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00:01:05 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4] 00:11:39 *** Bjarte [bjarte@playing.OpenTTD.no] has joined #openttd 00:33:13 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:49 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p54959AFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76945.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:36:32 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76945.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40:16 <Wolf01> 'night 01:40:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host230-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 01:55:17 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has quit [Quit: Gone fishing] 01:57:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 01:57:12 * Eddi|zuHause just had to "reboot" his tram system in one city... 01:57:52 <Eddi|zuHause> send all to depot, send one of each line to renew the timetable, then spread them out evenly by start date 02:14:41 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-22-223.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 02:24:03 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:57 *** rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-200-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:29:15 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:2532:2fbd:9814:668a] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:31:39 *** rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-155-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:01 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:55:24 *** roboboy [996b219a@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 02:55:40 *** roboboy [996b219a@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #openttd [] 04:03:15 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:03:43 <Chrill> Anyone here skilled (at least slightly skilled) in Linguistics? :P 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76945.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:56:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76EA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:14:55 *** supermop [~daniel_er@cpe-67-243-25-39.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 05:20:56 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 05:23:20 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 05:29:57 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:55:34 <planetmaker> moin 06:14:45 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:47 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth 06:15:52 <planetmaker> and moin all :-) 06:16:09 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@cpc18-aztw25-2-0-cust185.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 06:16:43 <planetmaker> andythenorth: there's an updated psd2png patch: http://devs.openttd.org/~planetmaker/patches/firs_gimp.diff 06:16:49 <planetmaker> the old one had.... issues 06:21:44 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has joined #openttd 06:22:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:24:57 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 06:25:28 *** andythenorth_ [~Andy@cpc18-aztw25-2-0-cust185.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth_] 06:27:04 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0497ba.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:34:23 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4FBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:36:03 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has joined #openttd 06:40:18 <Terkhen> good morning 06:40:36 <planetmaker> moin Terkhen 06:48:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:51:43 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: zodttd] 06:52:53 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC4FBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 06:55:38 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5294.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:57:38 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:00:00 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 07:22:58 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has joined #openttd 07:39:47 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:03:57 *** roboboy [~robotboy@CPE-58-173-41-16.nxzp1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:19:54 *** Chrill [Chrill@ip68-8-120-178.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 08:26:21 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 08:32:59 <dihedral> good morning 08:33:28 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:42:19 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:48:44 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:54:23 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:04:07 <peter1138> so has anyone come up with 'real' tunnels/bridges yet? :p 09:04:14 * peter1138 could do with a subway system 09:04:19 <peter1138> or at least signals in tunnels 09:07:09 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 09:08:10 <ChoHag> Let me learn the code first! 09:08:12 <ChoHag> Sheesh! 09:08:44 <peter1138> i don't think that's enough ;) 09:08:53 <ChoHag> No but it's a start. 09:11:18 <ChoHag> Right now I'm still at the stage of getting annoyed with C++. 