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00:16:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AB4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22:14 *** DanMacK [~DanMacK@206.191.69.149] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 00:34:49 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 00:41:30 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 00:56:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 00:59:22 *** eQualizer|dada [~lauri@dyn13-22.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:43 *** MMavipc [~crapmail@ip72-197-227-147.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:49:51 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:32:00 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-205-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:26:56 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:8a3:c205:6178:e0ac] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:43:01 *** devilsadvocate [~quassel@109.200.19.188] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77159.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:09:49 <SmatZ> morning 05:21:20 *** Pokka [~yaaic@120.21.234.233] has joined #openttd 05:21:47 <Pokka> ew 05:22:09 <SmatZ> mornong, Pokka 05:22:24 <Pokka> mornong 05:22:40 <Pokka> what's cooking? 05:23:27 <SmatZ> not much I guess 05:24:42 <Pokka> oh 05:25:35 * Pokka feels like a sleep 05:26:09 <Pokka> or doing some 3d for av8 05:26:24 <SmatZ> :) 05:26:45 <Pokka> sadly I am sitting in a bus behind the museum and can't do either 05:32:34 <SmatZ> :( 05:34:21 <Pokka> only 4 hours til I can go home... 05:55:17 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 06:13:51 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has joined #openttd 06:18:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e061cc4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:25:01 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@188.123.106.105] has quit [Quit: Quit] 06:44:31 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31:22 <Terkhen> good morning 07:50:10 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-86-17.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:55:00 *** Markavian [~Markavian@66.100-50-210.dynamic.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:58:00 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:02:19 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-191-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:25:54 <Pokka> I'm back! at the museum again D: 08:31:36 <Pokka> good moin terkhen 08:32:21 <Terkhen> hi Pokka 08:34:18 * Hendikins decides that since he's got no real trains to play with at work today, he'll play some ottd. 08:35:20 <dihedral> good morning ladies :-) 08:36:16 <Pokka> lucky you hendikins 08:36:27 <Pokka> oh well 08:36:45 * Pokka on the way home, at least 08:44:33 <Hendikins> Pokka: I'd rather be doing work than sitting on standby. 08:44:41 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-191-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 08:44:50 *** Pokka [~yaaic@120.21.234.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:02:35 *** mode/#openttd [-R] by Terkhen 10:02:56 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77032.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:02:57 *** Bjarte [bjarte@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 10:08:35 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-83-60.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:09:22 <Pikka> well 10:09:31 <Pikka> this was a disappointment 10:11:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:12:32 <Wolf01> hello 10:13:27 <Terkhen> hi Wolf01 10:14:26 *** Devroush [~dennis@178-119-81-33.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:16:24 * Hendikins yawns some, ponders whether he gets overly elegant in this game. 10:29:28 <dihedral> ... 10:29:49 <dihedral> sounds like something worth to ponder ^^ 10:31:09 <Hendikins> The thing is, elegant gets expensive. 10:33:04 <Pikka> bump the elephant isn't quite as elegant 10:33:09 <Hendikins> So the question is probably more correctly stated as "Am I pissing money up the wall by being overly elegant?" 10:33:42 <Pikka> the elegant bits are usually simpler though, so why would they be more expensive? 10:34:21 <Pikka> or maybe I'm just interpreting "elegant" as "not building junctions three times the size of cities" 10:36:05 <Hendikins> Elegant is stuff that isn't quick and dirty. 10:37:59 <Hendikins> For example, I might run a straight and more level double track corridor and do the associated earthworks, rather than just running a track wherever I can find a space. 10:43:39 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 10:48:36 <Mazur> Good... 10:55:55 <Hendikins> Balloon loops, runaround roads, etc. 10:56:03 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:03:01 <planetmaker> moin 11:03:12 <Markk> Oi 11:03:27 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:04:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... anyone noticed how germany is (almost) the only european country without a major boost in right-wing parties over the last few years? 11:07:04 <__ln__> implicitly noticed 11:10:07 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i don't suppose it's possible to make a vehicle both articulated and dualheaded 11:10:44 <Wolf01> airports' buses 11:10:49 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-86-17.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [] 11:11:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i meant "dualheaded" as "able to put wagons in the middle" 11:11:25 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:18:28 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cecb9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 11:27:11 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@brln-4d0cecb9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:35 *** Chruker [~no@port113.ds1-vj.