorick> it only supports versioning handles by the client, not the server :( 16:26:17 <yorick> handled* 16:27:05 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:05 *** murr5y [~murray@229.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 16:34:07 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has joined #openttd 16:34:40 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-184-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:34:50 <Ruudjah> any way to disable automatic orders? The one thng openttd tries to do for me, does it very bad 16:35:23 *** murr4y [~murray@229.84-48-69.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:35:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd987.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:10 <Ruudjah> (sorry for the troll) 16:36:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:35 <planetmaker> Ruudjah, there isn't. But automatic orders do NOT influence where a train goes 16:37:09 <planetmaker> it's just a (visual) feedback of which stations a train (also) visits due to the manual orders you gave 16:37:37 <planetmaker> so, if you're unhappy with it, reconsider your orders ;-) 16:39:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e061cc4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:41:15 <Ruudjah> I just played A game 16:41:25 <Ruudjah> and there was no way to change the orders 16:41:37 <Ruudjah> because it was adding/removing orders like crazy 16:41:40 <Ruudjah> like 16:41:43 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-184-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:55 <Ruudjah> every second it removed 10 orders and added 10 orders 16:42:09 <Ruudjah> so I was unable to fix em 16:42:31 <planetmaker> depot them 16:42:38 <Ruudjah> then I was like whatever, and stopped the game 16:43:40 <Ruudjah> quit 16:43:44 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:44:40 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5AFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 16:45:30 *** ZirconiumX [521f58c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 16:46:00 <Ruudjah> Also I noted automatic orders which should not be there 16:46:03 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 16:46:05 <Ruudjah> had station a,b,c,d 16:46:08 <ZirconiumX> Hi all 16:46:11 <Ruudjah> depot before a 16:46:21 <Ruudjah> then ordered abcd 16:46:29 <Ruudjah> just a big loop 16:46:41 <Ruudjah> a->b->c->d->a etc 16:46:54 <Ruudjah> but kept adding removing automatic orders 16:46:57 <planetmaker> well, that's bad depot placement then probably 16:47:00 <Ruudjah> no 16:47:04 <Ruudjah> one depot only 16:47:23 <planetmaker> if you think it's a bug, make a bug report and attach the savegame 16:47:30 <ZirconiumX> I notice that in the AyStar Pathfinder, in the constructor() there are all the altered properties - Is this neccessary? 16:48:02 <planetmaker> otherwise it's kinda hard to follow, Ruudjah ;-) 16:48:19 * Ruudjah thinks there should be a bugreport button, presenting user with desc form+uploading all debug info automagically 16:48:34 * Ruudjah also knows he prolly has to build it himself 16:48:53 <ZirconiumX> http://bugs.openttd.org/ 16:49:00 <ZirconiumX> I think 16:49:07 <Ruudjah> I know 16:49:22 <Ruudjah> to tedious 16:49:55 <Ruudjah> If all the bugs I classify as bugs I'd report, it would be dayjob 16:50:45 <ZirconiumX> We could ask a dev to do something like @bugs 16:51:00 <ZirconiumX> or something stupid like that 16:51:48 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:52:12 <ZirconiumX> I'll add the stuff in constructor() 16:52:55 <planetmaker> Ruudjah, just mind that we cannot fix anything we don't know about. So every software project needs people to actually put the finger on things which they consider a bug. 16:53:39 <Terkhen> there was a forum thread about automatic bug reporting recently, the reasons why that is not a good idea are exposed there 16:54:18 <planetmaker> oh, there was? 16:54:29 * planetmaker must have missed it. 16:54:36 * planetmaker also would call it regression testing ;-) 16:57:35 * ZirconiumX rants on about how many 'state u''s there are in the Dstar code 16:58:15 <Terkhen> strange, I cannot find it... maybe I just dreamed about it 16:58:25 <LordAro> hmmm - Alberth hasn't turned up today 16:59:52 <frosch123> Terkhen: wasn't it a fs task? 17:00:29 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:00:45 <frosch123> yeah, fs#4491 17:01:26 <Terkhen> you are right, thanks :) 17:02:14 <planetmaker> thanks :-) 17:02:23 <planetmaker> missed that, too :S 17:11:01 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 17:14:33 *** murr5y is now known as murr4y 17:17:06 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:26 *** lasershock [~lasershoc@hd9483b29.