09:12:18 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 09:12:22 <ChoHag> Why couldn't it have been written in something like perl or bash? 09:12:28 <ChoHag> Something I know like the back of my hand. 09:14:51 <planetmaker> bash's GUI is ill-suited for pixel lovers 09:15:04 <planetmaker> ;-) 09:15:40 <ChoHag> Nethack runs great though. 09:17:06 <peter1138> it would probably be a bit slow too 09:17:19 <ChoHag> Mere implementation details. 09:19:00 <ChoHag> If there are multiple stations, does cargo take station proximity into account when choosing where to start (and in yacd, end) a journey? 09:19:22 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:20:00 <ChoHag> ie. Will passengers choose the closest bus stop, or will they happily walk across town in order to get a bus back to their neighbour? 09:20:15 <peter1138> it just has to be in the catchment area 09:20:29 <peter1138> cargo will be distributed based on station rating 09:20:35 <ChoHag> And only rating? 09:34:03 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:55 *** zachanima [~zach@2506ds3-od.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 09:45:26 *** Adambean [AdamR@82.hosts.reece-eu.net] has joined #openttd 10:09:12 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:09:21 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has joined #openttd 10:15:34 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p5495936C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:51 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:22:51 *** afk [~Dream@92.18.112.53] has joined #openttd 10:24:39 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:26:54 <avdg> could someone block hy220 on the wiki please? 10:28:14 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:34 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:28:37 *** ar3k is now known as ar3kaw 10:29:18 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dream@92.18.109.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:30:03 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:31:28 <peter1138> done 10:32:42 <avdg> oh, looks like someone already done that 10:33:28 <avdg> ty 10:36:52 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:43:59 *** stefan [~stefan@p5098b65a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:48:18 <peter1138> so my mass-transit system has no signals :p 10:48:52 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:20 *** stefan [~stefan@p5098b65a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 10:52:28 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:52:33 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:36 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:56:47 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:08 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 11:02:36 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:04:38 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has joined #openttd 11:05:17 *** Chris_Booth [~Chris_Boo@cpc7-newt30-2-0-cust37.newt.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 11:07:09 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:30 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 11:22:23 *** DoubleYou [~jkuckartz@ppp118-209-22-223.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [] 11:28:29 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:46 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 11:46:16 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host230-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:48:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:23 <Wolf01> hello 11:48:42 <planetmaker> hi Wolf01 11:56:52 *** glx [glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:3815:b523:9366:8c1c] has joined #openttd 11:56:55 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:12:42 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has joined #openttd 12:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, does http://bellard.org/jslinux/ work for anybody? 12:17:52 <SpComb> wrong browser 12:17:53 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't seem to run in konqueror 12:17:58 <Markk> Yes 12:18:02 <Markk> Works fine for me. 12:18:03 <SpComb> I wonder what HTML5 it uses 12:18:07 <Markk> I tried that earlier today. 12:18:09 <Noldo_> yeah, booted in chrome 12:18:13 <Ammler> Eddi|zuHause: works 12:18:24 <Markk> Fx4 here 12:19:44 <Ammler> on Konqueror, I got following error: ERROR: your browser is too old to run JS/Linux. 12:19:45 <Ammler> You should use a recent browser such as Firefox 4.x or Google Chrome. 12:20:05 *** enr1x [~kiike@62.57.225.29.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #openttd 12:20:11 <Noldo_> that thing gives me the creeps 12:20:33 <Markk> Ammler: It says what you need to do. 12:20:39 <Markk> :D 12:21:18 <Ammler> it has no network access :-) 12:21:31 <Noldo_> :D the terminal is a table 12:21:41 <Markk> I would like to have bash. 12:22:23 <Eddi|zuHause> takes ages to load in firefox 12:23:48 <Eddi|zuHause> but seems to work 12:24:56 <planetmaker> get a better connection. it also works flawlessly and quick with ff3 12:25:18 <Ammler> needs to download the kernel :-) 12:25:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, give me better connection, please :p 12:25:43 <Noldo_> you can propably download the parts to local computer if the loading is a problem 12:25:54 <SpComb> next step: an implementation of X in javascript 12:26:11 <Noldo_> canvas might be needed for that 12:27:02 <SpComb> or just VGA framebuffer 12:27:47 <Eddi|zuHause> DX11 ;( 12:27:48 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 12:36:28 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p5495936C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:15 *** Chruker [~no@5634a56d.