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:29:35 <Pikka> Eddi|zuHause: no, it is not possible 11:52:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A48C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:56:29 <Eddi|zuHause> www.eisenbahnstiftung.de/bg/pics/4481.jpg <-- interesting, electrification without track... 12:05:07 <Hendikins> Line possibly singled? 12:05:20 <Hendikins> After all, you'd lay the track before wiring it. 12:07:47 <Eddi|zuHause> nope, it's a visual illusion... www.eisenbahnstiftung.de/bg/pics/4465.jpg <-- here you see the second track ;) 12:09:52 <Hendikins> Oddly enough, there have been cases of wired roads being singled and the overhead being left up. 12:15:22 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:ecb8:6da1:946b:1127] has joined #openttd 12:15:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:22:54 *** PierreW [~ttdlx@bnc.peterbox.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:22:55 *** PierreW [sbnc@bnc.peterbox.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:09 *** Cursarion [ronin@viuhka.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:29:10 *** Cursarion [ronin@viuhka.fi] has joined #openttd 12:32:08 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:57:41 <Belugas> hello 12:58:00 <Wolf01> hello 12:59:29 * Belugas is in an awfull mood. spent part of the night in emergency. Son has an ear infection. it did NOT required emergency, but it made mom felt better 12:59:41 <Belugas> and that is a good reason enough to get there ... 13:01:53 <planetmaker> hi Belugas 13:03:32 <Belugas> hi Wolf01, hi planetmaker :) 13:11:34 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:49 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.237] has joined #openttd 13:14:52 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 13:15:24 <planetmaker> wb Belugas 13:16:29 <Belugas> :) 13:16:30 <Belugas> tx 13:16:51 <Belugas> i though a grandma has cut the fiber optic cable ;) 13:18:58 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has joined #openttd 13:20:18 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:34:06 <yorick> hrrm, PBI is not on bananas? 13:34:58 <planetmaker> possibly not. Bug pikka 13:35:33 <Pikka> PBI was never "finished" 13:35:41 <yorick> well I enjoyed it 13:36:06 <planetmaker> Well, but it's used often enough that it might warrant distribution ;-) And the 'not finished' feeling definitely does not come up 13:36:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:36:32 <andythenorth> it's a shame the fund industry tool can't show when a position would be valid for construction 13:36:42 <planetmaker> it's not a comprehensive re-make of all industries as FIRS or ECS, but a small but neat modification of the existing ones with some small additions 13:37:09 <planetmaker> which in itself could be a valid goal which is achieved there nicely 13:37:41 <planetmaker> and it'd be one step more to making the coop grfpack obsolete :-P 13:37:59 * andythenorth loves PBI 13:38:09 <andythenorth> is anything ever finished? :P 13:38:21 <planetmaker> Pikka, you could alternatively upload it with a max version set to 1.0 or so. Then only old savegames could trigger a download. But... ^ 13:38:39 <andythenorth> PBI may not be finished, but it is 'done' 13:38:41 <andythenorth> :D 13:39:00 <Pikka> TaI basic industries! 13:39:04 <Pikka> one day I will finish it! 13:39:13 <peter1138> TAI! 13:39:13 <planetmaker> that's a different thing :-) 13:39:19 <andythenorth> TAI TAI! 13:39:23 <Pikka> it will be all 19thcenturyised! 13:39:27 <andythenorth> bonkers 13:40:17 <peter1138> it'll be all fields when i were a lad 13:40:25 <Pikka> yes 13:40:45 <peter1138> clearly 32 cargo types and x industry types IS NOT ENOUGH 13:40:59 <Pikka> I'm pretty sure we need 128 cargo types 13:41:05 <andythenorth> why stop there? 13:41:07 <andythenorth> 256? 13:41:08 <peter1138> pfft 13:41:11 <peter1138> why limit at all 13:41:24 <planetmaker> and every industry being unique. 13:41:25 <peter1138> over 9000 cargo types 13:41:32 <andythenorth> I'm pretty sure I've invented then binned at least 9000 cargo types 13:41:41 <Pikka> mind you 13:41:44 <Pikka> before you do that 13:41:45 <andythenorth> ah...but they can all be done with (subtypes) 13:41:46 <andythenorth> :P 13:41:59 <Pikka> you need to make industries accept/produce more than 3/2 cargos :) 13:42:06 <andythenorth> subtypes are *really* a great idea :\ 13:42:16 <planetmaker> they are ;-) 13:42:20 <andythenorth> Pikka: industries should produce at least 9000 cargos 13:42:38 <Pikka> ALSO 13:42:46 <Pikka> someone needs to finish newairports :} 13:42:58 <andythenorth> oh was that mentioned? 13:43:01 <andythenorth> newports 13:43:10 <Pikka> my cousins are newports 13:43:13 * andythenorth wants to sack the stupid water-industry-airports 13:43:15 <andythenorth> for a better way 13:43:47 <Pikka> yes, we need newports which allow all vehicle types 13:43:57 <peter1138> newpikka 13:44:02 <Pikka> so we can make gibraltar airport 13:44:02 <andythenorth> new peter1138 13:44:07 <andythenorth> new roadtypes! 13:44:14 <Pikka> those too 13:44:20 <andythenorth> new extended action 2 tile layouts :P 13:44:23 <Pikka> so we can make canals as roads 13:44:38 <peter1138> newless 13:44:45 <andythenorth> newmore 13:44:51 <Pikka> anyway 13:45:05 <andythenorth> how many cargos should an industry produce? 13:45:06 <Terkhen> newnew 13:45:10 <Pikka> av8 2.0, 20th of october, floatplanes with wakes which will look very odd landing on concrete :D 13:45:15 <yorick> we need less complicated graphics format! 13:45:22 <andythenorth> eh? 13:45:22 <Pikka> apparently! 13:45:33 <andythenorth> we need more complicated graphics format! 13:45:38 <andythenorth> more spec! more features! 