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:59 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:58 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:32 *** perk111 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:45 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 17:37:03 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:37:47 *** Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:39:40 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:40:03 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:42:14 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:43:51 *** KouDy1 [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [] 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r22318 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt croatian.txt korean.txt): 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by arnau 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne 17:45:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: korean - 1 changes by junho2813 17:47:34 <ZirconiumX> @AI devs/gurus, is there a function similar to rand() in C? 17:48:27 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 17:53:12 *** ZirconiumX [521f58c1@ircip2.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 17:55:01 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 18:08:32 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:11:09 *** Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:12:26 <LordAro> gah, where is alberth when you want him? 18:13:51 <Terkhen> busy? 18:14:35 <LordAro> don't care >:( 18:14:38 <Ammler> no excuse, if LordAro needs him 18:14:47 <LordAro> precisely :) 18:14:49 <LordAro> :p 18:14:59 <Terkhen> don't caring can work in both directions ;) 18:15:11 <Ammler> :-) 18:15:14 <LordAro> shh! 18:18:01 *** andythenorth [~andy@46.208.69.103] has joined #openttd 18:20:05 <LordAro> with mq, how to output all patches as one? the mercurial wiki says: "hg diff -r $(hg parents -r qbase --template '#rev#') -r qtip", but that doesn't work - "hg: parse error at 0: syntax error" 18:20:35 <andythenorth> hello 18:20:43 <LordAro> moin andy 18:21:34 <Ammler> LordAro: hg diff -r.:qparent 18:21:45 <Ammler> or just hg diff -r qparent 18:22:05 <LordAro> ty 18:22:17 <Ammler> that does make a patch of all applied patches 18:22:36 <LordAro> so why doesn't the mercurial wiki (http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MqExtension#Output_all_applied_patches_as_a_single_patch) work? 18:23:02 <LordAro> and does it need changing? 18:23:39 <Ammler> no idea, I don't use that wiki 18:23:50 <Ammler> i use hg help and man hg 18:24:01 <LordAro> cheat :P 18:24:26 * planetmaker does usually the same as Ammler 18:24:46 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/Mercurial <-- LordAro, other helpful links at the bottom 18:25:23 <Ammler> hginit.com is nice for starters 18:26:11 <andythenorth> supermop: did you figure out version control yet? :) 18:26:57 <Ammler> LordAro: and you should do what 8.4/8.5 suggests in that wiki 18:28:39 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@port-92-195-126-252.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 18:28:51 <LordAro> done :) 18:29:03 <LordAro> anyway, i g2g 18:29:08 <LordAro> thanks everyone 18:29:23 <LordAro> tell alberth i waited for him :') 18:29:24 <LordAro> lol 18:29:27 <LordAro> by 18:29:39 *** LordAro [~kvirc@88-110-130-218.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.] 18:29:47 <planetmaker> lol 18:33:27 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-23-20.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:45:51 *** flitz [~me@dslb-188-107-129-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:45:59 <flitz> hi 18:46:18 <andythenorth> ho 19:03:40 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:06:31 *** afk [~Dre@92.18.105.207] has joined #openttd 19:08:39 *** afk [~Dre@92.18.105.207] has quit [] 19:09:17 *** afk [~Dre@92.18.105.207] has joined #openttd 19:12:23 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:13:03 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dre@92.18.201.28] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:34 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-7-153.