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #openttd 12:51:57 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-188-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:55:31 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:01:23 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:29 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #openttd 13:10:20 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:11:29 *** Lakie [~Lakie@91.84.116.139] has joined #openttd 13:13:15 *** zodttd [~me@user-0c90n0l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 13:22:44 <Belugas> hello 13:28:11 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:29:37 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34:26 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B102C32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:33 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:36:11 *** compi [compi@131.173.96.69] has joined #openttd 13:36:15 *** compi [compi@131.173.96.69] has quit [] 13:39:17 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B106CFA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:43:53 <dihedral> hello Belugas 13:43:54 <dihedral> :-) 13:45:33 <Belugas> wow... a live dihedral :) been a while i've seen you around sir 13:45:40 <Belugas> hi then :) 13:49:08 *** DayDreamer [~PouzarA@80.95.101.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:49:36 <dihedral> :-) 13:49:44 <dihedral> yeah - i have a lot to do :-( 13:49:53 <dihedral> talking of a lot to do 13:50:07 <dihedral> any body in this channel in the need of a sys admin job? :-D 13:50:31 <dihedral> 70/30 to 60/40 linux / windows 13:50:41 <Belugas> not me. want to do customer support on windows, instead? 13:50:48 <dihedral> ho no 13:50:53 <dihedral> i have to sadly 13:50:56 <dihedral> oh - and mac :-( 13:51:05 <dihedral> but we will drop that branch in the near future 13:51:08 <peter1138> sysadmin eh? 13:51:14 <dihedral> aye 13:51:18 <peter1138> how much? :p 13:51:44 <dihedral> 30k eur p.a. 13:52:55 <dihedral> esx, linux: web, database, file, mail servers, etc. windows: some little support, exchange, dc, backup (veeam + backupexec) 13:53:16 <dihedral> roughly :-P 13:53:47 <ChoHag> 30K EUR? 13:53:49 <ChoHag> Good luck with that. 13:55:21 <dihedral> what would you suggest? ;-) 13:56:15 <ChoHag> Upwards of 50. 13:56:48 <dihedral> that's probably never going to happen in this company - at least i would not expect that to happen 13:57:36 <ChoHag> That is frequently the case. 13:57:48 <peter1138> hmm 13:57:53 <ChoHag> And the companies generally end up with admins worth what they are paid. 13:57:54 <dihedral> for that working here is very relaxed :-) 13:58:03 <peter1138> pfft, overpaid IT workers 13:58:03 <dihedral> ChoHag, thanks!! 13:58:09 <dihedral> but i'll take that as a compliment ;-) 13:58:12 <ChoHag> No worries :) 13:58:26 <ChoHag> peter1138: The good ones are worth it. 13:58:54 <dihedral> ChoHag, of course the good ones are worth it - but finding the good ones is nasty :-P - esp. if you find a shit load of crappy ones first 13:58:56 <ChoHag> Or you can be like me and just get paid as if you are. 13:59:49 <dihedral> but quite honestly - i prefer someone who can be happy with relaxed work environment and 30K than someone somewhere around 50-70K and stressed like hell 14:00:02 <peter1138> i reckon pay rates should be legally mandated on a "how useful is this to society scale" 14:00:16 <peter1138> teachers, nurses, etc, should then get way more 14:00:21 <dihedral> aye 14:00:29 <dihedral> that sounds like some decent tought 14:00:32 <dihedral> *thought 14:00:52 <peter1138> and some nerd setting up servers in between watching anime in a dark room would get a more appropriate wage 14:01:02 <dihedral> lol 14:01:04 <ChoHag> Yeah they tried that. 14:01:13 <ChoHag> My wife's seriously buggered up country is the result. 14:01:13 <dihedral> thankfully i do not work in the cellar :-) 14:01:30 <peter1138> oh, hello denis 14:02:02 <dihedral> pent-house offices, and we are only 5 :-D 14:05:03 *** Ruudjah [~opera@86.93.109.194] has joined #openttd 14:06:19 * dihedral is reminded of the word "Rutsche" ^^ 14:09:27 <peter1138> mind you, it's a bit of a silly opinion as i work in IT :p 14:11:12 <Eddi|zuHause> http://images.derstandard.at/2011/05/16/1304588797118.jpg <-- haha: "priests and other clerical persons may not enter this forest in company of children" :p 14:14:48 <peter1138> heh 14:20:44 *** afk [~Dream@92.18.112.53] has quit [Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.] 14:21:17 *** Dreamxtreme [~Dream@92.18.112.53] has joined #openttd 14:32:20 *** Br33z4hSlut5 [~static.kp@92.68.154.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:03 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has joined #openttd 14:36:02 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-14.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 14:36:26 *** amkoroew1 [~Heinz@p5B10460B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:41:28 *** amkoroew [~Heinz@p5B102C32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:36 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 15:27:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F6D987.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:29:28 *** douknoukem [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~Flex@88.130.166.