13:45:56 <Terkhen> no, developing newgrfs must take a big toll on the coder's sanity 13:46:06 <andythenorth> there's no evidence of that here 13:46:11 <Pikka> nope 13:46:13 <yorick> andythenorth: more advanced, less complicated 13:46:15 <Pikka> .avi 13:46:25 <Pikka> ah yes, yorick 13:46:39 <andythenorth> meh 13:46:42 <peter1138> ini files? 13:46:44 * andythenorth sees no big wins in that 13:46:51 <andythenorth> lot of work for no benefit 13:47:06 <andythenorth> industries should produce 7 cargos? 13:47:15 <planetmaker> nah. 32 13:47:19 <planetmaker> and input, too 13:47:21 <Pikka> the old "do what I want you to do without me having to actually work it out in a logical way" programming that so many people need so they can get into coding. :P 13:47:28 <planetmaker> then finally there can be oversea ports 13:47:46 <Terkhen> besides overseas ports, can you give an example of an industry producing 7 separate cargos? :P 13:47:51 <peter1138> de-special-case everything 13:48:12 <andythenorth> Terkhen: forest 13:48:26 <planetmaker> Terkhen: chocolate factory: nougat, marzipan, chocolate easter bunnies, chocolate santa clause, chocolate easter eggs, ... ;-) 13:48:30 <andythenorth> exactamly 13:48:31 <yorick> Pikka: yes that 13:48:39 <yorick> Pikka: or even squirrel based newgrfs :) 13:48:46 <Pikka> ew 13:48:51 <planetmaker> where's that easier, yorick ? 13:48:57 <Terkhen> meh, you are just making too specific cargos 13:49:00 * andythenorth likes the annoying 2-cargo output limit 13:49:11 <planetmaker> :-) @ Terkhen ;-) 13:49:12 <andythenorth> although a cb might be a better way... 13:49:16 <Terkhen> there was a project for squirrel GRFs... 13:49:27 <planetmaker> was it yorick's project? 13:49:28 <Pikka> I think what we need is even more ways to write grfs, so that the knowledge and assistance base for new coders is even more fragmented than it is now 13:49:41 <Terkhen> it might be, I don't remember much :) 13:49:45 <andythenorth> if we make it simple enough....anyone could write a grf 13:49:47 <yorick> Pikka: it wasn't 13:49:53 <andythenorth> imagine the unlocking of creativity that would allow 13:50:07 <peter1138> s/creativity/crap/ 13:50:08 <andythenorth> "because stupid people make the best game designers" 13:50:13 <planetmaker> :-P 13:50:25 <Terkhen> :d 13:50:40 <Pikka> andythenorth: you know what would make a really good newgrf? 13:50:45 <andythenorth> nfo + pngs? 13:51:01 <Pikka> all the trains/planes that I, personally, have been on in the last couple of years 13:51:09 <planetmaker> :-) 13:51:10 <Pikka> and maybe one steam locomotive for completeness 13:51:19 <peter1138> lol 13:51:39 <planetmaker> Pikka, I always assumed we have that: NARS + UKRS2 + av8 ;-) 13:51:53 <andythenorth> you know what would make a better newgrf? 13:51:57 <andythenorth> everything in these videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/tournadude 13:52:18 <peter1138> nah, all ottd really needs is a race car grf 13:52:33 <Terkhen> we need a real mars grf 13:52:44 <andythenorth> a proper space climate? :o 13:52:47 <Terkhen> andythenorth: isn't that heqs? 13:52:56 <andythenorth> not really 13:53:00 <planetmaker> nah. It needs a Mars GRF. A moon GRF. and rockets as 5th transport type. 13:53:00 <Pikka> ew spaceclimate 13:53:06 <andythenorth> Terkhen I restrained myself :P 13:53:16 <andythenorth> spaceclimate would take fricking ages I reckon 13:53:24 <planetmaker> andythenorth, how so? 13:53:27 <andythenorth> unlikely anyone's got time for that 13:53:29 <planetmaker> drawing side? 13:53:33 <Pikka> especially if the creator got bored with it about 60% of the way through 13:53:40 <andythenorth> what's really needed is this: http://www.youtube.com/user/tournadude#p/u/16/CF6cskF9aJ4 13:53:41 <planetmaker> :-D 13:53:48 <Pikka> and decided to use waiting for newports as an excuse for putting it off 13:54:29 * planetmaker now does not look into Pikka's direction and sprite drawer 13:54:34 <Pikka> these sure are some transport vehicles you're showing off, andythenorth 13:54:41 <Terkhen> a good excuse, the existing airports would look strange for rockets, spaceships and so on 13:54:56 <andythenorth> this might need newports http://www.youtube.com/user/tournadude#p/u/42/Mzseq5Ti3Xg 13:55:00 <andythenorth> newlocks?!? 13:55:14 <planetmaker> "real" locks :-P 13:55:23 <Terkhen> "ships don't climb slopes" locks 13:55:41 <andythenorth> 27 cargos for industries? 13:55:48 <andythenorth> hmm 13:55:51 <andythenorth> but seriously.... 13:56:03 <peter1138> NUM_CARGOS 13:56:24 <planetmaker> andythenorth, add it to newgrf specs v8 ;-) 13:56:32 <andythenorth> I don't actually mind 13:56:44 <andythenorth> constraints are somewhat good 13:56:55 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:12 <andythenorth> I can cheat for acceptance using the tile acceptance 13:57:14 <peter1138> what ottd needs is a scrollbar in the minimap 13:57:22 <planetmaker> Terkhen, how big is your andalusia scenario? 13:57:30 <andythenorth> peter1138: or something similar 13:57:30 <Terkhen> 1024*512 13:57:32 <andythenorth> keys or something 13:57:37 <andythenorth> scrolling minimap drives me nuts 13:57:39 <Pikka> NUM NUM NUM cargos 13:57:41 <planetmaker> hm... borderline, but ok :-) 13:57:46 <Terkhen> the last version was 2048*1024 :P 13:57:47 <peter1138> not for the minimap itself 13:57:49 <andythenorth> Pikka: what's planned for regearing? 13:57:54 <peter1138> but the huge list of industry types 13:58:01 <Terkhen> 512*256 was too small 13:58:06 <Pikka> putting it in a bucket and setting fire to it, andythenorth 13:58:12 <andythenorth> peter1138 LessIndustries? 13:58:20 <andythenorth> reduce the limit to 32, problem solved 13:58:26 <andythenorth> Pikka currently I have to keep a FIRS slot free for regearing... 13:58:36 <peter1138> i'm getting old so i use a larger-than-normal font size ;p 13:58:45 <Pikka> I'll get rid of it in the next version of NARS2, whenever that may be 13:58:56 <andythenorth> NARS3? 13:59:31 <Terkhen> planetmaker: are you planning to try it? 13:59:39 <andythenorth> peter1138: still trying HEQS? Or some other grf with insane amounts of industry types? 