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:33:33 <andythenorth> ho 19:33:44 * andythenorth wonders what else CHIPS needs 19:33:56 <andythenorth> besides some drawings, which I am too lazy to do right now 19:35:53 <andythenorth> is this confusing? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=53362&start=20 19:36:01 * andythenorth thinks it might be a valid point 19:36:48 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:55 <yorick> lol @ chips :) 19:38:30 <andythenorth> at the name? Or the grf? :P 19:40:27 <yorick> the name 19:40:51 <yorick> too bad FISH isn't the industry set 19:41:35 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5AFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:40 <andythenorth> the industry set should be MAYO 19:41:47 <andythenorth> or PEAS 19:41:52 <andythenorth> hmm 19:41:58 <andythenorth> MAYO sounds like an objects set 19:42:03 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 19:42:11 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [] 19:42:28 <yorick> PEAS should be an Aircraft Set 19:43:51 <andythenorth> so it should 19:44:07 <yorick> PEAS Extended Aircraft Set :) 19:44:11 <andythenorth> MAYO Adds Your Objects 19:44:17 <andythenorth> PEAS = WIN 19:45:12 <yorick> Peace Ends All Sadness? 19:45:17 <Prof_Frink> I'm struggling with CURRYSAUCE. 19:47:05 <andythenorth> Probably an AI 19:47:49 <yorick> CURRYSAUCE Unique Railroad Renewal Yet Still Awesome U CE? 19:48:10 *** rhaeder1 is now known as quix0r 19:48:14 *** quix0r is now known as rhaeder 19:48:17 <yorick> meh @ sauce 19:49:39 <yorick> YIARA is a recursive acronym :( 19:52:43 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 19:54:00 <confound> andythenorth: I am boggled that that was confusing someone 19:54:09 <andythenorth> I can see why 19:56:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:00:56 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [Quit: join my irc at irc.sla-company.co.cc] 20:04:02 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@home.deboom.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:25 <Yexo> andythenorth: easy solution might be to make the menu display no buffers at all 20:11:51 <andythenorth> if it's possible... 20:11:55 <andythenorth> then it should be done :) 20:16:35 <planetmaker> "cargo" 0xFF ;-) 20:16:44 <planetmaker> (or is that different for stations?) 20:17:59 <Yexo> nope 20:23:06 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:11 *** Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:27:22 <andythenorth> sometime we should give CHIPS it's own menu entry too 20:28:15 *** JOHN-SHEPARD_ [~JOHN-SHEP@ALyon-158-1-172-101.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:35:42 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 20:35:45 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 20:35:59 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 20:40:32 <Ruudjah> 06:52 planetmaker: true. The first thing I do for projects is to include a bugreporter ;) 20:48:11 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cd900.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:24 <flitz> hm, what would be a good method to determine whether a vehicle in a consist is a locomotive or a wagon ? Ask if its power is > 0 ? 20:52:40 <flitz> I found no function to determine this easily 20:52:56 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 20:53:08 <frosch123> flitz: IsPrimaryVehicle 20:53:19 <frosch123> tests for a front-engine 20:53:44 <frosch123> if you want to test for other non-front engines there is likely also some IsEngine or so 20:53:54 <frosch123> take a look at Train or GroundVehicle class 20:54:07 <flitz> this is what I didn't found, at least not in Vehicle and Train 20:54:15 <flitz> I want to test mid-consist vehicles 20:54:27 <flitz> let me take a look at ground vehicle, brb 20:54:36 <frosch123> yeah, it's in GroundVehicle 20:55:12 <flitz> ah I found it, thanks 20:55:42 <flitz> IsWagon, very convenient -if one looks at the right place ;) 20:56:53 <frosch123> keep in mind that not everything is either wagon or engine :) 20:57:08 <Yexo> and some engines can also transport cargo 20:57:52 <planetmaker> and some wagons add power... 20:58:22 *** X-2 [~X-2@5ED662EB.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:58:29 <planetmaker> and some are cabooses and are required in order to extend the length beyond xy tiles. Etc pp 20:58:52 <planetmaker> but "caboose" is nothing which can be tested by AIs 20:59:15 <frosch123> night 20:59:19 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590fd987.