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:01 <peter1138> bah 15:38:22 <peter1138> why don't xscreensaver hacks work with -root when a compositor is enabled? 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Both client and server are built from the 1.1.0 source and the server doesn't actually have a revision (norev000). 17:28:45 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-074-204-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:28 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:57 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has joined #openttd 17:31:23 <planetmaker> Thorn_, you need to build from an svn checkout to allow for proper version detection 17:31:52 <planetmaker> a tar has no means to know its version and whether it was modified, thus... norev0000 17:32:46 <Thorn_> hmm, and it must be identical revision to what the client is running? 17:32:54 <planetmaker> yes 17:33:55 <Thorn_> alright, thanks 17:34:28 <planetmaker> you're welcome 17:38:05 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:38:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 17:39:47 <Thorn_> out of curiosity, what revision is 1.1.0? svn log shows both r2228(6,5,4) happened that day 17:40:47 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41:16 *** KenjiE20 [~kenji@92.8.65.148] has joined #openttd 17:42:24 <Alberth> svn://svn.openttd.org/tags/1.1.0 17:42:53 <Thorn_> ahh, thanks :) 17:45:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: translators * r22471 /trunk/src/lang/brazilian_portuguese.txt: 17:45:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 2 changes by Tucalipe 17:50:47 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 18:18:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:38 <andythenorth> hello 18:19:49 <andythenorth> what's wrong with long vehicles just bending? 18:19:49 <Terkhen> hi andythenorth 18:19:53 <andythenorth> or did I miss something? 18:23:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@213.99.112.87.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:34:14 *** Intexon [~Intexon@blk-222-147-135.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 18:40:35 <peter1138> uhh? 18:41:10 <Terkhen> stuff made in a single piece is not supposed to bend I guess 18:47:31 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:53 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-076-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:02:43 <peter1138> does yacd handle automatic orders as expected? 19:03:36 <peter1138> hmm, seems to :) 19:03:57 <ChoHag> Automatic orders? 19:11:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@95-27-249-90.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:11:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:20:08 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has joined #openttd 19:20:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:21:53 <ChoHag> Are there any reliable multiplayer servers? 19:24:53 <Terkhen> I'm pretty sure some servers have been running up for years without any maintenance, so yes 19:25:20 <ChoHag> They ain't the ones I keep picking. 19:25:47 *** Absurd-Mind [~peter@p5495936C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:26:05 <Terkhen> what do you mean with "reliable"? what are you looking for? 19:26:31 <ChoHag> Primarily, has the bandwidth to support the game. 19:26:50 <Thorn_> o_O 19:26:59 <Thorn_> openttd isn't exactly, erm, bandwidth hoggy 19:27:29 <ChoHag> No, but many people don't seem to manage even so. 19:27:42 <ChoHag> Where many == the small handful I've tried. 19:28:02 <Thorn_> the only time i've seen it jitter or stop for a few seconds is when the autosave kicks in on a massive map 19:28:13 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 19:28:17 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 19:28:24 <Terkhen> in my experience, lag in multiplayer is usually caused by maps that are too big or have too many vehicles running in processors that are not powerful enough 19:29:45 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:41 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 19:36:02 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 20:00:54 *** Zuu [~Zuu@h-114-141.A98.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 20:11:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r22472 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: When a NewGRF assigned station properties 09 and/or 0A multiple times, the previously allocated sprite layouts were not freed. 20:12:17 *** jari [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:12:45 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:13:43 *** Mucht [~Martin@chello084115143107.3.graz.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 20:14:00 *** sllide [~jari@ip565eb113.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 20:22:53 *** a1270 [~a1270@72-24-233-98.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:50 <planetmaker> [21:02] peter1138 does yacd handle automatic orders as expected? <-- I think 'automatic orders' is an unfortunate wording. We should rather call it 'implicit orders' 20:25:06 <planetmaker> as nothing is (automatically) added what isn't there before 20:25:23 <planetmaker> good evening also :-) 20:27:36 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:29:18 * Rubidium agrees 20:40:40 *** sigue [contempt@stole.ur.cc-number.info] has joined #openttd 20:43:37 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5294.