13:59:54 <andythenorth> oops FIRS :m 14:00:12 <peter1138> FIRS, yes 14:00:14 * andythenorth should just merge all grfs into one :P 14:00:15 <planetmaker> Terkhen, I just got the idea to upload it to one of the servers as a map. And see what people make of it ;-) 14:00:42 <andythenorth> peter1138: is it version from bananas? or nightly? 14:00:48 <andythenorth> nightly has some stinking problems 14:01:13 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 14:01:18 <Terkhen> I did not add much newgrfs to it... it needs the new scenario features to customize it 14:01:34 <Terkhen> which server? I would like to see and maybe play a bit :) 14:03:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.51] has joined #openttd 14:04:12 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@524B73C2.cm-4-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 14:05:28 <Pikka> any road 14:05:31 <Pikka> I think it's well past bedtime 14:05:35 <Pikka> goodnight gentlemen 14:05:36 *** Pikka [~Figgy@d58-111-83-60.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:05:44 <planetmaker> Terkhen, I know. osie is nice ;-) 14:06:16 <Terkhen> does it also mentions the mess I did while trying opengfx+ landscape? :P 14:06:20 <planetmaker> I haven't yet decided on a server. I'd talk to V453000 about it ;-) 14:06:26 <planetmaker> Terkhen, nope ;-) 14:06:30 <planetmaker> just the current state 14:06:40 <V453000> ? :) 14:06:53 <Terkhen> the gamelog is quite long, I tried a lot of combinations and saved after deciding on one 14:07:07 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=40542 <-- V453000 14:07:11 <Terkhen> I have a newgrf-less version too 14:07:22 <planetmaker> those two are fine with me ;-) 14:07:36 <Terkhen> ok :) 14:08:30 <V453000> massive flat map :| 14:10:23 <Terkhen> the big mountains are at the east, the western part is quite flat 14:11:01 <V453000> it is all flat, the mountains are so smooth that the hillness doesnt really apply _ 14:11:04 <V453000> :( 14:11:27 <planetmaker> would make for an SML game ;-) 14:11:30 <planetmaker> or SRNW 14:11:38 <planetmaker> or... chaos! 14:11:49 <V453000> it might be realistic, but I would not play it myself 14:12:17 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 14:12:17 <V453000> pm: either of those still is nicer with hills, particularly chaos ;) 14:12:56 <planetmaker> chaos might be 14:14:03 <planetmaker> V453000, we've had very nice games on pretty flat maps, too 14:14:04 <V453000> what I seek in scenarios (and none has it as far as I know), is something special, something the terragen does not give you. For example, I once did a scenario with a town on a super steep hill. The player had to supply the town with supplies that were on the coast, and weight multiplier was high 14:14:22 <andythenorth> 'design' 14:14:23 <andythenorth> :D 14:14:24 <planetmaker> V453000, wasteland ;-) 14:14:28 <V453000> but when I have a map and say "okay, terragen could have made something more interesting" ... then ... bah 14:14:36 <planetmaker> but that might be cargodist only. Not sure 14:14:42 <Terkhen> reality is boring :P 14:15:02 <andythenorth> I've made scenarios like 'big river' 14:15:10 <andythenorth> should be obvious what that one is :P 14:15:38 <V453000> for example the first OSQC osai made was totally awesome, because it was something you cannot get from a heightmap or a generator 14:15:49 <planetmaker> yep 14:15:51 <V453000> lots of some quests, lots of problems, and so on 14:16:04 <V453000> which is what all other scenarios miss, and which is why I do not play them 14:16:08 <andythenorth> shame there's no way to script things like town growth, industry opening etc 14:16:38 <andythenorth> probably never going to happen, would screw with too much other stuff 14:16:59 <Terkhen> V453000: you might like geogen 14:17:15 <andythenorth> an AI with money cheat would be a bit like a scenario scripting engine... 14:17:24 <V453000> I like terra genesis as it is ... without the variety distribution :) 14:17:49 <andythenorth> someone was going to fix terra genesis? 14:18:00 <Terkhen> geogen has some scripts that generate different types of heightmaps 14:18:13 <Terkhen> islands, archipielagos, "crater" maps and so on 14:18:17 <planetmaker> andythenorth, a scripting of towns or so... is envisionable and IMHO not out-of-question. But it's not a small thing and free for the taking to come up with a scenario script engine 14:19:09 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:21 <yorick> Terkhen: I remember seeing something like geogen when I went to delft recently 14:22:21 <andythenorth> NARS needs narrow gauge :o 14:22:29 <planetmaker> V453000, while I completely agree with "the more mountainous and fjord-like a map, the merrier", it should not necessarily mean that we always use such maps. I've had pretty nice PS games on rather flat tropical maps, too 14:22:53 <planetmaker> Would make for a good noob game :-P 14:22:55 <V453000> true 14:23:15 <V453000> the size is more of a problem then ... 512x1024 just is too much imo 14:23:23 <planetmaker> it's border-line, yes. 14:23:49 <V453000> even 512x512 is very big nowadays 14:24:01 <planetmaker> well. It'd be something different then ;-) 14:24:25 <V453000> it is not about different, but about a dead game where people just have too much to build 14:24:26 <planetmaker> And yes, I know and agree. And it's for good reasons. 