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:59:51 <planetmaker> sounds tempting. Good night, too 21:00:10 <Eddi|zuHause> there is an AI callback (18?), but it's not powerful enough 21:00:34 <Yexo> and therefor not implemented in openttd 21:00:54 <andythenorth> bye planetmaker 21:01:05 <Eddi|zuHause> only for stations, not for trains 21:01:17 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-184-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:01:24 <flitz> and some wagons add power... <<-- yes, I just wanted to extract vehicles from a consist that are able to pull the consist in the role of primary engine 21:01:46 <flitz> I'm not sure whether it makes much gameplay sense, though 21:03:32 *** Twerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:06:48 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cd900.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:09:12 <Terkhen> good night 21:11:24 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:11:45 <andythenorth> dropping like flies :P 21:13:20 <andythenorth> ho 21:13:35 <andythenorth> with FIRS nightly, my entire map is now full of recycling depots :o 21:13:45 * andythenorth does exaggerate a bit 21:13:52 <andythenorth> there are 181 of them 21:14:01 <andythenorth> about 5 per town 21:15:20 <flitz> recycling depots ? 21:15:49 <andythenorth> yup 21:15:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:16:08 *** NIte [5472b1fc@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:16 *** NIte [5472b1fc@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [] 21:16:34 *** Nite [5472b1fc@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 21:16:40 <flitz> they recycle ... vehicles ? 21:16:41 <Nite> Hi 21:16:43 <flitz> hi 21:17:06 <andythenorth> flitz: they produce Recyclables cargo 21:17:19 <Nite> trein status bar, speed still flickering 21:17:25 <Nite> train 21:17:44 <flitz> but they are still depots which refit and buy vehicles ? 21:17:58 <andythenorth> flitz: no ;) 21:18:02 <andythenorth> they're an industry 21:18:17 <flitz> now I see :) 21:18:28 <Nite> it seems when a train cannot reach full speed it sometimes does like 99,5 kmh ... hten the display "flickers" between 99 and 100 constantly 21:19:03 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:19:10 <Nite> as i remember in 1.0 only every 2nd kmh was shown (= 2, 4, 6, 8, and so on) 21:19:18 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite: test savegame? 21:20:02 <Nite> just run any train with weak engine it happens often 21:20:41 <Nite> when trains do **,5 kmh 21:21:34 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i didn't express myself clear enough. 21:21:37 <Eddi|zuHause> Nite: test savegame! 21:22:14 <Nite> i remember old digital tachometers in real cars did this too (audi quattro) 21:22:52 <Nite> where to drop that savegame? 21:22:59 <Eddi|zuHause> bugs.openttd.org 21:23:26 <Nite> brb 21:28:39 <Nite> savegame in future maybee 21:29:20 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:31:50 <andythenorth> oops 21:31:54 * andythenorth does some improving 21:32:35 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 21:35:01 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ebk36.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:35:18 *** ar3k [~ident@ebk36.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:35:19 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 21:38:27 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 21:43:05 *** andythenorth [~andy@46.208.69.103] has left #openttd [] 21:43:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A3FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:49:23 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-86-49-8-148.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:53:09 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:58:53 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:23 *** andythenorth [~andy@46.208.69.103] has joined #openttd 22:06:32 * andythenorth has drawn flowers around a farmhouse 22:06:38 <andythenorth> but maybe they look like sick 22:07:22 <Nite> *prust* 22:08:34 *** asilv [~as@h-62-142-161-134.joensuunelli.fi] has quit [Quit: asilv] 22:09:33 *** andythenorth [~andy@46.208.69.103] has left #openttd [] 22:10:18 <Ammler> someone ever converted mediawiki db from latin1 to utf-8? 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