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:35 *** sla_ro|master [~slaco@95.76.27.160] has quit [] 20:52:18 <ChoHag> What is done implicitely? 20:55:37 <Alberth> if a train visits a station without being told explicitly to do so, the station is added to the orders as implicit order 20:57:35 *** gar [44ed3a52@ircip2.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 20:57:46 <ChoHag> Ah. 20:57:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:58:04 <George> Hi 20:58:15 <George> Does action 14 support UTF? 20:58:30 <planetmaker> sure 20:58:36 <George> http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSVTParTownVector 20:58:47 <George> Do I use it correct? 20:59:12 <planetmaker> you use it the same way as with action4. Looks good 21:00:03 <George> It does not work :( 21:00:20 <George> I see ? instead of à 21:00:56 <Rubidium> it might even be that the thorn is not ignored 21:01:08 <Rubidium> that it just assumes it to be UTF8 21:01:42 <planetmaker> George: is your file actually encoded as utf-8? 21:02:24 <George> You see the part of NFO there 21:02:32 <George> it works for actions 4 21:03:00 <George> Rubidium: Should I remove the thorn? 21:03:01 <Rubidium> by the way, if a language doesn't translate a string you can leave it out. It should automagically take the default string 21:03:16 * Thorn_ feels removed 21:03:29 <frosch123> the way i read the code the thorn is also required for action 14 21:04:28 <George> Do I need to provide a screen from r22471 21:05:28 <gar> hey all 21:05:38 <Alberth> hi 21:05:48 <gar> how u instal the zip achive? 21:06:11 <Alberth> unpack? 21:06:26 <gar> after that 21:06:32 <Rubidium> frosch123: if that's the case, then there should be absolutely no reason why action4 style strings don't work for action14 21:06:43 <Alberth> what zip archive? sources or something else? 21:06:58 <gar> idono its from the site... 21:07:08 <Rubidium> gar: start reading readme.txt 21:07:24 <Alberth> idono either, there are lots of files from the site 21:07:31 <gar> there is none.... 21:07:41 <Rubidium> *especially* the sections about installing and running OpenTTD 21:07:49 <Rubidium> gar: if there is none, which zip did you download? 21:08:09 <frosch123> George: Rubidium: ogfx+trains puts thorns into the action 14, and i did not see thorns for it 21:08:16 *** Neon [~Neon@dslb-178-004-188-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Python is way too complicated... I prefer doing it quickly in C.] 21:08:22 <Alberth> or even, from which site? 21:08:43 <Rubidium> Alberth: I kinda expect an URI 21:08:54 <George> FS#4618 21:09:05 * Alberth expected a filename :) 21:10:15 <George> frosch123: Should I add anything else? 21:12:10 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> what's wrong with long vehicles just bending? <-- it looks ugly 21:12:11 <Rubidium> frosch123: does it really do that? As I can't quite find the place were it would be removed; it only happens in TranslateTTDPatchCodes, which AFAIK isn't called for action4 21:12:19 <Rubidium> s/action4/action14/ 21:12:49 <frosch123> a14 calls AddGRFTextToList, which calls TranslateTTDPatchCodes 21:13:54 <Rubidium> oh... multiple AddGRFTextToLists with different behaviour 21:17:10 <George> Rubidium: NFO is correct? 21:18:14 <frosch123> George: the nfo code in the fs task works fine for me 21:18:17 <frosch123> no ? 21:18:57 *** Chruker [~no@5634a56d.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [] 21:19:03 <George> frosch123: do I need to attach the GRF? 21:19:04 <gar> hey guys 21:19:18 <gar> how u get new vehicls? 21:19:43 <planetmaker> they appear after some time. 21:19:46 <frosch123> George: http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/utf8.grf 21:19:49 <planetmaker> if you mean new models 21:19:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:20:03 *** KouDy [~KouDy@ip-78-102-180-14.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:20:04 <gar> yeah 21:20:25 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:21:13 <George> frosch123: Updated the FS#4618 21:23:23 *** Pulec [~pulec@static-cl093181068250.unet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:46 <frosch123> George: it must be your editor 21:24:00 <frosch123> in the grf is indeed a "?" instead of a thorn 21:24:38 <frosch123> the editor did not save as utf 8 21:24:40 <George> and the same editor works fine with action 4? 21:24:47 <frosch123> if you would reload the file you would also see the "?" in the nfo 21:25:07 <frosch123> George: no idea, just saying what is actually in the grf 21:25:17 *** LordAro [~kvirc@host86-137-191-8.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:25:24 <George> Very strange 21:25:32 <George> Have to look 21:31:55 <George> Strange. Closed OTTD, editor, reopened it, recompiled the GRF, everything is fine. FS#4618 can be closed 21:33:54 *** gar [44ed3a52@ircip2.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 21:34:12 *** Biolunar [~mahdi@blfd-5d821002.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: All your IRC are belong to us!] 21:34:24 <frosch123> night 21:34:27 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d008b68.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:51 *** goblin [~goblin@dslb-092-074-204-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:39:32 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 21:39:45 <George> night 21:40:00 <andythenorth> why doesn't FIRS have a power station? 