14:25:14 <planetmaker> But a 0.5M tiles map won't be a 'dead' game'. Building ML is quick 14:25:15 * andythenorth has just started a flat tropic map 14:25:17 <andythenorth> with a lot of water 14:25:19 <planetmaker> and you don't need more stations 14:25:28 <Terkhen> I usually play flat because I'm lazy :P 14:25:35 <andythenorth> Terkhen: you miss so much fun :P 14:25:39 <planetmaker> you just can aford less trains, though due to CPU limits 14:25:52 <andythenorth> I have allowed FIRS farms to be totally evil on steep slopes 14:25:52 <V453000> I will think about it ;) 14:26:21 <Terkhen> andythenorth: nice :) 14:26:41 <planetmaker> sweet, andythenorth ! :-) 14:26:54 <planetmaker> Finally I can create a real Norwegian fjord scenario 14:27:07 <andythenorth> they've been like this for a while :) 14:27:15 <andythenorth> most of them can build on steep slopes 14:27:15 <Terkhen> that would be interesting to play :) 14:27:20 <planetmaker> Where farms could only be reached by means of a rope ladder 14:27:27 <andythenorth> it makes building stations tricky 14:27:39 <andythenorth> and because FIRS farms typically need 3 stations... 14:27:40 <andythenorth> it's hard :P 14:27:53 <planetmaker> :-) just build heliports :-P 14:28:09 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:28:39 <Terkhen> distant stations? 14:29:11 <planetmaker> well, with that, there's no need for heliports then. 14:29:50 <Terkhen> but distant stations are boring 14:30:00 <planetmaker> most often: yes 14:33:46 <yorick> why is there a src/ai/ai.hpp.sq 14:34:35 <andythenorth> can you build heliports on steep slopes? 14:34:48 <planetmaker> nope 14:34:59 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:35:00 <planetmaker> there's virtually nothing which can be built there 14:35:19 <andythenorth> non-drive through rv stops? 14:35:28 <andythenorth> see - it's evil :D 14:35:29 *** Osai [~Osai@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:35:41 <planetmaker> andythenorth, evil is different ;-) 14:35:59 <planetmaker> evil would be to make sure that the surrounding tiles within r=3 are also steep slopes :-P 14:36:14 <andythenorth> ho 14:36:16 <andythenorth> yes 14:36:17 <andythenorth> indeed 14:37:15 <yorick> what is a paused openttd using 3% cpu for? 14:37:22 <Terkhen> GUI 14:37:37 <yorick> server 14:37:42 <Terkhen> no clue :) 14:37:59 <yorick> someone would have to profile it 14:38:04 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:38:14 <planetmaker> That sounds like volunteering it 14:38:17 <Terkhen> :P 14:38:29 <yorick> that sounds like volunteering someone else :P 14:38:29 *** ^Spike^ [~Spike@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:38:43 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-191-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:31 <Terkhen> someone else has the bad habit of ignoring tasks forwarded to him... if he did his job I would not need to code 14:41:09 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:41:29 *** V453000 [~V453000@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:41:47 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:42:11 <peter1138> it still loops to see if it should be unpaused 14:42:20 <peter1138> it still handles network connections and the like 14:42:35 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:42:59 *** Yexo [~Yexo@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:43:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Yexo] by ChanServ 14:44:14 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:44:21 <yorick> it can use select() and friends to check the network connections 14:44:31 <yorick> and it shouldn't be unpaused without players 14:44:59 *** DJNekkid [~djnekkid@101.haydn.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:47:12 <Terkhen> you can configure the number of users required for unpausing the game IIRC 14:48:02 <yorick> but it's always more than 1 14:48:23 <yorick> or 0, in which case it should always be paused 14:48:41 <yorick> unpause* unless manual pause 14:48:43 <peter1138> yes, you could, but that's not how the dedicated server works 14:49:29 <peter1138> (because it's based on a game engine loop which generally don't idle) 14:49:53 <yorick> ok then, thanks peter1138 and also maybe Terkhen 14:50:05 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-137-190-30.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:50:28 <planetmaker> of course you can set the min_active_clients also to exactly one 14:50:52 <LordAro> afternoon all 14:50:52 <peter1138> it's part of the heritage of the dedicated server being "video driver" hack... 14:57:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 15:02:14 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has joined #openttd 15:05:10 <Belugas> #John, I'm only dancing 15:05:17 <Belugas> #You turned me on! 15:05:25 <Belugas> #She turns me on 15:05:34 <Belugas> #Don't get me wrong 15:05:39 <Belugas> #I'm only dancing!! 15:09:04 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5D97.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:29 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:13:15 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:18 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 16:06:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f480e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 16:06:32 *** ar3k [~ident@eca227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 16:06:34 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 16:10:29 *** Westie [~westie@94.242.206.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:10 *** perk11 [~perk11@81.17.157.195] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 16:15:15 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:17:14 <dihedral> yorick, but you can implement that feature with a bot :-P 16:25:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e061cc4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 16:27:04 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/big.png 16:27:15 <peter1138> i... dislike that window 16:29:15 <andythenorth> what has it done to offend? 16:30:03 <peter1138> the huge amount of brown 16:30:31 <andythenorth> you have a lot brown relative to map 16:30:41 <andythenorth> the map:brown ratio is all wrong :P 16:30:57 <peter1138> exactly! 16:32:25 <V453000> andythenorth: do you know that when you make for example the concrete tile with CHIPS, it still shows the electrification, if the rails are electrified? 16:32:37 <andythenorth> oh 16:32:40 <andythenorth> file a bug :D 16:32:45 <andythenorth> it's just some bits I guess 16:33:10 <V453000> now you know :p 16:39:20 *** Priski [priski@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:39:21 *** Priski [priski@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 16:45:11 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 16:46:14 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:48 <Belugas> He knows, you know 16:49:54 <Belugas> AND HE HAS PROBLEMS 16:50:16 <planetmaker> that's what she said :-P 16:53:36 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:54:22 <V453000> :) 17:00:27 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:43 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-130.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 17:05:35 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:15:46 <Belugas> #What a drag it is to get old 17:17:52 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.164.65] has joined #openttd 17:18:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.181.171] has joined #openttd 17:25:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@88.130.188.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:53 *** andythenorth [~Andy@78-86-194-127.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 17:32:08 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 17:34:05 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:15 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:36:13 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 17:40:16 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-58-51.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r22347 /trunk/src/lang/ (9 files): (log message trimmed) 17:46:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 1 changes by arnau 17:46:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 1 changes by VoyagerOne 17:46:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: dutch - 1 changes by habell 17:46:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: estonian - 1 changes by notAbot 17:46:02 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: finnish - 1 changes by jpx_ 17:51:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52:30 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 17:56:43 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:17 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 18:00:20 <ZirconiumX> hello all 18:03:38 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d5152B25B.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 18:03:39 <Terkhen> hi ZirconiumX 18:03:59 <ZirconiumX> hello Terkhen 18:04:14 * ZirconiumX must get on with D* 18:05:06 <ZirconiumX> I'm still in the bizarre situation that everything works except the function returning the path... :S 18:05:29 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:37 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:44 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 18:06:18 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:08:03 <ZirconiumX> else if (getG(s_start) == infinity) { /* path = null; */ return false; 18:08:13 <ZirconiumX> the commented area is 'broken' 18:08:33 <ZirconiumX> I have declared infinity 18:12:11 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:59 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:14:01 <ZirconiumX> I wonder 18:14:27 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:14:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 18:16:01 <ZirconiumX> hello Alberth 18:16:30 <ZirconiumX> If I set path = false; return path; 18:16:34 <ZirconiumX> will that work? 18:17:39 <Alberth> would be equivalent to return false; wouldn't it? 18:17:52 <ZirconiumX> exactly 18:17:53 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:23 <ZirconiumX> as a function collects that result - it returns false 18:18:41 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:19:02 <ZirconiumX> lol 18:19:04 <ZirconiumX> throw("It usually helps if you give a path that *is* valid"); 18:20:15 <Alberth> false does not look like a valid path to me :p 18:20:50 <ZirconiumX> hence meaning - there is no path 18:21:10 <ZirconiumX> whch AFAIK is what A* does, does it not? 18:23:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@46.208.69.103] has joined #openttd 18:24:21 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 18:24:21 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:24:34 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:46 <andythenorth> eviling 18:24:53 <Alberth> depends on the implementation. The algorithm just describes what to do, not how you code results 18:25:00 <Alberth> evening andy 18:25:23 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:25:23 <ZirconiumX> (openttd implementation) 18:26:31 <Alberth> you'll have to read the pf code, I don't know that without reading the code too 18:27:37 *** ZirconiumX [561b9caa@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 18:31:16 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32:05 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:37:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 18:38:46 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [] 18:42:13 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DEEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:04 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 19:10:58 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11:07 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DEEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:13:21 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has joined #openttd 19:16:11 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DEEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:16:21 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 19:16:25 *** Wolfsherz [~Wolfsherz@p57A6DEEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 19:17:00 <andythenorth> if I delete this giant textile mill layout... 