21:40:50 <Eddi|zuHause> some idiot found them too boring 21:41:23 <Terkhen> andythenorth: please, keep the power station out 21:41:35 <Terkhen> the last time you started thinking about it the talks went on for months :P 21:42:15 <Terkhen> IIRC the conclusion was "it is just a steel mill that does not produce metal" 21:43:28 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the original idea was to have power stations influence nearby industries, but afair that was dropped because NewGRF didn't give enough access 21:43:38 <Terkhen> oh, true 21:44:05 <Terkhen> I'm not sure if that would be a great idea, supplies already fulfill that role 21:44:30 <andythenorth> I removed it because of the conclusion Terkhen mentioned 21:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause> cargos could get TE_ENERGY 21:47:22 <Terkhen> http://wiki.openttd.org/Frosch/Town_Control <--- this was linked a lot of times during these times, yes 21:47:52 <andythenorth> yes 21:48:08 <andythenorth> with YACD....I'm not sure I care about that stuff so much 21:48:28 <andythenorth> :) 21:49:43 <Terkhen> you could pick up the "power plants produce energy cargo" idea and distribute the energy among towns :P 21:49:51 <Terkhen> in trucks of course 21:56:24 *** ndh [~opera@dslb-088-073-076-057.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 21:57:07 <Ammler> toyland cargo 22:07:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1AC78.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:13 *** elmz_ [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:02 *** elmz [~elmz@184.213-167-126.customer.lyse.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:37 *** gamer [44ed3a52@ircip4.mibbit.com] has joined #openttd 22:11:41 <gamer> hello 22:11:48 <gamer> can somone help me install this =\ 22:15:39 <Yexo> perhaps 22:15:48 <Yexo> but not if you don't explain the troubles you have 22:16:20 <gamer> oky 22:16:25 <gamer> eerrmmm 22:16:42 <gamer> i don;t get how to install the 3rd party stuff 22:16:55 <Yexo> opengfx? 22:17:08 <Yexo> or are you trying to install AIs / newgrfs? 22:17:12 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5e0497ba.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 22:17:31 <gamer> it couldn;t find the graphix 22:17:46 <gamer> graphic set 22:17:52 <Yexo> are you using windows? 22:18:13 <gamer> yeah vista 22:18:20 <Yexo> did you use the installer? 22:18:37 <gamer> yeah 22:18:50 <Yexo> it should offer to automatically download and install the baseset 22:19:02 <gamer> 'nop.... 22:19:31 <Yexo> oh well, go to http://www.openttd.org/download-opengfx 22:19:40 <Yexo> download the "Binary file for all platforms (zip archive)" 22:20:02 <Yexo> create (if it doesn't exist yet) Documents\OpenTTD\data and extract the zip file there 22:22:26 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:22:51 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:23:32 *** DayDreamer [~DayDreame@94.142.234.1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:24:55 <gamer> nop 22:25:03 *** gamer [44ed3a52@ircip4.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 22:25:41 <Yexo> ... 22:25:45 <Yexo> really informative, that guy 22:26:39 <Terkhen> a proud member of the "clicking next until it is installed" generation 22:27:46 * planetmaker *plops* another beer on this show ;-) 22:28:00 <planetmaker> popcorn is out, though 22:28:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i just came from the cinema, i had popcorn 22:29:32 <planetmaker> :-) 22:29:49 <Eddi|zuHause> "Priest", but the movie didn't quite keep what was promised... 22:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and it's like 20 minutes too short 22:33:34 *** dfox [~dfox@ip-94-113-17-246.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 22:34:52 *** TWerkhoven [~turbulent@cpc14-linl7-2-0-cust28.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: He who can look into the future, has a brighter future to look into] 22:37:15 *** DDR [~DDR@d99-199-10-67.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:06 <planetmaker> he, that IS short 22:43:54 *** JVassie [~James@92.27.149.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:37 *** pugi [~pugi@p4FCC5294.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: I reject your reality and substitute my own] 22:45:52 *** DOUK [~KEM@ALyon-158-1-36-158.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:03 <Eddi|zuHause> was kinda open ended, in the sense of "we can produce several sequels of this if it goes well"... but i'm quite afraid that it won't do well 22:47:18 *** ar3k [~ident@ecj41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 22:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> would have better suited as a TV series 22:48:06 <Eddi|zuHause> spread the action scenes a little thinner, give the characters more depth and back-story, and you can get a whole season out of it 22:50:02 *** andythenorth [~Andy@02dcf3b4.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:52:05 *** supermop [~daniel_er@rrcs-72-43-171-87.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: supermop] 22:54:10 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@78-80-200-5.tmcz.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:54:42 *** ar3kaw [~ident@ecj247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:57 *** adamkex [~adam@89-253-104-158.customers.ownit.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:57:35 <Terkhen> good night 23:01:40 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-77-37-203-211.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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