19:17:01 <andythenorth> http://tt-foundry.com/misc/giant_textile_mill.png 19:17:05 <andythenorth> ...would anyone miss it? 19:17:12 <andythenorth> it's big and silly 19:17:37 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.8.64.30] has quit [] 19:21:09 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:21:45 <Alberth> I will not miss it 19:22:17 <andythenorth> how do I make money on short routes? :P 19:22:22 <andythenorth> my trams lose money 19:22:26 <andythenorth> my train loses money 19:22:34 <andythenorth> I don't have any other rvs yet 19:22:53 <andythenorth> ho 19:22:59 <andythenorth> maybe I adjust tram running costs :) 19:23:01 <supermop> beeching axe 19:23:12 <andythenorth> 1880? 19:23:16 <andythenorth> railway boom :P 19:23:22 <supermop> heh 19:23:37 <supermop> have people start with lower expectations? 19:23:38 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B107588.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:24:24 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 19:24:25 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24:53 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.235.228] has joined #openttd 19:26:45 <andythenorth> can I ask a question? 19:27:13 <Prof_Frink> No. Not even that one. 19:27:16 <andythenorth> ok thanks 19:27:42 <Alberth> supermop: they just start earlier 19:29:28 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08fc9f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:39 <supermop> other than low running cost, im not sure there is a solution 19:30:03 <andythenorth> but people whine about low running cost :( 19:31:25 <supermop> indeed 19:31:27 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:55 <supermop> but without a way to have premium fares of some sort there isnt really a way around that 19:34:52 <Alberth> andythenorth: but those people can run a basecost mod grf, right? 19:34:59 <andythenorth> ho 19:35:13 <andythenorth> in HEQS I just adjust the cost parameter :D 19:35:20 <andythenorth> seems like cheating though ;) 19:36:05 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 19:36:42 *** aber [~Adium@HSI-KBW-109-192-167-144.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #openttd 19:37:08 <Alberth> my point is mostly that you want a modular system, so people can decide for their own how to play 19:37:20 <Alberth> a cost parameter could also work :) 19:43:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@188-220-91-30.zone11.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:49:47 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.235.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:35 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.235.228] has joined #openttd 19:56:29 *** KenjiE20 [~KenjiE20@92.9.235.228] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01:49 <Hendikins> Gnar. Irritating when you put the infrastructure in to support an industry and it goes belly up before you get a load to it. 20:02:31 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 20:02:42 <andythenorth> I can solve that for you :D 20:03:05 <Hendikins> I used my cashflow to solve it - I just built another one. 20:03:33 * andythenorth :P 20:04:11 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-26-30-174.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:05:26 <Hendikins> The new one definitely won't go tits up. 20:05:47 <andythenorth> does manual industries grf solve closure problem? 20:05:56 <supermop> hmmm maybe i should actually play some ottd 20:06:06 <supermop> havent it awhile 20:06:33 <andythenorth> it's kind of fun 20:06:36 <andythenorth> I heard :P 20:07:09 * andythenorth is playing the game today 20:07:13 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 20:07:13 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07:48 <supermop> i havent beeen able to generate a decent map lately 20:08:02 * Hendikins is quite enjoying the game on a 2560x1440 display at the moment. 20:08:10 <supermop> and making a satisfying one by hand is much too hard 20:08:57 <Hendikins> And after 30 game years I finally added my first passenger service. Heh. 20:09:46 * Hendikins had 5 oilfields in fairly close proximity and a dock that would accept passengers (which was for sea -> rail transfer of oil), so whacked a hovercraft on. 20:09:55 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 20:09:59 *** APTX_ [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:14:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.181.171] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:46 <andythenorth> should I add a pottery to FIRS? 20:20:48 <andythenorth> accepts clay 20:20:51 <andythenorth> produces goods 20:21:15 <supermop> maaybe as an earlier industry 20:21:39 <supermop> are you thinking of something like a cottage industry, or like wedgewood? 20:22:22 <andythenorth> not sure 20:22:25 <andythenorth> just thinking 20:23:59 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@82.152.164.65] has joined #openttd 20:24:42 <Belugas> new industry : accepts wood, cotton, feathers and stone 20:24:48 <Belugas> produces bows 20:24:53 <Belugas> and arrrows 20:25:00 *** Lakie [~Lakie@82.152.164.65] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25:49 <Belugas> graphycally : sand pit like, with smoke rising, bones laying scatered all around the place 20:25:49 <andythenorth> error: exceed number of input cargos permitted 20:26:02 <Belugas> let's change that :) 20:26:05 <andythenorth> also...both outputs go to same place 20:26:12 <andythenorth> so might as well be one cargo :P 20:26:33 * Prof_Frink returns to his TempSet game 20:26:55 <frosch123> pottery is one of the first technologies in civ 1 20:27:08 <frosch123> but nothing depends on it 20:27:27 <andythenorth> not sure what it would add to FIRS 20:27:30 <andythenorth> but it's an idea 20:27:53 <andythenorth> frosch123: anything can be done to help extended tile layouts? 20:28:50 <frosch123> no idea, i won't be around next weekend either :s 20:29:32 <andythenorth> ho hum 20:29:40 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:44 * andythenorth plans much drawing in that case :P 20:30:20 <andythenorth> it's done when it's done :) 20:30:28 <frosch123> wait one more month :) 20:31:22 <andythenorth> ok 20:33:05 * andythenorth will have to redraw glass works soon 20:33:08 <andythenorth> sooooo ugly 20:39:36 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:05 <frosch123> night 20:57:09 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-590f480e.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:39 *** jmsfnch [~james.fin@194.72.149.3] has joined #openttd 21:00:47 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p5495961D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:02:12 <Absurd-Mind> hi 21:03:00 <Absurd-Mind> is there something like a mission patch for openttd? (something like "deliver 3000 units of coal per month") 21:06:59 <SmatZ> maybe luukland's server offers something like that 21:07:09 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Farewell] 21:08:20 <andythenorth> 'fund' button isn't updated when newgrf is reloaded and result of cb22 changed 21:08:27 <andythenorth> guess it's not marked as dirty 21:08:33 <andythenorth> not a big thing :P 21:10:59 *** Lakiev2 [~Lakie@82.153.137.47] has joined #openttd 21:15:12 *** ar3kaw [~ident@eca227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:16:25 *** ar3k [~ident@eca227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 21:16:26 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 21:17:32 *** Lakie` [~Lakie@82.152.164.65] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:19:13 *** Twerkhoven[L] [~twerkhove@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 21:19:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@46.208.69.103] has left #openttd [] 21:20:02 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 21:23:15 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 21:24:27 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-191-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:25:02 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:26:29 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:27:29 <Eddi|zuHause> www.eisenbahnstiftung.de/bg/pics/4030.jpg <-- street-running trains literally must go at "walking speed" (guy in front is the "train leader", who secures the line) 21:28:25 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [] 21:28:56 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:30:27 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [] 21:30:49 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:33:19 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [] 21:33:42 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:29 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [] 21:38:20 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:10 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:26 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:40:30 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [] 21:43:05 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:48:57 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 21:49:13 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 21:49:18 <Terkhen> good night 21:51:29 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-89-176-220-130.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:59:15 *** Lakiev2 [~Lakie@82.153.137.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:07 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 22:01:22 *** dihedral [~dih@znc.noaddedsugar.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A48C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:07:38 * SmatZ adds sugar to dihedral 22:08:23 <dihedral> thanks ^^ 22:08:29 <dihedral> that is ... sweet of you :-D 22:12:17 <SmatZ> :D 22:14:36 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-4d08fc9f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 22:27:22 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [] 22:34:41 *** aber [~Adium@HSI-KBW-109-192-167-144.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:59:10 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:15 *** Fuco [~dota.keys@fuco.sks3.muni.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:15 *** APTX [~APTX@89-77-188-241.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 23:03:36 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5D97.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 23:06:23 *** LordAro|2 [~kvirc@host86-137-190-36.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:11:38 *** ar3k [~ident@ecz94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 23:12:05 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-137-190-30.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:35 *** DDR [~DDR@d142-179-79-208.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 23:17:47 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 23:18:57 *** ar3kaw [~ident@eca227.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:16 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 23:34:06 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:35:00 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39:05 *** LordAro|2 [~kvirc@host86-137-190-36.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:25 <Wolf01> 'night 23:40:29 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host41-233-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:41:32 *** jmsfnch [~james.fin@194.72.149.3] has left #openttd [] 23:48:36 *** Chillosophy [~Chillosop@ip91350749.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 23:53:09 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 23:56:01 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]